Debate Day, Exclusive Interview with Glenn Beck | TRIGGERED Ep.149
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Guys, welcome to another huge episode of Triggered.
It's debate night, folks, and it's going to be a wild one.
We're going to get into how the deck is stacked shortly.
I think it's going to be my father.
Debating CNN hosts.
Jake Tapper, not exactly a fan, said a lot of pretty bad stuff about my father.
A co-host.
A one-minute time delay.
Joe Biden today has refused to do a drug test beforehand.
I wonder why you would refuse to do something if you weren't actually getting jacked up on something.
Seems odd.
Doesn't seem like a great way to instill confidence.
That what we're getting is the guy that's gonna pick up the phone at 3 o'clock in the morning if it all goes to hell.
Hmm.
Well.
We're gonna talk about all that and more because today we have a first-time guest.
The founder of The Blaze.
The one and only Mr. Glenn Beck.
There's gonna be a lot to cover.
We have the debate starting in just a few hours in Atlanta.
Will we see...
Jacked up Joe.
Will you see when he comes in all fired up and hot and for no real reason because they have him on some sort of, I don't know, amphetamines to make him seem coherent?
Will the moderators even attempt to be fair based?
Honestly, based on everything I've seen, based on the clips, based on what they tried to do to me during Russia, Russia, Russia, these very people, I wouldn't count on it.
So it's Trump against the world, as always.
I've been traveling non-stop.
I literally did a day trip to the Middle East to visit a project that we have, if you can believe that.
I was literally on the ground for 18 hours.
I traveled for about 34.
Not awesome, but it's great to be here with all of you guys.
Unlike Joe, I'm not jacked up on amphetamines, just a little caffeine and a workout.
Hopefully the energy translates and I don't fall asleep, but again, it's gonna be a fun show, a great precursor to the debate.
I wanna make sure you guys are also liking, sharing, and subscribing, guys.
We gotta get this message out.
Just like this CNN debate's gonna be biased and jacked up against us, that's the same thing as we see with the rest of the media, the rest of big tech.
They're all stacked against us, so we have to work even harder
We have to work more efficiently.
We have to work smarter to make sure that we break through all of the noise and actually grow this movement.
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With that, guys, we're going to get into the news.
In just a few hours, my father and Joe Biden will meet for the first debate of 2024.
It's a big one.
It's a big moment.
And I hope you all tune in.
It could be the only one.
I don't know.
If Joe's not jacked up enough or whatever it is, he may try to pull out of the next one.
It could be the only debate of the 2024 cycle.
They will come up with whatever excuses.
He's refused the drug test.
I'm sure he'll be doped up with a couple of nonsense one-liners that someone else wrote that he probably has on a notepad in front of him.
CNN has put in a one-minute time delay so they can probably bleep out and censor any Trump great one-liners that would put this moron in his place.
Joe's been hiding out at Camp David for about a week.
For about a week!
Think about that.
I mean, he's supposed to be running the country.
Isn't that debate prep enough?
I know that's what it was with my father, right?
You don't need to do this.
He hides away at Camp David for a week, doing God knows what.
I hope they didn't overload him with too many drugs, okay?
It's dangerous to put nitrous in a Prius, folks.
It doesn't work that way.
It's not sustainable, okay?
You're gonna blow your tranny.
Not
That's the kind of tranny we're talking about these days, okay?
Back when you could actually call a transmission a tranny.
That doesn't work that way.
You put too much nitrous in a Prius, you're gonna have a problem.
And there's a one-minute delay, as we discussed.
Joe Biden won't take a drug test.
I mean, this could get really interesting.
It could also be incredibly biased, right?
This debate won't just be one-on-one.
It's going to be three-on-one.
That's all it is.
It's a three-on-one fight.
It's hosted by Fake News CNN.
And the moderators, Jake Tapper and Dana Bash, are anti-Trump liberals.
Check out this clip and see for yourself.
Many of the divisions caused and exacerbated by President Trump himself.
It's been a time of several significant and utterly avoidable failures, most tragically, of course, the unwillingness to respect facts and science and do everything that can be done to save lives during a pandemic.
It has been a time where truth and fact were treated with disdain.
It is a time of cruelty where official inhumanity such as child separation became the official shameful policy of the United States.
But now the Trump presidency is coming to an end.
To an end.
With so many squandered opportunities and ruined potential, but also an era of just plain meanness.
It must be said, to paraphrase President Ford, for tens of millions of our fellow Americans, their long national nightmare is over.
Here's a question that I have because it is again it seems like the Supreme Court is in a bubble or perhaps it's some of the justices are in a bubble and they're not dealing with I mean when they say oh Congress can do this there are members of Congress and we can go through the list who are never going to do anything that would make life difficult for Donald Trump so to think that the Congress is going to solve this they can they barely can get a post office name these days
It's true.
I mean, and you can go down the list of Supreme Court decisions that kicked whatever issue over across the street over to Congress, whether it is, I mean, Obamacare, which is something that the Democrats were very happy about when they when they did that, a different little bit of a different kind of court.
Voting rights, I think, is maybe the primary example of what you're saying before this.
You know, look,
Unfortunately for America, the court isn't necessarily wrong that this is the way the framers wanted it to be.
They wanted Congress, the people who are closest to their constituents, to be able to make the rules of the laws.
One of the moderators says that the Trump presidency was a nightmare, and the other thinks it's unfortunate that the Supreme Court is letting him on the ballot.
CNN and Joe Biden are going to work together tonight.
There is no doubt about that.
That's what the one minute delay is for.
If Trump has one of those, you know, because you'd be in jail, or because you're falling off the stage, Jeb,
Low energy, whatever.
If he has one of those moments, you can no doubt believe that they're going to make sure that no one ever sees it.
I think he should tape record the whole thing in his pocket so that we can play the difference, you know, the delta between what you will actually see on CNN and what you will actually have transpire at the debate.
You will hear Joe Biden talk about how no one is above the law.
I mean, Joe, that's a good point, except
The past week has made it abundantly clear how Joe puts illegal immigrants above the law.
And Americans suffer as a result.
Joe Biden's own DOJ and not prosecuting him and letting all of the things lapse show that the Bidens themselves are above the law.
But, you know, I'm sure we'll get into that in a few hours.
Or at least my father will.
The stories, guys, are endless.
In Maryland, an illegal immigrant led by Biden
This is Joe Biden's America, folks.
It doesn't stop.
It's not going to stop.
It's only going to get worse.
He has to answer for this tonight.
I don't expect Jake Tapper to ask tough questions about the border.
Jake Tapper's the guy that thought Russia collusion was real like three weeks ago.
I know because he targeted me with it.
I also don't expect CNN to ask Joe Biden about how his administration pushed to remove age limits for transgender surgeries.
Huh.
Wonder why they would do that.
Just think of how sick that is.
They want more minors to get sex change operations, despite incredibly high recidivism rates once these children get mature and understand what they did for themselves.
But, you know, it doesn't matter.
Anything in the name of wokeness.
CNN is going to let Joe Biden get away with lying.
The Trump campaign has a great site you should check out during the bait.
It's called factcheckbiden.com.
That's factcheckbiden.com.
That will call out Biden's lies live.
Okay?
They will be doing it live because you know CNN won't be.
You know, they'll be fact-checking, but they'll be making fact-checks and innuendos on my father.
I have a feeling, like always, they're going to give Biden and the Democrat machine a total pass.
So, like everything else, if you know they're not going to do it, build your own.
We did.
Check out factcheckbiden.com live during the debate.
I had my producers go back and look through the 2020 debate.
And look at this lie we found here from Biden.
He promised to build 500,000 electric vehicle chargers.
A half a million electric vehicle chargers.
Watch here for yourself.
Well guys, it's been nearly four years since that moment.
Guess how many chargers of the half a million that he promised to build have actually been built
Well, if you guessed anything other than seven, you would be wrong.
Seven.
Seven of half a million, folks.
Bytonomics in action.
Incompetence covered by the mainstream media.
Incompetence, dereliction of duty, covered up by big tech.
So what are they working on instead, guys?
If they promised half a million chargers and they only built seven, not 700,000!
Not 70!
Not even 17.
Seven.
Okay?
Seven of half a million.
That's what you get from Joe Biden.
He'll promise you the world and deliver nothing.
He'll buy your votes with things he's not entitled to give you.
And then, when they pull it away, after you voted for him, it'll be too late and our country will be further down the path towards ruin.
Pushing for trans surgeries is what they are doing instead, folks.
Trans surgeries for minors.
We're now learning that senior Biden administration health officials pressured an international group of medical experts to remove age limit guidelines for transgender surgeries on minors.
This is according to newly revealed court documents.
Think about how insane that is.
Why is that your hill to die on, folks?
Why?
Haven't we seen enough of this nonsense?
Haven't we seen enough of the rage from these young kids put on drugs for the rest of their life?
The recidivism rate and the suicide rate later on once they realize that the promised land that was jammed down their throat by some rainbow-haired colored freak teacher probably wasn't quite as good as they thought it was gonna be.
Think about how insane that is.
Email excerpts from the World Professional Association for Transgender Health reveals how Assistant Secretary for Health, Rachel Levine, trans itself, I guess?
I don't even know what it is.
It's tough to look at.
It's Pat, folks.
Staff pressed the organization to drop age requirements for minors to obtain gender transition surgeries in the group's September 2022 standard of care update.
Now, this is all coming out as part of a lawsuit against HSS, and we'll be continuing to follow that story.
Hopefully we'll get some of the people involved on here, so you can understand just how deranged and depraved this all is.
And not just the radicals and the lunatics, the people in the administration that are trying to make this and normalize this kind of ridiculousness for minors.
And finally, I want to make sure you all have seen this must-watch moment from Tucker Carlson in Australia.
He absolutely tears apart this liberal, lunatic reporter.
I've tweeted about it a bunch.
I've talked about it a bunch.
I watched this clip and you realize just how stupid, he's right, just how stupid the press is.
And that's why you need people like a Tucker Carlson or a JD Vance.
They don't just accept the narrative that's thrown out there as part of a virtue signaling aspect of a supposed question that's really
Don't you agree that because this we must do it's nonsense and he tears this idiot apart watch this clip and I promise you watch the clip don't worry no one was murdered but it does look like a crime scene I saw this thing I was like somebody called 9-1-1 because I've got a report a homicide I don't want to turn in my buddy Tucker but like this is a murder check it out
And so you need to fix the economy and fix the culture and make it so that people who want to have kids can.
You don't just go for the quick sugar fix of importing new people.
Like, that's my position.
And if you think that's racist,
That's your problem.
I never called you a racist.
But of course you are suggesting, and I must say one of the reasons people don't like people like you in the media is that you never say exactly what you mean.
Your slurs are all by implication and you're about to tell me the Great Replacement Theory is racist or anti-semitic or whatever.
I've said what I've said to you right now like a hundred times in public.
I hope to, if I live long enough, say it a hundred more times.
I think it's completely honest and real, not racist or scary.
It's factually true.
It's not a theory.
It's a fact.
And the whole point of your question was to be like, you're a scary racist.
And my response is, no I'm not.
Okay, well how about no more lying in your questions and then I'll answer it.
Okay, well...
Um, this is the same theory, or as you say, idea, that has inspired the New York Buffalo shooting where 11 white Americans were killed.
Oh God, come on!
You know what I mean?
It's also inspired the worst, one of the worst Australian guns of all time.
How do they get people this stupid in the media?
I guess it doesn't pay well.
Look, I'm sorry, I've lived among people like you for too long and I don't mean to call you stupid.
Maybe you're just pretending to be.
I've never... I'm totally against violence.
I'm totally against the war in Ukraine, for example, which doubtless you support.
And like all dutiful liberals, support more carnage.
I don't.
I hate mass shootings, actually.
Nothing I said... What does it mean to inspire something?
My views are not bigoted against any group.
They're honest.
They're factual.
That's not hate.
That's reality.
And my views derive from my deep concern for Americans, actually.
Americans aren't having kids because they can't afford to, and nobody in charge cares.
And so that's my position.
That doesn't inspire mass shootings.
How dare you try to tie me to some lunatic who murdered people?
How dare you, actually?
And in fact, I mean, do you know what I mean?
I mean, like, you know, Hitler wore those shoes.
A lot of people are saying that you're like Hitler.
Can you explain those shoes?
Hitler wore exactly the same shoes, and you're like, I've got nothing to do with Hitler.
Well, that's how I feel about your absurd, disingenuous question.
Right, so therefore you support gun control?
What?
I thought it couldn't get dumber, but it did!
No!
I don't support disarming law-abiding people so they can't defend themselves.
So the government has a monopoly on violence?
I don't think so.
First of all, in my country that's illegal, as you know.
But moreover, it should be illegal in every country.
A sovereign person has the right to defend himself and his family.
Period.
And that said, I'm totally opposed to harming anyone.
Anyone.
Have you been calling?
Are you concerned about the war in Ukraine?
And the countless innocents being murdered there every single day?
I doubt you are.
Probably Putin bad.
I am.
I'm a Christian.
I hate violence.
I hate mass shootings.
I have guns at home and often on my person when I'm in the United States, I'm proud to say.
Because I want to defend myself and those I love against violence.
That's the point.
I'm not perpetrating crimes.
I'm not shooting strangers.
I'm defending what I love.
And if you're against that, I guess I would ask why.
Why would you be against that?
Well, so you don't think you harbor any kind of responsibility for these hate crimes?
I'm sorry, I'm trying to be charitable.
I'm trying to be charitable.
I was like, maybe you're just pretending to be dumb.
Now I don't think it's an act.
Tucker, thank you for taking those questions.
I'm sure you enjoyed some questions from the press.
Actually, I loved it.
I just feel sorry.
I mean, because I got here and the country's so unbelievably beautiful and the people are so cheerful and funny and cool and smart.
I'm like, your media's got to be better than ours.
It can't just be a bunch of castrated robots reading questions from the boss.
And then it turns out it's exactly the same, maybe even a tiny bit dumber.
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Okay, guys.
Joining me now, the founder of The Blaze, the one and only Glenn Beck.
Glenn, great to have you on the show, man.
First time.
I love this.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thanks for all the invites in the past, and I'm so sorry I haven't been able to make it before.
But today is the perfect day to talk to you.
I don't know why you're talking to me, but I know why I want to talk to you.
Well, listen, there's obviously so much to cover.
You know, yeah, I get it.
Trust me.
Doing the podcast thing when others invite me on theirs, I'm like, I do enough podcasts on my own.
I don't need to be elsewhere.
But we do have to get the message out because, you know, hey, I don't expect a lot of
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Alright, the economy, everything, the world peace, all that stuff didn't seem too much like Hitler, but what do I know?
Jake Tapper apparently knows better.
He's a really bad Hitler.
He's like the worst Hitler ever.
If you were to try to be Hitler, Trump really failed at being...
I think Shane Gillis did a great skit called Hitler's where it's Trump as like a Hollywood actor because no one else would play it.
And so he's like, I'll do this.
I recommend anyone.
I think they scrubbed it from the internet because it was too endearing.
It was sort of funny because that's the narrative.
But Glenn, what do you expect to see tonight from the debate?
Which Joe Biden are we going to get?
I don't think so.
Yeah, I've never seen that in a presidential debate where we're talking about legally they can give him this and it would really help him along.
So I don't know.
I think we're going to get the best focus.
Is that you or me?
The best focused that is possible from from Joe Biden, which doesn't really mean much.
Artificially enhanced though, right?
There's a reason they today refused.
They refused the drug test right now.
If you're not gonna be taking something, why wouldn't you take it and then you end that whole narrative once and for all, right?
Like, that's the easiest thing in the world.
It takes 30 seconds.
If you're not doing something, you take the test, you end the narrative.
So, then they have an article about what they can legally give him and, you know, so...
I imagine it's going to be, it's going to be one, I know Trump will be on Diet Coke and maybe like some comic insult dog, like, you know, comic book jokes.
Joe Biden's going to have a cocktail like we've never seen put together before.
It's going to make like the Russian, you know, 1980s Russian weightlifting team seem, seem undoped.
Yeah, but I think he's going to come out and he's going to do everything to make President Trump angry.
He's going to throw every, you know, felony, you know, you're a lawbreaker, you're a liar, you're Hitler, whatever they've got, and if President Trump can
You know, I've noticed recently he's got his mojo back.
He's walking differently.
He's got a swagger to him again.
He's got the he has the fun Donald Trump back in him.
And if he can just like, yeah, well, we could talk about the felonies some other time and just stay focused on the American people, if he can show the empathy that
I have seen.
I mean, it must drive you guys crazy as family members because, you know, I see him, you know, very rarely.
You grew up around him.
You're around him all the time.
He is a compassionate, decent, empathetic man.
And you just don't ever see that.
I don't know why he never shows that side of him.
I've actually said that to him before.
You have all these stories of these guys that have worked for him 40 years, entire careers dedicated to him and his family.
They don't leave because these stories of him helping them out or giving some guy an opportunity who started off as a low-level position and now he's literally running a hotel or something like that.
Not because he had the degrees.
I spoke about this really in my 2016 RNC speech.
He gave those guys a chance.
They'd run through a wall for him because they knew no one else would likely do that.
Again, they didn't have the acronyms after their name that really don't mean all that much, but it was the credibility.
It was interesting when I said, like, I've seen that side of you.
I've seen you do these great deeds for people.
I've seen you be charitable.
Like, why not talk about it?
And I think he sometimes has that old school mentality of like, hey, I can't appear to be soft if I'm going to go negotiate against Kim Jong-un or whatever it may be.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He doesn't want to show that side because it feels he loses some leverage against some of the bigger boys who don't have any compassion.
But, you know, we live in a different system.
Here is the thing that he, that I have seen.
I was with him maybe six months after the last election and, um, and I knew how hard that was on him.
And this is before they were attacking you guys and, uh, and attacking him, you know, by dragging him into the courts and everything else.
They were threatening and it was really bad, but it was before it got really, really bad.
And I said,
How are you holding up?
And he looked at me and I wish I had a camera with me.
It was before we sat down for an interview.
And he looked at me and he said, pretty good, except I mean,
You know, we had it.
We had it.
We had the economy and the people that elected me.
I promised them that I would fix it, and we had it.
And now they're destroying it, and I don't know how to live with that.
I really don't know how to live with the fact that
All of those people that trusted me now have been betrayed and I could tell it was so sincere and it was, is this me?
I want to make sure that's not me.
I don't know if you're hearing that.
I'm not hearing anything.
Oh you're not?
Okay.
But the thing that really struck me was
It was just the polar opposite of what everybody says about Donald Trump.
It's always him, him, him, him, him.
This showed that he was going to run again, to me, was going to run again only because he couldn't live with the fact that the people of the country that voted for him and wanted a good country that didn't vote for him, it's all going to be destroyed.
Yeah.
Because he failed in 2020.
Yeah, I'm not even, honestly, I don't even know that he's had that conversation with me.
You know, which, so it's interesting.
I mean, that's how sort of reluctant he is to ever sort of, you know, show that side of him.
But see, there's a difference, though.
The side that you were talking about is all the philanthropic things that he does that are just, that are not big, you know, things.
They're just, he helps people.
This is, what he needs to hit tonight is what I heard from him.
He cares and understands deeply about the average American.
Because these guys don't.
But he does.
And I saw it in that moment.
Yeah, and I think that's what's so clear, and it's why, you know, Biden, you know, they'll do it anyway because they'll have sort of the cover of big tech, they'll have the cover of the mainstream media, but it's why they're gonna hit him on the nonsense, the lawfare, because, you know, if you're being honest, like, and hey, I would love Glenn, I was a realistic guy, I built buildings, I did that kind of stuff, I did deals, like, you know, I don't need, you know, 50 hours of congressional testimony for treason under Russia, Russia, Russia, or hours of testimony for J6 for, you know,
The first unarmed insurrection in the history of the world.
I don't need that headache.
But we do it because, you're right, we don't have a choice.
And Biden doesn't have a choice but to attack my father on the nonsense because they have nothing to run on.
I would love for him to be successful, but there's not a metric, not a single one, that's benefiting the average American.
At least two front war and the stuff going on down in Guyana and whatever it may be, like, I mean, the world is a mess.
America is leading from behind if they're leading at all.
The bad actors of the world, you know, because it's the nature of predation, are taking advantage of that.
They're seizing on the weakness and, you know, when America exudes weakness, of course we're gonna do that.
When you have a guy that can't go up a flight of stairs and clearly needs to be doped up to
Be on a debate stage or as they requested last week, could he have a chair?
Because he can't stand up for an hour.
I mean, you know, this is not, this doesn't instill confidence in, you know, the supposed leader of the free world.
That's scary stuff.
You know what you said about your dad saying, you know, if I'm going to negotiate against Kim Jong-il, then, you know, I need to have this kind of attitude.
That's the opposite of what I think their strategy is tonight.
They want the president to look like an old kind of, gosh he's just our grandpa, and here's this big bully beating up on him.
What president, what president can't handle a debate without throwing in the, well they just, he hurt my feelings.
Good heavens man, then you're not qualified to be president of the United States.
But they're also, Glenn, it feels like part of that strategy is, like, our country has gotten so whacked out, right?
Whether it's, you know, there's, you know, groups and, you know, demographics of, you know, whether it's, you know, perhaps suburban women.
Oh, he's picking on a feeble old man.
Like, no, that feeble old man's the guy that has to pick up the phone at four in the morning when the world's going to hell and, like, we could be on the brink of nuclear disaster.
Like, you know, it's, they're giving so much credit to the virtue signaling of that.
Like, I want a strong leader.
Like, if that's the guy that's getting that call at that time of the morning when the world's at, like, the brink of nuclear disaster, like, I don't want the guy that... And by the way, make no mistake, Joe Biden is not a nice man.
He is not a good man.
He is not a decent man.
He's a scumbag that's taken advantage of everything in the world.
His own DOJ wouldn't prosecute him because I guess he's not competent to stand trial, but he's competent enough to take that phone call at 4 a.m.
That's scary stuff, but there are literally
I guess they're just so privileged at this point in our country that, like, well, that doesn't matter.
He's old and feeble.
We can't do that.
You know, old, you know, old white people.
Well, no, I don't, you know, I could be there one day.
Like, no, it's okay to be old and a little feeble.
That's fine.
That doesn't make you a bad person.
It just doesn't mean you should be the person running the free world.
Like, there's a difference.
Yes.
There's a difference.
Yes, a huge difference.
Huge difference.
And, you know, when you look at everything that is happening around the world, I don't know, have you read Annie Jacobson's book, Nuclear War?
I have not yet, no.
But I will check it out.
It is so good.
It is, it's minute by minute.
What happens, North Korea launches a missile, and that's, you know, second number one.
And she takes you through every minute of what has to happen and how it plays out and what the odds are and everything else.
And it's impossible for a president
Who is fully there to make these decisions in less than six minutes.
And the Pentagon cannot advise the President.
He can't go to them and say, hey, what would you guys do?
They constitutionally have to back out of that conversation and say, it's only the Secretary of Defense that can consult you.
Can you imagine that situation with Joe Biden and our current Secretary of Defense?
Oh, good lord.
Yeah.
It's time to send, you know, The Thing.
The Thing.
Yeah.
The Thing.
I mean, it's horrifying.
What's the name of the book?
I definitely have to check that out.
Just Nuclear War?
I think it's called Nuclear War or... I think it's Nuclear War.
Annie Jacobson.
It is really, really good.
It shows, and it also goes to show you
You know, all of the things that, you know, we learned when we were kids.
There's no winner in nuclear war.
Oh yeah, no.
Mutually Assured Destruction was the greatest concept of like PoliSci 101.
It's like, oh that's what kept us safe.
Ever.
When you have... And now we have multiple countries
You know, spending more and more money on nukes, a hypersonic missile apparently launched yesterday by North Korea.
You better, America better take this seriously.
You cannot have that man in charge of the button.
You can't.
Russia has three hypersonic, you know, nuclear capable warships, I guess, in Cuba right now.
I mean, you know, we're going back to the 1960s of what could go wrong.
Hard to believe they're fighting a war, but they're still able to, you know,
Front on us that way, but I guess to your point, how do you strike that message with the American people tonight?
Because it is so critical, it's so obvious, but again, we live in a world where reporters aren't reporters, they're not journalists, they're activists, they're propagandists for the regime.
So as long as you have that, how do you get people to understand the gravitas of that situation that we're literally sitting in right now?
I think that that's why I'm so hopeful that President Trump will look the camera in the eye, dismiss the old guy, dismiss Jake Tapper and Dana Bash, and just look right into the lens.
He's a television performer.
He can do this.
Look directly into the lens and say, I hear you.
This is madness.
We're talking about nuclear war.
We weren't talking about that four years ago, were we?
Were you worried about the apocalypse?
A nuclear apocalypse four years ago?
Were you worried about filling your gas tank?
Going to a grocery store?
You weren't.
These policies are now the cause of all of this, and I can stop it.
This is nuts, and you know it.
Yeah, by the way, as soon as we get done with this, I'm calling him and being like, hey, by the way, I've got a great idea for you.
It's totally mine.
I'm going to take credit for that.
Please do.
But if he would look the people in the eye, no matter what, I don't care what the question is.
This is Roger Ailes to Reagan.
Yeah.
He was losing to Jimmy Carter because Jimmy Carter knew all the facts and figures of the Farm Bill and everything else and Reagan wasn't up to it because that wasn't him.
And Roger Ailes looked at him and said, people like you for five reasons.
You believe in the American worker.
You believe in America.
So when he brings up the farm bill, say, look, I don't know because I don't really care because none of that works.
Big government.
Here's who I trust.
The American farmer.
They know how to grow crops better than anybody else.
Not the people in Washington, not even any farmer anywhere around the world, but the American farmer.
And I'm going to unleash him.
That's what Reagan did because of Roger Ailes.
And that's what your dad, no matter what they ask him, he should pick five things.
These five things are all I'm going to talk about.
And no matter what they say, come right back to, I hear the American people and you know this is nuts.
Yeah, I wish Fox News still had Roger Ailes instead of Paul Ryan.
That would be a big change, but minor details.
We get basically a Democrat on the board of Fox News instead of Roger Ailes.
That's what we call a serious downgrade.
Yes.
So, Glenn, honestly, how important is tonight's debate?
I mean, it's the earliest one we've ever seen.
I was thinking about it going back to 2020 and going back to 2016, and I was like,
Why is it so early?
And I wonder, I mean, is this something that they can use, like a disastrous performance by Joe Biden to replace him?
Will it make a big difference in November, you know, five months out?
What do you think the strategy is behind it being this early?
Because it does seem odd to go historically early with a candidate like this.
Is it to give some time to- And neither of them
Neither of them have been officially nominated.
So it's not a presidential debate because neither of them have been nominated.
I go two ways.
And I don't have evidence or proof of any of these.
This is just me being Jack Carr and going, here's what I think.
If I were a fiction writer, here's what I would make that would be plausible.
One, if he blows it,
People won't remember it, you know, by the time November.
Yeah, they'll have a billion dollars in media to make it seem, you know, where they do the little montage clips where they take what was a three-minute speech and they clip it into 90 seconds, they get rid of all the stumbling, all the pauses.
I mean, you see the clips, but it's like they turn what is an incoherent mess into something that's at least moderately coherent.
Right.
So nobody will remember it by then.
The media will do its job on it by then.
And you don't know what he's going to be like in October.
Look at the rapid decline of Joe Biden in the last six months.
God only knows what he's going to be like in six months from now.
So you do this one debate.
This is the most charitable version of it.
You do this one debate.
You got it in the can.
As long as it's not a disaster,
You're okay.
We can then say he's a convicted felon.
We're not going to do it with a convicted felon.
That's your strategy to get him out of another debate.
Or it's because there are those Democrats that know this guy cannot function as President of the United States.
So let's put one in early.
If he bombs, if he destroys himself,
We can come up with a way during the convention to nominate somebody else and then the next debate is in September, a brand new candidate for Donald Trump to debate.
I mean, it feels, you know, again, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist.
It's like, except the conspiracy theorists have been batting about a thousand for the last, you know, five years.
I know.
I know.
Talk a little bit about the details.
You probably know it even better than me, but the Democrat system is very different.
They have these sort of superdelegates that can basically overrule the will of the people, right?
It almost, you know, in the Democrats primary, whatever people voted for in their home states almost means nothing in the system that they've created, right?
It's sort of... Correct.
Correct.
It's everything that they they said they were fighting against, you know, when, you know, you had another slate of electors, which is exactly what they told Al Gore to do in 2020.
You have to have another slate of electors just in case.
So your father, you know, talks about that.
And of course, he's, you know, evil Hitler times 10.
The same thing will happen this time during the nomination if, for some reason, he blows it or he dies or he falls off the airplane.
But what they've done is back in 1980, they saw that Ronald Reagan
Beat the GOP pick.
The GOP didn't like Ronald Reagan.
The GOP doesn't like your dad.
Now things are a little different, but in 2016, the GOP didn't like it.
A lot of the GOP, you know, they still don't like my dad.
They just have no choice.
No, no, no.
Yeah, I know, I know, I know.
The dynamics have changed.
But in 1980, the Democrats saw that and they said,
Wait a minute, the party was just overthrown by somebody just because of these grassroots people.
The people can't decide, and so they came up with the superdelegate.
The superdelegate can override the will of the people.
That's nuts.
You want to talk about getting rid of a danger to democracy and getting rid of democracy, that's it.
Because when you have a democratic republic, the only time it's democratic is when the people elect directly.
They just did that.
They elected that nominee and they're all going to overturn it.
Not saying that they're going to this time, but I think there is a chance of it.
Yeah, I mean, no question.
Listen, even the Republicans.
I remember in, you know, 16, I literally almost got in a fistfight with Mike Lee on the floor of the convention.
He's become a good friend, actually, since.
But, you know, that was a rough one.
It wasn't as simple as just the superdelegates.
You needed to get all of the delegates.
But, like, it was...
It was pretty interesting.
Like I said, he's literally since become one of my, you know, good friends sort of in the Senate, and I agree with him on a lot of things, and we go back and forth all the time, but like, at the time, you know, he was a cruise guy, and that was getting ugly, and it almost got ugly.
You know, I have to tell you, I have to tell you, this is what really bothers me.
There are people with integrity and people without integrity.
You know, my stance on your dad in 2016 was completely the opposite, and I didn't...
I did that because I believed that he wasn't the guy he was presenting himself as.
And I said to the audience, I pray I'm wrong on this, and if I am, I'll be the first to admit it.
I admitted it on the air.
By the way, you did it with me!
I gotta give credit where credit's due.
You literally were like,
You know, I love what you're doing.
We did a long interview on your show and you're like, hey, I just got to apologize.
It was actually one of the few standup that, you know, most people in politics, if they get something a little bit wrong or they change themselves, they pretend like it never happened.
You just, you own that.
I really respected that with you when you did that.
And I think you're right.
I get it.
Like, was he going to be, you know, you know, a great leader of life in 16?
I don't know.
It doesn't, you know, it seems like what, but like he did what he said he was going to do.
He promised the people one thing and he actually delivered.
This time, however, this time, for the first time in my lifetime, we have two presidents with a very clear and different record.
For this time, for the first time in my life, it's always been, hey, were you better off?
Well, I can change that.
Were you better off four years ago or now?
This time, this is the effect of the progressive movement.
We see it.
All of it, not all of them, a lot of the effects from this, what they've done over the last four years, are in effect.
2025 is going to be much worse if they win because a lot of the stuff they've done kicks in in 2025.
But now, you have a president saying, okay, he promised you that it would go back to normal.
Is this normal, America?
Is this normal?
If this is what you want, then you got more of this coming.
Or you can go back to the things that you know I produced.
It's an easy choice.
Yeah, I guess I've said that on the show a bunch, which is like, it's one of the only, probably the only election of my lifetime, probably yours too, where you've actually had real time under both.
You know, if you're eligible to vote and you've been a citizen, like, you've witnessed the world under both Trump and both Biden, both for four-year terms.
Choose.
It's not like... And very different.
Well, you know, in 16, Trump, I can do this, I can do that, I'll get peace done in the Middle East, I'll move the embassy to Jerusalem, all the things.
It's like, yeah, but everyone's promised that.
But then you actually saw him deliver.
And then you had Biden tell us all the things he was going to do in 2020, and we've watched the world degenerate into a total mess, both economically, geopolitically, and otherwise.
So that's a unique election, because you're not just hoping that someone delivers on your promises, you actually have
You know, real-world data, real-world markers, experience, to base that opinion on it, which seems like a no-brainer, but again, with the obstacles we're up against, you know, sort of shilling for the Democrat or the radical agenda, still not that easy.
Well, I mean, I don't know how you're going to do it.
I mean, again, you know, when it was 2008, well, I'm going to, you know, end Guantanamo and I'm going to end these wars and, you know, all of this stuff.
It wasn't, it didn't, it, you could tell, and this is what we warned against, that what is happening now was coming.
But this time, this time, it's here, and we know directly who did it, and the results are catastrophic in every category.
So now for the first time since this nightmare began with the progressive movement, you can say,
This or this?
America, there's no middle ground here.
We can't keep flipping back and forth.
We're losing all credibility and everything else.
We're about to lose our country.
Do you want to go?
Would you like to reconsider?
Would you like to go back and live the days when we were safer, we were more prosperous, and we had a future?
Or do you want to keep going down this path?
Well, I think a lot of that goes back to what you were saying earlier about my father, sort of his, you know, the somber attitude of like, we had all the things I promised.
We had that.
And to watch it sort of slip away, like you said, the best.
I mean, had he lost?
Fair.
You know, if anyone legitimately believed that, you know, Joe Biden outperformed Barack Obama in 2008, not even 2012, once people knew it was a disaster, but 08, in
Only Atlanta, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Detroit, and like, I mean, come on.
Like, no one actually believes that, right?
Like, no, he lost 18 of 19 bellwethers.
First person to ever do so.
He overperformed the first African-American president in history in, you know, very urban, uh, you know, African-American strongholds.
Like,
No one actually believes that, and I think that's also what made the whole thing so much harder.
It's one thing if, hey, if the American people didn't like the job you do, or whatever it is, it's one, hey, lose, move on, you know, he wasn't a career politician, there's no next step, it doesn't matter, he goes back to doing what he does.
But you'll, you know, when I say lose, you know, put it up in big air quotes, you lose that way, and it's different.
And it's going to be the same.
I mean, I wish your dad, when he gets in, I would hope that he would go for something groundbreaking like blockchain, voting on blockchain, where there's no reason that this country was, at least, the financial leader with Swift and everything else.
So we can transfer billions and trillions of dollars, and there's not a penny lost.
And we can't count votes?
It's absolutely inconceivable.
It's absurd.
But I mean, but so is everything.
I mean, last week we're losing the agreement with Saudi for the petrodollar.
All of these things that allowed us to leverage the way we... I mean, again, there's not a single place that we can point to where we've actually made any kind of progress other than, I guess, the, you know, making it much easier for, you know, three-year-olds to decide to mutilate their body permanently with gender-affirming care.
You know, I don't know if it's exactly think it's affirming, but...
Everybody makes mistakes, but at some point you have to say, okay, this has to be, they're operating on a different set of vision than we are, because everything they've done has weakened and hurt the United States of America.
Everything.
Absolutely everything.
You can't be wrong all the time.
It's, uh, well, they can.
It's actually, like, it almost defies statistics, right?
Like, you can't flip a coin a thousand times and get all tails.
And yet, magically, they seem to have done it.
And it's like, this is a win.
But it's not... Right, but it's not happening because they're wrong.
It's happening because that's what they're trying to do.
They're executing things flawlessly.
Joe Biden...
Joe Biden has been very effective for the radical cause because he will sign anything they put in front of him.
Barack Obama would have gladly done many of these insane things, except he was young enough and thoughtful enough to care about his actual legacy, that he wasn't going to jam these things down the throats of the Americans, understanding it wasn't popular.
But his team, whoever that is, if it's Susan Rice, if it's Valerie Jarrett, if it's Barack Obama himself,
Here, Joe, just sign here.
Don't worry about it.
You know, they'll throw his legacy under the bus.
They couldn't care less.
So, you know, I think it's a disaster for America.
It's a disaster for Americans.
It's literally a disaster across the board, and yet it's exactly what they want to be doing.
They've told us this.
They don't hide from that anymore.
Yes.
Yeah.
You know, I want to ask you something also about
You know, there's never been another Ronald Reagan, and there'll never be another Donald Trump.
They're just unique people.
Both different in their own ways and everything else, but unique people.
Reagan made a really poor choice in his vice president.
He made George Bush CIA, you know, globalist, all of that stuff.
I'm a Reagan—my first president I voted for was Ronald Reagan, and I was thrilled to vote for Ronald Reagan.
And there are a lot of people that are voting for Donald Trump, but it will—they always keep saying, well, it's only Donald Trump, it's only Donald Trump, only Donald Trump can do it.
When he's looking at a vice president, is he looking for somebody that understands the
The intellectual underpinnings of what he's trying to do, that he can then pass the torch so he could have 12 years instead of four?
Well, you know, I sure hope so, right?
In the conversations that I've had, you know, I'm curious to see, you know, your thoughts, because they may very well be different than mine.
You know, I've been pretty clear.
I've been pushing, you know, for a J.D.
Vance, you know, someone who understands that America
Well, it's someone who also, you know, like yourself, came around and realized that it was right.
And, you know, like everyone else, by the way, it seems like, you know, pretty much any of those people on that list in 16 would not have been a fan of my father, and then they get it now.
You know, I like that.
I don't want someone who's going to go back and, you know, in four years, you know, run as a Bush Republican and, you know, give that power back to the establishment.
And make no mistake, right, the swamp on both sides is deep.
It has teeth.
They just, they ain't going quietly into the dark and saying, hey, we're going to adapt this sort of, you know, MAGA, America First, however you want to look at it, you know, country.
I think that's what has been missing.
That's what started Trump, is those people realized they'd been forgotten, the men and women of this country, the blue collar workers.
You'd see that today there.
Yeah.
They're actually hated, frankly, by the left and probably most of the sort of rhino swamp.
And so, you know, a guy like JD, you know, with his upbringing in Appalachia, but then who made it and succeeded and a military veteran and someone who's just, you know, you watch him, you watch him go on CNN and, you know, he doesn't just accept the leftist narrative as though it's real.
He pushes back.
You know, we don't have
We're good to go.
It's dead.
It doesn't exist anymore.
Not if you want to actually win elections.
I mean, it exists if you want to make money in D.C.
and be a lobbyist for Lockheed Martin.
That's alive and well, but that's like 0.2% of the population.
The people that really need representation, the hardworking men and women of America, they need that American first leader.
And honestly, I wish we had a bench of 30 people to choose from, but we don't.
You know, a guy like J.D.
I've gotten to know over the last four years, just super impressed with him.
I love that he fights.
I love the way he gives it back.
I love that he doesn't accept that narrative.
I love his upbringing because it's an understanding.
You know, for me, people are like, wow, you have a grasp of these things.
And I guess, you know, I should, but like, you know, I'm the son of a billionaire from Manhattan.
Like, the fact that I get it, but most of our representatives don't is shocking to say the least.
It's shocking.
But that's the reality.
What are your thoughts on all that?
Well, let me first say on the last point, the fact that Janet Yellen yesterday came out and said, I go to the grocery store all the time.
I don't think this is outrageous.
Oh, really?
Well, OK, great.
The fact that Donald Trump
I don't know.
I know.
What is it doing to a hard-working family making $60,000 a year, Glenn?
It does not work, and yet we're still being lied to.
Janet Yellen, who's probably worth a couple hundred billion dollars, sits on all these boards.
I bet she's been to the grocery store once in the last couple of years.
Yeah, so she didn't notice anything.
I'm shocked that she didn't notice anything.
None of them notice anything in D.C.
That's the problem.
They don't notice anything.
Right, and that shows you where their thoughts are and what they're really trying to do.
You're a billionaire.
I'm not, but I'm not hurting you.
I'm the son of.
I wish I was a billionaire.
Every time that I go to the grocery store, every time I go to McDonald's, I say to whoever's in the car with me, how is the average person doing this?
You know, you recognize it because you recognize you're blessed!
Yeah.
And not everybody is this blessed, and how are they doing it?
That's the difference.
Let me go back to JD Vance.
Couldn't agree with you more.
I'd like to add one thing on the JD Vance thing.
He's also from Ohio and every state that matters really, uh, kind of like touches Ohio and he knows all of, I mean, he is that guy.
Yeah.
Um, and I think could carry the, carry the torch to where it becomes, you know, uh, a real revolution, a Trump revolution.
It only is a revolution if it continues to have legs after the leader is gone.
Yeah, and it was interesting, you know, for me, obviously I'm, you know, pretty intimately involved and I am not exactly a wallflower.
I make my opinions known rather aggressively and then I see the...
Well, you know, you see, you know, Rupert Murdoch is pushing this guy, I'm like, you mean the guy that tried to shank you for two and a half years on this during a primary?
The guy that, you know, went after the- like, you're gonna take his- like, I'm- I'm like, I'm gonna go and short literally anything that someone like that is telling me, because I see what they're- like, I'm like, wait a minute, you- so, you want to put someone who- they'll impeach Trump within seven seconds if those guys got their way, like,
Seven seconds.
He'd be sworn in, he'd be walking off the podium, his hand will have hit the Bible or just come off of it, and then they'd be like, impeachment, and, you know, they'd instill their, you know, their puppet conservative in about three seconds.
So, you know, that's why I'm so staunch on this, because I've, man,
I've just watched this game before, I don't have all these other voices in my head that I, you know, I just, it's, I listen to my gut, what I've seen with my own eyes, the actions of, you know, the people, and I'm like, this is a no-brainer to me, but, you know, again, it's not my decision, but it's, but I feel strongly about it.
Yeah, I feel the same exact way.
You know, when your dad first said, the deep state,
I had been covering, you know, what was happening in a deep state, but I never thought of it that way.
And I thought, oh man, that makes me uncomfortable because that's just conspiracy theory territory.
Your dad got it.
I mean, I had been studying it and talking about it for years.
I had no idea how deep, this is not a swamp, it's an ocean, and I had no idea how deep and dangerous that was.
You know, when your father got in and he started talking about the CIA, I'm like, what guy says this about the CIA?
Are you kidding me?
Well, remember the outrage when they were like, they're spying on my campaign?
I think they are, because this stuff's getting out.
They must be spying on my campaign.
And he was like, 100% right, and yet no accountability.
I felt the same way as you, Glenn.
Like, hey, I was, I mean, I think it's safe to say that I was the number two target of like, Russia, Russia, Russia, right?
Like, I mean, I was on the cover of Time Magazine for treason.
I had Adam Schiff saying they wanted to try me for treason, a crime punishable by death.
I mean, I don't know, I felt, you know, and I'm like,
But even when they started going after me, I was like, I must have maybe, you know, taken a selfie with someone that, you know, is an agent or something.
I take a thousand a day, but like, I don't know.
Like, I still...
Naively, I guess.
I still wanted to believe that these institutions, you know, the FBI, this is a great body of, you know, institution, you know, of law, the CIA, I mean, this got it, and I'm like, holy crap, like, I couldn't even at the time, even as a target, even as someone, and I don't want to say victim, because I fight, I'm not a victim, but like, as someone who was a target,
I was like, well, there has to be something to it.
No, there doesn't.
It's all bullshit.
They're so broken, so corrupted.
Whatever disdain you have for them at this point,
It's not enough.
That doesn't mean there's not a door kicker somewhere that's not great, and maybe even the majority of them.
But the problem is, as I see them go further down the rabbit hole, and, you know, they're not just going after me or Trump or, you know, high-level stuff.
They're going after the Amish farmer who's selling unpasteurized milk and, like, gonna destroy his life.
Crazy.
I'm like, you know what?
Like, I stop giving the door kicker the benefit of the doubt when, like, no one says something.
You know, when there's three whistleblowers that come out, and they're, you know, all of a sudden, it's the first time, you know, a whistleblower was beyond reproach if it was against Trump, but if they're doing the bidding of the FBI, or against the FBI, you know, we're gonna shut them out, they're gonna be, you know, guarding a pile of rubber dog crap in Guam.
You know, someone's gotta say something.
You don't get the pass anymore if they're trampling on our rights, our freedoms, our liberties, on a daily basis, and everyone is mum.
Everyone stays quiet.
That doesn't work anymore.
Well, let me give you another perspective on that.
I went over and I was doing a documentary on what happened to the Jews in World War II and the righteous among the nations that actually stood up for the Jews and hid them and risked their lives.
And I was sitting in a meeting with the chief rabbi of Poland.
And before we started filming, I said, because I was just, I mean, you've done this, you go to Auschwitz, you go and you do some tours, and you're like, it's so dark.
And I said to him,
I left Auschwitz, and as I was driving by churches, I was angry, and I was like, where were you?
Where were the people in this church?
You're close enough to smell it!
How did you not stand up?
And I said to him, how many righteous were there in Poland?
He said 3,000.
And I said, and how many millions lived in Poland?
And he said, what are you saying?
And I said, I can't believe it was only 3,000.
He looked at me with a completely different perspective and he said, are you kidding me?
Do you know what those 3,000 faced?
Do you know 3,000 people to stand up to that machine is a miracle.
Well, we don't think of it that way.
Yeah, that's an incredible perspective because, you know, obviously not the same gravitas, but it was, you know, I think we all learned some lessons during, you know, COVID, right?
I mean, you know, I was like, okay, like people are going to stand up to this.
No, like you just go along.
I mean, there's still people wearing masks, driving cars by themselves.
I'm like, what?
Yeah, I know.
What's wrong with you?
Literally, like, the panic and the fear, and I didn't think, you know, America, a lot of the, you know, our countries that I sort of thought were on board with us, you know, as it relates to freedom and, you know, democracy, you know, New Zealand, Australia, the UK, Ireland, all of these, you know,
What we thought of, like, as bastions of freedom, like, you see the stuff that they're putting in our neighbor to the north, Canada.
I mean, it's like a... It's literally, like, it's a dictatorial regime at this point.
Like, you have the guise of freedom, you have the illusion of free speech, unless you say something contrary to the propaganda that the government puts out, in which case, you're shut down, you're locked out, they'll debank you like they did the truckers.
I mean, like, I was like, man, COVID was the one that was like, hey, man, I thought we were so much better than that.
We're not.
Uh, obviously, not the same level of gravitas, you know, because I gotta, I gotta disclaim, I think it was clear, but I gotta disclaim it, because someone will say, oh my god, Don Jr.
said it's the same thing, because you understand how the media works.
No, and that's not what I'm saying either.
Yeah, no, of course.
I'm just saying that, you know, three people standing up against the FBI might be, you know, might be something good.
I look at that and go, come on, where are all the other FBI agents?
Why aren't you all standing up?
But, I mean, you know, when people fear for their career,
As opposed to fearing for their life, you know, they make stupid decisions and they become cowards.
Yeah, again, I hope, honestly, perhaps the number one thing we can get out of sort of, you know, the Trump era is the exposure of all of that.
Like, that people understand, you know, that, you know, I'm not fighting to preserve, you know, America as we know it.
I'm actually fighting to create what I thought it was, but it wasn't.
Does that make sense?
Yes.
You know, I'm fighting to create an America that doesn't actually exist.
It only exists, you know, in ideas.
You hear that with the Democrats, you know, when they throw around democracy.
I mean, it's like a joke cocktail party soundbite.
Like, we're going to use the word democracy a bunch of times to really get these morons who we're suppressing, who we're censoring, who we're jailing, to really think that we live in a democracy when we live in like, you know, what's bordering into a dystopian nightmare with the lawfare and everything else that we've seen.
And not just against my father.
Against ordinary Americans, you know, some of whom we've listed, the J6ers, you know, you compare the disparate treatment to them and the people of, you know, the 2020 Summer of Love riots, and you start saying, man, we don't live in the country we thought we lived in.
No.
And I have to tell you, I think it's the Martin Luther King, I Have a Dream speech.
He talks about the Declaration of Independence.
And America, you're not living up to that.
You haven't lived up to that.
That's our highest goal.
And we're not going to make it necessarily, but we should be striving to that.
We're not even striving.
We don't recognize it.
Nobody in office recognizes our documents anymore.
And what we should be, America is an idea.
It will never achieve the idea, because it's the greatest idea of mankind.
So that's why they're distancing themselves from Martin Luther King as well.
You can't have, you can't say, look, this is worth striving for, and we should live up to our own laws and our own ideals.
They don't believe in those things anymore.
Well, I mean, I've heard you talk about this a bunch.
You know, as much as Democrats really talk about wealth inequality, the wealthiest have gotten far wealthier.
The middle class is shrinking, getting crushed.
The poor are getting poorer under left-wing rule, and frankly, we're driving their wages down even more by importing, you know, 10 to 15 million, you know, workers who are probably never going to report their income, but are going to still be, you know, a fairly significant drain on our infrastructure, whether it's healthcare, education, or otherwise.
You know, how do they fit that square into the circle hole?
It doesn't seem to work for me.
It doesn't, and I think that's why they're... I think the jig is up soon for the Democrats.
I think, you know, if we can get Donald Trump in, you know, then we won't face absolute disaster.
But I hope people wake up fast enough, because it's all coming undone.
You're seeing the results of it.
And what are the results?
You want to look at, you know, the rich getting richer.
Okay, so redistribution of wealth.
That's what all the Marxists and, you know, the progressives want.
Redistribution of wealth.
Except that's exactly what's happening in exactly the same way every socialist or communist or authoritarian nation redistributes wealth.
It goes to the big guys, the big corporations, those with favor, and it's taken from the poor.
Yeah, there's a reason Starbucks was a critical business, but the coffee shop that was just a mom-and-pop shop, a catty corner to it, wasn't.
They don't have the lobbyists doing their bidding.
It's why, you know, Joe Biden, I mean, the policies, I mean, he's literally just trying to buy votes, like, hey, we're gonna absolve your student loan debt, we're gonna take your underwater, you know, degree, you know,
I guess underwater basket weaving doctorate degree.
And we're going to make a plumber who didn't take that on pay for it.
And you know, you'll vote for us reliably and continue to do so forever.
It doesn't feel sustainable, but you know, you see all these people talking about, all right, you know, I made a terrible decision for myself.
I took on half a million dollars in debt to get a degree that could never possibly pay out.
And I guess like everything else with Democrat policy, there's just, there's no accountability to people's actions.
So they're just encouraged to make the same mistakes over, but it feels like we're running out of money at 34 trillion in debt.
Yeah, I think so.
I think so.
And I know your dad doesn't believe in the dangers of debt, I mean, probably at this level, but he has a better understanding of healthy debt if it's going to grow, but we're not growing.
Tell me, Don, what have we purchased that we can look at and go, yeah, but we have that.
Yeah, but we just built that.
Yeah.
We're real estate guys.
The little Gaza dock?
Yeah, we use debt.
Yeah, well, I talked about it in my intro for this show.
I mean, Joe Biden promised in the debates in 2020, they were going to build half a million EV charging stations.
They've built seven.
Seven.
Not 7,000.
It was six.
No, no.
Yeah, they built one just last week.
They're doing wonderful.
At this rate, they'll get to half a million by, you know, 2341.
It's great progress.
It's lunacy, but they keep getting away with it.
So, you know, I guess we just have to keep getting that message out there and make sure that people understand it.
But, like, it's shocking to me how few people don't get it.
And what's really strange is you look at the sort of the demographics of the voters.
It's sort of like the old white guys that don't actually get it.
They're like, ah, it's fine.
The people who aren't actually affected by the policies sort of maintain all of this insanity.
If you want to know how this ends, I encourage you to read Rudyard Kipling's poem, The Gods of the Copybook Headings.
He wrote it right after the Fabian Socialists took us to World War I. And it is step by step
Exactly what has been happening.
And we're entering the last phase.
And he wrote it as a warning to future generations.
When you start hearing these things, don't go.
Don't go there.
Because this is how it ends.
And we're entering the last phase of that poem.
Well, I'm going to have to check that one out.
I know we're going to get ready for sort of debate time.
So, you know, final thoughts on the debate for the audience tonight, Glenn.
May God save the Republic.
I hope your dad can
Can just resist the natural urge to just punch him in the face.
It's hard to turn that one off, right?
You can't teach an old dog new tricks.
You know, he said to me, you know what he said to me about you guys?
The next time I saw him, I asked him, how you doing?
He said, they've come after my children.
And I sat there and I thought, that's exactly how I would feel.
Exactly how I would feel.
And so, I mean, he's had amazing restraint, but we are in, we're in a horse race that is, he's about to break loose and win by lengths, not a nose, if he can just
Show that he's not a vengeful guy and he doesn't even take them serious, nor should anyone else, because look at the results!
Yeah.
No, I love his line is, you know, my revenge is going to be America's success.
You know?
I love that.
Success for our country.
That's, that's my, that's all I need.
And I, you know, I honestly, and I,
I know he actually believes it, because he says it to me when we're not on air, when we're behind the scenes.
He just wants the country to be successful, so I think it's a great message.
And Glenn, I just really want to thank you for the time, and thanks for all you're doing, and I'm sure I'll see you probably at the RNC in a couple of weeks, so we'll have a good time there, too.
Yeah.
It won't be like Chicago, I'm guessing.
Well, I don't know.
I imagine it'll be interesting.
I imagine all the peaceful protesters that the Democrats love to talk about will be out in full force.
So it'll be fun, but this is what we train for.
Yep.
Thank you.
God bless.
Great to see you, man.
Thanks a lot.
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