Danny Jones Podcast - #107 - How F*cked Up is Social Media? - Should We Be Afraid? | Jamie Kennedy
Aired: 2021-08-19
Duration: 01:03:10


=== Jamie Kennedy's Hollywood Marathon (07:02) ===

[00:00:01]  Hello world.
[00:00:02]  Today's guest on the podcast is Jamie Kennedy.
[00:00:05]  Jamie is a hilarious comedian and actor who's had a marathon of a career in Hollywood.
[00:00:10]  He's been in films and TV shows such as Romeo and Juliet, Malibu's Most Wanted, Boiler Room, Scream, The Jamie Kennedy Experiment, and I'd be here all day if I had to keep going.
[00:00:19]  On this episode, we talk about Florida, the evolution of media and Hollywood, what it's like balancing a Hollywood career with comedy and social media, and much, much more.
[00:00:29]  This one is short, but it's packed with gems.
[00:00:31]  Please welcome Jamie Kennedy.
[00:00:42]  Do you know we should open it up cleaning out your recording You're safe who's the last mouth here.
[00:00:53]  I don't remember who the last mouth was bro coming down the cracked in.
[00:00:57]  Yeah, this is cracked in.
[00:00:59]  But we're not far from the beach This isn't this doesn't remind you of where you're from at all Malibuzi.
[00:01:05]  This is nothing like Malibuzi Malibuzi.
[00:01:07]  What could you relate?
[00:01:08]  What what is this town remind you of?
[00:01:10]  Because you've been to a lot of different towns around the country It's cool, but it's like you gotta like drive through the crack to get to the water.
[00:01:18]  You know what I mean?
[00:01:19]  So you like got this dope setup that people are looking at, but they don't know that outside of here looks like it could be a potential war zone.
[00:01:27]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:01:27]  Drug trafficking.
[00:01:28]  Yeah.
[00:01:29]  But it's dope, you know?
[00:01:31]  And I never met you and you're like, yo, come into this room.
[00:01:33]  And then I'm like, yo, this guy looks kind of fit.
[00:01:35]  Like, what do I got to do?
[00:01:37]  Like, I got my pen.
[00:01:38]  Like, man, get him in the neck.
[00:01:40]  The other homie here.
[00:01:42]  And there's some dude in the Tesla.
[00:01:43]  And I was like, how many can I take out?
[00:01:46]  Do a joke.
[00:01:47]  You know what I mean?
[00:01:48]  But it's nice.
[00:01:49]  And once I got in here, and I know you got a good following.
[00:01:51]  See, you'll go anywhere because the numbers.
[00:01:54]  You got good numbers.
[00:01:55]  So I was like, I got to come to the numbers.
[00:01:56]  The numbers are what brought you here?
[00:01:57]  Dude, I was, my assistant was setting this up, and then they were like, well, we can try to do this.
[00:02:02]  And you guys were a little hard to pin down.
[00:02:04]  You guys hit me up.
[00:02:06]  I hate it when people do this.
[00:02:06]  They hit me up, and then they want me to accommodate them.
[00:02:09]  And it's like, what the fuck?
[00:02:10]  I got to fire the guy that handles all that stuff, the booking guy.
[00:02:13]  Oh, he fucks everything.
[00:02:14]  Well, no, he was, I mean, no diss to him, but he was like, he can't do it.
[00:02:18]  And I was like, And then I know that you have a good following, so I was like, fuck it.
[00:02:21]  So I drove over the bridge, took a rowboat.
[00:02:24]  I apologize for him.
[00:02:25]  No, dude.
[00:02:25]  He's a pain in the ass.
[00:02:26]  Appreciate you.
[00:02:27]  No diss to him if you're seeing this, but.
[00:02:28]  Tyler, fuck you, Tyler.
[00:02:29]  You suck.
[00:02:31]  But it was.
[00:02:32]  It's not like it's about a Skid Row.
[00:02:34]  I mean, some people have little things around Skid Row.
[00:02:36]  Yeah, a lot of pods are in hell.
[00:02:39]  In hell.
[00:02:40]  This is nice.
[00:02:41]  You got a nice setup here.
[00:02:43]  70s.
[00:02:44]  Reminds me of the 70s.
[00:02:45]  Yeah, that's what I was going for.
[00:02:47]  I was actually originally going for the look of, you know, in The Sopranos when he sits in there and talks to psychiatrists.
[00:02:52]  Like their room.
[00:02:54]  Yeah.
[00:02:55]  Have you seen The Sopranos?
[00:02:56]  Like, honestly, it's two Fs.
[00:02:57]  Isn't that crazy?
[00:02:58]  Yeah.
[00:02:58]  You know what's crazy, bro?
[00:02:59]  I don't know anything about you, but I know concrete media.
[00:03:03]  Really?
[00:03:03]  And I know you have a big following.
[00:03:05]  How do you know that?
[00:03:06]  And you don't know.
[00:03:06]  Because I see your clips get recommended to me.
[00:03:09]  Oh, really?
[00:03:09]  Yeah.
[00:03:09]  So you have like 450,000.
[00:03:11]  Yeah.
[00:03:12]  And I don't know who you are.
[00:03:13]  And yet you are now a destination that you got me, whatever I am.
[00:03:18]  I'm like a mainstream.
[00:03:19]  You're a Hollywood superstar.
[00:03:20]  Well, I'm a mainstream name, but this is what the beautiful thing is of our world right now.
[00:03:25]  Guys like you can have this.
[00:03:27]  Hub that's little, but it's not it's becoming very big.
[00:03:30]  I did this in Austin There's another group over there called the drinking bros.
[00:03:34]  They're blowing up and it's like every city has it So it's like media is completely disrupted forever.
[00:03:39]  It's dope.
[00:03:40]  Yeah, it is super weird, right?
[00:03:42]  Like I would have never some little kid in a crackhead town would never have the chance to talk to or interview a guy of your caliber and you came here.
[00:03:49]  You came here to talk to me.
[00:03:50]  I came to you.
[00:03:51]  I got my Duncan and I listened to driving you saw my uber driver She was fine, right?
[00:03:56]  Oh, she's super hot Shout out to her driving the Malibu, the Black Malibu.
[00:04:02]  Came in the Malibuzi.
[00:04:07]  But honestly, it was the numbers.
[00:04:09]  And then BT at the club was like, yeah, man, they got big following.
[00:04:13]  BT blew you up.
[00:04:14]  Like, in fact, two other people in Florida told me about you.
[00:04:17]  Really?
[00:04:18]  Yeah.
[00:04:18]  Wow.
[00:04:19]  Your name rings bells.
[00:04:21]  Lubing me up right now.
[00:04:22]  You're making me feel good.
[00:04:23]  Juicy.
[00:04:24]  Loving it.
[00:04:24]  Loving it.
[00:04:26]  So you're here on like a tour right now doing comedy or what?
[00:04:31]  Yeah, I mean, we fucking were doing comedy in fucking parks and top of parking lots and forests in LA.
[00:04:42]  Like every comic you see on Netflix was like playing a bush.
[00:04:46]  And we were of a different experience.
[00:04:49]  Hey, real quick, keep an eye out for him because he might come in later.
[00:04:53]  And then the world slowly opened up and people started making me offers.
[00:04:58]  And I was like, do I want to go inside?
[00:05:01]  And then I saw like one comedian going inside.
[00:05:03]  They like check the filtration systems and then the club here is incredible.
[00:05:08]  Side splitters is incredible.
[00:05:09]  It's like BT who owns it put he put these lights dude in the AC so it's like those those uh infrareds.
[00:05:18]  Oh the ones that Trump was talking about that kill the virus for real dude, but they do he's got mad air conditioning people spread out but still packed and these lights so it's like everyone's getting a wash of black light It's no, it's like a UVA light.
[00:05:35]  So he's like so on it.
[00:05:37]  And it's like, boom.
[00:05:38]  And then we do a meet and greet.
[00:05:39]  Outsider on six feet, buys a package, takes a picture, takes the mask, walks away.
[00:05:44]  Like it was smooth as silk.
[00:05:46]  So, yeah, man.
[00:05:47]  So I got a bunch.
[00:05:48]  I mean, I'm booked until the middle of October.
[00:05:50]  We'll see before the world shuts down.
[00:05:52]  Yeah.
[00:05:53]  I just started June 1st.
[00:05:54]  Yeah.
[00:05:55]  We're not shutting down Florida.
[00:05:56]  The rest of the world will shut down, but Florida's not.
[00:05:58]  The world will be shut down and Florida will still be slanging.
[00:06:00]  DeSantis will shut us down.
[00:06:01]  Shout out Taco Bus.
[00:06:04]  Yo, it closed at midnight, bro.
[00:06:06]  I usually go there at 3 a.m. and get my cracked taco.
[00:06:09]  That is weird.
[00:06:09]  They close at midnight in Tampa?
[00:06:11]  Yeah, bro.
[00:06:11]  It's weird.
[00:06:12]  Like, the next thing you know, Mons Venus is going to be closing at like 1 a.m.
[00:06:16]  Like, what's going on?
[00:06:17]  Oh, he was the last guy I had in here.
[00:06:19]  Mons Venus?
[00:06:19]  The guy who owns Mons Venus.
[00:06:20]  Wow.
[00:06:21]  Yeah.
[00:06:22]  I bet he's sitting on some cake.
[00:06:24]  Yeah, he is, man.
[00:06:25]  He's crazy.
[00:06:26]  Crazy old man.
[00:06:27]  Crazy old, old guy.
[00:06:29]  Got the spaceship.
[00:06:30]  Pony tile.
[00:06:30]  No, no, no, no.
[00:06:31]  He doesn't own the.
[00:06:31]  No, that spaceship room.
[00:06:33]  That's Mons Venus.
[00:06:34]  That's not Mons Venus.
[00:06:35]  That's, uh, that's, uh, Oh, 2001.
[00:06:38]  2001, yeah, okay, okay.
[00:06:39]  That's 2001.
[00:06:40]  Mons is right across the street.
[00:06:41]  Mons is like this little tiny hole in the wall right across the street.
[00:06:44]  You don't even really see it.
[00:06:45]  It's right next to the Taco Bell.
[00:06:46]  But none of the women there have, like, bullet holes.
[00:06:49]  No, there's no bullet holes.
[00:06:50]  Yeah.
[00:06:50]  The women there.
[00:06:51]  All the women that go to the strip clubs in Tampa, they all come from all over Florida.
[00:06:55]  It's, you know.
[00:06:57]  They drive, like, three hours to go to work because they make so much money there.
[00:07:00]  Yeah, it's the strip club is here.

=== Acting vs Political Opinions (15:40) ===

[00:07:03]  This is kind of like the how can I say this?
[00:07:07]  Uh, it's the type o blood of strip, meaning that like type o blood, as they say, the caviar of blood.
[00:07:12]  It's like you can't take anyone's blood but you can give your blood to anyone.
[00:07:16]  I know that's a weird reference, but I was talking to a doctor earlier about all this and Covid and basically it's the strippers here are that it's like a very high-end industry here it is.
[00:07:27]  It is like this is like the capital.
[00:07:29]  I love how you keep wiping that thing down.
[00:07:30]  It's ptsd.
[00:07:31]  Everybody that comes from Los Angeles is very paranoid about the, the clean cleanliness.
[00:07:35]  It's dumb.
[00:07:36]  It's a funny thing.
[00:07:37]  I know it's not me, it's just ptsd.
[00:07:40]  No, I Oh, it's PTSD from the media.
[00:07:42]  Yeah, for real, bro.
[00:07:43]  Like, it's like, the virus is everywhere.
[00:07:45]  But it's like not.
[00:07:47]  Yeah.
[00:07:47]  And then it's like, you come to Florida and everyone's like chilling, eating a taco, riding a beach cruiser, no drama.
[00:07:55]  I've had no drama so far.
[00:07:57]  Really?
[00:07:57]  I've had packed shows, no drama, no fights.
[00:08:01]  And I see a lot of people wearing masks.
[00:08:03]  Yeah, a lot of people wearing masks.
[00:08:04]  But a lot of people don't like to follow the mask rules.
[00:08:07]  But I don't see like any people out there with signs doing shit.
[00:08:11]  None of that.
[00:08:12]  No.
[00:08:12]  So it's like, it's what I'm saying is a little bit of and then your numbers were bumped up three times more than what they were.
[00:08:18]  Did you read that?
[00:08:19]  The CDC lied and said 28,000 people had the case, but it was only half of that.
[00:08:24]  So it was about 15,000.
[00:08:25]  When did that happen?
[00:08:26]  Happened two days ago.
[00:08:27]  Really?
[00:08:28]  So it was like people are like trying to make Florida look like, you know, Florida man.
[00:08:32]  Yeah, they were.
[00:08:33]  They always try to do that to us.
[00:08:34]  Yeah, they fuck you.
[00:08:35]  Those bastards.
[00:08:37]  Those bastards.
[00:08:38]  I feel like I'm interviewing you.
[00:08:40]  When's the interview going to start?
[00:08:41]  It's already started.
[00:08:42]  This is how it always goes.
[00:08:43]  That's why you don't know who I am.
[00:08:44]  I know.
[00:08:45]  That's why you don't know him because I'm a shitty interviewer.
[00:08:46]  I just do this.
[00:08:47]  I get people like you on here.
[00:08:48]  No, we talk.
[00:08:49]  We open up.
[00:08:50]  Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[00:08:50]  You know, I just watched your podcast, your four-hour podcast with Burt.
[00:08:55]  Oh, really?
[00:08:56]  Yeah.
[00:08:56]  How?
[00:08:57]  Just now to prepare for this?
[00:08:59]  I just watched it in the last, like 48 hours it took me to on and off.
[00:09:02]  I just watched it.
[00:09:02]  It was great.
[00:09:03]  It wasn't even like a podcast.
[00:09:04]  Like you guys were just sitting there on the couch getting drunk and talking shit.
[00:09:07]  It was hilarious.
[00:09:08]  Dude, Burt is the man.
[00:09:10]  He is Florida royalty, isn't he?
[00:09:12]  I just, I learned on that podcast that he's from Tampa.
[00:09:14]  I had no idea he was from Tampa.
[00:09:15]  He's actually from Tampa.
[00:09:16]  Wow.
[00:09:16]  That's what he said on the podcast.
[00:09:18]  Yeah, Burt is.
[00:09:18]  I was paying attention.
[00:09:19]  Burt is like one of the greatest.
[00:09:21]  And yeah, I did like a four-hour pod with him.
[00:09:24]  Like he's, he has so much fun.
[00:09:27]  It's like you guys forgot you were even doing a podcast.
[00:09:29]  100%.
[00:09:29]  That's what he does.
[00:09:30]  Sitting on a couch.
[00:09:31]  And I'm like, oh shit, his camera's in.
[00:09:33]  Yeah, it was incredible.
[00:09:34]  He's awesome.
[00:09:35]  Is he in LA also close to you?
[00:09:38]  I think, yeah, he's not far.
[00:09:39]  I think he's over, he might be in the valley.
[00:09:43]  And I'm over in the hill and more towards Hollywood.
[00:09:46]  But yeah, he's got a dope setup.
[00:09:48]  Now you have a podcast, right?
[00:09:49]  Yeah.
[00:09:50]  When did you start it?
[00:09:53]  I kind of started it in 2017.
[00:09:55]  And it was like, it was called Hate to Break It To You.
[00:09:59]  And it was a way for me to start talking to like, to my fans another version of me.
[00:10:08]  You know what I mean?
[00:10:08]  Because it's like people know me from movies and stuff, but like people who know me know me.
[00:10:12]  You know what I mean?
[00:10:12]  But it's like a pod.
[00:10:13]  It's like you keep it real.
[00:10:15]  And then I was doing it a little bit and it was a lot of work and then I was getting so busy and I was doing like different movie or TV show and it was hard to do, you know?
[00:10:24]  Yeah.
[00:10:25]  Then I didn't have the right producers.
[00:10:27]  And then when the pandemic hit, I was like, I'm really going to do it.
[00:10:31]  So then I just buckled down and now I'm like into it.
[00:10:33]  So I try to put out an episode every week, every two weeks.
[00:10:36]  But I do solos, which are easier.
[00:10:37]  The solos, though.
[00:10:38]  I feel like that's harder.
[00:10:40]  No, I have a lot to say and I have takes on stuff, but and sometimes you get a guest and they just don't It's like, you know, people really want to I have a lot of opinions.
[00:10:50]  So people like that.
[00:10:51]  Yeah, but a good guest like I have a guest on today that's gonna be great because he's my buddy who's a young He's a young stud, but he's a nurse.
[00:11:02]  He's a nurse in the I don't even want to say it because I want to get you demonetized in the sea ward.
[00:11:06]  Do you know what I'm saying?
[00:11:08]  So that's what's crazy.
[00:11:08]  We can't even talk about you, but so he's a sea ward.
[00:11:10]  Yeah, think about it.
[00:11:11]  You know, Miss Rowna So, you know what I mean?
[00:11:14]  I'm trying not to get you deed.
[00:11:16]  That's okay.
[00:11:16]  I get deed all the time.
[00:11:17]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:11:19]  And he's telling all this stuff because I put all types of information on my Instagram.
[00:11:23]  So I'm funny, so I'm not.
[00:11:24]  And people get all booty tickled.
[00:11:27]  So I got a nurse, my buddy, who's like a young kid like you, who's like on the front lines.
[00:11:34]  And so I like people like that who are like an expert in a field I know nothing about.
[00:11:38]  Yeah, that's pretty much the only type of podcast I do.
[00:11:41]  I don't really have many.
[00:11:42]  There's not really much going on in my life.
[00:11:46]  I'm being humble.
[00:11:46]  My mind is my brain is just kind of like always been soft serve.
[00:11:50]  You know what I mean.
[00:11:51]  I'm not very sharp, so like I need people like you to carry the show you're doing humble.
[00:11:55]  Are you a surfer?
[00:11:56]  Yeah, I could tell that.
[00:11:57]  How could you tell that?
[00:11:58]  Because you got kind of like the bill.
[00:12:00]  But you're like being super humble.
[00:12:01]  But you're like I'm totally assessing the situation, getting me to school, my book, getting the clips out of me.
[00:12:07]  I like your, I like it, I like your perspective.
[00:12:09]  You're smart guy.
[00:12:10]  What what what um, so the you say that you have like opinions and you're able to like talk by yourself and And get a lot of your ideas out solo.
[00:12:19]  It's kind of like Bill Burr.
[00:12:21]  He's like the best at that, right?
[00:12:22]  He's the best, yeah.
[00:12:23]  Is that come from a lot of writing?
[00:12:28]  Was that something that you developed, or was that something that you were just naturally always good at?
[00:12:33]  No, I think that we're just.
[00:12:35]  That's why I'm in comedy because it's like you have all these takes on things and they're like brewing inside of you and they're going nuts.
[00:12:43]  And you're like, I got to like expunge this.
[00:12:46]  So that's why you go on stage, you know?
[00:12:48]  And so you start doing it.
[00:12:50]  And I've had success in a lot of other areas in life, but I'm still drawn to the stage.
[00:12:55]  And it's like.
[00:12:56]  It's a way to like feel heard and share your opinions and get like like-minded individuals and be like, yo, you feeling what I'm feeling?
[00:13:04]  So it's just, it's something that it's like you look at something, it gives you, it leaves an impression on you and then you talk about it.
[00:13:12]  You regurgitate it.
[00:13:13]  I feel like being that kind of person though is not good for Hollywood though, right?
[00:13:17]  Because you can have an opinion on everything is not really good for, you don't want to piss off the establishment.
[00:13:23]  Yeah, that's a very good point.
[00:13:25]  I think that the establishment is getting disrupted though.
[00:13:28]  By, like I said, like guys like you, new media, and I think people are just starting to look at the establishment, see all the cracks, see all the see, all the stuff that they're feeding us and being like, is this, do we want this?
[00:13:39]  You know what I mean?
[00:13:40]  It's like people making this from behind this wall and this mountain and it's like yeah, it's cool, but like I want to hear, like the realness, I want to hear a voice from someone else, and so you're definitely right, but I think that's all cracking.
[00:13:54]  Has it made an impact at all on that part of your career?
[00:13:57]  Because obviously that's like the foundation.
[00:13:59]  That's where you did you.
[00:14:00]  You started acting or did you start in comedy?
[00:14:03]  I started both, you know, 1990.
[00:14:05]  But I really um got more successful as an actor but like I was making in way inroads inroads, inroads into comedy in La, but I wasn't really getting known for it.
[00:14:20]  And then, but by getting little comedy gigs, agents would see me or producers would see me.
[00:14:25]  They'd bring me and i'd read, and that's how I started getting early acting jobs and that you know commercials and like this stuff, but definitely more as an actor.
[00:14:34]  But i've been doing comedy.
[00:14:35]  You know my whole career and since you started doing like podcasts and broadcasting this kind of like raw unfiltered, and giving your opinions on like that, has that affected your acting career at all?
[00:14:48]  Or has it like, do you have agents and producers talking to you like, don't say this, don't say that, like don't, is that real?
[00:14:55]  It's so fucking real.
[00:14:57]  I don't think it.
[00:15:01]  uh It hasn't affected me yet.
[00:15:05]  There's definitely, I definitely have a representative.
[00:15:09]  I'm not going to call them out.
[00:15:10]  Who definitely told me, like, yo, go easy on saying certain stuff.
[00:15:14]  You know, you just might want to lay low, which I was like, I just kind of let it slide.
[00:15:19]  But I'm like, do you know who you represent?
[00:15:21]  You know what I mean?
[00:15:22]  Like, and this is what we do.
[00:15:23]  We don't like curtail like an artist.
[00:15:25]  Would you tell like fucking Johnny Rotten, go easy on, you know, slicing yourself with a razor blade?
[00:15:32]  No, it's Johnny Rotten.
[00:15:34]  You know, I'm not saying I'm doing that, but it's like, yeah.
[00:15:36]  So.
[00:15:37]  That was a great example of the typical, like, make money, don't rock the boat, always try to get the bag to, like, having opinions to rocking the boat.
[00:15:49]  But there's a new bag out there.
[00:15:51]  That's what I'm saying.
[00:15:51]  All of this disruptive media is making a new bag because there's an audience really want the new bag.
[00:15:58]  They're sick of the bullshit.
[00:16:00]  I hate to say that, but, like, the waking up, the real wokeness is the people waking up to all the bullshit.
[00:16:07]  That's my opinion.
[00:16:09]  Do you think that there's people out there, like, because you were just in a movie with, what was the latest movie you did?
[00:16:14]  Brad Pitt one?
[00:16:15]  The BP?
[00:16:16]  That one, I did that one, but then I got cut out.
[00:16:19]  Fuck.
[00:16:20]  What do you mean you got?
[00:16:21]  Oh, they cut you out when they were editing.
[00:16:22]  Yeah.
[00:16:23]  I had three good scenes, but they're really good.
[00:16:26]  But hopefully, I heard if it goes to Criterion Collection, then I'll be in there.
[00:16:31]  You know what that is?
[00:16:31]  That's like when the movie is, like, put in its own thing in the longer form.
[00:16:35]  Oh.
[00:16:35]  So that would be dope.
[00:16:36]  I thought they were going to make you the dad.
[00:16:39]  You should have been the dad, not Bobby Lee Jones.
[00:16:41]  BP's dad.
[00:16:43]  BP's dad in the movie, The Guy in the Spaceship.
[00:16:45]  But I did another movie, which you're talking about, which you don't know if you're talking about, but I did this movie called Roe v. Wade, and that pissed a lot of people off.
[00:16:52]  And that was just a movie about abortion.
[00:16:56]  And that pissed off a lot of people.
[00:16:57]  And a lot of Hollywood press wrote about it and started saying all the stuff.
[00:17:00]  And it was like, yo, I'm just an actor.
[00:17:03]  When was that movie?
[00:17:04]  That came out over the pandemic, like March.
[00:17:07]  And it came to all these streaming services.
[00:17:10]  But it was considered like more of a right.
[00:17:12]  Wing movie, but it's really not.
[00:17:15]  I'm just an actor.
[00:17:16]  I'm not right wing.
[00:17:16]  I'm not left wing.
[00:17:17]  I'm just a dude.
[00:17:19]  But they were, people were mad that I did that.
[00:17:21]  But so far, it really hasn't fucked me up.
[00:17:24]  What was it about?
[00:17:25]  Abortion.
[00:17:27]  Very.
[00:17:28]  The take on it was like, you shouldn't abort.
[00:17:30]  Well, the take was a little bit more like, hey, abortion's a little bit more dicey than people say.
[00:17:37]  There's a little bit of money being made.
[00:17:39]  There's an agenda there.
[00:17:40]  And a lot of people didn't like that.
[00:17:41]  They thought they were messing with their rights and got a lot of people.
[00:17:45]  Upset, and you know it's like.
[00:17:46]  Then people are asking my opinions and I'm like I'm just an actor.
[00:17:49]  And then it's like you know well, you're being irresponsible acting in it and I'm like you know it was a good role.
[00:17:57]  So it's a longer conversation, but basically, in a nutshell, that's what you should do.
[00:18:01]  You should make movies about things that cause conversation and that's what it did, even if it was uncomfortable.
[00:18:06]  Yeah, I mean, I like escapism too, but yeah well, the crazy thing about it is like, like what you're talking about, they got mad at you or like the establishment will get mad at you for doing certain types of things or having certain types of opinions, or whatever it may be.
[00:18:19]  But it's like coming full circle with YouTube too, because now everyone's in the media right now talking about how YouTube demonetizes people and it make they make conversations that like that they don't think it could be like an accredit, like you were talking about, like your buddy who you're going to interview today, the guy who's a nurse.
[00:18:38]  They'll probably demonetize it if he talks about COVID or has any kind of opinions on it, and they make it unprofitable to talk about that kind of shit.
[00:18:49]  Don't you think that's weird?
[00:18:51]  I mean, yeah, of course, it's fucking crazy.
[00:18:53]  It's scary as shit.
[00:18:54]  But it's like coming full circle.
[00:18:55]  It's like now YouTube is you can't talk about certain things, or else you get deplatformed or demonetized.
[00:19:00]  I know.
[00:19:01]  So, what does that tell you?
[00:19:02]  That tells you you got to join, what's his name?
[00:19:05]  Glenn Greenwald's Rumble website.
[00:19:06]  I just saw that.
[00:19:08]  I just saw it.
[00:19:09]  It kind of looked kind of dope.
[00:19:10]  But then they're going to call you like a right winger, right?
[00:19:13]  I guess, probably.
[00:19:14]  He was on.
[00:19:16]  I saw that he tweeted about it.
[00:19:16]  What's Glenn Greenwald?
[00:19:18]  He's like he's a gay political guy.
[00:19:21]  He started.
[00:19:22]  He started some media platform a long time ago.
[00:19:26]  And then you need to address it.
[00:19:27]  There's like two little levers on the left side.
[00:19:29]  Just pull it down.
[00:19:29]  What do you want to go down?
[00:19:30]  Yeah.
[00:19:31]  So there's the back left one.
[00:19:33]  Pull it up.
[00:19:34]  I did.
[00:19:35]  Didn't go down?
[00:19:37]  Oh, there you go.
[00:19:39]  That was a way to describe that.
[00:19:40]  You're going to get so much shit.
[00:19:42]  He's a gay political guy.
[00:19:44]  He's a gay political guy, but he's got a lot of really good takes.
[00:19:48]  Why wouldn't he?
[00:19:49]  Why wouldn't he?
[00:19:49]  He's obviously a left wing guy, but he just shits on the hypocrisy of Leckwood.
[00:19:57]  Left wing politics and all the corrupt people in there, and how, like, you know, he talks a lot about like the deplatformization of people and like the freedom of the press, and how they're like trying to, you know, put Julian Assange, however you say his name, in prison for life, even though he's overseas, and like turning journalists, you know, into basically trying to incarcerate journalists for talking about whatever they want to talk about.
[00:20:24]  Yeah.
[00:20:24]  And he just, you know, lately, I've just noticed he's been pointing out a lot of the hypocrisy and that kind of stuff.
[00:20:29]  And he's actually pretty cool because he's, He's just this like gay left wing guy, but he's going on all of these right wing shows like Tucker Carlson, and the uh democratic people hate him for that.
[00:20:39]  Oh, wow, why would you go and talk about you know on this guy's show because he's keeping an open mind?
[00:20:44]  He is keeping an open mind, that's why I like the guy.
[00:20:46]  He's like he's very smart.
[00:20:47]  And he started Rumble.
[00:20:49]  He started, I don't know if he started Rumble.
[00:20:51]  I learned about him through the guy Tim Dillon.
[00:20:54]  Yeah, I learned he was on his show.
[00:20:55]  Okay, so that's how I found out who he was, and then he's just been pushing this Rumble thing, and maybe it probably is his.
[00:21:01]  I gotta go, dude.
[00:21:03]  But think about this.
[00:21:05]  Look how insane this is that you can't talk about certain stuff.
[00:21:10]  Like, I get, like, it's like that you're being demonetized.
[00:21:13]  What does that tell you?
[00:21:15]  Like, YouTube used to be, like, the freest, craziest shit.
[00:21:21]  The fact that they are, like, that just shows you that's, like, if something is, if there was no, I call fuckery, charcuterie, because, you know, I try to use code word.
[00:21:33]  If there was no charcuterie there, You would be fine.
[00:21:37]  It's not like you're saying, if you're just going saying something against what a bigger message is being pushed, as That's weird, and that's what I'm saying, and then when you comment on it, people are like no, it's like you're being controlled, like if you can't have an up an opposing opinion with based in some type of of reality, Then we're in a trouble and I just feel like that's what that's.
[00:22:05]  What's weird bro, like big tech is now a monopoly, is that?
[00:22:10]  Yeah, but they're like and they're and they're pushing the same narrative as like uh, let's just say CNN and i'm not saying CNN all has bad stuff, it has some cool stuff yeah, but it's definitely a biased thing.
[00:22:23]  Just like obviously FOX is biased, but FOX is like the, the DARK STAR, and CNN is like considered Luke.
[00:22:31]  You know what I mean, but are they?
[00:22:34]  Yeah, and it's.
[00:22:35]  I mean, as everyone is, it's.
[00:22:36]  All everyone talks about now is like everybody knows that FOX and CNN are these two completely polar opposite things that just push headlines for views.

=== Big Tech Monopoly Narratives (06:04) ===

[00:22:44]  Yeah.
[00:22:44]  And I think those shows, these shows don't aren't very successful.
[00:22:47]  They get those daytime or nighttime segments they have on those shows get way less viewership than your average podcast gets.
[00:22:55]  Yeah, totally.
[00:22:55]  Like then your episode with Burt probably got twice as many views as any episode of Tucker Carlson gets.
[00:23:01]  That's crazy.
[00:23:02]  You know, it is crazy.
[00:23:03]  That's nuts.
[00:23:05]  Well, yeah, but pods are super like, you know, informative and people are just going in and they get, it's free form speech.
[00:23:11]  You get to say what you want.
[00:23:11]  Have a seat, Mike.
[00:23:13]  Oh, what's up, dude?
[00:23:14]  This is my friend and client, Mike.
[00:23:16]  What's up, Mike?
[00:23:17]  He's going to join us.
[00:23:18]  How you doing, man?
[00:23:18]  How you doing?
[00:23:19]  You jumped in late.
[00:23:21]  We're talking about what happened, Mike?
[00:23:23]  Where were you at?
[00:23:23]  Yeah, where were you?
[00:23:24]  My flight was late.
[00:23:25]  Your flight was late?
[00:23:25]  You were in the car, dude.
[00:23:27]  He was in the Tesla.
[00:23:28]  Well, now you've blown my cover.
[00:23:30]  Yeah.
[00:23:31]  All right, Mike.
[00:23:34]  You're not coughing anymore.
[00:23:35]  There were only three of us here that do that.
[00:23:36]  He's worried about don't cough because he's worried about I've got my card.
[00:23:39]  I've got my card.
[00:23:39]  He's wrong.
[00:23:40]  Oh, he's got his card.
[00:23:42]  Can you show me your card?
[00:23:43]  That's all right.
[00:23:43]  You can buy those in Tijuana, Mike.
[00:23:46]  That's all right.
[00:23:46]  I'll need to see it.
[00:23:47]  I got you.
[00:23:47]  The thing is, I haven't been to Tijuana.
[00:23:48]  He could be shedding.
[00:23:51]  No, but even if you have your card, you can still spread it, Mike.
[00:23:54]  Spread her.
[00:23:55]  You want to put my mask on?
[00:23:56]  No, you're fine.
[00:23:57]  I have my Darth Vader mask.
[00:23:58]  You're fine.
[00:24:00]  You're fine.
[00:24:02]  I have a hockey mask.
[00:24:03]  It won't protect germs, but if you throw something at me, we're good.
[00:24:10]  He was worried about coming here because he called this town Crack Town.
[00:24:14]  And then he felt better once he got into the studio because it's a decent location.
[00:24:17]  Nice.
[00:24:18]  It was like I was walking around.
[00:24:20]  I was a little paranoid.
[00:24:22]  Really?
[00:24:22]  Yeah.
[00:24:23]  Don't be paranoid.
[00:24:24]  You're good.
[00:24:25]  He pulled up in the car with the door open.
[00:24:27]  He was driving down the street with the back.
[00:24:29]  You were driving out the back door open.
[00:24:31]  Ghost Ride the Whip.
[00:24:32]  What were you ready to do?
[00:24:33]  Jump out?
[00:24:34]  I was ready to just, you never know when you have to jam out.
[00:24:36]  You know what I mean?
[00:24:37]  And I was like, I was about to run out.
[00:24:39]  And I'm like, all right, just go to, because I need a little Walgreens.
[00:24:42]  And I'm like, I'll just run out.
[00:24:43]  And then she's like, oh, he's over here.
[00:24:44]  So she flipped a B.
[00:24:46]  And I was like, remember.
[00:24:49]  You liked it, though.
[00:24:50]  I did it.
[00:24:51]  Gluckman's down with the bitches in a hose.
[00:24:53]  The bitches in the hose, Mike.
[00:24:56]  My daughter and I watched that movie.
[00:25:00]  Conservatively 20 times.
[00:25:01]  Nah.
[00:25:02]  You tell me any part of that movie, and if you can stump me, I'll give you your watch.
[00:25:09]  You're watching.
[00:25:10]  All right, ready, Mike?
[00:25:13]  Okay.
[00:25:14]  Shrink, shrink, blinkety blink.
[00:25:16]  Shrink, blink, blink, shrink.
[00:25:22]  Shrink, shrink, blinkety blink.
[00:25:26]  Yeah, but it's about the.
[00:25:28]  When he wants to.
[00:25:29]  Try to make me think.
[00:25:30]  Can you finish it, Ryan?
[00:25:31]  Yeah.
[00:25:32]  Trying to make me think.
[00:25:33]  Gotta go to the sink.
[00:25:34]  Go to the sink.
[00:25:35]  And vomit.
[00:25:37]  Clean it up with comet.
[00:25:38]  Yo, Earth is my planet.
[00:25:40]  Yeah.
[00:25:40]  My planet.
[00:25:41]  Planet.
[00:25:42]  Because I had to make a rhyme.
[00:25:47]  Mike, appreciate it.
[00:25:48]  Mike's a big fan.
[00:25:49]  Mike's a huge fan.
[00:25:49]  Huge fan.
[00:25:49]  Keep throwing them at me.
[00:25:51]  Keep throwing them at me.
[00:25:52]  It's the funniest movie ever.
[00:25:54]  Appreciate it.
[00:25:55]  I think it's aging well, too, right, Mike?
[00:25:57]  Yeah, it is.
[00:25:58]  It is.
[00:25:59]  And do you.
[00:26:03]  Do you ever, is that your most well-known?
[00:26:09]  That, Scream, Jamie Kenny Experiment for the Super Comedy Heads, Ghost Whisperer for the Midwest Mommies.
[00:26:21]  Those are like the four that really hit.
[00:26:22]  I mean, then there's like movies like Enemy of the State and different movies that like people go, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:26:27]  But yeah, I would say Malibu's over there.
[00:26:30]  And that one, you were 75% of the movie.
[00:26:32]  So, I mean, it's your.
[00:26:34]  Yeah.
[00:26:35]  Yeah, I mean, that was my baby.
[00:26:36]  Yeah, that was.
[00:26:37]  That was, that was you.
[00:26:38]  You didn't have a part in it.
[00:26:40]  Um, he was.
[00:26:41]  The other people had fractional, fractional parts.
[00:26:44]  Yeah, the movie was, it was b-rad.
[00:26:46]  Yeah, that's what I was trying to do, you know, trying to be that character up in the Bizzo.
[00:26:52]  What was the deal with?
[00:26:53]  How did that?
[00:26:53]  What was the deal with that movie?
[00:26:54]  How did it come about?
[00:26:55]  Like, what was like, how did they approach you with it?
[00:26:58]  Was it your?
[00:26:59]  No, so it was like at that time, a lot of late 90s, you know, white boy, wannabe gangsters that was like a big, uh affliction.
[00:27:09]  That now is accepted, but at the time it was a new strain of an affliction.
[00:27:16]  People were like, what is this?
[00:27:18]  And there's a couple movies that like, I went in for and I didn't get.
[00:27:22]  But I always had that character, you know, and I did stand-up, like I was saying and I was make.
[00:27:26]  My stand-up was basically just trying characters and then getting it going.
[00:27:31]  And then I did the show, the Jamie Kang Experiment, which is a whole other ball of wax, and then the character got very popular.
[00:27:37]  So I had a script for it, You know, kind of like Mike Myers, who's one of my heroes in making characters in the movies.
[00:27:42]  And then I bought it to Warner Brothers, and my show was at Warner Brothers.
[00:27:46]  So they were like, oh, this is interesting.
[00:27:47]  And so, you know, we developed it and boom, you know, we did it for a low budget.
[00:27:53]  And, you know, then they got the great cast and boom, we were off to the races.
[00:27:58]  And it was incredible.
[00:27:59]  Do you still, like, to this day, if you're in public and a stranger calls you B-Rad?
[00:28:07]  People say, people look at me now and they say, are you B-Rad's kidnapper?
[00:28:14]  Well, the reason I ask is.
[00:28:16]  But they do.
[00:28:16]  They'll roll up on me and say some shrinks, right?
[00:28:19]  And, yeah, shrinks.
[00:28:20]  Blinkety blink.
[00:28:21]  Strengthety shrink blinkety blink, trying to make me think.
[00:28:23]  You can the sink.
[00:28:23]  Yeah.
[00:28:24]  Sometimes, as I've been friends with Meyer Lopez for years, and one time out in Vegas, this is probably 15 years ago.
[00:28:33]  You're going to drop a jewel.
[00:28:34]  You're going to drop a jewel, Mike.
[00:28:36]  I don't know about that, man.
[00:28:37]  I don't know about that.
[00:28:40]  But just by chance, we were at the Hard Rock.
[00:28:42]  It was on New Year's Eve.
[00:28:43]  We used to go every New Year's Eve.
[00:28:46]  For business.
[00:28:47]  Exactly.

=== Led Zeppelin and Deep Messages (04:38) ===

[00:28:48]  It was business.
[00:28:49]  But playing blackjack, and I was with Darius Rucker on one side.
[00:28:54]  Yeah.
[00:28:55]  And And Mario on the other side.
[00:28:57]  Boots.
[00:28:58]  And everybody was calling him Hootie and more Mario Slater.
[00:29:04]  And both of them, it just annoyed the shit out of both of them.
[00:29:07]  Wait, why would these guys aren't playing at a public table?
[00:29:10]  Well, on the floor?
[00:29:12]  I never said that.
[00:29:13]  Can we rewind the tape?
[00:29:14]  But who would.
[00:29:16]  No, it had to be public because if they had a private table, no one would say that.
[00:29:21]  So they were getting annoyed.
[00:29:23]  Yeah.
[00:29:24]  It happens.
[00:29:25]  I mean, sometimes it's like, it just depends.
[00:29:27]  If you.
[00:29:27]  Like, you know, Darius and Mario are just normal people.
[00:29:30]  You know what I mean?
[00:29:31]  They just happen to be famous and are, you know, like myself.
[00:29:34]  I'm very fortunate.
[00:29:35]  But there are days when you just want to play blackjack and you don't want someone to come up to you going, what's up, Slater?
[00:29:40]  You know what I mean?
[00:29:41]  No, no, no.
[00:29:42]  I know.
[00:29:42]  I know.
[00:29:42]  It took them a long time.
[00:29:44]  Yeah.
[00:29:44]  But you kind of got to be ready for it if you're at a public table.
[00:29:47]  100%.
[00:29:47]  Like, you got to be, you have to go in with your best foot forward.
[00:29:53]  And the problem is, is that we can't make mistakes.
[00:29:55]  If we do, then we're, you know, POSs.
[00:29:58]  Oh, man, Jimmy Candy.
[00:29:59]  And it's like, yo, I might have gas.
[00:30:01]  I might have had a bad bowl of oatmeal.
[00:30:03]  My girlfriend might have, like, you know, hollered at me.
[00:30:06]  You know, I might have just lost money in the stock market.
[00:30:08]  You don't know what's going on.
[00:30:09]  And it's like, fuck.
[00:30:10]  And it's like, so, you know, that's what it is.
[00:30:13]  But as an artist, when you did something that put you on the map.
[00:30:17]  100%.
[00:30:18]  I'm very fortunate.
[00:30:19]  And then you've done so many things that are so much better.
[00:30:25]  So much better.
[00:30:25]  I mean, you've grown as an artist.
[00:30:27]  Yeah.
[00:30:28]  And everyone still wants to bring you back to that.
[00:30:30]  Yeah.
[00:30:31]  Well, no.
[00:30:31]  I.
[00:30:32]  That to me is very high art.
[00:30:33]  Malibu's is very high art.
[00:30:35]  It's pop art.
[00:30:37]  It doesn't take itself seriously, but there's a lot of messages in it.
[00:30:40]  It's aging very nicely.
[00:30:41]  You got the biggest booties in the stable?
[00:30:43]  Yeah, it's got the biggest booties.
[00:30:45]  But it really has to do with cultural appropriation, which is a big topic now, but also cultural appropriation and appreciation.
[00:30:54]  That's what the movie's about.
[00:30:55]  Where's appropriation?
[00:30:56]  What's appreciation?
[00:30:57]  And for me, it was based on my love of hip-hop.
[00:30:59]  You know what I mean?
[00:30:59]  Just because I'm a white dude doesn't mean I can't love it and can't rap to it, but that's what I love.
[00:31:04]  I grew up on two, you know, Led Zeppelin.
[00:31:06]  And then somebody gave me hip hop, and I was like, oh, shit.
[00:31:08]  So I love Led Zeppelin, but I also really love hip hop.
[00:31:11]  So it hit me at a young age.
[00:31:12]  Well, you can be diverse.
[00:31:14]  Yeah.
[00:31:15]  But it wasn't like that, as you know, in the early 80s.
[00:31:17]  It was like hip hop was like, you know, more like inner city, and Led Zeppelin was more like suburban kids.
[00:31:23]  Right.
[00:31:23]  And I was always like, kept my foot really in both.
[00:31:26]  But when it comes to those mixing of cultures and different, you know, musics and that sort of thing, I don't think anything is more just validated than.
[00:31:40]  Than Kurt Cobain and Irana with the big hair bands.
[00:31:44]  I mean, when that grunge music came out of Seattle, I mean, you know, Van Halen and Motley Crue and all of them went, oh, geez, we're fucked.
[00:32:00]  Well, because grunge was so intense.
[00:32:03]  Yeah, but it was like a light switch.
[00:32:06]  Well, yeah, I mean, Van Halen's different.
[00:32:08]  I think they're a much deeper band and they're so interesting.
[00:32:11]  But I think some of the hair bands that were more fluffy realized how deep Kurt was.
[00:32:15]  Kurt's like a super generational artist.
[00:32:20]  He's like John Lennon.
[00:32:21]  So you're saying that just completely.
[00:32:23]  I remember that.
[00:32:24]  You're right.
[00:32:24]  It shut down that whole fluffy and became as raw as it can be.
[00:32:30]  As great as Molly Crew was.
[00:32:33]  Yeah, I love Molly Crew.
[00:32:34]  And other bands for that matter, they're.
[00:32:37]  You're just saying he was so deep.
[00:32:39]  There's so much pathos.
[00:32:40]  The unfortunate thing, really, is that he has such great music.
[00:32:46]  And in my personal opinion, it was so great because he was a really troubled soul.
[00:32:53]  Yeah.
[00:32:54]  And, you know, he did some great stuff that, you know.
[00:32:59]  Do you ever see the HBO?
[00:33:00]  I would never want to be in his place.
[00:33:01]  Did you ever see the HBO documentary about him?
[00:33:03]  I've seen, like, there's, like, there's multiple ones.
[00:33:06]  There was one with the drawing.
[00:33:08]  They took his book of writings and stuff and they, like, put animation to it.
[00:33:13]  It's insane.
[00:33:14]  He's incredible.
[00:33:16]  Yeah, he seemed like a very, very troubled guy.
[00:33:19]  It seems like some of the most successful artists in anything, in any form, are the most deeply troubled, drug addicted.

=== Channeling Pain Into Greatness (03:14) ===

[00:33:26]  Oh, absolutely.
[00:33:27]  I think so.
[00:33:28]  Absolutely.
[00:33:29]  Janice Joplin and Jim Morrison and 27 Club.
[00:33:33]  Yeah.
[00:33:33]  I think you know what?
[00:33:34]  I mean, it doesn't mean you look.
[00:33:38]  It doesn't mean you can't grow up in a nice life and not create something great, but usually troubled people channel that pain in this usually into something really amazing.
[00:33:48]  You know, Amy Winehouse, amazing.
[00:33:49]  Right.
[00:33:50]  So it's, you know, there again.
[00:33:53]  Yeah, I know.
[00:33:54]  I know.
[00:33:54]  It's intense.
[00:33:55]  But like.
[00:33:55]  The circumstances and the outcome.
[00:33:57]  Yeah.
[00:33:57]  It's unfortunate.
[00:33:58]  It's so unfortunate.
[00:33:59]  But it's like, you know, Roseanne.
[00:34:02]  Yeah.
[00:34:03]  She's still here.
[00:34:05]  Roseanne.
[00:34:06]  She's still here.
[00:34:07]  You can just go.
[00:34:08]  I'll take care of her.
[00:34:09]  She's still here.
[00:34:12]  But, yeah, it's unfortunate.
[00:34:14]  And even, you know, many artists that are still around and, let's say, they write their best music.
[00:34:21]  They're not creative unless they're depressed and.
[00:34:26]  It's a way to cope.
[00:34:28]  Yeah, it's the music, the lyrics, the just that pours out of them.
[00:34:35]  Yeah.
[00:34:36]  When they're, you know, everyone has good days and bad days.
[00:34:39]  Yeah.
[00:34:41]  They'll say that their best writing or any of their writing usually doesn't come on the good day.
[00:34:48]  Yeah.
[00:34:49]  It comes on the depressed day, you know, curtains closed, haven't left the house for two days.
[00:34:54]  Yeah.
[00:34:56]  And then when they emerge, they emerge with.
[00:34:59]  Just genius.
[00:35:01]  Yeah.
[00:35:02]  You know what I love talking about podcasts?
[00:35:04]  About people.
[00:35:04]  I hate that because I'm still in Hollywood.
[00:35:06]  So let's avoid all that.
[00:35:07]  Jesus Christ.
[00:35:08]  Oh, you can't talk about me.
[00:35:09]  Oh, yeah.
[00:35:10]  We just popped all your tires, didn't we?
[00:35:12]  Mike came in.
[00:35:13]  We started talking about it.
[00:35:16]  Can you go back to whatever you were doing?
[00:35:18]  Oh, I got one I want to talk about.
[00:35:19]  Hey, he brought up the Marilyn Manson thing.
[00:35:22]  I'm just saying, you know, most great music, not most.
[00:35:26]  They're a pain.
[00:35:26]  A lot of great music, and they'll tell you it's when I'm in my darkest hour.
[00:35:32]  These words just flow out of me.
[00:35:34]  Yeah.
[00:35:34]  Totally.
[00:35:35]  Yeah.
[00:35:35]  Mike, what do you do?
[00:35:37]  I actually own a chain of hearing centers.
[00:35:39]  Oh, a hearing center.
[00:35:40]  It fits people with hearing losses.
[00:35:41]  We do automated testing and audible hearing aids.
[00:35:44]  You're like a, you like helping society.
[00:35:48]  Yeah, it's audible hearing aids.
[00:35:50]  It's literally the only thing I've ever done.
[00:35:52]  Wow.
[00:35:53]  I started in this industry when I was 21, and I'm still doing it.
[00:35:57]  It's awesome.
[00:35:59]  He goes to like Africa, and he'll fit like thousands of kids with hearing aids.
[00:36:03]  Yeah, a lot of people give a dollar, but they won't give an hour, you know?
[00:36:06]  Yeah.
[00:36:07]  So, you know, some of the places.
[00:36:12]  You don't want to be in.
[00:36:14]  Yeah, don't.
[00:36:14]  Yeah.
[00:36:16]  A little scary, but, you know, prior to the pandemic, I was probably doing five missions a year between one week and three weeks.
[00:36:28]  So you're a missionary?
[00:36:30]  Well, I'm an entrepreneur.
[00:36:31]  Entrepreneur, yeah.
[00:36:34]  Go to like Botswana and stuff like that.
[00:36:36]  I've been to Africa twice, all over the country twice.
[00:36:38]  Congo?
[00:36:39]  Yep.

=== Entrepreneurial Missionary Work (15:41) ===

[00:36:40]  I know.
[00:36:42]  Honduras, Mexico, I have no idea how many times, tons of times.
[00:36:48]  Peru, just any place where it's, you know, just impoverished and people wouldn't get help otherwise.
[00:36:56]  Yeah.
[00:36:57]  You know, beautiful.
[00:36:58]  Yeah.
[00:36:59]  So, how's your hearing?
[00:37:01]  This isn't about me, it's about you.
[00:37:04]  That's a real, that's beautiful.
[00:37:05]  That's a real story, though.
[00:37:07]  My hearing is okay that I know of.
[00:37:08]  Jesus.
[00:37:08]  Good.
[00:37:09]  I hear that every day.
[00:37:15]  Come here, let me fix you.
[00:37:16]  Gotta get checked out, bro.
[00:37:17]  Gotta get checked out.
[00:37:18]  Don't let that ring in your ears get too loud.
[00:37:20]  That's the aliens.
[00:37:21]  You know, I wanted to ask you, speaking of talking about people in Hollywood, do you still talk to Nick Swartzen?
[00:37:27]  Oh, yeah.
[00:37:28]  Nick Swartzen.
[00:37:29]  He's one of the funniest motherfuckers.
[00:37:30]  He was like one of my, like the first comedians I was ever exposed to as a young guy.
[00:37:33]  A Day in the Life of was the first time I ever saw him.
[00:37:35]  The cocaine thing?
[00:37:36]  Oh, my God.
[00:37:37]  The Day in the Life of.
[00:37:38]  And it was probably 15 years ago.
[00:37:41]  Yeah.
[00:37:42]  It's the funniest damn thing I've ever seen.
[00:37:44]  Yeah.
[00:37:45]  At the time.
[00:37:46]  He's the greatest.
[00:37:47]  He helped, you know, he was like the guy that really helped push Malibu and he wrote it and, you know, and then like.
[00:37:52]  Yeah.
[00:37:53]  I actually like that.
[00:37:54]  Yeah, he wrote a lot of it.
[00:37:55]  He would, he would, uh, I would like riff the character and then he'd go and he'd write 10 pages, which is absolute brilliance.
[00:38:03]  And he'd bring it back to me and I was like, oh my God.
[00:38:04]  And then I'd like, he'd write 10 more.
[00:38:06]  So he really helped that movie become what it is.
[00:38:10]  He was the genesis of it.
[00:38:11]  Yeah.
[00:38:12]  So Nick's my boy.
[00:38:13]  I love him.
[00:38:14]  Yeah.
[00:38:14]  Well, he's down here right now.
[00:38:16]  Is he really?
[00:38:16]  I think he's somewhere in Florida right now.
[00:38:18]  Well, then I got to get his house on this.
[00:38:20]  Yeah, you got to hit him up and get him out.
[00:38:21]  You got to hit him up.
[00:38:22]  Yeah.
[00:38:23]  Holy shit.
[00:38:23]  Yes.
[00:38:24]  Well, well, he doesn't know how to hit him up, but you do.
[00:38:26]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:38:28]  I'm sure he won't ask me if he gives me his number.
[00:38:31]  He is brilliant.
[00:38:32]  There's no doubt about it.
[00:38:33]  The best.
[00:38:34]  No doubt about it.
[00:38:35]  Like, one of the funniest people you'll ever meet.
[00:38:37]  Yeah.
[00:38:38]  Like, you'll just sit with him and you think you know him.
[00:38:42]  I've sat with him 50 times.
[00:38:44]  Every time I'll find something new and I'll just cry.
[00:38:47]  Like, he'll always just make you laugh.
[00:38:49]  Like, he's, I mean, I love him.
[00:38:52]  I used to fucking just love scrolling through his Twitter feed and listen to all the shit talk he would do.
[00:38:56]  He would talk so much shit.
[00:38:56]  He loves football.
[00:38:58]  Like, he talks so much shit about football.
[00:39:00]  It's so fucking funny.
[00:39:02]  Does he have a podcast?
[00:39:04]  I don't know.
[00:39:04]  I don't think so.
[00:39:05]  I'm sure.
[00:39:05]  You know?
[00:39:06]  No, I don't think he does.
[00:39:07]  I don't think he does.
[00:39:09]  You got to hit him up, bro.
[00:39:10]  He'd be perfect for this.
[00:39:11]  Yeah, it was always like him, like you, Nick, and Dirt Nasty were always kind of like Simon.
[00:39:19]  Simon, yeah.
[00:39:19]  You guys were always kind of like owned that niche.
[00:39:23]  You know what I mean?
[00:39:24]  That comedy acting niche, like comedy rapper slash actor.
[00:39:28]  Yeah.
[00:39:29]  kind of niche in LA.
[00:39:31]  Yeah, there's a few of us, you know what I mean, that have that kind of like that vibe of, I don't know.
[00:39:38]  Cut from the same mold.
[00:39:39]  Yeah, you know what I mean?
[00:39:40]  It's like hip hop, hip hop, hip hop, hip hop inspired comedy, you know, with a little bit of a twist, you know, but like Simon's also brilliant.
[00:39:53]  Like, hilarious.
[00:39:55]  His raps are dope.
[00:39:57]  You know what I mean?
[00:39:57]  It's funny because his raps are funny, but they're really dope.
[00:40:02]  Like, they got great beats and there's hooks and his style, like Dirt Nasty.
[00:40:06]  Like, as soon as he comes on, you know.
[00:40:08]  You know his it's him.
[00:40:10]  Yeah, he's got a signature sound and I think that you know sometimes I think it's probably a you know He's got a lot more music in him and I think he probably wants to make it That's another interesting thing you guys were talking about with Burt where you're just like you guys are like these comedic rappers But you guys are like on you're teetering on the edge of being like legitimate like successful hip-hop artists and comedians Well, it's seeing it's like yeah, it's my buddy Stu who's also Stu's a really good rapper.
[00:40:39]  So it's like he got these he got people right?
[00:40:42]  So it's like Kind of like for white dudes, the way in the hip hop was funny.
[00:40:50]  You know what I mean?
[00:40:51]  It's for people to take you serious.
[00:40:52]  Yeah, you know what I mean?
[00:40:54]  Say what you want, one of the best ever to do it, Eminem.
[00:41:00]  His first rhymes are so insanely amazing.
[00:41:03]  Sick.
[00:41:03]  But they're funny.
[00:41:06]  He's a sick lyricist, but there's a lot of comedy there.
[00:41:10]  Eminem is hilarious.
[00:41:14]  And.
[00:41:15]  He's also very deep, very dark, you know, like intense.
[00:41:21]  But his for foray into hip-hop was you know hi, my name is which is all like dope but sick, but hilarious, and I think that that's what.
[00:41:35]  That's what, like the Beastie BOYS initially were funny uh, me and Stew like my buddy Stew is a dope rapper.
[00:41:42]  Really good.
[00:41:42]  He was an actor.
[00:41:43]  He's been in a ton of stuff.
[00:41:44]  He was a care bear as a kid.
[00:41:46]  He was Johnny Darco, like he's been a lot of stuff and he just rapped on the side in Garage BAND and I like one day I heard him.
[00:41:53]  I'm like yo this, he raps so good about a porn star.
[00:41:58]  The porn star heard it and he started dating her.
[00:42:00]  Like that was like yeah, because they started dating him, because you love this, do you have a pencil?
[00:42:05]  He started rapping so much and so like his.
[00:42:09]  So I was a fan of his raps and i'm like yo, i'm gonna produce your rap.
[00:42:12]  So I gave him like 20 grand to like do his album and he did it but couldn't get it going.
[00:42:18]  You know, this was before like soundcloud And I'm like, yo, I'm doing this movie.
[00:42:23]  Like, you got to help me.
[00:42:24]  So he wrote my rhymes, but not really for Malibu.
[00:42:27]  But then he started writing all these other rhymes.
[00:42:29]  So I wanted to put out a comedy rap album called Crap.
[00:42:34]  No.
[00:42:34]  But, like, that's what comedy and rap.
[00:42:35]  But, like, before, like, The Lonely Island is also really funny.
[00:42:39]  But The Lonely Island is dope, too.
[00:42:41]  Like, they're good rappers.
[00:42:42]  So I think that that's what we do.
[00:42:46]  We go in with a funny way.
[00:42:48]  And then, but no one can accept it.
[00:42:50]  Now there's artists that can.
[00:42:53]  One minute they're acting the next minute they're cooking the next minute they're writing a book and they're like accepted But for a while people were in like they couldn't take you outside of your hole, you know your pigeonhole and so I think now it's easier to be a cross-platform artist,
[00:43:07]  but yeah like You could the key to it is a good beat Yeah, and then like keeping the shit hard, but for me you couldn't be hard right away had to be funny But if you listen to my album with Stu there's some bangers in there low-key hell yeah low-key low-key bangers, you know what I mean?
[00:43:24]  Mike, do you know what low key bangers are?
[00:43:26]  Do you know what a low key banger is, Mike?
[00:43:29]  No, I don't.
[00:43:32]  Low key on the high note.
[00:43:33]  Maybe you missed the part where I said I fit hearing aids.
[00:43:35]  No.
[00:43:37]  Low key on the high note means that it's like, yo, it's like, it's like, how can I say it?
[00:43:44]  Like, yo, this taco's low key fire.
[00:43:46]  So how would you say what that is?
[00:43:48]  Turn it off.
[00:43:50]  It fucking keeps vibrating.
[00:43:51]  Fuck, dude.
[00:43:51]  Marilyn Mance, low key means just like a lot of people don't know about it.
[00:43:55]  Like it's underrated and it's really fucking good.
[00:43:58]  It's like Taco Bus has got a low key fire chorizo taco.
[00:44:04]  You don't know about it.
[00:44:05]  It's like it's good.
[00:44:06]  But it's like on the menu low-key.
[00:44:08]  It's kind of hidden.
[00:44:09]  Right.
[00:44:09]  It's like not the main, not the most popular thing.
[00:44:12]  Okay.
[00:44:12]  But it's the mainstream.
[00:44:13]  It could be the best.
[00:44:14]  Yeah.
[00:44:14]  It's not mainstream.
[00:44:15]  Like a lot of Florida rappers came up, you know, like that.
[00:44:19]  Yeah, like that.
[00:44:20]  Like, have you ever heard of Rod Wave?
[00:44:25]  No.
[00:44:25]  Okay.
[00:44:26]  Never mind.
[00:44:27]  But that's all right.
[00:44:28]  He's like one of the top five Billboard hip-hop artists.
[00:44:33]  He's got like one of the top, he's been like top five Billboard for like the past year and a half to two years.
[00:44:37]  And he came, he literally was born and raised 10 minutes from here.
[00:44:41]  In like the ghetto of St. Pete.
[00:44:43]  Wow.
[00:44:43]  I swear to God, St. Pete has a ghetto.
[00:44:45]  Oh, dude.
[00:44:46]  It gets rough in St. Pete, downtown or like Southside St. Pete.
[00:44:49]  Not like stabbings and stuff.
[00:44:51]  Oh, yeah.
[00:44:52]  Stabbings and shootings every week, probably.
[00:44:55]  I mean, it's not as bad as like some other towns.
[00:44:58]  It's not as bad as Chicago, but it's still pretty bad.
[00:45:01]  Yo, like low key, like I'm trying to think like Chick fil A. Man, that's high key now.
[00:45:11]  I'm trying to think like food.
[00:45:15]  Anything like yo Popeyes like We had the Popeye chicken sandwich.
[00:45:20]  That's low-key fire.
[00:45:21]  It's medium key fire meaning kind of is bad and then it'll just go high key.
[00:45:26]  It's like yo, it's just high key.
[00:45:28]  Yeah, high key on the high note.
[00:45:30]  High key on the high note.
[00:45:32]  Yeah, yeah, that's where you sold out.
[00:45:33]  It's done.
[00:45:34]  Yeah, you're sold out.
[00:45:35]  You've already hit your court.
[00:45:35]  You already you've already like I'm not gonna lie like you come off stage ago that gig was low-key fire, right?
[00:45:42]  And you didn't expect it to be that good because it was like I played it.
[00:45:44]  Yeah, I played as like a tree house.
[00:45:46]  Yes, in LA.
[00:45:47]  I'm not kidding.
[00:45:48]  It's in a I was telling them we're playing all these places outside and some dude has got this dope setup.
[00:45:56]  He would love it.
[00:45:58]  With like tables and bushes, but like high up.
[00:46:01]  He built like straight up during the pandemic, built like tree houses.
[00:46:05]  Not crazy, extravagant, but dope.
[00:46:06]  So there's a table up there.
[00:46:08]  It's this dude's crib in Los Feliz, not far from me by Griffith Park.
[00:46:11]  Ever heard of Griffith Park?
[00:46:13]  And you have.
[00:46:14]  And so you go there and you'll do a show and there'll be like 60 people.
[00:46:18]  And there's like little booths and shit.
[00:46:20]  And it's.
[00:46:22]  Now it's high key fire, meaning it's like mainstream.
[00:46:24]  Yeah, because it's.
[00:46:25]  It's in the back of this dude's house and it was like one of the hottest clubs.
[00:46:28]  It's in the back of his house.
[00:46:30]  He built it in the back of his house.
[00:46:33]  That's sick.
[00:46:34]  You just park in the street.
[00:46:36]  You park in the street.
[00:46:39]  That's hilarious.
[00:46:40]  And it's high key fire, that's hilarious yeah, so it's like that's what people do.
[00:46:44]  The one of the greatest things about the pandemic is brought the entrepreneurs out.
[00:46:47]  So many cool interesting, inventive people did shows or zoom, you know.
[00:46:53]  Podcasts blew up, so There's always moves to be made.
[00:46:57]  Something's good or bad.
[00:46:59]  Always moves, right, Mike?
[00:47:00]  Like Churchill said, never let a problem go to waste.
[00:47:12]  Never let a.
[00:47:14]  Can you find the Churchill quote he's talking about?
[00:47:17]  Yeah, it's never let a crisis go to waste.
[00:47:19]  Is that what it is?
[00:47:21]  Never let a crisis go to waste?
[00:47:22]  I think it took me longer to say that than Churchill lived.
[00:47:25]  Yo, low key, I was waiting for somebody to actually mention that.
[00:47:32]  Never let a good place go to waste.
[00:47:34]  Speaking of low-key fire, bro, some of the best podcasts that I've done have been low-key fire.
[00:47:39]  Like the most fire podcasts, they're always low-key.
[00:47:42]  Yeah.
[00:47:43]  They're not like the most popular ones with the most views.
[00:47:46]  Yeah.
[00:47:47]  It's weird.
[00:47:47]  It's like the shit that pops off on YouTube more than anything else is not always the best stuff.
[00:47:53]  Like the best content that I've done has not always been the most popular.
[00:47:56]  I'm sure you feel that way with like movies and different shows that you've done or specials that you've done.
[00:48:01]  I did a movie called Bonnie Hutchins.
[00:48:06]  And it's on Amazon Prime.
[00:48:08]  And it was a little movie.
[00:48:10]  And I play a guy that's kind of like, you ever see the movie Falling Down?
[00:48:14]  He did, you didn't.
[00:48:15]  You should see it, but you might get it.
[00:48:18]  So it's basically kind of what's happening now.
[00:48:20]  It's like about a white middle-aged man who can't deal with society anymore.
[00:48:25]  It's like the original.
[00:48:27]  Just give it up, man.
[00:48:28]  Get off my lawn type of dude.
[00:48:30]  And it's Michael Douglas.
[00:48:31]  It's brilliant.
[00:48:32]  Yeah, it's great.
[00:48:32]  Brilliant movie.
[00:48:33]  He has glasses.
[00:48:34]  He looks totally different.
[00:48:34]  Really?
[00:48:35]  And it's basically just like a guy just having a bad day.
[00:48:39]  To progressively worse, and it's just like which turns into a bad week, yeah, a bad month.
[00:48:45]  So, I did like a low budget version of that called Buddy Hutchins, and it's just this guy he's at his wits' end and he ends up doing horrible things, but they're like you, they're uh justifiable throughout the plot.
[00:48:58]  And it was kind of over the top.
[00:49:00]  At one point, I have a chainsaw, it's a little crazy, but people have hit me up about it like, yo, Buddy Hutchins is low key fire, like so, but it played a niche.
[00:49:10]  You know, so that's what I'm saying.
[00:49:12]  Like things have niches.
[00:49:13]  So your podcast, people will have niches.
[00:49:15]  It's like when you go to a convention, I do a lot of horror convention signings and there's just people that are just straight up the dude who is the fifth death guy killed and Chucky will have such a line because people connect with that character.
[00:49:27]  So super specific things now.
[00:49:29]  That's why this all, this media is blowing up because people will just, like with the hearing aid, you know, and there's a lot of people out there that need a hearing aid.
[00:49:37]  They'll take that clip and they'll be like, oh, they'll look at it and they might be a lot of traffic.
[00:49:42]  To Mike, because of that.
[00:49:44]  So it's like, I think with just all of us being able to connect and argue.
[00:49:46]  I can't form sentences.
[00:49:48]  Well, that was the Churchill one.
[00:49:50]  That was the Churchill one.
[00:49:51]  That was the Churchill one.
[00:49:53]  It happens, Mike.
[00:49:54]  King of Maloba.
[00:49:54]  It happens to the best of us.
[00:49:58]  How many parts of Malibu's Most Wanted were kind of just ad lib, like off the cuff?
[00:50:06]  Improv?
[00:50:07]  Yeah.
[00:50:08]  Well, Nick would write, like, Nick had a really good scene.
[00:50:11]  We would write it, you know, and then.
[00:50:14]  It was pretty much I'm from the Kenan Ivory schools of like comedy so Kenan like will have like Your scene and then I'll have five other jokes so I didn't have that luxury, but I would get like three so I would say Oh,
[00:50:29]  you know, it was a good amount of it improvised Tay and Anthony are hilarious and as funny as the parts were written They made it way funnier by improvising they improvised so much so they were a huge improviser and all the rest of us had moments of it, But I was writing all the time so I would added another joke in.
[00:50:48]  I would say, try this joke, try this joke, try this joke.
[00:50:50]  So I tried a lot.
[00:50:51]  So that was kind of like improvisation, but there was definitely stuff at the end of the scene where I just add stuff for sure.
[00:50:57]  So, like I said with uh, Jim Carrey and his movies they they're they, they're told, never shut the cameras off, just keep them running.
[00:51:03]  Yeah, some of the funniest stuff is like a minute after the scene.
[00:51:06]  You know that's how you, why you hire somebody.
[00:51:09]  What was that?
[00:51:09]  Quote, Matthew Mcconachan.
[00:51:11]  Matthew Mcconachan said something where he's like, whatever his movie was interstellar, he was just like.
[00:51:16]  I forget when he said it or what it was, but it was some clip I saw on instagram where he's like when he does his scenes.
[00:51:21]  Come on, Danny.
[00:51:22]  Spit it out.
[00:51:22]  Come on.
[00:51:22]  I'm trying.
[00:51:23]  I'm trying.
[00:51:23]  I'm better than Churchill, at least.
[00:51:24]  He said when he does his scenes, when he practices them, he makes sure they're rolling because he's like, the first time he says it, he says it's always the best.
[00:51:34]  He says, anytime after that, it's always acting.
[00:51:36]  The first time he says it, it's always real.
[00:51:38]  Yeah.
[00:51:39]  Everybody's got their own process.
[00:51:40]  That's so true.
[00:51:41]  Yeah.
[00:51:42]  Have you seen his movie that he did with Harmony Corrine?
[00:51:46]  The movie that he did with Jonah Hill.
[00:51:50]  It's down in the Keys.
[00:51:51]  They filmed it.
[00:51:51]  It was basically 99% improv.
[00:51:54]  What was the movie?
[00:51:56]  Can you find out what the name of the latest Harmony Korean movie was?
[00:51:59]  It was called Beach Bomb.
[00:52:00]  Oh!
[00:52:00]  Beach Bomb.
[00:52:02]  Oh, I heard that's good.
[00:52:03]  Dude, it was so good.
[00:52:05]  It wasn't even like watching a movie.
[00:52:07]  Wow.
[00:52:07]  It was just like watching some dudes hang out for two hours.
[00:52:11]  Yeah.
[00:52:12]  No script.
[00:52:13]  It was just like he has Matthew McConaughey, Jonah Hill, and some other guy sitting there behind some $10 million mansion in the Keys and they're drinking and there's hookers.

=== Dealing With Bar Hecklers (10:48) ===

[00:52:22]  He's like, action, go ahead, just start talking.
[00:52:24]  And it was fucking amazing, bro.
[00:52:26]  Wow.
[00:52:27]  So, such a cool fucking movie.
[00:52:29]  Wow.
[00:52:29]  $10 million mansion, drinking and hookers.
[00:52:32]  Drinking and hookers.
[00:52:33]  I tell you, I met Matthew Mahani.
[00:52:36]  I met Matthew Mahani and talked to him.
[00:52:39]  And, you know, he is the most family oriented, honestly.
[00:52:44]  His kids, his wife.
[00:52:46]  That guy is just straight up, you know.
[00:52:51]  Yeah.
[00:52:52]  A solid guy.
[00:52:53]  Yeah, he is.
[00:52:54]  Solid guy.
[00:52:55]  Yeah, super solid.
[00:52:57]  I wanted to ask you, I want to respect your time.
[00:52:59]  Oh, yeah, I got another pod, if you can believe that.
[00:53:00]  Do you really?
[00:53:01]  Yeah.
[00:53:02]  Can we talk a little bit about.
[00:53:03]  The heckler.
[00:53:04]  Yeah, go for it.
[00:53:05]  You wrote your notes out.
[00:53:06]  Did you even get to your notes?
[00:53:07]  No, I didn't even get to my notes.
[00:53:08]  I didn't even talk to you about heckler.
[00:53:10]  I never do notes.
[00:53:11]  Oh, the stuttering fuck to my right wall.
[00:53:12]  What?
[00:53:14]  I said the stuttering fuck to my right wall.
[00:53:18]  You're not a stutterer.
[00:53:19]  You just have what we call Biden brain.
[00:53:21]  Oh, no.
[00:53:21]  Now that hurts, man.
[00:53:24]  Oh, my God.
[00:53:24]  Now that hurts.
[00:53:25]  Oh, my God.
[00:53:27]  Now that hurts.
[00:53:28]  No, I'm serious.
[00:53:29]  Hey, man.
[00:53:29]  I'm serious.
[00:53:30]  I'm serious.
[00:53:32]  Hey Mike, come on, man.
[00:53:36]  Mike's doing a Biden meeting.
[00:53:38]  I love that.
[00:53:40]  Hey, listen, we're on track.
[00:53:42]  We're going to do over 300 COVID shots this month.
[00:53:46]  300.
[00:53:48]  I know.
[00:53:48]  Oh, wait, wait.
[00:53:50]  I do a whole joke about it.
[00:53:52]  Do you?
[00:53:52]  Yeah.
[00:53:53]  Are you performing tonight?
[00:53:54]  Yeah.
[00:53:55]  Are you?
[00:53:55]  Where?
[00:53:55]  Side splitters.
[00:53:56]  Yeah, side splitters.
[00:53:57]  We should go watch them.
[00:53:58]  We should.
[00:53:58]  Let's do it.
[00:53:59]  Come do it.
[00:53:59]  Let's do it.
[00:54:00]  We're going to come.
[00:54:01]  Absolutely.
[00:54:02]  We're going to come hang out.
[00:54:02]  And you sell merch after the show?
[00:54:04]  I do.
[00:54:05]  Fuck yeah.
[00:54:06]  8 30, 10 30.
[00:54:07]  Probably the 8 30 show is going to be packed.
[00:54:09]  That's the one you want to go to.
[00:54:10]  Yeah, but we've got you, so it doesn't matter.
[00:54:12]  Some people just don't get that table up there.
[00:54:14]  After this podcast is over, he's going to delete my number and he's going to forget we even exist.
[00:54:17]  We're just going to show up and hope for the best.
[00:54:20]  No, but Biden, they say he's got a stutter, which is unfortunate.
[00:54:25]  But it's like at some point, when is he not stuttering?
[00:54:27]  And is it more of like.
[00:54:29]  I said it's not a speech impediment.
[00:54:31]  It's a brain impairment.
[00:54:32]  Look, you can watch old video of him because he's been in politics his whole life.
[00:54:35]  He doesn't have a stutter.
[00:54:37]  Yeah, people get real.
[00:54:39]  He's upset about that.
[00:54:40]  Did you know hearing loss is the leading cause of cognitive decline?
[00:54:43]  Is that true?
[00:54:44]  It is true.
[00:54:45]  Wow.
[00:54:45]  All right.
[00:54:46]  One of the leading causes.
[00:54:47]  We're going to another commercial.
[00:54:49]  Yeah.
[00:54:50]  Let's not talk about it.
[00:54:53]  But what inspired Heckler?
[00:54:55]  How did that start?
[00:54:55]  How did Heckler come about?
[00:54:59]  That's the name of it, right there.
[00:55:00]  Yeah.
[00:55:00]  Heckler is all about just really happening with like online, you know, just I started.
[00:55:06]  Online hecklers.
[00:55:07]  I started becoming a name and then I started seeing all the comments and I was like, what the fuck is this?
[00:55:15]  We never had that.
[00:55:15]  You go to a movie and then the movie would be done.
[00:55:19]  You couldn't go write the actor in the movie and go, the guy who played the postman sucked dick.
[00:55:26]  You're under such scrutiny now from everybody.
[00:55:28]  Go into his DM and be like, you suck dick, sir.
[00:55:33]  You suck as a postman.
[00:55:34]  You're like, what the fuck?
[00:55:35]  That never happened, bro.
[00:55:36]  I don't know what you know in terms of life of your generation.
[00:55:39]  That was just.
[00:55:40]  You went and saw something, it was done right, and then if we reviewed the movie, you don't see people on the side of the road that are like calling you a piece of yeah, it was like reviewed in a, in a paper, in a respectful way, and so heckler was kind of like my comment on society, of how it changed, how everything became heckling.
[00:55:59]  So that's what we live in now.
[00:56:00]  We live in a troll society.
[00:56:01]  It was way before all the that's happening now.
[00:56:03]  But like reviewers used to review a movie, they review you.
[00:56:07]  Now they review your career, your face, your body.
[00:56:11]  Uh, comedy club hecklers were considered the worst.
[00:56:14]  They're not now the bravest because they're there.
[00:56:16]  You can put if they.
[00:56:17]  They're cool.
[00:56:19]  Online is the worst because they hide yeah, they hide behind a meme or something and it's like in their parents basement, yeah.
[00:56:25]  So a whole thing is exploration of like accountability, like who are these people?
[00:56:31]  And then so I got all these like crazy ass comments and so I went and explored them and I just like I went and literally did the thing where you consider the source And I found out what the source was.
[00:56:45]  And then people would look, I'm funnier than you.
[00:56:47]  So then I put them on stage.
[00:56:48]  Google.
[00:56:49]  They would bomb.
[00:56:50]  Facebook.
[00:56:51]  And so that was, you know, that's what the whole movie was about.
[00:56:54]  It was about exploring who these people are and why is our society like that.
[00:56:59]  What do you think the main difference is between internet hecklers and commenters?
[00:57:02]  Because 90% of my comments are fucking people that want me to dead.
[00:57:05]  What is the difference between those kind of people and people who are in a live comedy?
[00:57:09]  It's easy to be 10 foot tall and bulletproof behind a keyboard in your bedroom.
[00:57:12]  Yeah, for sure.
[00:57:14]  Yeah, I think.
[00:57:16]  I think some of those guys are just swiping.
[00:57:21]  They're just like, don't think anything of it.
[00:57:23]  They see you and they're like, look at this fucking surfing Poindexter or whatever.
[00:57:27]  I don't know.
[00:57:28]  I'm just making up stupid shit.
[00:57:29]  Yeah, putting it on point.
[00:57:31]  Yeah, but it's like, so they'll just say shit and they don't think of it.
[00:57:35]  You know, they got a big gulp in, the caffeine's running.
[00:57:37]  Some of it's just harmless.
[00:57:39]  Some of it is like, you really piss them off because maybe you're living the life they want or something and they're insecure.
[00:57:47]  And some of it is just actual trolling of like, I'm gonna, there's an art to that too.
[00:57:53]  So it's different.
[00:57:54]  There's like three or four levels to it.
[00:57:55]  But, you know, I think we should have something on social media where no one can comment without accountability.
[00:58:02]  So you have to see who the person is.
[00:58:05]  You want to censor the comments?
[00:58:06]  No, I don't want to censor them.
[00:58:08]  I think all comments, I want to know exactly who they are.
[00:58:11]  I want to know exactly where they are.
[00:58:13]  No anonymity anymore.
[00:58:16]  No anonymity.
[00:58:17]  I got you, man.
[00:58:19]  Winston.
[00:58:22]  And it was just like if you write it sign your name.
[00:58:25]  Yeah, because you would just see a lot different happening and then you could like like people say so much shit to me and then they have private accounts It's like yeah to somebody in a bar you get your ass kicked you pussy.
[00:58:38]  Yeah, like there's such can dish it out, but can't take it No, yeah, they can't even they won't allow you to comment and I'll leave the comment there and then at some point I just won't even comment I'll just let my Community is pretty good about policing that stuff.
[00:58:53]  Of like, really?
[00:58:55]  But it's just, it's all good.
[00:58:58]  I'm not beyond reproach.
[00:59:00]  We all should be, you know, have looked upon as, you know, can be criticized, but it's like, yo, let's have a discussion.
[00:59:07]  Don't do a drive-by and gum me down and then hide behind your fucking private wall.
[00:59:12]  Bitch move.
[00:59:13]  It is.
[00:59:14]  It is a bitch move.
[00:59:15]  The people that do it in the shows, they are way braver.
[00:59:19]  Way braver.
[00:59:20]  That's the whole.
[00:59:22]  That's the ironicness of it.
[00:59:25]  I don't know.
[00:59:26]  Most cyclers are harmless.
[00:59:28]  They're just having a good time.
[00:59:29]  They're laughing.
[00:59:29]  They're loud.
[00:59:30]  They don't understand.
[00:59:31]  You say something.
[00:59:32]  They believe you so much.
[00:59:34]  They're part of the show.
[00:59:35]  They don't understand.
[00:59:36]  They're the men, though, right?
[00:59:37]  Yeah, mostly.
[00:59:38]  You know, white women in their mid 40s.
[00:59:40]  We call them the triple dubs, the white wine warriors.
[00:59:43]  White wine warriors.
[00:59:44]  Yeah, they get a box of Franzia.
[00:59:47]  Oh, wow.
[00:59:48]  Karen's and Sharon's.
[00:59:49]  That's the scariest gang.
[00:59:50]  But what I'm saying is they get this, they're brave because they're there.
[00:59:54]  I can see their face.
[00:59:56]  That's what's brave.
[00:59:57]  And those used to be not the brave.
[00:59:59]  That's what I'm saying.
[01:00:00]  I respect them more than any of them.
[01:00:02]  If someone threw a tomato at me, I wouldn't really enjoy it.
[01:00:05]  At least it's soft.
[01:00:06]  But I would respect them more than somebody leaving a comment.
[01:00:09]  Right.
[01:00:10]  That's hilarious.
[01:00:11]  Unless somebody's leaving a comment in another country, I couldn't take a vote to say it to my face.
[01:00:14]  Does it affect how you handle hecklers?
[01:00:16]  Because, I mean, historically, comedians, if you, you know, the last thing you want to do is be a heckler because the comedian would rip you apart.
[01:00:24]  What do you mean, does it affect?
[01:00:26]  Well, now somebody heckles, and if, you know, you do what stand up comedians do, which is just, you know, make a joke of them, embarrass them, well, the other one's right back on their, you know, putting stuff out there.
[01:00:38]  I mean, yeah, you deal with them in the moment, and you, you know, comedians usually win.
[01:00:42]  I mean, sometimes hecklers win, there's no doubt, but.
[01:00:44]  Yeah, I mean, they'll definitely.
[01:00:46]  Some people will take their licks and other people will go on a board.
[01:00:49]  Yeah, but if you're funny, if you got.
[01:00:51]  If you're funny, the crowd sees it.
[01:00:52]  If you destroyed them in a good way and you really did a good job, I think everybody can survive.
[01:00:57]  Yeah, but it doesn't stop them from going the next morning or that night while they're still whatever the W's from Brighton Wine Warrior.
[01:01:08]  White Wine Warrior.
[01:01:09]  White Wine Warrior.
[01:01:10]  I fucking love that.
[01:01:10]  Mike's giving me Biden brain now.
[01:01:13]  Winston.
[01:01:15]  Winst, Hey, hey, hey.
[01:01:21]  That's awesome.
[01:01:22]  That's fucking great, dude.
[01:01:24]  Appreciate you, man.
[01:01:25]  Thank you.
[01:01:26]  I would love to hang, but I got a product.
[01:01:28]  Tell my listeners, promote your product.
[01:01:30]  My product is hand sanitizer, man.
[01:01:32]  Shut up.
[01:01:33]  You're helping the world, but I'm helping the world jizz it off.
[01:01:35]  It's called Jiz Off.
[01:01:37]  You can go on jizoffproducts.com.
[01:01:39]  What is this?
[01:01:39]  It's basically just hand sanitizer, but it's like, you know, the world is covered in germs, but another term for it is jizz.
[01:01:46]  It doesn't have to be that word.
[01:01:48]  It's just like, yo, everything's got schmutz on it.
[01:01:50]  It's nice.
[01:01:50]  It's soft.
[01:01:51]  And it's five bucks.
[01:01:52]  Go to jizoffproducts.com.
[01:01:54]  Jizoffproducts.
[01:01:55]  I can get from you?
[01:01:56]  Yeah, take this.
[01:01:57]  Is that one?
[01:01:58]  My daughter, when I tell her jeez, scoff.
[01:02:00]  When I what was that?
[01:02:02]  You're going to give it to your daughter.
[01:02:05]  No, no, no.
[01:02:06]  She's 28 now.
[01:02:07]  Oh, okay.
[01:02:07]  All right.
[01:02:08]  But she and I watched Mallory was Most Wanted so many times.
[01:02:11]  So say it.
[01:02:12]  It's B-Rads.
[01:02:13]  It's B-Rads.
[01:02:14]  Sanitizizizers.
[01:02:15]  I tell her B-Rads.
[01:02:16]  Yo, B-Rads.
[01:02:16]  But then you've got to promote the shit, Mike.
[01:02:18]  When you're in Honduras, fit people for earring aids.
[01:02:22]  Like, yo, what's up?
[01:02:23]  Jizz it off.
[01:02:23]  I'll promote it.
[01:02:24]  Say, like, what's up?
[01:02:25]  I'll promote it.
[01:02:26]  Jizz that shit off.
[01:02:28]  Niggas walk into the bus.
[01:02:30]  Throw a little bit at her.
[01:02:32]  What are you guys doing together, by the way?
[01:02:35]  We meet up all the time.
[01:02:36]  What are you guys?
[01:02:37]  He's your client?
[01:02:38]  He's my friend and my client.
[01:02:40]  I do his advertising for his business.
[01:02:42]  Oh, okay.
[01:02:42]  You're a marketer.
[01:02:43]  I do his advertising.
[01:02:44]  You're a marketer.
[01:02:46]  Making the commercial.
[01:02:48]  Where do people find your podcast?
[01:02:49]  Go to my podcast.
[01:02:50]  You can just go to my website.
[01:02:51]  Has everything.
[01:02:52]  JamieKennedy.com that has my Instagram, my Twitter, my Facebook, and that's my hub.
[01:02:58]  You'll see Patreon, all that stuff.
[01:03:00]  Go to JamieKennedy.com for more of me.
[01:03:05]  Thank you.
[01:03:06]  I love you, Jamie.
[01:03:06]  Appreciate you.
[01:03:07]  Love you.
[01:03:08]  Awesome to meet you.
[01:03:08]  Pleasure to meet you, Mike.
[01:03:09]  We're only messing with you.