Danny Jones Podcast - #29 - The Real Life 'Breaking Bad' Case | Matthew Cox
Aired: 2019-12-26
Duration: 02:38:46


=== The Devil Exposed Log Line (02:31) ===

[00:00:07]  Let's start it you ready ready Here we go Matt Cox number four the fourth installment of the Matt Cox series These tales are fucking riveting man.
[00:00:19]  These tales are just you like my stickers.
[00:00:22]  Yeah, you can have you can have that whole stack if you want Yeah, I'll put one on we put them up everywhere.
[00:00:27]  I mean if I had a Ferrari I wouldn't put it on yeah, yeah, let's stick one on the halfway house All of your stories are just so mind-blowing I just finished a couple hours ago, Devil Exposed, which is the story we're going to talk about today on today's podcast.
[00:00:45]  But the crazy thing about all your stories is that they are all worthy of having screenplays.
[00:00:53]  They're all worthy of being feature films, which is insane.
[00:00:57]  Yeah.
[00:00:57]  It's like you're turning over these stones.
[00:00:59]  I mean, they're not stories that are making headlines.
[00:01:02]  No one's looking for this kind of stuff.
[00:01:04]  You were just there.
[00:01:05]  And the fact that by chance you met Rossini, the main guy who tells the story.
[00:01:11]  Right.
[00:01:11]  Yeah, I was actually pretty incredible.
[00:01:13]  So how did the guy Rossini, how did you meet this guy and how did he introduce this whole story to you?
[00:01:19]  He does legal work and he works with Frank Amadeo.
[00:01:23]  Oh, really?
[00:01:24]  Yeah, he bounces that like they bounce ideas off of each other.
[00:01:29]  Really, Rossini would say I bounce ideas off of Frank because he's like, because he's so smart.
[00:01:35]  And Rossini's, he doesn't really talk to almost anybody.
[00:01:38]  I don't think he talked to anybody for months except for Frank.
[00:01:41]  He's got, A touch, and even he'll admit this.
[00:01:44]  He's got it.
[00:01:44]  He goes, I have a little bit of an Asperger's syndrome.
[00:01:47]  Okay.
[00:01:47]  Just a touch, you know, it's, it's, he's a socially little awkward.
[00:01:52]  Matter of fact, you know what I ought to do?
[00:01:54]  I have a clip of him at a wedding.
[00:01:56]  It's like a, where he gives a toast.
[00:01:58]  Oh, really?
[00:01:59]  Yeah.
[00:01:59]  I think he's probably pretty shit faced, but he does give a toast, but you can actually see like a 25 year old, you know, Rossini.
[00:02:08]  Yeah.
[00:02:09]  Okay.
[00:02:12]  Where can you see that clip?
[00:02:13]  You have it like saved somewhere?
[00:02:16]  Yeah, I have it on my computer.
[00:02:18]  I can send it to you.
[00:02:18]  Yeah, send it.
[00:02:20]  My assistant can send it to you.
[00:02:21]  Before we get too far into how you met him, can you give me the basic log line of the story Devil Exposed that Rossini told you?
[00:02:30]  Or the story about Rossini, which is called Devil Exposed, which is the book that you wrote.
[00:02:34]  Right.
[00:02:35]  Right.
[00:02:35]  So what is the basic synopsis or log line of that story?

=== Rossini Framed by Mueller (02:27) ===

[00:02:38]  It's, you know, he's an admitted.
[00:02:45]  Drug dealer, or he really is a manufacturer of drug or drug trafficker.
[00:02:49]  So he manufactures drugs.
[00:02:51]  Super smart guy.
[00:02:52]  Anyway, so he's a, let's say he's a drug trafficker, and he gets roped into a conspiracy that he was not involved in.
[00:03:04]  He gets set up by essentially the FBI and an FBI informant, and he ends up.
[00:03:17]  He basically gets railroaded.
[00:03:19]  He ends up in federal prison.
[00:03:20]  And the person that he got framed for a murder, right?
[00:03:24]  Right, right.
[00:03:25]  Yeah.
[00:03:25]  He got framed for a murder that he didn't commit in order to save the asses of a couple FBI agents that were dirty.
[00:03:35]  Right.
[00:03:35]  Okay.
[00:03:36]  And Mueller was a U.S. attorney at that time in San Francisco.
[00:03:42]  And he, you know, like I said, he didn't start the conspiracy.
[00:03:47]  He came in part way and discovered it was a conspiracy.
[00:03:51]  But instead of untangling it and saying, you know, unraveling the whole thing and saying, whoa, whoa, this isn't right.
[00:03:57]  We got to go after these guys and these guys.
[00:04:00]  Instead, he just furthered the conspiracy and basically let these guys go into, you know, let these guys rot in prison.
[00:04:08]  Mueller did that.
[00:04:09]  Yeah.
[00:04:10]  Now keep in mind, two of the guys definitely murdered.
[00:04:13]  And we're talking about like the Robert Mueller, the guy that's all over CNN, the Mueller report guy.
[00:04:18]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:04:18]  The guy, special counsel investigating Trump.
[00:04:22]  But, you know, and this is the thing I think I mentioned to you before.
[00:04:25]  It's like, you know, this is what's so fucked up it's like it would be an amazing story, it'd be a better story.
[00:04:33]  If Mueller had nothing to do with it.
[00:04:34]  Because what happens is Mueller ends up overshadowing everything, becomes Mueller, Mueller, Mueller.
[00:04:40]  Well, if his name was John Doe, you'd be like, oh man, this guy got framed.
[00:04:45]  Instead, everybody that reads it focuses in on Mueller.
[00:04:48]  And that's really bullshit.
[00:04:49]  He's kind of like a selling piece to the story.
[00:04:50]  Right, right.
[00:04:51]  Well, and what happens is people become polarized when politics are involved.
[00:04:55]  But to me, it's not about politics.
[00:04:57]  I don't have a problem with Mueller.
[00:04:58]  I don't care that it's Mueller.
[00:04:59]  I could give a shit.
[00:05:00]  What I care about is that a U.S. attorney helped further a conspiracy.

=== Working on the Donovan Story (09:21) ===

[00:05:06]  Did not cut this guy loose and has continued to conspire to keep this guy, keep Rossini in prison.
[00:05:15]  And, you know, this, listen, the two guys that committed the murders, bro, they had Thanksgiving with their family.
[00:05:23]  Yeah.
[00:05:25]  Pete's eaten a holiday meal in the fucking chow hall, bro.
[00:05:29]  He didn't kill it.
[00:05:30]  He got 40 years.
[00:05:31]  Pete meaning Rossini.
[00:05:32]  Rossini, sorry.
[00:05:33]  Pete, Rossini.
[00:05:34]  Pete, a.k.a. he refers to him as Pete, but we're talking about Rossini in the story.
[00:05:37]  Right, right.
[00:05:37]  I'll try and stick with Rossini.
[00:05:38]  Okay.
[00:05:39]  Correct me.
[00:05:39]  I just want to try to keep it.
[00:05:41]  Very consistent.
[00:05:42]  It's very, the story is like convoluted with names and it's hard to follow with all the names.
[00:05:46]  Well, and that's why I'm thinking we just, here's what I'm thinking.
[00:05:49]  Because, you know, there's some stuff, and I don't know if you noticed this.
[00:05:53]  And you made it clear about why it's so confusing because Rossini, the way he told you it, he wanted to focus, he wanted to put a lot of focus on all the little details because they meant so much to him.
[00:06:04]  Right, because he's been locked up over 20 years.
[00:06:07]  It's his life.
[00:06:07]  It's his whole life.
[00:06:08]  So you're fighting your case for 20 years, every single thing is.
[00:06:13]  Is massive in your mind and you have to think your world in prison is very small.
[00:06:17]  So to me you hear something you're like hey, i'm not going to mention that, it's no big deal.
[00:06:21]  He's like no no, so super important, because so-and-so did such and such and that's why so-and-so.
[00:06:24]  And then they, when I got arrested, they said that I did this and I didn't, that wasn't even my fault, that wasn't even my stuff.
[00:06:30]  Right, you're like Jesus God Almighty bro right, there's a lot of little details.
[00:06:33]  There's all these little details that what happens is he doesn't realize, because I told you he has a.
[00:06:36]  He has a, he's a touch of Asperger syndrome, super smart, like makes me feel like i'm drooling.
[00:06:42]  I mean he really, he's just brilliant.
[00:06:45]  You can say I can ask anything, you know, and say, yeah, I wonder what, you know, you don't have internet.
[00:06:53]  I don't pick, I can't pick up and say, hey, Siri, when did this happen?
[00:06:56]  I'll say something and he'll say, Siri, did you activate Siri?
[00:07:00]  Oh my God.
[00:07:01]  That's funny.
[00:07:02]  Okay.
[00:07:03]  The feds are listening to that right now.
[00:07:05]  They're listening live.
[00:07:07]  But he immediately, he'll know it.
[00:07:09]  He'll go, he'll say the date.
[00:07:11]  Oh yeah, that happened.
[00:07:12]  And that was 1982.
[00:07:13]  Oh, shit.
[00:07:14]  That was October 19th.
[00:07:15]  I'm not sure if it was the 14th or 15th.
[00:07:17]  And you're like, the, do you know that?
[00:07:19]  And he goes.
[00:07:19]  Well, because it was, it was so-and-so's birthday and and on, on her birthday, we went to go see this this uh, you know this whatever concert, and I remember it was two days later and that happened, so it had to be the 15th.
[00:07:30]  Yeah no, you know, it was definitely the 15th.
[00:07:31]  You're like the he's like a fucking rain man timeline and it's and it's bizarre, it really is bizarre and I could, what was?
[00:07:39]  But what was great about it was I could turn around.
[00:07:41]  I'd go, hey Pete, when did this happen?
[00:07:43]  Oh, that was, that was uh, that was october 13th.
[00:07:45]  Uh yeah, I remember because and he and he'll tell you why he remembers And as he gets to know you, he loosens up a little bit.
[00:07:54]  Funny guy.
[00:07:55]  We would laugh all the time.
[00:07:56]  Works with Frank Amadeo.
[00:07:58]  They both do legal work.
[00:08:00]  And of course, you know, he's done a good portion of his own legal work.
[00:08:05]  Yeah.
[00:08:05]  Listen, this guy's been sentenced.
[00:08:08]  What, three, four times?
[00:08:10]  Was it four times?
[00:08:11]  He's been sentenced.
[00:08:11]  No.
[00:08:12]  I thought it was two 20 year sentences.
[00:08:15]  No, no.
[00:08:16]  But that was at the same time.
[00:08:17]  I'm saying he then appealed it.
[00:08:18]  Oh, yeah.
[00:08:19]  Got a portion knocked off, then appealed it, got a portion knocked off, then appealed it, got a portion knocked off.
[00:08:23]  So he's been sentenced.
[00:08:24]  Let's see.
[00:08:26]  One, two, three, four.
[00:08:27]  Four times, right?
[00:08:28]  Four times.
[00:08:29]  Yeah.
[00:08:29]  Who the fuck is who wins three appeals?
[00:08:31]  That's crazy.
[00:08:32]  You got to have something wrong with your case to win.
[00:08:34]  You can't win one appeal.
[00:08:36]  Yeah.
[00:08:36]  You know how many 2255s are that's a habeas action where you say that your lawyer is ineffective?
[00:08:42]  Man, there's something like 3,500 of them that are filed for every one that is actually approved.
[00:08:49]  I'm sure the appeal ratio is way lower.
[00:08:53]  Right.
[00:08:53]  Wow.
[00:08:54]  So he, I mean, he's, there's, listen, when you see this, oh, you know what's so funny?
[00:09:00]  Remember, so you just got done reading it.
[00:09:02]  Remember when the guy, after Mueller, Gives him that, gives Pete the ironclad agreement that he's gonna, his sentence will be reduced.
[00:09:10]  Yeah.
[00:09:11]  And then the new U.S. Attorney says, Your Honor, there's no agreement.
[00:09:16]  We've never, we have never promised this man anything.
[00:09:19]  So Racine is like, What the hell?
[00:09:20]  I have a copy of it right here.
[00:09:21]  Yeah, I have a copy right here.
[00:09:23]  And he sends it in so that you have a copy of it.
[00:09:24]  So I got a copy.
[00:09:25]  No.
[00:09:26]  I printed out because it's 740 pages, right?
[00:09:29]  I printed, man.
[00:09:30]  Do you have the agreement that him and Robert Mueller signed?
[00:09:33]  Yeah, it's got, I mean, it's, I got to get, Right, right, right.
[00:09:35]  We'll get to that.
[00:09:36]  We'll get to it.
[00:09:37]  Yeah.
[00:09:37]  That's crazy.
[00:09:39]  Where do you print all this stuff?
[00:09:41]  Right there.
[00:09:41]  I wrote down right here.
[00:09:43]  See, I tagged some of the important ones because you cut me an hour short.
[00:09:47]  So I got all, I'm all frazzled and shit.
[00:09:49]  So I was going to have everything tagged.
[00:09:50]  I was all excited.
[00:09:51]  Fuck me up.
[00:09:52]  So, yeah, promise.
[00:09:54]  This is a promise in this letter confirming agreement between you and the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Northern District of California.
[00:10:03]  And this is the actual promise where they actually say, it's these two paragraphs right here, where they say, right after you.
[00:10:09]  Cooperate, we will cut your or we will reduce your sentence.
[00:10:13]  They never say that, never.
[00:10:14]  I've never.
[00:10:14]  This is the only one i've ever seen, and if you told me about it, if I hadn't seen it, I wouldn't even believe it.
[00:10:19]  Wow, because i'd be like, they don't do it yeah, period.
[00:10:21]  They just don't do it no, just doesn't happen, and so so let's start back okay, from the beginning.
[00:10:26]  So you meet Rossini in prison, right?
[00:10:28]  How do you approach him?
[00:10:29]  Does he approach you?
[00:10:30]  How does this whole?
[00:10:31]  Well, Frank was working on my case okay, and I kept sitting at the table.
[00:10:35]  I was working on another guy's story named um uh, Donovan Davis, And Domus has a really good story too.
[00:10:42]  It's about a con man.
[00:10:43]  What's so funny about his story is that the whole story isn't Donovan's the mark.
[00:10:48]  He just happened to end up in prison.
[00:10:49]  The con man is this guy, Blaine.
[00:10:53]  And so I love Blaine.
[00:10:54]  I'm like, Blaine's a, he did what?
[00:10:56]  Oh, that's great.
[00:10:56]  And he's just like, you know, I hate this fucker, right?
[00:10:58]  You know, he ruined my life.
[00:10:59]  I'm like, yeah, but he's pretty cool.
[00:11:00]  I should read this one.
[00:11:01]  And he's like, and I would, and he was always like, you know, you fucking remind me of him, right?
[00:11:06]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:11:06]  I know, I'm sorry about that, Domus.
[00:11:07]  So what happened with, you know, he just, Anyway, but Pete and Frank are working on Donovan's stuff.
[00:11:15]  Okay.
[00:11:16]  And I kept coming around, and eventually Pete started talking to me.
[00:11:20]  And then, you know, we would talk a little here and a little there.
[00:11:24]  And then one day Donovan said, you know, have you talked to Pete about his case?
[00:11:28]  And I went, you mean Frank?
[00:11:30]  No, no, Donovan.
[00:11:30]  Oh, Donovan.
[00:11:31]  Okay.
[00:11:31]  Because I was all working on Donovan's story.
[00:11:33]  You were working on Donovan's story.
[00:11:34]  I was working on Donovan's story.
[00:11:35]  Frank and Pete were working on his legal case.
[00:11:38]  Okay.
[00:11:38]  And so Donovan one day said, you ought to talk to Pete about his story.
[00:11:42]  Because I was wrapping up Donovan's story and I was finishing it up.
[00:11:45]  And it's on the website.
[00:11:47]  It's called The Gap.
[00:11:48]  The Gap.
[00:11:48]  Okay.
[00:11:48]  Yeah.
[00:11:49]  So I said, Oh, yeah.
[00:11:52]  And he goes, Yeah, you ought to talk to him.
[00:11:53]  So I mentioned it.
[00:11:54]  And, hey, Pete, you know, Donovan said you have a really interesting story.
[00:11:58]  And he said Donovan was the one who kept saying, yeah, yeah, his U.S. attorney ended up being FBI director.
[00:12:06]  He's like one of the longest running FBI directors.
[00:12:08]  I was like, okay.
[00:12:08]  And he was like Robert Mueller.
[00:12:09]  Okay.
[00:12:11]  Mueller, to me, was nobody.
[00:12:12]  He's nobody then.
[00:12:12]  What year was this?
[00:12:13]  About two, three years ago.
[00:12:15]  Okay.
[00:12:16]  Yeah, I mean, I would know the, what does it say?
[00:12:19]  17, 2017, maybe.
[00:12:25]  Hold on.
[00:12:25]  Boom.
[00:12:25]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:12:26]  October 17.
[00:12:27]  October 2017.
[00:12:29]  Okay.
[00:12:31]  So we started talking.
[00:12:32]  We walked around the compound a few times.
[00:12:33]  He told me some stuff.
[00:12:34]  It did sound, you know what?
[00:12:35]  It sounded very Breaking Bad.
[00:12:38]  Oh, yeah.
[00:12:38]  It's straight Breaking Bad.
[00:12:40]  These guys are cooking crystal meth.
[00:12:41]  In Hollywood.
[00:12:42]  In Hollywood.
[00:12:43]  Beverly Hills and penthouse suites and shit.
[00:12:46]  Not only that, but they hired a chemistry professor to cook all the crystal meth.
[00:12:51]  Right.
[00:12:51]  That's the guy that teaches Rossini how to do it.
[00:12:55]  Right.
[00:12:56]  They go to, is it?
[00:12:57]  It's not UCLA.
[00:12:58]  Well, no, they do go to UCLA.
[00:13:00]  But that's not where he's from, though.
[00:13:01]  He wasn't the professor there, but that's where they go to use the chemistry.
[00:13:04]  There's no internet.
[00:13:05]  So they're going there and studying and they're refining.
[00:13:08]  And they would break it down so that they didn't get any of the controlled substance, controlled whatever products.
[00:13:17]  So they're breaking it down to the essentials and building everything up and coming.
[00:13:21]  It's amazing.
[00:13:22]  What he was doing is amazing.
[00:13:23]  I mean, listen, I'll bet you Pete's got 160 IQ at least.
[00:13:27]  I mean, the guy's just brilliant.
[00:13:29]  Couldn't tell you how much a car cost.
[00:13:31]  He's like, he's Rain Man.
[00:13:32]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:13:33]  He's just, but he's brilliant.
[00:13:36]  So, what happens is we start talking, we start walking around the compound.
[00:13:42]  And so I finish up Donovan's story, and then I was doing somebody else's story.
[00:13:46]  And I basically heard, he told me his whole story.
[00:13:48]  I was like, man, that's really good.
[00:13:50]  You know, he kept focusing on his case.
[00:13:51]  I was like, yeah, okay, but, you know, basically, I understand the dirty agents.
[00:13:55]  And when he starts talking about dirty FBI agents, and I was like, You know, it's like, okay, bro, let's be reasonable here.
[00:14:02]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:14:03]  Can you prove that?
[00:14:03]  He's like, yeah, I can prove it.
[00:14:06]  He has like 24, 25 bankers' boxes filled with stuff.
[00:14:10]  They've got a whole room with it stacked in there.
[00:14:12]  Listen, the staff hate his guts.
[00:14:14]  I mean, they're like, you got a whole fucking room with all your boxes, but he's got a court order that says you can't throw it away.
[00:14:20]  So he's like, yeah, I can prove it.
[00:14:25]  And he's like, I can prove it.
[00:14:25]  He said, look, the agents retired.

=== Pete Takes Over Manufacturing (05:19) ===

[00:14:28]  This happened.
[00:14:29]  They admit this.
[00:14:29]  They admit that.
[00:14:31]  Anyway, I'm like, okay, so I was skeptical.
[00:14:33]  But then as you get to know him, you realize that, you know, he doesn't, he's not, he's not a liar.
[00:14:38]  Yeah.
[00:14:38]  He's not an exaggerator.
[00:14:39]  He's not, he's not that guy.
[00:14:41]  It's all about facts for him.
[00:14:43]  He can't massage things.
[00:14:45]  You know, it's like, yeah, but if you say, you ought to just say it like this from now on.
[00:14:49]  And he's like, yeah, but that wouldn't be, that wouldn't be accurate because technically it, and you're like, ah, Christ.
[00:14:55]  Right, right, right.
[00:14:55]  All right, Pete, you can say it like that.
[00:14:57]  You know, if I say it's this, he's like, well, the actual legal term is, what the fuck is, what the legal term is.
[00:15:04]  I'm trying to, I'm writing a story here.
[00:15:05]  Yeah.
[00:15:05]  Nobody knows the difference between that and that, you know?
[00:15:08]  So, this whole thing started basically when he was like in his early 20s, and they started manufacturing ecstasy, right?
[00:15:15]  Right.
[00:15:15]  Started with ecstasy.
[00:15:16]  Yeah.
[00:15:16]  It wasn't even illegal yet.
[00:15:18]  Okay.
[00:15:18]  So then it becomes illegal, and he and this guy named John Ellenberger, Ellenberger brings him in because he's a super smart kid.
[00:15:26]  And Ellenberger is a few years older than him, and he asks around, and he knows him through some other guys, and he comes to him and he approaches him a few times.
[00:15:34]  And Ellenberger's at this point, like mid 20s, driving a Ferrari, and he's running around LA just slinging.
[00:15:40]  Coke and Ecstasy.
[00:15:41]  And banging models.
[00:15:42]  Yeah.
[00:15:43]  I mean, literally banging Playboy models.
[00:15:44]  I mean, he's, you know, he's a rock star.
[00:15:46]  And he's partying with guys from Guns N' Roses.
[00:15:52]  In the larger volume book, I talk about how Pete would come home and these guys from fucking Guns N' Roses would be on the couch with his little brother playing the guitar.
[00:16:00]  That's crazy.
[00:16:01]  He's like, you know, it wasn't a big deal.
[00:16:02]  Looking back, I realized, yeah, that's not normal.
[00:16:06]  He's also living in a $2.5 million house.
[00:16:08]  He's like, with no furniture.
[00:16:09]  You know, he's like, I mean, it's, you know, you're kids.
[00:16:12]  You're just stupid.
[00:16:13]  Right.
[00:16:14]  So, but yeah, they would move.
[00:16:16]  And so they set up a, they end up.
[00:16:19]  They end up, they're making a ton of money.
[00:16:21]  Pete starts making a ton of money.
[00:16:22]  And then what they do is this guy, Robolis, comes along and he comes to them and they know the circle of drug dealers.
[00:16:31]  They know these guys are manufacturing X.
[00:16:34]  So Robolis comes in and says, Look, can you manufacture this?
[00:16:37]  And it's a crystal.
[00:16:38]  And he goes, What is it?
[00:16:39]  He goes, It's called ice.
[00:16:40]  It's crystal meth.
[00:16:41]  He goes, It's methamphetamine, but it's crystallized.
[00:16:43]  And it's a super pure form of it.
[00:16:45]  Right.
[00:16:45]  And he goes, Well, yeah, give it to me and I'll put in the mass spectrometer and fucking break it down, figure out what's in this shit.
[00:16:51]  Keep in mind, it's pretty internet.
[00:16:53]  Yeah.
[00:16:53]  So they break it down.
[00:16:55]  He talks to the professor and they go and they break it down.
[00:16:59]  The professor says, okay, well, we got to do this and this.
[00:17:02]  So they break it all down.
[00:17:04]  It's Breaking Bad.
[00:17:05]  It is.
[00:17:06]  They figure that shit out.
[00:17:07]  But they're not making meth.
[00:17:08]  They're making crystal meth, which I didn't know the difference.
[00:17:10]  I wonder if Breaking Bad was based off this fucking story.
[00:17:13]  When did Breaking Bad first come out?
[00:17:14]  There's a guy it's based off of.
[00:17:16]  Is that?
[00:17:16]  Yeah.
[00:17:16]  I mean, this seems too.
[00:17:17]  Yeah, I've seen the story.
[00:17:19]  There's a guy.
[00:17:19]  It looks just like that guy in Breaking Bad.
[00:17:22]  Yeah, and Breaking Bad was way after this, too.
[00:17:25]  You know, this is like 10 years, 10, 15 years after that.
[00:17:28]  Right.
[00:17:29]  So, actually, the professor does get busted eventually.
[00:17:31]  Right.
[00:17:32]  I've read two articles on him getting busted.
[00:17:35]  And how did they get this chemistry professor to manufacture the crystal meth?
[00:17:40]  Well, he needed money.
[00:17:41]  Money.
[00:17:42]  It's always money.
[00:17:42]  Yeah.
[00:17:43]  I mean, listen, I got.
[00:17:44]  He didn't have cancer, did he?
[00:17:45]  No, it's not.
[00:17:46]  It's not in this book.
[00:17:48]  Yeah.
[00:17:48]  But in the full book, I mean, the professor is hilarious.
[00:17:53]  I mean, like, he's dating this tall black chick that Pete's like, that I'm.
[00:17:58]  It may have been a man.
[00:17:59]  Of course.
[00:18:00]  I mean, Adam Zappel.
[00:18:01]  He was like, we had some serious discussions.
[00:18:03]  He was 25 years younger than him.
[00:18:05]  He was, he's just head over heels.
[00:18:07]  He said, I mean, it was bizarre.
[00:18:09]  It was bizarre.
[00:18:10]  So, you know, and he, of course, he's smoking.
[00:18:14]  Did I mention that he's smoking?
[00:18:15]  He's freebasing.
[00:18:16]  Freebasing.
[00:18:16]  Smoking Coke.
[00:18:17]  Right, right.
[00:18:19]  Which, you know, back then was not like, you know, it wasn't crack.
[00:18:22]  It was freebasing.
[00:18:23]  Close to the same fucking thing.
[00:18:25]  I understand, but in his mind, it was different.
[00:18:26]  Right, right.
[00:18:27]  In his mind, it's a little bit different.
[00:18:28]  Oh, yeah.
[00:18:28]  Yeah, it wasn't.
[00:18:29]  When you're doing it, of course, it's different.
[00:18:30]  Yeah, it was.
[00:18:31]  I'm not smoking crack.
[00:18:32]  They're Freemason.
[00:18:33]  So he.
[00:18:33]  There's a difference, goddammit.
[00:18:35]  So they're doing the drugs and everything.
[00:18:36]  I mean, he and Ellen Burger end up.
[00:18:39]  They get into a huge fight.
[00:18:40]  They separate.
[00:18:41]  And then so Pete takes over.
[00:18:42]  When Pete takes over, they end up making.
[00:18:46]  So Pete starts cooking it?
[00:18:48]  Yeah, cook.
[00:18:48]  He's been doing it.
[00:18:49]  Oh.
[00:18:49]  I mean, he.
[00:18:50]  So Pete learned from the chemist.
[00:18:51]  He learned, absolutely.
[00:18:52]  He was his right hand man.
[00:18:53]  Okay, cool.
[00:18:54]  You know, he's talking about the part where he's driving him around because he kept.
[00:18:57]  The professor keeps crashing cars and shit.
[00:18:59]  He's kind of like the handler.
[00:19:00]  Right.
[00:19:01]  He's babysitting him.
[00:19:02]  But.
[00:19:02]  He's also has learned everything, so and Pete's super smart, so he picks up right away.
[00:19:06]  So, I've been listen, I've been in Coleman before where actual chemists come and sit down, and Pete starts talking to him.
[00:19:11]  He's like, What's the chemical combination?
[00:19:13]  and they start talking.
[00:19:14]  The guy will walk away and he'll have a chemistry degree.
[00:19:16]  He's like, He's got a he's where do you graduate?
[00:19:18]  I'm like, Graduate, what are you talking about?
[00:19:21]  Dropped out of high school, he's got a high school diploma.
[00:19:23]  They're like, What?
[00:19:24]  I'm like, Yeah, and he's like, He knows this and this and this, and I'm like, dude, he's a sharp dude, yeah, so.
[00:19:33]  You know, if only it used his superpowers for good.
[00:19:36]  Right.
[00:19:37]  Yeah.
[00:19:39]  So what happens is they start making ICE and they start making a ton of money with ICE.

=== A Drug Deal Gone Wrong (15:57) ===

[00:19:47]  And so at some point, this guy, there's a task force set up throughout California.
[00:19:55]  There's many task forces.
[00:19:56]  Most of them are the FBI's involved in or over in some way.
[00:20:00]  And they will conscript people from the other, the state agencies.
[00:20:07]  What they do is they deputize.
[00:20:09]  Deputize them as basically FBI agents.
[00:20:12]  They'll call him a deputized federal officer working for the FBI task force.
[00:20:23]  So he's now enforcing all of the federal laws.
[00:20:25]  He's an FBI agent, is what he is.
[00:20:28]  And that comes up a few times.
[00:20:30]  So whenever you hear me say FBI, FBI, FBI keeps being brought up.
[00:20:33]  The government keeps trying to separate them.
[00:20:36]  No, no, that wasn't like Mueller's like, he was a state.
[00:20:39]  No, he wasn't state.
[00:20:42]  He's and I specifically that this is the document that I was talking about where I explained that this is where the guy Sean Barrera Who now who was Sean Barrera is the I mean he says right here Deputized special federal officer for the FBI.
[00:21:03]  Okay, that's Sean Barrero.
[00:21:05]  He works for the FBI task force.
[00:21:08]  Okay drug task force and it's right here and it's anyway, it this is on the website.
[00:21:12]  It's like exhibit eight Okay.
[00:21:14]  So, exhibit A.
[00:21:17]  And I don't go through all the exhibits.
[00:21:18]  There's 740 pages of exhibits.
[00:21:20]  I've knocked it down to maybe this is maybe 200 pages.
[00:21:23]  Okay.
[00:21:24]  And I feel like I trimmed it down pretty good.
[00:21:26]  Yeah.
[00:21:26]  So there's some stuff I would love to go over, but the fact of the matter is, you know, nobody's going to fucking watch a six-hour podcast.
[00:21:33]  Well, they might actually.
[00:21:34]  If you're doing it, they'll watch it.
[00:21:36]  Yeah.
[00:21:36]  That's funny.
[00:21:37]  Okay.
[00:21:38]  So, anyway, so, like, this is going to be a little issue because the only reason I'm not even really.
[00:21:45]  Don't want to focus on the book because someone watching, man, I'm sorry.
[00:21:50]  See, I'm a hands guy.
[00:21:52]  I'm not talking to my hands.
[00:21:53]  So, you know, the problem is what we're talking about.
[00:21:57]  People will watch him say, oh, that's bullshit.
[00:22:00]  That's not true.
[00:22:00]  Okay, well, don't fucking try.
[00:22:02]  Don't listen to me, bro.
[00:22:04]  Go on the.
[00:22:05]  Buy the book.
[00:22:06]  Definitely buy the book.
[00:22:07]  Buy the book.
[00:22:09]  Go on the website.
[00:22:09]  I got a whole website with 740 pages of documents.
[00:22:15]  And.
[00:22:16]  They, they're, this thing is, man, this thing, there's never been anything this supported with documentation.
[00:22:21]  Right.
[00:22:22]  So I'm saying, I'm just going to go, let's just go kind of go through the documents.
[00:22:25]  I don't have to read them anything because I know we had taught that talk.
[00:22:27]  It's boring.
[00:22:28]  I'll just explain what each document is and we'll just kind of go through and that will tell the story.
[00:22:32]  Right.
[00:22:32]  So let's tell the story through the documents instead of the book.
[00:22:35]  Right.
[00:22:36]  You know, I mean, there is a book.
[00:22:38]  There is a book.
[00:22:38]  Devil Exposed.
[00:22:39]  You can buy it on Amazon.
[00:22:40]  You can buy it on Amazon.
[00:22:41]  The link is below.
[00:22:42]  Link's below.
[00:22:43]  So here is, okay.
[00:22:46]  So Barrero.
[00:22:48]  Is an FBI agent.
[00:22:51]  His main asset is a guy named Mark Farsione.
[00:22:56]  Right.
[00:22:56]  Farsione is, he rides with the Hells Angels.
[00:23:00]  He was once a drug dealer.
[00:23:01]  Now he's just a professional informant.
[00:23:07]  So he weasels his way into groups.
[00:23:10]  He gets them comfortable with them.
[00:23:11]  He starts dealing drugs with them and they come in and crack them, right?
[00:23:16]  This is common.
[00:23:17]  The problem is there's a lot of money involved.
[00:23:20]  And so, what happens is these guys start ripping up periodically.
[00:23:25]  They're in a situation where I've kind of infiltrated your group.
[00:23:28]  You trust me.
[00:23:29]  We set up a deal.
[00:23:31]  You bring half a million dollars.
[00:23:32]  I'm supposed to bring the drugs.
[00:23:34]  I don't bring the drugs, I just bring my badge and my gun.
[00:23:37]  And I say, give me the shit, FBI, or we can just bust you.
[00:23:41]  You've got a life sentence on you right now.
[00:23:43]  You're going to get a life sentence.
[00:23:44]  Or just hand over the drugs or the money or whatever it is.
[00:23:48]  Just stick some up for it.
[00:23:49]  Now, what could this guy possibly do with, for example, 10 pounds of ice?
[00:23:55]  Oh, he just could take that and then parlay it into another drug deal where now he just sells the ice.
[00:24:00]  No, he could just sell it.
[00:24:00]  Okay, I got it.
[00:24:01]  Right.
[00:24:01]  So if they end up getting the money, great.
[00:24:03]  If they get ice, well, that's fine.
[00:24:05]  Then they can then turn around and sell the ice.
[00:24:07]  They're not worried about getting busted.
[00:24:08]  Right.
[00:24:09]  No matter what happens.
[00:24:09]  I always got to like a get out of jail free card, right?
[00:24:12]  Well, think about it.
[00:24:12]  Even if I walked in, I arranged something to go to sell it, and then boom, there's a raid.
[00:24:17]  Right.
[00:24:17]  I can always turn around and if it's DEA, you go, whoa, whoa, what are you guys doing?
[00:24:21]  I'm FBI.
[00:24:22]  Right.
[00:24:23]  Undercover.
[00:24:24]  Right.
[00:24:24]  Yeah.
[00:24:24]  So, and keep in mind.
[00:24:26]  Oops, keep in mind.
[00:24:28]  I said that about a thousand times last night.
[00:24:29]  That's okay.
[00:24:30]  I'm going to go with understand.
[00:24:31]  Okay.
[00:24:32]  You have to understand.
[00:24:33]  Okay.
[00:24:33]  So.
[00:24:34]  Take a shot every time he says keep in mind.
[00:24:35]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:24:39]  So you have to understand, Farcion.
[00:24:43]  Actually gave, I'm sorry, Barrero gave Farcione a badge and a gun.
[00:24:50]  So, I mean, you don't give your informant a badge and a gun.
[00:24:54]  Right.
[00:24:54]  He's got a badge and a gun.
[00:24:55]  He's flashing it.
[00:24:56]  He's telling people he's FBI.
[00:24:59]  And what's even funnier, what's not even in the book, is that at one point, Farcione loses the badge.
[00:25:07]  Pete's mom has it, has it in her safety deposit box, took pictures of it, sent it to Mueller saying, come get this badge.
[00:25:15]  I don't want it.
[00:25:16]  Pete told him about it during the interviews.
[00:25:19]  Mueller didn't even respond.
[00:25:20]  He can't respond because a 302 would be generated.
[00:25:23]  What's a 302?
[00:25:25]  It's a report from the FBI that's a chronological report so that any agent can grab it and start reading, and it tells everything that's step-by-step, everything that's happened, everybody we've talked to, everything we've done, every phone call we got, every interview, everything.
[00:25:38]  So it just documents everything.
[00:25:39]  Everything is recorded.
[00:25:40]  Right.
[00:25:40]  He doesn't even, right.
[00:25:42]  Keep in mind, if I called up and said, hey, I found an FBI badge sitting outside, within 30 minutes, there would be two agents here picking it up.
[00:25:48]  Yeah, real quick.
[00:25:49]  But he can't say anything because you have to hear the whole story.
[00:25:54]  He can't.
[00:25:55]  He can't know about it, right?
[00:25:56]  Right.
[00:25:57]  He can't further this whole FBI thing because he's been denying it the whole time.
[00:26:01]  Right.
[00:26:01]  So, all right.
[00:26:02]  So eventually what happens is.
[00:26:05]  This is already taking too fucking long.
[00:26:07]  All right.
[00:26:08]  So eventually what happens is.
[00:26:11]  Farcion and Barrero get John Ellenberger to.
[00:26:21]  They go to them and they say, look, we need to buy a bunch of like.
[00:26:24]  Ice or coke.
[00:26:25]  I think it was ice.
[00:26:25]  Was it ice?
[00:26:26]  Yeah.
[00:26:26]  They wanted to buy a bunch of ice.
[00:26:28]  It's like 50 pounds or something.
[00:26:29]  Oh, right, right.
[00:26:30]  Was it ice or coke?
[00:26:32]  I thought it was ice.
[00:26:33]  Fuck, I don't remember.
[00:26:34]  Who cares?
[00:26:35]  Ice, coke, what's the difference?
[00:26:37]  Right.
[00:26:37]  See, Rossini would know.
[00:26:39]  Oh, yeah.
[00:26:39]  Rossini would know that.
[00:26:40]  Oh, actually, there's a difference.
[00:26:42]  Quite a big difference.
[00:26:42]  Right.
[00:26:43]  So, what happens is a drug deal.
[00:26:45]  They set up a drug deal where they're supposed to show up and they're bringing product and money.
[00:26:53]  And what happens is they show up and they pull out their badges.
[00:26:58]  This is at their drug lab in the penthouse on Sunset Boulevard.
[00:27:02]  Sunset Boulevard, yeah.
[00:27:04]  In this high rise building where they've got a drug lab.
[00:27:08]  They go in, they get the money, they take the money.
[00:27:10]  They're supposed to bring the drugs back instead.
[00:27:13]  They pull their badges out and they say, hey, listen, man, we're taking your shit and we're taking all this ice.
[00:27:19]  They take everything and they go, just be thankful you're not going to prison right now.
[00:27:22]  Don't say a fucking thing.
[00:27:24]  And they walk off.
[00:27:25]  So Pete's there.
[00:27:26]  I think there's another guy there too.
[00:27:28]  And so is John.
[00:27:29]  Ellen Burger.
[00:27:30]  Ellen Burger, yeah.
[00:27:31]  So Ellen Burger's like, holy shit.
[00:27:33]  Keep in mind, Ellenberger's been going around town vouching for this guy.
[00:27:37]  He's been telling people, oh, he's good people.
[00:27:39]  He's good friends.
[00:27:39]  For Farshione?
[00:27:41]  For Farshione.
[00:27:41]  Farshione, yeah.
[00:27:42]  Farshione Barrero.
[00:27:43]  They're good guys.
[00:27:44]  Oh, bad.
[00:27:45]  Not good guys.
[00:27:46]  No, no.
[00:27:47]  And not a good idea to be telling your drug dealing buddies who are serious drug dealers.
[00:27:52]  They can trust him.
[00:27:52]  But you can trust this guy.
[00:27:54]  They've been dealing with him.
[00:27:55]  So, fuck.
[00:27:56]  Doesn't look good.
[00:27:57]  Point is, is that they take the fucking money and they leave.
[00:28:01]  So, what happens is that happens.
[00:28:05]  He's pissed off about it.
[00:28:07]  Everybody's upset with him.
[00:28:08]  He's lost a chunk of money.
[00:28:10]  Chunk of money.
[00:28:11]  How much money do you think that bust was worth?
[00:28:13]  Oh, that was in the millions.
[00:28:14]  It was in the millions.
[00:28:15]  I mean, it was like, I think he got away with cash of like, it's something like $300,000.
[00:28:19]  I'd have to look at the exact amount.
[00:28:21]  But all the ice was over $2 to $3 million or something.
[00:28:24]  Several million.
[00:28:25]  Okay.
[00:28:25]  Yes.
[00:28:25]  At least several million.
[00:28:26]  Okay.
[00:28:27]  So what ends up happening is two weeks later, two, three weeks later, two, three weeks later, they're doing another, they're cooking more ice.
[00:28:38]  So they're cooking ice and everybody leaves for the day, and Rossini's there and he's burning off some chemicals.
[00:28:44]  Like he's like, you know, you can burn off like the water.
[00:28:46]  If you burn it off, you'll still have some there and you can use that.
[00:28:48]  He saw him burning it off.
[00:28:50]  He ends up, a lick of flame shoots up and hits the fire extinguisher or fire, whatever, and it goes off.
[00:28:57]  Woo, woo.
[00:28:58]  I mean, fucking goes nuts.
[00:29:01]  He's in a lab with tons of money and everything.
[00:29:05]  These guys are driving Porsches and Ferraris.
[00:29:07]  I mean, and they're, they're, They're in their early 20s.
[00:29:10]  So he grabs the money.
[00:29:12]  He grabs some ice.
[00:29:13]  He grabs his stuff.
[00:29:14]  He goes running downstairs.
[00:29:15]  He jumps in his Porsche.
[00:29:16]  He takes off.
[00:29:18]  The fire department shows up.
[00:29:22]  They go in.
[00:29:23]  There's a fucking meth lab.
[00:29:25]  So they call the police.
[00:29:27]  The police show up.
[00:29:29]  They check it out.
[00:29:29]  They go, oh my God, this is insane.
[00:29:31]  Well, there's a laptop there that's Pete's.
[00:29:36]  There's mail from Ellen Burger.
[00:29:38]  Ellen Burger's like somebody's driver's license is there.
[00:29:41]  The electric and water's in different people's names.
[00:29:44]  We're all going to prison.
[00:29:46]  Yeah.
[00:29:46]  You're all done.
[00:29:48]  You got some explaining to do.
[00:29:49]  I mean, he's like, you don't understand.
[00:29:50]  The amount of evidence that was in there is just devastating.
[00:29:53]  So they all get together and they're terrified.
[00:29:55]  Like the next day, they're all like freaking out.
[00:29:57]  Pete's already gone and given his lawyer $600,000 in cash because he's like, you got to bail me out.
[00:30:01]  And the lawyer's like, I can't bail you out with $600,000.
[00:30:03]  That's crazy.
[00:30:04]  He's like, we'll take the cash.
[00:30:05]  I don't know what to do.
[00:30:06]  I'm going to get arrested.
[00:30:07]  So they go to the mall.
[00:30:09]  They're talking.
[00:30:09]  They're all flipping out.
[00:30:11]  And basically, because it's Pete's fault, I'm sorry, goddammit, because it's Rossini's fault.
[00:30:15]  Yeah.
[00:30:15]  So because it's Rossini's fault, they say pete is Rossini.
[00:30:19]  Pete is Rossini.
[00:30:20]  Yeah.
[00:30:21]  Call Farsione.
[00:30:22]  We know he's dirty.
[00:30:23]  Yeah.
[00:30:24]  He's a dirty FBI agent.
[00:30:25]  I mean, I know he's actually a dirty he's actually an informant.
[00:30:29]  An informant, but he's playing FBI.
[00:30:31]  They think he's an FBI agent.
[00:30:32]  So they're like, call him.
[00:30:33]  Yeah.
[00:30:33]  Call him and Barrero.
[00:30:34]  The guy that took the load from the car.
[00:30:36]  Took all the money.
[00:30:37]  Yeah.
[00:30:37]  We know he's dirty.
[00:30:38]  Yeah.
[00:30:39]  So I can call and talk to him.
[00:30:40]  Right.
[00:30:40]  He kind of owes you one.
[00:30:42]  So he calls him up.
[00:30:44]  Guy, you know, they go pay phone.
[00:30:46]  Makes a phone call, gets the fucking call back, gets a pager, you know, talks to him and he says, Hey, we, and so he immediately goes, What the fuck are you guys doing?
[00:30:54]  We gave you a pass.
[00:30:56]  We let you go.
[00:30:57]  Why'd you stay in the fucking place?
[00:30:59]  You know, it's going, because keep in mind, too, they had told the FBI they were going to bust these guys.
[00:31:05]  Instead, they ripped them off and they told them when we got there, there was no lab.
[00:31:08]  They'd moved.
[00:31:09]  Now there's a lab two weeks later.
[00:31:11]  They're like, We've been in the office all day saying, I shit you not.
[00:31:15]  They must have left.
[00:31:16]  They must have come back.
[00:31:17]  We didn't know.
[00:31:18]  So instead of busting them, they just, Got the money from him.
[00:31:20]  Yeah, they took the money from him.
[00:31:21]  Unless there was no rider.
[00:31:23]  Jesus.
[00:31:23]  But they didn't.
[00:31:24]  So Pete's like, so they end up talking and he says, they said, man, you guys are in a lot of trouble.
[00:31:30]  And Pete said, I could hear he was really anxious.
[00:31:35]  Rossini was scared.
[00:31:36]  Yeah, I'm sorry.
[00:31:36]  Rossini was like, he was scared.
[00:31:38]  So I saw an opportunity.
[00:31:39]  He goes, man, you guys are in a lot of trouble.
[00:31:41]  He goes, yeah, well, that pales in comparison to how much trouble you two fuckers are in.
[00:31:44]  Because anything happens to me or anybody that I know, if we so much as get talked to about this shit, he goes, you guys are going down.
[00:31:55]  He just ripped them off.
[00:31:57]  So he's like, all right, I'll take care of it.
[00:32:01]  He said, call me in a couple days.
[00:32:02]  So calls him back a couple days later.
[00:32:05]  Nobody's ever spoken to.
[00:32:07]  They don't ever call.
[00:32:07]  They don't talk.
[00:32:08]  And just to let you know, this is the actual lease from a guy by the name of Joey Escaboza.
[00:32:20]  Joey Escaboza, his phone number's on here, his address, everything's on the lease.
[00:32:25]  For that apartment?
[00:32:26]  For the apartment.
[00:32:27]  In the hills.
[00:32:28]  Exhibit 12.
[00:32:28]  In the hills.
[00:32:30]  I mean, in the condo.
[00:32:31]  This is the lab, the meth lab.
[00:32:33]  The meth lab.
[00:32:34]  Right, right.
[00:32:34]  Never even got talked to.
[00:32:36]  Not what matter of fact.
[00:32:37]  The guy in the leasing, no one ever even talked to him.
[00:32:39]  Nobody even talked to him.
[00:32:39]  They quashed the whole thing.
[00:32:41]  They went boom, boom, boom.
[00:32:42]  So he did.
[00:32:42]  He squashed it all.
[00:32:44]  You guys go away, drop the whole fucking case.
[00:32:46]  It's over.
[00:32:46]  So he's like, so Pete's like, fuck.
[00:32:48]  I mean, we should have all been going to jail, to prison.
[00:32:51]  So this is this one right here.
[00:32:57]  This is this happens later.
[00:32:59]  This is a transcript from Mark Farshione where Farshione actually in the transcript, this is Exhibit 10.
[00:33:08]  In the transcript, he says he actually talks about how he's playing a big Coke dealer, how they had a lab set up over there in Beverly Hills, Sunset Boulevard, Sunset Boulevard, Sunset Boulevard.
[00:33:23]  He says it three times.
[00:33:25]  He's probably coked up.
[00:33:29]  And he says basically that he switches it a little bit.
[00:33:35]  He says that Ellenberger came to me because keep in mind the.
[00:33:41]  Deputies and every and the agents and everybody later they are hearing what's going on.
[00:33:46]  So when they come to talk to him, he admits, Yeah, yeah, something happened like that, but that's not what happened.
[00:33:51]  And he basically says, Look, Ellenberger asked me to sell him some kilos of coke.
[00:33:55]  He gave me a hundred thousand dollars and I ripped him off for the hundred thousand.
[00:33:59]  I mean, he tells him, I ripped him off for the hundred thousand dollars.
[00:34:02]  Where's the one where he says, Why would he admit it?
[00:34:07]  Because he's being there, they're saying he was ripped off, he ripped off three hundred thousand and a whole bunch of ice.
[00:34:12]  Okay.
[00:34:13]  He's saying, No, no, no, that wasn't it, that wasn't it at all.
[00:34:16]  He also talks about Aria.
[00:34:17]  We talk about Aria in a second.
[00:34:20]  Trying to think of where he says, shit, it's actually pretty good the way he says it too.
[00:34:26]  Damn.
[00:34:28]  Oh, here it is.
[00:34:30]  He says, that's, I just told you.
[00:34:34]  I told him it's better than getting busted, you know, the lost money.
[00:34:40]  It's basically, I, you know, I, fuck, I took the money.
[00:34:44]  I shouldn't have taken it, but I did.
[00:34:45]  Fuck.
[00:34:47]  That's his words.
[00:34:48]  That's what I'm saying.
[00:34:50]  He tells them because you have to read the whole thing.
[00:34:54]  They're badgering him.
[00:34:55]  Oh, you did this?
[00:34:56]  Did you have a badge?
[00:34:57]  I didn't have a badge.
[00:34:58]  You didn't tell people this?
[00:34:59]  He's like, no, no.
[00:35:00]  What about the money?
[00:35:00]  We know you took the money.
[00:35:01]  He's finally like, he just fucking starts, okay, I took the fucking money and he admits it.
[00:35:06]  I shouldn't have, but I did.
[00:35:07]  But he downplays it to 100 grand.
[00:35:09]  He downplays it to 100 grand.
[00:35:10]  They even ask him, did Barrero know?
[00:35:12]  And he goes, yeah, I kind of.
[00:35:14]  They go, so he knew?
[00:35:15]  And he's like, yeah, how'd you tell him that?
[00:35:17]  And he's like, well, you know, I. Kind of eased it in.
[00:35:20]  Wow.
[00:35:20]  You gotta read the transcripts.
[00:35:22]  The guy's such a fucking clown.
[00:35:25]  I mean, he comes off like.
[00:35:27]  Anyway, so this.
[00:35:28]  That's crazy.
[00:35:30]  I'm trying to think.
[00:35:30]  This is, I mean, this basically, so that's him admitting.
[00:35:33]  He also talks about, well, there's other stuff he talks about.
[00:35:36]  I don't know if I should put that aside.
[00:35:37]  Fuck it.
[00:35:38]  Anyway, I'm not worried about it.
[00:35:40]  It's on the website.
[00:35:41]  You got to read it, though.
[00:35:42]  It's just fine.
[00:35:42]  Yeah.

=== Home Invasion and Arrests (11:22) ===

[00:35:44]  So all these PDFs are on the website?
[00:35:46]  Yeah.
[00:35:47]  Okay.
[00:35:47]  Everything's on the website.
[00:35:49]  Not my website.
[00:35:50]  The website is devil-exposed-exhibits.com.
[00:35:55]  Okay.
[00:35:55]  I can put a link to that as well, yeah.
[00:35:57]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:35:58]  In here, he talks about how everybody thought he was law enforcement.
[00:36:02]  But he never told them he was law enforcement.
[00:36:03]  Of course, I've also got about six other statements where he showed people his badge and gun, his FBI badge and gun.
[00:36:11]  So it's like, come on, what are these?
[00:36:13]  Now, what are these transcripts?
[00:36:15]  What are these taken from?
[00:36:17]  Like, are these transcripts?
[00:36:18]  Are these from phone calls?
[00:36:19]  Are these from?
[00:36:19]  No, no, these are when this whole thing falls apart.
[00:36:24]  Eventually, there's homicides.
[00:36:27]  Homicide detectives come in.
[00:36:29]  FBI agents come in.
[00:36:30]  They start interviewing people.
[00:36:31]  Yeah, okay.
[00:36:32]  These are from interviews.
[00:36:33]  Right.
[00:36:33]  Got it.
[00:36:34]  So they're all definitely interviews.
[00:36:36]  So do you remember?
[00:36:38]  So what happens is they made the phone call.
[00:36:42]  They make the thing go away.
[00:36:44]  A few months and months later, they end up, Ellen Burger bumps into Farsione and Barrero at the opening of the Hard Rock Cafe in Vegas, right?
[00:36:59]  Because Ellen Burger is a big gambler.
[00:37:01]  Yeah.
[00:37:02]  So he bumps into them and they have a conversation and Farsione's there with like some porn star.
[00:37:08]  If you actually see the thing, I actually have the woman's name.
[00:37:11]  I have a little thing and I put porn star.
[00:37:13]  So you can look her up.
[00:37:15]  So, and every time one of these, every time he does one of these, he makes sure to tell the agents, yeah, I was with so and so.
[00:37:21]  She's a porn star.
[00:37:22]  So he likes to throw that out there.
[00:37:25]  So, yeah, so he meets them and they see him and they're a little nervous, but he comes up and he talks to him.
[00:37:30]  He says, listen, he goes, like, what's going on?
[00:37:32]  He says, look, we're actually working on trying to bust this guy, but we want to rob him.
[00:37:37]  Can you give us some ice?
[00:37:39]  So now he's asking him for ice, and he goes, yeah.
[00:37:42]  And Ellen Burger goes, yeah, I can get you some fucking ice.
[00:37:44]  So he gets him some ice because he's like, he thinks to himself, you know, I'm doing a lot of shit.
[00:37:50]  It's good to have him on his side, right?
[00:37:52]  It's good to have a dirty agent in your pocket, right?
[00:37:55]  All day.
[00:37:55]  Right.
[00:37:56]  So that's what in this one he talks about.
[00:38:02]  Yeah, he talks about meeting him at the Hard Rock Cafe, you know, months and months later.
[00:38:10]  So they end up.
[00:38:13]  So he ends up, he ends up, starts to kind of deal with him again.
[00:38:17]  And what happens is every once periodically, you know that's this in the book, somebody will get busted.
[00:38:22]  So they get busted or somebody's getting indicted and these guys will come to them and say, look, we're dealing with this guy.
[00:38:30]  Is he cool?
[00:38:31]  And he'll call Farshione.
[00:38:33]  Farshione will call Barrero.
[00:38:34]  Barrero will come back and say, now the guy got busted like three weeks ago.
[00:38:38]  He's working.
[00:38:39]  He's already talking to us.
[00:38:42]  Yeah.
[00:38:43]  So they stop dealing with him.
[00:38:45]  So at one point, Aria, which Aria was a drug dealer, he was supplying ecstasy.
[00:38:55]  And I think, I don't know if he eventually starts dealing in ice or not.
[00:38:58]  I can't recall.
[00:38:59]  But he was definitely, I have a transcript where they say he's a drug dealer.
[00:39:02]  Several people say he's a drug dealer.
[00:39:04]  And so what happens is, I want to say it's his cousin gets busted with a bunch of ice.
[00:39:12]  He gets just red handed busted.
[00:39:14]  So he gets busted and they contact.
[00:39:18]  They contact Farshion and they explain, hey, look, this guy, he got busted.
[00:39:24]  Can you fix it?
[00:39:25]  And although Pete's like, I don't know what ultimately happened, I know that Ario was, they were trying to work it out with him where they were going to pay him.
[00:39:34]  And so here he says, Did they call you about Reza?
[00:39:37]  And he says, Yeah, called me about Reza.
[00:39:40]  Who called you?
[00:39:42]  Pierre, Rossini, sorry.
[00:39:44]  Rossini called me and asked me.
[00:39:45]  AKA Pete.
[00:39:46]  Yeah.
[00:39:47]  If I could do anything.
[00:39:48]  Pierre, Pete, Rossini.
[00:39:49]  Right.
[00:39:51]  When Reza got busted, collect information.
[00:39:55]  When Reza got busted, and it goes on, he talks about how.
[00:40:00]  If there was anybody he could pay off to get him out and he said he'd look into it and that sort of thing.
[00:40:04]  He goes, did you?
[00:40:04]  He's like, you know, I looked into it.
[00:40:06]  And he never really says exactly what happened.
[00:40:08]  But Pete said, I don't know exactly what happened.
[00:40:10]  He goes, but I do know that about three or four weeks later, Rossini or Reza walked out of jail and was never charged or got dropped.
[00:40:19]  So once again, he, you know, something happened.
[00:40:23]  They just paid him.
[00:40:25]  They get out, get off.
[00:40:26]  And Pete said they're regularly giving him $30,000, $100,000.
[00:40:31]  So when these guys start getting, so this is a.
[00:40:33]  What is this one?
[00:40:35]  So at one point, you know, Pete has a buddy.
[00:40:38]  Rossini has a buddy.
[00:40:40]  Let's just stick to Pete.
[00:40:42]  Yeah.
[00:40:42]  Let's just call him Pete.
[00:40:43]  Yeah, that's fine.
[00:40:44]  Pete Rossini.
[00:40:45]  I've caught on to it.
[00:40:46]  I can go with Rossini.
[00:40:46]  Yeah.
[00:40:47]  I can do it.
[00:40:48]  Whatever you want to do.
[00:40:49]  Everyone knows by now.
[00:40:50]  Okay.
[00:40:50]  So Pete Rossini.
[00:40:51]  Rossini gets busted at one.
[00:40:53]  Not busted.
[00:40:53]  He gets like arrested.
[00:40:55]  He's being indicted in a few different jurisdictions.
[00:40:58]  He gets arrested one day.
[00:40:59]  He gets thrown in jail.
[00:41:01]  You know, the little.
[00:41:02]  Is this during the raid where they tried to rob the guy's house when they think they stole from Ellenberger?
[00:41:06]  They stole a bunch of shit from.
[00:41:07]  From Ellenberger, and they go back and try to rob, and they raid this dude's house and they tie him up.
[00:41:11]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:41:12]  Well, Pete, yeah, Pete was always like, I, yeah, that whole thing was funny because I kept saying, okay, well, during this home invasion, he was like, stop calling it a home invasion.
[00:41:19]  Yeah.
[00:41:20]  He goes, stop calling it a home invasion.
[00:41:21]  I go, why?
[00:41:22]  I go, it was a home invasion.
[00:41:23]  He goes, first of all, he said, I stayed in the car.
[00:41:25]  Yeah.
[00:41:26]  He was the getaway driver.
[00:41:27]  Yeah.
[00:41:27]  He goes, I wasn't involved in a home invasion.
[00:41:29]  He said, this was Ellenberger hired a bunch of guys that went in.
[00:41:33]  It was a burglary.
[00:41:34]  And I go, Pete, they kicked in the front door and they tied some guys up and they went and they were looking for drugs.
[00:41:39]  I go, that's a home invasion.
[00:41:40]  He goes, There was no such thing as home invasion there.
[00:41:42]  He said, please stop saying home invasion.
[00:41:45]  It's really making me feel uncomfortable.
[00:41:47]  He said, I wouldn't be involved in a home invasion.
[00:41:48]  I said, yeah, but a strong arm burglary?
[00:41:51]  And he goes, I waited in the car.
[00:41:54]  Still a part of it.
[00:41:55]  That's like the guy that says, hey, I know these guys that are robbing banks.
[00:41:58]  How do you know?
[00:41:59]  Well, because I'm the getaway driver.
[00:42:01]  Yeah, I'm just a getaway driver.
[00:42:02]  So anyway, he ends up getting arrested.
[00:42:05]  No, no, that one, he actually, that whole thing, he actually pleads it out and.
[00:42:11]  Gets put on probation.
[00:42:12]  Okay.
[00:42:12]  This is later.
[00:42:13]  Okay.
[00:42:14]  Later, he's just being named in different conspiracies and he's getting indicted in a couple different jurisdictions.
[00:42:20]  They're looking for him.
[00:42:21]  So at some point, he gets arrested.
[00:42:23]  You got to read the book for the exact dates and what happens.
[00:42:26]  He gets arrested.
[00:42:27]  So at one point, he gets arrested.
[00:42:29]  Well, Rossini has a friend who's a police officer.
[00:42:34]  He calls his.
[00:42:35]  So he's been arrested.
[00:42:36]  He gets thrown in jail.
[00:42:37]  He calls the police officer and he says, Hey, listen, man.
[00:42:40]  He said, Can you call my buddy Mark Farsione and.
[00:42:45]  Tell him where I'm at and he needs to get me out of jail.
[00:42:49]  So he calls Farcione.
[00:42:50]  Farcione does something.
[00:42:52]  Obviously, Farcione calls Barrero because Farcione's a fucking informant.
[00:42:55]  He can't call the local sheriff's department and say, hey, that's my buddy.
[00:42:59]  Let him out of jail.
[00:43:00]  He calls Barrero.
[00:43:01]  Barrero probably calls somebody else, like one of his superiors, one of his other buddies, because Barrero's not even in jail.
[00:43:06]  Farcione can't make anything happen without Barrero.
[00:43:08]  Right.
[00:43:09]  So he makes a phone call.
[00:43:10]  He calls back.
[00:43:12]  Pete walks right out of jail.
[00:43:13]  They release him.
[00:43:15]  This is a declaration from this guy.
[00:43:21]  Is it Marcius?
[00:43:23]  Marcius?
[00:43:23]  I don't know.
[00:43:24]  Anyway, that's his declaration where he explains that Pete called them from the jail.
[00:43:29]  He made a phone call.
[00:43:30]  He called Mark.
[00:43:31]  Mark said he'd take care of it.
[00:43:34]  Pete walked out of jail.
[00:43:38]  And that back then, Pete had already, look at the first paragraph, Pete had already told him that he knew an FBI agent, a dirty FBI agent.
[00:43:47]  He'd already told him that.
[00:43:48]  So keep in mind, once again, this has been going on.
[00:43:52]  Dirty agents, I'm paying them off.
[00:43:53]  Everything's going good.
[00:43:55]  It's going smooth.
[00:43:55]  I get arrested.
[00:43:56]  I go to jail.
[00:43:57]  Nope.
[00:43:57]  They make a phone call.
[00:43:58]  They get me out.
[00:43:58]  My buddy gets busted.
[00:43:59]  They do a couple of things.
[00:44:00]  He walks out.
[00:44:02]  I need to know who I'm dealing with.
[00:44:03]  Is this guy a snitch?
[00:44:04]  You know, I don't know.
[00:44:05]  Can you check out this guy?
[00:44:07]  Hey, here's his name.
[00:44:08]  Sure.
[00:44:08]  Yeah.
[00:44:08]  You know what?
[00:44:08]  Don't deal with him.
[00:44:09]  Yeah.
[00:44:11]  These guys have the hookup.
[00:44:12]  Right.
[00:44:13]  Big time.
[00:44:13]  Yeah.
[00:44:14]  They're just.
[00:44:14]  They're fucking rolling.
[00:44:16]  Yeah.
[00:44:16]  They got it all.
[00:44:17]  So.
[00:44:18]  And at the same time, Mark Farshione and.
[00:44:23]  What was the other guy's name?
[00:44:25]  Barrero.
[00:44:25]  Barrero.
[00:44:26]  Those guys are.
[00:44:27]  Raking in cash from these guys.
[00:44:29]  They're robbing people left and right.
[00:44:30]  They're just extorting these drug dealers for so much money.
[00:44:33]  It's ridiculous.
[00:44:34]  Right, right.
[00:44:36]  So.
[00:44:37]  They're playing both sides.
[00:44:38]  This is a guy named.
[00:44:39]  Double dipping.
[00:44:40]  Yeah.
[00:44:40]  This is a guy named Meacham.
[00:44:42]  Okay.
[00:44:43]  Meacham, when he ultimately gets interviewed a couple years later, he talks about how he met Rossini.
[00:44:48]  He knew Rossini.
[00:44:49]  He knew Rossini was dealing with a dirty, corrupt, a corrupt police officer working.
[00:44:54]  He was working with him.
[00:44:56]  And it says Rossini had once informed Meacham.
[00:44:58]  That if he was ever arrested, this police officer could help him out, but it would cost $100,000.
[00:45:08]  I mean, that's obviously his two FBI agents, buddies.
[00:45:13]  And possibly another guy, which is this other guy, Blum, that we don't mention much, but he's also.
[00:45:18]  The only reason I think he's definitely involved is because there's different jurisdictions.
[00:45:22]  So if you want to know what's going on in this jurisdiction, you have to call over there.
[00:45:25]  Well, Blum's here.
[00:45:26]  Blum's the one who's helping him here.
[00:45:28]  And then when they all end up getting investigated.
[00:45:31]  All of these guys take early stress disability.
[00:45:33]  Well, so does Blum.
[00:45:34]  Same time.
[00:45:35]  Take it, take it.
[00:45:36]  Early stress disability.
[00:45:37]  Stress disability.
[00:45:38]  I'm stressed.
[00:45:39]  And all three take the same exact thing.
[00:45:41]  Absolutely.
[00:45:41]  Well, not all three because Farshione's just a fucking.
[00:45:43]  Well, Farshione's not.
[00:45:44]  He doesn't work for the FBI yet.
[00:45:45]  He's just a.
[00:45:46]  Right.
[00:45:47]  He's working for Farshione.
[00:45:48]  He's just a two-bit biker thug.
[00:45:50]  Right.
[00:45:51]  So this.
[00:45:53]  Okay.
[00:45:53]  Whoa, Okay.
[00:45:55]  So, all right.
[00:45:56]  So let's stop now.
[00:45:57]  So what happens is we.
[00:46:01]  You read the book, so you know.
[00:46:03]  Yeah.
[00:46:04]  Ellen Berger is he's he's in desperate straits, right?
[00:46:08]  He's he's had a couple of bad things happen.
[00:46:11]  He's lost some money.
[00:46:12]  His gambling debts are out just fucking outrageous.
[00:46:16]  He's been indicted in multiple jurisdictions.
[00:46:19]  Feds are looking for him.
[00:46:20]  Pete said, man, they were they had him under so much he's on the highway to hell.
[00:46:23]  Yeah, he's he's he knew he's in a lot of a lot of trouble.
[00:46:26]  What happens is he ends up getting himself indicted out of Hawaii.
[00:46:33]  So Barrero and Farshon tell him, Hey, you've been indicted.
[00:46:39]  Matter of fact, at one point, they go to ship some drugs.
[00:46:43]  They have a drug courier, and Farshon calls the guy up and says, Calls up Ellenberger and Rossini and says, Don't let the guy go.
[00:46:50]  They're waiting for him.
[00:46:52]  Like, stops it.
[00:46:53]  So they say, Look, there's an indictment.
[00:46:55]  A bunch of people are indicted.
[00:46:58]  He tells Ellenberger, Give me X amount of dollars.
[00:47:01]  I forget what it was, how much it was, but this much money, I'll give you the whole list.
[00:47:03]  Okay, so he calls him up and he gives him the whole list.

=== Jenny Snaps and Calls Phones (11:16) ===

[00:47:06]  Barrero actually admits that.
[00:47:09]  So, in Barrero's, one of Barrero's statements, he tells, Yeah, I gave him the list of people that had been indicted.
[00:47:19]  In exchange for the money?
[00:47:20]  Yeah, in exchange for the money.
[00:47:21]  And that he was one of them.
[00:47:22]  So they go to him and they say, Look, maybe you ought to consider cooperating.
[00:47:27]  So he says, Okay, I'll think about cooperating definitely.
[00:47:30]  Well, what happens in the meantime is he's dating this girl named Jenny Braybrooks.
[00:47:37]  They end up breaking up.
[00:47:39]  They break up because she finds out that Ellen Burger's been cheating on him.
[00:47:45]  And I mean, he's been cheating on her forever.
[00:47:47]  It's just nothing stopping this guy.
[00:47:50]  So she'd catch him sometimes.
[00:47:52]  He'd lie his way out of it, deny, deny, deny.
[00:47:55]  Well, anyway.
[00:47:56]  According to Pete, what ends up happening there is they figure out somebody is telling Jenny what's happened, that he's cheating.
[00:48:08]  So they don't know who.
[00:48:11]  Ellenberger has no clue, but she's not having it.
[00:48:13]  She's done with him.
[00:48:14]  Well, so one day, Pete and Ellenberger go over to Aria's house.
[00:48:22]  So they go to Aria's house and they say, and they stop because they're waiting for a call.
[00:48:26]  Remember, you have to page somebody.
[00:48:28]  There's no phones.
[00:48:29]  There's not cell phones, really.
[00:48:31]  So they page this.
[00:48:32]  Well, they're always cell phones, but they're these huge things.
[00:48:34]  Right.
[00:48:34]  You page somebody and call from a line.
[00:48:36]  Yeah, guy's got a pager.
[00:48:37]  So they page this guy who's going to supply him with some meth or something.
[00:48:40]  I forget.
[00:48:40]  It's like what we were in middle school.
[00:48:42]  Yeah.
[00:48:43]  So they page them and they're waiting at Aria's house for the phone call.
[00:48:46]  They're sitting there.
[00:48:47]  They're playing games and goofing off, playing Atari or whatever you had back then.
[00:48:50]  Playing Snake.
[00:48:51]  Right.
[00:48:51]  So what happens is the phone rings, but they don't answer it.
[00:48:55]  It's not their phone.
[00:48:55]  They let it go to the answering machine and.
[00:48:58]  A voice comes on and says, oh, Aria, I had such a good time last night.
[00:49:01]  You're so wonderful.
[00:49:02]  The flowers are beautiful.
[00:49:04]  Thank you so much.
[00:49:05]  I love you so much.
[00:49:07]  You're the best.
[00:49:08]  And it's Jenny.
[00:49:09]  And it's Jenny.
[00:49:10]  It's Ellen Berger's ex-girlfriend.
[00:49:13]  Yeah.
[00:49:13]  And so he realizes Aria is the one who's been telling her that I've been fucking around.
[00:49:19]  And so he's just devastated.
[00:49:20]  So now Aria's hitting it.
[00:49:23]  Yeah.
[00:49:23]  Oh, yeah.
[00:49:24]  They get married.
[00:49:25]  She moves in with them.
[00:49:26]  They get married, the whole thing.
[00:49:27]  So he's just like, I mean, he's distraught.
[00:49:31]  So he's driving around.
[00:49:32]  He's found out.
[00:49:33]  Does he call him out when he hears the message?
[00:49:34]  No, you know what he does?
[00:49:36]  He actually sets the machine so that they don't listen to it.
[00:49:40]  They set it so Aria doesn't even have a clue.
[00:49:43]  Oh.
[00:49:44]  So when Barrero and Farshon kind of come around and say, look, you've been indicted and you have to cooperate, he says, I'll give you Aria.
[00:49:52]  I'll give you Aria.
[00:49:53]  Aria and this other big time drug dealer.
[00:49:55]  Neither of which he can probably really give them.
[00:49:57]  Talking about Estes?
[00:49:59]  No, no, not Estes.
[00:50:00]  This other guy named Robles.
[00:50:01]  Okay, okay, okay.
[00:50:02]  So I'm trying to limit the amount of names.
[00:50:05]  Got it.
[00:50:05]  So another big joke.
[00:50:06]  Okay.
[00:50:07]  There's so many fucking names in the story.
[00:50:08]  It's crazy.
[00:50:09]  So he says, okay.
[00:50:10]  So he goes, I'll give you Roblis and this guy.
[00:50:13]  So he starts naming guys.
[00:50:14]  And of course, Arya is the one he made.
[00:50:15]  Real Arya.
[00:50:16]  He wants to give up Arya.
[00:50:16]  He wants Arya bad.
[00:50:18]  So, well, somehow or another, Arya finds out.
[00:50:24]  So what ends up happening is one day Pete's out.
[00:50:28]  He's out.
[00:50:29]  He's partying.
[00:50:31]  Nason finds out that.
[00:50:33]  Who's Nason?
[00:50:34]  Nason is a guy that was basically.
[00:50:36]  Ellenberger's kind of doo boy.
[00:50:38]  He was a young kid.
[00:50:39]  He wanted to be an actor.
[00:50:40]  He's like 22, 23 years old, real good looking guy.
[00:50:43]  Comes to LA, wants to be an actor.
[00:50:45]  He's going on auditions.
[00:50:46]  And in the meantime, he's kind of Ellenberger's doo boy like, hey, go wash my car.
[00:50:50]  Hey, do this.
[00:50:50]  And he's giving him money.
[00:50:51]  He gets free drugs and whatever.
[00:50:53]  You know, he gets to travel with him, and Arya pays for everything.
[00:50:55]  But he's just kind of an assistant.
[00:50:57]  Yeah.
[00:50:58]  So, and he finds out that he gets angry at Ellenberger about something.
[00:51:07]  Convoluted.
[00:51:07]  It's one of those things.
[00:51:08]  It's like this and this.
[00:51:09]  He gets pissed off at him.
[00:51:11]  One, he knows also that he's cooperating and he's going to cooperate against.
[00:51:15]  He's going to cooperate against.
[00:51:16]  He knows Ellenberger's cooperating.
[00:51:18]  Yeah.
[00:51:19]  What did I say?
[00:51:20]  I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm trying to make it clear.
[00:51:22]  Nason knows that Ellenberger is going, is cooperating or is planning on cooperating.
[00:51:26]  He hasn't done anything yet, but he's planning on cooperating and he's going to give up, he's going to give up Aria and several other people.
[00:51:33]  Nason feels really pissed off about that.
[00:51:36]  There's a lot of other stuff.
[00:51:37]  You know, Ellenberger's kind of, at this point, he's just kind of a jerk to everybody.
[00:51:40]  He's, he's always entitlement issues.
[00:51:42]  He's short man complex, the whole thing.
[00:51:44]  Douchebag.
[00:51:45]  Yeah.
[00:51:45]  So he goes, so Nason ends up going to this club where Rossini's dancing with his girl.
[00:51:51]  He comes up, he's like, that motherfucker.
[00:51:53]  I'm gonna fucking beat his ass.
[00:51:54]  He's like, I'm gonna fucking kill this motherfucker.
[00:51:57]  And he's like, Bro, I'm with my girl.
[00:51:58]  What are you doing?
[00:51:59]  He's like, We'll talk about it later.
[00:52:00]  We'll talk about it later.
[00:52:00]  He's like, Fuck this motherfucker.
[00:52:02]  So he leaves.
[00:52:03]  Somebody, I forget who, Alonzo, somebody comes up to him.
[00:52:05]  Another one of the players comes up and says, Hey, man.
[00:52:08]  Nason, he's like, Nason left a while ago.
[00:52:10]  He's like, He said he was going back to the place.
[00:52:11]  And so Rossini is like, You know what?
[00:52:17]  Fuck, I don't want these guys.
[00:52:17]  They've been in fights before.
[00:52:19]  Yeah.
[00:52:19]  Fist fights.
[00:52:20]  So he's like, Fuck.
[00:52:21]  So he goes back.
[00:52:24]  Goes up, goes back to the condo, goes upstairs, goes and finds him, and everything's fine.
[00:52:31]  Nason's there playing a game.
[00:52:33]  Aria's shaving or whatever.
[00:52:34]  Okay, fine.
[00:52:35]  So he leaves, hangs out with his girlfriend the next day.
[00:52:37]  He comes back, walks inside.
[00:52:39]  Wait, wait.
[00:52:39]  Aria's dead.
[00:52:40]  I mean, I'm sorry.
[00:52:42]  Okay.
[00:52:42]  Shit.
[00:52:42]  Ellenberger.
[00:52:43]  Thank you.
[00:52:43]  He goes back to the condo.
[00:52:44]  He goes back to the condo.
[00:52:45]  Ellenberger is there.
[00:52:46]  Everything's fine.
[00:52:47]  Nason's there.
[00:52:48]  Ellenberger's there.
[00:52:48]  Everything's fine.
[00:52:50]  So he says, okay, everything's fine.
[00:52:51]  No sort of confrontation.
[00:52:52]  No confrontation.
[00:52:52]  None.
[00:52:53]  So he leaves.
[00:52:54]  He said, the next day, though, I spend the night with my girl.
[00:52:56]  I come back the next day.
[00:52:57]  I walk in.
[00:52:58]  He said he walks in, Ellenberger's dead.
[00:53:01]  He's laying in the middle of the bedroom, one of the bedrooms, dead.
[00:53:05]  He said his neck was twisted in a way that he could have snapped.
[00:53:09]  As soon as I saw it, it was like he's very unnatural the way he's.
[00:53:11]  I was like, immediately I knew, oh my God, he's dead.
[00:53:14]  He's like, I ran, I tried to fucking wake him up.
[00:53:15]  Are you okay?
[00:53:16]  He's like, but immediately I realized he's dead.
[00:53:18]  Yeah.
[00:53:21]  So he immediately calls Farshione.
[00:53:24]  First thing.
[00:53:25]  First thing calls Farshione because he's got a dead body.
[00:53:29]  His best friend is dead.
[00:53:31]  In his meth lab.
[00:53:33]  I can't call the police.
[00:53:35]  Right.
[00:53:35]  I have a life sentence in meth.
[00:53:38]  Yeah.
[00:53:39]  Right here.
[00:53:39]  Not to mention the money and everything else.
[00:53:41]  Can't call the police.
[00:53:43]  That's not an option.
[00:53:44]  No.
[00:53:44]  So he ends up calling.
[00:53:49]  So he calls Farsione.
[00:53:54]  Farsione apparently said it sounded like he already knew what was going on.
[00:54:00]  Come to find out later, of course.
[00:54:02]  Nason had, he said, Nason says they got into a fight.
[00:54:08]  This is one of many versions Nason has said, by the way.
[00:54:10]  He said they got into a fight and he ended up breaking his neck.
[00:54:16]  He said, but it was probably broken.
[00:54:18]  He said, but he strangled him, snapped his neck.
[00:54:21]  He probably got him in a headlock, snapped his neck, whatever it was.
[00:54:23]  He killed him.
[00:54:24]  So Pete doesn't know what to do.
[00:54:28]  You know, Nason's no fucking help.
[00:54:29]  He's a kid.
[00:54:30]  Yeah.
[00:54:31]  So, but the point is, is that Nason, if you look at all the phone records and you read the phone book, remember, Pete calls him.
[00:54:38]  Nason calls back.
[00:54:40]  He calls Aria.
[00:54:43]  Aria calls Escabozer or someone or Alonzo.
[00:54:47]  Alonzo calls Ellenberger's phone and lets it ring and ring and ring and ring because they're trying to figure out.
[00:54:55]  Yeah, that part was confusing to me.
[00:54:57]  That part was confusing.
[00:54:57]  Yeah, because they're trying to figure out is he really dead?
[00:55:00]  Nason just said he's dead, but we don't know if he's dead.
[00:55:02]  Right.
[00:55:03]  Aria doesn't want to call.
[00:55:05]  So he gets this guy to call.
[00:55:08]  Never answers.
[00:55:09]  So, okay, fine.
[00:55:09]  So in the aftermath, they end up, Pete ends up calling this guy named Harrison, right?
[00:55:22]  What was Harrison's first name?
[00:55:23]  I don't remember how Harrison got into this work.
[00:55:26]  Yeah, well, because he was a drug dealer.
[00:55:28]  Okay.
[00:55:29]  And somebody knows somebody, so he calls Harrison.
[00:55:31]  He said, to be honest, he said, we called a bunch of people.
[00:55:34]  He's like, we called, he said, nobody wanted to help us.
[00:55:37]  Oh, is Harrison one of the guys who got disposed of his body?
[00:55:40]  Yeah.
[00:55:41]  He calls Harrison.
[00:55:41]  Harrison says, I'll come with a couple of guys.
[00:55:43]  It's going to be this much money.
[00:55:45]  I'll get rid of the body.
[00:55:46]  Okay.
[00:55:47]  So they come.
[00:55:47]  They dump Ellenberger's body.
[00:55:49]  Package up the body.
[00:55:51]  They dump the body in a dumpster, and it ends up getting.
[00:55:55]  They never find it.
[00:55:56]  I thought they.
[00:55:56]  No, no.
[00:55:57]  The other guy gets dumped in a dumpster, too.
[00:55:59]  They're both in dumpsters.
[00:56:00]  Yeah, but one guy gets found.
[00:56:01]  One guy doesn't.
[00:56:02]  Los Angeles dumpsters.
[00:56:03]  Yes.
[00:56:03]  You never know.
[00:56:04]  Hit or miss when you're disposing of bodies.
[00:56:06]  You've got a whole bunch of desert out there, but, you know, they're lazy.
[00:56:08]  Yeah.
[00:56:09]  Start in a dumpster.
[00:56:10]  Right.
[00:56:10]  Start in a dumpster.
[00:56:11]  You've got a 50 50 chance that.
[00:56:12]  Yeah, right.
[00:56:13]  They wrap them up in a.
[00:56:14]  What do they wrap them up in?
[00:56:16]  And I wrap them up in a sleeping bag.
[00:56:19]  Sleeping bags.
[00:56:20]  Right.
[00:56:21]  And what's so fucked up is that Pete, like, whenever I would say, Oh shit, I just fucking hit the camera.
[00:56:27]  Yeah, but I don't think you moved it.
[00:56:30]  What's messed up about it is that we would be in the library at Coleman, and Pete and I would be asking questions, and I'd say something like, We'd be arguing back and forth or joking around, and he'd say something, Well, what did your co defendants say about you?
[00:56:48]  And I go, And I go, listen, all my co defendants are alive.
[00:56:52]  And he'd look at me and he'd go, and he'd look at me and he'd go, fuck.
[00:56:56]  He'd go, all I did was help move the body.
[00:56:59]  And I was like, that doesn't.
[00:57:02]  Of course, you got all these other inmates around going, what the fuck did he just say?
[00:57:06]  And I was like, stop fucking saying that.
[00:57:09]  You need to stop saying that.
[00:57:10]  It doesn't help your case.
[00:57:11]  No.
[00:57:12]  You know, it doesn't.
[00:57:13]  That's not the kind of thing that you come off.
[00:57:14]  You can't say that and come off well.
[00:57:16]  No.
[00:57:17]  No, no, no.
[00:57:17]  You know, so he, so anyway, so yeah, we've got phone records of.
[00:57:23]  All of these guys calling each other back and forth, back and forth.
[00:57:27]  Right after they found Ellenberger dead.
[00:57:28]  Right.
[00:57:29]  We got Aria's pager.
[00:57:30]  You have the records of them calling Farshione.
[00:57:34]  Calling Farshione, calling Barrero, where Barrero calls.
[00:57:38]  Do they have a direct line to Barrero?
[00:57:40]  Oh, yeah, you can call it.
[00:57:40]  Pete's directly called the task force.
[00:57:44]  Oh, God.
[00:57:45]  Okay.
[00:57:45]  They talked to him for like five minutes, 10 minutes.
[00:57:48]  So if Barrero's like, oh, I've never spoken to that guy, he's called you five fucking times in the last two weeks.
[00:57:54]  He didn't talk to you for 30 seconds.
[00:57:55]  So we have phone records right after you found your best friend.
[00:57:58]  Fucking crystal meth dealer dead.
[00:58:00]  You called an FBI agent right after that.
[00:58:02]  You have records of that.
[00:58:04]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:58:05]  These are the records.
[00:58:06]  Yeah, see, Arias Pager, Farsione's Pager, Barrero's Pager.
[00:58:11]  But if you keep going, Barrero's office at BE right here.
[00:58:15]  That's these right here.
[00:58:16]  Okay.
[00:58:17]  And they have the duration.
[00:58:18]  This was 12 minutes, 22 minutes.

=== Cold Blooded Murder in Mexico (03:23) ===

[00:58:23]  Anyway, okay.
[00:58:24]  So this goes on and on because the only reason this is important is that basically when the homicides start to get investigated and there's a link.
[00:58:32]  To the actual agents, these guys say, tell the homicide detective, oh, we haven't talked to him in months.
[00:58:39]  No, it's been four or five months.
[00:58:40]  We haven't talked to him since we saw him in Vegas or wherever.
[00:58:44]  Yeah, yeah, no, no.
[00:58:45]  Bullshit, I got phone records.
[00:58:46]  Well, there's a lot of phone records here that say, you know, so.
[00:58:50]  Yeah, that's weird.
[00:58:51]  Phone records.
[00:58:51]  Yeah, super weird.
[00:58:52]  It happens.
[00:58:53]  But keep in mind, too, back then, like, you wouldn't be that stupid now, would you?
[00:58:58]  Because you know immediately, you know, oh, fuck that.
[00:59:00]  They'll grab my phone, they'll do this.
[00:59:01]  They'll just go on the computer and figure it out.
[00:59:03]  But back then, Look at these phone records.
[00:59:05]  That was a process to get those.
[00:59:06]  This is like, you know, dot matrix and shit.
[00:59:10]  They could purge it once it's gone.
[00:59:11]  You know, here nothing's going to be disappeared.
[00:59:14]  So, okay.
[00:59:16]  So, once again, ARIA cell.
[00:59:18]  Okay.
[00:59:18]  So, I'm going to put this aside, too.
[00:59:21]  So, here's what happens is Sydney.
[00:59:26]  Oh, yeah.
[00:59:27]  This is the one.
[00:59:28]  So, after that happened.
[00:59:29]  We're shuffling through documents here.
[00:59:30]  Okay.
[00:59:31]  I'm sorry.
[00:59:31]  No, it's okay.
[00:59:32]  I'm just trying to make the people who are listening and not watching the video so they understand what's going on.
[00:59:35]  Oh, yeah.
[00:59:35]  Yeah.
[00:59:35]  Okay.
[00:59:36]  So, you know, so it.
[00:59:39]  Keep in mind, too, later you're going to realize everybody blames Rossini.
[00:59:43]  First, they all say he shot him.
[00:59:45]  He shot Ellenberger.
[00:59:46]  Ellenberger was never shot.
[00:59:47]  Right.
[00:59:47]  Everybody, even when they eventually get the guy, and all the documents say shot, shot, all the guys are saying, yeah, no, no, he shot.
[00:59:53]  But they never found the body, so how would they know?
[00:59:54]  No, well, because when Nason pleads guilty, he says, I choked him to death.
[00:59:59]  Why would you say that?
[01:00:00]  Nathan said he choked.
[01:00:01]  Nathan says he personally choked him to death.
[01:00:03]  Remember, we know he broke his neck, right?
[01:00:05]  We know he choked him to death.
[01:00:05]  So ultimately, though, I mean, even though everybody points at Rossini when ultimately Nason finally says, Yes, I killed him.
[01:00:13]  They say, okay, well, what'd you shoot him with?
[01:00:15]  Where's the body?
[01:00:16]  He goes, no, I didn't shoot him.
[01:00:17]  I choked him to death.
[01:00:18]  Same thing Rossini's been saying the whole time.
[01:00:20]  He wasn't shot.
[01:00:21]  He was choked to death.
[01:00:22]  So who made up the whole shot?
[01:00:24]  Okay, we're getting to that.
[01:00:25]  Yeah.
[01:00:25]  We're getting there.
[01:00:26]  They're trying to make both the murders look the same, like it's the same person.
[01:00:29]  Got it.
[01:00:29]  Same thing.
[01:00:30]  Got it.
[01:00:32]  So right afterwards, if Rossini shot him and he's this cold blooded murderer, right?
[01:00:37]  That he killed him because he knows he's cooperating.
[01:00:40]  So he killed him.
[01:00:41]  That's what everybody says.
[01:00:42]  He's killed him.
[01:00:43]  He killed him because he's cooperating, and Rossini was afraid he was going to cooperate against him, so he shoots him and gets rid of the body.
[01:00:49]  Well, if that's the case, this woman here, when Pete goes to see Wayne Harrison, right, this is his girlfriend who says that Wayne tells her that Pete had just found his friend dead.
[01:01:06]  And she says specifically that Pete looked very sad, that he looked sad, confused, and, you know, He has to talk to Wayne alone.
[01:01:15]  And then Wayne came back and told her he just found his best friend dead.
[01:01:20]  I got to get rid of the body.
[01:01:23]  So if Pete says cold blooded murder, he walks in there practically in tears because he just found his best friend dead.
[01:01:29]  Wow.
[01:01:30]  So after he finds him dead, and he calls Farshione, what plays out after that?
[01:01:38]  What comes after that?
[01:01:39]  Everybody starts saying that he went to Mexico.
[01:01:43]  I don't think I really mentioned that.
[01:01:44]  They say that Ellenberger went to Mexico.

=== Lance Estes Killed in Dispute (12:19) ===

[01:01:46]  Ellenberger went to Mexico.
[01:01:46]  So, whenever somebody asks, they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, no, he's cool.
[01:01:49]  He's down in Mexico.
[01:01:50]  He's in Mexico.
[01:01:51]  Everybody's saying Mexico.
[01:01:52]  Keep in mind, too, your family starts looking for you.
[01:01:56]  Right, right.
[01:01:56]  But there's no body.
[01:01:58]  Right.
[01:01:58]  And this is a guy who would take off to Brazil, which he'd done with Pete.
[01:02:03]  I have pictures of them in Brazil.
[01:02:04]  You know, he goes because Pete's Brazilian.
[01:02:07]  So they would go to Brazil and be there for two or three weeks.
[01:02:10]  And, you know, these are not guys that are keeping in touch with anybody.
[01:02:12]  You know, they're just doing whatever they wanted.
[01:02:14]  They're living, they got a ton of money.
[01:02:15]  Right.
[01:02:16]  You know, they're risk taking.
[01:02:17]  Whenever they want.
[01:02:17]  Right.
[01:02:18]  So, this is a guy that Pete says.
[01:02:22]  This guy, Sidney Berman, says that he knew Pete.
[01:02:27]  He knew Rossini, and Rossini had told him if he ever got in trouble, he knew a dirty FBI agent.
[01:02:32]  Told him that he had ripped him off to go that took dope and money and let him go.
[01:02:41]  He stated that Rossini said that the federal agent could get a list of informants.
[01:02:50]  Uh, that the agent was crooked and would do it for money.
[01:02:55]  And this is a guy, keep in mind, he's not in trouble, he's just young guys shooting the shit.
[01:03:01]  Yeah, man, I know a different guy, I know an agent, he'll check that guy out for you.
[01:03:05]  Give me the number.
[01:03:05]  He makes a fucking phone call.
[01:03:06]  Boom, boom, boom.
[01:03:08]  Give me a couple grand.
[01:03:08]  Yeah, he's good.
[01:03:09]  You can deal with him.
[01:03:11]  So, this is just dirty agents.
[01:03:13]  Well, the only reason I keep harping on it is because later the government's like, it's all bullshit.
[01:03:20]  No, no, they're not dirty agents.
[01:03:21]  No, it's all bullshit.
[01:03:23]  It's not true.
[01:03:24]  Okay.
[01:03:25]  There's a lot of paperwork that people say otherwise.
[01:03:27]  Yeah, a lot of paperwork says otherwise.
[01:03:28]  A lot of guys walking out of jail, a lot of cases getting busted, a lot of.
[01:03:31]  And why is Pete telling everybody this guy ripped me off and stole all my fucking money?
[01:03:34]  Check Brero's bank account.
[01:03:35]  Right.
[01:03:37]  So at some point, he starts dealing with another guy named Lance Estes.
[01:03:41]  Okay.
[01:03:41]  All right.
[01:03:42]  And who is Lance Estes?
[01:03:43]  He's a drug dealer out of San Francisco.
[01:03:46]  Okay.
[01:03:47]  So, you know, Estes works out all the time.
[01:03:51]  He's a big guy, good looking guy.
[01:03:52]  They're all fucking good looking guys.
[01:03:54]  They're all driving Porsches and Ferraris.
[01:03:55]  And it's ridiculous the amount of money.
[01:03:57]  I mean, they're superstars, they're all rock stars, they're all working out.
[01:04:00]  It's like, what would you do if you were making $100,000 a month and had nothing to do and tons of drugs and women?
[01:04:07]  Yeah.
[01:04:07]  A maniac.
[01:04:09]  So these guys are maniacs.
[01:04:10]  Let alone you're in your early 20s.
[01:04:12]  Right.
[01:04:13]  So these guys are maniacs.
[01:04:14]  So he explains what ends up happening is Lance Estes is dealing with Rossini and he ends up getting busted.
[01:04:23]  He and his best friend get busted by the local task force.
[01:04:28]  Well, when they get busted, they've heard about, they know Rossini, they've heard about this dirty agent.
[01:04:36]  So they contact him and Pete says to him, look, he can get rid of your case for $100,000.
[01:04:42]  So Lance is cocky and Estes is cocky and he's like, I'll give you $50,000 up front, but I want to meet this motherfucker.
[01:04:49]  He's a fucking tough guy.
[01:04:50]  So they go and they meet and he meets him and he meets Farsione and Barrero's across the street.
[01:04:57]  It's never confirmed that Barrero's across the street, but we know from several different reports that there was a guy, there was an FBI, there was someone across the street.
[01:05:06]  We assume it's Barrero.
[01:05:07]  Yeah.
[01:05:08]  So he ends up telling him, he ends up.
[01:05:12]  Pulling a gun on Estes because Estes kind of gets in his face and he pulls out his badge and sticks a gun in his face.
[01:05:17]  He goes, Motherfucker, he said, I'll put a bullet in you right now and I'll put this piece on you.
[01:05:21]  He goes, You see my partner over there?
[01:05:22]  He'll say he saw the whole thing.
[01:05:24]  You pulled it on me and I fucking killed you.
[01:05:26]  He's now back your fucking ass up.
[01:05:27]  So he's like, Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[01:05:29]  So he realizes, Okay, he's definitely an agent.
[01:05:30]  Got this guy over here.
[01:05:31]  He's got this.
[01:05:32]  He's got the badge.
[01:05:33]  He's, I'm done.
[01:05:34]  He's like, This guy's for real.
[01:05:36]  So they set up a time.
[01:05:37]  They give him 50.
[01:05:38]  They meet at a hotel or a motel.
[01:05:40]  They meet at a motel, give him $50,000.
[01:05:43]  He gets a room here.
[01:05:44]  He gets a room here.
[01:05:45]  They meet here.
[01:05:45]  They come down.
[01:05:47]  It's a whole fucking spy thing.
[01:05:50]  So they give him $50,000.
[01:05:52]  And these are reports of the guys talking about how Lance told him that he had given $50,000 in cash to Rossini and that the money was a down payment and was going to blah, blah.
[01:06:06]  So this is him telling one of his buddies, I gave Rossini the money to down payment to get my case quashed.
[01:06:13]  So we're good.
[01:06:15]  I just paid $50,000 down.
[01:06:16]  We're going to get it taken care of.
[01:06:18]  What he doesn't realize is that the guy he's telling, which is his best friend, has already gone to the authorities and said, I know we're supposed to be working with you, but my buddy's still selling drugs and he's now dealing with that dirty FBI agent.
[01:06:31]  He's now double crossed him.
[01:06:33]  Yeah.
[01:06:35]  So now the authorities are like, whoa, you double crossed this, but you're in bed with an FBI or some FBI agent you just gave $50,000 to.
[01:06:44]  So that helps.
[01:06:46]  So.
[01:06:48]  So, did he get his case squashed?
[01:06:49]  Did he end up paying him the full 100 grand and getting that whole thing taken care of?
[01:06:52]  He does give him 100 grand, but what ends up happening is I mentioned that Lance with this.
[01:06:57]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:06:59]  This is his girlfriend, by the way.
[01:07:02]  So, this is Lance Estee's girlfriend, which is Monica Trejo.
[01:07:08]  Okay.
[01:07:08]  And she tells a grand jury later you mentioned that Lance had met with this supposed FBI agent or whatever to get him off, and he was convinced by credentials.
[01:07:24]  And she says, By credentials, did he see a badge?
[01:07:28]  And she says, Yeah, he saw a badge.
[01:07:30]  Okay.
[01:07:31]  Boom.
[01:07:32]  Gave him the money, got the money.
[01:07:34]  There's a dispute with Estes.
[01:07:36]  I'll try and start wrapping.
[01:07:37]  I'll try and get really start cutting through it.
[01:07:39]  Yeah, there's a dispute with Estes.
[01:07:41]  Okay, between Farcion and Estes Estes basically tries to back out.
[01:07:44]  I want my money back.
[01:07:45]  You're out of your fucking mind.
[01:07:46]  Yeah, so they go back and forth back and forth Well, what happens is Estes ends up going to the police or and ends up basically saying That he's considering he finds out because his the other guy told the agents that he's working with a dirty FBI agent It filters down to Barrero and Farcione that Estes has told somebody and they know he's dealing with it.
[01:08:14]  He just gave somebody 50 grand for a dirty agent.
[01:08:17]  So fuck.
[01:08:17]  So they say the deal's off.
[01:08:19]  They get into a huge argument.
[01:08:21]  Rossini puts it back together.
[01:08:23]  He says, okay, now it's another $100,000.
[01:08:26]  So give him 50.
[01:08:27]  He's like, okay, so I think he gives him another 50.
[01:08:29]  And then he's going to give him the last 50.
[01:08:33]  So there's a huge dispute where they have a meeting.
[01:08:37]  And Rossini's at the meeting.
[01:08:40]  Harrison's at the meeting.
[01:08:43]  Farcione shows up.
[01:08:46]  Harrison's saying, let's just kill this guy.
[01:08:48]  Farcione says.
[01:08:50]  Talking about who?
[01:08:51]  Let's just kill him.
[01:08:51]  Talking about Estes.
[01:08:52]  He's saying, let's just kill him.
[01:08:53]  Because he's now talking about testifying against Farcione and Barrero.
[01:08:59]  So he basically says, let's just kill him.
[01:09:02]  And Rossini's trying to talk him out of it.
[01:09:04]  He goes to Farcione.
[01:09:05]  Farcione says, okay, kill him.
[01:09:09]  If he doesn't bring the money, kill him.
[01:09:12]  But don't kill him in San Francisco because he lives in San Francisco.
[01:09:16]  Kill him here because Harrison's talking about going to San Francisco, going to his house, killing him and killing his girlfriend if she's there.
[01:09:24]  Rossini's saying, because Rossini's like, what if his girlfriend's there?
[01:09:26]  And he's like, well, she has to die too.
[01:09:27]  He's like, nah, nah.
[01:09:28]  And Farsione goes, no, no, no.
[01:09:30]  Bring him up here.
[01:09:31]  If he doesn't have the money, kill him.
[01:09:34]  Because if he doesn't bring the cash, kill him.
[01:09:35]  Okay, fine.
[01:09:36]  No problem.
[01:09:37]  So he flies up.
[01:09:40]  He shows up.
[01:09:41]  He flies down from San Francisco to LA.
[01:09:43]  Yeah, from San Francisco to LA.
[01:09:45]  They're all going to meet.
[01:09:46]  He's supposed to bring the money.
[01:09:47]  He says he's got the money.
[01:09:48]  Pete thinks he's got the money.
[01:09:49]  Rossini thinks he's got the money.
[01:09:51]  Rossini is saying he's got the money.
[01:09:52]  Everything's going to be okay.
[01:09:53]  He's going to give him the money.
[01:09:54]  It's good.
[01:09:55]  He gets there.
[01:09:58]  They pick him up.
[01:10:00]  Wayne picks him up.
[01:10:01]  They walk inside.
[01:10:03]  Everything seems like it's going to be okay.
[01:10:05]  He walks into the kitchen.
[01:10:06]  Wayne pulls a pistol out and shoots him in the back of the head.
[01:10:09]  Boom.
[01:10:09]  Estes is dead.
[01:10:10]  Estes is dead.
[01:10:12]  Now, right before they killed him, wasn't there something about 86?
[01:10:15]  Code word 86?
[01:10:16]  They send a code back.
[01:10:18]  So they page, like the guys in the house get pages saying 8686 on their pagers, which, you know, to 86 to kill him.
[01:10:26]  Get rid of him.
[01:10:27]  So the one guy goes and starts up the motorcycle, starts revving the motorcycle.
[01:10:34]  So nobody's going to hear the.
[01:10:35]  So when they were.
[01:10:36]  Why did they send the 86?
[01:10:37]  Because they realized he didn't have the $50,000 in cash.
[01:10:40]  Right.
[01:10:41]  He's got a cashier's check.
[01:10:42]  He brings a fucking cashier's check.
[01:10:44]  But they didn't see.
[01:10:45]  Cash so they figured he doesn't have the money.
[01:10:47]  So let's kill him.
[01:10:47]  No, they see a cashier's check, but they need cash But they didn't find the cashier's check till after he was dead, right?
[01:10:53]  He tells them in the car.
[01:10:54]  Oh, he does.
[01:10:55]  Okay.
[01:10:56]  I thought it was only after he was dead.
[01:10:57]  No, right then he knows, Harrison knows, okay, well, he's got to die.
[01:11:03]  Yeah.
[01:11:03]  We got to kill him.
[01:11:04]  So that's when he pages these guys, 86.
[01:11:06]  I'm coming and we're going to kill him.
[01:11:08]  Well, Pete actually goes in the garage.
[01:11:10]  I actually have a report from one guy who says after they got the 86s that Pete went and hid in the garage.
[01:11:18]  You know, so he's kind of like making fun of them.
[01:11:21]  So anyway, he ends up shooting him in the head.
[01:11:25]  In the back of the head, right?
[01:11:26]  Back of the head.
[01:11:27]  Spinning over to like, I don't know, get to something.
[01:11:29]  Refrigerator or something.
[01:11:30]  I think Pete said he shot him in the back of the head.
[01:11:32]  So they wrap him up in the sleeping bag.
[01:11:36]  Keep in mind, they, Farshione said, don't let him find the body.
[01:11:39]  Don't let him find the body.
[01:11:41]  Get the 50 grand.
[01:11:41]  Don't let, and if they kill him, you know, if it doesn't have it, then kill him and don't, don't kill him in San Francisco and don't let anybody find the body.
[01:11:49]  Cause it works out pretty good if they don't find the body.
[01:11:51]  Then he could just, he could be anybody.
[01:11:52]  He could be taken off.
[01:11:53]  Right.
[01:11:54]  We don't know.
[01:11:55]  So, so yeah, they wrap him up.
[01:11:59]  They throw him in a dumpster.
[01:12:02]  And a homeless guy finds him like the next day or something.
[01:12:06]  And so now the detectives come in.
[01:12:09]  And, you know, there's a huge difference between a regular cop and a detective.
[01:12:14]  So a homicide detective is the elite.
[01:12:17]  You know, they're methodical.
[01:12:19]  You know, you might want they're trying to solve the murder for real.
[01:12:22]  They're for real.
[01:12:23]  And nothing else matters.
[01:12:24]  Right.
[01:12:25]  So they don't care who it is.
[01:12:26]  I don't care if you sell drugs.
[01:12:28]  I don't care if you're a credit card count.
[01:12:29]  I'm not going to fucking bust you for any of that.
[01:12:31]  That means nothing.
[01:12:33]  Right.
[01:12:33]  Everybody gets a pass when it comes to murder.
[01:12:35]  Just help me.
[01:12:37]  So they come in.
[01:12:41]  This is the Estes murder.
[01:12:43]  Okay.
[01:12:44]  Lance Estes was arrested.
[01:12:47]  So this is, remember, Lance was arrested.
[01:12:49]  He agreed to cooperate.
[01:12:51]  Okay.
[01:12:52]  Remember, we talked about that.
[01:12:52]  So remember, Lance, this is him being arrested and then the government saying Estes.
[01:12:57]  Estes saying he got arrested and he was going to cooperate.
[01:13:01]  This is Michael Estes who talks about how.
[01:13:07]  That's his brother.
[01:13:08]  This is his brother.
[01:13:09]  Okay.
[01:13:10]  Who also talks about him being arrested and him.
[01:13:13]  He was dealing with a guy.
[01:13:14]  He was dealing with someone named Blum.
[01:13:16]  He was dealing with an agent who was dealing with Blum.
[01:13:19]  Blum's the other guy I told you he's above Barrero.
[01:13:21]  Right.
[01:13:22]  He's another guy like Barrero in a different jurisdiction.
[01:13:24]  Okay.
[01:13:25]  So, another FBI agent who's giving information, supposedly, right?
[01:13:29]  I mean, based on all this stuff.
[01:13:31]  So, he ends up getting killed.
[01:13:32]  His body's disposed of.
[01:13:35]  It's over.
[01:13:36]  He's gone.
[01:13:38]  So.
[01:13:39]  What do we got here?
[01:13:39]  I got a bunch of documents.
[01:13:41]  They're just kind of random.
[01:13:42]  I'll just go through them real quick.
[01:13:44]  So eventually, Pete ends up getting busted.
[01:13:48]  He gets arrested for something stupid.
[01:13:50]  And before they can get him out of jail, before Farshione and Barrera can get him out of jail, he gets ID'd and Agent Alapa flies in from Hawaii and tries to interview him.

=== Calls to Everybody and Attorney (02:52) ===

[01:14:06]  And so she tries to interview him and Rossini states to the Agent Alapa that, He had nothing to say to her.
[01:14:15]  He wasn't going to speak to the government.
[01:14:19]  He was certain that Farshian was going to take care of him.
[01:14:21]  He was 100% sure.
[01:14:21]  Keep in mind, they show up first.
[01:14:23]  If you're smart and you're guilty and you're looking at a lot of time, you better cooperate.
[01:14:30]  You're not beating this in trial.
[01:14:32]  Not with these kinds of numbers, not with these kinds of people, not with this amount of people.
[01:14:36]  Everybody around him is getting busted.
[01:14:38]  He's been indicted in multiple jurisdictions.
[01:14:40]  You're just done.
[01:14:41]  You better expect to fucking either die in prison or come out when you're in your 60s.
[01:14:44]  Yeah.
[01:14:45]  So.
[01:14:45]  or you cooperate.
[01:14:48]  He tells her basically, kiss my ass, I'm good.
[01:14:51]  Because he knows.
[01:14:53]  He's got to get on Jefferson.
[01:14:53]  He's got all them guys.
[01:14:54]  My boys are going to get me out.
[01:14:55]  Right.
[01:14:56]  They always do.
[01:14:56]  He cost me $100,000.
[01:14:57]  I'm sitting on millions in cash.
[01:14:59]  I'm good.
[01:15:00]  I'm good.
[01:15:02]  So a lot of time goes by.
[01:15:03]  Kick rocks, lady.
[01:15:04]  Yeah.
[01:15:04]  Some time goes by.
[01:15:06]  And he's getting phone calls from Reza.
[01:15:09]  He's getting calls from Aria.
[01:15:11]  He's talking to guys on the phone.
[01:15:13]  I don't know if it's Aria he was talking to.
[01:15:14]  Was it Reza?
[01:15:15]  He's talking to people on the phone.
[01:15:16]  The people are answering his phone calls.
[01:15:18]  And everybody's telling him, hang tight.
[01:15:19]  They're working on it.
[01:15:20]  They're working on it.
[01:15:21]  Well, eventually, he comes to the conclusion after a few months.
[01:15:24]  Yeah.
[01:15:24]  Nobody's working on it.
[01:15:25]  Nobody's working on it.
[01:15:26]  Yeah.
[01:15:28]  He gets a new attorney who comes in.
[01:15:29]  He tells the attorney, He tells the attorney what's going on, but so he's like, Just hold it off.
[01:15:34]  I'm gonna get this whole thing quashed.
[01:15:35]  The new attorney's like, Are you crazy?
[01:15:37]  Yeah, what do you mean you got dirty agents?
[01:15:39]  He's like, Let me go tell the U.S. attorney.
[01:15:40]  He's like, No, no, no, they're gonna get this whole thing quashed.
[01:15:42]  I've been, they've got me knocked out of jail, they've had me released a couple of times now.
[01:15:47]  I'm good, they have my buddy let go.
[01:15:49]  I'm here, I'm good.
[01:15:51]  They're like, You're crazy.
[01:15:52]  Well, weeks and weeks and weeks and months go by, and he starts to realize, Oh, I'm done.
[01:15:57]  Yeah, so he says, So finally, he comes to the conclusion, Okay.
[01:16:04]  I got a real problem here.
[01:16:05]  Nobody is answering his phone anymore, by the way.
[01:16:08]  They stop answering his phone.
[01:16:10]  So when everybody stops answering your phone, he gets a little desperate.
[01:16:13]  So he gets a little flipped out and he's like, fuck.
[01:16:16]  He realizes he's done.
[01:16:18]  Other guys are getting busted.
[01:16:20]  Guys are coming in the prison, in there.
[01:16:23]  So he says, okay, fuck it.
[01:16:26]  And he contacts his attorney and says, okay, I'll cooperate.
[01:16:31]  I can cooperate against some dirty FBI agents.
[01:16:36]  Well, they come in and they say, No, we're not.
[01:16:40]  We're not an issue.
[01:16:41]  You could plead to a life sentence.
[01:16:43]  And that's it.
[01:16:44]  He said, and then we'll talk about it.
[01:16:46]  He's like, oh, you're crazy.
[01:16:47]  What happens is it filters down through all the U.S. attorneys and everything to Barrero and Farsione.
[01:16:53]  And Farsione finds out and Barrero find out that he's talking about cooperating against dirty law enforcement.

=== Harrison Killed by Three Cousins (14:26) ===

[01:16:58]  So Farsione calls everybody together.
[01:17:01]  He calls, you know, these guys that I'm trying not to use too many names.
[01:17:05]  Everybody.
[01:17:05]  Everybody.
[01:17:06]  Meachum.
[01:17:07]  He calls this guy.
[01:17:07]  He calls that guy.
[01:17:08]  So whoa, whoa, whoa.
[01:17:10]  He calls everybody together and they all meet Harrison.
[01:17:13]  They all meet.
[01:17:14]  Everybody involved.
[01:17:15]  Nason.
[01:17:15]  Even Nason, who killed Ellenberger.
[01:17:17]  Killed Ellenberger.
[01:17:19]  Harrison killed Estes.
[01:17:21]  Nason killed Ellenberger.
[01:17:22]  Calls everybody together, the whole crew.
[01:17:26]  Family powwow.
[01:17:27]  Right.
[01:17:29]  All right.
[01:17:30]  This is John Alonso talking about how, well, wait, you know what?
[01:17:35]  Is it better?
[01:17:36]  It's better like this because this is the one.
[01:17:42]  Okay.
[01:17:43]  He meets at his girlfriend's house, right?
[01:17:45]  His girlfriend's name is Odalis Melendez.
[01:17:49]  So everybody meets there.
[01:17:51]  She's in her bedroom while these guys are all meeting.
[01:17:54]  There's several meetings, but there's one meeting in particular she talks about where she talks about how everybody got together.
[01:18:00]  She also knows everybody except for this one guy named John something, another friend of Rossini's in L.A.
[01:18:09]  She says he's from Beverly Hills.
[01:18:13]  Well, Pete says it's got to be Aria.
[01:18:15]  It's the only guy he knew that was a friend that lived in that area.
[01:18:18]  So he's like, he probably came in and just said his name is Sean.
[01:18:21]  He goes, but he's assuming that's Aria.
[01:18:23]  So, right?
[01:18:24]  LA near Beverly Hills.
[01:18:26]  So, and this is Alonzo.
[01:18:29]  So she's got, she names all these guys and she can hear them discussing Rossini.
[01:18:36]  She hears them talking about Rossini.
[01:18:38]  So they're talking about, like, well, how do you think Rossini killed these guys?
[01:18:42]  Keep in mind the two guys that actually killed him are in the room.
[01:18:45]  So she's not quite hearing, she's hearing bits and pieces.
[01:18:50]  Well, when they leave there, by the way, one of the people that shows up, I told you, is Farshon.
[01:18:54]  Farshione shows up.
[01:18:56]  He has his little meeting.
[01:18:57]  And in the meeting, this is exhibit 50.
[01:19:02]  By the end of that meeting, everybody has agreed that Rossini committed the murders.
[01:19:13]  He killed both guys.
[01:19:15]  So Farshione goes in and says there are homicide detectives investigating.
[01:19:20]  They're wanting to talk to people.
[01:19:22]  They're going to be talking to you guys.
[01:19:23]  They're going to find you.
[01:19:24]  They're going to talk to you.
[01:19:24]  When they do, you just need to tell them.
[01:19:28]  Rossini, you don't have to tell them that you necessarily saw it, but Rossini or you heard or whatever.
[01:19:33]  We need to point to Rossini.
[01:19:35]  He's right now trying to get us fucked up.
[01:19:37]  We get fucked up.
[01:19:38]  I guarantee you, you guys are all getting life sentences.
[01:19:41]  Yeah.
[01:19:41]  Keep in mind, they still think he's an FBI agent.
[01:19:44]  So we're telling you right now, Rossini shot him.
[01:19:48]  That's what happened.
[01:19:49]  He shot him.
[01:19:50]  He helped dispose the body.
[01:19:51]  He shot him, disposed the body.
[01:19:52]  That's what you're going to go with.
[01:19:53]  They said, okay, cool.
[01:19:54]  So everybody says, okay.
[01:19:55]  So immediately when these guys get interviewed, They immediately all start saying that.
[01:20:06]  Keep in mind, Pete didn't have a gun.
[01:20:08]  Pete said, I've never had.
[01:20:09]  He goes, I had a gun one time.
[01:20:11]  He's like, it was like a, you know, you see, like I'm saying, he's like, he's not a gun guy.
[01:20:15]  He is at that level dealing with those guys.
[01:20:17]  You don't really bring guns.
[01:20:19]  When you show up with 50 kilos of ice or something, you don't bring a gun because you're just in that much more trouble.
[01:20:25]  You're probably already dead.
[01:20:28]  You don't deal with people that you need to bring a gun.
[01:20:29]  Right.
[01:20:30]  So, anyway, this guy talks about how.
[01:20:35]  He heard rumors that Pete killed him, that the guy owed him money.
[01:20:39]  So Pete killed him.
[01:20:40]  What kind of gun did Pete have?
[01:20:41]  Did Pete have a gun?
[01:20:42]  Yeah, yeah, Pete had a gun.
[01:20:44]  Pete had a 9mm, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[01:20:47]  Okay, so he talks about that.
[01:20:49]  This is one guy.
[01:20:50]  This is Alonzo says that.
[01:20:53]  Let's see.
[01:20:55]  This is.
[01:20:56]  So then eventually, and I'm going to fast forward this because.
[01:21:01]  Oh, yeah, so this guy, Odessa Melinda, she says again that.
[01:21:06]  Harrison said that he had dealt with the cleanup of the body.
[01:21:10]  He admits that he cleaned up, but he says Rossini killed him.
[01:21:15]  Like, why and at what point did they go to law enforcement and say that Pete killed these people?
[01:21:19]  They didn't go.
[01:21:20]  They know that law enforcement is showing up.
[01:21:22]  At some point, homicide detectives are leaving cards on your.
[01:21:26]  You come home one day, they're sitting outside your house.
[01:21:28]  They start getting picked up.
[01:21:30]  Mainly about Estes.
[01:21:32]  Right, about Estes.
[01:21:34]  No one knew what happened to Ellenberger.
[01:21:35]  Well, they kind of know, but they don't know.
[01:21:37]  It's just rumors.
[01:21:38]  They found the body of Estes, so that's.
[01:21:40]  So this guy here says, he says that Ellenberger, they called Ellenberger Beetle, by the way.
[01:21:46]  So he says, you know, Beetle in Beetle's room.
[01:21:49]  He says that he, after, you know, Pete killed him, he saw the bloodstains.
[01:21:56]  There was no bloodstains.
[01:21:57]  He had his neck broken.
[01:21:59]  Right.
[01:21:59]  So there was a huge pool of blood from the gunshot wound that didn't actually happen.
[01:22:06]  So, okay, so all these guys start failing polygraphs.
[01:22:11]  By the way, yeah, so the story's falling apart, right?
[01:22:15]  Harrison, Harrison, who shot Estes, says that that you know, um, that Pete did it, Pete did it, gunshot wound, uh, you know, in the head.
[01:22:26]  This is a footnote, is that 70 87 and 70 talk about it.
[01:22:31]  Uh, so I mean, see, the thing is that I like I could go on and on and on anyway.
[01:22:37]  So eventually, what happens is Nason, uh, did I mention to?
[01:22:42]  So remember how I told you Nason gave several stories?
[01:22:45]  Yeah.
[01:22:45]  And this is where potentially Arya shows up because what happens is Nason says that Arya gave him $30,000 and Nason leaves town.
[01:22:56]  He gets caught in Florida somewhere.
[01:22:59]  I was getting caught in Florida.
[01:23:01]  So, it's a place to go.
[01:23:03]  I left Florida.
[01:23:05]  So, he says that Arya gave him $30,000.
[01:23:11]  This is like the day after he killed Ellenberger.
[01:23:16]  So, he gets $30,000.
[01:23:19]  Well,.
[01:23:20]  One of the things he also does is when he takes off, he starts telling, he meets a bunch of girls, several girls.
[01:23:28]  There's three of them.
[01:23:30]  I only printed out two of these.
[01:23:31]  He tells the girls, they're like, oh, so what do you do for a living?
[01:23:33]  He tells them, I'm a hitman.
[01:23:35]  I kill people.
[01:23:37]  Well, you kill people?
[01:23:38]  Keep in mind, he's like 20, 22 years old.
[01:23:40]  He's just this fucking idiot.
[01:23:41]  So he's bragging about being a hitman.
[01:23:44]  This is these girls saying that Nason told her he killed someone for $30,000.
[01:23:54]  This one here, she doesn't say, I don't think she says how much he got, but did say when she said, What are you doing for a limit?
[01:24:01]  He joked about being a hitman.
[01:24:04]  How are you making money?
[01:24:05]  He said, I'm killing people.
[01:24:08]  So, fucking douchebag.
[01:24:11]  I'm an idiot.
[01:24:12]  So, yeah, she says here too, he was paid to commit a murder.
[01:24:16]  So, he's telling people he's killing people.
[01:24:18]  Now, he later says, He also told, but Pete said, The only thing he ever told me, Pete says, is that they got into an argument and he choked them out.
[01:24:28]  And he ended up breaking his neck.
[01:24:29]  Pete had no clue he was paid to do it.
[01:24:31]  Yeah.
[01:24:31]  Pete's like, I didn't find out later till stuff starts coming out that people are saying he's telling them he killed the guy.
[01:24:37]  He's like, I didn't know that Arya gave him $30,000.
[01:24:40]  I didn't know he told these girls that he got paid $30,000 to kill him.
[01:24:44]  Yeah.
[01:24:44]  He goes, I didn't know any of that.
[01:24:46]  He's like, I found that out later just as people are filing motions and things.
[01:24:50]  Here's the thing also keep in mind, Pete's in prison now thinking I'm really in a bad spot.
[01:24:55]  Yeah.
[01:24:56]  Government doesn't want to work with me.
[01:24:58]  Everybody's.
[01:24:59]  No one's bailing him out.
[01:25:00]  Nobody's bailing me out.
[01:25:01]  Nobody's answering my phone calls.
[01:25:02]  Guys that I know are getting arrested and showing up here in the jail with me, that are on the conspiracies with me.
[01:25:08]  We're all staring at each other.
[01:25:09]  Who's going to cooperate?
[01:25:11]  Everybody's saying the same thing.
[01:25:13]  Oh, I'm fucked out.
[01:25:13]  I'm staying strong, bro.
[01:25:15]  Fuck them.
[01:25:16]  Everybody's singing them.
[01:25:17]  You see your lawyer a lot.
[01:25:19]  You keep going and leaving to see your lawyer.
[01:25:24]  So eventually, what ends up happening is this.
[01:25:28]  Ultimately, Nathan ends up filing some paperwork.
[01:25:30]  And in the paperwork, Pete gets the paperwork.
[01:25:33]  You have to understand when you, you know, the cases are long, so you learn things slowly.
[01:25:38]  People aren't talking to each other, but as you can, if I can read your paperwork, it helps give insight into what happened in my case.
[01:25:43]  So Nason eventually files paperwork where he explains about getting paid $30,000 from ARIA.
[01:25:53]  He says for a drug transaction.
[01:25:55]  Pete says that's not possible because we were the ones who were supplying all the drugs.
[01:25:58]  I wouldn't know if he was selling drugs, but whatever.
[01:26:01]  The other thing is.
[01:26:03]  He says that he was called to a meeting at Wayne Harris' girlfriend's house named Odalis Melendez, and that there was a whole bunch of people there, and he names them off John Alonso, this guy,
[01:26:18]  Dean Zurek or something, George Murzek, Mark Farcione was there, Wayne Harrison, a bunch of guys were there, and that he says specifically, Farcione said that Rossini was cooperating.
[01:26:34]  He was an ungrateful bastard, I think.
[01:26:36]  Somewhere they say this.
[01:26:38]  And that they need to put the murders off on him.
[01:26:44]  And Nason came there with three of his cousins.
[01:26:49]  He shows up with his three cousins.
[01:26:51]  So they're all there while this discussion's going on.
[01:26:53]  And Mark Farcione tells them that they have to put everything off on Rossini.
[01:26:58]  Rossini killed him.
[01:26:59]  Rossini shot him in the head, blah, blah, blah.
[01:27:02]  Tells them all the same thing that Melendez says.
[01:27:04]  Same thing other guys say.
[01:27:05]  There were multiple meetings.
[01:27:07]  And Nason gets so upset about it, he doesn't like the idea of frame.
[01:27:13]  Remember, he didn't like the cooperation thing either.
[01:27:15]  He didn't like Ellen Berger was cooperating.
[01:27:16]  Yeah.
[01:27:17]  He doesn't like the fact that now these guys are saying, we're going to put it off on Rossini when he knows Rossini didn't do it.
[01:27:22]  But they're saying, look, you too, though.
[01:27:24]  That gets you off.
[01:27:25]  This guy's too honest.
[01:27:28]  He's the opposite of a shrinker.
[01:27:30]  Yeah, he's the kind of guy that ends up doing 25 years for being so honest.
[01:27:34]  So, John Ellenberger, FBI, Farshion, grand jury, blah, blah.
[01:27:39]  So, in this is when he talks, in his 2255, he talks about how he was brought in and told this, and he didn't like the idea of it at all.
[01:27:48]  And so he takes his $30,000 and he takes off.
[01:27:51]  When he takes off, that's, you know, he takes off, he eventually gets caught.
[01:27:56]  Well, so this is him saying, so we've got multiple people.
[01:27:59]  There's also several other people who say these meetings that occurred, that all these guys got together and they all decided Rossini did it.
[01:28:05]  He shot them.
[01:28:07]  So that goes on and on.
[01:28:11]  This is a copy of his three cousins who were there Scott, Scott, and Armadio.
[01:28:21]  And they all give affidavits which say the same thing that they were at the meeting.
[01:28:24]  Whose three cousins?
[01:28:26]  Nason's three cousins were there.
[01:28:27]  And they say they were at the meeting with all of this group of guys and they were discussing their legal strategies and what was happening and about some guy who had basically killed somebody and that he had shot them all.
[01:28:37]  So they don't really quite know what's going on.
[01:28:39]  Just we were there.
[01:28:40]  This is what happened.
[01:28:41]  The FBI agent was there.
[01:28:43]  By the way, this is when Robert Mueller comes into the picture.
[01:28:46]  Okay.
[01:28:46]  So Mueller, there was something called there was a Supreacher Prong.
[01:28:51]  There was this guy that ends up, there's a There's a whole thing about dirty agents in this office.
[01:28:59]  So Mueller comes in to kind of clean up the office.
[01:29:03]  The Department of Justice says, Look, Mueller, we're going to send you over there to clean it up.
[01:29:08]  So Mueller comes in, he fires a bunch of people.
[01:29:10]  Now, meanwhile, yeah, because there are multiple cases like this going on where there are dirty agents.
[01:29:15]  Throughout the whole United States, but even in this area, in his jurisdiction.
[01:29:19]  Okay.
[01:29:19]  But they're in New York.
[01:29:21]  Whitey Bulger is happening at this time.
[01:29:24]  Whitey Bulger's.
[01:29:25]  Bribing an FBI agent, I think Agent Connolly or something like that.
[01:29:28]  So, you know, there's all this is happening in multiple jurisdictions, the Department of Justice.
[01:29:33]  And this is during Mueller's reign.
[01:29:35]  The whole Whitey Bulger thing is during.
[01:29:37]  That's also during.
[01:29:38]  That was all investigated by Mueller.
[01:29:40]  Mueller was one of the assistant U.S. attorneys, or one of the.
[01:29:44]  He was in charge of the task force, one of the task force that was investigating.
[01:29:48]  Okay.
[01:29:49]  Bulger.
[01:29:49]  So he was involved in that, but, you know, he's way up here.
[01:29:53]  He just happened to be one of the many guys in the chain.
[01:29:55]  I don't think he necessarily had anything super to do with it.
[01:29:58]  There were allegations, but, you know, there.
[01:30:00]  Who knows?
[01:30:00]  Right.
[01:30:01]  Listen, I can only solve one thing at a time.
[01:30:04]  Yeah.
[01:30:04]  So, what ends up happening is let's eat this elephant one spoon at a time.
[01:30:09]  One spoonful at a time.
[01:30:10]  So, this guy.
[01:30:13]  Okay.
[01:30:14]  So, this is a document where Mueller comes in and they start asking for evidence.
[01:30:22]  So, now they've arrested Harrison.
[01:30:27]  They've arrested Wayne Harrison.
[01:30:30]  The guy who killed Estes.
[01:30:31]  Right.
[01:30:32]  And they've arrested Frank Nason.
[01:30:35]  So Nason's been arrested.
[01:30:37]  Harrison's been arrested.
[01:30:39]  They are kind of joining forces and they're saying, look, they're going with what's called a public authority defense, wherein they say, we thought we had authority to do what we were doing.
[01:30:54]  And initially, keep in mind, at this point, they failed their polygraph exams.
[01:30:59]  Everybody's failed.
[01:31:00]  Some of these guys failed like three of them.
[01:31:02]  Okay, if you go on the website, you'll see I've got one after another.
[01:31:05]  The story keeps changing.
[01:31:06]  So they're like, no, so and so Pete killed him.
[01:31:09]  Okay, then it's okay, no, Pete didn't kill him.
[01:31:12]  Harrison killed him.
[01:31:14]  I saw the blood.
[01:31:15]  No, I didn't see the blood.
[01:31:16]  No, he killed him.
[01:31:17]  No, this, no, that.
[01:31:17]  So they keep changing, changing.
[01:31:18]  Every time they fail it, eventually they come clean and basically as clean as they can.
[01:31:22]  Harrison killed him.

=== Plea Deals and Conspiracy Charges (15:31) ===

[01:31:25]  But it was Rossini who ordered it.
[01:31:27]  Can't say the FBI.
[01:31:29]  We can't say the FBI ordered it because that would be a major fucking problem for us.
[01:31:33]  We've already been told.
[01:31:35]  So it's somebody.
[01:31:36]  And, you know, why would you say anybody ordered it?
[01:31:38]  Well, you have to say somebody because if I'm Harrison and I say I killed him, well, why'd you kill him?
[01:31:44]  Right.
[01:31:45]  Somebody told me to.
[01:31:46]  Somebody told me to kill him.
[01:31:47]  Yeah.
[01:31:47]  It's better for me to say that Danny told me to do it because then I get to cooperate against Danny.
[01:31:54]  So you don't really want me because I wouldn't have killed him on my own.
[01:31:56]  Right.
[01:31:57]  Danny did it.
[01:31:58]  All right.
[01:31:58]  You got a card to play.
[01:31:59]  Right.
[01:31:59]  So that's what happens they all start pointing at Rossini.
[01:32:03]  So this is the document where they start.
[01:32:09]  They go over Farcion's role, they go over Barrero's role, they start explaining.
[01:32:14]  So if you read this, you start to realize very, very quickly.
[01:32:19]  That they're focusing in on law and dirty law enforcement.
[01:32:22]  And this is what, this is what within weeks, and at this exact time is when Mueller shows up.
[01:32:28]  There's a huge article, there's a new sheriff in town, and Mueller's a new breed.
[01:32:33]  And yeah, you know, keep in mind he's young, he's younger than he's not young, but he's probably in his late 30s, early 40s, probably.
[01:32:40]  So he's coming in, he's going to clean up the office, none of no more of this fucking blame shifting and dirty agents.
[01:32:46]  And he comes in, he reads this, and it's another case about dirty agents on a task force that we're over.
[01:32:52]  Fuck.
[01:32:54]  So he comes in, he looks at it, and then he is putting together a case.
[01:33:05]  So he goes to Rossini.
[01:33:06]  Keep in mind, at this point, they've now focused in on Rossini.
[01:33:09]  We've got all these people saying Rossini did it.
[01:33:11]  They're all willing to testify.
[01:33:12]  We got like eight guys ready to say Rossini did it in some form or fashion.
[01:33:16]  We're talking about this guy saw blood, this guy did this, this guy did that, this guy's got a gun.
[01:33:21]  Everybody's saying he did it.
[01:33:22]  Pete knows he's screwed.
[01:33:23]  They.
[01:33:24]  So bad it becomes a capital case.
[01:33:27]  They actually have a small, like a little trial kind of thing.
[01:33:30]  They go to Washington.
[01:33:32]  Pete's attorneys go to Washington.
[01:33:33]  They have a little trial to decide in front of, I think, Janet Reno to try and fight or try and figure out can we kill Pete if we find him guilty?
[01:33:44]  Can we execute him?
[01:33:45]  Right.
[01:33:46]  And they say, so Pete's lawyers lose that and they say, yeah, yeah, if you can prove all this and he gets found guilty, he's going to be executed.
[01:33:53]  So now you're on death row.
[01:33:54]  You're one of the first people on death row.
[01:33:55]  The other people that are.
[01:33:56]  We were on death row at that time, other than Rossini.
[01:33:58]  It's Rossini, it's the Unabomber, and it's Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City bomber.
[01:34:04]  So Ted Kaczynski, Timothy McVeigh, Pete Rossini.
[01:34:09]  Oh my God.
[01:34:09]  Didn't fucking do it.
[01:34:10]  Didn't have to kill anybody.
[01:34:11]  Didn't even do it.
[01:34:15]  That's fucked.
[01:34:16]  Wow.
[01:34:16]  So what ends up happening is, and keep in mind, all the evidence they explain is that Pete killed him.
[01:34:22]  He shot him with a gun.
[01:34:23]  They didn't shoot anybody with a gun.
[01:34:25]  It'd be different if you went and said, I.
[01:34:27]  It was a conspiracy.
[01:34:28]  You're saying, you're telling these people I shot him.
[01:34:30]  Yeah.
[01:34:30]  And he loses.
[01:34:31]  He's going to get executed.
[01:34:33]  So, okay.
[01:34:34]  So he comes back, a number of circumstances.
[01:34:38]  Okay.
[01:34:38]  So what happens is, Mahler at this point, Pete pleads guilty.
[01:34:43]  They go to Pete and they say, Listen, he's trying to get him to plead like to a life sentence, you know, first.
[01:34:49]  And then they come back.
[01:34:51]  And finally, they go back and forth.
[01:34:52]  The lawyers go back and forth from Mahler, back and forth.
[01:34:54]  And what happens is, Mahler says, Look, here's what we'll do.
[01:34:59]  Now, Pete knows all these motherfuckers are ready to testify against me.
[01:35:03]  I didn't do this.
[01:35:04]  Yeah.
[01:35:04]  So I'm pissed.
[01:35:05]  So that whole code thing, I'm ready to cut everybody's throat.
[01:35:08]  Yeah.
[01:35:09]  Right.
[01:35:09]  So Mueller says, listen, here's what I want to do.
[01:35:12]  Mueller knows this dirty FBI agent's involved.
[01:35:15]  But he comes in and says, look, here's what we'll do.
[01:35:20]  We have Rossini plead guilty to 40 years, and I'll allow him to cooperate against these other guys, and we'll get his sentence cut significantly.
[01:35:28]  Mueller says that.
[01:35:29]  Mueller says that to Pete's attorney.
[01:35:31]  Takes a lot of convincing, but Pete's like, I don't have a prayer.
[01:35:34]  My parents come in.
[01:35:35]  They're like, look, what are you going to do?
[01:35:37]  The guy, you know, come on, these guys are guilty or not, you're going to be found guilty.
[01:35:42]  There's no doubt in anybody's mind.
[01:35:43]  It's on you.
[01:35:44]  Yeah.
[01:35:44]  So Pete says, okay, goes to trial.
[01:35:47]  He pleads guilty to two counts of conspiracy to commit murder in the furtherance of a drug conspiracy.
[01:35:55]  So it's like a Rico case?
[01:35:57]  Well, he wanted it to be Rico.
[01:35:58]  Okay.
[01:35:59]  But Mueller was insisting he had to plead guilty to the murders.
[01:36:04]  You have to say you murdered him.
[01:36:06]  Specific murder.
[01:36:07]  It can't be conspiracy.
[01:36:07]  It has to be straight up murder.
[01:36:08]  No, no, it's conspiracy to commit murder.
[01:36:10]  Oh, okay.
[01:36:11]  So you have to say, You were, it was a conspiracy.
[01:36:13]  You conspired to commit murder.
[01:36:15]  So he says, I'll, so finally he says, okay, he wants to say Rico, but now Mueller's saying it has to be for the specific for murder.
[01:36:23]  Keep in mind, he knows if you say it's murder, now it's on your record.
[01:36:28]  It's going to be hard for you to unwind that.
[01:36:29]  To get that off.
[01:36:30]  Yeah.
[01:36:31]  So he goes in, and plus his lawyers are saying, definitely you want to do two counts because the maximum they can give you is 20 years apiece.
[01:36:37]  Right.
[01:36:37]  So if they stack them, it's exactly 40 years.
[01:36:39]  You don't want to say Rico because it could be even higher than that.
[01:36:41]  You know, so they're like, fuck.
[01:36:43]  So he goes in and Pete says, okay, yeah, did you?
[01:36:45]  Yes, I was paying off an informant.
[01:36:47]  Yes, I was paying off this guy.
[01:36:48]  I was doing this.
[01:36:49]  Did you?
[01:36:50]  Yes, yes.
[01:36:50]  And what do you charge with this?
[01:36:52]  And what do you plead guilty to?
[01:36:53]  Conspiracy to commit murder.
[01:36:55]  Okay, boom, bam, 40 years.
[01:36:57]  He goes to Leavenworth.
[01:37:00]  Goes to Leavenworth.
[01:37:01]  A few months later, Mueller shows up with this guy, Burroughs, Bruce Burroughs, right?
[01:37:08]  So he shows up with it, which is the FBI.
[01:37:10]  He's over like the FBI.
[01:37:12]  He's like one of the top dogs of the FBI.
[01:37:13]  He's over the whole task force.
[01:37:14]  These guys are all working for him.
[01:37:16]  He knows them.
[01:37:17]  They come in, they meet with Rossini.
[01:37:20]  Mahler says, okay, these two guys are going to trial.
[01:37:23]  I need you to testify.
[01:37:24]  You said you'd testify.
[01:37:25]  And he goes, okay, okay.
[01:37:26]  Yeah, I'll testify.
[01:37:27]  I'll testify.
[01:37:27]  He goes, okay, well, let's talk about this.
[01:37:29]  So they sit down and he says, okay, so when did you shoot him?
[01:37:33]  He's like, no, I didn't shoot him.
[01:37:35]  So you didn't shoot him.
[01:37:36]  He's like, okay, but you told him to shoot him, though, right?
[01:37:38]  I didn't tell anybody to shoot anybody.
[01:37:39]  What do you mean?
[01:37:42]  He goes, you just pled guilty to conspiracy to commit.
[01:37:46]  He's like, I pled guilty because you had like six or eight guys that were going to say I pled guilty.
[01:37:50]  It's like, you don't think I'm going to testify to that.
[01:37:53]  Right.
[01:37:54]  So he's like, well, what happened?
[01:37:57]  So he explains what happened.
[01:37:58]  Well, there was this dirty FBI agent.
[01:38:00]  Mueller's been hearing this.
[01:38:01]  You've seen how many people are saying it.
[01:38:04]  There's a dirty FBI agent.
[01:38:05]  There's this guy, Farcione.
[01:38:07]  Now Pete now knows that the guy is not.
[01:38:12]  At this point, Pete knows, okay, well, Farcione is not an FBI agent.
[01:38:14]  He's actually an informant, professional informant.
[01:38:19]  So he says, okay.
[01:38:20]  I got to take this out.
[01:38:20]  That's hurting me.
[01:38:21]  So he says, okay.
[01:38:24]  No problem.
[01:38:25]  So he goes, okay.
[01:38:26]  He talks to him and he says, okay, so what happened?
[01:38:28]  He said, I was paying him this, paying him that.
[01:38:30]  He's like, what?
[01:38:31]  They're both taking notes.
[01:38:32]  Mueller's taking notes.
[01:38:33]  Burroughs is taking notes.
[01:38:34]  Okay, so what happened?
[01:38:35]  Okay, this, this.
[01:38:36]  He's like, Well, when did you do this?
[01:38:39]  So everything he's telling him, Pete's unraveling his entire case.
[01:38:43]  As Pete thinks he's helping to cooperate and tell Mueller what really happened, he's actually destroying Mueller's case.
[01:38:53]  Yeah.
[01:38:53]  Because Mueller had a very simple case.
[01:38:55]  Right now, it's all fucked up.
[01:38:57]  These guys were informants.
[01:38:59]  Pete didn't like that.
[01:39:00]  He was afraid they were going to inform on him.
[01:39:02]  He told these guys to kill him.
[01:39:03]  They both killed him.
[01:39:05]  They got rid of the bodies.
[01:39:06]  It's a pretty simple case.
[01:39:07]  It has nothing to do with FBI agents.
[01:39:10]  Muller didn't want it to have anything to do with FBI agents.
[01:39:12]  This guy's on the shortlist to become Attorney General.
[01:39:15]  Yeah.
[01:39:18]  Okay?
[01:39:19]  So he doesn't need this shitstorm that this would stir up.
[01:39:22]  This is another Whitey Bulger.
[01:39:23]  This is another, shit, I forget the other guy's name.
[01:39:28]  Anyway, there's like a Sapri Chapron.
[01:39:30]  This is another Sapri Chapron.
[01:39:32]  Right.
[01:39:32]  This is another huge dirty agent.
[01:39:35]  The whole thing blows up and his name's attached to it.
[01:39:37]  He doesn't want that.
[01:39:38]  I'm here to clean this place up.
[01:39:40]  So he says, okay.
[01:39:41]  So he goes through the whole thing and starts explaining the whole thing.
[01:39:44]  This meeting takes place over three days.
[01:39:47]  Mueller actually leaves, goes back, comes back for two more days with Burroughs.
[01:39:52]  They take notes, everything.
[01:39:53]  Okay.
[01:39:53]  He's telling them about dirty FBI agents, telling them about the murder, telling them about how it was ordered, telling them that Mark Farcione is the one who said to do it.
[01:40:01]  Not to do it in San Francisco.
[01:40:02]  Do it here.
[01:40:03]  Don't let them find the body.
[01:40:05]  Got the $50,000.
[01:40:07]  Tells them everything.
[01:40:08]  So devastated Mueller's case.
[01:40:10]  Yeah.
[01:40:11]  He then says to Mueller, or Mueller, then at the end of it, Mueller says, according to Pete, he shows him, Mueller, one, Pete gives him, he's like, yeah, but these guys haven't talked to you in this long, whatever.
[01:40:25]  What do you mean?
[01:40:25]  They say they haven't talked to you.
[01:40:26]  Pulls out the fucking records and says, really?
[01:40:29]  Because I talked to him here.
[01:40:30]  I talked to him.
[01:40:30]  Pete has all the fucking phone records, more phone records of all these phone calls between these guys Barrero's pager, Farshione's pager, this day, this day.
[01:40:39]  Right.
[01:40:39]  Right after the murders.
[01:40:40]  Right after the murders, way past the murders, where these guys say they haven't talked to him in forever.
[01:40:46]  So, he goes through the whole thing and then completely unraveled everything.
[01:40:50]  Unravels everything.
[01:40:50]  At some point, Mueller shows him a picture of Aria and asks him about Aria.
[01:40:56]  And he's like, That's Aria.
[01:40:57]  And he's like, Yeah.
[01:40:59]  So, he realizes at that point that because now, by now, he's heard a lot of this.
[01:41:05]  He's now realizing he thinks that Mueller thinks that Aria killed Ellenberg, had Ellenberger killed.
[01:41:12]  And Pete thinks, now thinks he had him killed because he finds out.
[01:41:18]  That Ellenberger's now living with.
[01:41:21]  Aria.
[01:41:22]  I'm sorry.
[01:41:23]  Aria is now living with Ellenberger's ex girlfriend, Ginny.
[01:41:27]  So that's an issue.
[01:41:29]  So he's now.
[01:41:30]  So Mueller essentially.
[01:41:32]  Mueller now knows that the FBI informant, probably Barrero also, asked Harrison to kill Estes and that Aria may very well have killed.
[01:41:51]  And keep in mind, I say that because it's less, it's less, it's kind of convoluted because you've got Nason saying multiple things.
[01:41:59]  Pete saying, I never believed that Aria would have done that.
[01:42:03]  But you've got the documents, $30,000.
[01:42:05]  I don't know.
[01:42:06]  It doesn't look good.
[01:42:07]  You know, I have a hard time saying, you know, you killed some, you know, I don't know.
[01:42:12]  I know that the documents don't look good.
[01:42:16]  So, you know, but Mueller, Pete said he definitely, Mueller was like, look, we've had our suspicions for a while.
[01:42:22]  We chose him the phone records, the phone calls from Aria, all these.
[01:42:25]  Why is Ari involved in this whole thing?
[01:42:27]  Right.
[01:42:28]  So that's what happens.
[01:42:30]  So Mueller says, Look, I'm bringing you back.
[01:42:34]  I'm going to have you testify in front of the grand jury.
[01:42:36]  We're going to indict these dirty FBI agents.
[01:42:38]  I'm going to get your sentence reduced.
[01:42:40]  And he signs an agreement with Pete.
[01:42:43]  Well, he gives Pete an agreement, an ironclad agreement that says he will reduce his sentence.
[01:42:49]  Which never happens.
[01:42:50]  Never happens.
[01:42:51]  To no specific amount.
[01:42:52]  Just says he's going to reduce his sentence.
[01:42:53]  Just says he's going to.
[01:42:54]  Well, you can't tell what the judge is going to do.
[01:42:56]  Like, I can't tell you the judge is.
[01:42:57]  I can.
[01:42:58]  I could tell you I'm going to put in the motion.
[01:43:00]  I'm going to put it in front of the judge, but I can't.
[01:43:02]  It's still a judge's decision.
[01:43:03]  The judge could do six months.
[01:43:04]  He could do 20 years.
[01:43:06]  We don't know.
[01:43:07]  So he's like, I will put it in for sure.
[01:43:09]  They don't do that because what if you get in front of a jury?
[01:43:12]  The first thing they're going to say is, were you promised anything?
[01:43:15]  Now he's got to say, yeah, I was promised.
[01:43:18]  I was promised he would put in a motion to have my sentence reduced.
[01:43:21]  Right.
[01:43:21]  That doesn't look good.
[01:43:22]  Yeah.
[01:43:22]  Like you're just saying it just to get it reduced.
[01:43:24]  Typically, what they say is, we will consider it substantial assistance.
[01:43:28]  And they say, well, I'm hoping.
[01:43:31]  This, but they said that they weren't promising me and think, no, no, he's got a promise.
[01:43:35]  Yeah.
[01:43:36]  So, okay.
[01:43:37]  So, with that said, Mueller goes back with all the notes and they prepare a document called an FBI 302.
[01:43:46]  Okay.
[01:43:46]  Then this becomes important.
[01:43:48]  You've read the book, you know why, because basically they take all these notes and they create a 302, which is the official document, the official record for the FBI, which is supposed to be a clarification and condensed version of an interview.
[01:44:04]  What's important?
[01:44:05]  Mm hmm.
[01:44:05]  I just told you about dirty FBI agents, told you about payoffs, told you I did not order the murder of anybody or conspire to murder anybody.
[01:44:14]  Yeah.
[01:44:16]  They craft the 302, doesn't say a fucking thing about payoffs, doesn't say anything about dirty FBI agents, doesn't say anything about him denying anything.
[01:44:29]  So when you read the 302, it basically talks about drug transactions and talks about a murder, and it makes it sound almost like Pete might have been involved.
[01:44:38]  Doesn't say he's like he ordered it, but it's close.
[01:44:41]  It makes it sound like he's part of it.
[01:44:44]  So what happens is Mueller prepares a document, goes in to see Nason and Harrison, and he convinces them.
[01:44:53]  And, you know, I'm not going to go with the whole thing, but it's a whole thing where he comes, he basically goes in and says, Look, I got a 302 here, and gives them the 302 and tells them all, he's going to fucking testify against you.
[01:45:04]  He's going to say that he did order the murders.
[01:45:07]  These guys know he didn't order the murders.
[01:45:09]  Yeah.
[01:45:10]  So now he's flipping it on you.
[01:45:12]  You go there and start talking about dirty FBI agents ordering murders.
[01:45:15]  Rossini's going to say he ordered the murder.
[01:45:18]  How is that going to look?
[01:45:19]  Like you're lying.
[01:45:20]  Yeah.
[01:45:21]  And that's, you know, so that's what happens.
[01:45:22]  So these guys end up taking a plea.
[01:45:25]  They take a plea for 25 years apiece, knowing that that's because they're terrified that Rossini, because.
[01:45:33]  Who?
[01:45:34]  That's Harrison and all those?
[01:45:36]  Harrison and Nason take a plea for 25 years for each murder.
[01:45:39]  They both get 25 years because Mueller's telling them that Rossini is going to testify against you and he is going to say that which is a straight-up lie.
[01:45:47]  Straight-up lie.
[01:45:48]  So Mueller's just playing them.
[01:45:49]  Yeah.
[01:45:50]  And he's prepared a document that basically supports it.
[01:45:54]  It's exactly almost the opposite of what Pete said.
[01:45:56]  Yeah.
[01:45:58]  So, Pete, when these guys plead guilty to what?
[01:46:03]  Oh, to the murder.
[01:46:03]  They plead guilty to the murder.
[01:46:05]  Keep in mind, too, when Nason comes in, Nason says in his thing that that he was told he had to plead guilty to the murder.
[01:46:16]  And he says, of course, that.
[01:46:17]  Oh, and both of them say they plead guilty and they plead guilty that member of a conspiracy and that they'd been ordered to commit the murder by Rossini.
[01:46:28]  So now you've pled guilty.
[01:46:31]  So how does that make Rossini look?
[01:46:34]  Rossini, now these guys are now saying you did order the murder.
[01:46:37]  Right.
[01:46:37]  Pete's never said he ordered the murders.
[01:46:39]  Yeah.
[01:46:40]  Mueller just planted those seeds.
[01:46:41]  Yeah.
[01:46:42]  Now it points back at you.
[01:46:44]  Now you're done.
[01:46:45]  What are you going to do?
[01:46:46]  Oh, I didn't.
[01:46:46]  Really?
[01:46:47]  Because these guys just pled guilty saying that you did order them.
[01:46:50]  And they played guilty to it and got 25 years of peace.
[01:46:52]  They did that because you said that you were going to cooperate and you were going to say it.
[01:46:55]  Truth is, none of it.

=== Bureau Agents Plead Guilty (13:00) ===

[01:46:56]  It's a whole circle jerk.
[01:46:58]  And they walk into the whole thing.
[01:47:00]  And so they're done.
[01:47:01]  This all comes out later when Nathan.
[01:47:03]  Oh, Nathan Muller is just like playing just the show.
[01:47:06]  Right.
[01:47:06]  Exactly.
[01:47:07]  Damn, that's nasty.
[01:47:09]  So Nathan later files, you know, he files his 2255 where he says, he specifically says that, you know, well, this is his plea where he says he choked him to death.
[01:47:22]  Pooh, remember?
[01:47:23]  So this is when Muller realizes.
[01:47:25]  Rossini's the only one who's saying choked to death, choked to death.
[01:47:27]  He's saying everybody else is shot, shot, shot, shot.
[01:47:30]  When he finally gets him to plead guilty and he talks to Nason, Nason says, I choked him to death.
[01:47:35]  Why has he decided to say that all of a sudden?
[01:47:36]  Well, because he's pleading guilty anyway.
[01:47:38]  He's like, I didn't shoot him.
[01:47:38]  Well, how did you kill him?
[01:47:39]  I mean, I killed him, but how'd you kill him?
[01:47:41]  I choked him to death.
[01:47:42]  Oh, shit.
[01:47:42]  That lines up with fucking what Rossini said.
[01:47:44]  So now Mueller really knows Rossini killed everything this guy said.
[01:47:48]  That he was the truth.
[01:47:49]  That these FBI agents are dirty.
[01:47:51]  Right.
[01:47:51]  Everything is dirty.
[01:47:52]  And he didn't order the murder.
[01:47:53]  Right.
[01:47:55]  But they plead guilty.
[01:47:56]  They get their 25 years.
[01:47:58]  Based on Mueller's lie.
[01:47:59]  Based on that.
[01:48:00]  Yeah.
[01:48:00]  So I got that document here where he says, where Rossini, sorry, where Nason actually says, at the direction of Rossini, you know, that he killed him.
[01:48:08]  Yeah.
[01:48:09]  At Rossini's direction.
[01:48:11]  So this is Circumstance Group.
[01:48:16]  So he prepares a document where Mueller ends up preparing a document for these other guys to try and, remember, he's trying to convince them.
[01:48:25]  While he's trying to convince them, he prepares a document that he provides them where he specifically says that.
[01:48:30]  A number of circumstances corroborate what Rossini told me.
[01:48:34]  There's lots of things that exactly what he said is true.
[01:48:38]  So he's admitting in paperwork, says Robert Mueller right on it.
[01:48:43]  Robert S. Mueller III.
[01:48:46]  So he's got that.
[01:48:48]  Okay.
[01:48:48]  Where did you get those documents from?
[01:48:50]  Pete has all these.
[01:48:51]  He just had them all.
[01:48:52]  And you copied all of them?
[01:48:53]  Yeah.
[01:48:54]  Okay.
[01:48:54]  Yeah.
[01:48:55]  I had a guy in Unicore.
[01:48:57]  It would be expensive to copy these since you don't make any money in prison.
[01:49:00]  So what you do is you get somebody in Unicore, somebody who works in the factory.
[01:49:04]  And you give him commissary, and then he sneaks the documents in his shirt every day.
[01:49:08]  He'll bring in like 50 at a time.
[01:49:10]  Keep my wife 750 fucking documents.
[01:49:12]  So he goes in with 200 documents strapped to him like he's a fucking drug courier.
[01:49:16]  Jesus, back to the pants.
[01:49:17]  Goes in, makes the copies, then puts them in the back, then he brings them back, and then you give him like a $3 bag of coffee or some ramen noodles.
[01:49:26]  Yeah.
[01:49:26]  So that's how you got off it.
[01:49:27]  For like $100 worth of coffee.
[01:49:29]  That's amazing.
[01:49:29]  I end up getting for like 10 bucks.
[01:49:31]  That's amazing.
[01:49:32]  It takes some time.
[01:49:34]  You have to be creative.
[01:49:35]  Nobody's helping you.
[01:49:37]  No help.
[01:49:38]  You are a magician, Matt.
[01:49:39]  It's a story in itself, really.
[01:49:40]  Yeah, these guys are, you know, this is another thing.
[01:49:44]  The guy who did it, it's another guy I wrote a fucking story for.
[01:49:49]  No.
[01:49:49]  Yeah, he was the clerk in Unicorn.
[01:49:51]  It's a fucking great story.
[01:49:54]  He's a fucking young kid.
[01:49:55]  He was like a drug courier and money's fucking moved.
[01:49:59]  It's a great story.
[01:50:01]  You could probably interview him.
[01:50:03]  Or Or Orlando.
[01:50:04]  Does he really?
[01:50:05]  Oh, that would be cool.
[01:50:06]  Yeah.
[01:50:06]  Let's get him in here.
[01:50:07]  Smart, good looking kid, smart, young.
[01:50:09]  He was young as hell when he was doing it.
[01:50:12]  I mean, he moved to, he's an American.
[01:50:14]  He well, he's Mexican, but he looks like an Anglo.
[01:50:17]  But does he have a degree in fine arts?
[01:50:18]  There's no fine arts degree, doesn't mean that he's not creative.
[01:50:22]  He actually moved to Acapulco.
[01:50:24]  I mean, what America would you move to Acapulco and deal drugs?
[01:50:27]  I'm gonna move to Acapulco and arrange shipments of drugs and all.
[01:50:30]  I mean, this is a kid, this balls, yeah, yeah, ball.
[01:50:34]  I mean, that takes a lot.
[01:50:36]  Well, thanks for thanks to him.
[01:50:37]  We have all these, all this fucking evidence, yeah, appreciate it, buddy.
[01:50:40]  Thank you, okay, uh, so okay, so.
[01:50:44]  Nason, once again, amendment motion to vacate judgment.
[01:50:48]  So he's trying to, you know, here's where Nason says, like, remember I said how he kind of bamboozled them into pleading guilty?
[01:50:54]  Here's where he says, some of them claims the government, that was Mueller, because Mueller was the government at that time.
[01:50:59]  He was the U.S.
[01:51:00]  The government tricked Nason into pleading guilty to the intentionally killing of John Ellenberger.
[01:51:08]  As a result, Nason pled guilty.
[01:51:10]  It goes on here to say where he says, co defendant Rossini would testify.
[01:51:15]  He talks about how he says he was going to testify.
[01:51:17]  Turns out, Nason then goes there and says, turns out that was exactly not what he was going to say.
[01:51:22]  That Rossini was not going to testify that he had ordered the murder.
[01:51:26]  Wow.
[01:51:27]  Okay.
[01:51:28]  So this is, oh, yeah, yeah.
[01:51:31]  San Francisco does an about face.
[01:51:32]  This is an article about Mueller.
[01:51:34]  San Francisco office does about face under tough U.S. attorney.
[01:51:40]  That's Mueller.
[01:51:42]  What is an about face?
[01:51:43]  It means turn around.
[01:51:44]  They did a turnaround.
[01:51:45]  He turned him around because they remember it was all corrupt and fucked up.
[01:51:48]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:51:49]  So Mueller turned him around.
[01:51:51]  Okay.
[01:51:51]  And then guess what?
[01:51:52]  Clean the office up.
[01:51:53]  Clean the office up.
[01:51:54]  He got these guys to plead guilty.
[01:51:56]  Got that fucking guy, Rossini.
[01:51:58]  He's never getting out.
[01:52:00]  These two guys got 25 years.
[01:52:02]  He completely suppressed anything about dirty FBI agents, although there wasn't an investigation in the state into the agents.
[01:52:10]  And guess what?
[01:52:11]  Both of all.
[01:52:14]  Barrero and Blum, the guys who were giving.
[01:52:18]  Probably Blum.
[01:52:18]  Like I said, don't know for sure, but for sure, Barrero.
[01:52:21]  The guys that are giving all the information out.
[01:52:24]  They both took early stress retirement.
[01:52:28]  So they both retired.
[01:52:31]  They retire because guerrero and Plum, both.
[01:52:33]  Plum.
[01:52:34]  Yeah.
[01:52:34]  Plum.
[01:52:34]  Both of them retired.
[01:52:35]  And the reason they take stress disability retirement is that as an agent, if you retire, you can be called to testify.
[01:52:43]  And you can't say, I'm not going to testify.
[01:52:46]  You have to testify.
[01:52:48]  As if you take a stress disability retirement, you then can plead the fifth and say, I'm not going to retire.
[01:52:55]  Holy shit.
[01:52:56]  So if you do get me into a jam I'm sorry, not retire.
[01:52:59]  I'm not going to answer.
[01:53:00]  You can then say, I'm not going to answer.
[01:53:02]  I think a stress disability retirement.
[01:53:04]  I can't.
[01:53:05]  I'm under stress.
[01:53:05]  I'm fucked up.
[01:53:06]  Because that's the weakest link right there.
[01:53:08]  Right.
[01:53:08]  Those guys can plead the fifth and they're.
[01:53:10]  Yeah, you can't talk.
[01:53:11]  You can't force me to talk about this.
[01:53:13]  Yeah.
[01:53:13]  So, okay.
[01:53:15]  Mueller doesn't.
[01:53:16]  Mueller's smart.
[01:53:18]  Mueller doesn't end up getting.
[01:53:24]  He doesn't become the attorney general like he was hoping, right?
[01:53:28]  Bush wins the election.
[01:53:30]  Mueller.
[01:53:31]  Ashcroft gets named Attorney General.
[01:53:33]  He gets like the supporting role to Attorney General.
[01:53:36]  And then within a few months or something like that, Mueller gets appointed to or nominated to be the FBI Director.
[01:53:44]  And I only bring this up because I believe that Mueller shifted the blame from the FBI to Rossini, right?
[01:53:53]  I believe he shifted that blame.
[01:53:55]  I believe he covered up.
[01:53:56]  I think he didn't start the conspiracy, right?
[01:53:58]  Mueller didn't start the conspiracy.
[01:54:00]  The FBI.
[01:54:03]  Blum, Barrero, and Farshione started the conspiracy.
[01:54:05]  They got the guy murdered.
[01:54:08]  They ended up getting everybody together to frame Rossini.
[01:54:11]  They did that, but Mueller ran with the ball.
[01:54:13]  He didn't turn around and do what he said he was going to do.
[01:54:15]  He didn't indict these guys.
[01:54:16]  He just kept it going because it was in his best interest.
[01:54:18]  Why do you think he really did that, though?
[01:54:20]  Do you think it was somebody above him that was pressuring him?
[01:54:22]  Or do you think that was all in just.
[01:54:23]  No, I think it was him.
[01:54:24]  I think he's just.
[01:54:25]  Personal career.
[01:54:26]  Yeah, it wanted to look good right now.
[01:54:27]  I wonder what good hands up.
[01:54:28]  How bad is it going to look?
[01:54:30]  Look, I'm going about my job.
[01:54:32]  The moment I start saying dirty FBI agents, people lose their job left and right.
[01:54:36]  These guys are retiring left and right.
[01:54:39]  All these guys that were involved in Bulger's case and Salimi and all of these.
[01:54:44]  Cases.
[01:54:45]  It doesn't look good.
[01:54:45]  These guys are immediately.
[01:54:46]  So it's going to be a domino effect.
[01:54:48]  I cannot be involved in that.
[01:54:49]  I'm about to be named Attorney General.
[01:54:51]  Turns out he just picked it up and didn't have to say anything about the agents.
[01:54:55]  These guys got 25 years.
[01:54:56]  They did commit the murder.
[01:54:58]  They got 25 years.
[01:54:59]  This guy Rossini, they're going to reduce his sentence.
[01:55:02]  Who knows by how much.
[01:55:04]  I'm sure he justified it very easily.
[01:55:06]  These are bad guys.
[01:55:07]  They're drug dealers.
[01:55:09]  Fuck them.
[01:55:10]  They're not a U.S. attorney.
[01:55:12]  This is a top shelf guy.
[01:55:14]  So here's what he does.
[01:55:16]  At his nomination, the nomination of Robert Mueller, I just love this quote.
[01:55:19]  I just have to read this quote.
[01:55:20]  Yeah, read it for us.
[01:55:21]  This is a quote.
[01:55:23]  One of the senators says, Do you believe there is a culture problem within the Bureau, the Federal Bureau?
[01:55:31]  He says, I think it is.
[01:55:33]  So they're talking about all of these problems the Bureau has.
[01:55:36]  So Mueller's answer is I think it is absolutely unacceptable to try to cover up and not disclose something that needs to be disclosed.
[01:55:47]  And more importantly, or as importantly, It's unacceptable to try to shift blame to someone else.
[01:55:55]  Wow.
[01:55:56]  Which is exactly what he just did.
[01:55:57]  I don't know what you just fucking did.
[01:56:00]  And when he puts his resume, like all the things I've done, his last case, one of his only homicide cases he's ever worked on, and a death penalty case, probably the only death penalty case he worked on, he uses Rossini's case.
[01:56:15]  He says, I handled with others the prosecution of three individuals for the. killing of two persons whom they believe were cooperating with the federal narcotics investigation.
[01:56:28]  So he actually uses Pete's case as part of his resume.
[01:56:32]  Part of his resume.
[01:56:33]  And where is his resume?
[01:56:35]  It's one of the things you submit to the committee.
[01:56:37]  Listen, there's like 150 pages of his.
[01:56:41]  Okay.
[01:56:42]  He was nominated unanimous.
[01:56:44]  Everybody loves Mueller.
[01:56:45]  Yeah.
[01:56:46]  Holy shit.
[01:56:46]  Pete's not a big fan.
[01:56:48]  No, I'm sure.
[01:56:49]  He's not a big fan.
[01:56:49]  He's pretty pissed off right about him.
[01:56:51]  He's upset.
[01:56:52]  You know, and in general, honestly.
[01:56:54]  The only thing that bothers me, because if you look at Mueller's resume, look, these guys all have problems.
[01:56:59]  He's been involved in a couple of skirmishes before.
[01:57:02]  He's got mud on his face.
[01:57:03]  There's a BCCI investigation.
[01:57:05]  There was this big bank that went under.
[01:57:07]  He never really did the investigation because he knew that the CIA was laundering money and that he knew some stuff was going on.
[01:57:14]  So he never really follows it through.
[01:57:16]  That's a bad thing.
[01:57:17]  There's a couple little things, but he's always willing to take a hit for the government.
[01:57:22]  Keep in mind, this is a guy.
[01:57:24]  They love that.
[01:57:24]  Yeah.
[01:57:26]  That's how you become FBI director.
[01:57:27]  So, one of the things he did, first of all, and started young, he volunteered for Vietnam.
[01:57:35]  Fucking thousands of kids every month are coming home in body bags.
[01:57:39]  This guy graduates high school and volunteers.
[01:57:42]  And he knew.
[01:57:43]  He was in the Marine Corps, right?
[01:57:45]  Was he a Marine?
[01:57:47]  When I read on Wikipedia, it said that he was like an officer in the Marine Corps.
[01:57:51]  I think he was in the Marines.
[01:57:54]  So, look.
[01:57:57]  I'm saying I'm not volunteering.
[01:57:59]  Yeah, shit.
[01:58:01]  One of his good friends fucking came home in a body bag.
[01:58:04]  You know, look, look, I think he fucked up.
[01:58:08]  I think he's ambitious.
[01:58:09]  I think he justified it.
[01:58:11]  I think he made some mistakes.
[01:58:12]  I think everybody makes mistakes.
[01:58:14]  I don't have a problem fucking up.
[01:58:16]  I fuck up all the time.
[01:58:18]  I deal with fuck ups all the time.
[01:58:19]  I love guys that fuck up.
[01:58:21]  I love complete idiots who fuck up.
[01:58:23]  But what bothers me is when you can't fucking own up to it.
[01:58:29]  The first thing you do when I get caught doing something and I do stupid shit all the time, don't keep denying it.
[01:58:35]  Just go fuck.
[01:58:36]  All right, I fucked up.
[01:58:37]  Here's what I did.
[01:58:38]  Boom, boom, boom.
[01:58:38]  Sorry, my bad.
[01:58:40]  I apologize.
[01:58:41]  I can make it right.
[01:58:42]  I can fix it.
[01:58:42]  Let's fix this.
[01:58:44]  But don't keep denying.
[01:58:46]  That's what irritates me.
[01:58:48]  And that's what he does.
[01:58:49]  He just keeps covering it up.
[01:58:52]  Why wouldn't you cut this fucking guy loose?
[01:58:54]  Right.
[01:58:55]  You've got your fucking director of the FBI.
[01:58:57]  You could stroke a pin and they cut him loose.
[01:58:59]  Right.
[01:59:00]  But wouldn't that just unravel a whole slew of other shit?
[01:59:03]  Yeah, he's worried about him coming out and saying a bunch of shit.
[01:59:06]  Maybe, but you have to see the look.
[01:59:10]  Let me keep going.
[01:59:10]  If he lets him out, I feel like Mueller has so much to lose.
[01:59:15]  Well, and keep in mind, too.
[01:59:16]  With Pete being in prison, keep in mind, you can't necessarily talk to a reporter.
[01:59:22]  I had carte blanche to do what I wanted in there because I wasn't doing it.
[01:59:26]  I was writing nice stories, and everybody thought it was cute and funny.
[01:59:29]  Look at little Cox running around.
[01:59:33]  He's writing his little stories.
[01:59:34]  Writing good books.
[01:59:36]  They're harmless.
[01:59:37]  He's not bothering me.
[01:59:38]  I wasn't out there trying to solve murders and stuff.
[01:59:41]  Stuff fell in my lap, but it wasn't like I was causing any trouble.
[01:59:46]  And I was keeping everybody entertained and they're all happy.
[01:59:49]  But if Pete said, I want to talk to 2020 and 2020 showed up, they have to go through the public information officer.

=== Corruption Notes and Disclaimers (14:27) ===

[01:59:57]  People get notified.
[01:59:58]  So you can keep an eye on this guy while he's in prison.
[02:00:01]  You can shut him down while he's in prison.
[02:00:03]  You have to allow him to do anything while he's in prison.
[02:00:08]  You're not just, there's no internet.
[02:00:09]  You're going, everything's being filtered in and out, in and out.
[02:00:13]  You're not getting away with shit.
[02:00:14]  So he's got them in a box.
[02:00:17]  So it's a nice place to have somebody who's got some dirt on you.
[02:00:22]  Okay, this is one of the things I love.
[02:00:23]  So after Mueller disappears, right, they assign a new guy.
[02:00:26]  They assume this guy, David Hall.
[02:00:28]  So David Hall, so Rossini puts in a motion immediately saying, Hey, it's been fucking months and months and months.
[02:00:34]  Mueller's a goddamn, he's just turned FBI.
[02:00:37]  Nobody's talking to me.
[02:00:38]  What's going on?
[02:00:39]  He puts in a motion to compel them to reduce his sentence.
[02:00:43]  I'm done.
[02:00:44]  So he says, So they respond by saying, So Hall's response to Rossini is, Hey, I have an agreement with these guys.
[02:00:52]  Of course, there's nothing in the file.
[02:00:53]  And what he's saying is I have a guaranteed agreement.
[02:00:56]  So Hall looked at that and said, we don't give guaranteed agreements.
[02:00:59]  So he's lying.
[02:01:00]  He writes, he even puts, at no time was the defendant promised any deal or reduced sentence by the government officials interviewing him.
[02:01:11]  He's got to be so pissed off when he reads.
[02:01:13]  But he's got proof.
[02:01:13]  He has his copy of the agreement.
[02:01:15]  Pete fucking's like, what the fuck?
[02:01:17]  Oh, hell no.
[02:01:19]  So he doesn't even file it, nothing.
[02:01:21]  He mails it straight to the judge.
[02:01:23]  He mails it straight to the judge.
[02:01:24]  The judge who just read that gets this from Mueller stating that the government, this is after you agree to cooperate, you know, the government in turn agrees to file a motion under Rule 35 for a federal rule of criminal procedure setting forth the extent and significance of your cooperation.
[02:01:48]  Such a motion will be filed at the conclusion of your cooperation.
[02:01:52]  He's done.
[02:01:52]  He's done.
[02:01:54]  You understand that the government's motion will set forth extended.
[02:01:58]  So it goes on it.
[02:01:59]  So it's a guarantee.
[02:02:00]  A guarantee.
[02:02:00]  He doesn't say substantial, you know, will consider.
[02:02:02]  No, no.
[02:02:03]  So he sends this to the judge, and the judge is like, oh, hell no.
[02:02:06]  Bring him back.
[02:02:08]  So he'd bring him back.
[02:02:10]  Pete goes in front of the judge.
[02:02:12]  Everybody goes in front of the judge.
[02:02:14]  Then Mr. Hall gets up there and says, he gets in front of the judge, and they say, and the judge says, I said I wouldn't read all this stuff.
[02:02:22]  So she says, Are you denying?
[02:02:24]  Because it's Exhibit B. That's what this is.
[02:02:26]  She goes, Are you denying that there's an agreement?
[02:02:30]  And he says, No, Your Honor, Your Honor, not at this time.
[02:02:34]  I'm not denying it now.
[02:02:36]  But then he says, But he says he doesn't deserve anything because he pled guilty.
[02:02:43]  To conspiring to commit murder, but then when he went in front of Mueller, he denied it.
[02:02:49]  So he's saying he denied it to Mueller.
[02:02:51]  So we don't have to agree because he denied it, pled guilty to doing it, and now he's lying.
[02:02:57]  One of those two things he's lying.
[02:02:58]  So he's admitting that Rossini told Mueller he didn't commit the murders.
[02:03:05]  Okay, so this is now they immediately turn around and they start saying, Rossini starts requesting documents like, I want all the fucking notes, I want the 302, I want everything.
[02:03:18]  So they come back and Wilson Leone, which is another one, keep in mind, these guys got five attorneys working on his shit.
[02:03:25]  Yeah.
[02:03:25]  He's got like him.
[02:03:26]  Yeah.
[02:03:26]  And like maybe his parents leverage their house and get him one attorney.
[02:03:32]  So how are you doing that?
[02:03:33]  How are you fighting that?
[02:03:34]  Okay.
[02:03:34]  So is Amadeo helping him at all or no?
[02:03:36]  No, Amadeo isn't around then.
[02:03:37]  Okay.
[02:03:38]  This is way back in 2000.
[02:03:40]  Okay.
[02:03:41]  This is 2010.
[02:03:43]  Okay.
[02:03:43]  So he ends up, they come back and they say, they come back and they say, yeah, we don't have any records.
[02:03:50]  We don't have any notes.
[02:03:51]  All the notes were purged.
[02:03:52]  And this is, that's what it says here.
[02:03:54]  It says, basically, this guy is, it's a declaration saying that had no other documents or records related to the case, that they have everything.
[02:04:02]  That's it.
[02:04:03]  This is a declaration.
[02:04:06]  This is them telling the government, the court, hey, nothing else to give them.
[02:04:09]  Fuck them.
[02:04:10]  That's it.
[02:04:11]  Okay, fine.
[02:04:12]  So then there's a, then they go.
[02:04:14]  So then Bruce Burroughs, remember Burroughs, who went and took the notes.
[02:04:17]  The guy who actually was taking the notes.
[02:04:18]  Right.
[02:04:19]  Yeah.
[02:04:19]  Burroughs comes and so they investigate, have Burroughs come back.
[02:04:24]  So he comes back.
[02:04:26]  And this is just to clarify these notes are when Burroughs and Mueller went to the penitentiary for three days to meet with Rossini.
[02:04:34]  Yes.
[02:04:35]  Right.
[02:04:35]  Right.
[02:04:35]  Now, Mueller's notes, we never find.
[02:04:39]  They're gone.
[02:04:40]  Mueller's pretty sharp.
[02:04:41]  Sure.
[02:04:42]  I mean, we don't keep around evidence that can.
[02:04:44]  Yeah.
[02:04:44]  Yeah.
[02:04:45]  So this, so keep in mind, so they talk to Burroughs.
[02:04:52]  This is his transcript, right?
[02:04:54]  So Burroughs, Bruce Burroughs gets on the thing.
[02:04:56]  They say, Records be clear.
[02:04:59]  This is in reference to the three meetings with Mr. Mueller, blah, blah, blah.
[02:05:07]  Then they asked basically, did corruption at all come up with Rossini?
[02:05:15]  He says, no.
[02:05:17]  Did he ever mention anything about corruption?
[02:05:18]  No.
[02:05:19]  Never say anything about corruption.
[02:05:21]  No corruption?
[02:05:22]  No corruption.
[02:05:24]  Did he ever disclaim any, expressly disclaim any involvement in Ellenberger's murder?
[02:05:31]  No.
[02:05:32]  Did he ever expressly disclaim involvement in Estes' murder?
[02:05:38]  No.
[02:05:39]  Okay, so did he ever in any way disclaim there was a concocted conspiracy to frame him?
[02:05:46]  No.
[02:05:48]  Who's saying this?
[02:05:49]  This is Burroughs is saying.
[02:05:50]  Burroughs.
[02:05:50]  He took all these notes and he's saying he never mentioned a conspiracy.
[02:05:53]  No.
[02:05:54]  Pete's like, the fuck?
[02:05:56]  Yeah, what the fuck?
[02:05:58]  Were you able to confirm allegations of corruption?
[02:06:01]  No.
[02:06:03]  You know why?
[02:06:03]  Because they never looked into it.
[02:06:05]  Yeah.
[02:06:05]  So, if I say this guy's corrupt and I got five people that will say they were there when he brought the money, you got to go talk to them.
[02:06:12]  You can check the records from the hotel.
[02:06:14]  You can check everything.
[02:06:16]  If you're a Mueller, you don't follow that up.
[02:06:18]  Right.
[02:06:19]  You don't want to.
[02:06:20]  And there's a paper trail.
[02:06:20]  I got my murderers.
[02:06:23]  I'm not following leads that point to the FBI being involved.
[02:06:29]  I can't follow that.
[02:06:30]  I don't know.
[02:06:31]  We don't even look into that.
[02:06:32]  Right.
[02:06:35]  So, they start talking about the.
[02:06:36]  So, this is Pete's lawyer starts talking about the 302 that was created.
[02:06:40]  And how it's not quite accurate, and is it exact?
[02:06:43]  And well, how did you create it?
[02:06:44]  Because you know, I'm not sure.
[02:06:47]  My client says it's not accurate, and he says, Yeah, I did.
[02:06:50]  He said, Did you take notes?
[02:06:51]  He goes, Yeah, I took notes.
[02:06:52]  I do.
[02:06:52]  Oh, do you have do you know where the notes are?
[02:06:54]  He's like, Did Mueller take notes?
[02:06:55]  I don't know if Mueller took notes.
[02:06:57]  Okay, so you did take, yeah, yeah, I believe I did.
[02:06:59]  Okay, do you have the notes?
[02:07:01]  I do not.
[02:07:02]  Uh, where are they now?
[02:07:03]  They should be in the file.
[02:07:05]  Which file, the FBI file, Your Honor?
[02:07:07]  If there are notes, so this guy Vermullen.
[02:07:12]  Which is Rossini's lawyer says, Whoa, Your Honor, if there's notes in the file, we need to see those notes.
[02:07:17]  We've asked for the notes.
[02:07:20]  Oh, okay.
[02:07:20]  So guess what?
[02:07:22]  They go and they look in the FBI file, and there are the fucking notes.
[02:07:26]  They find the notes that they've already seen before.
[02:07:29]  We're not there.
[02:07:30]  Yeah.
[02:07:31]  Not there.
[02:07:32]  Been purged.
[02:07:33]  There's no records.
[02:07:34]  There's no.
[02:07:35]  Bam.
[02:07:35]  Here's your fucking notes.
[02:07:37]  This is.
[02:07:39]  Sorry.
[02:07:39]  This is funny.
[02:07:40]  This is a U.S. attorney saying.
[02:07:42]  This is after they find the notes.
[02:07:43]  Pete said when he brought the notes in and laid them down, and they started going over the notes.
[02:07:48]  And I was like, Well, what'd he say?
[02:07:49]  He goes, Pete goes, You know what's funny about that?
[02:07:51]  I write this in the book where he says, He says, You know, the funny thing is, he goes, He'd done everything he was supposed to do.
[02:07:58]  Like, he'd filed the right motions.
[02:07:59]  He'd said all the right things.
[02:08:00]  He'd done all the right things.
[02:08:01]  He goes, But when he saw the notes, it was the first time I could tell he believed me.
[02:08:06]  Yeah.
[02:08:06]  He was a good attorney.
[02:08:07]  He goes, But he was going through the motions.
[02:08:10]  This, when he looked at the notes, he was like, Fuck.
[02:08:13]  Yeah.
[02:08:14]  He couldn't believe it.
[02:08:15]  Yeah.
[02:08:15]  Right.
[02:08:15]  Because, you know, you assume that the guy's lying to you.
[02:08:17]  Right.
[02:08:18]  So, anyway, this is one of the U.S. attorneys telling the judge, our files, our internal files were purged years ago.
[02:08:26]  There's nothing else.
[02:08:28]  So, that's why they can't find.
[02:08:30]  So, the 302 is not synonymous with the notes.
[02:08:33]  It's vastly different.
[02:08:34]  Right.
[02:08:35]  And he says, so they left out all the corruption and all the stuff.
[02:08:38]  They left out everything.
[02:08:39]  So, what ends up happening is she says, okay, we're going to let you talk to Mueller.
[02:08:44]  We're going to bring Mueller back.
[02:08:47]  So he goes, okay.
[02:08:47]  So we're going to let you talk to Mueller.
[02:08:50]  They say that to Rossini.
[02:08:51]  No, no, yeah.
[02:08:51]  They say it to his lawyer and Rossini.
[02:08:53]  They say, we're going to let you basically interview Mueller as a witness.
[02:08:56]  Wow.
[02:08:57]  So you can go over this.
[02:08:58]  But we're limiting it to two hours.
[02:09:01]  Okay.
[02:09:01]  Remember the hotel?
[02:09:02]  This is called the Monterey or Montreal Hotel right here.
[02:09:06]  So it talks about the Montreal Hotel.
[02:09:08]  That's where they delivered the first $50,000, which is, it talks about how Frank, somebody was, they stayed in Rossini's room.
[02:09:17]  So he deposited $50,000.
[02:09:18]  He gave $50,000 down, and that he still owed another $50,000 right here.
[02:09:26]  Right.
[02:09:26]  So this is how they talk about it.
[02:09:27]  He talks about just them going up to the room, and there's $50,000 and $50,000.
[02:09:31]  And it's Mark Farcione.
[02:09:33]  So where does he say?
[02:09:34]  He says, make sure they don't find the body.
[02:09:38]  And here it says that they said not to kill him in San Francisco.
[02:09:42]  Okay.
[02:09:43]  And what is that from?
[02:09:45]  This is from the notes.
[02:09:45]  This is Burroughs' notes.
[02:09:47]  Okay.
[02:09:47]  This is Burroughs' notes when Pete's talking to him.
[02:09:50]  Right.
[02:09:50]  Now keep in mind, he's got a Bunch of notes, but these are the ones that he leaves out all these things.
[02:09:54]  He leaves these out of the 302.
[02:09:55]  The 302.
[02:09:55]  So he never mentions anything about corruption, $50,000 payoffs, or anything, the hotel, nothing.
[02:10:01]  Keep in mind, too, multiple people are there.
[02:10:03]  All he's got to do is go talk to these people.
[02:10:04]  People were there.
[02:10:06]  Mueller didn't go.
[02:10:07]  No, not interested in talking to them.
[02:10:10]  We can't be generating.
[02:10:13]  These notes are here, so it's done.
[02:10:14]  They got them dead to rights, pretty much.
[02:10:16]  Well, do they?
[02:10:18]  You would think.
[02:10:19]  You would think.
[02:10:19]  Declaration of defendant Rossini submits.
[02:10:22]  So Rossini here explains what he told Mueller in this whole thing.
[02:10:26]  He explains all this about what he told Mueller and what the notes say and everything, and they send it.
[02:10:31]  So why did they ask him why they left these notes out of the 302?
[02:10:35]  Did they ask him that?
[02:10:37]  Did they ask that to Mueller?
[02:10:39]  Well, or to Burroughs.
[02:10:41]  I mean, surely they get the notes.
[02:10:43]  Well, they lose the attorney.
[02:10:45]  Oh, yeah.
[02:10:45]  Well, see, Burroughs had already been interviewed.
[02:10:48]  Yeah.
[02:10:48]  So now it's Mueller.
[02:10:49]  Now they come up with the notes.
[02:10:50]  Then they go straight for Mueller.
[02:10:51]  Okay.
[02:10:52]  So Mueller, they ask.
[02:10:53]  So Mueller gets on the.
[02:10:54]  When Mueller takes the stand, keep in mind, too, this is on a video thing.
[02:10:57]  He's in quantum.
[02:10:58]  Video conference, yeah.
[02:10:59]  Like in Washington, someplace.
[02:11:00]  I don't know.
[02:11:02]  So he ends up taking it.
[02:11:04]  He's on a screen, everything.
[02:11:05]  They talk to him.
[02:11:06]  He's only got two hours.
[02:11:08]  So they go through the whole thing.
[02:11:10]  And you can read this.
[02:11:10]  This is all on the website.
[02:11:12]  And this is like right after 9-11, right?
[02:11:15]  No, it's a while.
[02:11:17]  This is a while later.
[02:11:18]  Like this happens in about 10 years.
[02:11:20]  This is 2011 now.
[02:11:21]  By the time they get them on the stand, Keem Mike Mueller's been constantly putting this off.
[02:11:25]  Yeah.
[02:11:26]  You know, I have meetings with the White House.
[02:11:28]  So finally they say, we'll do a conference.
[02:11:30]  They do a conference.
[02:11:31]  It's only going to be two hours.
[02:11:32]  So, okay.
[02:11:33]  They ask basically, yeah, let's try to summarize that.
[02:11:36]  Okay, summarize the whole thing is that they start asking him questions.
[02:11:39]  Did they talk about this?
[02:11:40]  Did they talk about this?
[02:11:42]  So, this is the one that I love.
[02:11:44]  So, he's expecting him to say, you know, he's like, he's like, I'm expecting him to say that I just what happened.
[02:11:50]  Yeah.
[02:11:51]  Just say what you're talking about.
[02:11:52]  Come clean.
[02:11:53]  He has no choice.
[02:11:54]  Did Mr. Rossini ever flat out deny he was involved in the murder of Ellenberger or Estes?
[02:12:01]  Did he ever deny it?
[02:12:03]  No.
[02:12:03]  To the contrary, he implicated himself substantially in both of those murders.
[02:12:10]  What about the notes?
[02:12:12]  Oh, yeah.
[02:12:12]  Does Mueller not know?
[02:12:14]  Mueller says.
[02:12:14]  Mueller doesn't know they found the notes.
[02:12:16]  Oh, okay.
[02:12:17]  That's what I'm saying right here because they ask him, Did you review this?
[02:12:20]  No.
[02:12:20]  Did you review this?
[02:12:21]  No.
[02:12:21]  We sent you this.
[02:12:21]  Did you review?
[02:12:22]  No, no.
[02:12:23]  He's like, All I looked at was the 302.
[02:12:25]  Because he knows because he probably helped craft the 302.
[02:12:29]  Right, right.
[02:12:29]  Of course.
[02:12:30]  So then they start going through, and if you read it on the thing, and in the book, if you read it on the website, which I mean, I know we're trying to wrap up.
[02:12:37]  So he ends up saying, He says, Oh, Rossini downplayed his role substantially.
[02:12:44]  He did this, he did that.
[02:12:46]  Then they start saying, So it starts to become obvious as they're asking the questions about corruption and were you involved in this?
[02:12:52]  Were you looking at this?
[02:12:53]  Were you looking at this?
[02:12:53]  He starts to realize something's up.
[02:12:56]  Yeah.
[02:12:58]  He's got to know something.
[02:12:59]  So it's like then he starts immediately saying, when they start asking about corruption, law enforcement, investigation, did you look into this?
[02:13:08]  Did you know who this person was?
[02:13:10]  Did you know who this person was?
[02:13:12]  So they start asking about Harrison and Nason, right, and Rossini, preparing him to testify.
[02:13:19]  They start asking about all these different things.
[02:13:21]  And one of the things they start asking is about the, about, he's like, they're like, why would you go see him?
[02:13:28]  Well, we wanted to make sure that we were going to prosecute the right person.
[02:13:31]  Right.
[02:13:32]  You didn't.
[02:13:33]  Right.
[02:13:34]  So what he told you was completely contradictory to that.
[02:13:37]  So he says, did you review all of the notes?
[02:13:41]  He's like, no.
[02:13:43]  How about the law enforcement reports?
[02:13:45]  Did you review those?
[02:13:46]  Law enforcement reports, I reviewed the 302.
[02:13:50]  Did you talk to Agent Burroughs or anyone under this thing?
[02:13:53]  He says, not that I recall.
[02:13:54]  I say, yeah, I haven't talked to anybody.
[02:13:57]  He's in Washington.
[02:13:59]  These guys aren't called.
[02:14:00]  You can't call the FBI director.
[02:14:01]  It doesn't matter who the fuck you are, unless you're the president.
[02:14:04]  And nobody thinks anything's wrong.
[02:14:07]  A lot of these guys are just going about their normal day.
[02:14:09]  They don't realize this guy's going to get on the stand and say all this fucked up shit.
[02:14:13]  So when you went to talk to Rossini, do you recall Farsione, Barrera, or Blum about the investigation?
[02:14:22]  He says, I'm not certain.

=== Contradictory Statements and Reviews (06:54) ===

[02:14:24]  See what I'm saying?
[02:14:25]  Now he's starting, I'm not certain.
[02:14:26]  It's been too long.
[02:14:27]  I can't remember.
[02:14:28]  Can't recall.
[02:14:29]  He starts doing all that shit.
[02:14:30]  I can't recall.
[02:14:31]  I can't recall.
[02:14:32]  What about Farshione?
[02:14:33]  What about this, the case?
[02:14:34]  Not that I'm not saying, you know.
[02:14:36]  So he starts fumbling and fumbling and fumbling.
[02:14:38]  My favorite part is when he starts to kind of get him into a jam.
[02:14:43]  He says, I don't recall like 100 times.
[02:14:46]  I don't recall.
[02:14:46]  At this present time, I do not recall what I was thinking or in my mind at the time.
[02:14:51]  He's like, Do you remember reading this where they were saying it was about corruption?
[02:14:55]  They were talking about, they were focusing in on corruption and this and this.
[02:14:58]  He says, Do you recall at this point having read that or not?
[02:15:02]  He said, I don't recall, but I can tell you.
[02:15:05]  I adamantly disagree.
[02:15:08]  Mueller basically snaps.
[02:15:10]  A police officer did not pull the trigger or kill.
[02:15:14]  And he cuts him off.
[02:15:15]  He's like, I'm not saying he did.
[02:15:17]  He pulls out the handwritten notes.
[02:15:20]  And they start going over the handwritten notes.
[02:15:22]  Who starts pulling it?
[02:15:23]  The lawyer?
[02:15:23]  The lawyer.
[02:15:24]  Yeah.
[02:15:24]  Rossini's lawyer.
[02:15:25]  Rossini's lawyer.
[02:15:25]  Yeah, yeah.
[02:15:26]  And he starts to show him the notes.
[02:15:28]  Shows them to Mueller?
[02:15:28]  And then he just fucking turns into, listen, I don't remember nothing.
[02:15:33]  I don't remember.
[02:15:34]  Fifth!
[02:15:35]  I plead the fifth!
[02:15:36]  Yeah.
[02:15:37]  Did you discuss this?
[02:15:39]  You know, recall.
[02:15:41]  I could have.
[02:15:42]  Then it becomes, I could have.
[02:15:43]  I don't have.
[02:15:45]  I don't recall today.
[02:15:47]  If it's in Bruce's 302, we did.
[02:15:49]  Right.
[02:15:50]  He keeps going back to the 302.
[02:15:52]  That looks good.
[02:15:52]  Because he knows, well, of course he crafted it.
[02:15:54]  He's safe there.
[02:15:55]  Yep.
[02:15:55]  If they crafted it, we know we have to say that's my safe place.
[02:15:58]  Yep.
[02:15:58]  It's perfect.
[02:15:59]  Right.
[02:15:59]  That's all I read.
[02:16:00]  Yep.
[02:16:01]  So he starts talking about testimony.
[02:16:03]  He's like, if you read the whole thing, everything that Rossini said was correct.
[02:16:08]  And he's really, really trying to.
[02:16:10]  Back out of the whole thing.
[02:16:11]  And so it just becomes a whole bunch of I don't recall, I don't know.
[02:16:15]  Well, what about this note?
[02:16:16]  What about this?
[02:16:16]  He's like, I don't know what was in Bruce's mind when he wrote that.
[02:16:20]  I don't recall.
[02:16:21]  What did you do after Rossini told you all this?
[02:16:25]  Did you launch any investigation at all?
[02:16:28]  You went to Leavenworth and the guy just told you that the FBI officer is the one that basically, you know, officer or agent, whatever.
[02:16:39]  Yeah, they conspired to help commit this murder or that they leaked the information.
[02:16:43]  Did you look into that at all?
[02:16:45]  And he's like, well, we may have.
[02:16:47]  It's possible we could have.
[02:16:49]  Because he knows it doesn't look good if I didn't follow that up.
[02:16:51]  Well, we already know Burroughs said in his transcript, we didn't look into any of that.
[02:16:56]  Because he's saying that didn't even happen.
[02:16:58]  He's saying, now we know it happened.
[02:17:00]  Did you look into it?
[02:17:02]  And he's like, well, we could have, maybe, possibly.
[02:17:04]  There may have been a separate investigation.
[02:17:05]  No, no, we're talking about this investigation.
[02:17:08]  I don't recall.
[02:17:08]  I don't know.
[02:17:09]  It's very probable it occurred.
[02:17:12]  So they go on and on.
[02:17:14]  I mean, it just, bro, it just, it goes on and on.
[02:17:17]  In the end, he just, it reverts.
[02:17:19]  To him just saying, I don't recall, I don't recall, I don't know, I don't recall, I don't recall.
[02:17:24]  And if you read the whole thing, and I know we can't read the whole thing, I know it's ridiculous.
[02:17:30]  It ain't good.
[02:17:31]  And this is a condensed version.
[02:17:33]  Keep in mind, this is 136 pages, almost all Mueller saying, I don't recall, I don't recall, unless you say something bad about an FBI agent, and then he says, That is absolutely untrue.
[02:17:45]  Meanwhile, there's notes from his meeting with Pete.
[02:17:49]  That basically contradicts everything that he's saying.
[02:17:52]  Everything he's saying, they've got notes that say, yeah, exactly.
[02:17:56]  There were payoffs, there were murders.
[02:17:58]  Farcion saying we're not to murder him here.
[02:18:01]  Make sure they don't find the body.
[02:18:03]  Didn't even look at it.
[02:18:03]  50 grand here.
[02:18:04]  Doesn't even look at it.
[02:18:06]  So after the two hours is up, then what happens?
[02:18:09]  After this proceeding is over, they run out of time.
[02:18:12]  They gave two hours with Mueller.
[02:18:14]  Mueller basically wasted two hours saying, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
[02:18:18]  So where do they go from there?
[02:18:19]  Well, he ends up getting resentenced.
[02:18:22]  Basically, they go to Pete and they go through the whole thing.
[02:18:25]  They end up saying he gets resentenced.
[02:18:30]  The judge knocks it down to like, he goes from like 40 years to like 36, to 35 years.
[02:18:38]  So it's like 40 to 35?
[02:18:40]  Five off?
[02:18:41]  Fuck.
[02:18:42]  Nothing.
[02:18:42]  So he, Pete, appeals it.
[02:18:45]  He gets it.
[02:18:46]  Again.
[02:18:46]  Again.
[02:18:47]  He appeals it.
[02:18:49]  They say, the appellate court says, we're going to let you talk to this guy.
[02:18:53]  We're going to let you bring Mueller back untimed as long as it takes.
[02:18:58]  So that's one of the things they win.
[02:18:59]  Like, you can't limit them.
[02:19:01]  Yeah.
[02:19:01]  So, His attorney basically is the new attorney's like, Look, they call up the Wilson Leone.
[02:19:08]  What is this, like a third attorney?
[02:19:09]  Yeah, yeah.
[02:19:10]  So they call up the U.S. attorney and they say, Look, we're bringing Mueller back.
[02:19:15]  He is, I'm going to keep him on the fucking stand a couple days now.
[02:19:17]  Really dig in hard.
[02:19:19]  The guy's like, All right, listen, calm down.
[02:19:21]  Let's work this out.
[02:19:22]  Let's work this out.
[02:19:23]  So they end up eventually realizing that this is it.
[02:19:30]  We're done.
[02:19:31]  They're going to bring Mueller back.
[02:19:32]  They've got the notes.
[02:19:33]  So the U.S. attorney comes back and Pete said he was really.
[02:19:36]  Irritating because he's like, I really wanted Mueller to get back on the stand.
[02:19:38]  But they basically file a stipulation.
[02:19:41]  The government concedes that what Mueller said was inaccurate.
[02:19:46]  And, you know, they don't say lie.
[02:19:48]  Yeah.
[02:19:48]  He materially misrepresented the facts of the case, you know, that kind of bullshit.
[02:19:53]  So basically, that what he said was inconsistent with the notes, inconsistent with what actually happened.
[02:20:01]  And it talks about, so they concede a whole bunch of stuff and they agree that everything that Pete said that he denied.
[02:20:10]  He denied it.
[02:20:12]  He denied that he had done all that, that he conspired to do anything, to kill anybody, that he talked about.
[02:20:19]  They basically concede everything that actually happened.
[02:20:23]  They bring Pete back again and put him in front of the court again.
[02:20:31]  Once again, the U.S. attorneys come in.
[02:20:34]  They basically misrepresent what actually happened and they try and confuse the issues and they say it's all Pete's fault because he was a leader organizer, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[02:20:45]  It's all him.
[02:20:45]  It's all him.
[02:20:48]  And he gets sentenced again.
[02:20:50]  I think this time it drops to 34 years.
[02:20:56]  They knock a year off.
[02:20:57]  I think they give him 34 years.
[02:20:59]  I think he finally ends up with 34 years.
[02:21:01]  They've resentenced him like three years.
[02:21:03]  So currently at this date, he's 34 years.
[02:21:06]  So what is Rossini's state of mind right now?
[02:21:09]  After all this, all these years of going through all this bullshit, where is he at if you were to talk to him right now?
[02:21:16]  What's his position on it like right now?
[02:21:17]  How does he feel about it?
[02:21:18]  How does he feel?

=== Resentencing Drops to Thirty Four Years (03:29) ===

[02:21:19]  You know what he feels like?
[02:21:20]  You know what he's most upset about is that at one point, at one point when he was being resentenced, the government brings back, not the last, I don't think it was the last resentencing.
[02:21:32]  I think it was, no, I do.
[02:21:33]  I think it was the last resentencing.
[02:21:35]  They bring in all of the family members.
[02:21:39]  Like the.
[02:21:39]  Okay, yeah, yeah.
[02:21:40]  Yeah, they bring them all in and they let them in.
[02:21:43]  Ellenberger.
[02:21:43]  Yeah, Ellenberger's family.
[02:21:45]  The other guy.
[02:21:46]  Estes family comes in, his sister comes in, his brother, everybody comes in, they all get to be in there.
[02:21:52]  And well, just prior to being resentenced, the U.S. attorney actually said to Pete's attorney, hey, by the way, it was either the Ellenberger family or the Estes family.
[02:22:04]  The families basically wanted to talk to your client.
[02:22:07]  I told them that you wouldn't agree to it.
[02:22:09]  And his lawyer says, no, absolutely not.
[02:22:11]  No, he didn't want to talk to them.
[02:22:14]  And that's it.
[02:22:15]  So then he tells, oh, yeah, by the way, you cannot believe this.
[02:22:18]  He tells Pete, by the way, can you believe they wanted to talk to you?
[02:22:24]  You know, the SCs or whoever wanted to talk to you.
[02:22:26]  Pete's right.
[02:22:27]  And Pete goes, Yeah, I want to talk to him.
[02:22:29]  Yeah.
[02:22:29]  And he's like, What?
[02:22:31]  What do you mean?
[02:22:31]  He goes, I want to talk to him.
[02:22:33]  He's like, Why?
[02:22:33]  He said, Because I want to explain to him what happened.
[02:22:37]  Yeah.
[02:22:37]  You know what I'm saying?
[02:22:38]  Right.
[02:22:38]  They think he killed him.
[02:22:39]  Right.
[02:22:39]  He's like, I want to explain that, you know, like he loved John.
[02:22:43]  Right.
[02:22:43]  They were best friends.
[02:22:44]  Yeah, they were best friends.
[02:22:45]  I mean, the guy was a fuck up.
[02:22:47]  But, you know, but he's like, But we'd been friends forever.
[02:22:50]  Yeah.
[02:22:51]  He's like, and, you know, he's like, I used to stay over at his, you know, house.
[02:22:54]  All the time.
[02:22:55]  We would eat.
[02:22:56]  I knew his family.
[02:22:56]  I knew he was just staying at our place all the time.
[02:22:58]  My mom would cook him fucking spaghetti.
[02:23:00]  He's like, I mean, we were friends.
[02:23:02]  And now he's like, his family thinks I fucking killed him.
[02:23:07]  I would like them to look me in the face so I could tell them I didn't do this.
[02:23:11]  So then his attorney goes back and talks to the U.S. attorney and tries to get the U.S. attorney to contact them.
[02:23:16]  And he's like, no, no, forget it.
[02:23:17]  Don't worry about it.
[02:23:18]  I talked to him.
[02:23:18]  They don't want to stay.
[02:23:19]  I talked to him.
[02:23:20]  They don't want to talk to him anymore.
[02:23:21]  I told him that he didn't want to.
[02:23:22]  So now they're done.
[02:23:24]  And so Pete's like, he's like, I would love to tell them.
[02:23:28]  That I didn't do this, that this didn't happen.
[02:23:31]  He's like I mean, you know it's, I don't want to do the next five or six years.
[02:23:34]  You know that he's got at this point.
[02:23:36]  It's like I don't want to do that.
[02:23:39]  But at this point you've been locked up so long.
[02:23:41]  Yeah right, might as well ride it out now.
[02:23:43]  Yeah well, you know, and you don't, you won't, you would.
[02:23:47]  The last five six, seven years is not nearly as hard as the first part.
[02:23:51]  Once you hit that, once you get over that that hill, you know, once you're over the hump it's, it's a huge weight off of you.
[02:24:00]  And he's coming down just at the end.
[02:24:01]  I mean, he's practically walking around, thinking like, feeling like i'm getting out soon.
[02:24:05]  It's five years, he's got five years left yeah, and you're thinking that.
[02:24:09]  But that's how you feel like oh yeah yeah, i'm getting out of here soon soon, it's five years.
[02:24:14]  Most people get five years.
[02:24:15]  They want to kill themselves.
[02:24:16]  Yeah, five years is nothing.
[02:24:17]  After 20 it's not.
[02:24:18]  Oh right, so have you talked to him recently?
[02:24:22]  Um, I was talking to him up until the point when my probation officer told me I couldn't talk to him.
[02:24:29]  Okay, so not allowed to talk to.
[02:24:32]  Yeah, you know, I didn't think it was an issue because we were working on a book together yeah, doing the true crime thing, and and you know, but she's uh, I don't know, she's uh, she's opposed to it.
[02:24:45]  So she's not your biggest fan no no, and she doesn't like the books.

=== Fox News Audio and Crime (13:57) ===

[02:24:48]  She keeps telling me she's rooting for me, but I haven't seen it.
[02:24:53]  Uh, so yeah, so no, I haven't, I haven't uh.
[02:24:58]  Well, if she's watching this, i'm sure she's a very nice lady.
[02:25:01]  She yeah, she is.
[02:25:02]  She's very polite, she's very nice, she's very.
[02:25:05]  I think I'm just, she's just.
[02:25:06]  So you can see that you're trying to, you know.
[02:25:08]  I think she's concerned about me.
[02:25:09]  I stole $11.5 million the last time I was on board.
[02:25:12]  Yeah, right.
[02:25:13]  They tend to get upset about that.
[02:25:16]  So, yeah.
[02:25:18]  So, but, you know, here's the thing is that it's like this guy, this guy's in prison for something that he, look, like I said, I mean, I don't know if I said this, I don't think we're on camera or not, but, you know, the two guys that committed the murders, Ate Thanksgiving with their families.
[02:25:37]  Yeah.
[02:25:37]  Right.
[02:25:38]  Pete had a holiday meal in the fucking chow hall.
[02:25:40]  Right.
[02:25:40]  His mother came to see him.
[02:25:43]  You know what I mean?
[02:25:43]  I mean, your mother drives an hour and a half, two hours to come see you.
[02:25:46]  It's bullshit.
[02:25:47]  Yeah.
[02:25:49]  And all them guys know it, that he can do it.
[02:25:51]  Right.
[02:25:51]  And here's the thing.
[02:25:53]  And so the people that actually, the FBI agents and the informant and the people that actually committed the whole murder and the frame-up, these guys are at home with their families.
[02:26:12]  It doesn't make sense.
[02:26:14]  And Mueller getting on the stand and saying some bullshit, if you read the book, it clarifies it really well where he's just complete.
[02:26:23]  It's just bullshit.
[02:26:24]  He didn't know the notes existed.
[02:26:25]  He's ready to fucking bury Rossini.
[02:26:27]  He could have cut him fucking loose.
[02:26:28]  He could have said, This man did an amazing job.
[02:26:30]  You need to cut it.
[02:26:31]  He could have right then said, You got to cut his sentence.
[02:26:33]  It's a great, he really helped us.
[02:26:35]  He this, he that.
[02:26:36]  I mean, he could have pushed it.
[02:26:36]  Instead, he did the opposite, keep him in fucking prison.
[02:26:40]  He didn't kill anybody.
[02:26:42]  Jesus.
[02:26:43]  Even if he did what you said he did, you gave him 40 years.
[02:26:46]  Yeah.
[02:26:46]  The guy's like, The killers are already out.
[02:26:48]  Yeah.
[02:26:48]  So, you know, as far as Aria is concerned, there's some evidence there that, Definitely that points to Arya, or maybe Nason just accidentally, like he said at one point, he accidentally did.
[02:26:59]  Was he a hitman?
[02:27:00]  Did he accidentally?
[02:27:01]  I don't know.
[02:27:02]  Now, where's Nason and Harrison now?
[02:27:03]  They're both out.
[02:27:05]  They're out.
[02:27:05]  They got out like last year, the year before.
[02:27:07]  Okay.
[02:27:08]  Both of them.
[02:27:09]  So I just, you know, and what's so fucked up is that, like I told you, I sent this all over the place.
[02:27:20]  Like Fox News looked at it.
[02:27:22]  The investigator for Fox News, Really looked at it for about a month or so.
[02:27:25]  I mean, I'm sorry, for a week or so.
[02:27:26]  And then he contacted me on the phone, and then we talked on the phone, and I was trying to explain it.
[02:27:30]  And I could tell he didn't understand.
[02:27:33]  He wasn't asking the right questions.
[02:27:35]  And his issue in the end was he was asking questions that were like, okay, well, yeah, but we can't prove the phone numbers are this.
[02:27:42]  Yes, we can.
[02:27:43]  I have the directory that says it was this.
[02:27:46]  I have the homicide detectives wrote down the phone number for Barrero and Farsion.
[02:27:53]  Those are the right numbers.
[02:27:54]  I assure you.
[02:27:54]  I have.
[02:27:55]  You know, well, and then he switched to something else, and then he switched to something else.
[02:27:58]  Well, I'm not sure that that's really, Mueller's really committed a crime.
[02:28:02]  I don't, didn't say, I don't know that he's committed a crime.
[02:28:05]  I'm not sure what you would call framing someone or allowing it to continue.
[02:28:11]  But you know what I do know?
[02:28:12]  I know that it's ethically and morally wrong, is that at the very least, I think that people should know that this is what really happened and that he should have done the right thing.
[02:28:25]  He still could do the right thing.
[02:28:28]  You know, that he could have fixed it.
[02:28:30]  He didn't.
[02:28:30]  He's continuing to allow this to move forward and have this guy serve out a sentence that he never should have been involved in.
[02:28:38]  Keep in mind the guys that were involved in his drug conspiracy, these guys got a year.
[02:28:44]  Yeah.
[02:28:46]  They got five years.
[02:28:48]  One guy who'd just gotten out of federal prison like four or five years earlier, who'd been in federal prison a couple of times and the state, massive amount of drugs because he was willing to cooperate.
[02:28:59]  He got like eight or nine years, ended up getting out in like seven years, six years.
[02:29:03]  I mean, all of these guys got minor, minor sentences that Pete should have ended up getting.
[02:29:09]  Yeah.
[02:29:10]  He had the big one.
[02:29:11]  Right.
[02:29:11]  40 years.
[02:29:12]  Let's keep him in jail.
[02:29:13]  Why?
[02:29:14]  You can see that it was a complete frame job.
[02:29:18]  Everybody's admitting that.
[02:29:19]  Right.
[02:29:20]  So, you know, my problem is one, Pete's in prison.
[02:29:22]  Two, nobody gives a fuck.
[02:29:25]  I sent it to Fox News.
[02:29:26]  They looked in it.
[02:29:27]  And in the end, what Fox News is, I think, what it boiled down to was that.
[02:29:34]  Basically, the guy said, Look, the problem is, he said, I don't know about all these documents.
[02:29:40]  He said, Some of them are, a lot of them are sealed.
[02:29:43]  Pete's got them.
[02:29:44]  I have them.
[02:29:45]  But the fact of the matter is, he doesn't like the idea that I was involved.
[02:29:49]  So, you personally, me personally, right?
[02:29:53]  Because you got to pass in a record exactly.
[02:29:55]  Secondly, he said, We cannot, he goes, I, I, we cannot move forward with something like this.
[02:30:01]  He goes, Because it's such, it's such a big allegation, it's such a bombshell that we can't get it wrong.
[02:30:08]  So, what you did was you read the book, you looked through some documents, and that's all he did.
[02:30:14]  He called, I think he called Vermelon, which was a lawyer, Vermelon, which was the lawyer to ask Vermelon.
[02:30:20]  Vermelon wouldn't, wouldn't respond to him.
[02:30:23]  You know, I mean, you're not going to talk about your client's case.
[02:30:25]  Right.
[02:30:26]  Nor do I think that, keep in mind, he probably doesn't want to talk to him anyway because if it has anything to do with Mueller.
[02:30:31]  Now, what this stuff getting out, like say Fox News did run this or a big network like CNN or whatever ran a story like this, what would happen?
[02:30:39]  What would happen to Mueller?
[02:30:40]  Nothing would happen to him.
[02:30:40]  Nothing would happen to him.
[02:30:41]  Right.
[02:30:42]  But what it would show is that, look, he didn't follow up the leads.
[02:30:48]  What you do, if you lay out a whole bunch of information and you just stick with what further is your agenda, You're going to come up with a file full of facts and documents that prove whatever you want proven.
[02:31:03]  You ignore the other ones.
[02:31:06]  So you can easily shape any investigation.
[02:31:10]  And that's what he did was he shifted blame.
[02:31:12]  He shaped the investigation.
[02:31:14]  He stuck it on this guy to avoid any involvement of the FBI to further his agenda.
[02:31:22]  And that's what it boils down to.
[02:31:23]  And so this guy, so Pete Rossini has to sit in prison.
[02:31:27]  And the problem is, this is one example of shit that happens probably every day in the FBI and in the U.S. prison system.
[02:31:35]  Like, there's so many people.
[02:31:36]  He's just one guy out of a million.
[02:31:38]  Yeah, I mean, I hate to say that because it's like, look, listen, if you're in prison, there's about a 99.99% chance you're supposed to be in prison.
[02:31:49]  I've met very few people that were innocent.
[02:31:52]  He's not innocent.
[02:31:53]  Pete's not innocent.
[02:31:54]  Pete's a drug dealer.
[02:31:55]  He shouldn't have got 40 years, he should have got 10 years.
[02:31:58]  Maybe.
[02:31:58]  And he helped his 20.
[02:31:59]  He helped throw the body away in the dumpster, right?
[02:32:02]  He disposed of the body.
[02:32:04]  He disposed of the body.
[02:32:05]  And that's a horrible thing.
[02:32:07]  That's prison time.
[02:32:08]  Definitely prison time.
[02:32:09]  But he's serving his sentence.
[02:32:10]  Fine, give him 20 years.
[02:32:11]  Cut the fucking guy loose.
[02:32:12]  Right.
[02:32:13]  You know, here's the problem is that the podcast, like people will watch this and they'll try and pull.
[02:32:19]  They're very polarized.
[02:32:20]  They're Democrats.
[02:32:21]  They're Republicans.
[02:32:22]  To me, it's not a Democrat.
[02:32:23]  It's not a Republican.
[02:32:24]  What is Mueller?
[02:32:25]  Is he a Republican?
[02:32:26]  He's actually a Republican.
[02:32:27]  But Democrats and Republicans just love him.
[02:32:29]  Everybody loves him.
[02:32:30]  Okay.
[02:32:31]  Why?
[02:32:32]  Do you know why?
[02:32:33]  No idea why.
[02:32:35]  I think it's just because he's all around a government guy.
[02:32:38]  He's got great credentials.
[02:32:40]  Yeah.
[02:32:40]  He's got the good resume.
[02:32:44]  Marine Corps officer.
[02:32:45]  Volunteer for NOM.
[02:32:48]  He's a patriot.
[02:32:49]  Yeah, I can say bad things like that because smearing my.
[02:32:52]  I remember it's funny.
[02:32:53]  I actually called a guy, a reporter, and told him about this.
[02:32:57]  Let me tell you the conversation real quick.
[02:32:59]  The conversation was I told him the whole thing and all the evidence that I had, but I never used Mueller's name.
[02:33:05]  I just said the U.S. attorney did this and U.S. attorney said this and this and the notes and this and this.
[02:33:09]  And he goes, oh my God, can you prove this?
[02:33:11]  Can you prove that?
[02:33:12]  I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:33:13]  And I'm going, he was all excited.
[02:33:14]  He goes, man, this is great, Matt.
[02:33:15]  Can you send me that stuff?
[02:33:16]  That's great.
[02:33:17]  That's great.
[02:33:17]  I was like, yeah, there's only one problem.
[02:33:18]  He goes, what's the problem?
[02:33:19]  And I go, well, the problem is the U.S. attorney was Robert Mueller.
[02:33:22]  And he goes, why would Mueller do that?
[02:33:24]  I go, well, what?
[02:33:26]  Well, because I just told you it was like it was politically motivated, I think.
[02:33:30]  I don't know exactly.
[02:33:30]  Yeah, but I mean, Matt, he's got a seller reputation.
[02:33:33]  Why would he do that?
[02:33:34]  I mean, it doesn't even make sense.
[02:33:35]  Suddenly, everything that I said that he was excited about, Bloop.
[02:33:39]  Turn.
[02:33:40]  Right, man.
[02:33:41]  That's crazy.
[02:33:43]  He didn't ask me for anything to send him anything after that.
[02:33:46]  And I knew right then.
[02:33:47]  And he even sent me an email where he said, Look, you might want to send that to Breitbart or Fox News or one of those guys.
[02:33:54]  But I mean, if you really, he was mad if you really expect to be, you know, to try and become a journalist at some point, he said, I mean, you need to really think about who you're, you know, basically who you're getting in bed with.
[02:34:04]  I was like, It's nothing to do with fucking.
[02:34:07]  Because all them news stations are politically owned by a lot of those people at the end of the day.
[02:34:12]  But I was like, I can't believe that you're going to ignore.
[02:34:15]  Anyway, my point is that.
[02:34:18]  Look, what I would love to see happen, free Pete.
[02:34:21]  I would love, free Pete, baby.
[02:34:23]  Yeah.
[02:34:23]  I would love to see, I would love to see people, obviously, buy the book.
[02:34:30]  Yeah.
[02:34:31]  Look at the, look at the exhibits.
[02:34:33]  Yeah.
[02:34:33]  Fact check it.
[02:34:34]  But send it.
[02:34:35]  But, but to, to share this with, like, share it with 10 people and ask them to share it with 10 people and ask them to share it with the 10 people.
[02:34:42]  Because, look, I don't care if it's going to conservatives or, um, uh, Or liberals, or whoever it is, but if you got the message out there and could maybe somehow or another, there are avenues to cut him loose, is what I'm saying.
[02:34:59]  Right, right.
[02:34:59]  This could help him.
[02:35:01]  Right.
[02:35:01]  First of all, he still has the ability to file a 2255.
[02:35:04]  Yeah.
[02:35:04]  He can file a 2255 because he's got a super strong argument that one, he pled guilty to this, and Mueller had him enter into an agreement with saying something completely opposite, which basically.
[02:35:17]  He didn't hold up.
[02:35:18]  Right.
[02:35:18]  So, what ends up happening is he has the ability to get his sentence.
[02:35:22]  basically quashed or reduced.
[02:35:26]  It's a simple motion from the government.
[02:35:28]  Fuck, Trump could fucking pardon him.
[02:35:30]  You know, I mean, I'm just saying it'd be great if this got forwarded to as many people as possible.
[02:35:36]  Yeah, Trump.
[02:35:37]  I don't think he watches any podcasts.
[02:35:39]  Yeah.
[02:35:40]  But I mean, it would be great if it got forwarded to as many people as possible until something happened.
[02:35:46]  Yeah.
[02:35:46]  You know, for Pete, because he's really, I think at the, you know, in the back of the book, I say, I want to say, I say he's being released in October.
[02:35:57]  I think it's October 2025.
[02:35:59]  Okay.
[02:35:59]  Not 24.
[02:36:00]  Might have been 24.
[02:36:02]  I'll have to check.
[02:36:03]  Okay.
[02:36:03]  Might be 24.
[02:36:04]  So, yeah, October 2024.
[02:36:07]  Man.
[02:36:07]  What a.
[02:36:08]  I mean, that's.
[02:36:09]  I mean, and he's already done 20 something years.
[02:36:11]  Yeah, goddamn.
[02:36:12]  It's almost.
[02:36:13]  Right.
[02:36:14]  That's fucked.
[02:36:15]  You know, his mom comes to see him like every two weeks, just like my mom used to come.
[02:36:18]  We used to see each other all the time.
[02:36:20]  How old is he?
[02:36:21]  Pete's 50.
[02:36:22]  He's 50 now.
[02:36:22]  He was exactly my age.
[02:36:24]  Wow.
[02:36:25]  Yeah.
[02:36:26]  So, yeah, so I mean, that's it's definitely, you know, and here's the whole thing don't even believe me.
[02:36:31]  Just look at the evidence.
[02:36:32]  Read the book, look at the evidence.
[02:36:34]  You don't have to believe me.
[02:36:35]  I'm just some scumbag.
[02:36:36]  I mean, I have no problem with you saying, oh, I don't fucking believe it.
[02:36:39]  Okay, great.
[02:36:39]  Don't believe me.
[02:36:40]  Yeah.
[02:36:41]  Read the book.
[02:36:41]  The facts are there.
[02:36:42]  It's not even a big book.
[02:36:44]  Yeah.
[02:36:44]  It's an abridgment of a larger book.
[02:36:46]  It's like 110 pages.
[02:36:49]  It's a joke.
[02:36:49]  There's footnotes.
[02:36:51]  They all correlate with the exhibits.
[02:36:55]  So, that's that's where I'm at.
[02:36:58]  And keep in mind, Things could go bad for me.
[02:37:00]  I could get violated.
[02:37:02]  For all I know, they may come after me.
[02:37:03]  We were talking about getting killed.
[02:37:05]  Yeah.
[02:37:07]  So, yeah.
[02:37:08]  So, anyway, definitely.
[02:37:09]  Don't come after us, please.
[02:37:10]  Yeah.
[02:37:11]  You know.
[02:37:11]  Don't kill the messenger.
[02:37:12]  Yeah.
[02:37:13]  You could always.
[02:37:14]  They could always come up with some reason.
[02:37:16]  Right.
[02:37:16]  Yeah.
[02:37:17]  Some reason to violate something.
[02:37:18]  It's not hard to violate something.
[02:37:19]  On probation.
[02:37:20]  It's not hard to say.
[02:37:21]  Yeah.
[02:37:22]  We decided you got to go back for six months.
[02:37:23]  Yeah.
[02:37:23]  We don't like what you're doing.
[02:37:24]  Right.
[02:37:25]  Wow.
[02:37:26]  Well, thank you for coming in here and telling the story.
[02:37:28]  Hell yeah.
[02:37:28]  It was a bombshell.
[02:37:29]  I hope a lot of people can share it.
[02:37:31]  And learn more about this, and we need to fucking free Pete.
[02:37:36]  He's such a good guy.
[02:37:38]  He only moved the body.
[02:37:40]  Yeah, he only moved the body.
[02:37:41]  It's an amazing story.
[02:37:43]  You know, everyone, like, they can go down there.
[02:37:45]  They can order the book.
[02:37:46]  Soon, you're going to have an audio version of it available.
[02:37:49]  We're going to help you record some audio stuff.
[02:37:50]  Yeah.
[02:37:51]  For Matt.
[02:37:52]  He's got a YouTube channel.
[02:37:53]  Subscribe to Matt's YouTube channel because he's going to have some audio book.
[02:37:58]  You're going to put some audio recordings on there soon.
[02:38:00]  Yeah.
[02:38:00]  I'm going to take some of the actual stuff that's on my website, Inside True Crime.
[02:38:03]  I'm actually going to do an audio version and put those up so that you can, you know, because nobody reads.
[02:38:07]  Right.
[02:38:08]  No, they want to listen to the story.
[02:38:09]  They want to drive and listen.
[02:38:11]  Yeah.
[02:38:11]  Is that a podcast or is that just an audio book?
[02:38:13]  Yeah.
[02:38:13]  It's an audio book.
[02:38:14]  Audio book podcast.
[02:38:15]  Yeah.
[02:38:15]  It's not really a book.
[02:38:16]  though they're just synopsis audio it's just a story it's a story yeah short stories whatever well stories subscribe to his youtube channel buy the book devil exposed on amazon check out his website inside true crime and uh what's the exhibits website oh uh devil exposed exhibits.com.com there'll be a link in fact check them yourself yep that's right all right man thanks again matt hopefully uh we can tell another story again here in the future yeah sorry i had to rush through this that's completely danny's fault all right good night everyone thank you