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The Hunt for Prosperity: Texas Congressman Wesley Hunt on How we Win in 2024 | TRIGGERED Ep.104
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of triggered Today we're being joined by one of our favorite congressmen, the one and only Wesley Hunt from the great state of Texas.
Congressman Hunt is a West Point grad.
He was an Army Apache helicopter pilot.
The first time he was ever on Trigger, he actually changed his pronouns to Apache Helicopter,
so we all must recognize those because those are the rules.
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And last time he was on the show, he also said, and you guys all said, that you loved
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Okay, joining me now, guys, Congressman from Texas' 38th District, West Point grad, Army veteran, Apache helicopter pilot.
He actually, on the show the first time, changed his pronouns right there in real time to Apache helicopter, so we must acknowledge that, okay?
Those are the rules. We just play by them, okay?
But truly a MAGA, America First rock star, Wesley Hunt.
Congressman, good to have you back on here, buddy.
Sorry, Apache helicopter.
You know what? If we're going to do pronouns, if that's what I want to be called, damn it, you're going to call me that.
Apache pilot American.
Yeah, listen, it's so much better than, like, zim-zer-thims.
I'm like, some of this other stuff, like, these aren't even words, let alone, so if I'm going to be known as something, like, I'm going to come up with something kick-ass, like, you know.
But, so, you know, Apache helicopters, you know, it's legit.
I can actually let that slide.
But Don, not only that, but I'm going to demand that you call me that.
Even if you don't know, even if you can't tell, I'm going to demand that you call me Apache Pilot.
I'm okay with that. That's the one time I will bend the knee to the insanity of pronouns.
The one time. I got to be careful how far I take it, because sometimes we get a little bit like this, and Kim's like, okay!
Hey, there's people listening. That's enough.
That's enough. They're giving the hook.
So you were out there last week on Monday in Iowa with us.
We all sort of split up, divide and conquer, cover those things.
And then I was basically in bed.
Kim's much more social than me. It was like 11 o'clock.
All the stuff was in. DJT just leaves.
I'm in bed. Naked, about to go to sleep, and she calls like, hey, Wesley's downstairs, Byron's downstairs, Matt Gaetz.
I'm like, you're going to make me put my pants on, aren't you?
So I did. I put my pants back on, I came downstairs, and I'm not exactly sure what time we left, but it wasn't early.
No, it was not. Kim was literally there, like, hurting sheep, like, you know, is that person pressed?
Is that person pressed? Because, like, the conversation we were having would probably be a liability to the rest of our political futures.
I think to real Americans, though, they would get it.
So we had some fun there.
We had too much fun.
And what I really want people to understand is those conversations that we had in that speakeasy, man, and just hanging out, chopping it up like regular people, regular Americans.
You're exactly right.
That's the kind of thing that people want us to see.
They want us to know that we are just having real conversations about our country, how to make things better, laughing, joking, probably being a bit inappropriate.
But at the end of the day, man, we're just having a good time and sharing stories.
And I think That's the side that a lot of Americans want to see more of us.
And that's why I was very glad to share that with you.
And then for those that are watching and listening, Don is the most fun.
Too much fun!
I call Kimberly, you know, Kimberly voice of reason.
When we were, you know, let's just say we may have been like recreating a meme and it was like me on a couch and you and Byron Donald's behind me.
And I was like, you know, she's like, what are you guys doing?
I'm like, Isn't this, like, we're supposed to be able to have fun like this?
Yeah, sure, it's totally inappropriate, but, like, the fact that, like, friends can actually do that, you know, the other side has beaten, you know, everything out of humor.
You're not allowed to make those jokes, and I'd say, you know, obviously that was MLK Day, right?
So people, you know, there's a lot of sort of stuff going on back and forth throughout the day, and, you know, we're just having fun, and I think that was sort of the ultimate expression of where America has gone, that we can joke around about those things and be totally...
You know, totally funny.
And then, you know, having the people that are a little bit more reasonable, perhaps panicking, but it's like, that's what it's all about.
That's the point. That's the point.
And the second that we stopped doing that as this country, you know, you and I were talking about, actually, we kind of grew up around the same era, like in the 80s and 90s, where, like, you know, you could actually be funny, and Richard Pryor was actually funny, and Eddie Murphy was actually funny, and we could get away with things that were a bit edgy, but we didn't take each other too seriously.
And the left is stealing all the joy from everything.
And I'm seeing this thing kind of come full circle.
I'm seeing Americans just like us being like, you know what?
Like, I'm not going to adhere to that.
Like, you're not going to take my fun away.
Yeah, we're going to be edgy. Yeah, we're going to have fun.
And yeah, we get to say whatever we want to say because this is America.
It's a free country. Can we just have a good time?
Can we joke, please? It was funny, so we're sitting there in a room, and there's political consultants and pollsters, and you, me, and Byron, we're reenacting probably one of the last great comedic skits that was probably pushing the boundaries of race these days.
And when we started talking about Clayton Bigsby, the black-white supremacist, you could see all the consultants were like, And then you, me, and Byron just are cracking up, because it's one of the great skits of all time, but in the world of politics, you see that.
Everyone's so guided by that, whereas I think, again, the ultimate expression of...
Not being racist is actually being able to joke about this with your friends, right?
It's the irony of Clayton Bigsby.
We're talking about a black, white supremacist.
I mean, he's poking fun at the very issue.
How much time you got?
Kind of lingers rice?
Sounded like a Mexican dick?
So, yeah, just set the table for everyone watching.
I mean, this was like a 45-minute, like, I mean, we took the skit for, like, so much further than the actual skit ever went, but it was a blast.
But you could see, like, Matt Gaetz, like, guys that you can see are just relaxed and fun.
We're having a blast. Other people were like, um, am I allowed to laugh?
Like, I'm like, we're good.
Like, it's fun. We're not the communists.
You can still have a sense of humor.
Exactly. So what did you think?
You were on the ground there, and thank you so much for that.
I mean, you know, your work, I know, again, you, Matt, Byron, you know, a bunch.
Kerry Lake was all over the place. We all sort of split up.
We divided and conquered, go speak at these precincts.
I got to speak right after Nikki Haley, which was...
Fun. For a person like me, that was fun because I don't have to give the canned, you know, sort of same old speech.
You loved it. She was thrilled to sit there and be like, oh really?
Like, I can't wait to respond to this.
And the press reluctantly had to admit that I got more applause than she did by a significant margin because, well, I'm not a phony and I'm also a Republican, unlike her.
But... What was your sentiment on the ground, you know, as you went around and sort of did these events and, you know, spoke at the precincts and stuff like that?
I mean, because to me it felt really, really good.
And I'm, unfortunately, you know, not really a rookie at this.
I've now done this. This is my third cycle, you know, doing this at a pretty high level.
You know, it's confirmation for what I've seen in Iowa for the past few years.
You know, my wife was born and raised in Iowa, so I spend at least, you know, three times a year up there in the eastern part of the state.
And the amount of support that I have seen, not just this past week and then the caucuses, but for the past few years, has been very consistent with what we saw a couple of days ago.
And the idea that President Trump One, by 30 points is astronomical.
It almost tripled the record that we've seen in the history of this country for the Republican Party in the Iowa caucuses.
What that tells you is this.
This is going way beyond this Republican Party.
This is going now to every single American that is fed up and sick of what we've seen over the course of the past few years.
30 points is insane.
Yeah. And the energy that we saw on the ground, the victory party afterward, by the way, you and your brother were looking pretty solid up there, standing next to each other, like two bookends.
And being there at the party, seeing the energy, dude, I cannot imagine a world that we didn't wake up in November and Donald Trump's our president again.
And the fact that we were able to send that first shot across the bow and make such a strong appearance in that first state.
Man, I'm really excited for New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina, and I think your dad's going to win every single state in the Republican primary.
It was funny watching the leftists meltdown.
He gave a speech where he was literally talking.
He's like, you know, listen, it's now time for unity.
And by the way, it wasn't just like unity within the Republican Party.
It was unity. I want Democrats.
He was joking backstage. And I say, hey, we'll even unify with the communists in this.
We're not going to give them what they want. I was like, maybe not.
Don't say that. Because the Marxists and the communists, we want some unity too.
But it was like, we're not going to give them anything they want.
But like, you know. We're happy to welcome him into the fold.
I was like, you know what?
It was classic Trump, right?
It's really funny, but I was like, why don't we just talk about the non-sociopaths?
I know we want to welcome everyone.
It's about addition at this point.
But I thought that was such an important message as well, because you can see it.
I guess I'd start with your bird's eye view, being both in Congress But also, as a, you know, a congressman from Texas where you have a border crisis like we've never seen before, the Biden disasters, you know, they're legitimately driving our country off a cliff.
I mean, last week Jamie Dimon was like...
Um, well, you know, maybe we shouldn't vilify Trump as bad.
He was actually right about a lot of things and the policies were pretty good.
Maybe I didn't love the way he said it.
I was like, wait a minute, Jamie Dimon, like the guy that they wanted to literally have replaced Joe Biden as a Democrat, was actually...
That was sort of interesting, you know?
But the sell of Build Back Better, nothing's built.
Nothing's back. Nothing's better.
It's a disaster. Can you think of anything that Joe Biden has done to make life better for just...
Ordinary Americans or common sense Americans.
We were joking about this one the other night.
The other movie was like the Truman Show.
I'm like waiting for a camera to fall out of the ceiling because they must be just filming me because it's so far out of whack it makes no sense.
I can't think of a single thing that he has done to make this country better in three years.
Like, not a single thing. I mean, other than maybe his love for ice cream, and then maybe he has helped out the ice cream industry for chocolate, chocolate chip.
I don't know. But other than that, man, no.
And being in Texas, the border that we are seeing is unbelievably It's horrible.
It's beyond anyone's imagination.
And it's the worst I've seen in my entire lifetime.
Eight million people entering our country illegally?
Are you kidding me? Enough fentanyl pouring into this country to kill every single American at least five times.
And your dad talks about this all the time.
Why are we allowing people to kill our fellow Americans by smuggling drugs into our sovereign nation?
That clearly right now is not a sovereign nation.
This is the worst inflation we've seen in our lifetime.
And when you start to add all these things up, this is how you get a 30 point win in Iowa.
This is how no one can touch you.
This is why everybody realizes this one simple question.
Am I better off now or was I better off four years ago?
And the answer is quite obvious, brother.
Yeah, no, it was funny. You mentioned 30 points, but it was funny watching the Democrats be like, oh, it should be 100 points.
That's a lot. Just for perspective, the largest ever, ever in history margin in a Republican caucus in Iowa was 12 points.
It didn't matter when. 12.
So this is... It was like 31...
It's literally almost three times that.
And they're like, why didn't he win 100%?
Ridiculous. It's so insane.
But that's what we're up against.
None of it has to make sense.
But, you know, down in Texas, you know, every...
It's not even Texas anymore now.
Every state is a border state.
For example, even up in Maine, there's reports about the state building apartment buildings.
So illegals can live rent-free.
I mean... Legitimately, we're second-class citizens in our own country.
That's America last, not America first.
I mean, hey, you know, I can afford my own rent.
I don't need it. There's plenty of Americans and plenty of veterans, plenty of people who've paid into system, plenty of elderly people being thrown out on their butts to house people who have never paid into a system, who aren't even here legally, you know.
The Democrats are trying to convince us that this isn't actually happening.
How and why can they get away with that?
And to piggyback on that a little bit too, we are running an annual $2 trillion deficit.
By the end of Q1, we are going to run a $500 million deficit in Q1 of this year.
We are $34 trillion in debt.
We cannot afford to have illegal aliens in our country living rent-free, literally, living rent-free in Maine while the American taxpayer pays for it.
This is just basic American stuff, basic sovereign nation stuff.
And I think what they are trying to do, in my opinion, brother, is bring in as many illegal people in this country as possible, try to get them to vote so they can try to steal these elections again.
And I'm not quite sure that's going to work, because I want to let you know something in Texas.
Our governor and our attorney general and lieutenant governor just won our last election by 10 points.
And by our next census, we're going to be a majority Hispanic state.
Just because Hispanics are in this country, the ones that are here legally, the ones that can vote, they don't like or want the idea of liberals destroying the very fabric of Texas and our country.
And so you let these people in here, but let me be clear about something.
They're going to come here. They're going to work.
They're going to have families. They're going to start going to church.
And if you think they're going to vote for Democrats with their craziness about this women playing against men in sports and open border policies and spending it to oblivion, if you think that they're going to be okay with that, they're not.
That's why Texas is still very red.
I don't think they're coming for the free sex change operation that California is offering them now.
I imagine it's other things.
But I also see the schism between some of the most patriotic people I know are legal immigrants, but people who went through a process and did this over a long period of time.
And again, the Biden administration doesn't seem to make it easy for someone who'd be like a nuclear physicist or someone who's not going to be a dependent or someone, We're good to go.
What is it? 29th in the world, and we spend more per capita than anyone, but now you're going to throw millions of more kids, many of whom don't even speak English, into these schools, and you think that's going to be beneficial for you?
The lowest income earners are now going to be competing with people who don't even have the papers, so to speak, and they'll be taking cash off the books.
It's a scary prospect, frankly, much more scary for lower and middle income earners.
It most certainly is.
And I actually just put out, we were talking about this actually the other day at the bar.
I put out a tweet that was talking about Meek Mill and talking about how people, black folks that live in their poverty right now, who they are going to vote for in droves.
And it's going to be Donald and John Trump.
And we talked about this before.
President Trump will get the highest black vote that we have seen for Republican in modern history.
For the exact reasons that you just stated.
If you think back to 2020, President Trump got 18.7% of black men.
That's a record. I think this year he will get at least between 25 and 30% of black men.
And if and when that happens, the Democrats have a very serious math problem.
But see, Democrats think that black people...
Want to pay more taxes.
And they want to live in a hyperinflation state.
And they want illegals coming there taking our jobs.
See, they are assuming that all black people are going to think that way.
And then when we've had the last five years that we have seen this complete and utter disaster, people trying to figure out, am I going to put gas in my car or take my kid to school?
All of a sudden, you have ASAP Rocky.
You have Meek Millie.
You have all these people that are like, you know what?
Uh-uh. We're going to go back to Donald John Trump so we can get this right.
Okay, but let's play this out a little bit.
Obviously, the Trump administration did a lot for the African American community.
We're sort of, you know, opportunity zones, you know, prison reform.
You had, you know, historically black universities, you know, funding that in perpetuity.
But it did not seem to translate all that well still.
You know, meaning, you know, it's one thing being the Democrat Party and they gave you nothing and they promised you the world and they don't deliver for 50 years.
But now, it's even worse.
Like... It just feels like it's the holy grail.
It should always happen.
The Democrat Party has failed so miserably, and yet it never does.
Do you actually believe it?
I certainly think I see it with the men, because they're commenting, the guys that sort of grab me randomly, not because they're attending the thing that I'm at.
It's because they actually work there.
They're like, hey man, let me tell you something.
We're like, we're good.
No, because they get it, they see it.
Like, they're like, enough of this crap already.
But I always felt there was such a stranglehold.
You go in the inner cities and the pastor, I'm sure he's great, except he's on the payroll of the Democrat Party.
It made it so much harder that even with facts, even with actual progress, even with this, it didn't matter.
They were still voting Democrats. So I'm hoping it's not just a pipe dream.
I'm pleasantly surprised.
I'm actually shocked you don't see sort of an equal amount of movement with the women.
I'd love you to maybe explain that one to me because I feel like it's their children that are the ones that are going to be suffering.
And, you know, you don't mess with Mama Bear where they're, you know, You're, you know, white, black, green, blue, purple, doesn't, you know, Mama Bear's still Mama Bear.
You know, get into the details of that, because, I mean, you obviously understand it.
So, what's really interesting is this.
You can promise all these things.
You can do everything right, as we saw, you know, from 2016 through 2020.
I think President Trump probably did more for the black community than any other president that we've seen in modern history.
I can pretty much attest to that.
And you very acutely laid it all out.
And then the issue is always rhetoric, and the issue is always what's seen on TV, and the issue always gets propagated by people saying that we are inherently racist, and the MAGA movement is racist, and they don't like black people to succeed, and X, Y, and Z. And then you spend three years under Joe Biden.
And it confirms every single fear that you've had prior to that.
All of a sudden, we don't really want to hear about calling MAGA people racist.
I don't want to call Donald Trump racist.
I just don't want to pay this ridiculous amount of inflation because I can't live every single day.
And so the issue is not that this is going to happen overnight, but that we build on a progress that we saw in 2020.
We see the disaster for the past three years under Joe Biden and people are waking up and they're starting to really speak out about this.
And back in 2016, 2017, 2018, a lot of black people were kind of concerned about being overtly supportive of President Trump.
I never was scared because I always knew what he was about, but I got it, right?
Because then you have to go home and go to the family reunion and talk to other black people.
They're like, hey, man, are you with Trump?
Why? Those conversations have changed tremendously.
And now you're finding out that people are actually being far more open about what their support is going to be for President Trump, especially amongst the black men.
You have to understand, too, Demographically speaking, black men, Hispanic men, and actually Hispanic women, they're going to gravitate toward your father and toward President Trump because at the end of the day, he's an alpha guy.
And what you have to understand is that alpha guy- Yeah, there's a macho culture there for sure.
Of course there is. Of course.
That's why I love him.
And- But to certain demographics, it turns them off.
That's the issue. Now, quite frankly, toxic masculinity is what people would call it.
I think we need more of it.
The reason why we don't speak German and the reason why this country was saved in World War I and World War II is because of brave men storming the beaches of Normandy to ensure that the world doesn't speak German and it weren't taken over by a fascist country.
That's what toxic masculinity got us here.
I think we're good to go.
Yeah, I love hearing that, because you're right, the unity message is important, but sometimes I'm just like, listen, and maybe it's easy for me.
I'm the son of a billionaire from Manhattan.
They've gone after me for a long time.
You son of a B. Yeah, sure, I understand I'm blessed, and I also understand I'm not the upstanding citizen that Hunter Biden is, so I'm treated a little bit differently, but I'm like, hey, bitch, where's my white privilege?
I'm trying to be like... Like, if my children were applying to college right now, I'm like, don't put your name.
Like, you know, I'm trying to convince my boys maybe they got to go trans just so they can get into a college right now because, like, you know, they do that.
I'm not a Democrat. I'm not willing to castrate my child.
Just for the record, because you know there's going to be some asshole on here that clips it and be like, Don Jr.
said his sunglasses. Yeah.
Yeah, but it's sort of where we are, right?
You see this stuff.
The military is now paying for trans operations.
There was sort of a great meme last week, and it was like...
We can't figure out why the recruitment number stood out.
It's Millie in a Karen wig with long nails and makeup.
And you're like, who's going to go fight for that?
I mean, you have obviously a history of serving yourself as an Apache pilot.
Your whole family, your sister.
I mean, when you're at home, With a long and generational history of military service, and you see what's going on right now there.
What's that conversation like?
It's a very interesting one.
So, you know, my sister's West Point, class of 93, I'm West Point 04, and my brother's West Point 05.
We went to West Point before West Point was woke, before the military was woke.
We weren't talking about these kinds of conversations.
You know, I saw something at the Air Force Academy where they were considering taking out sir and ma'am because they wanted to be more inclusive.
And if we're talking about the military...
It's like a basic tenet.
Sir, yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Yes, ma'am. I didn't serve.
I kind of know that one.
This is really weird. And it's the military that you volunteer to join.
So if you don't like the parameters or the structure and what you set up, then don't join.
Go join the Peace Corps. But it is our job to fight and win our nation's wars.
It's not our job to do misgendering people and the taxpayer paying for people to transition.
That's kind of ridiculous.
That's outside of the scope of what the military is.
And Don, the military was actually literally the first meritocracy that we saw in this country.
The first organization to really start to break down these racial barriers from the past and allow black people and women and people of color into the fold.
And guess what? Depending on how well you perform, you can rise in the ranks.
Look, that's how it should be.
It should have never gone away from that.
And if you're looking at why our recruiting numbers are so low, the 18-year-old, 16, 17, 18-year-old that wants to go join the military, that's gung-ho, that wants to go be a Ranger or a Navy SEAL or an Apache pilot, that person is not concerned about gender.
They're concerned about kicking ass for this country.
End of discussion. So when you stop catering to that individual and start catering to the woke stuff, You turn off that person that wants to get out and serve their country and potentially be willing to give their life for this country.
We got to get back to that.
West Point 2000, 2004, 93.
Let's get back to that.
Back to a meritocracy.
This is our main mission, to fight our nation's wars, and most importantly, to serve as a deterrent so that people know we don't want to mess with them because they're proficient, they're tactically sound, and they will kick our butts.
And they aren't worried about trans stuff.
They're worried about winning America's wars.
Yeah, when I see, like, the trans-military TikTok videos, and I'm just like...
It's so ridiculous.
I'm like, you know, China's, they're like, Dr.
Evil, excellent. Right, right, this is great.
We're like, we're going to win this war.
We won't have to fire a single bullet.
Like, they, you know, just...
Give them a stripper pole and they'll entertain themselves for hours while we take over the major cities of America.
I mean, it's crazy, but I want to get your opinion also on a lot of the stuff we see in the world of sort of DEI, right?
The diversity, equity, inclusion.
I was speaking to a friend who flies fighter pilots.
He's a fighter pilot. I don't even want to get into the details of the plane because the military will figure out who it is and then they'll be shipped off to...
To quote Top Gun, you know, flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of Taiwan.
But, I mean, he said, so what's it like?
And he goes, they're literally trying so hard, they're putting people into, you know, like F-35s that you wouldn't put in a Cessna.
And I was like... Whoa.
Do you keep in touch with other guys?
Have you heard these similar stories?
Is this an exaggeration, or is it real?
When he's like, because I'm a pilot myself.
Nothing like that, obviously. I have single-engine land, but it was like, you know, there's still basic things.
You see the FAA requirements and the Boeing diversity requirements.
You're like, wait, these are really large objects, in many cases on the commercial side, with hundreds of people in them flying 600 miles an hour at 36,000 feet.
Like, this is a problem.
But when I heard about it in fighter jets, in F-18s, in F-35s, and it's, they're like,
dude, these guys, they wouldn't have flown cargo planes when I got in X number of years
ago.
And now it's like they're trying to stick some of the worst candidates into some of
our finest machinery.
So I can even, before we get to those super advanced aircraft, you and I were talking
about how many flights we have.
You and I fly commercial a lot.
I was actually pleased to hear that. You fly commercial and you fly coach a lot.
95% of my travel is commercial coach.
Made my day. I was like, this is really cool, actually.
Because you don't have to. That's really cool.
And we're talking about that.
And of all the flights, of every time that you got on a plane to fly anywhere in the country or anywhere in the world, did you peek your head into the cockpit and say, hey, I just want to make sure that you, Delta Airline, or you, United Airlines, that you have major DNI requirements?
Because if you didn't, I'm not getting on this plane.
Yeah. I want to make sure.
I don't really care so much about hitting the ground at 600 miles an hour and going out in a fiery ball of death.
I want to make sure we're inclusive.
Yeah, but it's also creating, though, a vicious cycle, because I do get on these planes, like, a lot.
I probably fly, like, between 200,000 and 300,000 commercial miles a year, and I look in the cockpit, and sometimes now I could see someone.
By the way, they may be the most competent person in the air that day, but if I'm seeing, like, I'm like, but I don't know, because I don't know.
And that sucks. Like, that's a shitty feeling when you fly as much as I do.
You know, the odds of something going wrong in a flight that I'm on eventually is real.
You know what I mean? And you also do an injustice, in my opinion, you do an injustice to these minority groups.
Because the first thing that anybody cares about is, are you proficient and are you good at your job?
Can you do that? And now we have a world with Kamala Harris and Ketanji Brown and all these people that are getting these positions just because of the way they look.
You are now questioning their acumen.
And that's not fair either.
But the problem is we've done this so much, right?
With Kamala Harris.
Then you listen to her speak and be like...
I don't know. There's probably a reason she was polling at 1% in the Democrat primary.
But she became vice president anyway.
You see it. I don't know enough about Ketanji Brown-Jackson, but, you know, people putting stuff out.
But Corrine Jean-Pierre is like, no, I won't.
She's the press secretary. She's going to be the face of the Biden administration on a daily basis.
And she's great because she's the first gay, black, lesbian who wasn't born here or something.
It was like, they were like box checkers.
Check, check. It's like, oh my God, she's checked so many boxes.
We should put her in an Apollo mission spaceship.
Does she know anything about that?
No, but who cares? She checked all four boxes.
But you see the performance.
But worse, you see the media like, oh, you're not going to address that?
It's the biggest story of the week.
Oh, you're just not going to address that.
They give her a pass.
They understand she's not capable of answering the question.
But no one says, hey, can we get back to competence?
No. You know, they wouldn't have given that same slack to, you know, someone that my father put in, you know, into office that way.
And that's the problem.
So you see people, they may belong in a position.
You see the treatment of Claudine Gay over at Harvard.
Yes. She should have never been there.
She should have never been in the first place. Black woman, like, it's time.
Well... That does such a disservice for someone who actually is a black woman who actually belongs in that position, and I'm sure there's a bunch of them.
Yes, as long as they're qualified.
You know, the first thing you said about me, this is why I love you, and this is why I love conservatives.
The first thing you said about me on this show, here's Wesley Hunt.
He's a West Point grad.
He's an Apache pilot.
These are things that I have accomplished in my life that's given me a level of competence and understanding to do my job very well now.
Yeah. I'm a husband.
I'm a father. I'm an Apache pilot.
I earned three master's degrees from Cornell University.
I didn't plagiarize anything. That's almost an IV, I think, right?
Almost. Hey, listen, I went to Penn, so I should be talking shit, and until we had our Leah Thomas incident, I'm like, okay, fine.
He was all good. We were doing great.
Then they were like, Leah Thomas, and I'm like...
That's my alma mater now.
I probably should just sit this one out.
I feel like I'm all those things first before I'm a black man.
And by the way, I'm a proud black man.
Trust me on that.
I'm black and I'm proud.
But so many things before we get to that.
That's what I love about our party.
I love that I bought our party.
We are not going to put somebody in a role just because they look a certain way.
We're going to put somebody in a role because they're the best fit for the role and what the country needs.
And also, they're competent.
And they're good at their job.
They don't check boxes just for games or for fun.
It's because they're actually, look, here's what they've done.
They're qualified. They present well.
Boom. This is our person.
If it happens to be a black person, great.
Or a white man, great.
Or a Hispanic man, Hispanic woman, great.
I want the best person. It works against me, too.
If I'm hanging out, oh, that's Don's token black friend.
I'm like, what? I'm incapable of liking someone.
How about that fucking guy's funny as hell?
We're sitting there. It basically ends up being you, me, and Byron just in the corner.
I think everyone else may be a bit racist.
They were afraid to hang out with us.
Or they're just worried about the reputational damage of being associated with what was coming out of our mouths.
You earned your black card that night, Doc.
Yeah, you know, dude, that was what we got to do with more of that.
Especially when there's fewer people around.
But yeah, there is so much of that.
And it's like, it's crazy.
Listen, by the way, you see it this week.
Lloyd Austin, the Secretary of Defense, he goes home for a week.
Doesn't even tell the Biden administration.
Now this could be, by the way, this may not be like he gets a pass because of race.
It could actually just be because the military industrial complex no longer feels like they need to tell Biden.
Biden. By the way, similar generals...
It's Biden. Do you know anyway? No, of course not.
But other people... The person they put in was a woman.
They made a big deal of saying that.
The problem is she was on vacation in Puerto Rico.
Correct. Which is wonderful, but I don't know.
If you're the acting sec def, maybe it's time to come home.
But perhaps the bigger problem isn't that he got a pass because of that.
But now you don't know. Now you don't know because you're not sure if anyone's a checkbox.
They could be the most qualified person in the world, but you wonder, which makes you
question your orders, I would think, which makes you, you know, like, hey, is someone
who's got an IQ of three sending me to death in a war we should never get into because
they have bad judgment and don't belong there?
And so, you know, or perhaps the bigger problem, and I'd love your opinion on this, is really,
isn't it maybe the military-industrial complex also saying, hey, we no longer respond to
the civilian chain of command?
Like, you know what? We know more.
Joe Biden's an idiot. We're just not going to listen.
And by the way, they tried doing the same to my father.
You know, he'd say, this is what we're going to do to get to peace, and yada, yada.
We don't want to do that.
So they slow play it.
They drag it out. Here's 30 reasons why you can't, and they sound really serious.
You're going to endanger your lives, but it's all bullshit, right?
Here's a briefing made to order, meaning here's a briefing where this is the conclusion we want, and therefore we'll give you a bunch of stuff as to how we got there to give us the answer we want, even if there's no truth to it.
But in the case of the Lloyd Austin, I mean...
If you did this, if you disappeared for five days when you were in active duty and didn't tell anyone, there was no one in the chain of...
Wouldn't you be relieved of duty?
Immediately, actually. Immediately.
Like, not even...
Without a question. Bye!
Without question. And I was a captain.
I was a captain, not a four-star general.
Without question. If I disappeared for five days, they did not tell my chain of command and said nothing.
No text, no phone call.
They didn't know where I was. You should have seen the packets that we had to fill out to go on leave for a weekend.
I had to kill a tree to let my commanders know where I was, what I was doing, how many miles I was driving.
I got my car inspected.
Here's my license and registration. You name it.
You leave to go on pass for the weekend.
And so if we have a leader who's a four-star general that leaves and does not tell his direct leader, which would be Joe Biden, that he's leaving for five days, that's a very serious problem.
I have a bigger concern, though, Don.
A bigger concern is this. What is Vladimir Putin saying?
What is Xi Jinping saying?
We must be the laughingstock of the world.
Oh, my gosh. Like, it's sort of, you know, it's the dream of all foreign adversaries to have a situation like this in America right now.
You know, they were hoping that maybe they could pressure us into these situations.
You know, we beat and won the Cold War basically because of the economy, right?
They ran out of money with their nonsense.
We're becoming that communist nation very quickly, and that's no joke.
I mean, but...
You see that going on, and I guess I'd ask, are we prepared for a major foreign conflict?
I mean, there's three brewing right now between, you know, what's going on, you know, Israel and then south further in sort of the shipping channels.
You obviously have Ukraine.
You have what's going on, you know, sort of on the border of Venezuela and Guyana.
Like, you know, and yet, you know, the war machine in D.C., they want to get in all of these things.
Yeah, I don't know that we have the capability for any of them.
Right now, we don't. We don't.
And it's flipped, and it changed just like that with poor leadership.
We can actually get back to being a competent fighting force just as quickly with good, strong leadership.
And keep in mind, this ebbs and flows.
This is actually not our first rodeo.
We've been here before. But to answer your question about are we tactically competent enough right now with the force that we have right now to fight a potential two- or three-front war?
Absolutely not. And that's exactly why these countries are behaving the way that they are behaving.
There's a reason why Vladimir Putin chose now, especially after the disastrous Afghanistan pullout.
There is a reason why Hezbollah is doing what they're doing right now and Iran is on path to having another nuclear weapon.
There's a reason why Xi Jinping is rattling the sabers against Taiwan.
There's a reason why.
Because they know that the big dog is no longer in charge right now.
That's it. We have, they're thinking to themselves, we have about one more year to get away with whatever we can, because when Donald Trump comes back, it's over.
Yeah, you noticed that, like, the other night in Iowa, it was literally, I was watching the futures markets over in China, and their stock markets started cratering.
They're plummeting. Jack Posobiec, I think, said it best.
He was like, oh, they know daddy's coming home.
Oh, yes he is. But it was an important message to the world, because you're right.
I don't think any of these things would have happened.
There was a reason none of them did happen during those four years.
We had world peace. We had world peace for four years.
Yeah. Literally. It's the nature of predation, I always say.
Like, you know, predators prey on the weak.
That's what they do. It's a story literally as old as time.
And yet, you know, when you have a guy that can't find his way off the stage, you're saying, you know what?
This is a good window.
Let's go do it. Right now.
And I have a prediction, too.
You know, I'm very confident that your dad's going to win.
And when he wins, there's going to be a window from November to the time he gets sworn in in January.
I have a prediction that all these conflicts, before he even gets sworn into office, will come to an abrupt stop.
Hey guys, we were just kidding.
I don't want to deal with this.
I sort of hope so, because it's pretty scary.
I want to get your assessment.
The House Republican Conference right now, under the leadership of Speaker Johnson.
Yeah. It's rough.
Rough times. Yeah. You know, man, like, you know, it's an interesting one because, you know, listen, Kevin has his flaws.
I get that. But he was politically astute.
You know, he helped raise a lot of money to help get guys like, you know, I think you'll be fine, but there's others that need help that are great guys.
You know, and, you know, when they were like, no, we love a guy that basically, like, I never, I don't know that I had even heard of him before that.
And I'm pretty active in this stuff.
And I was like, well, no, he's got $5,000 in the bank.
He's never had. I was like, I like that because it seems nice and innocent.
The problem with being nice and innocent is that you're now swimming with the big boys, none of whom are nice or innocent.
And I want someone who's functioned in the real world at that level who can play that game.
I talk about it on the show. There's what you want, and then there's the realities of dealing within Washington, D.C. And if you pretend that those two things don't simultaneously exist, you'll literally get nothing done.
And I'm worried that he's getting rolled out.
By the way, I think the Senate is significantly worse when I look at the immigration bill.
It's a disaster.
Anything you want, Mitch will give up.
He'll sell all your children if he can send another $60 billion to Ukraine.
I'm like, no one can figure out why.
It's totally unpopular with Republicans.
I assume he's got a board seat waiting for him down the line, or his children or grandchildren, whatever it may be, are going to be on the board of Raytheon and Boeing in perpetuity, and maybe that's the retirement plan for them.
Right. What's your assessment, both House and Senate, right now?
So right now, you have to go back to the majority that we have in the House right now, Don.
We have a two-seat majority.
Yeah. And by the way, I get that that's not easy, right?
You're not going to pass legislative things, but isn't there a point where we say, enough?
Well, I'm actually there. I'm getting ready to go vote on the CR right now, and you will find out I'm going to be a no.
I don't think we should be passing any more CRs.
It's time for us to get to work and actually control the power of the purse.
With the two-seat majority, it's tough to get things done.
You're right. The Senate is worse off, and the Biden administration is a complete joke.
With a two-seat majority, you have to understand that The difference between Kevin McCarthy and Speaker Johnson right now, from a legislative standpoint, probably is not going to be all that different.
What happened with McCarthy was there was a lack of trust, I think.
And sometimes, brother, when you're here for long enough, either you die the hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
And I think over time, Kevin drew some trust issues.
And it wasn't just Matt Gaetz and those eight people.
It was actually quite a bit more than that.
The reset with Speaker Johnson is now, he's a new face, he's a different person, different guy.
He's been here for six years.
Let's give him a shot.
Now here's the problem. We're giving them a shot with deals that were already made the previous year.
Instead of a four-seat majority, we've had two retirements, and now we have a two-seat majority, and Steve Scalise is out, and I hope he gets better.
So now we actually have a one-seat majority.
It is very difficult to get anything passed in this Congress with a one-seat majority, and you don't have the Senate, and you don't have the presidency either.
It is our job at this point.
You ever shut it down, though? I get it.
Listen, you can say, hey, we'll meet our existing debts, but nothing else.
We'll agree to all sign off on that because you can't default on your debt.
That would be a disaster for the American.
Just so everyone, because everyone's like, oh, and again, I'm a rabble rouser.
I'm loud. I'm aggressive.
But I also understand the realities of the world.
You got to pay your debts because if you shut that down, you're going to give China an excuse to put the world on the wand and If U.S. starts defaulting on their debts.
But you can all say very publicly, hey, we will meet our existing debt obligations, we're doing nothing else going forward, and we'll shut that aspect of it down.
And I understand that's horrible.
But here's the actual argument. I am in favor of shutting the government down, especially if we get border security.
If we pitch that to the American public, I think it would go over just fine.
Actually, just like your dad sat down with Chuck Schumer.
I would be willing to shut the government down for border security.
If we took that stance, I think you'd be surprised at how much we could actually get down the road.
But you have to understand, if there's more than three moderates or more than three people that won't vote with us and every Democrat votes against us, then nothing's happening.
Yeah. And therein lies the point.
We have to implore the American public to not give us a four-seat majority.
We need a 20-seat majority.
We need the presidency. We need Donald Trump back in office.
And we need the Senate. If we could get those things done this year, I think you'd be surprised at what we can get done for the next two years.
Yeah, and you need that majority.
And again, you're right. It can't just be a majority of weaklings, right?
It cannot be. We had the Senate when my father first got elected.
We had the Senate, we had the House, and we had the presidency.
And people were like, well, why didn't you get more done?
I was like, well, because Paul Ryan is a weakling, and he was never going to do anything to help.
He wanted to be loved in D.C. That was much more important than doing what the people who elected him in Wisconsin wanted him to do.
It was funny. So as I was going around in Iowa last week, this person from, I guess, the Fox affiliate, now he sits on the board of Fox News, but the Fox affiliate in, you know, I guess one of the districts must have overlapped in terms of a zone.
He's like, well, Paul Ryan just threatened the Republican conventions in Milwaukee.
He's not going to even go.
I was like, who cares? No one cares.
Literally, other than maybe one or two rhinos in Washington, D.C., there are literally zero people in the Republican Party that could give a single shit if Paul Ryan...
If he goes to the convention, they'd love him to be less involved, not more.
And the guy was like, no, no, no, but he said he won't even go.
I was like, no, this isn't a trick question.
He didn't get it, but he works for Fox, so it's a little bit different.
By the way, speaking of being ambushed with what I thought was a funny question like that, you...
Had a protester come up and yell at you in Iowa.
And guys, just so you understand, Wesley's built like a Briggs shithouse.
His arms are bigger than my legs.
He covers it up pretty well.
Even Byron, who's a big dude, was like, no, no, no, that guy's strong and thick.
Tell me about it, because I was like, that guy was about to have a really bad day.
I don't think he realized it.
He really was about to have a bad day, and I kind of...
I actually remember in the moment, I was actually advocating for your dad.
I was at one of the caucus sites, and I thought I was actually giving a pretty good speech.
I was actually really, really proud of it.
And then all of a sudden, I get interrupted, and I turn around, and this guy starts approaching me.
And the good people of Iowa, in good fashion...
Ran out, came to my defense, and threw his butt out.
But as he was approaching me, you're right.
It was getting kind of testy there in a second.
I faced him. I was like, if this dude gets about three feet closer, he's going to have a real rough day.
It was funny. After a little time in the bar, it was funny hearing the retell of this story.
That was good.
Yeah. But it is, I mean, it is sort of crazy, right?
These primaries, you know, you go out there and you put yourself out there.
I know, you know, when I was there speaking before Nikki Haley, it's like, you know, I go in the room, there's 250, I don't have a security guard, I'm in a room, there was 250, 300 people in there, whatever.
I did a press thing for half an hour and she was hiding backstage and runs in and, you know, gives a speech, runs out.
I'm like, it is.
I mean, there's times you're out there, you're actually pretty exposed and pretty vulnerable and, you know, You do this enough, you run into a lot of people and some are...
Let's say a little bit off.
Yeah, they're a little bit off, but you know what?
We have to do it. Because if we don't do it, brother, then who is?
We are the ones that we got to take that risk every now and again and put ourselves out there.
Because if we don't, we will lose our country.
It's the bottom line. You have kids.
I have kids. We're doing this for them.
I said that actually in that speech.
I told a story about your dad picking up my little baby girl and giving her a big hug.
And I'll never forget that because it dawned on me that that's what he does to your children and
his other grandchildren. And if we don't step into the fray, and if we don't fix this country
right now, we are four years away from losing it all. And this is actually the first time I can say
that in my in my lifetime. I mean, it's been bad. It's been okay. I wish it could have been better
here or there. But we are four years away. If by if Biden Harris are back in office,
it's over. As we know it, it's over. It's sort of political hyperbole. But like,
it's actually real. I probably even said it last time because I foresaw what was happening. But
you're right. Like, there's a chance to turn this around.
But you're getting to the point of like the pendulum. You know, it's too far. And like, to
your point, I'm not doing this because this is good for me.
My life was a lot easier before this shit.
Speaking before all these congressional committees, you know they want to try me for treason, a crime punishable by death.
Minor details. Stuff like that.
It's my average Tuesday.
I have a question for you. Who's cocaine was in the White House?
I have no idea.
Could it be the world's number one crackhead?
So when that story came out, it was so funny.
I'm looking at Twitter. I'm like, oh yeah, they found Hunter Koch in the White House.
Leftist Twitter was like...
It must have been Don Jr.'s like, dude, I haven't been in the building in three and a half years.
How's that even possible? I'm like, wait a minute, it's mine?
It's mine? So then this week, or last week, I guess it was, the DOJ finds cocaine on the gun case of the Hunter Biden illegally purchased felony firearm, which is literally one of the things you check off.
Like, you're not, like, they find cocaine on it.
Now, of course, the DOJ tells us this four years later.
Yes. Four years later.
By the way, what we knew to all be true anyway.
We knew it. Because we don't live in a system of equal justice anymore.
It's crazy, but we're fighting to get that decency back.
We're fighting, as you mentioned, our kids.
Like I said, I don't need this shit.
My life was so much easier just being the son of a rich guy from New York building buildings.
I used to think construction and that business was rough, but it's nothing compared to this.
But we do it for them.
We do it for their future because we believe in the freedoms that at least the conservatives I know hold dear.
Democrats seem pretty willing to just roll over and die for the communists.
But I'm not there, and I never will be.
Yeah. And I'll say this, too.
You know, you talk about the tale of two sons, Hunter Biden versus you.
I tell you, even though the left-wing media is not going to report this, and even though you're not going to see this on any show, and even though we're finding out this stuff four years later, thank God for Twitter, thank God for Instagram, and thank God for social media.
Because kind of below that current, people are talking about this.
People are talking about the disparity.
People have said millions of times, damn, if that were Don Jr., He'd be under the jail right now.
Those people get shadow banned.
Only 5% of the people that should see that post will actually see it.
At least on Twitter, we're getting a sense of, on truth, we have fairness.
On Rumble, we got objectivity.
But if I was on YouTube, if we did this show on YouTube, they'd take it off.
It wouldn't be allowed to be up there.
So, you know, you're right.
Social media is helping, but we've got to remember, like, we are not on an equal footing in terms of that.
You know, I see clowns that have three followers with very average content.
30,000 retweets, and I'm like, what's going on?
It's insane.
And I do enough of this stuff, and I do it myself, so it's like, I know when I hit send, if something's going to go big, and it's like, oh, it's going big, and then it's like, erk!
It just stops. It stops.
But we also can't cede that battlefield.
We can't cede it.
We're working at a disadvantage.
We've got to keep fighting. Correct.
That was my point, brother.
That's my point. So, the primary is basically over.
I think, you know, in my opinion, my father's going to be the nominee.
We've got some steps to go along the way, but what do you see as, what are going to be the key benchmarks for a MAGA victory in 2024?
What do you hear from the people?
What are the issues? What do we got to focus on?
Is there anything we're missing? The speech?
The speech that your father gave in Iowa...
Hit the nail on the head. That's it.
If we stay focused on those issues, we stay focused on the border, we stay focused on the economy, we stay focused on safety, we stay focused on not getting into more protracted and involved wars, we take the power away from Xi Jinping, take the power away from Russia, unleash American energy.
If we do these things and keep...
Just stay laser-focused on these issues.
We're going to be just fine.
A 30-point win in Iowa is unbelievable.
And it's not just because MAGA people and conservatives are all for your dad.
This is about a movement.
This is about moderates, and these are about independents that are saying, I'm not voting for Joe Biden, and I'm absolutely going to vote for Donald Trump, especially as we continue down this path.
So my advice would be, don't change anything.
I love the fact that the last tweet that your dad made was his mugshot.
Arguably the greatest mugshot of all time.
By the way, it may be the most viewed...
It's a beautiful mugshot. You've got the Mona Lisa, but there's some famous art out there.
But honestly, because of the digital age, because of the way it just works now, there's more pictures taken on a daily basis today than there was in the prior 200 years.
Those kind of stats. It may be, and go down as maybe the most famous individual image ever in time.
Potentially. And the fact that that's your dad's last tweet, he's still cutting loose on truth.
Just keep doing what we're doing.
And I think we're going to be more than fine.
Right now, Joe Biden has a 31% approval rating.
He is literally by far the worst president we've seen, arguably, not even arguably anymore.
He's the worst president that we have seen in the history of this country at this point.
Do they let him get to the finish line, though?
Do they, you know, because, again, they've shown there's nothing they're not willing to do, right?
You know, someone, you know, they shook a fence.
That's 25 years in prison.
Oh, you know, let's jail your political opponents for a thousand years.
You know, Trump's young. He's vibrant.
But, you know, a thousand years is a long time.
That's some millennium. So where are they going to go?
So let's just say something happens to Joe Biden before that.
Well, then Kamala Harris becomes the de facto nominee.
By the way, I welcome that.
They have to figure out a game to exclude her.
Make her a Supreme Court justice or something like that to be able to...
But Don, she's a black woman.
Oh no. You can't just...
No, that's a lifetime appointment.
That's better than the other one.
They'll come up with some way to spin it.
We gotta get this brought out of here.
Relax. Like right now, right?
This doesn't work. I don't think it doesn't work.
I don't think they can do it. The election is in 10 months.
You're out of time.
I think at this point, they're going to roll with Joe Biden.
If that's the case, we're going to have not just a good day, we're going to have an outstanding day in November.
Yeah, and Joe's not going anywhere while the Hunter Biden stuff is outstanding.
He's going to be there to make sure they give whatever pardon they can give him.
Yeah. All right.
Well, buddy, I know that you have votes.
I appreciate your time as always.
More importantly, I appreciate your fight.
Of course. You know, it's awesome.
And, you know, again, look forward to hanging out again very soon because that was way too much fun.
We just got to go fishing or something like that.
Or hunting. Other than the Chinese probably spying on us with balloons and stuff like that, no one will be listening, so we'll have some fun.
We'll suit them down, dude. Perfect.
You be good, buddy. Thanks.
Thank you, brother. Take care, man. Appreciate it.
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