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April 14, 2025 - Triggered - Donald Trump Jr
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Make Main St Great Again, Interviews with Alex Marlow & John Phillips | TRIGGERED Ep.233
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Hey guys, and welcome to another huge episode of Triggered.
I hope you all are having a great, fantastic start to your week.
We have a ton to get into today.
The fake news is working over time, but so are we.
We've got two fantastic guests lined up for you today.
We'll have the editor-in-chief of Breitbart News, Alex Marlowe.
He's always on the front lines exposing the insanity, getting the truth out there.
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Guys, joining me now, Breitbart News Editor-in-Chief Alex Marlowe, along with KABC and KSFO radio host John Phillips.
Good to have you guys both.
I think last time you were both on together as well, so this works out pretty well.
I think, Alex, you may have been on one more time solo for your book, but I think we've done this combo before, so I like it.
Yeah, we did this combo before, and I think it's my fourth time on, so I'm like a veteran.
You guys both have great shows, so I'm really happy to be here.
I appreciate it, man.
You're doing a good job combating all the fake news that's out there, and God knows there's enough of it.
I have got a lot of sleep lately, but there certainly is a lot of fake news to give us some content over Breitbart.
Oh, it's crazy.
You see the nonsense.
The nonsense is starting, so we're in for a couple of years of this, but that's okay.
I think America's going to win in the long run.
Oh, absolutely.
I think so.
And I think that right now what's going on is it's very sweet because we've never seen a president actually keep his promises that he makes to people.
And you talk about issues for 30 years, and then you run on those issues, and then you do these issues, and then everyone acts like they're surprised that you're doing the things that you promised to do.
It shows you how broken our system is that we actually don't anticipate the politicians do what they're supposed to do.
Today, there's a huge story.
One of our top stories right now is, as we're having this conversation, Don, Is Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania who campaigned on school choice, and then he's just completely buckling the teachers' unions and doing everything they say and not doing school choice.
And it's just one of these things where it just shows you, of course, who all these guys are.
They don't put their money where their mouth is.
Donald Trump Sr. is different.
Yeah, I mean, you guys have been really, at Breitbart, relentlessly exposing how failed, you know, let's call it free trade in very broad air quotes, policies have really hollowed out American cities and town.
Alex, from your perspective, why do you think the legacy media seems so determined to downplay or ignore the real scope of what's actually happening?
They didn't panic when the Rust Belt was decimated, but they're panicking now.
Why is that?
Yeah, that's right, because it hurts Donald Trump.
So remember, if Trump does something well, he had nothing to do with it.
And if Trump does something where they can get him, then he solely was responsible for it.
So that's their logic.
That's how they've been.
All of these people who did not care about Biden inflation, they did not care about the open border, they did not care about...
All of manufacturing being outsourced to China.
They do not care when 13 service members were killed during the botched Afghanistan pullout.
They don't care about anything that actually matters to Americans.
They don't care when there's two men competing for a women's championship in some sporting event.
None of that bothers them.
What bothers them is when they have any...
Shit they can use, any news cycle they can use to try to take down Trump.
This has been going on for 10 years, and people have to be hardened to this.
If this is freaking you guys out, then you guys got to grow a spine here, because this is not so bad.
Yeah, I mean, we make decisions to get some guy re-elected in two weeks that we end up eating for 50 years.
I mean, it's not all that sustainable.
I mean, if you go back to some of these clips from the 90s or early 2000s, you know...
I should put them up on here.
It's like Nancy Pelosi talking about tariffs.
Almost verbatim to what Trump's doing.
And it was a great idea when she said it then.
They didn't have the guts to actually enact it, but it was a great idea then.
You had Barack Obama do the same.
You had Warren Buffett writing an article about how this is the way to, frankly, the only way to save America.
And now they've forgotten all about this.
But, you know, John, you're a fourth-generation Californian.
How does this economic debate about tariffs parallel to what we've seen in California over the last 40 years, in the sense that if you don't address problems that is right in front of your face, it only continues to get worse?
Well, we've seen that with immigration here, certainly.
We've seen that with what we do with fires and water policy, and we had to live that here in Los Angeles recently.
But I think that what's going on right now is such a shock to the system.
To Alex's point, because they love to call your dad a liar.
They call him a liar on a regular basis because he said, well, you know, The Apprentice had X ratings and they say, oh, it was really Y. Well, it was the number one show on NBC and the centerpiece of the primetime lineup for years.
It was a well-rated show.
Does it really matter if it was X or Y?
But they focus on things like that.
Yet he ran on this platform and he's actually following through with it.
The big ticket items, something that none of these politicians in either party ever do.
And they're acting like it's some sort of massively shocking thing.
Right. Yeah, you know, you're supposed to tell your constituents that you're going to do something and then you get to D.C. and you do the opposite and you're supposed to keep getting reelected for lying to your people.
I mean, it certainly hasn't worked in the past.
So, I mean, at least we're trying something new.
I mean, this is.
I feel like for the last few decades, we've been living Einstein's definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
Well, because I think what they want to do is they want to run on these issues.
If every cycle you know you can run on immigration or you can run on abortion or you can run on any of these subjects, and it's going to pay off, it's going to result in you making campaign dollars or you filling up a room full of people or whatever, you benefit from that.
And the fact that someone's actually trying to fix a big, major problem is just something they fundamentally don't understand.
They don't ever want to fix these things.
They want them to exist forever so they can continue to benefit from them.
And then you have this guy who's coming in who's just trying to fix all of these long-term structural problems, and they just don't understand it.
It's like he's speaking a different language.
Yeah, I mean, Alex, we're seeing my father actually do what he said he was going to do.
And this time around, he's got a cabinet that will actually back him, not the guys just kicking the can down the road trying to wait him out, the unelected bureaucrats just being the guys in charge.
Based on Breitbart's reporting, what are the most dishonest narratives that the established media is pushing right now that the people need to be aware of?
I mean, there's such a different dichotomy between what I read in the press and what I see in real life.
Yeah, so the first one is, just to emphasize it because it is the big story this week, is the tariffs that the economy is crumbling.
No, the stock market's down a little bit, but again, as we're having this conversation, Don, it's up year over year.
The way I phrase it is we had a Biden sugar high at the end of his presidency where he tried to pump all this money into the economy, which artificially juiced it, and that sold off, but it is not the end of the world for the economy because we saw a roaring jobs report for this month.
Big distinction.
Also, roaring non-governmental jobs.
So it's just not a bureaucrat.
These are actual factory workers.
These are real people.
These aren't government bureaucrats that are getting paid a lot of money probably to do nothing.
Yeah, and so the latest polling in his approval numbers are he's at 54% in one poll.
I mean, these are monster numbers, especially after SignalGate, where we were all told that he'd compromised national security because Jeffrey Goldberg got put on one signal text chain.
The public is not buying it, which is such a relief, because it is nice to actually talk about the issues and not just complain about the media.
Because when we're talking about these tariff policies, they're actually pretty nuanced and really interesting.
There's a lot of different elements to them.
The nature of the reciprocal tariffs.
First of all, Don, here's another fake news item.
How come we were never allowed to ask that why are we getting tariffed by Vietnam 90% and we barely tariffed them at all?
Why is that okay?
Why do we like that?
And that's from the people that are talking about free trade endlessly.
They're talking about free trade endlessly, but there's nothing free trade about them putting a 90% tariff on our stuff but not doing anything back.
Exactly. And so that's why I've called for equitable trade.
Like, I think we've got to rebrand reciprocal equitable because we could use the last favorite word for it.
And it's just, like, that's what we need.
And here's the thing, is that the way we've readjusted the tariffs is we're still getting rolled.
We're just getting rolled a little less.
And that's all.
We sent a signal to the world, you've got to cooperate.
And one by one, all these nations are going to come to heel.
As we're having this conversation today, the EU is talking about, can we have some zero-to-zero tariffs now?
Ursula von der Leyen, one of the number one globalists on planet Earth.
She's coming back to the table.
She was whining like a little baby last week.
And this week she's saying, OK, Don, let's talk.
What can we do, Mr. President?
And that's how it's going to go.
And my audience is just so thrilled.
They're over the moon for those two things.
First of all, it's the right policy.
And second of all, the bravery, the ballsiness, the fearlessness.
I mean, you see him earlier in the week.
We're just joking around with the Dodgers, like making fun of the Democrat senators in the room.
I mean, that's the guy we love.
It's the guy who is just fearlessly standing up against.
Yeah, and that doesn't mean there's not some short-term pain, but we live in this instant gratification society where we expect everything to be great in the short term and also work out in the long term, and that doesn't work out well.
I think for the average American right now, listen, if your 401k takes a 5%, 10% hit for a few weeks...
That's probably less important to a lot of Americans because it's going to come back than oil prices going below 60 for the first time in years.
We got a little test run in the first two months of the presidency, which was the egg prices, which were artificially inflated because of a bird flu.
And we were told it was because Trump's terrible.
And then when the chickens got caught up, the industry got caught up, now egg prices fell off a table.
Was there a single person in the media who apologized for freaking out about the egg prices?
Of course not.
But 12.01 p.m. on January 20th, one minute into my father's presidency, they were like, egg prices haven't come down yet, Alex.
Look at it.
It's like just getting into office actually can magically somehow undo four years of disastrous decisions, killing of millions of chickens unnecessarily.
I mean, it was all on purpose, but they expect the instant gratification.
Exactly. And that's exactly the message, that just to remind everyone, if you're insecure, if you're not thrilled about what's going on for whatever reason, and you think the media might be getting a foothold, remember the egg prices.
We had six weeks of nonstop.
He can't get the egg prices down.
He's a failure.
And then they plummeted.
They fell to the floor, and everything's fine.
So hold the line.
It's all good.
John, we also got some new data points after the 2024 election, showing some of the biggest shifts right.
We're actually in California among working class Latino men.
What do you think the significance of that and, you know, can that be sustained?
Well, the biggest gains that you saw were in places that weren't even really contested.
They were in these deep blue districts that are primarily Latino districts, places like L.A. County, the Inland Empire.
And those races ended up being so tight.
I assume that many of those seats will be targeted seats next time around.
And I think that obviously the wokeism upset a lot of these working-class Latinos, the same things that upset the working-class whites.
But I think that the COVID-19 shutdowns, everything that we experienced here under Gavin Newsom, where the schools were shut down, the economy was shut down.
at one point they were arresting people if they were out on the beach, because, of course, you know, that's what spreads COVID.
And there is residual anger that exists, particularly in those communities.
And then when you throw in crime and homelessness and everything on top of that, what you're what you're ending up with is a group of people who the Democrats took for granted for decades and decades and decades, who now are looking at someone like your dad and his message
is is connecting with them.
And I would add one thing, too, to the tariffs and the trade war that's going on right now that I think impacts that community.
It's also a national security issue.
Because as we saw during COVID, if you don't make anything, if you don't manufacture drugs, if you don't manufacture things that you might need in a crisis, you're dependent on people who may not be your friend to provide you with those goods and services.
And the next time the boys in Wuhan cook up another virus that gets us all in trouble, if we don't fix this trade imbalance, your drugs might be on the other side of the Great Wall.
Well, and they did that.
They did that with a lot of the PPE equipment.
You know, if we accuse them of doing what obviously they were doing and did, you know, I think everyone now realizes that, of course, you know, the COVID, you know, Wuhan flu started in the lab that studies the exact virus in question at ground zero of the outbreak.
I mean, it was always the most plausible, but that didn't matter.
But I think it's a really bad tactic to be entirely dependent on your enemies for all of the things that you need in a time of crisis.
Don, can I identify a pattern here that I'm seeing with some of President Trump's moves in the first couple months here?
Is that he's really looking down the field.
He's looking past the next election.
He's really looking, I think, at legacy building.
And so he sees these things that are not imminent threats to us, but are potentially threats, you know, one or two steps away.
So, like Taiwan.
Which is, we're dependent on them for microchips.
Okay, well, right now, that's fine.
There's no big deal.
We get along with Taiwan well.
China's not in a super strong position, so it doesn't look like they're invading Taiwan.
They're not going to do that while Trump's president anyway.
But we can't be dependent.
It's too close.
It's like we can't have a single point of failure.
Yeah, it's 68 miles from China.
I mean, we're 7,000 miles away.
So even with our best efforts, I mean, you know, even with a better military, even with a better whatever it may be, and that's not that easy to defend.
Exactly. OK, so and then how about Greenland?
So Greenland, so Russia's encroaching into Europe a little bit.
China's encroaching in the Arctic.
Do we think China's really going to, you know, militarize the Arctic and take it over completely right now?
No, probably not.
But they could soon in a few years, who knows, five years, ten years.
So let's go up there and let's go get the resources and let's put some bases in there and let's have a great strategic post.
And that sort of vision is what we like about him because he's not just focused on what's going to be on the top of CNN's homepage today.
And that's not the president.
CNN's homepage, CNBC's ticker at the top of their page.
That's not the president.
The president's someone who has a vision looking at this country over a hundred-year time horizon and thinking, how do we put America in the best position for the whole century?
And we've never had that.
We've only had people who have focused on getting on magazine coverage, etc.
And this is nice.
It's totally refreshing to me.
Well, for both of you, let's get into that a bit more.
There's this pivot into the Western Hemisphere.
What's the opportunity there?
Maybe we'll start with John, since I got both of you guys on.
I think what Alex said is essentially right.
The people who are going to benefit most from what your dad is doing right now are the people who haven't even been born yet.
Because we live in an extremely dangerous world.
And if all you're thinking about is the short term, what will benefit me politically?
What will help me win the next election?
What will help get...
The stock market as high as possible today, you allow many of these problems to fester, whether it is immigration, trade, any of those subjects that deal with what's going on here in the Western Hemisphere or beyond.
You know, those subjects have been neglected.
And they've been neglected by members of both parties.
And it's also, by the way, it foreshadows, I think, future fights that your dad's going to have with even Republicans in Congress, because many of them still look at the world in very short-term ways because they have an election coming up or they're worried about losing their committee chairmanship if they don't continue to keep control of whatever house they happen to be in.
And I think the fact that your dad has stood so firm and has not blinked and has not flinched, and at this point they should be aware of that, you know, is going to help him with these negotiations and help him to move Congress and to get them to fundamentally do things that they do not want to do,
which we have to do if we're going to be healthy in the long term.
What about you, Alex?
Yeah, yeah, I like it.
I think, first of all, when it comes to economics, I think that what The gambit Trump is making with our trade right now, it's all China-focused.
I think my unified field theory right now is everything he's doing is about China, and I could...
I'll walk you through that, but it would take a little while.
But I think he sees it as a win-win when it comes to China, which is either we decouple from them entirely or they're just a lot better to work with and we have more reinforcements and more assurances and guarantees.
But if decoupling is where it goes, then he's developing these relationships with Mexico, with people in Central and South America.
These countries really want to play ball with America, and you can see this wave of conservative Trumpian figures who are winning elections.
I think Mexico wants...
Manufacturing in the United States.
So I think that they're going to play very nicely because they want to manufacture for the United States.
They want to do that.
I think they want to make cars.
They want to make things down there.
And I think they're going to figure out a way to cooperate.
And that includes with immigration policy because that's one thing.
If they want to get back in the United States with lower tariffs or no tariffs, then they're going to have to help us not have caravans come up.
We should have seen the last caravan.
If we're on the track we're on now, if Trump holds the line, if we all hold the line, I think we might never see another caravan again come into the country.
It's amazing stuff.
So I do think that a lot of it is trying to insulate ourselves from, I think, you know, China in particular, but really the rest of the world.
And if we could have more dominance in North America, in this hemisphere, I think it could be really, really productive, again, for, as John said, for people not even born yet.
How do you stop China from sort of just, you know, shipping their stuff to Mexico and then they use USMCA to ship their, you know, they throw a sticker on it saying, eh, kind of made in Mexico, you know, over here.
Because, you know, the one thing you do have to stop is sort of the bad actors from, you know, playing those kinds of games.
Secondary tariff.
It's the tariff bank shot.
I talked to the president about this when I got to see him a few weeks ago, and he was talking about this exact thing.
He was talking about how you actually have to tariff certain things because, not because of where they're coming from, but from where they originated to begin.
So this is where it's really kind of fun and wonky, and we go through this a lot at brightboard.com.
We have a guy, John Carney, who's just, I think he's the best at understanding the magnomics and the tariffs of anyone.
And he explains all this stuff to me, and it's really a delight to hear about it because it shows you there is a lot of nuance and sophistication because it's not one blanket tariff policy.
There's going to be probably hundreds, if not thousands, of various policies around the world because so many things need to be tariffed in different ways.
So there's a solution to everything.
So, you know, both of you guys run media operations where you're mostly, you know, the counterweight to traditional, you know, DC talking points.
You know, how does Breitbart, how does talk radio continue to break through that noise, John?
Well, we are the alternate media.
We always have been the alternate media.
And the mainstream media...
I worked at CNN at one point in the past, so I'm very familiar with it.
I'm so sorry.
There is a level of groupthink that they have that they just can't get out of that bubble.
And they don't understand why they lost the last election.
They still don't.
I mean, you look at them, you look at these programs, you look at The View or MSNBC or any of those channels or programs, and they act like they won the election.
And they act like the voters signed up for the platform that Kamala ran on, and we have this occupying force that just took over the country and is taking us in all these directions that no one signed up for.
Well, did you pay attention to any of his rallies?
Did you get the papers?
I mean, he's doing everything that he ran on.
There are no curveballs here.
He's throwing fastball after fastball right over the plate.
Every single day.
No one should be surprised at anything going on right now.
But you look at the mainstream media and it's like they're living in a completely alternate reality.
So for people like us at Breitbart or in talk radio or on the internet or doing what you do with this program, we are kind of the sunlight, the reality.
That gets shown in.
No, that says, no, this is exactly what America signed up for.
And you look at Donald Trump's popularity and you look at the popularity of the Democrats and there's no comparison.
But you wouldn't step away with that idea of watching mainstream media.
Yeah, this is such a great conversation and something that, you know, I'm a really.
I'm lucky because I've been a part of this history since I was the first employee of Andrew Breitbart.
But the conversation has just moved in completely different formats than newspapers and cable news.
I mean, Fox is very strong right now.
Newsmax is doing well.
But it really is these podcasts.
Rumble does an amazing job on podcasting.
I'm on Rumble Talk Radio still.
And Alternative Media and the X platform, where a lot of the main conversation is taking place on a platform that's owned by...
President Trump's right-hand guy, Elon Musk.
So there's so much going on where the conversation can – it can gestate.
People can develop ideas.
People can debate ideas.
And you do not need the filter of anyone in the establishment media.
And a lot of people in the establishment media seem to be getting it.
You see Jeff Bezos basically coming out against his own – The Washington Post, the LA Times, which is just an absolute, not worthy of birdcage lining, but still the guy runs it there.
He's trying to make some...
They understand the writings on the wall.
The establishment media is dying, if not already dead.
And the conversation is elsewhere.
One of the reasons why Donald Trump won is because he had that brilliant podcasting strategy at the very end where he went on all these shows and spoke to all these people who not only had never been spoken to, but you could not speak to them.
Kamala Harris could not do a three-hour podcast where she holds court on all sorts of topics.
President Trump lives for that.
He literally would rather tell you stories when you spend time with him about...
Real estate conquests and negotiations with other famous people where he got the upper hand.
He loves that stuff.
He loves, and people love hearing about it.
It's a huge advantage for him and for our movement, which is much more depth of thought.
Yeah, and now that you have, you know, X, at least allowing for free speech, you know, true social, you know, even to your point, some of the other guys, you know, Patrick Suncheon over at, you know, the LA Times just being like, well, we're not going to just blindly endorse Kamala Harris anymore.
You know, I know that's not easy.
But now that our ideas actually have a chance to get out in the ether and they're not just censored, suppressed, smothered entirely while just sort of pushing the narrative, all of a sudden we have a chance at actually winning these arguments because other people actually see the other side for the first time ever.
Yeah, I think so.
And this is one thing that is all of the Democrats should be challenged to do these long interviews because they can't.
And all the...
Top conservatives can.
You can do them.
JD, of course, can do them.
President Trump can do them.
I mean, virtually the entire cabinet.
I mean, you saw Scott Besson was on Tucker's show.
He just goes for two hours.
They can't do this stuff because their arguments are paper thin, and they're all political, and they're about short-term political gains.
And this is one thing where they've gotten away with it for so long, because they're so organized.
Their community organizing is so good.
They're so well-funded by the George Soros's of the world, the Lorene Powell Jobs's of the world, that they could basically just bully you into submission with raw organizing power.
And now we're...
Busting that open, too.
I mean, think about the Stacey Abrams NGO that was getting $2 billion from the government.
And that's ending.
That's going away.
And that is going to completely devastate their organizational infrastructure.
Again, it helps us.
Well, John, I've got one thing to that.
And that is, all of these Democrats who are trying to copy your dad are doing it all wrong.
When he went on those podcasts...
He went on the successful podcast that had their own social network, and he took his message to a social network that may not be a social network that was really paying attention to him in any sort of close way.
He did it with Rogan, did it with Undertaker, did it with all of those.
And he was the same guy.
It was the same guy at the rallies, same guy that you see at the White House, same guy that you see anywhere and everywhere he shows up.
He was authentically himself.
In all of these forums.
You mean he didn't change his accent depending on who he was talking to to try to sound more like the base of listener?
Oh, but look at Gavin Newsom and look at how he's doing it.
Instead of going on other podcasts where they're the ones asking the questions, he figures if I start my own podcasts, then people will pay attention to me the same way they paid attention to Trump.
So he does one with Marshawn Lynch and he goes out there with this like Amos and Andy Droll because I guess that's supposed to speak to an urban audience.
And it's like –
I mean, it could be regarded as offensive, maybe.
If I did it, that would be called cultural appropriation.
I don't know.
I think that's a good get.
I think, Don, I think you've got to get Marshawn for yourself.
I was at Berkeley when he was on the Bears, and I've got to tell you, those were good days.
Those were good days.
A guy could really run the football.
Well, John, you were actually one of the first ever pro-Trump contributors hired by CNN.
You alluded to that earlier.
You were kind of the original Scott Jennings, who seems to be going out there and committing homicide almost on a daily basis.
I'm actually shocked they still let him go on the air, because it's him versus four or five people half the time, and he's just murdering them, and they allow it to continue.
How do you reflect on that?
Cable news changed between then and now.
Yeah, he is the blonde girl on the Munsters over there, but he's doing a great job.
And every day, it's just he's racking up the W's.
It's an interesting role to play where you know you're the heel, where you know that you're there to give an unpopular position in a shop where the gravitational pull certainly goes the other way.
And part of what you see when you have a dynamic like that is you have people who start out with really, you know, the right ideas, and then they get sucked into these shops where you get rewarded if you go the other way.
So you had a lot of people who work at CNN or MSNBC who started out at Fox and you saw them and you go, okay, that's a reasonable person.
That's a person with their head screwed on straight.
And then they go over there and they sound like these Lincoln Project people all of a sudden.
And you go, okay, what happened to this person?
What happened to them?
And the answer is you get rewarded in those shops when you go ahead and do that.
For someone like Scott Jennings to just dig in his heels and to just hit them with facts day after day after day after day, I can only imagine how icy those green rooms are and how much they must hate his guts.
I hope he's got a food tester in the cafeteria.
I hope they're filming all of that because one day they should air it.
And I imagine the ratings would actually go through the roof for them, although it probably wouldn't be their traditional base of viewership.
No, the ratings won't go up.
And this is why I'm loving this so much.
And I really admire what Scott Jennings is doing.
He really takes the persona that I try to take whenever I get invited to hostile media is just politely explain our positions, ask them to defend their positions.
You'll have to yell at them.
I think it's...
Perfect. He's perfectly media coach.
He knows exactly what he's doing and he's doing a great job.
But the most delicious part about this for me is that the ratings are still bad.
So all of us, we just wait for the clips online of Scott Jennings demolishing people.
And then we get to see the clips and we have a great time watching them.
But CNN is not really making any money off of it, which is really great because no one's tuning into Abby Phillips' show, which is too late and no one cares.
We just wait for the three-minute viral Scott Jennings clip.
And so it's just a perfect world for us because we get all of the glory without CNN actually doing well.
That's definitely a win-win.
I've got to ask you guys both, since you're both such California experts, what's going on with the fire cleanup and the insurance crisis there?
Have elected leaders learned anything?
I mean, it seems like the story has just gone by the wayside, and yet people are told they can't build back what they had.
I don't hear of any actual progress.
Have those leaders learned anything?
What about the voters?
It's moving very slowly.
You know, when your dad was in town, everything was going to move lickety-split.
We're going to move heaven and earth, and we're going to get this thing rebuilt right away.
And then right after he leaves, oh, it's going to take about five years.
That's what the mayor said.
And she has not had a good news cycle since these fires started.
It's just been scandal after scandal, gaffe after gaffe.
And she is so radioactive right now.
Even people like Gavin Newsom don't want to be photographed with her.
When he comes down and he talks about the fires, you usually see him in Altadena because that's not in the city of L.A. and he's not going to be photographed with her.
We have a lot of problems.
You mentioned insurance.
Right now, the state of California has an insurance crisis where Allstate and State Farm have moved out of the market.
I'm represented by Allstate.
I tried to increase my umbrella.
I couldn't do it because they said if you live in California, We're not expanding any of our footprint in that market at all.
Newsom has no plan on what to do about it.
He punted the insurance commissioner.
The state legislature did the same thing.
And these people right now are failing in a very public way.
And it'll be interesting to see how Gavin Newsom tries to get around this when he runs for president.
My guess is what they're going to do is they're going to place all of the blame on the mayor of L.A. and potentially the insurance commissioner for screwing that up because there's no good look for any of them out of this.
Yeah, I mean, they can try to do that, but I mean...
He's still the governor of the state.
I mean, he's the guy that's going to ultimately control the purse strings for how these things happen and or the consequences of inaction.
How does he escape from that?
Well, he says he's the mayor.
He blames the mayor.
What do you think, Alex?
Yeah, he can't, and he absolutely can't, because there was no preparedness that was done, because we spent so much time on trout runs and the Delta smell.
Don, I think we talked about this last time we were on together, is that your dad was totally right about this, that we really did ruin everything for the Delta smell.
In 2018, he was right about this.
He's like, hey guys, this is going to get worse.
This was a little bit more of a remote fire.
It did a lot of damage, but the same, you know, tinder exists in these much more residential areas, and if and when that happens and you're not prepared.
You're going to have a problem.
Six years later, Trump was right about everything as usual.
Yeah, so there's so much that can be done on this, but this latest report, an economic recovery report that we covered at Breitbart, shows that we're basically on track for recovery by 2029.
So we're talking four years, and so this is a huge opportunity if...
Rick Grinnell and Lee Zeldin and the people from Trump's team who are tasked with this, if they do a good job and can accelerate this a little bit, it could be a really big win for Republicans and President Trump long term.
But it's very tough when you've got such an intransigent government that's not used to doing anything productive.
There's one lawsuit suggesting that the fire or at least a secondary blaze that hurt in the Palisades was from power lines.
So it was from infrastructure that should have been rebuilt with all that money that Joe Biden had and all the money in the California surplus.
And we didn't do anything with it.
And so we just wasted it on a bunch of DEI and woke stuff, a bunch of trans sports stuff that Gavin Newsom was really into until he started podcasting and then says he doesn't like it anymore.
So it's and there's a lot of.
It's tough with the insurance because why, if you're an insurance company, would you want to insure people in a state like this when it is basically a desert, it's a tinderbox, and the government doesn't maintain stuff in a way that protects them?
So it really is a catch-22, and there needs to be so much done, but an overhaul in leadership is step one, which is why you're seeing people.
Now, can we keep them as permanent Republicans and conservatives?
That's on us to convince them.
But you're seeing huge demographic shifts specifically because the incompetence is it's everywhere you look in the city.
So obviously you see that shift with Latino voters, men, African-American men.
Can you get the rest of the populace to finally understand just how badly their leaders have failed them?
Yeah, I think so.
I think that – but you have to reinforce it.
You have to make the points, and that's where it's so – it's great that new media is ascendant because – You know that when Gavin Newsom does a podcast and he sounds pretty good, you know what he's saying is not true, but it is then on us to break it down and say, okay, well, here's why it's not true.
So he says that he's opposed to men playing women's sports, but he actually signed a bill suggesting that schools get punished and they lose funding if they don't allow men to play women's sports.
And he was one of the first states to have such a bill.
But you have to have us, we have to do the legwork and keep doing that, and then we have to relentlessly tell our friends.
I recommend shows like this one, recommend shows like my show or John's show to people so that people get those arguments and that we're speaking to people in our respective audiences, but then it's on our audiences to go out and take those messages to voters who are gettable now, who might be reconsidering things because of the nature of how Democrats have let them down over the previous years.
Yeah, it'd be nice if there was this overarching profession that, I don't know, reported on these kinds of things.
No, I mean, it's left to us.
That's why I always tell everyone, like, share, subscribe, get it out there, because there are people having these conversations, but there's a trillion-dollar mainstream media complex that's just going to sweep it under the rug, or they're going to do whatever they can to lie, cheat, distort the truth so that you don't have that change to people.
You know, who even while affected still may not be paying attention to politics because they're trying to rebuild a home.
You know, they may not be as in the weeds.
Yeah, they don't have the time to do it, but that's why the Scott Jennings stuff is so great because he's like, he's basically functioning as an ombudsman.
Where these papers used to have an editor who would look at the mistakes the paper would make, then would write about the mistakes.
That's what Scott Jennings is doing.
He's just sitting there saying, no, this is the mistake you're making.
And before, it would just go and hopefully we'd catch it at Breitbart or someone who talked radio would catch it.
But now you've got a guy just sitting there who's just policing them and saying, no, no, that was wrong.
This is what's happening.
And that's why it works.
It's very entertaining, but it's also very productive for all of us.
You're reminded of it everywhere you go.
I mean, when I tried to buy more insurance, oh no, we don't do that in California.
Or in Arizona, you could do it.
Not in California.
You get off the freeway, what's the first thing you see?
You see a homeless encampment.
You try to buy some shampoo, it's behind bulletproof glass, and you need the assistance of an associate.
You go rent a car in Oakland, and they give you a list of places you can't go because the odds of you getting the car broken into are so high, they won't insure you if you go to those certain establishments or there's certain neighborhoods.
Then you go, okay, even if you don't read the paper, Even if you're just completely unaware of what's going on in the world around you, you know this place doesn't function.
So it feels like despite all of that, in Washington, D.C., the Democrat California delegation still holds a massive amount of power.
Again, despite failure, despite seemingly a collapsing economy, despite no results, where does that come from?
You know, what's the inside baseball on how, you know, the San Francisco machine maintains that kind of power and hegemony in the swamp?
Yeah, I mean, in San Francisco, there was a political machine that ended up being very successful.
And San Francisco is a tiny little city.
You know, even in California, San Diego is bigger, San Jose is bigger.
But that's the political epicenter of the state.
And there was a guy by the name of Phil Burton, who was actually really the leader of that machine.
And he was the guy who was going to be the Speaker of the House, and he was the guy that was going to have all of this power.
He ended up dying a very young man and never achieved that power.
But the machine stayed in place.
And his wife was the one that on her deathbed, she replaced him when he died.
And then she died almost immediately after that.
And on her deathbed, she was the one that bequeathed the seat to Nancy Pelosi.
Who was her best friend.
And all of these people whose names that we're familiar with, whether it's Nancy Pelosi, Willie Brown, Gavin Newsom, Kamala Harris, they all come from the same machine that produced these people and produced this extremely successful operation of accumulating and distributing power.
And they took over the state of California.
And then after that, they took over essentially the National Democratic Party.
And none of that has changed yet.
And so even though the rest of the country looks at San Francisco and looks at California and they say, oh my God, you know, that's a state that's going to fall into the ocean if they don't figure out a way to fix it, because they're so good at this Machiavellian game of power, they're still in charge.
And I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Alex? Yeah, I think that's a really good summary.
And it is, the one thing I would add is...
Victory begets victory.
And I think this is something that we can emulate on the right, that they do very well, is that this San Francisco Mafia, which, you know, Willie Brown was sort of the main fixture in it because he had the longevity.
Recall, he was the guy who was dating Kamala Harris when she was 29 and he was 60 years old.
And he bought her a BMW 7 Series and all this stuff.
And he kind of anointed her.
And this is the same group of people that...
Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi and Gavin Newsom, they all came through there.
They all came through this sort of San Francisco slash East Bay enclave where all these liberal people were groomed and trained.
And they kept winning, and that is contagious.
Like, victories are contagious, and this is inspiring other people because with the left, their number one priority is not governing well.
It's political victory.
And we could use a little taste of that because we see all this stuff sometimes on the right.
Like, we get a victory, and then for whatever reason, we'll stand on ceremony.
We'll have some principle that will...
Stand in the way of us getting another one.
And so we need to ride the momentum.
They've understood momentum, that it's not a fake thing.
It's a real thing.
And just like a sporting event, you've got to understand that momentum matters.
And so that's why we need to run up the score when we're doing well.
And the left has been much better at that over the years than we have.
So, you know, speaking of victories, and I guess looking ahead, what do you guys see as the biggest fight conservative media needs to win?
In the information war leading up to the next election cycle, I mean, I think that's going to be everything, really.
What happens in Congress if they take over the House?
We'll get two more years of endless investigations and nonsense, and it's just a stall tactic, but it'll still be effective.
For me, the number one thing is tech.
So there's a couple of big problems here.
First of all...
The Google search engine feeds people left-wing BS.
It's constant.
It is incredibly biased against President Trump and his agenda and his supporters.
That was never fixed.
And so what I'm concerned about is we're now in this AI arms race where people are going to be reliant on AI for research, they're going to be reliant on AI for their information, that when people have questions that are going to Google, they're going to be going to their favorite AI search engine.
And what's going to end up happening is that all of the left-wing media The crap is going to be what is populating the AI.
Garbage in, garbage out, as the expression goes.
And so I'm concerned that over the next few years, as AI becomes normalized and people start using AI to answer more of their queries in life, that they're going to be just getting that same left-wing media that we are beating currently.
The AI is only sucking in the left-wing media into their algorithm, then we're going to have big problems.
And we do not have a plan on this yet.
And that's what I'm concerned about over that sort of four-year horizon.
What about you, John?
I think it's great that a lot of these billionaire newspaper owners are trying to move their paper in a different direction.
I don't think that's going to be possible unless they essentially lay off everyone in their shop.
And replace them with new people.
That's just the reality of it.
And they'll lose their whole audience, too.
Yes, they will.
You have to start over entirely, not just with that, but with your readership.
That's not the easiest thing in the world.
Pretty much.
But I think that Elon buying X and allowing that to really be an open town square was probably, outside of maybe the podcasts, the most important media story.
for the last election because information that would have been suppressed, like the Hunter Biden laptop, and it was successfully suppressed the last time around, could not be hidden this time.
We had access to information that would have been denied to us in the cycle before that, or the cycle before that, or the cycle before that.
The toothpaste is out of the tube.
And as long as that stays firm, as long as he's in charge of that platform, and he keeps it as an open platform where people can share information, I don't see how the left-wing narratives can overcome the truth.
I think the truth is going to get out there, and as long as people have access to the truth, that's going to make it real hard for them to win elections.
Well, Alex, John, thank you guys so much.
Very much.
Appreciate your insight on all of this and definitely look forward to having you back on the show sometime soon.
Thanks for having us.
Thanks as always, Don.
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