THE SWAMP’S BAIT AND SWITCH, Plus Biden’s Title IX Trans Madness, Live with Candice Jackson and Drea de Matteo | TRIGGERED Ep.130
THE SWAMP’S BAIT AND SWITCH, Plus Biden’s Title IX Trans Madness, Live with Candice Jackson and Drea de Matteo | TRIGGERED Ep.130
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Guys, welcome to another huge Monday episode of Trigger.
Tonight's gonna be a really fun one.
We have two first-time guests.
First, we'll talk with former Department of Education official and lawyer Candace Jackson about Joe Biden's radical Title IX changes.
You know all the changes that were designed to create like protection for women's in sports?
Well,
Seems like that's all gone in favor of the Trannies.
So, all of the madness we're seeing in our schools and our college campuses, frankly, being caused by a lot of this nonsense.
But also, guys, later on, we're gonna talk with actress, Drea DeMatteo.
If you're a fan of The Sopranos, I know, you know, that was the stuff that was going on, I mean, in my formative years.
So, if you're a fan of that, you'll know her as Adriana.
And she'll talk about
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Because last week, the House passed the $60 billion funding bill for Ukraine.
And this week,
Democrats celebrated by waving the flag.
No, no, not our American flag.
That would be, like, sacrilegious.
That'd be like the devil putting on holy water.
But their flag.
You know, the Ukrainian flag.
In the halls of Congress, they wouldn't dare wave an American flag.
I mean, that would be, like, almost patriotic or something.
They're waving the flag of the Ukraine.
Check it out.
Just so we're clear, folks, that video is sickening because these are elected American representatives, not Ukrainian representatives.
Ask yourself, when's the last time Democrats waved the American flag?
Or anything like that.
But if you ask Democrats like Congressman Jerry Connolly of Northern Virginia, a.k.a.
the Swamp Suburbs, they represent Ukraine, not America.
Listen for yourself.
Some say, well, we have to deal with our border first.
The Ukrainian-Russian border is our border.
Oh boy.
Here we go again, right?
Like, infrastructure is women's health or whatever it is.
I mean, the Democrats sort of assume everything is whatever the latest thing is, I guarantee it.
It's mind-boggling.
But you've seen this.
You've been watching this, right?
Joe Biden, when he gave the State of the Union, it felt a lot more like the State of Ukraine's union.
We are sending $60 billion there.
We are funding their pension funds for their retirees.
You know, we can't fund our own, but minor details.
I mean, again,
Apparently, their border is more important than ours.
He should resign right now.
Connolly took an actual oath of office when he joined Congress to have allegiance to the United States of America.
Instead, he and his Democrat colleagues prioritize Ukraine's borders over ours.
Your tax dollars are used to fund their wars.
Why?
Because folks, don't we know at this point in time, don't we know it?
There's no money in peace.
No one in DC is getting rich when you have peace.
You need war.
That's how you get the board seat at Raytheon.
That's the retirement program for our generals and our congressmen.
And you don't keep that board seat if you don't keep us in wars.
So we can keep selling missiles and whatever else they use over there.
And a couple people in D.C.
get rich while we become poor.
Whether that's through inflation, whether it's through America losing its power on a world stage because we don't have the munitions to actually take care of ourselves if the crap ever hits the fan, etc.
And meanwhile, folks, today in New York City, we saw just how politicized the show trial against my father actually is.
After opening statements today, the judge wrapped the trial for the day at noon, so a juror could go to a dentist appointment.
Yes.
Yes.
Remember, Trump can't go to his son's graduation, okay?
This is the same judge, literally the same judge, that has yet to confirm whether my father can attend his son's high school graduation.
But, you know, I mean, we can take the day off for a dental appointment, right?
I don't think they even convene on Wednesdays.
You couldn't just do it then?
I mean, I don't know.
Seems odd.
Unless it's all bullshit, which, of course it is, folks.
The Democrats' bias couldn't be more obvious.
And while Alvin Bragg is in lower Manhattan trying to save Joe Biden's failing campaign with a corrupt prosecution, uptown, just a few miles to the north, at Columbia University, he's letting pro-Hamas radicals target Jewish students, just allowing it to happen.
Set up a camp right in the middle of campus.
Call for violence.
You know, remember, it's sort of like Penn and MIT and Harvard.
Like, that's not a violation of our code of conduct!
At this point, folks, it's not an exaggeration to call these students pro-Hamas.
These aren't people simply there chanting that Palestinians have a right to exist.
This is not like that at all.
Here they are chanting for Hamas to kill more Israeli soldiers.
Just so we're clear, they want Hamas to kill soldiers.
This is happening at an Ivy League school on their campus in uptown New York City.
Watch for yourselves.
Free our prisoners, free them all
Seem like very reasonable people, folks.
This is insane.
And look at this video of what happened when a Jewish student entered their encampment.
They started creepily chanting to form a line to remove them.
Can I get everyone to form a human chain right here, please?
My chain!
My chain!
Repeat after me.
We have Zionists who have entered the camp.
We are going to create a human chain where I am standing so that they do not pass this
Do not pass this point and infringe upon our privacy and try to disrupt our community.
Please join me in this chain.
Guys, this university costs $90,000 a year.
And one of the protesters is, of course, Ilhan Omar's daughter.
Remember, you know, one of the leaders of the Hamas caucus in Congress.
She goes to Barnard College, which of course is part of Columbia, and, uh, let's just say, is probably even less reasonable than her mom.
This isn't some sort of phase that these radicals are going to grow out of, folks.
This has become totally normalized in the United States of America.
This isn't Europe, early 1940s, late 30s.
This is 2024.
And that's what's happening at our institutions of higher learning.
Some of the most elite institutions anywhere in the world.
It's going to be these people who are running our country, unless we stop it.
And it's not just Colombia, or just the Ivies.
At the University of Michigan, for example, they handed out a pamphlet calling for, you guessed it folks, death to America.
I mean, you know, I don't know.
Seems a little bit crazy.
I mean, it's the University of Michigan.
Last I checked, Michigan was still part of the United States.
There's some great patriots that live in Michigan, but this is happening right now.
Death to America.
At another elite institution, probably one that gets plenty of taxpayer funding.
The Biden DOJ, or their left-wing prosecutors, will do nothing to stop these radicals because they actually support them.
They are the foot soldiers of the Democrat Party, just like the BLM extremists who destroyed our cities in 2020.
This is all part of the same thing.
They're fine with it as long as they're doing their bidding.
Doesn't matter if you cause a couple billion dollars in damage.
Doesn't matter if you destroy a city.
Doesn't matter if you drive away all the small businesses and big businesses and every business and you can't go buy toothpaste because it's behind a lockbox.
None of that matters.
You know, because I guess they were able to stop mean tweets or something like that, I guess.
And it's one of the many problems in education today, folks.
In just a few minutes, we'll talk with lawyer Candace Jackson about Joe Biden's Title IX reforms.
Let me give you a quick overview, though, just so we're clear on where we are and how we start.
The Biden administration completely rewrote Title IX, which is supposed to protect women on campus and sports.
The new rule bans discrimination against so-called gender identity.
This means that any school, any school, that receives federal funds can no longer acknowledge biological reality, right?
Gender is out the window, folks.
You must believe in the, what is it now, 7,426 genders?
It grows every day.
We don't actually know.
Bathrooms and locker rooms will no longer be single sex.
And refusing to use someone's preferred pronouns will be considered discrimination.
By the time they're done with it, I'm sure it will be considered hate speech, a crime punishable by, in all likelihood, death.
If the Democrats get what they always want, and they usually do.
Imagine for a second if there were mass protests by conservative students in red states about these new rules.
Within an hour, Joe Biden would have the National Guard breaking it up.
Many of these people would be thrown in jail.
They'll be put on terror watch lists, just like concerned Catholics and concerned mothers going to PTA meetings concerned about the indoctrination of their children in these schools.
Now, when
The government funds these colleges and they push radical gender ideology, when they push DEI practices that are effectively sanctioned discrimination against others, etc, etc.
That's never a problem.
Republicans rarely, if ever, say anything.
And yet, they can do this right now.
And it's happening.
They keep getting it.
They keep winning because our people are too weak to fight accordingly, to push back.
They're worried about being called names rather than actually doing what their constituency wants.
And I can assure you, having been out there, being out there, no one thinks that men should be playing women's sports with the exception of a few radical leftists.
The problem is that trans mafia controls so much for the probably the most privileged group anywhere in society that they still get it done.
Guys, finally, the Biden administration is suing Sheetz.
It's a gas station chain.
It's popular in Pennsylvania and other parts of the Northeast.
Why is Biden suing Sheetz, you may ask?
Well, because Sheetz uses criminal background checks so that they don't hire criminals.
And according to the Biden administration, that's discriminatory.
That's strange.
Doesn't seem discriminatory if, you know,
I did something, but if you look to make sure you're not hiring criminals that are handling either large amounts of cash or money, that's somehow discriminatory because, folks, in the crazy world of Democrats and the radical left, everything is racist.
If the Democrats had their way, I guess we aren't allowed to know who is and who isn't a convicted felon, even when they're applying for a job.
That used to be something that created problems.
Apparently, they want to get rid of that.
Just like they're probably fine with pedophiles teaching kindergarten and other things because we all probably know what's coming.
That, too, will be racist and off-limits in the not-too-distant future.
It's just another example of left-wing logic that flies in the face of reality.
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And with that,
We're going to talk with Candace Jackson, who is joining me now.
She's a former Deputy General Counsel at the Trump Education Department.
She's a lawyer by trade and training.
So, Candace, thanks for joining us.
We got mute?
You got me.
Okay, we got you.
Okay, perfect.
How's it going, Candace?
Thanks for joining.
Absolutely!
Glad to be here to talk about the most horrendous thing that anybody could ever do to girls and women in the name of a law that was intended to help us, but, you know.
Yeah, like, you know, it's sort of funny, you know, all the things they say about the Trumps and all that stuff.
I really didn't have, like, Donald Trump Jr., like, male feminists.
I didn't have that in my bingo card, and yet I feel like I've been fighting for, you know, I have two daughters that are actually great athletes, and, like, I feel like I'm fighting on the forefront of this battle that
You know, like, where are the soccer moms?
Where are, like, the women?
Where are the feminists?
How is this happening?
I mean, you understand the ins and outs of Title IX as well as anyone, and Biden's radical education agenda really threw a major wrench into it.
It's almost like the opposite of what it was intended.
Can you help demystify the latest Title IX action and what people need to understand what it all means?
Well, sure.
I mean, first of all, for what it does, people need to be clear that Title IX applies to all schools, colleges, and universities across the land.
Anybody who receives any kind of federal funding, even if that's just in the form of student loans given directly to the students.
So it's most schools and colleges across the country.
And what the new Title IX regulations turn on its head is saying,
We're not just going to talk about discrimination on the basis of sex.
Men, women, equality, equal opportunity.
We're now going to consider that Title IX sex discrimination applies to gender identity.
That's the main huge theoretical conceptual shift and negative change under these regulations.
And what that does is
Directly make it impossible for schools to watch out for and continue to provide equal opportunities, specifically for girls and women when those are necessary to create equal opportunities due to the differences between men and women between girls and boys.
Makes it impossible for schools to do that and also obey this new mandate not to supposedly discriminate based on something called gender identity.
What is gender identity?
They don't tell us.
The Department of Education and its new rule, 1,500 or so pages, nowhere does it even describe to us what is a gender identity.
What we do know is it's something subjective, some inner sense of being a boy, girl, both or neither.
And in that context, when it's that subjective and not based on inner feelings, and the mandate says you must validate that, schools must now ensure that students are participating in their education and all their programs and activities consistent with their gender identity.
So if their gender identity conflicts with their factual biological sex, being male or female,
Too bad, you have to respect that gender identity.
Yeah, so my understanding of Title IX, it was really, you know, hey, you know, men's sports dominated collegiate field, you know, football kind of gave back to football, and this was sort of a way of, you know, leveling that playing field.
I understand sort of the notion of, you know, the, you know, college football, it's a billion, multi-billion dollar industry, same with basketball.
You know, other men's sports and a lot, you know, most of the women's sports really don't bring in that much.
You saw a little bit of, you know, with the NCAA women's basketball this year, but
You know, I don't know that it translates anything, but it was designed to sort of level that playing field to give women that opportunity.
Does this just basically throw all of that out?
Because I feel like, you know, at first it sort of almost started off as a little bit of a joke, but now, you know, every day I read another article about, you know, some, you know, guy that became a girl about two weeks ago, you know, came in first, second, and third at the, you know, the high school track meet at the state championship, and now they're getting a full scholarship.
You know,
Given the lengths, I mean, you've seen people in Hollywood, they've gone to jail to try to get their kids into a school that maybe they didn't otherwise, you know, couldn't otherwise get into and stuff like that.
It's a big deal.
How many people are just going to game this system, ultimately destroying women's sports?
Because, hey, if you can be a state champion in something from being a journeyman athlete as a male, I imagine there's a lot of people that would do that, even if it's only temporary, even if it's just total BS for a couple of years to be able to get that spot or to get that scholarship or not have to take on that debt, et cetera, et cetera.
Yeah, you know, the lawyer in me just
It just fringes at how subjective this entire concept is.
There are no standards for proving up your gender identity.
It is truly a concept that has to be taken at face value.
Whatever comes out of your mouth is your gender identity and everything around you.
All our policies and rules and systems are now going to be forced to validate that.
There's never been any kind of non-discrimination basis or category before that has forced the participation of everyone around you to go along with what you subjectively say, especially when what you're saying just blatantly conflicts with objective facts.
So, will people game the system?
Sure, we're human.
That's why law is typically infused with these objective standards, so that we can appeal to something beyond one person's individual desires, because that, by human nature, lends itself to gaming a system.
Okay, so, you know, if the current law is what you're saying it is, and sex itself isn't even defined, we don't know, can the executive branch, are we just setting a precedent where the executive branch just invents a bunch of new definitions of what words mean, or just leave enough ambiguity knowing that, hey, they're gonna end up in a federal court where they've got the system sort of rigged against it and, you know, it's just gonna... Is there a purpose of the ambiguity?
Or is it just they don't even care enough, they just want to push something through?
They don't.
It's a combination of things.
I don't think they understand that the ambiguity will, I believe, hurt them in the upcoming litigation.
They don't have a choice, I don't think, except to roll with a lot of ambiguity in the realm of gender identity.
Because it is a fallacious concept.
It is this wacky, academic, postmodern concept that does not have a logical, non-circular definition or inherent logic to it.
So you kind of have to be ambiguous about it.
Is your gender identity the same as your sex?
Is it not?
It's very, very circular, and nobody is able to define it in any kind of objective way.
Nobody is able or willing to put any kind of standards to say, well, I demonstrate my gender identity by doing X, Y, or Z. Well, no, because that would, you know,
Insult, you know, somebody's inner feelings of their gender identity.
So the ambiguity is inherent in the concept.
I don't think they can get around that.
But I do think that there are enough ways to position this as arbitrary and having negative impacts on women, especially in areas like sports, that legal challenges are, you know, I'm hopeful for the legal challenges.
Yeah, I actually, you know, I hope this stuff actually ends up in front of a jury.
It's interesting.
I've been, you know, I've been talking about this now for years since, you know, since sort of the first sort of farcical things, and now then you see it, and of course it only goes one way, right?
It's men that, you know, become great at women's sports.
It's never really the other way around in the transitioning, so it seems particularly biased against women, but it's interesting, you know, in
You know, the 6, 7, 8 years that this has sort of been out there on a stage, much more so now than before, but, you know, I would sit there, even on Twitter, like 1.0, you know, back when it was just fully 95% ruled by the radical left, and I'd say this, and I'd be like, this is ridiculous, there's like men playing, and even there, if you read the comments, and if you read my comments even today, it's like, you know,
90% just disaster, like it's sort of funny, but like, you know, but even there, Twitter 1.0, five, six years ago, peak hatred of Trump, and they're like, you know, I can't stand Donald Jr.
I hate him.
I literally can't believe I'm agreeing with this guy on anything, and yet
In this case, he's right.
So I don't think that this is something that's like, this isn't 50-50, like, so much of politics, right?
It's like, this is probably a 90-10 issue at best for the other side, and it's like, how does it continue, though?
What's pushing this through?
Because, like I said, if I can be, like, shocked at the response in a positive way, that there's, like, people who literally hate my guts, hate my political views, hate everything about me, are like, you know what?
He's got a point on this one.
I don't think they changed that position simply because they've been hit more.
Maybe they're silent, maybe they're not going to be vocal, you know, against it.
But no one actually believes this stuff in mass, right?
So how do they get it through?
How do they push it through as though this is like a popular thing without any kind of resistance, without anything?
Well, and there is resistance.
I think there's a ton of resistance.
The whole gender identity concept has so many different fronts to it.
You know, you've got the gender medicine, you know, medical procedures on youth aspect of this.
There are lots of people pushing back hard against that.
We're good to go.
Dar, that I think it takes something specific like Aaliyah Thomas bashing women's swimming records or something for a lot of the public to kind of take notice and try to backtrack and figure out where is this coming from?
And the reason that it's been so successful and gotten so much leverage is because it very quietly, this gender identity issue, very quietly got hooked onto the so-called gay rights movement.
That ridiculous acronym that kept expanding over time.
LGBTQ blah blah blah.
And so the goodwill that for, you know, for a while gay Americans were building up with the public,
Saying, hey, just tolerate us, just leave us alone, just let us do our thing and be normal citizens just like you.
That goodwill was taken advantage of, boom, in comes the letters Q and T for queer and trans, and made it look like this is somehow a gay rights issue, and it's not.
But that's been the hook that allowed this issue to creep under the radar.
Yeah, because I mean, I, you know, again, I think, you know, most of the guys I know in that community with, you know, the, you know, LBG, like, whatever, like, community, it probably stops there.
There actually seems to be perhaps more animosity against the TQI, you know, the one...
Just sort of it goes on to infinity Because you know, I think a lot of people in the gay rights movement.
Hey, we fought for basic stuff.
We fought for equality We did this over decades.
We finally got it now that the trans community comes into like we don't want equality We like we want equality plus plus plus plus plus and we will get it and that's I never understood How does the trans community?
I mean, it's probably the
It feels like it's the most, I call it the trans mafia, right?
It's the most powerful group anywhere in America.
They are beyond reproach.
They can shoot up children's schools and their identities and their motivations have to be protected.
It can't be because they've been on drugs since they were two years old when someone convinced a parent that it would be a wonderful accessory, it's like the newest Birkin bag, to have a child that's trans.
So it's interesting to watch that, because a lot of the gay folks that I know are like, we don't want anything to do with that.
Like, leave three-year-olds alone.
That's bullshit.
And yet it still happens.
So, you know, what happens there, because I feel like there's actually a lot of stress sort of within that community of, you know, the gay side, you know, more before you go out there,
Hey, wait a second.
We want nothing to do with this.
We don't want to be indoctrinating children.
We don't want to be doing sex conversion therapy on three and four year olds.
They can't buy a pack of cigarettes for 15 more years, but they can clearly decide to mutilate their body and chemically castrate themselves for lives.
They're against that.
Absolutely.
I'm one of that population.
I was perfectly happy when my wife and I were legally allowed to get married, you know, many years ago.
That was great.
That has nothing to do with watching a group come in with a concept that makes no sense.
And it isn't even just bad enough that it's some sort of set of special rights that they're demanding.
It's actually coming in and demanding to take away rights that groups like women and gays and lesbians have already had to fight for.
So this isn't just a matter of looking at a group, an undefinable group by the way, because anybody can identify in and out of this trans or queer group anytime they want to.
Um, but looking at a group and saying, well, we don't want you to have any, any great rights here.
You know, we just don't like you.
We don't want you to have any rights.
The fact is these are rights that are being demanded that are taking away from the rights of others.
That's never happened before on the, in the landscape of American civil rights.
Yeah, I literally, you see that, you see the privileges that are extended.
I tell my son, right, he's a white man with the last name Trump.
I'm like, hey man, do you want to go to college?
You better become trans pretty soon, buddy.
So it's sort of a joke, but it's actually 100% true.
I have a friend that wanted to get into, he has a son that's super conservative and wanted to go to a school that actually is
Very left-leaning.
I won't betray the school or the person, but he basically, I was like, well, how are you going to get in?
He wanted to go to a very specific program for something only theirs, the best there is.
And literally he wrote his college admission essay.
He's like, I just went like full crazy.
Like I literally tried to be as insane as possible on like gender ideology.
And like this kid who's like,
Like more MAGA than me like swept in to get into this program he's graduating this year and it's like just game the system because it's like he realized exactly what it took.
Yeah it's it's so ridiculous that you know you you gotta
At some point, you think it's going to implode on itself, and it just might.
Because, I mean, hey, if you can demand surgeries and drugs to validate your own intergender identity,
Well, what if my gender identity needs cosmetic surgery?
I need weight loss surgery.
I need, you know, to look better.
I need to look more this and more that.
I mean, there's no end to it.
There's no logic to it.
There's no stopping point to it.
It will collapse the system if we don't start calling it out and not being afraid that it's anti-gay or anti-civil rights in any way.
You make a solid point.
I could use a six-pack again.
I got a little dad bod going.
I mean, someone else should pay for that.
Why do it the old-fashioned way if I can get the government to pay for it?
Well, that's right.
If everything comes down to, you know, I must have my inner vision of myself validated and brought to life, well, there's no end in sight for that.
No, not at all.
But how is the Biden administration sort of enabling this indoctrination that we're seeing at the local level?
I mean, it is very pervasive.
It's very much a strategy.
How is that happening right now?
A lot of it's through the enforcement decisions that the Biden Education Department and Department of Justice decide to make.
The Education Department is careful to say the right things in terms of, we at the federal government level don't impact or direct curriculum, local school curriculum, and that's true.
And so they say that.
In words, but their enforcement actions make it and their policy documents or guidance documents make it very clear that what they're really that they are going after schools that aren't educating, re-educating, programming students to become
Immersed in gender ideology and the notion that sex isn't what's real or concrete or binding in any way, that boy, girl, both or neither is a choice that everybody gets to make.
Yeah.
In a second Trump administration, what would be the best strategy to reverse all of these wrongs?
I mean, you know, you sort of want to do it with the stroke of a pen early with executive action, but I think you probably also want to make that more permanent by going through the proper sort of legislative channels.
I mean, can federal dollars be conditioned on, say, you know, not allowing for certain types of indoctrination or pronoun police type behavior, etc.? ?
Yeah, that's such a great point.
Toward the end of the first Trump administration, we were starting to think about what to do in a second administration and what needs to be done to cement getting this out of our schools so we can get back to great education in this country.
I think it might be time to step back and rely pretty heavily on working through some of this legislatively.
We really might be better off trying to craft something on the legislative side.
On the purely executive side, I think in a second Trump administration,
One of the only reasons that the Biden administration is imposing this joke of a Title IX rule on us in the last few months of its term here is because the Trump administration did things the legally correct way and only made changes to Title IX in a regulatory fashion and not by the stroke of a pen or a letter to schools, an informal thing like that.
We took the time to do it correctly under the regulatory procedure.
Biden administration therefore had to do the same thing.
That's why it's taken them at least this long to impose this.
And I think in a second administration, that's one of the reasons to prevent this from being this consistent football that just goes back and forth, back and forth with the changing of political administrations, might be to look to some more long-lasting legislative changes that just cut that head off, this ideological snake.
You know, put it right up there in federal law, you know, the basic premise that we all know who the men are and who the women are.
And where sex does matter in our society, treat everybody equally, you know, regardless of sex in a lot of ways.
But where sex does matter, like intimate spaces and locking people up in prisons and, you know, sports opportunities, where it does matter, we know who the men are.
And they're not allowed on the women's team.
Yeah, well, as far as higher education is concerned, Columbia appears to have enabled out-of-control pro-Hamas demonstrators.
They set up a camp in the middle of the campus.
How do we get to this point even within education?
As someone who was in the Department of Education, man, it feels like I'd have been thrown out of school 20
24 years ago when I graduated college for even, you know, some of this stuff.
I mean, you know, blocking, you know, a Jewish student from crossing a line.
I mean, you know, this isn't 1938.
It's 2024.
We're supposed to be progressive and all this stuff.
It feels like we've actually regressed to the point where this kind of discrimination is actually 100% fine.
I guess as long as it serves a specific agenda for the left.
Yeah, I can guarantee you schools and universities right now would would not be getting a pass the way that they are now back in the Trump administration.
Would not have happened.
We were very much on guard and willing to use the purse strings, right, to come after them and say, you've got all these great programs and all these different directions funded federally.
You're messing up big time right here.
And all those dollars are going away.
They're just going away.
And he brings them to the table really quickly.
But you have to be willing to act like that.
I guess that's why, you know, Trump's one of the few guys that will actually act on it.
Too many on the other, on the conservative side, well, you know, we don't want to be called a mean name and the trans mafia is going to come after us, but it seems like, you know, all the Democrats, all they want to actually do is focus on, like, the lawfare against my father.
They compare him to Putin and Hitler and Stalin, which is basically what Hillary Clinton said recently for the, you know,
50 millionth time.
They always accuse us of doing exactly what they're doing themselves.
You know, you've sort of borne witness to that.
I mean, that projection is a very real thing.
Oh, it is.
And, you know, right now, I think it's a huge attempt at distraction.
I don't think it's working.
I don't think it's working at all.
I think that this year, more even than 2020, is an opportunity for disaffected, homeless-feeling Democrats to actually feel really good about joining a side that's willing to take strong action.
Yeah, well, so I guess I'd ask you, I mean, what did you experience?
You said your wife, and I didn't know because I don't ask about people's sexual preferences or gender.
So what was that like for you serving in the Trump administration, doing these things, standing firm to that, fighting hard?
What was that like within that community, if that's a thing that you actually even care about?
Yeah, and it absolutely is.
You know, I'm a parent now, so I've got kids that have to balance and have some concerns with, you know, oh, your moms are gay.
So, you know, it is a concern in that community.
But I'll tell you, I was, as far as in the Trump administration, extremely comfortable.
President Trump was the first American president to come into office fully supporting gay rights, including accepting gay marriage.
We're good to go.
We're good to go.
Completely derailed right now when we can't even speak in reality!
Men are women, sorry!
It's amazing.
I mean, I literally, I joke on the show all the time.
I'm like, I wake up most mornings being like, is there a TV camera in the room?
Like, people have to be just fucking with me.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm waiting, like, I'm the star of the Truman Show and I just, I don't know it.
No one's like, you know, please blink three times if this is all one big joke and I'm just being punked every day because you're right.
Like, the issues that are like the hills to die on for half the country, you know, or at least the Democrats in charge are like,
I'm like, I don't even understand how it's like an issue we're even talking about.
Like, given everything else going on in the world, it's almost mind-boggling.
So I guess I'd ask, if you were called to serve again in a second Trump administration, would you be down for that?
Because we actually need some people who are actually willing to fight.
Absolutely.
It was such an honor to be part of a Trump administration, and I tell you, we had collectively so many great plans for entering another four years, and I think the four-year interim here has just proven some of these things on the social crazy side that can and should and would and will be locked down tight
Just dealt with once and for all so that we can get back to making America great.
Well, Candace, thank you so much.
Will you just let our audience know how they can find you on social or whatever, wherever it may be?
Because I think, you know, they're probably interested in following, especially given the specifics of some of the stuff you're talking about.
Sure thing.
Yes.
All my all my gender battle thoughts and so forth on X, formerly Twitter, is at C E Jackson Law.
Very nice.
Well, Candice, thank you again.
Really appreciate it.
As some of this stuff evolves, as the lawfare, you know, and that, and hopefully, you know, our side pushing back on some of the insanity gets there, we'll have to talk about all those changes when they come.
So I really appreciate having you on.
Thank you so much.
Absolutely.
Take care.
Be well.
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Drea, thank you so much for being on here today.
Sorry, I didn't realize I was on there already.
Hi!
How you doing?
Did I surprise you a little bit?
We came on a little bit early?
No, no, I'm just horsing around like I always do.
Just horsing around.
Just getting my nails ready to put in my coffin for being on your show right now.
Yeah, there's a solid chance they try to kill you, but join the club.
They've been trying to kill me for eight years.
It just makes you stronger.
Well, you know, first of all, thank you for coming on.
And, you know, I want to talk politics and sort of some of the state of the country, but we got to get to some Soprano questions, because the second I said that, people were like, I've watched The Sopranos, the entire series, seven times.
I'm like, whoa, we got to make sure we take care of some of these for the fans watching.
So, you know, The Sopranos, the finale aired 17 years ago.
When I read that fact today, I was like,
How is that possible?
And yet it's still considered by many to be maybe the greatest TV show of all time.
What do you think let it have this sort of lasting power?
COVID.
Just kidding.
I'm kidding.
There's probably truth to that, right?
I saw stuff that I would never have watched because of COVID.
I was sitting at home.
I couldn't go anywhere else.
So there could be some truth to that.
I think that with Sopranos, it had something for everyone.
It was, you know,
The people that love the genre, the mafia genre, they had that.
People who love, you know, violent shows, they have it.
People who love a family show, they got it.
People who love critically acclaimed sort of shows that are like steeped in heavy duty culture and literature and stuff.
It was very Shakespearean.
We had that too.
So it kind of just kind of appealed to everybody, you know, unlike the world we're living in today.
Yeah, no, it's great.
Yeah.
Well, we'll get to that because I love that you're pushing back on some of the woke nonsense.
I mean, I wish, you know, more people in Hollywood and I've met plenty of them that like, oh, you know, I'm kind of with you.
And it's like, well, so say something.
We understand there's consequences to that, obviously.
But, you know, when you're doing a show like that, you're on for that many seasons and it's got that sort of acclaim.
What was that like when, you know, when you find out Adriana, your character,
I mean, it was, uh, it felt like a death, but at the same time, I had been playing that character.
I was never supposed to be series regular, so I felt like I had done my part, and it was okay.
I was so grateful to just being, you know, just for being able to
Playing that sandbox for as long as I did.
And when it was time to go, I was like, all right, man, I couldn't cry every day like that anymore.
In those days, I really took myself super seriously as an actor.
I mean, not that I don't really act anymore, but I just couldn't keep doing it anyway.
And the show was supposed to end, so I felt like it was okay.
That was my exit.
I was grateful.
I was okay with it.
I know a lot of the fans were not, but I was okay with it.
Well, I mean, you had a... I didn't even realize, like, I mean, obviously, you know, in thinking back, I didn't realize that you were going to be a sort of shorter-term character that ended up having, you know, quite a long runway in the show.
How did that happen?
How did that change and evolve?
I originally read for the pilot, and I thought it was about singers, soprano, like, opera singers.
And, yeah.
Surprise!
It's so stupid.
But they called me back for the series way after, but I messed up all my lines when I did the actual little tiny part of playing the hostess in the restaurant and the pilot.
I had no name.
I mean, I read for every character.
He liked me because I was Italian, David Chase, but there was nothing for me because I didn't look like this.
I didn't have all my fricking hair and I didn't have my attitude.
I was like a nice clean slate, like a nice girl next door.
Um, then when I knew what it was about and they called me back, I went in guns blazing, nameplate, diamonds, hair, accent.
I was like, let's go.
Um, but, uh, I mean, I was in my mom's house in Queens and they called and said, can you come in to read?
And I was like, no, I'm sorry.
I'm in Queens.
And they're like, well, so are we.
And my mother looked at me and she goes, we're fucking going.
She goes, I'm getting your name played out in diamonds.
And we're going, my mom was a playwright.
So she had read the pilot.
And she was like, wow, Dre, this is beautiful.
This is really amazing writing.
And it was so beautiful that we never thought that it would really have legs.
Because in those days, TV wasn't really what it is now.
Yeah, I imagine that was just entirely different.
From when you got into acting in that world, did sort of Hollywood change?
I mean, now it's sort of famously liberal in almost like an aggressive, angry way, and I'm not sure why that is.
But was it that way when you got in, or were people a little bit more open?
I, you know, I think I wasn't paying enough attention to politics or anything that was going on.
I mean, Hollywood's a political place, God knows.
I mean, everybody's always fighting.
What's amazing to me is people were always fighting
For what's right, for quality, all the things that we've been fighting for, all of us, for many years.
I think even your side of the world has been on the right side of stuff, believe it or not.
I mean, I know that your audience knows that, but people that would be in my audience would never fucking know that.
You know, they just see these categories.
But I feel like the parties have been, they've been fucking hijacked, man.
Back then, what was a liberal Hollywood vibe is not what it is today.
Today, I see an aberration of things.
I don't understand what I've been witnessing.
I've never been a part of Hollywood.
I've always sort of stayed on the outskirts of it.
I did my jobs.
I loved my jobs.
And I'm a single mom, so I just never really, I was not a career actress.
I just went job to job, take care of my family.
But I see what I see, you know?
I, you know, I never thought I would never be able to work in that industry again, until I realized that I mean, man, what happened in the last three years?
I mean, I'm sure it's been happening for 50 years, you know, in society, maybe not as much Hollywood, but Hollywood's hijacked, man.
I mean, all I do now at this point,
As I just check the shareholders everywhere I go, and I'm just like, well, you're done, and you're done, and you're done, and you're compromised, and I feel like that's the way it goes.
But the people themselves, like the actors, the players, the people that don't really understand or follow the money to try to understand, I think a lot of people aren't paying attention because they didn't have stuff taken away from them.
I lost everything when I was...
I kind of holding out to really try to understand stuff a little better.
And and that's when you start, you know, you start following the money a little bit and then holy shit.
But I think that the regular folks don't have any idea.
And if you're part of the Democrat Party, liberals, Democrats, Republicans, you less with the Republicans, I guess.
But this in the last few years, the Democrats, it feels like.
The times changed, the party changed.
And those critical thinkers, the people that used to sit around in New York City reading the New York Times all day and The Intellect, I don't understand how they didn't change with the times.
Like, they're still supposed to be critical thinkers.
Yeah, no, they're driving in their cars by themselves still wearing masks.
They totally just buy into whatever the latest thing is.
They just go hook, line, and sinker.
No one's asking the question.
No one's saying, hey, do you think maybe we got something wrong?
Even when it's objectively a fact that they got something wrong.
It's almost like they don't care because as long as we get to the ends that they want, reality, facts, logic, science, none of it actually matters.
With the fear though, I think that the fear that, I mean, I was petrified in the last three years just to, I mean, I thought my bank accounts were going to get tapped.
Not that it mattered because we ended up losing everything anyway, but just the, you know, listening to what was happening in Canada, you know, during the whole convoy and what Trudeau was doing.
I just couldn't believe that it, you know, that people were just getting,
We're criminalized for thinking things and for talking about things or texting things or supporting people that were fighting for freedom.
And I can't believe that the word freedom has become a word that gets you banned on all kinds of platforms now.
It gets you called a white nationalist.
I mean, you can't love your country anymore.
I mean, I think what's really going on is you can't really love yourself anymore.
I think that's what's happening to our children.
I think it's what's happened to a lot of people in Hollywood where it's like, no, everything's your fault.
Everything is your fault.
Racism, sexism, every single social issue, the climate.
It's your fault.
And you have to carry that burden now.
And everybody feels guilty and everybody's afraid.
I don't know how I ended up in this by mistake, man.
Yeah, how did that happen?
I mean, it's maybe not even a political journey.
It's just sort of a, or not even an awakening.
It's like, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions because something doesn't make sense.
You know, how did that start?
What made you start looking into things, not just going along with it?
What was the sort of the precipice for all that?
I mean, definitely the minute the world shut down, I thought,
Wow.
So this is happening in like, this is all happening at once.
Like how have they managed to, I just, I just couldn't, I couldn't sit with it at first.
It just didn't feel right.
And then I got caught up in it and then I felt the impact of what was happening and
You know, whether it was propaganda or not.
And we got, God knows, we've been in the middle of a lot of propaganda.
I mean, you know.
But I think for me, it was the mandate.
I thought, you know, I can get away with this.
It's going to come and go.
It might be a giant experiment.
I was wondering if it was.
I don't really, you know, I've paid attention to conspiracies before, but so many of them have been coming true.
Like all of them.
Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm not gonna say that I didn't always sort of pay attention.
You know, back in the Bush administration, I was definitely sort of hip to what was happening.
And then I kind of went back to sleep.
But that's because in my mind back then, you know, the Republicans were off doing the crappy shit.
I wasn't paying attention to the fact that it's just, it's just a through line.
I don't think this is about parties anymore.
I think this is about humanity and what's happening behind
The parties and I know I feel like I feel like I need to come and hang out with you and talk to you behind the scenes off the live but but I feel like there's so much more at stake than what the American people even know right now.
Oh, I agree.
And I was one of those guys that, you know, I legit, I wanted to believe that like, hey, you know, it's our government.
They're looking out for our best interests.
You know, the FBI says that someone's a bad guy.
They must really be a bad guy.
I guess I didn't learn enough from, you know, the J. Edgar Hoover days.
I just assumed that, you know, we're past that now.
It's different.
And, you know, until
I guess for me it was until I was literally a target of these things, you know, number two, probably target in like Russia, Russia, Russia after my father.
I'm like, wait, like, wait a minute, like the head of the intelligence committee and the FBI, they're saying I'm a Russian asset.
Like, I'm like, ah, like maybe I took a selfie with someone that like, I don't know, but you know, I take thousands a day, but you know, maybe I did that, but like, you know, but like even still, even they're starting to go after me.
I'm like, well, there's gotta be something to it.
No, it's all fucking bullshit.
There was nothing to it.
It didn't matter.
It was just,
Something to get them where they needed to be, and something to be able to drive that narrative, and like, that was scary to wake up to, because it's like, oh my god, like, this notion of America that, you know, I wanted to believe in, like, it's all bullshit.
It doesn't exist.
It's totally fictitious at this point.
I know.
I mean, I believe in the people, though.
Yeah, no, by the way, I'm fighting to get to that point, to get to that reality, right?
Yes.
But how do you with this media machine behind you where they're infiltrating the airwaves?
I mean, I'm sitting here with all these freaking hats.
My friend Jennifer makes these hats.
I mean, wear that hat walking down the street and everyone is like, dig your hat, dig your hat.
And I'm like, so are you hip?
Like, are you ready to speak out?
Are we ready to stand together and fight for what's right?
Like, I can't.
I got outed because I started that crazy OnlyFans page to get out of foreclosure.
That was my story.
Had I not spoken to Fox and tried to mitigate what my situation was, no one would have even known my problems and the fact that I did all of this over the mandates and that I held out.
As hard and as tough as I could without, you know, having to go beg for money at some point.
I'm gonna be coming to ask you guys for a job soon now that I'm doing this show.
I mean, I'm gonna go run one of these buildings.
We can make something happen.
We'll put you in charge of health and human services.
You can go blow these fuckers up.
I like it, you know.
But because the reality is most of the clowns that they put in charge, they don't know crap either.
Like, it doesn't, like, it's just, it's insane.
So we're seeing that.
So
Tell, you know, for those who may not know in the audience, sort of talk about that story where, you know,
Yeah.
I mean, we originally were going to put up a podcast on OnlyFans and talk about politics, and I knew that it wouldn't be censored because it was up there.
That was the original intent.
But my kids' friends were joking around, come on, Dre, just put your feet up.
Just put a bikini picture up, because I never do it on Instagram.
There's no pictures of me like that in the world.
I don't take selfies, and I don't understand that culture.
And I was like, but what if I did it?
So I put one picture up to hold my place there and to just say, hey, I joined OnlyFans.
And that picture did go through the roof.
And I think people just couldn't believe that I would, in their words, I guess, some people thought it was sensational.
Others thought that I really stooped really low.
And I was like, I don't give a fuck what you think.
Yeah.
We're about to lose our home.
I paid back the real estate company in a minute.
I didn't pay off my mortgage, but I paid off the real estate company.
Then, you know, the fake news got a fake, they got, they got it wrong.
I didn't pay off my mortgage, but, um, but we were able to take care of stuff.
And I was able to not have to beg to stay within this industry that I don't really care to be in at the moment, especially if there aren't any, you know, amazing roles.
So, you know, I gave an interview to Fox.
They wanted to know why I did that.
And I gave that interview and that was it, man.
I was off to the races.
And I knew that once it was out there that I stood down on the vaccine mandate.
It was, there weren't, I just couldn't get back in my cage.
You know, I've been quiet my whole life.
I was never a personality in Hollywood.
Super quiet, super shy, not outspoken, and now all of a sudden I'm at the forefront.
Of non-stop politics and I'm not, I don't, you know, I'm continuously evolving.
I will change with the times.
I may think one thing one year and then it's going to change when new information pops out.
I feel like a lot of people are not changed.
They're just holding on to this sort of virtue of their party that is so meaningless to me.
Like right now,
Not a personality contest.
I know you've heard that, you know, when people talk about your dad and personally his personality.
I mean, I like you.
I mean, I'm a New Yorker, man.
I mean, whatever.
But listen, I did vote for freaking Joe Biden at that time.
And I'll tell you exactly why.
And I've never voted in my life, by the way, because I've always thought that it was a game.
I always thought it was bullshit.
And I always thought they were paid, bought, sold, all working together.
I think there's a lot of truth to that.
I think we're figuring that out now.
Oh yeah, for sure, man.
And so I never voted until I was caught up in the emotion of some of my friends that were illegal.
And I needed to get them to New York, and I hired a tour bus and an armed driver to get my friends across the country when your dad was in office.
And man, when we look at that situation now, all of us, even the illegals, right?
My friends.
They're like, hey, wait, this is going too far.
We're like, hold on, did we have this shit wrong?
We did not realize what was happening at all.
And that's why I say we're evolving and changing.
We have to be accountable and we have to be able to change and not feel embarrassed that we might make a mistake and recognize that we didn't know what we were talking about.
And then my other friend's company made these hats.
Hilarious.
Sloppy tease.
But I feel like, yeah, I, you know, man, I didn't know when I voted.
My daughter was like, you know, I think you should just do it and just, you know, because we have to protect our friends and stuff.
And now
Yeah, we don't have the same feelings.
Hey, you may have to do like a new hat for your friend.
We'll do like illegals for Trump.
They all are.
Listen, I want a little piece of the action if we do this one, but like, but yeah, but that's the difference, right?
When, you know, my mom's an immigrant.
I don't think we're not anti-immigrant, but there's a process.
When I'm looking at
You know, 12 million people, and I see our school systems are disastrous as they are.
Our healthcare systems are overwhelmed.
Like, you know, it's probably not affecting people like myself that much.
It's affecting, you know, some of the lowest income earners who are trying to break through and doing it, and they're going to get crushed.
And the systems that are already, you know, barely getting by and compromised are getting so much worse.
So, I mean,
It is an interesting thing to see what's going on.
It's like, you too can have your, you know, MS-13 left in your backyard.
I'm like, I don't know, it doesn't seem like a great idea, but, you know, what do I know?
I'm not even, I'm thinking beyond that at this point, when you let that many able-bodied men come over here in that way with, you know, things on their ankles and all that kind of stuff.
It feels heavily weighted towards able-bodied fighting age men, right?
You know, from the Middle East.
I just don't know that they're here to support the American people.
I'd say that's a really safe bet.
I know some of your former co-stars from the show.
I met them in New York.
I don't feel like a lot of those guys were leftist liberals.
Who?
I'm not going to call out anyone because I don't need to do that shit to them.
If they want to come out, I'll happily talk with them.
I am.
I'm a fucking leftist liberal.
Well, you know, perhaps, but are there more conservatives sort of out there in Hollywood and in the industry, but they just feel like they have to...
Have to shut up.
I mean, are there people that have your thoughts on, you know, the vaccine or the shutdowns or the sort of oppressive government regimes?
And they're just like, but you know what?
It's easy.
I got a good life in Hollywood.
I just don't want to challenge that.
Cause I feel like those people, you know, many cases, you know, you know, leading, you know, pop culture, like that could wake up so many people.
If you had more people that just had the guts to do what you're doing.
Well, like I said, I don't know that I ever would have just... I wanted to.
I really did want to fight, but I didn't think that I had, A, the voice, B, the balls.
Like, I just didn't... I kind of got thrown to the wolves, I felt like.
And once I was out there, I was like, I'm out.
What am I going to do?
I'm out of my cage.
Like, I may as well just, you know, do what I got to do.
And I do feel like...
I'm supported, you know, by my boyfriend.
But I know this sounds crazy, but my God, my children, my children are.
They believe in what we believe in, which is which is freedom and unity the right way, not unity the way this administration was trying to push, because that's that was bullshit.
They took every social agenda and use that use these social issues as pawns to further their administration.
Did nothing but divide people.
The social issues even your dad like I don't care about that stuff.
I, whenever I, whenever I think about your dad too I'm like I don't think he cares about that stuff as much I think he cares about what's really going on which is
Behind the scenes.
And those are the things that need to be addressed before anybody's going to have freedom with any social issues.
But this administration has just been hammering all of these things.
And people in Hollywood are petrified.
What, are you going to speak out against race and sex and all of that stuff?
People are afraid to have those conversations because, first of all, you never win.
We're good to go.
But I'm just so open.
That's the thing.
Liberals are supposed to be open-minded.
You're supposed to be open.
Maybe not the parties, because we know the parties get hijacked.
There's one party in Washington, D.C.
That's the Uni Party.
They may tell their people at home a little different thing, but in the end it feels like there's very few people
That, you know, that are representing us, that are supposed to represent XYZ, they're sort of doing the bidding of the swamp.
And, you know, I think we've seen that.
It's why we're rallying so hard against that.
I think it's why, you know, frankly, with my father, it's why so many, even on, you know, our side, quote-unquote, you know, do whatever they can to, you know, subvert him, to undermine him, you know, at every opportunity they get.
He's a beast.
Every single day he ends up in that courtroom, I'm like, well, you just
It's more PR, people are rallying behind him even more now, because I think even Democrats, the people, not the industry folk, but they're just like, how can you do all of, but then I don't understand a lot of these, the people that are not really paying attention, they really believe that these cases are real.
I don't understand.
I'm having a hard time with the poly crisis of it all myself.
It's just, they're just grasping, man.
Yeah, it's the people who, you know, they're still like, you know, watching CNN, pretending like that's news and instead of like propaganda, you know, it's sort of amazing, you know, and again, to your point, and you know, mine, I started sort of waking up to it during, you know, during Russia, Russia, Russia, and the hoax that that was only because, you know, I was a target.
So all of a sudden, it became so much more real, you're paying attention to this, then
You know, then same, you know, similar thoughts to you as it relates to COVID and all of those things.
And that was like, wait a minute, what is going on here?
Like, you know, this Fauci clown is like, it's the whole thing's, you know, nuts.
But yeah, there are those people and I get it.
Like it's, you know, maybe you were that way a long time.
It's sort of politically agnostic.
They hear a little bit of noise in the background.
Well, that must be true.
And yet, I'm like, man, how can you think anything's true given the world in which we live?
You watch what's going on, and, you know, Joe Biden will call, you know, half the country fascists, and yet he's literally there trying to jail his political opponents.
I'm like, I don't know.
It sounds kind of like a fascist.
It's the irony.
Like, how does that— How does that get lost on people at this point?
It's still shocking to me.
It's like some crazy Maoist vibe that we're going through.
My daughter is always studying the history of things, the history of communism, all that stuff.
It's mind-blowing.
I remember back in 2010.
My ex, Shooter, had an album called Black Ribbons, and Stephen King narrates it.
And it's the night before the apocalypse.
It's the night before all the airwaves get taken down and commandeered by a new world order and all this stuff.
And this was the Bush administration, and Stephen King narrates it.
And I always joke around, if we were to ask him to narrate it now,
He wouldn't have, but it's the same exact administration.
And yeah, I mean, in my mind, at least different political lines.
But yeah, it's it's exactly the same thing.
So he's against it then, but not now when it's happening in the same way.
But you have to this album is is a concept album about America at that time.
And we did a music video about forced vaccinations and mass graves and all this stuff.
And my daughter stars in the video.
And that was in 2010.
And it's pretty amazing to watch.
They took it off Instagram when I posted it during the pandemic.
Of course they did!
Because that's a hundred years ago.
And they took it down.
But everybody should go watch that because it's like, wow, it was coming.
And we all knew it was coming.
And that was 2010.
So you also have a streetwear brand called Ultrafree.
Talk about that business and ultimately its mission.
Well, I mean, it was ultra free.
I got it on the Soprano version of it to today.
That was to get out of the OnlyFans thing.
I did the OnlyFans thing.
We started paying for some stuff, got out of debt.
And then I used the rest of the money to start up the company and try to promote freedom because
We need to do that right now.
I mean, the clothing line obviously means something to us.
It's a streetwear line.
It's, you know, it was inspired by my son who loves all the streetwear stuff.
And my boyfriend is the drummer from All Them Witches, and he's like a real outdoors guy.
So, you know, we'd be kind of moving into the outdoors vibe stuff.
But, you know, we caught some heat for it for guns and
And people seem to have forgotten about Guns N' Roses, Velvet Revolver, Sex Pistols, The Sopranos.
I mean, but now they want to call us, you know, white nationalists, you know, because we have a gun on a t-shirt.
But it's like, come on man, like everybody stopped being so fucking precious.
But it is promoting freedom and it's also trying to say no more labels.
There's no left, there's no right.
It's just,
We're all human beings.
We all need to come together and we need to fight this thing that's way more evil than political parties and your neighbors.
Like, everybody needs to stand together right now because America's in trouble.
Yeah, well, yeah, we got to get your... We got to get ultra-free on Public Square and some of these places so that, you know, again, you know, I don't think Google's going to do much help getting it out there for you and stuff like that.
Just like Instagram was suppressing you 14 years ago for basic messaging.
That's the important thing.
I mean, I think people do understand now that, you know, my opinion and someone on the left's opinion, they're not getting the same weight.
I can have millions of followers and they can have three and they'll outperform me because there are, you know, major hands on the scale of sort of what is truth and what is acceptable discourse, you know, out there right now.
But I do think it's gotten so extreme that people are getting it and they're looking to, you know, to other venues.
Yeah.
Oh, Rumble.
I mean, I love Rumble.
I love Getter.
But Rumble's my favorite.
Rumble's been my go-to for the last three years, I would say.
I really appreciate it.
And I actually watched a little bit of your interview with the CEO.
It's
It's great.
And it's important.
It's so important right now.
Otherwise we're going to lose people.
I just, the youth doesn't understand what's happening.
The youth may be a little more, especially if they have a mom like me, because I'll be out there.
My mom was like that also.
My mom escaped communism, like literally left, you know, escaped communist Czechoslovakia because she was an Olympic skier and was like, I'm out.
Then, you know, came here legally and did that.
But like, yeah, so I think I didn't have a choice.
Like there was going to be no Marxism or socialism in my household growing up because she was like, listen, you asshole.
Like, you know, I left this shit like that.
That's it.
Like, so it's a little different.
It's amazing that my daughter's friends, one of her best friends is Russian, so that wasn't going to happen.
But these kids talk about communism like it's the ideal.
I remember when I was a kid, it was like, yeah, man, that would be so cool if we were all just sort of sharing.
But it never ends that way.
It never works.
I mean, I am a capitalist through and through, man.
But, you know, in the best way possible.
It's just the kids don't get it yet and they need real leaders and parents.
The new way of parenting is also, you know, sometimes makes me sad about, you know, we don't say no, we don't say never, we don't say don't.
Oh, hell no.
These kids need to have discipline and learn and know, you know, everybody needs a big Italian mom.
100%.
I think it's that discipline that's lacking right now that's the cause of so many of the problems.
Everyone has to be right, even if they're wrong.
You can't hurt... Everything's based on feelings, not reality.
And kids just grow up... Honestly, they're just growing up to be total pussies, and it's like they can't handle the real world, and then they get in the real world, and all of a sudden, they can't handle that.
And it's like, what...
What future can they possibly have if they can't deal with being misgendered?
What happens when something actually real happens to them in their lives and they just totally collapse?
It doesn't seem like it's a recipe for success.
No, it's insanity.
Blackjack, my son, is misgendered all day long, if that's what the word is for misgendered.
He's got hair down here.
He's like, no, I really am a boy.
And they're like, it's OK.
You're so cute.
And I'm like, no, the boy was born with a...
We're just hippies, man.
But, so, you know, I don't know enough about the details, but I do gotta ask, there must be, like, are there, like, DMs on OnlyFans?
Like, what are some of the most outrageous things that, like, you saw with people, like, requests, or, you know, you sort of mentioned, like, hey, we put a bikini picture up, like, you know, I'm trying to still figure out, like, the whole foot fetish guy thing, like, what the hell's going on with that one?
Is that thing real?
That's real?
Like, there's guys that, like, that's their thing, huh?
Listen, I will put my feet in front of that camera all day and take your fucking money.
I don't care.
It's my feet and I got good feet, but I mean, I don't, I also really don't take myself that seriously.
In the beginning I was like, Oh my God, I can't believe I'm doing this.
Like people are saying terrible things about me and now I just don't care, man.
Like I'm not doing anything that's crazy.
And I think my, my, it's like a fan page for me instead of being on, you know, on, on, on the antichrist social media.
But,
Yeah.
But I feel like they're respectful of me.
You know, I do, I talk in real time to fans whenever they know I'm about to be on and stuff.
We do live streams and talk, but it's no different than, because people know that it's me.
They're not going to try and ask me for crazy stuff.
Do you know what I mean?
Like they know I'm an actor trying to make a living right now in this crazy corrupt world.
But, um, the one thing that I will say is funny is when they ask you to do something in a custom, because, you know, they're like cameos.
Okay.
And they're supposed to be a certain amount of time long.
And I'm like, slow down, buddy.
I'm not gonna do this as long as you need to take care of yourself.
I need 17 and a half minutes of, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Three minutes of your feet.
And I'm like, no.
God, but you know I see them.
I see the the requests and stuff and you know my kids and even my kids sometimes we're all you know it's kind of like a it's like a fan it's like family time at this point we're like oh my god mommy's doing OnlyFans but it's it's it is what it is man.
Yeah, listen, hey, it seems like it was something that made a lot of sense for you.
And, you know, there's going to be people that are critical of that, but like, you know, they're not dealing with your problems.
They don't have to pay your mortgage.
They don't have to like, I don't know.
I don't I don't have an issue with it, if that's what's right.
And, you know, like you said, you're a capitalist.
Why not take advantage of it?
Look, at that time, man, I couldn't use I didn't want to use a vaccine card.
I had one to take my kids out to eat so they could feel normal, you know, take them to the theater.
We felt like we were killing people.
Walking into places, um, not being vaccinated at that time, thinking that that was really might be a thing, you know?
And, um, my daughter, when, when it really came down to the final hour of me turning down jobs and little jobs here and there, um, my daughter was like, just don't use the card.
Don't fake it.
Don't lie mama.
And I was like, I won't, I won't do it.
I, you know, I had to do that for the kids.
I could have never pretended or lied.
A lot of my friends were like, you should just,
You know, use that card and I'm like, I'm not, I'm not, I don't believe in it.
I believe that we should be free to choose all you free choicers out there.
This is free choice, man.
It's my body.
I'm not going to contaminate somebody.
We all knew it wasn't about that at one point.
Um, so yeah, I mean the OnlyFans thing to me is just, I don't care, you know, is just a means to an end at that point.
Like,
And I'm not, you know, I'm not on there.
Sorry guys, but I'm not on there really doing any porn.
There's a lot of people that have pages that are kind of basic pages and that's it.
Hey, you probably shouldn't have said that because there could be a bunch of subscribers that are going, you know, just crazy.
I'm doing crazy stuff on there.
Who am I to judge?
You know, as someone who does, you know, maybe, you know, lead them to believe that then, you know, they could be disappointed.
I never took my clothes off since Sopranos.
So I'm back there doing what I did best on the Sopranos, running around in my panties.
What can I say?
Yeah, but you're saying feed pics are not off-limits for the, for the... Oh, no.
You'll see.
Anybody can do this.
Hey, feed people.
I don't know who you are.
I'm not saying it's my thing.
I don't understand it myself, but I don't have to.
Everyone's got their thing.
And, you know, so, you know, that's still an option.
So you can check it out.
You know, a lot of people are coming on there and just chatting with me about what's happening in the world right now.
And that's kind of been
The tone for a while now, which I think is pretty interesting.
A lot of military.
Yeah.
A lot of guys that are being called back, recalled.
Yeah, no, I mean, I sort of do that.
You know, there's locals on Rumble and stuff.
I'll go there and do sort of the AMA after all of these shows.
I'll be doing that tonight and, you know, just asking those questions.
What's going on?
What do you think on the inside?
I try to be as honest as I can.
You know, sometimes I'll just do an entire show.
It's just literally, you know, answering questions from the live chat because
Uh, you know, it's interesting.
People do seem to be, you know, understand that, hey, the way they used to get their news doesn't have to be grounded in reality.
And so, you know, they're asking real questions.
They understand, like, life is harder now than it was.
They understand some of the manipulation that's going on where, you know, we're looking at, like, multiple wars happening in the world.
And, like, one day we may have to actually fight these things.
It's not just
Cash anymore.
Uh, you know, it feels like really scary times, which is why more people probably do have to find out the truth that they can't just sit on those sidelines and just be like, well, it's, you know, I live in New York, so it's easier to be a liberal.
I'm like, I don't know, man, that won't work forever.
Uh, if they keep sort of manipulating that to get what they want and then ultimately weaponizing it against that against so much of the population.
Yeah, I think so too.
And again, like the labels and stuff, and that was part of the whole ultra free thing.
It's like if people are afraid to not be a liberal or to be a Republican, they just get rid of the fucking labels.
Get rid of all of them and just really come to the middle and start really researching what's happening in the world and understanding what the wars really are about.
I mean, I don't really think half America understood what was really happening between Ukraine and Russia.
At that time, you know.
By the way, I don't think they still do.
I mean, I think there's people that literally are like, well, Russia's, you know, just a purely aggressor.
We must kill everyone in that country because Ukraine was this great democracy.
I was like, no, no, no.
Like, Ukraine was ranked as one of the most corrupt countries anywhere in the world, far more so than Russia.
We kept threatening to bring Ukraine into NATO, which was the only red line that Putin literally... I mean, he told my dad this even, like, but it was always like, you had a 500,000 mile long buffer zone between NATO border and Russia.
For 60 years, since the end of World War II, we're now gonna uncroach it?
Like, we gave them every excuse imaginable to... I'm not saying he's a good guy, I'm not saying he wouldn't have done it, but like,
You know, we pretend like we're these innocent actors in these things.
We're talking about bringing Ukraine into NATO just last week.
Our Secretary of State, like, so we're officially at war with Russia and we're obligated.
Well, if you don't, they're gonna march through the rest of Europe.
It's like, no, they aren't.
It's bullshit.
We're making the decisions because someone in the CIA who has a vested interest made a report that tells me that this is what, like,
Like, we're still pretending that these guys are, like, gonna be honest?
Like, no, they have an agenda, they want to get somewhere, they're gonna give anyone a tailor-made report to get to the exact conclusion that they want.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Like, that's the reality of the world in which we live today.
If you don't believe that's happening, if you think that these people are functioning, you know, for what's best for our country and not for their wallets or their friends' wallets or, like, like...
Or power?
Like, you haven't been paying attention at all.
And I don't mean just over the last 8 years, I mean probably over the last 50 years.
Oh yeah.
I mean, even when the whole thing started popping off and that none of my friends even understood what was going on in 2014, you know, with our own country and our own involvement over there in Russia and over, you know, the whole Victoria Nuland thing.
I was just like, what, how are you guys not hip to this?
There's phone calls, phone calls.
And I just never understood how nobody,
Cared enough to understand before they'd speak out.
Look, I don't care if you don't understand what's going on, and you say, I don't really know what's going on.
I can dig that.
But when you have such a fucking toxic opinion about it, and you can't back down from that opinion, but you know nothing about the subject, that to me is the most dangerous thing.
I guess that's just stupidity, and that's super dangerous.
And that's...
Man.
You know, it's scary.
You're right.
It's like that left, it's like, all is wrong, never in doubt.
Like, you know, it doesn't matter.
Like, it's like, well, here are the actual facts.
It's like, literally, objective facts, even as reported by the insane people that they follow, who are just regime propagandists at this point.
I'm like, but even they're saying it's a lie.
No, no, no.
Russia, Russia, Russia was real.
I'm like, where have, like, this person votes.
I mean, how is it possible?
Put missiles facing America and see what we do.
I mean, come on.
Although at this point, they might want missiles facing America because then they can, I don't know, figure out how to ramp it up and a couple of guys in the country a little more to get us off the, you know, to get everybody on one.
On $1.
Yeah, no, Drea, like, war is, like, DC-only fans.
Okay?
That's like... Oh, I know.
That's how they get their mortgage paid.
It's like, oh, war.
Yeah, 100%.
This never ends.
Yeah.
No, this is scary times, man.
I mean, the amount of things going on all in the name of money at the end of the day is pretty intense.
I don't care what anybody says.
It's still all frickin' money.
Well, Elissa, I appreciate that you're speaking out about it and willing to do so.
Hopefully, you know, hopefully that starts something else, you know, with the people that would be, you know, in your peer group and other actors and, you know, whatever it may be, man.
The more people that are talking about this, the better.
So, you know, I just, I appreciate that you have the guts and, you know, I always say balls because it's much better and you can say that on Rumble without getting canceled.
I got the balls!
Hey!
Yeah, you got the balls.
I'm gonna call you Donny T and I got the balls over here.
Well, Dre, thank you so much.
Where can everyone find you on your various things?
I want everyone to go check out Ultra Free Apparel.
Where can they do that?
Can they follow you on social?
We gotta get you on Rumble, by the way.
You should be talking about these things.
Well, it's ultrafreeds.co is the website.
It's pretty psychedelic, guys, out there, but we're trying to make freedom cool again, rock and roll, you know what I'm saying?
And then our Instagram is ultrafree with two A's, that's the same on Twitter.
However, we're sort of
You know, it's new.
The socials are new for us and we don't really, we're kind of blocked on Instagram, but... Yeah, I used to get 10 times the amount of likes that I get now with a lot fewer, yeah, my average post was like, you know, 350 to 400, you know, 500,000 likes.
Now it's like, if I get 50, it's like, it's a big day.
Like, so yeah, no one who's not already following me, seeing me, it's brutal.
Yeah, you have to really, you have to spell my whole name out to get me on Instagram.
And that's where I'm the most active.
I don't really know much about Twitter.
I never used it really, but you know, I try here and there.
And then Rolling Stone will run my tweets and say that I, you know, that I subscribe to quacks and things, you know.
Yeah, no, listen, you're a white supremacist, you're a fascist, it's just the easy button for the left.
If they can't argue with you, if they can't win with facts, they just, you know, you're a racist, you're a misogynist, you're a homophobe, whatever, it doesn't matter, it doesn't have to be true.
And we're hippies!
Yeah.
We're like the psycho hippies, man, but we're realists too.
And we love everybody.
So, you know, why y'all hatin' on everybody over there?
That's not love.
That's not liberty.
That's not liberalism.
That's psychosis, man.
Well, listen, I'm different than that.
I actually, I've gotten to the point where now I hate everybody, but I hate them all equally.
Okay?
So there's- I think that's funny!
Like, you know, I hate everybody equally.
I don't like anyone anymore, but everyone is hated with equal fervor.
I like it.
I think that we should all be able to hate and love and be who we are, but you have reason to be pissed off about shit, man.
You really do.
It's a witch hunt, man, and it's out of control.
Well, Drea, thank you so much for being here.
I really appreciate it.
Guys, check her out on social.
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Thanks for having me, man.
Thank you.
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