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The Legend of Zeldin and the Common Sense Agenda, Interviews with Lee Zeldin & Sean Davis | Triggered Ep241
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This week we found out inflation is down, gas prices are down, while the future of America is looking way, way up.
So today we'll get into all of it with EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin and the Federalist CEO Sean Davis.
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Guys, joining me now, EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin.
Now, Lee, you know, I didn't see this because the EPA is one of these interesting places, right?
You just, you guys are crushing it.
You're getting rid of so much of the nonsense just exposing it.
I mean, every day I look at Twitter, Zeldin's doing this.
You're going to live up to your nickname amongst some of our little group chats over the years, the legend of Zeldin.
I think you're going to go down as a huge part of this administration, as a huge part of getting rid of some of this nonsense.
You made a lot of Americans happy this week, Lee, with your announcement on start-stop technology, literally the dumbest feature in the history of automobiles.
I don't know anyone that likes it.
The previous EPA approved it, but everyone hates it.
What are you guys doing about it?
It might be the single dumbest feature in the history of putting features in our motor vehicles.
And the hatred out there from across this country comes in hot.
It's certainly quite frustrating when you experience it yourself.
You're sitting at an intersection and it stops, but imagine you have one of these vehicles where as soon as your vehicle turns on, you have to turn it off.
Every single time, you start scratching your head and that's government working for you.
And you start asking, well, what's the impact on my battery, on my starter, on the quality of other parts?
How much gas is this really saving?
Yeah, but how much gas is it really saving?
Because, you know, this feature drives me nuts.
Like, I literally, like, look to cars that don't have it because...
You know, there's nothing worse than being at a red light and you move your foot a little bit off the brake.
The car doesn't even move and it starts back up.
And you're right.
Like I'm saying, you know, my starter is going to get destroyed.
Can't be awesome for the battery, although your alternator, I guess, will charge the battery.
But when I think of the savings in fuel, I can't imagine it outweighs having to replace your starter every two years.
Yeah, no, 100 percent, I agree.
And then on top of it, if anyone was looking for a tiebreaker, well, the American public doesn't want it.
I mean, most Americans are demanding that this get out of their vehicles.
And shouldn't that matter?
Like, we live in this republic, we have elections, people demand representation, and too often these people go to Washington, and whether you're serving in Congress or you're some bureaucrat at an agency, and you start acting like you know best, well, the American public doesn't like it.
Shouldn't that be worth something?
I mean, it should.
Are there real numbers on how much it actually saves?
Because I can't imagine it being much.
It's minimal.
And you might see a figure for one type of driving, say, inside of a city.
And then there are other people who are wondering, well, okay, what do the numbers mean when it relates to the way that I drive it?
Because, you know, I might be driving...
I live in a rural community, so your minimal savings would be even less where they live.
The fact is, whatever type of stats have come out, the numbers are minimal, and they're often not looking at the other impacts.
The Biden EPA didn't even want Americans to be able to buy gas cars.
So it actually goes all the way back to Obama and this idea that greenhouse gases and fossil fuels were some sort of threat to our national security.
It's really bizarre to me.
What are you doing to right some of those wrongs over at the EPA?
Because that seems to be the place that they used.
To really block anything that was common sense about not just our own energy and fossil fuels, but I look at that stuff as national security, and they did everything they could to diminish that.
President Trump campaigned against having EV mandates.
We see a standard that's come out of the state of California that other states have adopted to go to all electric vehicles.
The president didn't just campaign on it.
He's followed through on it once he was sworn in.
One of the first actions that I took was that I sent The California waivers from the Biden EPA to Congress.
The House passed three bills through the Congressional Review Act to overturn those waivers.
They're now in the Senate.
If the Senate passes it, then it goes to the president for a signature.
And those waivers to California where they have, for example, that EV mandate, it's all going to be eliminated.
There's also other rules that we are reconsidering right now as it relates to vehicles.
You mentioned one action that was announced yesterday as it relates to one feature, which is actually a decision from the Obama administration.
This off cycle credit for the start stop, which ended up resulting in car manufacturers putting it in many of our cars.
Most actually now that the status over half.
So there's actions that we're able to take through regulation.
The president has been setting the pace.
Since he came in fulfilling his campaign promises, there's a lot to do.
And fortunately, a lot of progress has already been made in the first 100 days.
So, you know, California is a great example, obviously.
You know, I imagine they're going to fight all of this tooth and nail.
They're going to totally disregard the federal laws.
It seems to be pretty consistent.
You know, they're running their own, you know, I guess, dystopian society over there.
What do you foresee happening there and how do you combat that?
If Congress ends up passing these Congressional Review Acts, again, the House already passed the three California waivers.
If the Senate passes it, not only do those waivers go away, but when the pendulum, if the pendulum swings at some point far into the future, you can't bring those waivers back.
When Congress passes something with the Congressional Review Act, you can't do something that is substantially similar in the future.
And the other thing to point out is that in the Senate, this doesn't require 60 votes.
With the Congressional Review Act, it only requires 51 votes.
Now, lastly, I'd point out that this is a really short timeline.
With the Congressional Review Act, the Senate needs to act over the course of these next few weeks where the deadline passes for them.
So hopefully we get Senate action here this month.
Do you see any holdouts on the Republican side trying to slow roll that or prevent it from going through?
I'm not aware of any on the House side.
It was actually a bipartisan vote where there was 10 Democrats who voted for one.
There was 12 or 13 Democrats that voted for another bill.
And then there were over 30 Democrats that voted for the third bill.
So this isn't even something that was along party lines in the House.
This was bipartisan support.
So hopefully some Democrats vote for the CRA over in the Senate.
I'm not aware of any.
Can you talk about sort of the overall, you know, insanity of, you know, all this being symbolic of the larger agenda that we'd seen over the years at the EPA?
I mean, when you got into this role, what exactly did you find?
And perhaps, I guess, what shocked you the most?
So I gotta tell you, the thing that shocked me the most is how much we're able to do at once.
I mean, we're not pacing ourselves.
There was a lot to fix.
We inherited a big mess and we're fixing it.
And we want to fix everything.
This year, on March 12th, we made an announcement of all different kinds of regulations that are being reconsidered.
This would amount to the largest deregulatory action in the history of the country.
One agency, one year.
Doing more deregulation than entire federal governments have done across all agencies, across entire presidencies.
That's how much of a mess it was that we inherited.
We announced that action on March 12th.
Now, I'll tell you what's shocking from a different standpoint when I came in was just how little we had people actually showing up in the office.
The president ended COVID-era remote work.
One of the questions I asked was how many people are coming into the office here in D.C.?
We have five buildings across two square city blocks.
I already announced we're pulling out of one of the buildings.
We're looking to do real estate consolidations to save taxpayer money.
Well, last year, the average attendance on Mondays and Fridays was 5% to 8%.
5% to 8% showing up in the office.
The single highest record attendance.
Last year, there was one day...
Where there was 37% of the employees showing up in the office.
Well, COVID-19 remote work is done.
We need to be in the office being productive and collaborative.
And we want to make the American public proud.
And the decisions that we're making, listen, it might not be for today's taping with you, but maybe a future taping.
I see you ripping off your shirt like Hulk Hogan ripped off his at the convention.
And it says, I love EPA or I love Trump EPA.
Let's see what we can get, you know, at a...
Don Jr. eventually, but we have to earn it.
Well, it feels like the EPA sort of lost its ground.
I mean, I totally, listen, I'm an outdoorsman.
I love being in the woods.
That's sort of my happy place.
I'm all for the environment, but it seemed like the agenda of the EPA wasn't actually preserving the environment.
It was destroying everything else around it.
You mentioned the biggest deregulation.
Action in history.
Can you talk about some of the things that you guys got rid of that would just be sort of striking to the American people, the things that would surprise people most about just how insane some of those things got and just how detrimental they would be to business, to the economy, to people's actual use of the environment and being in the environment?
Because I imagine there's some things in there that are pretty shocking and probably not at all on mission.
It's trillions of dollars of regulation.
We're going to be reducing the cost of living.
We're going to make it easier to be able to purchase a car, make it easier to heat your home.
We choose protecting the environment.
And growing the economy.
We don't have to choose between the two anymore.
What was most outrageous to many Americans out there, seeing tens of billions of dollars of their money get wasted with little accountability, with self-dealing and conflicts of interest, with unqualified recipients.
So we instantly got a handle over that.
I've canceled $22 billion worth of grants.
Our annual budget is only about $10 billion.
And I've already canceled $22 billion.
That's how much money was going out through EPA.
On the regulatory front, entire industries were getting targeted.
About a month ago, the president at the White House signed a coal executive order and other executive orders where he is reversing attacks on entire industries.
And there are states, many states in the country, that were begging for this kind of leadership out of Washington and the president's addressing it.
Now, when you start looking at the individual regulations, there are particular terms, there are acronyms that they get referenced as.
So, listen, some people might not be familiar with it, but it's called Clean Power Plan 2.0 or MATS, Mercury and Air Toxic Standards, or PM 2.5.
Actually, one example, which I know that you're aware of, on Caitlin Collins' show a few weeks ago, the chief climate...
A correspondent goes on air and he was criticizing our March 12th announcement and he says that we were putting out press releases so quickly we didn't even proofread it.
And he puts up as an example our change to Quad OBC with regards to oil and methane regulations.
And he says, look at this press release.
It says 0000B slash C. This is their chief climate correspondent.
No, actually, this is a regulation, and it's called QuadOBC, and this is why it's important.
So there's a lot of acronyms out there.
We encourage people to go.
They can go to our website.
They can read each of these press releases.
They all amount to what were trillions of dollars of regulations, all done.
You know, 2023, 2024, towards the end of the Biden administration, not all of them, some are from the Obama administration, but almost all these actions are from that last year or two before President Biden left office.
Yeah, I mean, I remember that one with the quad zero.
I mean, this is their expert.
This is CNN's, like, the guy that's supposed to know so he can speak, you know, truth to power or whatever the hell they're doing.
He didn't even understand.
Like, when I read it, I was like, oh, that seems like a basic thing.
Like, this wasn't like, you know, he just didn't understand the nuance of something incredibly, you know, complex and whatever it was.
Like, he didn't understand the basics.
So it feels like these guys like to screech about stuff that they don't even understand.
It's sort of like what I've, you know, certainly bitched even to you about in private.
Like, people making decisions, whether it's in Congress or in government, who...
Don't have a basic understanding of what's even going on, but, you know, hey, it's a convenient soundbite against Trump, so we'll get out there and say that they didn't proofread their press release.
Yeah, and then, you know, as soon as he says it, Caitlin Collins says, whoops, you know, like trying to, as if we're the target of the joke.
Well, the whoops is your own chief climate correspondent who is supposed to be that expert.
For the audience watching, they might say, oh man, you just owned the EPA administrator.
You know, like, oh, they didn't fix that proofreading mistake.
So you end up dumbing down your own audience.
So it's important that these people who are the experts on TV, that they know what they're talking about, because folks are tuning in, actually looking to get caught up on what's going on.
They're not tuning in to get dumbed down, but that's what happened that day.
Yeah, well, you know, the problem is, like, and we talked about it on this show and others, that's why I tell people, hey, get this message out there, you know, like, share, subscribe, push it out, because the reality is the average person watching CNN that day actually thought they notched a win.
They'll probably never know that the CNN climatologist or environmental expert, whatever the hell he is, had no idea what he was talking about.
And that's the problem with all of these things.
They take these wins.
If they ever even bother to correct it, even once they know they're wrong, it's on page 37 of a webpage that no one will ever read.
You know, there's never been any accountability.
How do we get that out there so that people understand that the people complaining about this may not actually know what they're talking about, may not know the downstream consequences of some of the insanity that's out there, what it does to people, their families, their energy bills, whatever it may be.
How do we get that out there so people fully understand it?
Well, honestly, they should be following the playbook of how President Trump Punches back.
And you do.
It's important that when you see something that needs to be exposed, that you don't allow it to be out.
Something that is untrue, if you just let it sit out there and there's no pushback, well then people may think it's true.
And in the case of what we just referenced with the CNN chief climate correspondent, we pushed back.
And that actually got more traction on social media.
Then the original comment, and hopefully it ends up resulting in these people going back on air, which ended up happening, it was like the next day, this chief climate correspondent goes back on Caitlin Collins' show or someone else's show on CNN and walked back his statement from the day prior.
That wouldn't have happened if we didn't push back.
Over the course of the last week or two, we had a media availability here in D.C. Where I was pushing back on the claims from the media that there's no evidence of anything that is wrong with the $20 billion that went out through the Biden EPA, which a Biden EPA political official towards the end of last year referred to as tossing gold bars off the Titanic.
And New York Times, Washington Post, Politico, they've been saying that there's no evidence of any wrongdoing.
So some New York Times reporter ends up volunteering herself.
And she says it's not true that the New York Times has been saying that there's no evidence.
I instantly start reading back her words from her story.
I saw that one.
You just, you gotta push back, because if you don't, then it's just gonna stay out there, and folks are just gonna assume it's true.
So you mentioned sort of earlier, you know, some of the, you know, whether it's the self-dealing, you know, let's call it sort of kickbacks.
We've read about that all over the place.
I've talked about it here a lot.
USAID has sparked a lot of outrage.
I imagine at the EPA, some of these things were just as bad, if not worse, in terms of dedicating a lot of money to a cause, most of which gets kicked back to some NGO, which probably ends up back in the bank account of the Democrats.
In the end, what have you found there?
$20 billion went through just eight NGOs as pass-throughs.
And as that money goes through those pass-through entities, we start losing all sorts of levels of oversight and control that we would want and should want.
The American taxpayers would want EPA to have.
So there are basic questions you could ask me of what happens to all of this money that I don't know the answers to.
Now, as far as those eight NGOs, many of them are brand new.
President Trump talks about this one NGO.
That is connected to Stacey Abrams that received $2 billion in 2024.
That NGO in 2023 only received $100.
They received $100 in 2023 and they get $2 billion.
That's a pretty good return on investment.
I need one or two of those deals in my life.
Yeah, and I've got to tell you, one other important point.
As we're here talking about oversight over taxpayer dollars, we're talking about regulations and making sure that we're not suffocating the economy.
What should not get lost is that, and you pointed it earlier, and I know that you're someone who is an environmentalist.
You are an environmentalist.
You spend a lot of your time out there hunting.
You're in the wildlife.
You want...
Clean air, land, and water for all Americans.
President Trump talks about clean air, land, and water for all Americans.
Well, as soon as President Trump came in, he gave us 30 days to clean up hazardous materials after the LA wildfires.
People thought it was impossible.
We got it done in less than 30 days.
It's the Trump administration all in tackling the raw sewage coming across the border in Tijuana from Mexico into the United States.
We have all across the map have been focusing on these environmental wins.
So the morning of the 100th day of the Trump presidency, as we're all inside of the White House for that cabinet meeting, I was able to talk about 100 environmental actions.
Big environmental actions that we took in the first 100 days for clean air, land, and water for all Americans.
The Trump administration, the Trump EPA chooses both protecting the environment and growing the economy.
We're going to be more responsible taxpayer dollars.
And we're going to make sure that we're heeding the demands of the American public.
The Trump mandate that was earned last November to make sure that we're fulfilling both.
Both of these priorities, we're not turning a blind eye to economic pain that Americans are concerned about or their environmental demands that they're talking about as well.
They want common sense.
That's what we're pursuing, common sense and choosing both.
Yeah, you know, obviously I sort of said in the intro, you've been, you know, leading the charge in terms of, you know, the attacks from the Democrats on the things that you're doing.
I think that's because you've been very effective, you've been very assertive, you've been aggressive, you have pushed back, you've functioned unafraid.
I noticed this week the media was melting down over something called Energy Star.
That was their, that's their latest outrage cycle, you know, the Energy Star program.
What exactly is it and what are you doing with it?
It's a government program that's been around for a long time that is well-known enough where the government doesn't need to prop it up anymore.
We have all sorts of credible programs outside of government.
You're a builder.
You're familiar with the LEADS program.
This is not a government-propped-up program, Leeds.
It's something that is out there in the private sector.
It's reputable.
It's well-run.
It's respected.
This has essentially become the Energy Star is like an advertisement for these companies that ends up requiring many dozens of federal officials to run.
It requires...
You know, tens of millions of dollars of tax dollars in order to prop up.
And if the federal government stopped running ENERGY STAR today, there would be so much competition to be able to credibly and legitimately run this out of government tomorrow.
And this isn't like a statutory obligation either.
It's not like something EPA was required to do because of some law that passed saying that this...
By the way...
Why would EPA be the agency that would run it instead of the Department of Energy?
If you were to apply common sense looking backwards, there would be some changes made.
But if you look forward, there is a way to be able to run a program like Energy Star without it requiring the federal government propping it up.
You mentioned building, something I'm pretty familiar with before I got on this journey.
What role can the EPA have in places like California, where there's just so many roadblocks to building, and particularly after the wildfires there, rebuilding?
I'm already seeing the celebrities, probably not on our side, talking about, hey, I just want to build back what I had, and they're making it impossible.
What have you seen on the ground, and what can the EPA do to help the victims of those devastating fires?
Well, when President Trump gave us 30 days, the response that we were getting initially was that it was impossible.
It was going to take months.
You'd be lucky if you're going to get it done by the summer.
EPA had to complete our Phase I hazardous material removal before the Army Corps was able to come in and do their debris removal.
Well, a lot of the complaints that we hear about from locals on the ground...
It's not with the EPA because we did an amazing job fulfilling that executive order from the president.
But the local government can't get out of its own way.
And they're gumming up the works.
I get asked often, what can the EPA do as it relates to permitting reform?
What can the federal government do as it relates to permitting reform?
The most durable long-term action would be for Congress to pass a permitting reform bill.
You're actually changing statute to speed up the process.
The president created the National Energy Dominance Council.
He wants these agencies to work together collaboratively, as opposed to having all these different processes.
So a builder has to go through 12 months of one process, and then some other agency is saying, oh, by the way, you have to start all over.
And the builder is wondering, well, why didn't you tell me that 12 months ago?
There needs to be more certainty in the process, less time, less cost.
But I'll tell you what, while legislation would be the most durable long-term action, EPA has been able to help speed up permitting processes since we got in by getting out of the way, all over the place.
There were things that EPA was getting itself involved in, slowing stuff down that it didn't have to be involved in.
It shouldn't have been involved with in slowing down.
The president, when he called me up, it was Sunday morning, November 11th, asked me to do his position.
He was so motivated to tackle permitting reform.
He was talking about unleashing energy dominance on that call.
He was talking about making America the AI capital of the world.
But there was no topic that he was more pumped up about than permitting reform.
It's top of mind for him.
There's a lot to do.
But it really does require some of these other states and local governments to get out of their own way.
California certainly knows what it's like to gum up works.
They're trying to make it impossible for people to build back so they can either build, I guess, waterfront government housing or whatever it may be.
It's probably some sort of equity play in the end.
Is there a way for the federal government to step in to push this stuff?
Because it feels like they're going to put up whatever roadblocks they can.
It's not just bureaucracy.
It's not just incompetence.
It feels like the process is the punishment.
The process is what's going to drive those people away and prevent them from rebuilding in their own communities.
Yeah, you just said something incredibly important.
When you said it's not just incompetence, I'm glad that you recognize that it is incompetence to a certain level, but then it's also deliberate.
So you have this recipe that includes both incompetence, but also these other deliberate actions that make it harder for people to be able to build.
The fact that a project that might take nine months in another country, or maybe nine months in another state...
Might take seven years in California isn't just incompetence, as you point out.
So when California wants to come to the federal government and they're asking for funding to be able to rebuild, say, after what was this horrible, what seemed to be apocalyptic site that we don't want to ever see happen again anywhere else in America, we need to make sure that we are resolving issues as it relates to access to water.
This is President Trump's demand of Austin to different agencies.
It's certainly in demand in California.
Forest management to make sure that you're building back smart.
That's something that's been an important priority of the president's.
And these other individual aspects of rebuilding, where it might be something in the control of a state or local government, but if they're coming to the federal government and asking for a whole lot of money to help...
Well, it shouldn't go back there with no strings attached where we aren't having a conversation about these other needs because the residents of California are begging for the federal government to use the leverage to fix these problems at the local level.
Well, Lee, thank you for all that you're doing, guys.
Make sure to check out Lee Zeldin and the EPA to stay in touch with what's actually happening.
Don't listen to CNN's climatologists because they clearly don't know what they're talking about.
Get it direct from the horse's mouth.
Lee Zeldin, thank you so much.
Great to see you, my friend.
I look forward to continuing to watch the liberal tears flow for you initiating common sense in your branch of government.
Thanks, Don.
Thanks, man.
Be well.
And coming up in just moments, we'll get into more of all of this with the Federalist CEO, Sean Davis.
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Sean, good to have you back, man.
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I'm doing great, and it's great to be back.
Thank you for having me.
It's my pleasure.
So I want to start with a story I covered earlier this week on these woke refugee resettlement groups who seem to want to, you know, they want to resettle MS-13, they want to really resettle, you know, Trendelaragua, maybe the worst human beings in the history of the world, but they refuse to resettle, like, South African farmers, families, kids who are victims of discrimination and, you know...
Some pretty insane stuff over there.
They love their bumper stickers that say, hate has no home here, but clearly that's just another lie.
What are your thoughts on all of this that you see going on?
I mean, it's playing out before our eyes.
It's the first time I've seen children coming over here, and they're waving American flags.
The rest are military-aged fighting men who have criminal records and murder and rape as their hobby and passion.
What's going on?
Yeah, it was kind of an amazing mask-off moment that we got to witness.
I've said for years that when it comes to Dems and neocons, their foreign policy is driven by what's least in our national interest.
So as far as you can get away from our national interest, the greater a priority it is for them.
And the closer it is to a key national security core interest, the less likely they are to support it.
And I feel like this immigration gambit is a perfect example of that.
They want a bunch of non-English speaking, voodoo-worshipping, cats skinning and eating.
Allegedly, Sean.
Allegedly.
I mean, those videos didn't look like a ribeye, but in the eyes of the mainstream media, that definitely didn't happen.
Yeah, we...
But yeah, so they want the people who are least compatible with American culture.
And we're not talking about skin color or anything like that.
We're talking about compatibility with American culture, which is understanding our culture, our tradition, our faith, our language.
The less likely you are to be able to do that, the more they want to import you in.
The less likely your country is to jive with American culture, the more they want to import everyone there.
And yet when we see South Africa, which is, you know, they're largely English speaking.
Obviously, they speak Afrikaans and other stuff.
They speak English.
They're largely Christian.
They understand our culture.
They will come here and they will assimilate probably within five minutes.
And yet suddenly, of all the people on Earth, that's where the left looked and decided, no, no, no, no, we're full.
We're full now.
We might have room for some more Somalians and Haitians, but if you speak English and you love Jesus, you've got to go back.
You're not compatible with what we're trying to do here.
Yeah, I mean, I think you nailed it.
I mean, it was definitely a mask-off moment.
They have a lot of these things where it's like, I mean, you know, there's these 80-20 issues.
Some of them are like 99-1 issues, and they can't help themselves.
They've got to take the one.
You know, just like we saw with the...
You know, judicial sabotage and the Democrats trying to break into ICE facilities and wanting to meet with Trendelaragua and MS-13 gang members in El Salvador.
I mean, they're all in, you know, protecting these people, but not like children who are being murdered or would be if they stayed.
I mean, it's all out in the open now.
And again, I'm...
The hills they choose to die on are sort of amazing to me, but what's driving the left to embrace literally enemies of America, of democracy, of freedom, safety, sanity?
How is that their primary demographic focus these days?
Well, it's going to sound cliché, but it's also true.
They just hate America.
They hate the founding ideals of this country.
They hate the people who founded it.
They hate the foundation of the founding.
People came here to have the freedom to worship Jesus.
They were religious Christian refugees who came here and settled a country.
So they'll say, oh, America's a country of immigrants.
No, it's not.
America was settled.
It's not like they came here and there was like a thriving country.
There was nothing.
Yeah, there was actual risk, right?
Like, when you came here, like, there wasn't a safety net, and you didn't get your Obama phone, and money, and guaranteed healthcare, and housing, and everything else that Americans actually have to work for.
You weren't given any of that.
No, there's nothing, and I think about it a lot.
I think about the original settlers.
I think about what Lewis and Clark went through, and I think, I am so soft.
Like, my generation is so soft.
They showed up with nothing.
They spent like three months or whatever at sea.
I think half of them were dead within a year.
Like, it is remarkable what they did.
And so the left in America and the left globally hates this country.
They hate it.
And so what they want to do is they want to conquer it.
They know they can't do that head-on, so they've been engaged in a multi-decade practice of conquest through dilution.
And the idea that they're just trying to replace Americans.
It's true.
We know it's true because they're saying it.
Because when you bring people over here who are just like Americans culturally, they say, no, we can't have that.
They want to bring people who are least like us and who are most likely to dilute what it actually means to be an American anymore.
It's the entire purpose.
So if it looks like they're trying to destroy the country through this nonsense, it's because they are trying to destroy the country through this nonsense.
Yeah, I mean, a lot of people, I guess, have referred to that sort of like the great replacement theory.
And for a while, two, two and a half, I mean, it was verboten to even say, like, hey, I mean, your actions clearly show that this is what you're doing.
You know, and since then, we've seen the emails and we've seen the letters, and they've given up on even pretending that that's not their plan.
They're just saying it out loud at this point.
It's just like, okay, well, you know, now that it's out there.
But before, if you said that you were a racist, you were a misogynist, you were homophobic somehow, you know, it doesn't matter.
You're one of the ists, because they don't have actual answers, so they just try to...
They try to label you and brand you, and luckily people don't care that much anymore because if that's the cause of and solution for every issue in the world, it loses its effect, even if it's a real issue in certain instances, just not everything.
Yeah, they did like the old canard of that's not happening and it's good that it is.
No, no, no, we're not trying to replace you, but it's good that we're trying to replace you.
And again, they want to make it about skin color or nationality or something like that.
It's not.
It's about compatibility with American culture.
America is for Americans.
Now, does that mean you can't come here and be an American?
Of course not.
What it means is, like, being an American, because America is a country and a culture, it's not an idea, it's not an economic zone.
Being an American means subscribing to our ideals and our culture, and you can come and do that, but it's more than just having a piece of paper or a thing that says, oh, I'm a citizen, you know, I'm equal under the law.
Being an American is like a big, important thing, and it's something people used to aspire to.
You know, the world over, they wanted to come here.
They saw what we had built, and they wanted to be a part of it.
Now they just kind of want to come here and get the money and do whatever, and they have no interest in being an American, and it's why we're in the position we are now culturally.
Yeah, no, I know this will be incredibly controversial, but I'm going to go on the record here and say, like, if it was white people coming over and murdering people, I don't want them either.
It doesn't matter if you're white, blue, green, purple.
I don't want murderers.
I don't want drug dealers.
I don't want rapists.
And I guess it's hard to believe that that is controversial.
Again, the fact that they're protecting murderers in our country illegally, rapists in our country illegally, it's mind-blowing.
I think we talked about this one of the last times we talked.
13,000 murderers let into the country.
And they knew.
I mean, these are ICE statistics under Joe Biden's administration.
They knew.
16,000 rapists, right?
Let's say 30,000 people overall that are either murderers or rapists.
I mean, spread 30,000 people amongst what?
The 4,000 counties of America?
Like, what do you do by adding, you know, eight?
Murderers and rapists to every county in America.
What do you expect to happen in your backyard?
And yet it's just like, we must go all in.
It's wild.
Yeah, and you're right.
It's like, if there's people who are white and they're from somewhere overseas and they reject our culture and they reject our faith and they don't like our system of laws, for example, like Soviet communists in the 1980s.
We don't want you.
Your views are incompatible with the American way and with American culture and law and tradition and faith.
And the left never wants to have that conversation.
They just want to say, you're racist.
And yet when they do, when they look at these Afrikaners, it's just shocking to me.
You had the Episcopal Church, I think, who, like one of their bishops, I'll put in air quotes.
Trump trashes President Trump when he's inaugurated for rejecting their view of mass migration.
The Episcopal Church was out recently saying, actually, we're not going to help settle migrants anymore if they're going to be Africaners.
It's amazing.
If you put it in a book...
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Yeah, if you tried to predict that like a week or a month ago, everyone would be like, that's ridiculous.
No, no, no.
I did not have that in my bingo card, Sean.
That was not there.
But at this point, you know, the world has gone so insane, I guess nothing surprises them anymore.
But, I mean, their entire tenant was resettlement of refugees who are in threat.
So, like, why would these people be any different?
And we all know the answer, unfortunately.
Yeah, and it just exposes the lie of the multicultural idea.
And what I find really interesting is I think it was 59 people from South Africa who were brought in compared to like the 20 million that have legally or illegally immigrated in the U.S. in the last couple of years.
59 people.
All the left had to do was be quiet.
Be like, yeah, you know, obviously, you know, we'll spot them a tenth of a percent of what we brought in.
But they couldn't do it because it's actually fatal to their entire conceit.
Yeah, I guess the other issue where we've seen that, where Democrats used to at least pretend to be on the side of working class people, was lowering drug prices.
But now that my father, now that Trump is for it...
They're now against it.
I guess they have to be.
I mean, I love it.
I mean, you know, like lowering prescription drug prices.
So in Europe, an American drug company sells their drugs for a tenth or less the cost that the American has to pay.
But we're going to lower it for America.
And now they're against that.
What's your read on how that one plays out?
Because, man, that seems to really hit people hard to the point where so many prescriptions just go unfilled for things that people actually need to survive or to live.
You know, a happy life.
Yeah, it's crazy.
So I worked for for Tom Coburn, a senator from Oklahoma in the mid 2000s.
And I remember remember him being like an oddity in the Republican Party.
He was a doctor's practicing physician.
And I remember him saying, yeah, there's no reason we shouldn't be importing the cheaper stuff from Canada.
Like, why on earth are we paying 10x what they're paying?
Why are we subsidizing the rest of the world?
Because what's happening is.
America pays all of these massive R&D costs, and they are massive.
You know, for every one drug or pill that works, there's probably 10 that failed, and so they're having to spread the success out over a bunch of failures.
But basically, America was having to pay all these fixed costs, and what everyone else on Earth was paying was just the marginal cost of what it cost to just, like, produce the pill.
It's like a nickel.
It was there.
Let's forget about the R&D.
It's sort of like with China.
We develop military technology.
They steal our IP.
We have a trillion dollars invested into it.
They pick it up.
They start with exactly what we have for zero basis.
Doesn't seem like a recipe for success, but the fact that they're doing that to Americans, that it didn't matter, is shocking to me.
But I guess there's never been a consequence, and I'm sure there's plenty of lobbyists, whatever it may be, fighting to keep the people in Congress.
You know, voting for this stuff.
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to all the arguments from like the pharma funded libertarian dorks in D.C. where they'll be like, well, this is communism.
You can't have price controls.
And it's absurd because the way drugs are priced now in America is you have the federal government through Medicare and pharma get together and the two of them decide together what the price of something is going to be.
And we're supposed to believe that that's like free market capitalism?
It's completely absurd.
But watch, a bunch of pharma-funded dorks in D.C. are going to publish a bunch of white papers claiming that that is like the true essence of capitalism.
It's the federal government and a monopolist industry colluding to set prices.
Yeah, why don't we let those countries in Europe pay the prices that Americans are currently paying and give it to us for next to nothing?
That's a way to cover the R&D cost.
You bring up a good point.
You don't want to...
Disincentivize all the R&D.
I'm sure that's the angle that they will do, but there's ways around all of these things.
We don't have to subsidize our alleged allies.
I don't think someone who takes advantage of you for decades doesn't want to contribute to NATO.
I don't know how much of an allies they actually are.
They're sort of allies in names only.
But it seems like there's ways to solve those problems fairly easily without putting that burden on the American taxpayer.
Yeah, exactly.
You should be able to spread that fixed cost, the R&D, all the overhead.
that shouldn't be born entirely by America.
Because, look, those costs aren't going to go away.
You do have to spend a lot of money to make stuff that works.
But there's zero reason why we should be paying all of it and then subsidizing every other country on Earth.
Whose welfare state, by the way, we subsidize, whose militaries we subsidize, whose wars we fight for them.
Like at some point, maybe America just gets to reap the fruits of America's hard work.
I know.
Well, you're wild.
You're wild.
Speaking of Wild, the knives do seem to be out amongst Democrats as the media finally wants to report some of the truth about the Biden decline that they clearly covered up, that guys like you and I have probably talked about directly, but certainly have in our individual capacities online, in our respective publications, etc.
They didn't want to cover the story when it mattered.
But now...
We're getting reports about Joe Biden likely having to have been in a wheelchair if he won a second term.
And I imagine that's just the tip of the iceberg.
But is the regime media just trying to save face?
Are they saying, you know, now we're going to be honest so that if Donald Trump sneezes, they can see, oh my God, see what I mean?
Now we can talk about these things.
Not that it ever stopped them before, but what do you think they're trying to do?
And is anyone even going to buy it at this point?
Yeah, it reminds me a lot of when O.J. said he was going to go and be involved in the search for the real killer.
In one big circle.
We're going to follow these tracks very closely in a circle.
Yeah, he was totally committed to finding out who did those awful things to Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman.
Look, the reality is the media were not duped into reporting that Biden's brain was fine.
They were very complicit co-conspirators in the con on the American people.
And what happened is, like, Biden lost, and so now they don't have to protect him anymore.
So that's number one.
Number two, they know that they're in a bit of trouble because everyone knew his brain of putting, like, the guy was probably sitting in the Oval Office, like, trying to answer a banana whenever he heard a ding on someone else's phone.
And so they're like, crap, we've got a problem now.
Everyone thinks we're a bunch of lying, corrupt idiots.
So what we're going to do is we're going to throw Biden overboard because he's useless now.
And we're going to pretend that we're actually the ones revealing all these previously unknown facts about how his brain was tapioca pudding.
Previously unknown, other than we all saw it on TV every day for four years.
But otherwise unknown, yes.
Yeah, and it's totally transparent.
It's entirely a media reputation rescue operation.
And they need to be able to say a year from now...
No, no, no.
Not only did we not cover it up, we were actually the ones who wrote the book on it.
Like, we did the reporting that they were going to have to put Grandpa Joe in a wheelchair.
And they're going to hope that we all forget about how when Biden ran a basement campaign in 2020 and we said, hey, maybe the guy's brain is fried.
They all screamed at us as being liars and disinformation artists.
I feel like every time we talk about the media, I say the same thing.
It's one of the most dishonest things I've ever seen.
And we'll say it next week when they have a new op, but it's true.
Watching Jake Tapper writing a book about Biden's decline, I'm like, I'm pretty sure I saw the clip where you basically tried to accost my sister-in-law, who's pointing out very obvious things.
And he tried to just wheel it away as though we're not to believe our lying eyes.
Yeah, they lie about everything.
And the thing is, They know they're lying, and we know they're lying, and they know that we know they're lying, and they just don't care.
They don't care because they have the memory of goldfish.
All they care about is, what do I have to say right now to get to the next news cycle so people will believe the lies I'm going to peddle at that point?
That's their whole game.
And so they're, like, doing this thing the past couple days and weeks with this dumb Qatari airplane.
The story immediately falls apart.
They never do a mea culpa or an apology, and they just move on to the next lie.
It's, you know, wash, rinse, repeat every single time.
Well, I mean, the Democrats seem to have a real branding problem in my mind.
They push basically everyone and all of the common sense out of their tent.
But is the GOP Congress doing what it takes to have a good midterm cycle?
Are they capitalizing on that enough?
I know my father is, but is he getting enough cooperation from the GOP Congress?
Obviously tight margins, but we do have a long and strong history of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
What are the key benchmarks in your mind for Capitol Hill right now?
Well, I think Republicans, they actually have a really easy job.
And the question is, why won't they do it?
All they have to do is what they said they were going to do.
And instead, I can't tell you a single thing they've done.
I think they've maybe passed five bills that Trump has signed.
But it seems like they're just trying, like Homer Simpson style, to just fall and disappear into the bushes and hope that nobody notices them.
It's one of the most bizarre things I've ever seen.
And if there's a cardinal rule of politics, it's that you have to give people a reason to vote for you.
You can't just have them vote against the other guys.
I honestly don't know what any of the Republicans in Congress believe.
I don't understand.
What they're for.
They seem to be absolute non-entities hoping that they can just hide and let Trump do all the work.
And I'm telling you, that's a recipe for political disaster next year.
They are going to get rocked if they continue to do this disappearing routine.
Just do what you said.
Like, encode and put in legislation all the things that Trump is doing so the next guy can't undo it.
And they refuse to do it, and I know the margins are thin, but I just find it mind-boggling.
Yeah, the executive orders are great.
They're a good catalyst to get things started.
It's a fast way to get everything rolling.
But you do need to codify these things into law so they just can't disappear with another stroke of the pen if a Democrat wins in three and a half years.
Yeah, and I think unfortunately, like on the House side, I think they want to do the right thing.
But a lot of them, especially in leadership, they're afraid of their own shadows.
And then the problem in the Senate is a little different.
I think you just have a bunch of saboteurs over there.
On paper, we've got 52, 53 votes.
In reality, we might have 48 because you've got this little band of saboteurs who seem to be trying to do everything they can to disrupt and block Trump's agenda.
So it's so frustrating.
I feel like this is just our life as Republican voters is constantly being disappointed in in leadership in Congress.
And I think one thing that makes the saboteur so mad about Trump is he goes in and he actually does the things that Republicans have promised but failed to do for like 30 years.
And it drives them nuts because it creates an expectation among their voters that they should be doing the same thing.
Yeah, I mean, you know, who wants to take the risk?
Who wants to not be liked in Washington, D.C., if you're one of these sort of weak Republicans?
But I guess speaking of which, I have to ask, I know since you're in Tennessee.
What's up with all these mayors in Nashville, the ones that have been elected there?
I mean, you know, obviously Tennessee, incredibly strong conservative state, but, you know, what's happening in Nashville?
It feels like it's turned into one of these sort of, you know, super liberal, you know, California, New York style cities.
It's exactly what it is.
And it's actually the same story that you see in red states and blue cities everywhere.
It's been taken over by lefties because lefties are all about, you know, the urban big city project.
It's where they have scale for their get out the boat stuff that it doesn't work that well in rural areas.
And so cities are what they control.
It's the base of Democrat left wing power in this country.
And you've got this like crazy sprawling city council with like a thousand people on it.
I'm exaggerating, but like not too much.
Normally on a city council, you have like five or ten people.
I think they've got like a hundred.
They're all a bunch of blue-haired freaks.
They're all communists.
I think the mayor right now might actually be a literal communist.
And before him, we had like this three-foot-tall Oompa Loompa mayor who's a total left-wing loony.
Before that, we had this crazy woman, Megan Barry, who got busted, like banging her bodyguard outside of cemeteries on work hours, which I'm not making up at all.
It's literally what happened.
She's taking her bodyguard boyfriend on foreign trips everywhere while she was doing communism.
Sounds like Fannie Willis.
Yeah.
And it's just, they're insane left-wingers, but because the city demographically is blue, they can do whatever they want.
So, I mean, it's really just a matter of time before it becomes another Chicago or Detroit or New Orleans or Philadelphia, because they're all a bunch of incompetent left wing kooks.
So, Sean, as we wrap up, we're through the first hundred days.
What do you think's in store for the next 100 days?
Oh man, well, I'm deeply concerned about the ongoing judicial tyranny and judicial insurrection and resistance.
You have a bunch of unelected oligarchs in robes who've decided that the powers of the presidency actually belong to them.
I don't think we have a Supreme Court that's really going to be willing to do what's necessary because, unfortunately, I think there may be five people on it, led by John Roberts himself, who are more interested in their own power than they are in their actual limited authority under the Constitution.
And then I think we're just going to see freak out after fake freak out from left-wing nutjobs and their enablers and co-conspirators in the media.
Well, yeah, that's a little scary.
It seems like they're doing those usual tactics.
It's why the legislation is so important, because it's like they'll do whatever they can to slow roll it, try to prevent Trump from getting a full four years.
You know, let's make it two.
Let's make it less.
Let's make sure these things lapse into another administration when, you know, maybe they get their wish and they get a Democrat in there, because it seems like there's certainly a lot of people, even allegedly on our side, working against us.
Sean Davis, Federalist CEO, thank you so much.
Guys, check him out on social.
One of the more aggressive, awesome, you know, MAGA Twitter feeds.
Really appreciate you, man.
I look forward to having you back on as things progress.
Well, you're always a gracious host.
Thank you for having me.
Be well.
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