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Oct. 24, 2024 - Triggered - Donald Trump Jr
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More Media Hoaxes, They’re as Desperate as Ever. Interviews with Steve Moore, Lee Smith, and Matt Walsh | TRIGGERED Ep.185
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So this is a book that we just came out with.
So beautiful, look.
This is with the First Lady in front of the White House.
Really something, look, standing in front of the church.
Very famous photo.
Christians love this photo.
This is your favorite president with the queen.
And the cover is actually...
That's a cover.
Today's going to be a little different.
We're going to have three guests, all on different topics, and they're perhaps the three most important issues of this campaign.
First off, we're going to talk with economist Steve Moore on the cost of living crisis.
The cost of living crisis created by the insane policies of today's Democrat Party, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, Miracle.
Then, we're going to have author and investigative reporter Lee Smith on his new book, Disappearing the President, which tells the next chapter in the swamp's corruption and why Russiagate playbook is still rearing its ugly head once again.
And then...
This will be a fun one for you guys.
A little less academic, but the producer and star of the new film, Am I Racist?
Matt Walsh.
Matt Walsh is going to join us to reveal how...
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And joining me now, the coauthor of the new book, The Trump Economic Miracle, founder of the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, Steve Moore.
Good to have you, Steve.
Good to have you back.
Thanks, Don.
And it's great to be with you.
And boy, I just feel the momentum out there right now.
It's almost palpable.
And so I'm very excited about things.
And, you know, our book is just basically for pocketbook issues, for people who are going to vote, you know, based on those kitchen table issues.
The book just shows very clearly that Trump is record.
I'm just looking at the cold, hard facts.
Yeah.
His record for middle class Americans, whether it's on jobs, whether it's incomes, whether it's gas prices, whether it's small business conditions, whether it's mortgage rates, it's hard to find a single statistic or measurement where Biden and Harris have outperformed Trump.
So I just wanted to get that information out there, and I appreciate you having me on, because people keep saying that the economy is the number one issue, and if it is, then there's no question the guy who's going to save the economy, and that's Donald J. Trump.
So, you know, I guess, big picture, what is at stake this November economically for the average American?
And what is, you know, the Trump economic miracle that you're writing about?
What was his policies?
You know, here's a guy who came in.
He reduced taxes.
And as you know, I work with Art Lapper and Larry Kudlow and a gang of fantastic economists to help put that plan together for President Trump.
And he knew what he wanted to do.
We just kind of fixed some of the sharp edges on that bill.
It was a huge, huge success.
The average family saved $2,500 a year.
We brought factories and jobs back to the United States.
We put us back in the game.
Of course, the Deregulation saved the average family about $10,000, according to Casey Mulligan, one of the top economists at University of Chicago.
We had better trade deals that made other countries play by the rules.
And then, of course, we became the world's largest energy producer when Trump was president.
And for the first time in your and my lifetime, we weren't importing oil and gas from other countries.
I mean, those are just a few of the things.
And the thing is, Don, You know, I love the fact that Trump is now talking about that he's the common sense candidate because he is.
I mean, all the things that he's talking about are common sense.
They're not ideologically.
I mean, he's conservative, but these are just things that most Americans just nod their head and say, yeah, that makes sense.
That makes sense.
That makes sense.
I can't think of a single thing that Kamala Harris has said about the economy that makes any sense at all.
I mean, she wants a $5 trillion tax increase.
I can't think of anything she says that makes any sense at all, economically or otherwise.
But maybe, you know, talk about that, you know, the impact in real dollars to the average American, just so they understand.
Because, you know, again, you know, you and I, we talk about inflation.
You know, I think the better word for it is like sort of the Harris-Biden cost of living crisis.
Everything's more expensive.
It's not just rent.
It's not just energy.
It's not just food.
It's everything across the board.
And that means that people are really living in a cost of living crisis.
You can't afford to have the same lifestyle that you had four years ago.
You know, talk about that impact in real dollars.
Well, if you look at the, you know, it's funny because when I'll go on Fox News or some of these other shows and recite the official number, which is the prices are up by 20.1%, people will come up to me and they'll get angry.
And I say, why do you keep saying it's only 20.1%?
I say, well, that's the official number.
And people point out to me correctly, well, wait a minute.
My mortgage is up 65%.
My food prices are up 25%.
My electric utility costs are up 38%.
My gas prices are up 35%.
So in other words, Don, the things that people have to buy, the essentials, that inflation rate's up 30% to 40%.
Meanwhile, wages are up about 18%.
So just do the math.
That means the average family has lost, by my estimates, about $1,500 to $2,000 since Trump came into office.
I mean, since Biden came into office.
And that's remarkable because we're supposed to be in a recovery from what happened to COVID, and yet people are poorer today than they were four years ago.
Yeah, one of your peers, Paul Krugman, who won the Nobel Prize in economics.
He goes, no, no, no.
Inflation, in other words, the cost of living crisis, is under control.
I'm looking at this chart in the New York Times.
I'm saying, what is he talking about?
And then I see the asterisk.
And it says, as long as you don't include housing...
Transportation, food, and energy.
I'm saying, you know what?
I've been pretty blessed, but like for the average American, what else is there?
So you're saying housing, food, energy, and transportation are a total disaster.
They're through the roof.
But if you take those out of the equation, you should be thrilled living like a pauper.
I mean, these people are insane.
So, you know, I was especially angry when I saw, I think it was a week ago, the Wall Street Journal had this piece, of course, they put it on the front page, that they surveyed 50 economists.
I don't know who these economists are.
And they said, well, Kamala Harris will be better than Trump on inflation.
And I'm, what?
What are you talking about?
What kind of an idiot would say that?
I mean, the inflation rate when Trump was president for the four years was 1.9%.
And that's below the As you know, the inflation target that the Fed sets at 2%, so we're below their target.
The average inflation rate for Kamala Harris and Joe Biden in the last four years has been about 6.5%, so three times higher.
So how could anyone look at those numbers and say, well, gee, it's like saying, this guy struck out the last four times he's come to bat, then this guy hit three home runs in the last four times he's come to bat, but we think we're going to bring up the guy who struck out every time.
I mean, that's certainly an analogy that I can think of.
Yeah, he's due finally, maybe, right?
You know, I guess I'd ask, you know, my father did a lot as it relates to deregulation.
You know, freeing up those things, getting rid of some of the inefficiencies, the bloat, the bureaucracy that really stops progress and ultimately the growth that you need to grow out of so many of the problems that have been caused.
Where should we be deregulating?
So I'm so pleased.
I think one of the great assets for Donald Trump in this election has been Elon Musk.
Don't you think he's been amazing?
Yeah, it's been amazing.
Yeah, and he's just, I saw him over the weekend, and he, I mean, he just crystallizes things so well.
And he said, look, I've put satellites up in the orbit, you know.
And I do it with private money, no government money.
And now these idiot regulators are saying, well, maybe you shouldn't put them up in the air because these satellites might...
Have you heard about this?
The satellites might fall into the ocean and they might hit a dolphin or a whale.
And I mean, he's...
It's so preposterous because he could put up 100,000 satellites in the air and the idea that somehow even one of them would ever fall on a shark or a whale is one in a thousand.
So it's a ridiculous regulation.
And what he should have said, by the way, that is, wait a minute, the things that are killing sharks and whales are these offshore windmills that are, we see the whales, you know, being, you You know, being killed by these and sweeping up on the beaches.
Why don't we go after those?
Not his satellites that are really revolutionizing and bringing us into the digital and technology age.
How do you think my father stopped at McDonald's?
You saw that on Sunday.
How does that tie directly into this economic message?
What's the symbolism there for the average American?
Well, you know, Donald Trump has really made the Republican Party the working class, middle class party.
And I love that about him.
By the way, you know, I've had arguments with the president.
I don't always agree with everything he says.
I agree with about 80 percent of it.
And I think he's been amazing in terms of his performance.
But he just has the common man's touch.
And you know this 100 times better than I do because you've been around your father, you know, for your whole life.
But the few times that I've been around him in those settings, one of the things that first impressed me, Don, when I first met your father back in January of 2020, and it just struck a chord with me was how he treats people.
Yeah.
You know, you can really tell someone About someone by the way they treat the people that work for them.
He treats service workers.
He treats the Secret Service people.
He treats everyone with great respect.
And that's amazing talent that Trump, he makes everyone feel special.
No, I think without question.
It's a side he often doesn't show.
I think, you know, when he's trying to negotiate with Xi and Putin, he only puts up the hard edge.
But the reality, you know, I got in trouble for it like 20 years ago when I was the first person to coin him sort of the blue collar billionaire.
But the reality is like, that's who he is.
Like, that's actually who he is.
He doesn't always show that side.
He created an aura around being a Manhattan billionaire, but he's a regular guy at heart in so many ways.
Well, the funny thing, too, about the McDonald's experience was that, you know, the CEO of McDonald's said, we have no record of Kamala Harris ever working for McDonald's.
That was her one year of business experience.
And, you know, my response to that is, what kind of a loser has to put on their resume, lie on their resume about working one year at McDonald's?
But this is a serious point, though, because There's a huge difference between, just put ideology aside.
We may, as Americans, disagree on the issues, and that's fine.
We're America.
We often disagree.
But you've got Donald Trump, who's built great businesses.
He's employed, I don't know, thousands, tens of thousands of people.
He's met payroll.
He's made profits for shareholders.
Kamala has never worked out.
For a business.
We thought she had one year business experience at McDonald's, but we don't even have verification of that.
So she's a lifetime politician and he's a businessman.
I mean, you know, who are you going to choose?
Yeah.
Steve, I'd be remiss though if I didn't, you know, obviously she'll lie about anything to try to, you know, ingratiate herself to regular people, but she's not a regular person.
She's, you know, I know they like to call us weird, but you listen to her laugh, you listen to the commentary, you listen to the lies, you look at her VP choice and you realize there's never been a weirder, you know, candidate set out there.
But, you know, since we have you and we're talking about economics, I do have to ask you about the Fed.
How many more dollars Can America print before it's just a catastrophe?
I mean, are we already past the Rubicon on this one?
I mean, I've never seen anything like it.
It's insane.
And it's not like it's funding things that are actually going to be beneficial to America.
Where are we with that?
And how do we stop it?
And, you know, is there still a component of, you know, almost regardless of who wins, even if it's Trump, are you still paying the piper for some of these decisions that have been so disastrous over the last four years?
Yeah.
Of course, because the second biggest expenditure item now, you know this, even bigger than our national defense, it's just interest on the debt that mostly Biden has racked up.
And so that is a big problem.
But I'm not going to blame that on the Fed.
I mean, they have some blame because the Fed accommodated the massive deficits by Biden.
Well, they got political.
They made it political.
They chose a horse.
They're not doing what for the American people.
They're trying to sway an election and they're trying to, you know, artificially bolster an economy to make it seem like, you know, the incompetent policies of the Democrat Party are somehow good for America.
Yeah, no, you're exactly right about that.
You know, the fact that they did a 50 basis point decline in the interest rates, they waited, what, two or three years to do that, and then they do it on the eve of an election.
And Jerome Powell, sanctimoniously, always talks about how we can't make the, you know, the Fed political.
That was one of the most political moves ever in the history of the Fed.
And by the way, the next Fed meeting, do you know what it is, Don?
It's the day after the election.
Of course it is.
Maybe they could have waited a few weeks to do that so they're not intervening, but of course they are putting their thumb on the scale in favor of Kamala Harris because, you know, they know that Donald Trump is going to put in new people at the Fed, and I think we do need We do need people.
But we also need, you know, we need a Congress that is going to get control of spending.
And that's why I go back to Elon Musk.
I love, love his idea of an efficiency, redundancy, waste commission.
You know what job I want if Trump wins?
I want to be the executive director of that commission.
And we're going to go through every nook and cranny of the government.
I think, Don, I really believe we could come up with $1 trillion of savings And Americans wouldn't even feel it.
Oh yeah, well, Elon did that at Twitter, right?
He cut 80% of the workforce and it functioned better.
Like, you know, imagine you put that to scale at the government.
I mean, I think a trillion dollars, you just, man, it's probably more than that.
And you compound that over generations.
And again, the inefficiency, the bloat, the bureaucracy, I think it would just be incredible.
Steve, tell us again about the book, where they can get it, where people can learn more so that they can check it out and try to educate themselves in the last two weeks of this thing.
Well, as you know, Arthur Laffermer, my co-author, the most famous economist in the world, and I served with great pride for Donald Trump in his first term in terms of helping advise him.
And so when we went to him with this book idea, because we wrote a book five years ago called Trumponomics and how it worked.
Yeah.
President Trump, all these charts about how much better the economy goes.
Yeah, I love this.
And then he said, what are you guys going to call this?
And we said, well, we're going to probably call it Trumponomics 2.0, because we wrote Trumponomics 1.0.
And he said, no, I don't like that.
Call it the Trump Economic Miracle.
So he came up with the title himself.
He's pretty good at that stuff, yeah.
We looked at each other and said, that's a good title.
And so it really is just a...
And by the way, people can read this for two or three nights.
Go to Amazon.
And you don't necessarily have to buy it for yourself, but it's a good way to be knowledgeable about the issues.
But what I want people to do is give it to any undecided voter you know.
We still have 10% of voters who are undecided.
If you have a neighbor or a family member or a colleague at work who I can't decide, give them this book.
It makes the case concretely.
Or read it yourself and tell them if they're too lazy to do it on their own because we've got to do everything we can between now and Election Day, right?
You got it.
Well, Steve, appreciate it.
Great having you back on.
Look forward to talking to you soon and look forward to maybe getting you in to head up that task force because I think there's a lot of great stuff we can do.
Tell the President that's what I want to do.
You always ask me, Steve, what do you want to do?
I may want that job.
That's what I want to do.
Well, I appreciate it, man.
Thanks a lot and good luck with everything.
Thank you.
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Now, as we've covered on this show day in and day out, the 2024 election may be our last real chance to end the lawfare and corruption once and for all.
We've seen how U.S. intelligence agencies have turned their tools against we the people and how a rogue cabal of bureaucrats will do anything to stop my father and the MAGA movement from taking back power.
Because, folks, they know they are one day closer from being exposed like never before.
The stakes are high.
The hour is late.
And it's why your voice matters more than ever.
Well, guys, joining me now, journalist and author of The Plot Against the President, the new book, Disappears.
Disappearing the President, Lee Smith.
Lee, how's it going, man?
Thanks very much for inviting me on today.
It's great to see you and great to talk with you.
Well, thank you for all you're doing and thanks for joining.
First of all, I'd like to talk about the title of this book, Disappearing the President.
I loved the plot against the president originally back in, I guess, probably 2020 when that came out.
But What an ominous but probably accurate title.
Talk about where the book started for you, what you found, you know, and what changed in sort of the evolution of you talking about My Father's Presidency.
Right.
Well, I mean, I think that what we've seen is, I mean, this is really disappearing.
The president's really kind of an encyclopedic account of what we've seen since 2016 up through, you know, on the cover, there's the picture of your father getting up at Butler, Pennsylvania after he's shot and saying, fight, fight, fight.
So that's really what this is about.
Again, the encyclopedic account, what's gone into this, who's been part of this operation, Against your father, against his aides, against his supporters, against the Republic.
So that's really what's going on.
And the title refers to what happened mostly in Latin America in the 70s and 80s, when the intelligence services turned against the opposition and basically how they disappeared, the opposition.
And your father, as I describe in the book, your father is...
the leading dissident of the free world.
And I describe him throughout the book as the leader of the opposition.
I think it's important not only for the United States, but insofar as, again, he's also the leading spokesman for freedom of speech.
So this is important, of course, for us, for Americans, but across the world as well, what he stands for, freedom of speech, and being part, being the leader of such an important opposition movement, which is really how I understand your father's role over the last eight years at least. which is really how I understand your father's role over So, I mean, the book exposes really how a network of powerful left-wing activists has waged a years-long scorched-earth war to eradicate the notion of America first.
I mean, I don't know what the problem with America first is, but apparently they do.
And ultimately, my father's influence.
Why is that?
What is it about my father that has these people losing their minds every single day?
I mean, we saw just recently with your father at McDonald's, I mean, why people would go crazy about this.
But it's just such an American thing, and it's beautiful.
And the people who respect and admire your father, you saw the stuff they've been posting on social media.
I mean, it's just lovely.
It's so American.
I think that's the major part of it.
I think that we're talking about people who don't like this country.
We know them all the time.
Unfortunately, it's millions and millions of people.
We're used to seeing them on college campuses, and we're used to seeing them on left-wing television.
Unfortunately, there's a lot of these people who have also played very prominent roles in our government.
Over the last several decades.
And I think that's really one of the most important things about disappearing the president.
Again, it's an encyclopedic account of the way of how your father has been targeted.
Surveillance, censorship, political violence, of course, but also identify the people who are driving this campaign.
And it's not just a deep state.
It's not the system.
It's not an abstraction.
Your father identified Your father identified it as early as March 2017, if not before.
When he tweeted out, he said, you know, wow, I just heard that.
I just found out that Barack Obama wiretapped me, had me wiretapped at Trump Tower.
And so your father really identified the issue right there.
And that's what this book is about.
It's really showing the hand of his predecessor, how he's been targeting Donald Trump for eight years.
Talk about that a little bit more.
Can you talk about the revolving door and the relationship between the intelligence community, big tech, all of these fake NGOs, which is basically the government's way of money laundering to do what they want, but in a way that's not audited by the American public.
They give these NGOs money, they go function as essentially governmental entities, all left-wing.
How does that network operate?
And how does the media enable their corruption?
Because that's all it is at this point.
Well, I mean, the media won't talk about it, right?
I mean, one of the things, for instance, the media won't talk about, I mean, Barack Obama is the first president who stayed in Washington since Woodrow Wilson 100 years ago.
And Wilson had a stroke, of course.
He was incapacitated the last 18 months of his presidency.
So some of the times the media is making stuff up, and other times it's by omission that it's covering things up.
But it's fascinating that you talk about the revolving door with big tech, the intelligence services and political operatives.
And we actually saw this start, especially during Obama's second term, going back and forth between Washington, D.C. and Palo Alto.
And then after your father was elected, we saw this start to happen with the intelligence services, FBI, CIA, dozens, hundreds of people at Facebook, at Twitter.
at places like Reddit, places like Airbnb, It's just astonishing.
So how the government has infiltrated big tech platforms, and it's no mystery then why we've seen surveillance, why we've seen censorship, because that's what they've done.
The government and the intelligence services have infiltrated these private industries as well as...
As well as other institutions, including Wall Street.
What did you learn about how all of this impacts our election process?
Obviously, we're less than two weeks out.
And why is it that the ones screaming about protecting democracy seem to be the same ones working almost tirelessly to totally undermine it at all costs?
Right.
I mean, of course, we know now that whenever we hear democracy come out of their mouths, I mean, it always comes with scare quotes, right?
They don't really mean democracy.
What they're talking about is basically their own regime, right?
They've divided the country in half.
What they're talking about is they're talking about their privileges and their prerogatives, and that's what they're worried about.
That is the key thing that they're worried about.
And we see it's we're living in a virtually Orwellian time when you hear them talk about how rights are being violated by asking the California law where it's illegal to ask for voter ID.
Right.
This is absolutely absurd.
But the people who are capable of seeing through this and more and more people are capable of seeing through it.
And that's why I think there is such an enormous groundswell behind your father right now.
I got the chance to speak to him at Mar-a-Lago.
Such a wonderful such a wonderful opportunity.
And he explained, he said, you know, I mean, the spirit is bigger here in 2024 than it was in 2016 or 2020.
And I think that's a lot of what's happening.
There's an awakening here.
There's an understanding of how people are trying to hurt the country and who's standing up for the country and what your father represents, represents to all Americans.
Right.
It's not just rightist or leftist.
We've seen different people.
Join forces with your father, whether it's Elon Musk, whether it's RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard.
So it's really an impressive moment, I think.
And that's something else the book really captures.
The history of what's happening here.
Just really an amazing moment.
And that's what's exciting, I think, about going into this election.
All the hope that people now have, right?
When they're talking about health, when RFK Jr.
is talking about health, how we're going to get people healthy again, how they're going to be eating again.
And, you know, your father out there at McDonald's doing this kind of work.
It's like making people...
RFK may have a hard time with that one, but I am...
I've seen him scarf down a burger or two, so everything in moderation, right?
I mean, the big thing was that he was working there and showing people whenever they say, oh, these are jobs Americans won't do, whatever it is.
I mean, of course, you treat Americans like human beings.
You give them a fair wage, and you talk to them about the dignity of work, and this is one of the things that your father reminded people of.
And so I think there's such a tremendous optimism going in.
And we're all worried.
We're all concerned because we saw what happened in 2020.
We saw what happened with the ballots.
We saw what happened with the fraud.
But I think that people are concerned, obviously, about that now, too.
But the optimism going in and the hopefulness, I mean, it's a tremendous reawakening for the country.
And again, I think that's something that's...
Captured and disappearing the president, as well as the ongoing campaign against your father, against the America First movement in general.
Lee, the subtitle of the book was sort of interesting.
I found it kind of fascinating.
It's Trump, Truth Social, and the Fight for the Republic.
What did you find out about Truth Social and the business side of this story?
Yeah.
I mean, the business side of the story is, of course, really exciting.
And one of the points I make, this is one of the guys at Truth Social who said, he said, yeah, now Donald Trump is a tech startup billionaire.
In addition to everything else that he's done, I'm like, yeah.
Yeah.
And he says in the book, he said elsewhere as well, that it's exciting how well it's doing and exciting the amount of money that the company has made.
But what's really important is that this is his voice.
So the book pays a lot of attention to January 6th, and that was banished from social media, banished from Twitter, banished from Facebook immediately right after January 6th.
And so he was looking for a way to address Americans.
He explains how he had so much to say and so many people wanted to hear from him.
And Truth Social is that.
It's his voice.
But it's more than that, too.
Truth Social is really sort of the backstop.
We're all very excited about what's happened with Twitter online.
under Elon Musk with his ownership.
But a lot of all of this is really made possible by Truth Social and the work your father did and the rest of the Truth Social team over there to make sure that people have an opportunity to speak to one another, to engage with your father.
This was always the thing that people love so much about Twitter, the idea that your father was out there all the time.
He's speaking with other people.
There were different friends of mine who were talking about Russiagate, and they would be retweeted by your father, and they would just lose their minds.
I mean, it made their months.
Yeah, well, I mean, with disappearing the president, I mean, without Elon...
That certainly would have happened.
So, you know, you had to be able to, they canceled the most powerful man in the world, totally took away that platform.
So you had to create something else.
Now, thank God Elon's in there.
So we have a little bit of everything.
I imagine none of these things would be getting out if it wasn't for Elon as well.
But, you know...
Talk a little bit about that, the threat of censorship.
Can we stop it once and for all?
Is that a bridge too far?
Where are we in that fight right now, in your opinion?
Absolutely, we can stop it.
We have to go after certain nodules.
I hope I'm not being too repetitive, but I want to say really the censorship campaign, the way that this really started was immediately after your father's his first election in 2016.
What happened was when Barack Obama pulled aside Mark Zuckerberg at a conference in Lima, Peru, he was very upset.
He was very upset that your father used Facebook to be able to speak to his audience and to be able to generate an audience because this is what Barack Obama had done in 2008 and 2012.
So the idea that your father had done the same thing, this really got under the skin of the left.
And so that's really where the censorship campaign started, going after your father, going after MAGA generally, going after AIDS as well.
well.
And we saw the catastrophic effect, which I describe in the book as well, what happened during COVID when people like Scott Atlas, who was your father's coronavirus advisor, when he was censored, when they wouldn't let him put forth his information about how people can best treat themselves, what they need to have happen. when they wouldn't let him put forth his information about
And of course, whenever your father talked about COVID back in 2020, whether it's talking about ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, I mean, they wanted to silence him.
So yes, it's very, very important for us to push through on this, right?
And it should not be that hard for us, because the problems that they say are presented by social media, it's nonsense.
We've always had these problems.
The point of the First Amendment, right, it's not to ensure the truth.
This is a lie that a lot of them are telling.
It's not to ensure the truth.
It's to make sure the state does not have the monopoly on speech, right?
I don't want to tell fiction.
If they're the arbiters of truth, they've been the largest peddlers of misinformation to begin with.
That's precisely what happens.
When they try to take control over the truth, when they try to take control over language and speech, then they're the only voice out there.
So sometimes they're telling truths, a lot of the times they're telling lies.
But if there's no opportunity for other people If we don't have the right to speak, then they're the only people who are speaking.
That opens it up for all sorts of insane lies.
And that's what we've been seeing for eight years now.
Well, Lee, where can people get the book and learn more about it?
Well, thanks.
From the publisher directly, Encounter Books.
Of course, also, you can pre-order right now on Amazon and Barnes& Noble, too.
And I always like to encourage people to use their local independent booksellers if they can.
But again, they can order directly from the publisher Encounter Books, Amazon and Barnes& Noble.
Well, Lee Smith, thank you very much.
Everyone, go check out Disappearing the President.
I think you'll like it.
And it's all about getting informed and making sure we understand exactly what we're up against this fight.
Thanks again, Lee.
Really appreciate it.
Thank you so much, Don.
Really appreciate it.
And coming up, am I a racist?
filmmaker Matt Walsh.
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And it is absolute madness.
It's all uncovered in a new film called Am I Racist?
by Matt Walsh.
And here is just a snippet of what he exposed.
Check this out.
Let's be clear, what's happening in this country, it's Nazism.
Republicans are Nazis.
You cannot separate yourselves from the bad white people.
Growing up in the 90s, I never thought much about race.
Sure, you noticed, but it never really seemed to matter that much, at least not to me.
Being a white, straight, cisgender man, it's the top of the pile.
I'm on the top of the pile.
That's me.
Am I racist?
I would really appreciate it if you left.
I'm trying to learn.
I'm on this journey.
Can you please leave?
I'm gonna sort this out.
I need to go deeper undercover.
If I want to be an ally, I need to look like one.
What is racism?
Martin Luther King said not to judge people by the...
Martin Luther King said a lot of stuff.
Is America inherently racist?
What the hell is that?
The word inherent is challenging there.
America is racist to its bones.
All of the...
So inherently.
Yeah.
The entire system has to burn.
And I'm not going to even use save this country.
This country is not worth saving.
This country is a piece of shit.
Oh, sorry.
Sorry.
Joining us now is Matt, certified DEI expert.
Here's my certification.
Where are you guys in your anti-racist journeys?
So look around the room and point to who we believe is the most racist person in the room.
We want to rename the George Washington Monument to the George Floyd Monument.
Would you mind signing it?
You will?
What do you think about this issue of heteronormativity and how it intersects with the broader structures of racism in society?
What's up with white people?
What are you doing to decenter your whiteness?
Who's making it the center?
Why are they doing that?
And what you're doing is you're stretching out of your whiteness.
This is more for you in this field.
White folks.
White trash.
White supremacy.
White woman.
White boy.
White entitlement.
White.
Centering.
White.
Silence.
Is there a black person around her?
There's a black person right here.
Does he not exist?
They gon' say I'm racist, but they call everybody racist.
Hi, Robin.
Hi.
And what's your name?
I'm Matt.
Matt.
Hi, Matt.
Thanks to nature.
I just had to ask who you are because you have to be careful.
Never be too careful.
They gon' say you racist, but they call everybody racist.
Joining me now, star and producer of Am I Racist, Matt Walsh.
Matt, good to have you with us here today.
Great to be here.
Thanks for having me.
Really appreciate it.
Well, listen, it's my pleasure.
I've been watching some of the stuff on social, you know, on the Gram.
I think they actually have to put you up for like an Academy Award because I don't know how you keep a straight face with some of these people.
The fact that you can do that is truly a testament to your acting abilities.
Well, I mean, I've already written my Academy Award acceptance speech, so I don't think I'll ever get a chance to deliver it, but I've already written it.
And I think one of the other problems, of course, is that the kind of film critic class Has decided to pretend this movie doesn't exist.
And I think they're going to stick with that.
That's been their strategy.
I think they're probably going to see it through.
Well, I mean, they do that a lot, but I don't think it matters.
I think they've discredited themselves so badly, it's just sort of allowed for the rise of other forms of getting it out there.
So, I mean, just congrats on all of it.
I think it's going so viral.
It was going viral before it was even out.
But I want to start by asking, you know, During the production process, how did that start for you?
How were you able to pull that off?
I sort of feel like when it comes to gender ideology, you're one of the guys that's out there most, and yet the people that are pushing this nonsense didn't even seem to even get that yet.
Yeah, well, that was a big question going into it, because, of course, my first movie, What is a Woman?, it came out two years ago now, and we were lucky to have a lot of success with that, so we went to make another film.
The big question was, is this something that I can do at this point without being recognized by every person I sit down with?
And what we found is that...
You know, fortunately, in almost every case, we found that we can do it and that most of these people, they really live in a bubble.
They kind of operate in this very insulated bubble where it turns out that if you're outside of that bubble, they just don't know anything about you.
And that's why I say it's interesting from my perspective because I don't think Some left-wing media figure could really pull this off on me and get me into the equivalent of this documentary on the left, because I know who all those people are.
I don't really like them.
I don't agree with them, but I pay attention to what the left is saying, so I know who their people are.
I listen to what they have to say, because I want to know what my opponents think.
But it's interesting that on the left, they don't operate that way.
If you don't agree with them, they don't care what you think.
They're not paying attention to you.
And that puts them at a disadvantage because they get easily blindsided in these kinds of situations.
Yeah, I mean, I think it all really sort of exposes just how much of the, let's call it like the DEI economy, because that's all it is.
It seems like a big grift.
But it's really like a self-parody.
When you just let them speak, the lunacy speaks for itself.
I mean, I guess that makes your job a little bit easier.
You just got to give them a little bit of the rope and they'll sort of proverbially hang themselves.
What what personally shocked your conscience, though, as you were shooting the movie?
Was there stuff that was just even beyond what you're used to?
And you're used to a lot because you've been on the forefront of this for a while.
I think, you know, I wasn't really shocked by anything.
You know, the DEI race hustlers themselves, the ones the Robin DiAngelo's of the world, the people that are making all the money and selling all the books.
There's nothing that they could say that that would shock me all that much because we kind of know what their shtick is.
So to me, that wasn't terribly shocking.
The thing that shocked me more was when I saw, I witnessed firsthand, not the race hustlers, but the people that go to the race hustlers and sort of turn to them as these moral gurus.
And so there are multiple scenes throughout the film where I attend, for example, something called Race to Dinner, where these two DEI people come in and they sit at a dinner table With a bunch of white women, and they tell the white women that they're racist for two hours.
And those white women pay thousands of dollars for the privilege of being called racist over dinner.
And that was the thing that was more surprising to me, is to see that the white women sitting at the table, what are they getting out of this?
Why are they sitting there and enduring this degrading experience?
So that, to me, is the most shocking thing, is to see how...
Yeah, I mean, is it just like, you know, sort of the nature of the, like, sort of the cuck mindset of the left?
Is it just they want to be demeaned that way, that it happens?
And, you know, really, when you interacted with these activists, you know, is there a difference between the activists and the guys that are just the pure grifters?
Did you get a sense they actually, you know, believed any of the stuff that they were pushing?
Or are they just legitimately insane at this point?
I think it's a little of column A, B, and C on that one, but I do think that, yeah, you do have the pure grifters that are mostly in it for the money, and it's not hard to figure out why they're doing it because of the money and also the influence that they have over people's lives, the power that they have.
There's the virtue signaling element.
So the grifters, that's, I think, what primarily drives them.
But Yeah, you do have the true believers.
They are the ones who are buying the books and going to the race dinners and going to the seminars and willingly subjecting themselves to it.
And as far as why they do it, I've spent a lot of time Trying to figure that out, you know, diving into this perverse mindset to figure out what they get out of it.
And I still don't know exactly.
I think part of it is it's kind of a religious thing.
It's almost there on the left.
It's their substitute for religion.
I think a lot of these and maybe I'm reading too much into it or I'm trying to get to I'm trying to read their minds too much.
Maybe even giving them too much credit.
But I do think that at some level, There's a guilt that they have.
Everybody feels guilt because we all do things that are wrong, but if you're a religious person, if you're a Christian, you have a way of understanding your guilt, and you know what you're supposed to do with it.
But if you're not religious, and people on the left, they're all mostly godless heathens, they don't have, you know, quote unquote, traditional religion.
So they have this kind of religious yearning.
They don't know what to do with it.
And then you've got these DEI hustlers who come in, and they're kind of the new priests and priestesses of this religion, this cult.
And they tell them, oh, I know why you're feeling that way.
It's because you're white.
And here's what you can do to alleviate your guilt, you know, buy the book, go to the seminar.
But then they do all that.
And then they're told at the end of it that, oh, by the way, you're still just as guilty and just as racist as you were when you started because there's no way, there's really no way to ever be free of it.
That's kind of the nature of the group.
Can you ever buy enough books to not be racist?
I guess this is the question.
But you're right about the religious thing.
I mean, I talk about that a bunch, which is like with the left, because they're always searching for that deity.
It always transforms, right?
It was like Greta Thunberg as the high priestess of climate change.
That flipped over to Anthony Fauci as the god of COVID. And now it's Zelensky in Ukraine.
And I imagine for a lot of people who may You know, have other problems.
It's probably this DEI mandate manifesting itself as some sort of guilt, but it's an ever-evolving thing.
I mean, when you talk about these things, you do talk about it sort of as an affront to a lot of the traditional values, whether it's Christianity, whether it's sort of the basic nuclear family.
You know, what's the future of the left if that's where they're going?
You know, again, juxtaposed towards, you know, again, traditional...
Christianity that you talk about a lot, the values instilled in that, as well as the nuclear family.
I think, well, there isn't much of a future long-term, and I think in particular with just taking DEI itself for a moment, I think that DEI is, it's certainly dying right now, and that happens,
this always happens on the left when they have some kind of item on their agenda, some program they're pushing that's really insane and hideous, but they get away with it for a long time because People don't notice it.
They don't know that it's happening.
And a lot of times these ideas, they start in the kind of ivory tower and academia.
And if you're just an average everyday American, you're not exposed to it.
And then it slowly seeps its way out from there into the general population.
But then it reaches a critical mass where people start to notice it.
And they're like, this is crazy.
Same thing happened with gender ideology.
And once that happens, once people notice it and they understand what's going on and they respond, as normal people do, to insanity, they treat it like it's insane, that's when it starts to...
It becomes untenable.
But then what you have to look out for on the left is, well, they're not just going to abandon the agenda.
Instead, they're going to try to repackage it.
And they're very good at that.
They're very good at taking an idea that people have rejected and repackaging it and just calling it something else.
And then they get kind of a second life out of it.
And so that's what I'm looking for with DEI.
What is their what's their new name, their new label, their new kind of dressing that they put on this so they can keep keep the griff going?
Yeah, you know, not so much for DEI, but I noticed, you know, seven, eight years ago when I started, you know, when the trans women in, you know, in sports, you know, started coming out.
And I was like, where are the soccer moms?
And even on Twitter back then, when it was, you know, 99% dominated by the left, you know, I'd put something against, you know, a boy playing against young girls in sports, and even there, like, overwhelmingly, I'd read the comments, and they're like...
Oh, I hate Don Jr.
with a passion.
I can't believe I agree with him on something.
It was never popular, and yet they were still able to get a foothold.
It wasn't something that even in a very leftist environment was really catching on, and yet they were able to keep pushing through.
What enables them to be able to power through even against popular sentiment?
I think there's a few things.
One thing is that people...
Oftentimes, this is certainly the case with gender ideology, is that people didn't understand how widespread and pervasive this actually was.
And sometimes it's almost like the left benefits from how crazy their ideas are, that the average person hears it, and if they hear it for the first time, they go, okay, but that's not a thing.
I mean, people don't actually buy that.
And so you almost just assume, I think it's logically you assume that it must be some fringe thing.
It's not...
It's not really relevant.
It's off on the fringes.
And so there's that.
And then also, and again, this is especially the case with gender ideology, but also with DEI, that people like Most people are polite, and most people are just nice, and they want to get along, and they don't want to be rude, and they don't want to hurt your feelings.
And so the left's able to exploit that.
And that's what makes it so insidious.
They exploit something in people that's good, which is a person's desire to just be polite and nice and not hurt someone's feelings.
That's a good thing.
I don't have that instinct.
I used to have that instinct, then I got involved in politics and broke it out of me.
Now I just assume the worst.
Exactly.
So for people like you and me, it's like we don't quite have that.
We're not saddled with the burden of trying to be polite to people.
But the average people are.
And then they become susceptible because then the left comes in and says, okay, well, you want to be nice to people.
You don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, right?
Well, then say the pronouns, do this, do that, go to the DEI program, and they're able to exploit it.
It's really sinister.
Yeah, I mean, you would think there'd be an endgame, though.
You know, when I'm watching these suburban mothers and they're like, their daughter lost their scholarship after watching, you know, triple headers of, you know, girl softball for 18 years, you know, you'd think there'd be a point where they're like, you know what, maybe this is too far now.
We're no longer being just welcoming or inclusive or kind.
We're actually...
We're really affecting the trajectory of our children's future that we put so much time and effort into, and that's the one I don't understand.
What's the endgame for the future for them, given, again, how pervasive it did get?
And although I agree with you that people are finally catching on.
They went too far, as they always do.
Yeah, I think, I mean, look, ultimately for the left with anything, the endgame is always destruction, really.
It's always about dismantling.
That's why they use the word dismantle as a positive thing.
So they want to dismantle, you know, the nuclear family, dismantle the so-called patriarchy.
They want to redefine, dismantle, destroy.
They don't have anything to replace it with.
It's just they know that they don't like this thing because of how it makes them feel and because they blame it for all of their problems and they blame it for all the oppression that they feel they've suffered, even though most of the time they haven't.
And so they just want to get rid of it.
They want to destroy it, but they don't really have a positive vision for the future.
Like, okay, we want to dismantle the nuclear family.
Well, Then what?
I mean, what's step two?
And they don't really have a step two, except for the state moves in and takes its place.
I guess that's the step two.
Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, it feels like the state is a big part of pushing a lot of this stuff.
You see all the, you know, the DEI programs and the veteran administrations, the, you know, the inclusive, again, not just DEI, but, you know, also the gender ideology.
But you also see it in the corporate side of things.
You know, I'd like to, why are DEI activists even being brought in for corporate politics?
Is it to avoid legal liability?
Is it a checklist against future discrimination lawsuits that we did these things?
How is it that corporate America, that's supposed to be a meritocracy, sort of adapts these programs, jams it down people's throats, which seem very contrary to what would be their fiduciary responsibility to shareholders or otherwise?
Yeah, I think you nailed it.
I think you landed on the answer there.
Because we talk about woke corporations and how these corporations are so-called woke, and they are in the way that they behave.
But I do still think that In business, the thing that these people really care about is making money.
They wouldn't be in the business in the first place if they didn't want to make money.
Whether it's Disney or any of these other corporations that we call woke, what they actually care about is making money.
Now, they get into the DEI stuff because they've been convinced that that's the best way to do it, that this is what they have to do to make money.
This will be the most profitable path for them.
But I think they're being proven wrong on that, which is why now you have a whole bunch of corporations that are You know, abandoning their DEI initiatives because they've realized that there's no there's no there's no profit here.
And all you're really doing is driving out the most qualified people.
And there's a there are consequences to that.
And the consequence hurts consequence hurts your bottom line.
And I think that these corporations like they can only endure that for so long.
They can only lose money from this stuff for so long before they're you know, before their woke principles kind of go by the wayside.
Yeah, but it's not just in the hiring process.
It's also in the people that they're catering to.
I won't have the Disney subscription.
I won't have that in my household anymore.
And I know millions more Americans.
When you look at what happened to the shareholder value of all of these companies, you see the attacks.
I mean, it does seem like it's taking...
Hold and people are sort of now, let's say, willing to vote with their wallet as it relates to that.
And yet it was going on for a while and they still sort of felt like they were doubling down.
I hope we've gotten to the breaking point where they realize it's not tenable anymore.
But it went on much longer than it should in a, let's call it a free market.
Yeah, it did.
It did.
But I think that, and we also have to keep in mind how much money is involved here.
And you have a company like Disney, for example, just using them, that they, there's so much money, they're making so much money, and they own all of these properties that are near and dear to the hearts of many of the customers that they now hate.
That gives them a cushion, but at a certain point, I think you have to respond to the marketplace.
This wasn't Disney, of course, but you look at the latest Joker film that came out, and just utter contempt for their own audience was seeping out of that film, and it completely bombed.
It was a historic embarrassment at the box office.
So, you know, the filmmakers involved, the people involved in that, are they going to...
Will they be thinking about that the next time they're making a movie?
I would think so, most likely.
I would hope so, but it's Hollywood, so you never know.
I mean, but I guess, you know, DEI is really a tenant of the Democratic Party platform right now.
I mean, is this election, you know, we're going to be less than two weeks out.
Is this election our best chance to finally end it, or does it not even...
Is it not even about politics anymore?
It's going to have to take place with the consumers.
Well, the consumers will have to have a lot to do with it.
But yes, I mean, absolutely.
This is...
I can't...
It's hard to imagine what will happen if we actually have the DEI president.
If the DEI candidate actually becomes president, then a lot of the progress that I'm talking about, we're making real inroads against the DEI madness.
We're making huge inroads against gender ideology.
All these things are linked together.
And if we get a Trump presidency for the next four years, then I'm not going to say that We'll live in a utopia and all of these problems will be gone.
But we can really put the nail in the coffin of a lot of these things.
But then if you get the DEI president in there, that's going to give all of this madness that we're fighting back against.
It's going to give it a second breath, a second life.
And we just can't allow that to happen.
I agree.
That would be the catalyst for more of this stuff to continue.
And guys like you and me and a bunch of other people are going to have to work a lot harder to end it.
But, Matt, where can everyone go to find the movie, to check it out?
I mean, I think, again, it's the kind of thing that people have to see.
Because if you do end up with the DEI president, you're right.
It's a disaster.
If people see this stuff, if people who are on the fence understand that this is the ideology of Kamala Harris and today's Democrat Party, I think it actually makes a difference in the next two weeks.
Where can they find it so they can see it and they can be reassured that we can put an end to this nonsense once and for all, hopefully.
Yeah, absolutely.
Am I Racist will be available on DailyWire.com on October 28th is when we're launching it on the platform.
So become a Daily Wire member and you can watch it on Monday, October 28th.
Very nice.
Well, I appreciate it.
Love what you're doing out there.
It's not only hilarious because it's entertaining for me, but it's actually tackling a real serious subject that is really problematic for the future of our country.
I love that you're doing it with humor.
Sometimes that's the best way to be a messenger and just point it out for everyone.
So, Matt Walsh, thank you for all of that.
And guys, make sure to check that out.
I really appreciate it.
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So this is a book that we just came out with.
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Really something like standing in front of the church, a very famous photo.
Christians love this photo.
This is your favorite president with the queen.
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