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On Every Issue, the Left is Lying, Interviews with Ned Ryun & Dinesh D’Souza | TRIGGERED Ep.178
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hey guys welcome to another huge episode of triggered
And today, it's going to be a really important one because we have author and America First leader, Ned Ryan, on the program.
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He also has a new book out called American Leviathan, and it details how the left is
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Everybody thinks Leviathan, thinks the Old Testament creature, sea monster.
Well, the second definition is a political state tending to be a totalitarian one with a vast bureaucracy.
And I feel like we have gotten to this point with our administrative state, the American Leviathan, that it has become to the point where I'm not really sure representative democracy is truly accepted by many people in Washington, D.C.
I think they left it behind a long time ago.
Oh, 100%.
I mean, that's every day, right?
I mean, we're saving democracy by bastardizing democracy.
We're saving democracy by not allowing you to vote for the person you want to vote for, or we'll save democracy by installing a puppet candidate who hasn't actually won any votes because she can't win under the regular rules of our democracy.
I mean, it's...
It's mind-blowing, right?
Like, I wake up, I always say, like, I'm the star of The Truman Show, and I don't even realize it, right?
Like, I'm waiting for a camera to fall out of the ceiling and hit me in the face, because, like, it has to be a joke, and yet, it's not.
So, I had this conversation with your dad a couple years ago.
We were sitting in Bedminster.
I said, you know, sir, What this all comes down to is you showed up in January of 2017, and as the duly elected President of the United States, and essentially declared, I'm the one who decides.
I'm the one who got elected by the American people, I decide a lot of the domestic and foreign policy, and the administrative state, and the Democrats, quite frankly a lot of establishment Republicans, all bolstered by the corporate propaganda said, no, we don't think you decide, we think we decide.
And for having the temerity to say, I reject the premise that the unelected bureaucrats are the ones who set policy, that as the duly elected representative of the American people, I decide you were treated as a traitor to your country.
And I think that's the real problem, Don.
What we're seeing now, and I tell people all the time, Russiagate, Ukrainian quid pro quo, lawfare, all of these things that are taking place between your dad and them over the last 10 years, really boils down to two things.
Who decides and who governs?
And it's really Constitutional Republic versus Administrative State.
That's what you're seeing play out.
Cut everything else away.
Those are the fundamental issues at stake right now.
Oh, I think without question.
I mean, you know, when I used to have that conversation with him, and I think when it was starting, I'm like, he's like, no, I told these guys to do X, Y, Z, and man, they're just slow.
And at first he was like, he's just maybe, hey, they're government bureaucrats.
Most of them, honestly, most of the people in government, not that smart.
They're just good at being bureaucrats.
It's sort of like Fauci.
He was never a great doctor, but he was better at snaking others.
He knew how to play that game better.
So you can maintain power.
You don't actually have to be that talented.
You just have to have a sort of level of viciousness.
Uh, and so, you know, I think at first we were like, maybe they're just slow.
Like, we're used to the real world where like, you know, if I work for him and he tells me to do something, if it's not done in 10 minutes or however long, you know, faster than it's supposed to take to get the task done, if it's not done, he's calling me like, what's going on?
Why is it taking so long?
I think in Washington for a while, it was just like, well, maybe they're just slower.
And then, you know, there's, you know, it's not, they intentionally slow played it or they, Forgot to handle it, you know, and, you know, hopefully we just run out the clock.
And I think that's what scares them about a second term.
Yeah, no, that's one of their favorite tactics, but this is the whole point.
And the reason, one of the reasons I wanted to write the book, not only to show people really what took place over the last 10 years, it's really kind of this clash of governing philosophies that's been building for a while.
But Don, that was the whole point from day one with this administrative state.
Because progressives, first of all, progressives hate the Constitution.
They really do.
They hate the moral and political authority of the U.S.
Constitution.
They hate the republic that came out of it, especially the diffusion of power, the separation of powers.
But more importantly, what they put in place, in place of the constitutional republic, an administrative state, They were only interested in one separation, and that was separating out the administrative state with its unelected bureaucrats from any political accountability, so much to the point that they wanted those unelected bureaucrats to be the decision makers, to be the ones governing.
That was the point the whole time with them.
And so people show up and go, Yeah.
You're supposed to be working in a government of, by, and for the people.
The duly elected representative of the American people has a vision that he
clearly laid out on domestic and foreign policy, like, no, no, we decide.
And that's, but that's the point.
That's how it's always been.
And it took the great outsider, Donald J.
Trump, to show up and go, wait a minute.
Because, Don, a lot of presidents, I would say every president since Reagan, including George H.W.
Bush and George W. Bush, accepted the premise that this was legitimate.
And their only problem with it was that they weren't running it.
And your dad shows up and goes, no, I reject the premise.
This has nothing to do with the Republic.
It has nothing to do with representative democracy.
And they're like, you're a traitor to your country.
What?
What are we doing here?
I think you're a traitor to our country, guys.
You're the one that are running roughshod about our founding principles, but you're right.
He didn't just accept that.
They couldn't handle it.
The real problem I have with all of it, and again, as someone who I mean, in any reasonable terms, was the number two target of Russia, Russia, Russia.
You know, right?
I understand.
I will say I understand.
I'm not the upstanding citizen that Hunter Biden is, but if I took one penny from Russia or China, it would be a problem.
Not billions and not from oligarchs and sex trafficking money and this money.
You know, again, it's just different.
I'm fine with that.
I'm willing to fight that battle.
That's OK.
Right.
But with him, it was just it's amazing how so many accepted.
So I always say This was actually long gone.
What we believed America to be was long gone way before my father.
It was just the visceral reaction to him not just accepting that the president himself in the United States, the duly elected president, is just a puppet within a far greater unelected bureaucracy.
Yes.
Yes.
That was enough to spur all of that.
If he just went along with it, like they probably let it, leave him alone and fine.
You can do a couple of things here on trade.
You can do a couple of, you know, just, you know, as long as you don't let us, you know,
make us stop our never-ending wars, where we all have our board seat at Raytheon
so we can send missiles into countries for God knows what reason, you know, everything will be
fine.
And so I say today, when people are like, why do you do what you do?
It's like, well, cause I'm fighting to create America I always believed existed, but it hasn't,
at least in half a century, probably longer.
It's not to preserve an America that I know and love.
That was missing.
And I think he just filled in a lot of those blanks as to exactly what's happened.
Yeah, no, I make the point that .
What your dad is trying to do is restore.
It's a restoration process.
Like, hey, we'd like to have a republic restored.
We'd like to have a representative democracy restored.
We'd like to have all the rights of the American people restored.
And he believes, and again, call me crazy because of our founding principle, That in a government of, by and for the people, the people give to their duly elected representatives, they make them the stewards of the power and money given to them by the American people, to create a government that every day, Don, is supposed to be advancing and protecting the interests of the American people, and that the American people, another shocking thing that your dad has proposed,
That the American people should be first and last in all things.
Trade, immigration, all of these things.
And permanent DC, the administrative state, said, huh?
That's not how it works.
It hasn't worked that way for decades.
What are you talking about?
And your dad is trying to communicate to the American people, I actually believe that this is supposed to be a government of, by, and for the people.
And we lost that vision decades and decades ago.
So, Ned, what's the deal with the devil that the media in Washington, D.C.
and in general are so complicit in these scandals?
Meaning, if you were an enterprising journalist and you just exposed some of these things, if you just went after it, Man, that's the stuff that Pulitzers are made of.
Instead, they get Pulitzers for literally lying about Russia, Russia, Russia.
They get wonderful reporting.
I go, how do you maintain that Pulitzer Prize when it's been all disproven?
Like, was the writing that good?
I mean, I guess they're writing fiction, so, you know, it's a problem.
But, you know, from the soft coverage of Kamala Harris, from blaming my father for his own assassination, you know, Some of these things are stretches, but how does all of that relate to the themes in American Leviathan?
Because I think, you know, the two feed off of each other, and yet, again, as a guy that just understands, like, you know, opportunities in markets, as a business guy, I'm like, you'd think there'd be a great opportunity taking some of that on and being, like, the only person in thousands catering to people who actually want to know what's going on in their country.
Not interested in that because, well, first of all, this feels like a new thing that has happened with the corporate propagandists.
I write in the book on, I'm starting to really think that Watergate and Russiakate are two sides of the same coin.
In which Nixon ran on his re-election campaign was about, we're going to break apart the administrative state, resounding electoral college victory, and then the next thing you know, a deep state surveillance state official is meeting with two corporate propagandists in a parking garage to spin a narrative to bring down the duly elected president of the United States who they feel is an existential threat to their way of life.
Yeah.
Fast forward to Russiagate, same thing.
Why are they not being honest with the American people?
Because that's the point of a free press.
Obviously, First Amendment, a free press, supposed to be honest to provide transparency to the American people for them to make better decisions.
Not happening at all.
Why are they doing this?
Well, first of all, they adhere to the same worldview as the administrative state actors.
Big tech, big governments, the corporate propagandists, big press, they all went to the same indoctrination centers of higher learning.
They adhere to the same worldview that somehow your betters, the educated elite, are the ones that should be making the decisions.
We've already made these decisions for you, you dirty little peasants.
You need to know what's best for you, and if you don't accept it, And they see an existential threat like your dad.
It is a high swarm, whether it's from government or the corporate propagandists or big tech.
This is an existential threat to the status quo that we have power in.
And you're talking about returning basically power to the people.
Yeah.
know. So I think part of it's just they're on the same page with everybody and they view themselves
as a protection against anybody that might be seen as a threat. I view the DOJ and the FBI that way,
just to be clear. I view them as a perpetratory guard of the administrative state.
I stopped giving them a pass a long time ago when they started electing Amish farmers,
arresting Amish farmers for selling unpasteurized milk. But literally every person that's either
tried to shoot up my father or shot up a crowd or whatever it is, you know, has been on their radar.
But, you know, they check a couple of woke boxes so we can't actually do something about it.
I mean, uh, you know, I always, you know, sort of, I used to give this sort of the pass to the door kickers because I feel like so many of them are sort of left behind.
But like, there comes a point where I'm like, the door kickers, like, Hey guys, when you watch this stuff being so bastardized, when you're weaponized against your, like, somebody, like, I get it.
It's your job, it's your pension, like, eventually someone has to come up and speak out.
A couple whistleblowers do that.
They get sent up to, like, you know, to Guam.
No one stands up for them.
You know, every, every whistleblower that was against Donald Trump was like, you know, the holy deity, they were beyond reproach.
And yet, you know, a whistleblower that points out all of these discriminatory things,
the flagrant violations of our rights and constitutions, it's like, you're fired.
It's like, well, you can't do that.
It's like, yeah, we can, because we can.
And it doesn't matter if it doesn't follow the rules, we can bend the rules to our wishes.
But your Nixon example was the best one, because, you know, before I became sort of a student
of this stuff, it was the same thing.
It was like, well, Richard Nixon, how are you?
Oh, he was a, like, you go back, it was like, wow, every decision, like, he was one of our best presidents,
probably, in existence.
Like, he was the most popular, had some of the most incredible victories,
took on so many of the things that I think my father's trying to take on right now, and yet.
You know, in the lens of, like, I was not really born, you know, I was barely alive or cognizant, even what I know, even if someone who's sort of, let's call it, been really red-pilled, it was like, I didn't know until, like, I went to the Nixon Library, because I had a book event, I went there, I was like, he did that?
Like, wait a minute, I thought that was this guy!
He did that?
He was a really impressive guy, like an amazing president.
He got screwed by that deep state.
It's the same playbook.
It is, and in researching this book and writing this book, I have come to the conclusion, Don, we should probably re-examine a lot of our 20th century U.S.
government history, political history, on a whole host of fronts, because the progressive propagandists through the last century have really manipulated, I think,
a lot of things in regards to the education system.
Obviously, the corporate propagandists in presenting a narrative to the American people
might not actually have anything to do with the truth.
But back to the DOJ and the FBI.
Our founders did not trust human nature.
They didn't trust themselves.
So that's why they wanted the diffusion and separation of powers.
What happens when progressives put their administrative state in place is you have unelected, consolidated power with unaccountable bureaucrats doing the governing at a certain point.
Because we do often what we can, not what we should as human beings.
It tends to become authoritarian.
You will do what I say.
You will submit.
And if you don't, there'll be consequences.
And this is the problem that I have right now, among many, with the administrative state of, if you're unelected, there's no accountability.
You've consolidated all this power.
We've got a real problem in this country.
And I say this in all seriousness.
I think the greatest existential threat To our freedom in the immediate, it's not Russia, it's not China, it is an out-of-control administrative state, the American Leviathan, that has decided, we are making the decisions, we know what's best for you, because the state is salvation.
One more thing I want to make on this point.
In progressives' thinking, they thought the administrative state was going to be salvation for all of society and for mankind.
If the state is salvation, The state should be in every aspect of your life.
So people go, why is government continue to grow?
Why is it out of control?
That's the point.
They don't believe in God.
That's their new deity.
It evolves.
It goes from Greta Thunberg to Fauci as Lord priest of COVID to Zelensky as the priest of Ukraine for some reason.
It is their religion.
It's built into their DNA, the administrative state of its salvation.
Growth is perpetual, because why would you ever want to limit salvation?
And at the same time, they truly did believe, and it's a warped worldview, they would lead to the perfection of mankind, that we'd somehow reach some state of deification in the here and now.
You read the writings of these progressives, you think they're deluded madmen, but here we are.
And I would argue, and I think I've seen enough empirical evidence over the last decade, That we're actually living out the dream of the progressives with their administrative state, with the unelected bureaucrats thinking they're deciding, and not a truly representative democracy in a constitutional republic.
And one of the reasons I wanted to write this book, too, because the publisher said, hey, we're going to do a hardback in January of 25.
Like, that's not soon enough.
I prefer paperback now.
Because I think one of the key issues in the 2024 elections, Don, is what are we actually going to do with this administrative state if and when, hopefully praying when, your dad takes office again January of 2025 as the head of the executive branch where most of the administrative state resides.
He begins a plan to dismantle and devolve the administrative state and return power back to the people.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, so, it's all part of that, right?
The media, they rush to sort of memory hole all the attacks against conservatives.
I have a feeling if someone tried killing Biden, or if they tried killing even Barack Obama, who's no longer a president, it wouldn't be out of the news in three days.
I mean, so many Americans forget that Steve Scalise was shot by a radical leftist Bernie Sanders supporter.
Rand Paul was attacked.
And again, both by deranged left-wing lunatics.
The media doesn't want to talk about that violence coming from the left wing, just like they don't want to talk about violence coming from people of the trans community.
And you see the shootings, you see the mass killings, and I'm like, again, as a population that makes up like 0.02% of the world, I'm like, I don't know, I'd say it's the most radical, most violent per capita movement out there.
Are they just complicit with all of these things?
Yes!
Yeah, yeah, no.
Again, it goes back to holding on to power, similar worldviews, anything they view as a threat, we will attack.
No, and again, the First Amendment, free and honest press to provide transparency for the American people to make better decisions in regards to who's doing the right things and governing us, everything has been so warped and twisted over the last hundred years that it's hard to see that our founders would envision This as the press that they were thinking about back in 1787 as they're putting together a constitutional republic.
So, you know, in the last chapter, I deal with reform items that a powerful executive with the political courage, like your dad, as head of the executive branch can put into place.
And I also talk about the press and some of the things that I think need to be done to reform what is going on currently with our corporate propaganda is because none of this, in my mind, is working like the founders thought it should.
Yeah, and again, that's one of those tough subjects, right?
Because I mean, I'm sort of a free speech absolutist.
It doesn't mean there's not consequences to those free speech.
And maybe that's what this is.
If you're functioning as a journalist, but you're effectively lying and putting your weight on the scale, is that really free speech?
Or do you have to just disclose that you're doing these things?
The DNC, I remember during the DNC, they're paying all these kids on TikTok to say that they're for Kamala Harris.
They probably couldn't pick Kamala Harris out of a lineup.
I'm saying, well, they're paying them, but they don't have to disclose that.
But if I do a paid ad campaign for a corporation and I just don't disclose that I'm getting paid, they fine Kim Kardashian millions of dollars for doing that.
And yet, hey, if it's for our political benefit, we're going to just let these rules slide.
Why should it be any different?
I think one of the great lies that has been told to the American people that somehow the media are purely objective, we're just trying to communicate the truth to the American people.
It used to be back in the day that newspapers would be known as a Republican newspaper or a Democrat newspaper.
There was no question what a newspaper was and what they were trying to communicate.
It'd be really nice in some ways if we got back to that, Don, where we could just say, okay, that's the Democrat newspaper, like the New York Times.
Yeah.
You know, that's the Republican newspaper.
Just be open and honest.
And just see where people really fell.
Like I see ABC News, the wonderfully and unbiased moderators of the last debate, and they got
100% positive Kamala Harris coverage since she became the presumptive nominee and 93%
negative for my father.
And I'm saying, you know, I don't recall any journalist being fans of Kamala Harris prior
to her being like, well, now she could be president.
So we got to come in and just go to bat for her.
I mean, she was widely known as the most radical leftist in the United States Senate.
That was by every organization out there.
Most thought she was rather incompetent.
We're very vocal about that.
Many said, you know, a lot worse than all of that.
And yet then she became the guy that's taken on Trump.
And it's all right.
Well, now Now, her political journey started three weeks ago.
We have no idea what she's ever thought about any issue, despite years in politics.
No failures, despite being an attorney general, despite being in the Senate for years, despite all of these things, despite being, you know, the borders are.
Like, she has no failures.
She gets a clean slate to start from.
She's going to be the moderate.
She's going to be moderate.
Very moderate.
I mean, is anyone that stupid anymore, though?
I see the Joy Blitzkrieg going kaput.
You can see it in the numbers, Don?
No, I mean, I think there's two polls and I, listen, I love a good poll, but polls are kind of snapshots of that might or might not be true in the future.
I want to talk about the real numbers that I pay attention to, but let's just say, let's look at these numbers.
Quinnipiac, Joe Biden up September of 2020 by 10 points over your dad.
Your dad's up one now over Kamal.
11-point change in that same poll number.
And Quinnipiac is not a favorable Republican poll, so that should be pretty earth-shattering to a lot of people.
Yeah, there's no joy.
When I go to McDonald's and I have my 10-year-old at the time and my 14-year-old, and it was $48 for me and two kids.
You know what, there's not joy in that.
People don't have joy.
If I have sticker shock at McDonald's, it's a problem for the rest of the country.
I promise you.
Well, think about the Gallup poll.
The electorate, in their mind, is now plus-three Republican.
I can't remember the last time it was that way.
It's been decades.
So, I think people are starting to go, well, first of all, can I just say, I think some people are watching one debate, and the Normies and Independents were watching another debate with the ABC, and again, ABC totally rigged, moderated.
I kind of wish your dad had just said to Muir and the gal, Davis, why don't you guys just get up from behind there and go stand behind the podium with Kamala?
Because that's reality.
That would be an honest debate.
You're not being objective.
But I think the normies and independents were watching that debate, and you can see it reflected the numbers.
They heard what they wanted to, and you saw 6 out of 10 undecideds, 60% going towards your dad, not Kamala, because she has no answers.
She has no solutions.
And they know that life under your dad was much better for four years.
And I think that reality is kicking in.
So corporate propaganda is going to try and prop up this empty suit.
They're going to try and somewhat hide the ball.
I mean, the Stephanie ruled.
That wasn't even an interview.
Oh, it's brutal.
It was embarrassing.
This woman doesn't know anything.
And then what she's doing is she's adapting all of our policies and being like, I'm going to do this.
It's contrary to everything she's ever done, right?
She wants to do an assault weapons ban, but I'm not against guns.
She wanted to do mandatory.
Mandatory.
The key word in this is mandatory buyback programs for guns.
That's not someone that's pro-gun if she won't get fact-checked.
You saw what they did with fracking and American Energy the last time around.
The Democrat primary stage, everyone raises their hand.
Then they lie to the American public during the private.
No, we would never do that.
Then on day one, they do Keystone Pipeline.
They'll tell you whatever you want to hear.
I mean, I heard today or this week, I guess, that she came out.
Now she's going to be in favor of crypto.
I would pay like a billion dollars to watch her explain like crypto and blockchain technology.
Like I would actually pay good money to let her debate my 15 year old son on the topic because she doesn't know.
She's just like, wow, that's a block of people we should probably cater to.
Like, does anyone in crypto space in any of that like believe that like the most regulatory human being
in the history of the potential presidency is gonna be good for crypto?
Like no way, they'd never give up that kind of control.
It's why they haven't yet.
Yeah, no, and I would argue too, part of the administrative state,
despite this, in addition to the surveillance state, the deep state, the regulatory state,
which is part of the administrative state is crushing our economic freedom.
And I think it's a national security threat.
But going back to, they can't be honest about their issues.
Do you really want Kamala sitting on national television talking about her plans for price control, Soviet-style price control policies?
Well, Matt, I, too, had a nice lawn growing up.
I tried this with Jesse Watters.
That can't be your answer to every question that you don't give an answer to.
That's all you got?
Come up with another one!
I tried this with Jesse Watters last week.
I can guarantee you I've mowed more lawns than Kamala Harris.
I can assure you of that, okay?
And I understand what my last name is.
Because my father made me do those jobs because we build stuff.
It's nuts.
I tried it with Jesse Waters last week.
I'm not sure he was fully amused when he asked me a question.
I said, I, too, was raised in the middle class, Jesse.
I have neighbors who love their lawns, and I have hopes and dreams and aspirations.
I went back and looked at the video.
You can kind of see his planes look really nice.
No, but back to how are we going to prevent these people from gaining power, abusing the administrative state even more, because then they'd be simpatico.
So back to the real numbers, and this to me is, I mean, I love commentating, I love writing books, my real job We're doing absentee ballot chase and early voting projects in four key states.
And I have been beating the drum on this.
We'll probably have about 1,500 people in Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, North Carolina.
People have asked, give us a positive message, Ned.
How do you think it's going to go?
I'm like, I love a good poll number.
Like I said, I think those are great numbers.
The real numbers are, what is your ballot universe in a given battleground state?
And what is the partisan registration advantage?
They're looking really good, those numbers, Don, in Arizona, Pennsylvania, all these different places.
Yeah.
And so people have asked, how are you going to change this?
Well, you have to have political power first.
Politics is policy.
Yeah.
We have to gain political power.
The next 40 days are all about your dad winning, hopefully getting the Senate and the House with people that will actually support him.
Yeah, like we need 54 Senate, not 51, because we have too many weaklings in the Senate that, you know, With senators like, let's say, Mitt Romney and some other senators from actually very conservative states that are rhino at best, it's amazing.
It's always the most conservative state that has the weakest senators.
It's crazy to me, but, you know, I guess the Democrats vote for the weak ones because they realize they're never going to get a Democrat, so you get stuck with a squish.
Exactly.
No, so it becomes one of those things.
How are we going to make change happen?
How are we going to actually get back to this head of the executive branch, your dad, in the White House?
Step one.
Step two, Supreme Court actually stepping up.
They did this this summer.
They said, you know what?
Chevron deference, we're not doing that anymore.
We're not going to let the SEC, the Security and Exchange Commission, have their private administrative law tribunals, unconstitutional, annihilates the Seventh Amendment.
So you're seeing cracks in the foundation of the administrative state.
But I think it's the American people.
I think, when I talk with the American people at American Majority Trainings, that we do constantly everywhere, they're trying to figure out, what is going on?
What is actually happening in D.C.
in this conflict?
Why is there such a visceral hatred of Donald Trump?
And I explain a little bit of what we've discussed, but I'm like, you can only bring about change if you guys actually engage.
And I'm not talking about- 100%.
Posting on Twitter, that's great, or X now, or Facebook, great.
Do you have a ballot?
If you're not gonna vote by mail, are you gonna vote first day, early voting starts?
Because, and then on top of that, I love, it's the Trump 47, get 10 people, get them to the polls, get them to have a plan.
And the fact that, the thing I love about what your dad is doing right now, and I mean this in all sincerity, he realizes the rules of the game.
And the rules of the game are, you know what, we do have absentee ballot.
Uh, voting.
We do have 50 days of early voting.
I'd love to have voter ID, same-day voting, paper ballots.
100%!
Like, everything logical that you see literally even in, like, socialist countries across Europe.
100%!
But, like, we have to recognize, like, they have set the rules.
Like, they, they are in charge.
These are, it's a federalist system.
They're done in the states.
The states that matter are controlled by Democrat legislatures.
Like, we have to play on the chessboard that they have set up.
We have to win there to actually effectuate change.
Because again, this stuff didn't happen overnight.
It's been years we sat there indifferent.
We saw, I mean, Congress last week, they passed a spending bill,
you know, that lasts until December 20th.
So that there's just enough time, just enough time for Joe Biden to pass another big thing
for a trillion dollars to give to, you know, a big omnibus before Christmas
that they can just stick on Trump.
We can keep the inflation going because they're going to do it.
But that's what they're doing.
I mean, they're playing a game.
And many Republicans are complicit in this.
This to me is so first of all, I think too many American people have been asleep in the light.
Yeah.
I think too many Republicans, as you're saying, in these red states have have been not as engaged in a primary vote as they should be.
A party is what people say it is, Don, and the people who say what it is are those that show up and win primaries and those that show up at conventions.
I would love to say that I came up with that quote myself.
In fact, I'm quoting a communist from the 1970s who said the communists should actually join the Democratic Party.
That's what we need to have the mindset of changing the Republican Party to the essence of America first.
But the only way you do that is win primaries, show book conventions.
And then Donald J. Trump might actually have a majority America first in the Senate, might have a majority America first in the House.
Until he gets those, he's going to have to fight alone for the most part.
But as an executive, as head of the executive branch, he could do a lot of damage.
But I would really like, Don, to have a U.S.
House.
That actually decides we have the purse strings.
We're going to starve the beast.
This is one of my biggest frustrations.
Well, we just got to, we got to keep funding it.
I think it would be immoral to not fund this government.
That's the problem.
They're weaklings.
People are like, Don, like, how are you willing to fight?
I'm like, it's not that hard, man.
Like just like, I don't care.
Like when, you know, people like the New York times is doing a negative article on you.
They're like, well, What do you think?
I didn't even read it.
I could care less.
If they're writing a negative article about me, it means I'm over the target.
I don't care.
These guys, it's just an easy existence if you're a reliably...
Weak voter.
You know, you can be like 90% conservative in DC and you can get invited to a cool person party as long as when it actually matters.
That one time they really want it and it really matters to your people as long as you're willing to fold for whatever reason.
It's like, you can be conservative in DC.
It's not that hard.
To have like balls all the time, that's hard.
And that's why there's so few of them.
And the problem with most members of Congress is that they are experts in self-preservation.
Yeah.
This is the pinnacle of their career, Don.
That's why they'll never get term limits, because this is... I had that conversation... This is what they've always envisioned.
...with Matt Gaetz.
You know, some guy gets into Congress, and, you know, he was a legislator, not getting paid.
He showed up to PTK meetings for years.
All of a sudden, you know, like, what was the Eddie Murphy movie?
You know, the name you know.
He gets into Congress, and he's like...
Wow, like, someone's kissing my ass.
Like, I get to be on TV.
I have no business being here, but I am never leaving.
I'm never going to risk it.
I'm never leaving.
So they do what it takes to stay, not what their people actually want.
And this is one of the other reasons that, again, just to kind of go back to some of the administrative state and everything that's wrong with D.C.
right now, the Article 1 legislative branch decided years ago, and I kind of pinpointed the book, late
1960s, early 70s, we're not going to really govern anymore, we're not going
to legislate, because we might actually have to make hard decisions that might endanger our re-election.
So we're going to pass these four or five thousand page bills, we're going to kind of
frame it out, and then we're not going to read it because that's not really the point.
We're going to send it to the unelected bureaucrats in the Article 2 branch, and with their statutes and regulations, they're going to put a fine point on it and do the actual governing.
It allows the elected officials to kind of duck the hard choices.
Then they can go back and tell their voters, You know, I tried, but it's that guy at the EPA or FDA or whatever department agency that really did that.
I'm gonna go, but you need to re-elect me so I can go back to D.C.
and fight for you on your behalf against these terrible regulations as they pass the bill, as they continue to fund them.
And again, it all comes back to, they love being in D.C., they love self-preservation, they love the whole lifestyle, and it is the pinnacle of their career, and they want to come back every two years or six years.
You're 100% right.
Ned, where can people find, obviously, American Leviathan, your book, that's great.
Where can they also find out about the programs you're doing in some of those four critical states?
Because again, RNC is not doing this.
It's like there are organizations that are backfilling.
I know Turning Point's doing that in Arizona and Wisconsin.
There's other organizations.
Sean Parnell in Pennsylvania and a couple others.
Obviously, Scott Pressler.
So we've broken out of that traditional mold of having Another somewhat slow and inefficient Leviathan actually making these moves and having it be done by nimble parties in those places who understand that backyard.
So that's a big deal.
Let us know how they can find that as well because that's important.
Yeah, AmericanMajorityAction.com is our website.
We've got permanent staff and then a ton of contractors in Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, North Carolina.
People can email us for information.
Do you want to become involved?
Because I've also gotten the point, Don, I've been doing this for 14 years in the field with American Majority Action.
We pay people, right?
We pay them to do doors, phones, texts, all that.
Data-driven, right?
Who has a ballot?
Who needs to go vote early?
And the whole point, the key point in this absentee ballot chase, you got to get to 80% plus.
of Republican or Republican-leaning independent ballots, and that's kind of a magic mark.
And my goal with this, in these battleground states, we know it's coming down to seven states,
I'm in four of them, if your dad can either be narrowly behind or in the lead in the ABEV vote
coming into election day, Republicans traditionally crush Democrats on election day.
If the narrative becomes that Donald Trump is in the lead and the data shows it in that ABEV,
he will crush them on election day, he will be re-elected to the White House, and we can begin
this restoration of a republic.
And the last thing I'll say is this, we have to restore the republic, but the first step, he talks about draining the swamp, your dad does.
The foundation of the swamp is the state.
If you break the state, you will drain the swamp, and you'll give us a shot to restore the republic.
I love it.
Ned, Ryan, thank you so much for joining us.
We really appreciate it.
Thanks, Don.
Guys, check out American Leviathan.
Look at the other stuff Ned's doing.
Very solid Twitter game as well.
Shit talking to a level, almost a Trump-like level, so I gotta give credit where it's due.
Thank you.
Check him out there.
We'll see you soon, man.
Be well.
Great.
I appreciate it.
Thanks, Don.
Be good.
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Here's the trailer.
Check it out.
Somebody has to help this country.
And if they don't, the country and the world are in big trouble.
Someone's got to overturn the tables in the temple.
Trump jumping into the presidential race.
She's a bit worried.
of the apprentice guy?
You know the feeling of power?
Could you handle it or would it devour?
Power.
They fear that power.
that power.
You didn't do an insurrection.
Had you called for one, there would have been one.
And there would be one if you called for one now.
I'm not sure I want that power.
I want the power just to make the country better.
America first!
And that scares them.
A lot about Donald Trump scares them.
Let's look at everything.
Campaign, his family.
Let's get foreign eyes on him.
We have one target.
You know who he is.
Going after their companies, their families.
That is a dictator.
It's a very dangerous time for our country.
The goal is to put him in jail because they're so afraid of his voice.
I am your voice!
We'll bury him so deep in legal, he'll bankrupt them.
Broke, got him.
In jail right before the election.
That's harsh for being that guy, but isn't that election interference?
It's not interference if we do it.
We just want a free and fair election.
Sounds expensive.
Ballots ain't cheap.
Wait, wait, wait.
Did you actually say the word buy the ballots?
We were able to purchase 10,000 ballots.
That's terrifying.
They cheat in many different ways.
That's all they're good at.
Ready to save democracy?
We need to stop him permanently.
And that person will be risking his life.
Too bad it's not the 60s, right?
It's the way you survived.
I said, get me up.
Trump has beaten back every attack against him.
He's like the damn Terminator.
We're gonna fix our borders, and we're gonna fix our elections.
We're gonna win.
Vindicating Trump.
The best is yet to come.
Only in theaters September 27th.
Guys, the film is in theaters now.
You can go to VindicatingTrump.com to learn more, to find out where you can see it.
Bring your friends, bring your loved ones, bring an Independent or even a Democrat who's not totally insane.
Bring them all so we can fight back and make sure that people understand exactly what is at stake this election.
Well guys, joining me now, great friend, director and producer of the new film, Vindicating Trump, Dinesh D'Souza.
Dinesh, thank you for being here.
You've been a real leading voice in exposing so much of the major corruption inside of our own government.
I mean, you did that with 2,000 mules.
Talk about Vindicating Trump.
Tell us the next chapter in documenting this corruption.
Well, the purpose of the film is to make the full-blown case for Trump, for your dad.
And because this is a case that needs to be made even to, I would call it, wavering Republicans.
You know, sometimes I'll hear these Republicans, and it's not just the Never Trumpers.
They'll go, well, you know, I don't like the guy, but I like his policies.
I've never heard this, Dinesh.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I'm not totally surprised that they hold back a little in saying it to you, but here's what I'm getting at.
These are people who somehow think that they know better than Trump.
They feel like they want to remake Trump.
They want to rehabilitate your dad.
And what I want to make the case for is that, no, Your dad, Trump, comes with a package of qualities that is peculiarly suited to the crisis and the challenges we face today.
Yes, you can make an argument that at some other time in American history, he's not the perfect guy, but for now, I think he's not just the perfect guy, but the only guy, and the film, and there's an accompanying book to come of the same title, makes the case for Trump without any kind of waffling or hesitation.
Yeah, you don't have to follow him on Truth Social.
You don't have to like everything that he says.
What you do have to recognize is...
We were safer under Trump.
We went from a time of peace to a time of war and four years under the stupid Harris-Biden regime.
We went from a time of prosperity to essentially poverty.
When were you better off?
When was the world in a better trajectory?
You may not love Trump, but maybe that personality is what kept dictators in check.
Maybe that's what stopped Putin from invading his neighbors.
Maybe that's what stopped radical terrorist groups from doing what they're doing in the Middle East.
You know, just maybe.
Maybe they understood and saw the resolve that we all witnessed on, you know, July 13th, coming back and fighting after getting shot in the face.
And they were like, you know what, that guy's kind of tough.
He proved it to the rest of the world, if there were any doubters, but...
Maybe you need that level of attitude.
Maybe we don't live in a world that, you know, everyone views through rose-colored glasses because it's just not realistic.
We'd love that to be the case, but, you know, we can't live in fantasy land.
You know, people would say sometimes of General Grant during the Civil War that, you know, this guy cusses a lot, he's a heavy drinker.
The point to make is that those qualities are part of a package that made Grant this kind of a pugnacious, never give up, always be moving forward.
An effective fighter on the battlefield.
And I think the same is true with Donald Trump.
This is a guy who has the supreme virtue of courage.
Now, we saw it obviously with the assassination attempts.
I mean, no other person that I can think of, not just in America, in the world, would have responded like your dad, which is, hey, number one, I'm a little annoyed that I'm being interrupted in my golf game.
I was about to make an amazing shot.
Number two, would have posted on social media zero for two.
We all know about your dad's instinctive bravery in the first assassination attempt, but I'd go beyond that.
I think any other Republican facing two criminal charges, let alone 91, would have exited the field, would be never heard from again.
And it's not just that your dad endures all this.
He forges forward.
I mean, he has such a rope-a-dope that he's managed somehow to frustrate multiple cases going on at the same time.
So he has what Aristotle calls the supreme virtue of bravery, which Aristotle says is the number one virtue.
It's the number one political virtue for sure, but it's the number one virtue in general because it gives you the strength to do all the other virtues.
Yeah, I think I saw it on Twitter or Truth Social this week.
Someone said Trump's superpower is that he has the ability to make his enemies look like morons.
You know, even in their own words, meaning they just can't react to them, that they look insane.
And you see Kamala Harris talking about Her economic plans, and can't answer a simple question, has no idea.
She's the candidate of change, but she's had four years to change, and every change has been for the worse.
It's sort of interesting, but yes, that takes guts, because there's consequences to being vocal.
There's consequences to speaking out against that machine.
The other thing about your dad, and you know this better than anyone else, but those of us who have had a glimpse of your dad up close know that he has personal qualities that very interestingly have not been seen by many people.
And I think because your dad is a man's man, he's sometimes a little reluctant to show those qualities.
So when I did the one-on-one with your dad, you know, 45 minutes, I wanted to sit really close up to him because I wanted to draw an aspect out of him that I think is very attractive.
That people need to see but that your dad in some ways doesn't put on the public stage.
I think that's one of the real strengths of this film is it kind of shows the tumblers of your dad's mind working and it gives you a little bit of a window into your dad's soul.
I'm not trying to give you a kind of a different picture of Trump.
I'm just trying to round out the picture so people can see him in a sense as a whole.
Yeah, you're 100% right.
I actually say this.
I don't want to get in trouble.
I'll get a call from him later on tonight after this airs.
But I always say his biggest political liability is actually that he has a ton of empathy.
He cares for people.
He does stuff for them.
He pays for his surgery or this or whatever it may be.
He does this all the time.
There's a 40-year track record of it.
You hear the stories pop up every once in a while.
There were a couple that popped up last week after the Long Island rally.
And I'm like, I didn't even know that.
And it changed people's lives forever.
But when I'm like, why don't you talk about it?
No, no, no.
Yeah, I gotta go deal with Putin next week.
I can't have him think I'm soft.
I'm like, no, we gotta win suburban housewives.
You actually do all of this stuff.
You're not creating a fake story.
Kamala Harris worked at McDonald's.
There's never a pay stub.
There's not a photo.
There's no one that's worked with her for it, but she'll just say it.
You know, there are people that are out there saying you're doing these things and you won't even amplify it.
So it's, you know, I call it a political weakness because I think you need some of that.
People want to see some of that.
But he's like, no, man, we're on the brink of World War III.
I got to be an animal going into this thing.
And so it's funny that you notice that.
We have in this movie some really entertaining recreations because we have the DNC or the Democratic National Committee war room.
We have a media war room.
We show you what goes on inside the intelligence agencies.
And this is important because, you know, you and I might wonder, let's just say your dad is going through the New York, you know, 34 felony convictions.
Like, how is that received in the newsrooms of the New York Times?
So those guys just watch it with equanimity and go, We need to do objective coverage of that event.
Or do they jump up and cheer, high-five each other?
We did it, man!
Good work!
What does that look like?
What does that feel like?
The cool thing about a movie is you can show people those sorts of things.
And then, of course, there's an element in the film, a section called the ballot makers.
And I texted you about that this morning.
This is a very creepy part of the film because we're exploring vulnerabilities in our election system, and it turns out we do not protect our ballots the way that we protect, for example, our $20 or $100 bills.
Yeah, no, you were tweeting some of that about it, and it never ceases to amaze me.
But how did the whole film come together?
How did you put this together?
I obviously understand what you're trying to do, but who else may we hear from that wouldn't be the usual suspects, etc.? ?
Well, the main interview in the film is with your dad.
I did 45 minutes with your dad.
There's probably 20 to 25 minutes in the movie.
I interviewed Laura Trump both about the personal side of Donald Trump, but also about election integrity because of her position as co-chair of the RNC.
And I have a fairly detailed discussion with Alina Haba focusing on the legal cases, because the film is sort of divided into, well, we call it actually multiple assassinations.
Character assassination, number one.
Political assassination, which is the Russia collusion, trying to, the bogus attempt to frame your dad.
Business assassination?
Yeah, assassination on his wealth and his portfolio.
Then the legal assassinations, because if you try to lock a guy up for life, that's in a sense giving him a sort of death penalty.
And finally, the actual assassination attempts.
And so the film moves very rapidly.
I think you know from my other work, we try to make these films in a cinematic way.
They're perfect for the theater.
They're entertaining, but they're also informative and very moving.
And so I'm really delighted You know, right after COVID, even with 2,000 mules, I couldn't put it in the theater in the normal way.
I did theater buyouts.
But now this film is opening in 850 theaters, multiple showings a day, this weekend, and VindicatingTrump.com is the website.
If you go there, you can put in your zip code or your city, your town, boom, the theaters will come up.
So see it this weekend, because seeing a film in the opening weekend is like putting rocket fuel into the film.
It magnifies the film and goes into more theaters.
And, you know, I think, Don, these films are a way of doing an end run around the media.
I'm not the only guy making them these days, which I'm happy to say, but I think I make them as well, if not better than anyone else.
And this is a film to be seen this weekend, if you can possibly go with family and friends.
So, Dinesh, in all of your movies, you really do a great job of sort of laying out the left's attack on our, really, our most vital and perhaps our most vulnerable institutions, even if they shouldn't be vulnerable, but from the justice system to election offices to everywhere, you know, in between.
What is it about the America First movement that has these corrupt, broken, bad actors Pressing the panic button in such a way.
I mean, again, I don't think there's an objective metric where we're better off now than we were four years ago.
Why not say, hey, let Trump get it back to normal, you know, they can get back to, you know, their drive-through abortions in four years, whatever it is that they really care about, you know, transgender surgeries for three-year-olds without parental consent.
You know, what is it that has these people so panicked?
I think that your dad, I think that Trump exposed the fullness of the racket that has become American politics.
I've got to say that even in my early days, going back to the Reagan years, we were aware of the government racket in domestic policy.
We would talk about, for example, the housing department as a racket, or for example, the welfare programs were a racket.
But we made an exception for the Defense Department.
We thought, oh no, we're fighting a cold war, so even though they're buying $500 coffee pots, We're not going to worry about that too much because we've got to defeat the Russians.
I think what happened with your dad is he comes along and he shows that this corruption has metastasized so much that not only is it in foreign and domestic policy, but it's even in places like the health authorities.
I mean, who knew you couldn't trust the guys in the white lab coats when a pandemic comes along, but it turns out you can't.
I liken it to a kind of a big watering hole.
This is the swamp.
The Democrats have all the best positions at the swamp, but they make some room for some Republicans as well.
And so your dad comes along, I'm going to drain that swamp.
And all these guys go nuts because their whole livelihood, their whole prestige, the reason that there are cars waiting for them and people who open the door for them to get in is all because of their Position at the swamp.
They haven't made their own success.
They haven't made their own money.
So your dad is a very scary guy to these guys who have made a comfortable, got a comfortable racket going, and some of them are in the Republican Party.
I guess relating to all of that, how is it that my father can inspire sort of such radically opposite reactions to the point where it feels like there's some that are out there that would take a bullet for him and then there's others who would celebrate would-be assassins who actually try to take his life?
How do you create that level of dichotomy?
You'd have to go back to Lincoln to find a figure that inspired this sort of radically opposed reactions.
And even with Lincoln, the controversy was not over Lincoln.
It was not over the man.
It was over the issue, slavery.
But with your dad, it is over your dad.
It's over Trump.
Now, I think it could be explained.
It's explained in a fuller sense in the movie, but one image that I think helps us to get it in a glance is this.
You know, as well as anyone else, that iconic famous scene.
Of course, it's in the film.
Your dad is coming down the escalator to announce for president.
This is in 2015.
So I think of it this way.
You've got all the cultural elites at the top of the escalator.
You know, you've got Oprah, you've got Ellen DeGeneres, the Hollywood people, all the people who sucked up to your dad, wanted to be photographed with your dad, your dad was the coolest cat ever, he's the embodiment of the American dream.
And then your dad does a very fateful thing.
He gets on the escalator and he goes down, which is to say he descends.
Where does he descend to?
Well, down at the bottom, I envision the forgotten American.
The guy that politics has ignored this guy.
His job has gone overseas.
People have screwed him over.
This is a guy nobody cares about.
The Democrats don't care about him.
The Republicans haven't cared about him.
And here's your dad, who has no reason to care about this guy, but he does.
And he takes up the cause of this guy.
So I think you can see right away why the forgotten American is joined at the hip to your dad because your dad has agreed to champion his cause or her cause.
And at the same token, the people at the top, the cultural elite, they were like, wait a minute, you, Donald Trump, used to be one of us.
You are a traitor to your class.
You are selling us out and joining with all the pitchfork people and taking up their cause against us.
So I think right here in a single image, you get a little picture of why there are some people who love Trump and will stick by him no matter what.
And then you've got these begrudging, resentful, envious, hate-cultural elites that will never forgive your dad.
The same people who loved him now have turned against him.
So this film, Vindicating Trump, it's in theaters across the country.
Are you concerned about the usual cancel culture tactics or any kind of funny business?
And again, where can people go to find it?
Because again, I think it is important to get it out there.
You'll be out.
But how do people find it?
Are you going to make it available outside of theaters as well before the election so that, again, everyone has a chance to go see what exactly is going on?
It'll be available later, DVD.
It'll be available for streaming.
But right now, it's in the best place it should be, which is you can see it in the theater, and you can see it with like-minded people, and you'll go nuts.
I mean, very often at the end of my film, the whole theater erupts in applause.
This is gonna be the same.
It's in a lot of theaters, about 850, so it's all over the country.
You should be able to find it within 15 minutes, maybe 30 minutes at the most, even if you live in a rural area.
You can buy tickets any the which way.
You can get them at Fandango, all the normal movie sites, or just go to VindicatingTrump.com, that's the movie website, and you put in your zip code, your town, the theaters will come up, buy tickets straight off of that.
So we've made it easy for people to see the film.
And by the way, this is not like, it's not showing like one showing a day, multiple showings a day throughout the weekend.
So the theater is, it's made for the theater.
It's the best way to see it, but there'll be other ways to see it further down the road.
Does the film have a message, say, for independents, for people who, you know, maybe feel, you know, politically, you know, isolated or on an island, first-time voters, or, you know, honestly, even perhaps Democrats.
I mean, I would stress the safety and what's going on around the world.
You would think they would care, but, you know, maybe not.
The film makes both a policy case for Trump but also a character defense of Trump.
What it shows is that Trump is the guy to take on this tightening noose that is eroding and threatening and choking off one by one our basic liberties.
So this goes beyond the traditional Republican-Democrat fight over tax rates, or even over the border.
Because what we've seen is this kind of emerging police state.
It's not coming from Trump.
Trump did nothing tyrannical in his first term.
People shouted, lock her up!
But he didn't lock her up.
He didn't lock Hillary up.
But they're trying to lock him up.
The irony of all that, right?
Left and right.
Yeah.
Doesn't stop them from trying to lock him up, as they've shown.
But again, that's the typical Democrat projection we've gotten used to.
That is absolutely right.
So, you know, the nice thing about a film is that it appeals to the head and the heart.
And it tells a story.
It's not something that's heavy-handed.
It's not... See, the thing about it, Don, is if I were to tell you about, let's say, my childhood in India, you'd have no good sense of what that was like.
But if I showed you a video and said, there I am as a kid, that was my room.
That's the guy with the monkey who would come out on the street and do tricks.
These are the vendors who came shouting outside my door.
You'd be like, wow, I can see for myself what it was like for you to grow up.
So what a movie can do is it show, not tell.
And as a result, if you're an independent voter, I'm not in a heavy-handed way trying to sell you on something.
I'm just showing you Trump.
I'm like, you haven't seen Trump like this before.
Listen to him talk.
I'm going to pose interesting questions.
You get to sort of discover him straight out without the refracting filter and the distorting filter of the media.
So, Dinesh, obviously, you know, we're, you know, five weeks out, five and a half weeks out from an election.
I think you were a student of many of the games that were played last time.
Obviously, you did an entire movie, 2,000 Mules, about some of those couriers that were obviously manipulating ballots and doing that.
That was as clear as day.
Are you watching what's going on now?
Do you feel either we've done a decent job of trying to combat whatever that is?
Again, we tend to be more reactionary.
They're very creative.
They'll come up with another game that we haven't thought of, and then you have no standing two minutes after the election, even if it's clearly fraud.
What do you see this time around?
Can people feel confident that that stuff's not going on?
I mean, you know, I see so many people, you know, half of them are probably, you know, in in the comments or in the, you know, in the live chat right now.
You know, they're probably Democrats pretending to be so demoralized to get others to sit at home so they never show up.
Half the polling is designed to make you overconfident.
The other half is designed to have you be demoralized so you don't bother to vote.
Do you feel there's a handle on that?
Do you think it's harder for them to get away with it in a post-COVID world?
Is there a pitfall that you see that we're not covering?
I'd love to get your thoughts on that, because I imagine that's going to be a question that's on top of people's minds.
Doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the movie, but as someone who's been a student of the fraud, you know, What do you think happens?
I mean, actually, Don, it's right there in the movie, and I'll say why.
Because I think that they cannot do the 2,000 mules cheat in exactly the same way again.
Why?
Because people know about it.
If mules show up at one o'clock in the morning looking left and right with backpacks full of ballots, they're going to be patriots waiting for them with cell phones turned on.
And so the Democrats know this.
They have to think of new ways to cheat.
So what I did in this film is I said to myself, all right, I'm going to put myself in the mind of the criminals.
I'm going to ask, if I were to do it, I can't rob Fort Knox the old way.
I need a new way to do it.
How would I do it?
How would we go about doing it?
And we have an explosive vulnerability of our election system, but my motive in exposing it and putting it out there It's to make it impossible for it to be carried out.
It's kind of like if I was saying, listen, I found a back door that is open in Fort Knox.
I'm going to show you that they don't lock this door on weekends.
But guess what?
Because I've told you that now, it's going to be much tougher for the bad guys to get away with it.
So this film has a section.
It is called, intriguingly, The Ballot Makers.
And that section alone is worth the price of the film.
But the film integrates that theme because, of course, All Republicans are concerned about the issue of election integrity after what happened in 2020.
Yeah, Hunter, I mean, I think, you know, a big part of them being able to get on TV and tell us it was the freest and fairest election, even if we, you know, have hundreds of thousands of ballots being mailed to homes and there's no idea, no nothing, you know, they can just say that and get away with it.
I think, you know, they did that effectively last time under the guise of COVID under this.
But a whole the whole premise of switching out Joe Biden wasn't that he was going to you know, just lose, it's that if they played those games
and he somehow won, no one would believe it.
And you know, a key I think to even the Democrats, and even if they're happy with the result,
a key to this notion of democracy that they talk about all the time, and you know, again,
for them it's a cocktail party, it's a laughing soundbite, they think we're morons, but is
that it had to be a little bit believable.
You know, now that I've had a few weeks actually trying to listen to Kamala Harris every once
in a while, it's actually shocking.
I think she's actually probably a worse candidate than Joe Biden.
I think she's probably intellectually inferior to him, even in his current, let's call it borderline vegetative state.
You know, but, but enough people may be like, no, but you know, she's a, she's a black woman and it's, it's okay.
So that feels like that's a big part of that game.
Well, I mean, I agree.
It's one thing to have had a mind that is now deteriorated.
It's another thing to have the kind of so-called non-mind that Kamala Harris so often expresses.
But I think you said, you know, switching him out, and that alone is a very telling phrase right there, because I think what we're seeing, to my knowledge, is unprecedented in American history, because no one doubted that in the past, let's say Bill Clinton was the head of the Democratic Party, or before him, let's say Jimmy Carter, or even a candidate like Dukakis, they were calling the shots.
Right.
But now we seem to have a kind of a junta, a regime.
And even in 2020, they were like, we're not going to have a real primary.
We're just going to move Joe Biden to the front in the understanding that he's our figurehead.
He's going to be sitting in the canoe.
He's the face of the party, but he doesn't steer the canoe.
And then they say, we reserve the right to swap him out.
And then we bring in Kamala Harris.
But the key part is we.
Who's the we?
We bring in Kamala Harris.
No primary again.
She comes in, but she's our pawn.
She's going to say what we tell her to say.
And frankly, if we have to swap her out at some point, she's got to go with a smile.
I mean, what a scary situation.
The party that talks about democracy really has no sense of democracy at all and doesn't certainly practice it.
Yeah, I mean, I think even Gavin Newsom now, he probably feels bitter that they didn't choose him or install, I should say, install him because there was no choosing.
But he's like, no, we had a duly elected process and she's the clear winner.
That's what I've been told to say.
And I'm like, There's not a single way of looking at this that you could say this was a fair process or had anything to do with democracy, and it doesn't matter.
I mean, again, I think he was a little bit better, so it was maybe the one time he was, while he was perhaps tongue-in-cheek, rightfully bitter about what's going on, and actually called them out at their own game for the first time maybe ever.
Yeah, they're trying to pull a fast one on the American people in so many ways.
I mean, look, even in tyrannical regimes today, we know who the leader is, right?
China is a tyrannical regime.
It's run by Xi.
Cuba is tyrannical.
We know who's running Cuba.
We know the Supreme Mullahs are running Iran.
We haven't had a clear idea of who has been running this country for four Straight years.
I mean, just let's digest that shocking fact.
And the Democrats are promising us really four more years of the same.
What they're trying to do is say to the American people, listen, don't trust your own lying eyes.
Don't trust your pocketbook.
Don't trust your retirement account.
Don't trust what you see about the border.
Don't trust all the idiocies that you have actually seen come out of Kamala's mouth with her lips moving.
Don't trust any of that.
We have created this new and improved Kavala Harris, this smoke and mirrors, and we're counting on you to believe this propaganda, this image, over your own experience.
So in some ways, it's almost like the election is a test of the emotional, intellectual, and psychological IQ of the American people.
Amazing.
Well, guys, everyone go check out Vindicating Trump.
Dinesh, you've said it's available everywhere.
Hopefully we get it to as many people, independent, otherwise voters, across the country over the next, you know, 30-something days.
It's so critical for people to understand.
You know, we don't have an objective media.
We have regime propagandists.
And so, Dinesh, it's great that people like you are actually going out there, putting your blood, sweat, tears and capital into it to make sure that other people see it.
So I really appreciate it.
Great having you on here.
Good luck with the film and everyone check it out.
Thanks very much.
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