The Process is the Punishment: Evidence Tampering, Lies, and the Boxes Hoax, Live with Reporter Julie Kelly | TRIGGERED Ep.134
The Process is the Punishment: Evidence Tampering, Lies, and the Boxes Hoax, Live with Reporter Julie Kelly | TRIGGERED Ep.134
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Julie has become one of the best investigative reporters in the country.
One of the few people looking to get into the details for the stuff that so many on the mainstream media side, especially even and even conservative mainstream media, have been ignoring.
Whether it's uncovering corruption in the January 6th prosecutions, inside Jack Smith's office, down in Fulton County,
In New York and everywhere in between, Julie has time and time again uncovered the biggest stories that the rest of the media apparently don't want you to know about.
The stories that I have a feeling, if they were happening against a liberal,
President, or former president, who's the leading candidate of a party, they'd be covering ad nauseam.
All of this stuff has been conveniently neglected.
When they neglect things these days, you understand that there is a reason for it.
This is an interview I've been looking forward to for a long time because it feels like every time I cover another piece of corruption, another strike against Jack Smith, Alvin Bragg, Letitia James,
Fannie Willis, any one of these corrupt liberal clowns, it seems like...
Julie is the basis for all of that information.
So we have a lot of ground to cover today.
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And now with that, folks, let's take a look at some of the top headlines.
First, we gotta talk about Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
because I see just how much they're trying to push him as this conservative alternative.
Many people
So-called in the conservative media have been giving him a very big platform.
They're probably never Trumpers.
I think that's unfortunate, but also not surprising.
They're giving him softball interviews, but many are now waking up to realize, as I've been saying here for months, that he's actually competing with Joe Biden for who is further to the left, which is truly saying something.
RFK Jr.
went viral this weekend for all of the wrong reasons.
Look at this video.
Where it says he doesn't know.
He doesn't know.
He doesn't know whether to say sex change operations for minors should be illegal.
He doesn't know, folks.
As a president, to get this nonsense out, to prevent kids under the age of 18, with or without the consent of the father, to transition, you may even say that is an okay policy you're a part of that many families disagree with.
One, what's your position on this, and what will you do as a president?
I mean, my position is that people should not be able to have access to those procedures, that minors shouldn't, without parental permission.
You know, I don't know enough about it, Patrick, to say that it should be completely illegal.
Under 18?
No, no.
Yeah, I just don't know enough.
He doesn't know enough?
Really?
Like, come on!
You don't know enough?
Hey, should a three-year-old make a permanent life-altering decision and be on meds for the rest of their lives?
I don't know.
I'm pretty conservative.
Give me a break.
Just like every other policy that he's had, people are like, no, look at what he said three days ago about XYZ.
It sounds kind of conservative.
I go, but he's got a 40-year track record of doing the opposite.
Every policy, whether it's the radical environmental stuff, whether it was gun stuff, whether it was open borders, it's like six months ago he changed his mind entirely.
We need to be honest about who this guy is.
He is a leftist.
His record is that of a hardcore Democrat.
For starters, RFK Jr.
attacked the border wall and mass deportations in 2017.
This headline, for example, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., UFW leader, denounce, they denounce Trump's plans for a border wall and deportations.
When it counted, RFK Jr.
was America last.
He's been that way for a very long time.
But now, we can change our entire policy.
It's almost like it's yet another PSYOP, folks.
I'm shocked!
Shocked to see this.
He started magically appearing in my social media feeds from people I don't follow, uh, about, you know, a year ago, and it was all conservative stuff.
And yet, if you actually look into the record, and let's just remember, he's an actual Kennedy, it's not like they haven't been political for a long time.
It's not like he didn't talk on these subjects.
You don't change your entire worldview in a matter of a few weeks.
Unless, of course, you're doing the bidding of the Democrat Party.
This is just scratching the surface, though, folks.
Have you seen how he talks about Republicans?
He thinks we're murderers!
You live in a red state and you're gonna get murdered?
Wow!
You should really go to some blue states, in some really blue cities, and see how that fares.
I live in a red state, in a red county, and I feel like the safest human being in the world.
But people who own guns...
You know, in the red states, they're gonna murder you.
It doesn't actually happen statistically, it happens in blue cities with illegal guns by criminal thugs and the immigrants that Joe Biden and RFK Jr.
would gladly let into the country because they disagree with the border wall, but you know, minor details.
Who's gonna let the facts get in the way of a good story, folks?
And by the way, if you would disagree with him, RFK thinks
He should be able to put you in prison.
Hmm.
Who else does that sound like?
I'm trying to think.
Well, we'll get to that more shortly with Julie Kelly when we talk about the gag orders against my father.
Okay?
RFK Jr.
thinks you should be able to put in prison if you disagree with him.
Just a few years ago, as part of his radical environmental craziness, RFK said that he wishes it was illegal.
To say, global warming doesn't exist.
Hear for yourself.
I think they should be enjoying three hots and a cot at the Hague with all the other war criminals who are there.
What about politicians, people who deny, who express skepticism?
I think they're selling out the public trust.
And, you know, I think those guys who are doing the Koch brothers bidding and who are against all the evidence of the rational mind
...are saying that global warming doesn't exist, that they are contemptible human beings, and that, you know, I wish that you could punish them under.
Oh yeah, he sounds like a conservative, but of course, I'm sure he's changed his mind on that 100%.
Again, that kind of radical thought process doesn't just magically change unless you're doing someone else's bidding.
So he thinks Republicans are murderers and we should be put in prison for disagreeing with some of his radical environmental policy.
Okay, just so we're clear, I don't remember what the exact stat was, but I looked it up a while ago.
In- since we've been measuring climate change, I think the average mean temperature difference is literally like 0.2 degrees.
0.2, not 2 degrees.
0.2 degrees over like a 75 or 80 year period.
0.2.
Like...
Well within any standard of deviation in basic statistics, and yet he thinks you should be put in prison for disagreeing with his wacky, whether it's subsidies or insanity, of which China is laughing and making most of the money, while destroying American jobs and our middle class.
He's a wacko.
Finally,
Finally, because there's actually a lot more.
This is finally for tonight, but we got Julie in studio.
We gotta actually start talking.
But like, you know, this is one of many, but for example, it doesn't feel like he's quite the conservative that even, you know, some of those in conservative media are pretending.
Yeah, he's anti-vax.
That's like the one thing.
That doesn't seem like enough when we're talking about our economy, radical environmental policy, jailing people for free speech, guns, borders, you know.
I don't know.
To me, I think that matters a lot more.
Because even if you disagree with the vaccine, what was really nice about Donald Trump is he said, it's up to you.
You don't have to do any of these things.
Finally, here's the cherry on top, folks.
In August of 2016, the choices were Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump for president.
Out of curiosity, what side did RFK Jr.
take
Well, folks, he was with her.
Are you solidly for Hillary or are you more anti-Trump?
Oh, I'm solidly for Hillary.
I think Hillary is going to be a very, very good president.
So he's with Hillary.
Just so we understand, in a few years, in a few short years, he's now
Not a Democrat.
Like, if you were with Hillary, you're a hardcore Democrat.
You don't just change.
Again, you don't just change your entire political ethos in a couple of years either.
And that doesn't happen.
You can change on one or two points.
I've seen that happen myself.
If you're a political family, if you've made your life speaking about these things, you don't just change.
So if you're an extreme leftist, you actually have a choice to make about who is more in line with your views.
Joe Biden or RFK Jr.
It's that simple.
I guess it's nice to have options.
But if you're a conservative that believes in anything that you believe in as the conservative side of things,
He ain't it, folks.
In other news, we're getting more details on the Democrats' legal warfare, the lawfare, against my father.
It turns out that Matthew Colangelo, the former Biden DOJ official, the number three person in Joe Biden's DOJ that is leading Alvin Bragg's prosecution, was paid by the DNC.
In 2018, for political consulting.
I'm shocked!
He's the number three person in Biden's GOJ.
He then does a lot of political consulting for the DNC.
Magically, he's transferred by total coincidence, folks.
We're to believe that it's a total coincidence.
He's sent to Alvin Bragg's office after Bragg decided not to prosecute
My father, for these things, after the former DA and many others decided not to prosecute him, not exactly Trump lovers, you know, at the FEC, the Federal Elections Commission, or Cy Vance, the prior DA.
No, no, no.
Even Alvin Bragg says no.
Number three guy, Biden's GOJ, former DNC consultant, moves to New York, and all of a sudden, they're prosecuting your favorite president, Donald Trump.
Well, your favorite president, except for a couple of the haters in the live chat, but that's fine.
We love the haters too.
Even they are probably not dumb enough to vote for Joe Biden at this point.
So we're clear, guys.
A Democrat political consultant is leading the prosecution in a courtroom run by a Joe Biden donor.
The judge, yes.
The judge is a Joe Biden donor.
His daughter makes millions fundraising for Democrats.
I believe she runs the marketing campaign for Adam Schiff and his Senate run and others.
Tell me again how that's fair, because I actually can't think of a way.
But in the People's Republic of New York, who cares?
It doesn't matter.
Don't forget,
Again, the judge's daughter makes millions consulting for prominent Democrats and has all the financial interest in the world in the continuation of this lawfare.
If her father were to throw out this case, his daughter loses lots of money.
By law in New York, not just basic ethical standards like the minimal ethical standards you could even imagine.
You know, in a non-banana republic.
But by law, that means the judge actually has to recuse himself in the state of New York.
But...
Of course, folks, those laws do not apply to Democrats, especially when they're going after Donald Trump.
Why would they?
They have precedent that Democrats don't have to follow the law.
And of course, it doesn't stop there, as Jack Smith's team is now being forced to come forward to admit to evidence tampering.
Evidence tampering in the classified documents case.
You know, the walls are closing in.
They've got him now.
He's a president that can declassify his things and he took a couple of boxes of his paperwork home but we want to throw him in jail for like 700 years and maybe the death penalty because, you know, mean tweets and all.
I mean, you can't make this up.
I'm sure Julie will have a lot of commentary on this one shortly.
So, according to reports, Smith's team said that the order of documents in some of the boxes of memos that were seized by the FBI from my father's Mar-a-Lago estate was altered or jumbled.
Huh.
Interesting.
Leaving two different chronologies.
One that was digitally scanned, and another that
The physical order of the boxes, okay?
Now, that's basically their way of saying, evidence was tampered, it was moved around, probably to get a result that was convenient, you know, like the photo of all the classified documents that was leaked within 20 minutes and was on the cover of the front page of the Washington Post.
Like, you know, because, you know, of course classified documents are going to end up on the cover of the Washington Post.
It's just a little different.
So, we're gonna get into all of that with Julie Kelly and much, much more shortly.
But, meanwhile, the left's corruption is hitting every corner of the country.
Even infrastructure.
I'm shocked.
For example, in California, they're celebrating the construction of a tiny section of the $100 billion high-speed rail project that they are never going to finish.
That's been in limbo for literally 15 years.
That's the left for you.
They'd rather spend a hundred billion.
on high-speed rail to nowhere that will never get built than 10 billion on a border wall that would get built, that would stop the scourge of fentanyl streaming into our country, human trafficking, sex trafficking, child trafficking, and others, you know, because I'm sure everyone's thrilled about letting all the Venezuelan gang members into a country, but I don't know.
Seems like it'd be a small price to pay, but not if you're not a Democrat and on the take, so it's a problem.
And speaking of transportation, we have to mention the madness we've seen at Boeing.
Elon Musk is even calling them out right now.
SpaceX is outperforming Boeing on developing an astronaut capsule.
And as far as we know, the doors aren't flying off of SpaceX's aircrafts.
I sent out a tweet replying to Elon being like, hey listen,
Elon out here casually risking his life by criticizing Boeing, they're approaching Hillary levels of suiciding.
Of course I'm doing this as a joke, they'll sue me for saying it, even though magically two of the whistleblowers that came public that were going to talk about the DEI nonsense going on at Boeing and all of the insanity happening there, two of their whistleblowers magically just died.
In the past, like, three weeks.
That doesn't happen unless you have dirt on the Clintons, right?
Where they have literally more friends and family and loved ones that have committed suicide in, like, one degree of separation than literally any human being in the history of this world or suicide.
But, I digress.
Of course, all of these big disasters are why big tech has to work overtime to protect Joe Biden and the Democrats.
For example, Google is still censoring.
That shouldn't surprise anyone.
On Friday, they blocked an ad from the pro-Trump super PAC, MAGA, Inc.
The ad is back up after people called out Google for its censorship and election interference.
Check out the ad.
You'll see why Google wanted to hide this from voters.
Hello.
I'm with the Biden campaign.
Yeah, yeah.
I voted for Biden last time.
That's fantastic.
Is it?
Everything costs more.
Food, gas, rent.
Okay, but Biden's helping pay rent for newcomers to America from around the world.
You mean illegal immigrants?
I'm struggling to pay my bills, but Biden's paying rent for illegals?
They get handouts and I'm paying for it.
But Biden can still count on your vote, right?
Things were better before Biden.
I'm voting for Trump.
In non-political news, folks, Netflix hosted the roast of Tom Brady last night, and my good friend Dana White, he's been on the show, had a great moment calling out Netflix, calling out their insanity.
Check it out.
Actually, let me get into this real quick.
It pisses me off.
I flew all the way out here, and you guys give me 60 seconds?
My name is Dana.
Is that not trans enough for you liberal fucks?
I mean, he makes a solid point.
I mean, you know, you would think that if he was actually trans, if Dana came out as trans, they'd probably give him 25 minutes.
But you give, you know, one of the biggest guys out there, you know, the leader of one of the most popular and growing sports literally anywhere in the world, you know,
You're gonna invite him to a Rose- You're gonna give him 60 seconds to Rose Town Brady?
Doesn't seem right, but again, I have a feeling if you were a liberal activist that was actually trans, you'd probably get 20 to 25 minutes because, you know, couldn't hurt their feelings giving them any less time.
So it actually feels, guys, like there's a culture change.
People are becoming less woke.
They're not afraid to call out these clowns to their faces, in their homes, in their backyards.
For example,
I attended the F1 race in Miami yesterday with my father.
Formula One Miami, it was amazing, and it was a great time.
And guess what?
The USA Chance, they were there.
My father went out onto the, you know, into the pits.
He was there.
He went and saw actually the winning team right before the race even started, met with them, and literally the guy then goes and wins.
In fact,
They crushed it.
They didn't even know that they were gonna win.
It's been a little while for them, and the McLaren team ends up in winning, so it's a big deal.
Here's a video of that event.
Just an absolute blast happening right here in the free state of Florida.
Check it out.
Yeah.
...joining me now, in studio, in person, uh, my hero.
You know, because you're actually, you know, hey listen, if it wasn't for people like Julie Kelly, like, these guys may get their way.
They may still, right?
There's a, there's a reason they're picking the venues they're picking, right?
There's a reason they're picking the DAs.
They could go to other places, but they understand that.
So, if it wasn't for you, Julie, out there right now, you know, I think some of the nonsense would just, they'd get away with it.
Um, you know, what are some of the, I mean, what are the big level things?
We'll get into the details.
You know, you've been breaking a lot of the stories.
I mean, it started off, I know, uh, you were back on the show when we were at CPAC, which I think was like one of my, like, third or fourth show, and you were the person finding out, like, the J6 stuff.
Uh, you know, what made you keep going down these rabbit holes, and why is no one else in media even touching it?
I'll tell you what, Don.
As far as the January 6th prosecution, so right now more than 1,400 January 6th protesters have been arrested, charged, and prosecuted.
They are amazingly, believe it or not, the Department of Justice continuing to round up and arrest individuals almost on a daily basis this year.
And so, of course, that's what I started following in the pretrial detention and the excessive charges.
And now we have one of the main felonies that is before the Supreme Court that could be reversed.
So that kind of was my entree into this.
And then, of course, following Jack Smith, the two criminal indictments against your father in Southern Florida and, of course, Washington, D.C.
And just following all the court proceedings as much as I could.
I don't know.
Showed early to the Biden White House their involvement in the Jack Smith case.
I think we've seen similar developments in Fannie Willis where, you know, magically a lawyer that's never even looked at this kind of case is getting paid exorbitant money from the taxpayer, you know, happens to be going on vacations with his boss, you know, totally normal stuff.
Can you explain a
You know, I mean, how can they be, do they just expect to get away with it?
How do they think they can just do that?
Are they just, you know, I guess no one else in the media is covering, including like, you know, I see your stuff get covered occasionally.
Of course, you don't get credit for that because, you know, you like me are really radical.
We call out BS on both sides.
So, you know, they don't put us on Fox News like they used to anymore.
But how is that going on?
Well, I'll tell you, I think with the classified documents case, if you weren't following it from the very beginning, and you know, I followed what was happening in the special master case when your father filed the lawsuit a few weeks after the FBI raid asking for this third-party special master, and Judge Aileen Cannon appointed one and basically said in her order in September of 2022,
I don't trust the Department of Justice.
You're already leaking information to the media.
You're already mishandling privileged material.
So I am going to appoint a special master.
Well, this is what landed her on the target list by the media.
So trying to catch up with what's been happening there is tough.
But what has been revealed now, what you were just saying in the intro, is now hard evidence of
The FBI agents are the ones who attached those cover sheets that said the level of classification.
How the media portrayed it and how DOJ portrayed it.
They were just lying around, you know?
I mean, everyone was taking pictures of it.
It made it sound like that was the condition in which those documents were found.
Well, now we know that the agents were actually attaching those cover sheets, took the photograph, attached it to an exhibit in response to your father's lawsuit, and that's how that photo went viral.
But it completely misrepresented how those documents, the condition of those documents, and the DOJ misrepresenting
That sort of evidence to the court, which Judge Cannon will not take lightly.
Okay, but will anything actually happen to Jack Smith?
Okay, so if you take Jack Smith, we spoke about it last week with Rick Grinnell.
I mean, you know, because of his work over in Europe and at the UN and, you know, Serbia.
He has a long history of sort of, let's call it, trumping up charges against his political opposition.
Will he ever face any accountability or is he just gonna be protected by the same DOJ that allowed this to happen in the first place?
Honestly, when your father wins, there has to be, and I just tweeted this again yesterday, not only Jack Smith, but the D.C.
U.S.
Attorney's Office who continues to run up and arrest January Sixers.
But the point with Jack Smith, is he getting away with it?
Well, of course he is in Washington D.C.
with Judge Tanya Chutkan.
He was getting away with all of that.
Now, he's not with Judge Cannon, and there are now motions, and I believe your father has one, but I know his co-defendants have one.
Outlining prosecutorial abuse, this is part of it, but also threats made to Walt Nauda's attorney, Stanley Woodward, and so there are extensive evidence of prosecutorial abuse, and Judge Cannon is very tough on Jack Smith and his team, and she continues to do that, and so we'll see these new revelations, the motion to, about prosecutorial abuse, the motion to dismiss for selective vindictive prosecution that your father and his co-defendants have filed.
So, there's a lot happening in that case, and people can go to my sub stack to check that out.
All of my reporting, I have a new piece up today about what happened with the FBI photo.
Yeah, talk about that.
I mean, the details of that.
Because again, honestly, give us a full chronology.
Because again, I think even me...
Like, and it's my dad.
I'm like, wait a minute, you miss it, because again, if it's not, so they should check out your sub stack, because I'm shocked that, or I guess I shouldn't be shocked, but even the conservative side of media, it's there, it's all available, but they're not going all in on something like this.
If this was a Democrat, against a Democrat president, if this was Trump doing it to Biden or Obama before him,
Rachel Maddow would talk about this thing 24-7, 365, for 15 years.
It would be the only talking point of the left.
It wouldn't matter.
They'd run elections around it.
And honestly, I don't see the biggest names in conservative
Oh, he's a bad guy.
It's like, wait a minute.
It's not like it's one thing that's an error.
It's a repeated, and I don't believe in coincidence anymore, right?
Just one after the other after the other, and it's like, well, if they get away with one, then it's just a snowball effect.
Take us through the whole thing so that people who, again, these are people that follow it, they watch this, I talk about these things, but I don't think anyone fully understands the level of insanity and just how bad it actually is.
This makes the Banana Republic seem like they're functioning republics and democracies.
It really does.
And what happened in the Classified Documents case, and what we now know, and I actually have a piece on Real Clear Investigations that gives this entire timeline of 2021.
So as you know, Don... Three years ago.
Right.
And this is when it started.
And it's just coming out now.
We're good to go.
We now know that the DOJ, the archives, and the Biden White House, including his counsel Dana Remus, his deputy counsel Jonathan Suh, were in cahoots with the archives to concoct some sort of documents case way before, months before your father turned over those boxes to the archives.
What they initially looked like they were doing was creating a document destruction case against your father.
That is what these emails that the defense attorneys in the case have uncovered.
They also had to FOIA some of the agencies because they weren't getting this in discovery.
So this is what they pieced together, is that the story, and even Jack Smith's own indictment, is not truthful in terms of how this investigation started and then got underway after the indictments in the summer of 2023.
So given that extent, I mean, you know, Ken, if they find him guilty in the Cannon case, right?
Because I'm not expecting anything to happen in the DC case, right?
Because like, of course not, right?
It was DC for a reason.
The Cannon case is in Florida.
You've been covering it here, you know, personally, but even for that,
The grand jury was held in Washington, D.C.
I've never even heard of that, by the way.
I thought it was always a locals game, grand jury or not.
So you pick a grand jury because you know you get the result you want.
In Florida, you may not have gotten it.
They were forced to do the rest of it here just because geographically it was that, but you could see it.
Then they drew a judge that wasn't their chosen judge.
There's outrage in the process, but no outrage about any of these steps.
If something happens in Florida,
No, but I want to pick up on what you're saying because this could be the next set of revelations coming out of Judge Cannon's courtroom.
You know that she is on this unsealing, unredacted crusade.
She wants the American people
To know how dirty this case is.
And she knows it.
So this is why she continues to authorize the unsealing of all of these documents.
What looks like we might see next?
The grand jury materials to your point.
99% of this investigation took place in the Trump-hating cauldron of the Washington, D.C.
federal courthouse.
They got Judge Beryl Howell, the ex-chief judge.
She signed off on all of the subpoenas, including the one that pierced attorney-client privilege between your father and Evan Corcoran to get all of his communications.
That's why they held the investigation in DC.
A former president going, you know, in a clearly political investigation doesn't even have the basic right of attorney-client privilege.
Again,
Just to frame how ridiculous this is, you get another talking point, right?
It's the one I don't even cover, right?
Well, in New York, I got, you know, the judge's daughter's making millions.
You can't have the degrees.
He's a Democrat donor.
I mean, it's just example after example.
You know, the FEC, Cy Vance, Alvin Bragg, none of them chose to prosecute it.
Joe Biden's number three guy at the DOJ.
They move him to New York.
There's all sorts of meetings.
Then all of a sudden, they're doing it again.
I mean, in America in 2024, if you're a Republican or a Trump-like figure,
How do you get a fair trial?
It's hard to believe.
It's literally, for any other person, one of these things alone.
would be sort of a deal breaker.
That's it.
It's over.
He could have... There's 35 of these... You can't even say coincidence.
It's just like flagrant violations of basic norms, ethical standards.
And it's like, it doesn't matter.
Proceed.
You can deal with that later on in appeals.
You know, after you spend six months in a courtroom or after you spend a hundred million dollars in legal fees, it's almost like it's designed to break you even if they lose and you win.
Well, look at what happened in Washington with Judge Tanya Chudkin, the Obama appointee assigned to this case.
She set a record-breaking seven-month schedule between indictment and trial.
Don, even the Proud Boys, the high-profile trials, took more than two years before they actually went before a jury.
So she set that.
Then she imposed the gag order.
Her gag order was so egregious and so broad that the appellate court in Washington actually had to pare it down because it was so wide-ranging.
And then what did she do?
Tanya Chutkin, within two months, issues an unprecedented history-making order that claims for the first time a former president is not immune from criminal prosecution from his successor.
So this is the sort of
How many of these things were all set ups?
How many of these things sort of had that
You know, preordain, hey, we're going to get together to work this, to then construct this legal theory.
Most of these legal theories are just being tested for the first time.
Again, in D.C., even the stuff in the Supreme Court, you see the pressure they put on it.
You see the media pressure.
You see the way the Democrats are doing it.
Then they're protesting in front.
You know, if I did that to Ruth Bader Ginsburg, I'd be in jail.
But like, if you do it to the conservative justices, it's just fine.
You know, maybe we can get them to take a, you know, split the baby approach.
Because, you know, candidly, the conservatives and some of the justices there, you know, have not been, you know, as strong or as ardent or fervent as the liberal justices on the court.
Well, and that's why I think the oral arguments for both obstruction of an official proceeding, 1512c2, more than 350 now J6ers charged with that felony.
It represents half, two of the four counts in Jack Smith's indictment against your father in Washington.
That very likely is going to be reversed.
So on its head, if that is reversed, it really eviscerates Jack Smith's indictment.
So then what do you have left?
Two really vague conspiracy charges.
This is why the outrage from the Andrew Weissmans of the world saying,
Well, now they're saying that a president can kill someone and then he'll be immune.
But these are not even serious laws.
And this is something that I believe it was Justice Gorsuch brought up in the immunity issue related to obstruction, saying, but wait a second, these are really vague statutes.
They've never been applied this way.
The language could be interpreted in any way.
Conspiracy and obstruction that you could apply to a president for anything.
Yeah, it's like, well, it's a crime because it's a crime.
Right.
I was reading it and I was like, it doesn't make sense.
Well, how can it be a crime to replace your acting Attorney General with someone else that's completely within the purview of presidential power and authority?
How is that a crime, even obstruction?
I mean, if you're the president, you can
Hire and fire your Attorney General every day, if you want to, and get an acting one.
So, this is the sort of thing.
So, Jack Smith, actually, you'll be very lucky that that case, I mean, you would go to trial, D.C.
jury.
DOJ has a 100% conviction rate against January 6th defendants before a D.C.
jury.
It's not a single January 6th defendant, more than 130-some-odd trials now.
Not one has walked out of a D.C.
courthouse after a jury trial fully exonerated.
They have a 100% conviction rate.
Think if I would say, I mean, and when I see the numbers, I mean, did you ever do like a breakdown of the statistics?
You know?
And again, the charges were all trumped up for the January Sixers anyway, but let's just assume, you know, you know, whatever it was, offense.
XYZ offense if you were a J-Sixer versus the punishment for if you were a non-J-Sixer for the same thing in the same area.
Is there a number, like,
How much more severe, uh, it was relative, you know, to the J6?
Because I'm looking at years like, he shook a fence, that's 17 years.
I'm saying, like, what?
Like, that shouldn't be, like, you know, that's a hundred dollar fine at best if you can figure out how to do it, but it didn't matter.
They're getting
Decades for basic stuff.
It's like people who weren't there, well they sent an email saying, oh great, have fun.
But now that is considered the shaking of the fence.
Judge Tim Kelly has now designated that an act of domestic terror.
But it's not an act of domestic terror if you're a summer of love riot or burning down a Target, right?
That's a little different because that's for social justice?
Well, I think the closest comparison that we've looked at is the Lafayette Square riots right outside of the White House that forced, of course, your father and family to be rushed to security, to a secure location.
How many Secret Service agents were hurt, like actually hurt?
Federal law enforcement officers.
And this went on for weeks, not just a few hours.
Yes, federal police officers, Park Police, Secret Service were injured.
The riots went on for weeks.
How many of those people even saw prison?
None.
Just so we understand where we're at, right?
So if you shook a fence at J6, shook a fence, nothing else, you didn't even go in the Capitol, you could get 17 years in prison.
If you physically assaulted a Secret Service agent, and again, they're held to a different standard as federal law enforcement, they're also guarding protectees, it's a whole different level.
Not a single person saw a moment of jail time.
Not for assaulting police, not, in fact,
All of the 2020 Lafayette Square, Washington, D.C.
rioters, same thing.
Federal officers, federal property, which is Lafayette Square, trying to scale the White House fence to get into the White House.
All of those rioters, their charges were dropped.
I think there's a handful.
We're good to go.
To help those people who are awaiting sentencing or are in jail now.
They took years of people's lives for something that should at worst be a misdemeanor offense.
They make it seem like everyone was punching cops.
None of that happened.
We've seen the exculpatory video.
Hopefully we'll see more about that.
But it feels like there's so much more that's been hidden.
They hid the exculpatory evidence for so long, should almost give everyone a clean slate.
And at this point, the people who have been in jail for three and a half years, without due process, without the basic things and the basic tenets of the American justice system, I mean, you think not only should they be released, but rewarded a lot of cash.
I hope so.
I mean, I do hope, especially when some of these charges, we already have another charge, an enhancement, that's been reversed by the appellate court.
So if the Supreme Court comes back with the obstruction, I really do hope that there are lawsuits filed and even criminal charges against lead prosecutor and line prosecutors for what they've done, and on, most importantly, exposing the judges who allowed this to happen.
The government gets away with nothing without the help of the judges, and the judges in Washington, D.C.
have
signed on to all of this abuse, they also have to be held accountable for what they've done.
Yeah, and I've noticed that it's sort of strange.
They all sort of end up in front of the same ones who are also by far the most radical, who are also by far the most lenient to, let's call it, anyone that would be a leftist agitator.
Again, none of that seems coincidental.
How do we figure out just how pre-baked all of that is?
Because again, having gone through it myself, I used to believe in these systems and they're wonderful and it works itself out.
It's like, that's bullshit.
There's not even a pretense of objectivity or honesty in any of these people.
But how do you get that out?
That you can actually put an end to it?
Just for the Republic, for its future,
You have to, because I don't think, you go through this, I don't care if you're left, right, center, indifferent, you can't look at this and be like, the system is where, you may be fine with the results, because you just hate Donald Trump so much, if he ends up in jail, you're fine, but like, you can't be like, oh crap, if it happened to me, I'm gonna be fine.
Well, I mean, I think when your father wins, they have to open a full-blown investigation and look at all the correspondence between the D.C.
U.S.
Attorney's Office, Maine Justice, these judges, and find out exactly what was happening, what has been happening behind the scenes, and who was responsible for bringing these excessive charges, these abusive prison sentences, domestic terror enhancements.
Brett Bozell.
Yep.
Brett Bozell's son.
...was convicted at a bench trial by George W. Bush appointee.
The DOJ is asking for 10 years in prison for Brent Bozell IV, Brent Bozell's son.
He didn't try to murder a police officer.
He didn't do anything egregious.
Did he engage in some misconduct?
Yes, he did.
But 10 years, including a terrorism enhancement to his sentence?
I mean this is, now we know why this is so excessive against him.
Brent does some incredible work as a conservative and you know you can get into the details he's one of the people publishing these stuff he calls out the sort of the mainstream press in all of that so it doesn't surprise me at all because they've sort of shown hey if you play ball you're on our side you know it's all election rigging basically right we're just like hey as long as you vote for us you donate to us you know it's like the it's the New York Letitia James case
You know, listen, if you donate to my campaign, maybe I won't decide to prosecute you for a billion dollars, you know, years after the fact when there's no victim and no one actually complaining other than, hey, I campaigned on, I'm going to do this.
And if I do that in New York, I probably raised some campaign cash just by being the person that goes after Donald Trump.
I mean, yes, and that's a lot of the political motivation in Washington, as you know.
I mean, even judges that your father, who your father appointed, they are some of the worst, most abusive judges.
And I think it is, in a way, as we've seen, to distance, you know, in Washington, D.C., the Beltway.
Yeah, it's an easy existence if you're weak.
I mean, you can be a conservative in D.C., but if you fold on, you know, well, okay, we'll give you some gun control, you know, well, okay, we'll go light on an issue that's sort of, you know, a bellwether issue in your home district.
As long as you're, you could be like 90% conservative, as long as you're a reliable flip in D.C., you can get away with a lot, and that's a shame.
Julia, I gotta ask you.
We've pointed out, you know, the Biden DOJ appears to continue to lie about the death of Brian Swicknick, one of the, you know, Capitol Hill police officers.
I guess he died of a heart attack later on or something like that.
And there was, I think, issues before.
I won't get into the details because I'll probably get sued anyway.
What did you find about that because it feels like they're rewriting the history, you know, they gave no credence to, you know, Officer David Dorn, you know, killed by, again, Summer of Love, you know, rioters, but
They're rewriting history, creating a false narrative to try to paint this picture, I guess, to the... I don't want to say ignorant public, because it's hard to be non-ignorant if the entirety of the mainstream media and big tech is pushing the narrative.
But what did you find out in the details of that one?
Because it seems like a big one, right?
They murdered cops!
Like, really?
Like, they did?
That's pretty bad, and that person should be punished.
But, like, doesn't seem like that happened.
The entire January 6th narrative is built on lies.
It's built on lies from beginning to end.
That your father incited it, that somehow he was responsible for securing the Capitol, which he's not.
He did what he could, but it was intentionally left.
So the cop death is a big animating part of this.
And Brian Sicknick, and this is actually done when I started covering January 6th, because
They were saying that he was murdered.
The first story that came out January 8th of 2021 in the New York Times said, Brian Sicknick was bludgeoned to death by a fire extinguisher by Trump supporters.
Okay, well how did we not see that?
I have a feeling that video would have leaked conveniently by the Democrats that were in charge of all of the video at the time, right?
So we started looking into that.
Of course, that was a total lie.
The New York Times ended up retracting it.
Brian Sicknick and then the D.C.
coroner delayed releasing the results of what happened with him.
He died of a stroke caused by two blood clots.
That has not stopped not just the media.
Joe Biden, Merrick Garland go down the line and continue to lie and say that he was killed by Trump supporters.
And the really sad part about that
Is that one man, two men were charged with that, held in pretrial detention.
One was finally released, but the other man is now behind bars for eight years, claiming that because he sprayed pepper spray in the direction of police, who by the way, were assaulting the protesters outside, that he was responsible for Brian Sicknick's death, even though it had nothing to do with it.
And he was sent to jail for eight years after spending almost two years in pretrial detention in the D.C.
Gulag.
Yes, I mean, you've covered the pain and suffering from some of the families on the prisoners.
Some of them even took their own lives, right?
They committed suicide because it felt hopeless.
Honestly, it does.
You look at it now and, you know, I think there was, you know, you were just sort of alluding to some of the delays in getting the information out because, you know, it was January 6th.
The transition of power was January 20th.
If we keep ambiguity, you can't pardon someone who bludgeoned someone to death with a fire extinguisher.
Oh, conveniently now Joe Biden's in power.
Well, okay, it didn't quite happen that way, so it's a little different, but the media won't even tell those stories.
I mean, again, why isn't that a key tenant, you know, on Fox News?
They've allowed to run with it, you know.
It has to be.
It was a totally legit election, Julie.
Like, no one with a
We're good to go.
Right.
Well, and I mean, I will say this is a little bit of the good news with the January 6th.
The whole issue is that the Democrats and the media really thought that January 6th would be a fatal blow to your father's career, to the entire MAGA movement, that it would silence any skepticism about the 2020 election.
Well, here we are, you know, more than three years later, the same percentage of Republicans who said,
In 2020, that they thought the election was illegitimate, that Joe Biden did not win enough legitimate votes to become president.
That percentage has not changed.
Do you still have more than two- I've heard it's gone up.
I think it has actually ticked up a little bit because people are starting to say, wait a second.
Wait a minute.
This is a cover-up.
January 6th was part of a cover-up to completely silence criticism and investigation into the 2020 election.
Yeah, because if it wasn't, you'd also think they'd make a really big deal.
about the pipe bombs outside the DNC and the RNC.
Maybe the liberal media would be fine with a pipe bomb outside the RNC, but it just disappeared.
It's amazing.
Darren Beatty from Revolver News has been on a bunch talking about all those, and it's like, wait a minute, so Kamala Harris was there, the vice president-elect.
The Secret Service would be losing their minds.
And yet it was just like, hey,
Uh, there's enough shade around all of these things.
We're just not going to talk about that because we got what we wanted here.
It was the backup plan.
If they didn't get a couple people to, you know...
We're good to go.
And I'm not saying the guy that broke a glass door should have been doing that.
But they made it seem like a million people were there all doing this, as opposed to, hey, 20 people were stupid, the rest sort of followed blindly, and there's a difference.
And there should be, within the eyes of the law.
There absolutely should be, but there's not.
And so to your point, there were different things happening at different points at different
Yes, there were people who were violent, there were people who attacked police, but that is a small percentage of the total body of people who have been charged and prosecuted.
But it doesn't matter because the DOJ and even the judges say, even if you had a small role, even if you walked in with Capitol Police right there, even if you didn't assault, you didn't do any damage, you're charged with misdemeanors, you were part of this mob.
That represented the darkest day.
I just read again.
The greatest threat to democracy.
It's worse than Pearl Harbor and 9-11.
I'm like, I don't know.
That doesn't seem like it, but that's just me.
I have a brain.
I think that kind of hyperbole is actually really backfired on the DOJ and the media.
But how was it so effective so early?
You know, it didn't know, but you know, I remember seeing that.
I mean,
Yo, people, you're crying.
I mean, I'm like, I don't know, what really happened?
Someone put their feet up on Nancy Pelosi's desk?
I'm like, I don't know, it was like, give me a break.
And yet, they were incredibly effective at selling that message, right?
And again, we found out all the details.
It's the first unarmed insurrection in the history of the world.
That should have been the first clue, right?
Just so we're clear, there's never been an unarmed insurrection, probably in the history of the world.
It then turns out the tour guides were the only people that were actually armed.
It seems most of them were actually federal law enforcement implanted in.
There's a reason that Christopher Wray, the director of the FBI, is like, we can't put up the video because it would give up too much- Wait, wait.
So you had...
Like lots of people and they made no effort to stop things.
They didn't arrest anyone.
They just let it sort of happen.
It's almost again like if you're a person with an actual freaking brain and you hear that chain of events you like you'd have to be a clown like a true imbecile to believe it was actually an insurrection and not
A desired outcome.
Like, I think they were very effective at getting their desired outcome, no question.
And then they were very effective at selling it and making people believe it.
And then, you know, once it fell apart, it didn't matter because it was already past January 20th.
They got everything they wanted out of it.
They cemented the narrative so early, and I write about this in my book.
You know, by 4 o'clock on January 6th, Joe Biden was in front of the teleprompter at his home in Delaware, calling it an insurrection.
The insurrection narrative took root so fast, and to your point also, Nancy Pelosi, the next day, calling it an armed insurrection.
Well, we know the only person who used a firearm inside the U.S.
Capitol was Capitol Police Lieutenant Michael Byrd, who shot and executed Ashley Rappett.
And they don't talk about him, like, you know, having repeated gun offenses.
Like, clearly to me, I'll say to me because, you know, again, like this was a
Either an accidental discharge or gross incompetence.
As a gun guy, there's no way.
That doesn't just happen.
There was absolutely no reason for it.
It's nonsense.
And yet, they put him out.
He's a hero.
He saved me.
Saved people from what?
From Ashley Babbitt?
She wasn't going to do it.
What are you talking about?
An unarmed person?
It's lunacy, but it didn't matter.
And three other Trump supporters died on January 6th as well.
Roseanne Boylan, two other men, Benjamin,
Phillips and Kevin Greeson, four Trump supporters, died.
Three of them, direct correlation to lethal or excessive force by police.
That's the other thing that the Democrats did.
Has that been determined as lethal?
Well, obviously lethal if they died, but excessive?
Because I can't imagine anyone allowing the excessive part to actually happen in D.C.
Well, the excessive—so, Capitol Police and D.C.
Metro were using what they called nonlethal munitions early on in the crowd outside.
This has done, to me, probably the most underreported aspect of January 6th, how the police conducted themselves that day.
These police officers
Who were tear gassing protesters outside using flashbangs, stun grenades against people, throwing them recklessly into the crowd, completely violating how these munitions are supposed to be used.
And then that resulted in a heart attack of one man.
He was hit by one of these grenades.
Also inside the tunnel, using excessive amounts of gas in an enclosed area, which resulted in the death of Roseanne Boylan.
As far as the full story, that is an important aspect of it, which is how the Democrats also covered that up.
As soon as Capitol Police, D.C.
Metro, they were given all kinds of medals and awards, and you had police officers who were crying and giving testimony.
And then they became regulars on TV, Crocodile Tears, and they get promotions, and the Presidential Medal of Freedom, and I'm like, wait, I mean,
Some of these guys were, you know, let's call it barely cops at best before that.
And they got turned into, you know, they were like, you know, SEAL Team Six commanders.
Look at Harry Dunn is one example.
And I actually confronted him at the courthouse one day and I said to him, and he's the larger black man who is Capitol Police officer.
We now know he lied under oath.
Nothing happened.
Oh, he's running for Congress now.
So Nancy Pelosi is support.
He's running for Congress.
Congratulations, Democrats.
This is what you get.
But I asked him, I said, um, Harry, why aren't you mad at the people who actually did not protect the Capitol?
Why are you embracing Nancy Pelosi instead of angry that she and her sergeant at arms refused to deploy the National Guard?
Because I got a book deal!
Julie, I got a book deal and I'm running for Congress on a lot!
But that's the thing.
And so, and I was criticized for it.
Hey, like, I heard these things.
Like, you know, you see, like,
Hey, we want the National Guard, just in case, we're gonna do X, Y, Z. And yet, you couldn't get the mayor, I guess it was Muriel Bowser, would not sign off on that, and you couldn't get Nancy Pelosi to sign off on it.
Again, if you had a brain, you'd say, there's a reason.
for that.
They got everything they wanted out of it.
The Democrats actually wanted this to happen exactly the way it did.
Maybe they would have been happy with worse.
I don't know.
But it gave them enough to between sort of the manipulation from media, the manipulation from tech, the, you know, censoring of the conservative viewpoint, all of these things, they gave them exactly what they wanted.
So it was fine.
That's exactly right.
So yeah, they did get everything that they want.
I mean, I go back to Mitch McConnell.
He called January 6th exhilarating.
I mean, because he fought so hard for days trying to get Republican senators not to sign off on the 10-day election audit plan that they were going to discuss on January 6th.
He begged them not to.
Then after January 6th, now his sergeant at arms also with Pelosi's refused
Yeah, and then, you know, guys like Tucker talk about it on Fox News, and conveniently they're let go shortly thereafter for bringing up these stories that, again, the conservative elite, you know, the Washington swamp creatures, not, you know, the rhinos.
You know, they were just as fine with this as the Democrats.
They were more than happy to weaponize against it because it was, you know, business as usual for them in Washington, D.C.
It put everything, you know, America first.
But you compare and contrast all of that, all of what's happening, and you do that compared to in the District of Columbia.
They're declining to prosecute crimes.
Alvin Bragg's doing the same thing.
You know, he did the opposite for Trump where he takes something that was at worst seen as a misdemeanor and you turned it into
A felony.
Whereas down there, they won't prosecute gun crimes and juvenile crimes are out of control.
They reduce felonies to misdemeanors across the board.
Talk about that, because it's clearly happening in New York, but it's also happening in the streets of DC, where it's just reverse priority.
We'll up a criminal offense against our political enemies, but we'll downgrade against those who could perhaps be seen as a reliable voting bloc.
Um, you know, or at least their relatives or loved ones would be a reliable voting box, so we'll allow a criminal to do that.
I mean, you have people carjacking Secret Service cars.
I mean, and so Matthew Graves is the Biden-appointed U.S.
Attorney for the District of Columbia.
Now, as the U.S.
Attorney for D.C., he has the unique role of prosecuting local and federal crimes.
So, um, thanks to most Republicans, they've thrown all this new money at the Department of Justice since January 6th.
Matthew Graves could then go- Oh, it's so frustrating!
We don't learn!
No, not at all.
We never learn!
And we keep doing- because again, it's easy.
Well, the very first thing Republicans should have done is a bill to completely defund and shut down the D.C.
U.S.
Attorney's Office.
So he's under fire.
There's a couple of us on the outside talking about it, but everyone else is fine.
D.C.
residents are furious because he is refusing.
He is declining.
67% of the cases brought to him by D.C.
police, he refuses to charge these criminals, especially with gun crimes, juvenile carjackings, etc.
So there's a lot of pressure building for him to resign because of what he's doing in Washington.
He's diverting resources away from prosecuting violent criminals in Washington, D.C.
And reallocating that so he can continue to arrest and prosecute trespassers from an event now three and a half years ago, and people with no criminal record for the most part, and who don't live in Washington, D.C.
So, yes, that's... By the way, so I'm sitting in a live chat right now, just wanted to hear what the person running for Congress, the former Capitol Hill police person, Harry Dunn, what was his answer to your question?
Oh, he claimed that he is upset at Nancy Pelosi and others for not keeping the Capitol safe.
But he's more than happy to take her money and take her money to run for Congress.
I'm shocked that in D.C.
it's all about the money.
I'm absolutely shocked.
I said, yeah, why are you criticizing the wrong people here?
Well, here they're saying, how did Mitch McConnell get what he wanted?
The answer is they were able to stop any of the questioning of the most secure and safe election.
We don't know how.
No one's actually told us why it was the most safe and secure, other than that was the sound bite decided on.
We're supposed to believe that millions of ballots sent to homes, millions of people that we now know
Didn't actually live there or couldn't vote.
That it was all 100% legit.
We can't serialize it.
We can't do voter ID.
We can't.
But we're to believe it's the most safe of all time.
That's the problem.
If you're the rhinos in D.C.
They're just as happy with the Democrats getting the win because, again, their life is easy.
They still get their money and, you know, they have some power and get invited to the cool person Christmas party or whatever.
It's a holiday party.
We've got to be very careful because, you know, there is no cool person Christmas party in D.C.
If you said that, that would that would precisely get you not invited to said party.
But, you know, and I guess to be clear for the audience,
This was a setup, right?
On the documents case, Jay Bratt met with Ron Kline in September 2021 before any documents were even found.
That's something else you've discovered.
Tell the audience who those guys are and why that's so significant in this sort of prosecution.
The January 6th case, which we talked about, you know, very vague statutes that are being used and kind of plugging in the evidence after that.
The Classified Documents case, what we now know, is this collusion throughout 2021 between Jay Bratt, who was the lead prosecutor for the DOJ, the Initial Investigation Counterintelligence Unit for the Department of Justice.
He now is on Jack Smith's team.
But he was meeting with top White House officials.
Why would the head of counterintelligence for the Department of Justice
First of all, be meeting with the Chief of Staff or the Chief of Staff's assistant to do what.
So this was, of course, a few months before the boxes were turned over, as I said.
But you also had the National Archives.
David Ferraro, not a fan of your father.
Gary Stern, the General Counsel of the National Archives, also not a fan of your father.
Shocking.
Meeting again with White House Counsel.
Dana Remus and Jonathan Sue, the Deputy White House Counsel.
Now, they are in the White House, right?
They are working in the White House.
How is it possible that Joe Biden was not aware that his top lawyers at the White House are in cahoots with the Archival of the White House?
I can understand how Joe Biden's not aware, but it doesn't mean that whoever is the puppet, you know, Joe Biden's not aware of, you know, what day it is or where he, yeah.
We gotta call balls and strikes.
I'm not saying that Joe Biden was aware, but that's because he's not aware of literally anything going on around him.
So I'm sure Joe Biden was aware, or Obama, or Valerie Jarrett, or Susan Rice.
Whatever clowns are the people actually sort of being the puppet masters, I'm sure they were aware.
Yes, they were definitely aware.
And then, you know, also the material that we're getting out of the classified documents case from the defense attorneys, early correspondence, also reaching out with members, officials at the DOJ, and then immediately after the boxes were turned over, suddenly claims of classified papers being in those boxes, going directly to the Department of Justice with a criminal referral, talking to the Office of the Deputy Attorney General, Lisa Monaco,
You know, a longtime agitator of your father's very close Obama aide, and also one of the architects of Russia Collusion, who is now the Deputy Attorney General.
Of course.
It's the same people who keep popping up all the time.
Yeah, so we hear a lot about, obviously, Jack Smith, but who is Jay Brat?
How does he fit into all of this?
So Jay Bratt is now the lead prosecutor on the classified documents case.
He is the one who met with, we think, Ron Klainer, at least his associate, in 2021.
But he also is the one who misrepresented that photo that we talked about from the FBI.
So he was the prosecutor in your father's special master lawsuit.
He was representing the Department of Justice opposing that.
He now is accused of prosecutorial abuse.
For threatening Walt Nauda's attorney by pulling a judicial nomination that he had applied for.
So he's just another dirty DOJ apparatchik, using his power however he can to take down your father and people around him.
He's unaccountable, just like everyone at the Department of Justice, with the exception of having to be accountable in Judge Cannon's courtroom.
And this bad blood between Judge Cannon and the DOJ has really started to spill out.
In fact, it was funny.
Well, I mean, they're giving her every reason.
It's like, I mean, they're tampering with evidence.
I was like, oh, I'm so sorry.
I mean, if we did this, to be clear, my father would be in jail already.
That's right.
Well, right.
It's funny they're not trying to get a gag order out of Aileen Cannon, you'll notice.
They got one out of Judge Chudkin.
They got one out of Judge Merchant.
They're not asking for anything there.
I mean, they're all insane, but of course they don't want you talking about these details.
And if the media won't cover the details and get into all of it, and again, it's not like, hey, there's one case where the details just don't add up.
It's all of them, right?
We've seen, you know, when it was, you know, Fannie Willis, the just flagrant corruption, you know, going on there, you know, with Alvin Bragg, you see the turn of events, the meeting with, you know, with Fannie Willis, you know, meeting conveniently, like, why would Fannie Willis need to meet with the Obama, the Biden White House?
Why would they be there?
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Nathan Wade was the sort of the vessel of that meeting.
So that sort of throws out Fannie Willis.
You have Alvin Bragg.
We've discussed that one already a bunch in terms of just the detail of the corruption.
You know, I've discussed the details here on the show like sort of ad nauseum with Letitia James and the flaws there.
We now have the flaws in the Shotgun case.
You have the flaws in the Cannon case.
There's not one of these that's like a clean
And they're not like little things like, oh, that's a minor detail.
These are all what we, you know, you'd think anywhere else they'd just be thrown out, you know, like in like summary judgment based on the insanity right now, but they're still being allowed to play out in full.
Well, I think what Americans are waking up to is, you know, the compromised judges who make the final decisions.
How do you ever fix that?
Because they're appointed for life, right?
They sit there and they can be there forever.
So there has to be accountability.
Congress does have oversight authority.
I can't even tell you the last time a federal judge was impeached.
At the very least, these judges have to be investigated, especially in Washington, D.C., both district court and appellate court.
Is that realistic though?
Congress has plenty of authority to do these things.
But they won't.
I dealt with it a lot.
Again, I try to always liken it to first-hand experience.
When Russia collusion started happening, I was like, well... I mean, I know they're going after me, but I'm like, but listen, if the FBI... I took a selfie with someone who must be some sort of... No, it's all bullshit.
It didn't matter.
But I wanted to believe that there was a pretense of objectivity and these guys were patriots doing their duty.
It's like, that's all bullshit.
What you believe in America, if you're me as a patriot,
That actually doesn't exist.
It doesn't.
We're not fighting to preserve that anymore because it's gone.
We're fighting to restore that because it currently does not exist.
Correct.
So I think it can, but that stuff is all a pipe dream right now.
But with these sort of live appointments, I used to sort of joke, I started the, you know, where is Lindsey hashtag a long time ago?
Lindsey Graham.
I'm like, I'm watching him.
He gets on Sean Hannity.
We should be doing this and that.
And I'm like, well, you're the head of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
You can literally send a subpoena and figure it out.
But I'm like, but you're getting on conservative media as the head of a major committee.
You're saying all the things that we should be doing as Republicans.
You yourself have the authority to do it.
But you also know that most people don't know that.
So it can appear like you're fighting when you're actually doing nothing.
Well, I mean, that's why I think the base is so frustrated with, and justifiably so, with Republican leadership in Washington.
We keep seeing this over and over.
They have some authority.
Democrats get authority and they wield it.
They know how to use political power.
We get authority and we cede it to the Democrats.
Well, right, exactly.
And don't do what people would consider very easy.
Don't build the FBI.
New headquarters, you know?
Slash DOJ headquarters.
Clearly corrupted.
I mean, it's insane.
You listen to what's coming out of their mouths, and like, obviously nonsense.
But, you know, can you more broadly sort of chronicle the FBI abuses?
You had, obviously, Russiagate, January 6th, the fake, like, entrapment Gretchen Whitmer, you know, kidnapping plot.
Like, let's convince a bunch of meth heads to say something.
After three years of, like, prodding them, they said something, so we got them.
It's like, staging the class, the documents photo, like,
What are the other greatest hits that perhaps Americans don't yet know about?
I mean, I do think just participating in these armed raids of January 6th defendants.
I mean, this is happening out of every, all 56 field offices.
Yeah, the Amish farmer is selling, you know, unpasteurized milk to his neighbors.
You know, we're gonna raid them, but like, you know, the guy that drives through a Christmas parade, yeah, we've been watching him for a while, but you know, he's trans or he's, you know, he could be a black supremacist.
That doesn't, you know, that you gotta, you gotta give some leeway.
It's a little different, right?
And I guess that's the hard part.
I've always tried making the distinction between the door kickers.
I said it a couple minutes ago, but like, there comes a time though, you know, as pro law enforcement as I am, and if you know, you know, you go like the cops that come up to me on a daily basis just thanking us for fighting for this stuff, but
Where does that leeway go when it's like, okay, I get it, it's a job, but one thing, fine, but if you're being forced to participate in stuff that's clearly violating people's rights, the basic tenets of the Constitution, when do they have to finally speak up and start actually functioning as whistleblowers?
And we've seen what happens to the whistleblowers.
I'm not saying it's easy.
It's not easy.
If you're a whistleblower against Trump, you're getting a promotion, you'll be the brass in a matter of seconds.
If you're a whistleblower against the corruption,
You're afforded none of those rights, but you also can't just sit idly by and consider yourself a patriot forever, right?
Well, I mean, that's the issue.
So you've got agents working out of all these field agents' offices.
They continue to participate in these raids and investigations.
They know that these cases are bogus.
But they get promotions, right?
Because what's happening with J6 is they're trying to juice the domestic terror numbers.
So Christopher Wray lies, says domestic terrorists is the number one threat.
Catholic school fairs!
But they've got to get cases behind it.
And then agents are promoted.
They get a certain amount of voice.
Because that's the biggest threat ever, right?
The MAGA move is the greatest threat.
Not actual terrorists.
Last week was finally appellate arguments for the appeal of the two men who were convicted at a second trial for federal kidnapping.
The appellate panel there seemed sort of inclined to send this back maybe for a third trial.
Yeah, but they still got what they wanted, right?
Because the idea of the whole thing was to be like,
It's a real threat to America, like two weeks before an election, right?
I mean, it was still election interference.
It absolutely was.
Nothing should happen to these people, in my opinion, because I don't think they, you know, they probably have an IQ of three and like didn't, you know, but it doesn't matter because they were able to, you know, effectively manipulate an election because of it.
So if they get caught, maybe that's a good thing, but if they get caught and there's nothing really happens and it's six years later or whatever, like,
Are they just going to keep doing it?
They're in supermax prisons now, considered some of the worst criminals.
They're in there with Hannibal Lecter.
They are.
If you don't have a toilet or running water in 2024, you're probably not the mastermind of any plot to assassinate a leader.
He had to be driven everywhere by one of the top, by the lead FBI informant.
So anyway, what's remarkable in that case, and this is really what blows people's mind, I credit Darren Beatty with this.
The guy who was in charge of the Detroit FBI field office during the Whitmer Fednapping, Stephen D'Antuono, is promoted by Christopher Wray to take over the Washington D.C.
FBI field office two months before January 6th.
He takes over the entire investigation for two years, the pipe bomb, which are never found.
So the guy that did a lot of entrapment before gets moved to a place that conveniently two months later is ripe for another opportunity at entrapment.
Yes, because we now know because of the trials, we know that there were dozens of FBI informants involved in January 6th before and on that day.
And I expect that we are going to be finding out more information about that sometime this year as well.
So how'd you get, how'd you just start?
How'd you uncover these stories?
You know, how'd you end up on this beat in the first place?
And like, cause I mean, no, but again, it's like one of these things, like if we had a free and fair press,
Everyone would be doing this.
I think it's the people that claim to be defending the Republican democracy.
It's a soundbite for them.
It's like we laugh about it at a cocktail party and then make fun of the America First people, who frankly have been much more right about that than anything the so-called educated elites have been right about.
But how do you end up there?
Yeah, I say, what did I do to deserve this?
They gave you a monopoly on real information and they have no interest in pursuing it.
It's sort of amazing.
I think early on no one, I mean absolutely no one, everyone on our side wanted to touch January 6th or the people who were being rounded up.
They were terrorists.
They're not like us, so we don't want to defend them.
But then when I saw what was happening, holding people in pretrial detention for not even a violent crime and opening up this special prison in Washington.
These families and defendants were reaching out to me because no one was covering it, so that's how I...
It made, you know, that connection with those individuals and then just started reading all the court motions and, you know, it became, it's kind of a personal mission.
I saw that with you really early.
Like I said, it was, you know, when we first, this was, I guess.
I think two years ago.
Yeah, like CPAC.
Was it 2022?
No, I think, well... Yeah, I think it was 2021.
Yeah, so, I mean, early on, and again, one of those things that you've been going at hard.
Like, what else are you working on?
What stories can you preview?
How do people find you?
Again, because, like, half of this is about making sure.
So, I need you to like, share, and subscribe so people can actually see this.
Also, make sure you're following Julie in doing it, because she's literally out... I mean, you're like an animal.
I see your social feed.
I mean, it's...
It's a big deal and it's important because no one else is doing it.
And I don't know why, Don, because when I posted last week the motions and the classified documents case that demonstrated some of the new revelations, I get 5 million views.
I mean, nothing even compares to the interest.
People are desperate for facts.
They want to know what's going on.
No one cares about your opinion anymore, really.
They just want to know what's happening in these court proceedings, what the government is doing, what the judges are doing, and what revelations are coming forward.
So, well, people can follow me, Axe, as you know, on Truth Social.
I'm on Axe Twitter, Julie underscore Kelly, too.
And Truth Social, Julie underscore Kelly.
Declassified with Julie Kelly as my substack, Real Clear Investigations.
I also have a big piece about the Whitmer Fednapping hoax.
People want to get up to speed with that.
I think that's it.
How do you think these cases play out before the election as a sort of final thought?
I mean, it's hard to say what's going to happen in New York.
Well, listen, I don't know how you can win.
You have a jury, you're allowed to throw out X number of people on one side, and you have a jury poll that's 95-5.
Just play out statistics.
If you're playing roulette, you're going to win.
You get a jury that's 100% leftist.
At least if I was a prosecutor, that's what I'd be doing, and I'm actually far more honest than
You know anyone we're up against and so you know it almost to me doesn't matter the facts.
You have a judge that is a lunatic it seems to me and like uh then they're trying to gag you and you can't say anything because they don't want anyone else outside of New York to figure it out and you know I almost
I would think, even with the facts, which are atrocious for the prosecution, I literally don't know how you don't win that there.
Meaning, I think you could have five guys that are conservatives on that jury, and it's like, well, I gotta be able to go to my kid's school again.
I gotta be able to go to dinner.
Like, I can't be the person that's doing that.
They know they're gonna leak it, and they're probably following.
So, yeah, I almost don't know.
Yeah, I think that that probably will be the outcome.
I do know.
I know what the outcome's going to be and then you just got to play it out and you got to appeal and you got to bring it to someone finally.
At least, you know, if you have an objective thing, I think all of these things are thrown out.
But again, it was set up to be not objective.
Right.
So, but I think most people view this as such a rigged trial, a compromised judge in a far left wing part of New York City.
So they're not going to view that.
I think DOJ really or
The Trump haters really thought that the Washington, D.C., and it would have been.
It would have been the quickest conviction, and I think people would have thought that the charges January 6th were serious enough to justify it.
But now all eyes really, I think, are on classified documents in Southern Florida, all the revelations coming out there.
The big question now, there was a May 20th trial date originally set.
Of course, that's been vacated because your father's in trial somewhere else.
So, now they're going back.
I know.
I feel bad saying it.
Yeah, I'm like, great.
They're like, can you go give a speech?
I'm like, do I have to?
Right?
Yeah.
So, I mean, you know that.
May 20th trial date obviously not happening so they're going back and forth.
Will that go to trial before the election?
Judge Cannon is very adamant and this is why she'll hopefully be on a short list.
She's very adamant about protecting the rights of your father and the two co-defendants and she basically has said
If he's on trial or is proceeding somewhere else, the proceedings in Florida will basically be postponed because he as a defendant has a right to attend all of the court hearings.
So I'm not sure my father wants to attend all of these things.
If he had to attend one, he'd probably... Well, I hope he stops because he shuts down 95 and I can't get up there.
Well, they want him to be in attendance because if he's in attendance, he can't campaign.
And he can't point out to the American people he's got a unique soapbox, again, displacing so much of the conventional media.
I mean, for pre-trial things that are happening in Florida.
Like, she's very adamant that he has a right to be there.
If he can't be there, then she's going to postpone things.
So she is defending that right.
But there's a lot of drama, and I do think we're going to see some of the grand jury materials come out, because she's not happy.
That 99% of that investigation took place in Washington when it should have taken place in Florida.
Because she's honest, unfortunately.
I wish others were in our system.
Julie, thank you so much, guys.
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