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BIDEN IMPLODING, SWAMP IS PANICKING, Plus "USA" Chants as PublicSq goes Public | Interview with Jack Posobiec | TRIGGERED Ep.53
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good evening guys and welcome to another huge with a capital y episode of
Tonight, we're joined by my friend, conservative journalist and human events editor, Jack Posobiec, who will reveal everything you need to know about the swamp and everything they don't want you to know about Ukraine, what 2024 dirty tricks are coming, and ultimately the path to I think it's going to be a great interview, and I think you're really going to enjoy it.
But first, there's a lot of news we got to get into, guys, including the latest insanity, the latest developments
surrounding the Biden crime family, and obviously, the big news about Public Square going
public.
I got to sit on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange last week on Thursday.
And let's just say it was epic.
So we'll talk about why it matters so much for the Patriot economy.
So guys, just this past week, we had a House oversight hearing
featuring IRS whistleblowers on Hunter Biden.
In addition to Senator Chuck Grassley releasing an FBI document detailing a very detailed Biden bribery scheme.
There's been new revelations about the Bidens almost every week for the past month or two.
And I'm still shocked that no one really seems to be interested.
Certainly not our mainstream media.
Certainly not the Democrats.
Certainly not all those, you know, the democracy folks that pushed Russia, Russia, Russia like it was going out of style.
So I thought, since no one else is doing it...
I thought we'd go through what we've learned for you because you're not going to see it anywhere else.
Again, why I say it's so important to like, share, and subscribe to this kind of content so other people have a chance to see it.
So just hit that little button right now.
It paints a pretty definitive picture We're good to go.
They were okay. Now we have Democrat whistleblowers from the IRS and such who still actually believe in democracy because it doesn't feel like a lot of Democrats do these days.
We've learned that Joe Biden and Hunter Biden worked closely together to sell out America for their personal profit.
It's a family business, folks.
My family business has been real estate.
Buildings that we built that you can see, that you can touch.
Everyone knows this who's been following our family for the last, like, 40 years.
The Biden family business, however, is influence peddling.
You want a Ukrainian prosecutor fired?
Well, you have to just pay the right people.
For Burisma's CEO, the right people were Hunter Biden and Joe Biden.
In 2014, Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company who infamously put Hunter Biden on its board of directors, despite Hunter having zero oil or gas industry experience, despite not speaking the language, despite not being required to actually show up, you know, et cetera, et cetera.
You know, a lot of people make millions for those kind of qualifications.
Knowing nothing, doing nothing, never showing up, not understanding.
I mean, that happens all the time, right?
In the course of legitimate arm's length transactions, right?
I don't know, guys.
We used to think that they were paying Hunter a million a year for this role.
In return, Joe Biden used U.S. foreign aid to pressure Ukraine into firing Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor that was investigating Burisma.
Guys, watch the clip one more time.
I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kyiv, and I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee.
And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against a state prosecutor, and they didn't.
So they said they were walking out to press conference and said, no, I said, we're not going to give you the billion dollars.
They said, you have no authority.
You're not the president. The president said, I said, call him.
I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion dollars.
I said, you're not getting a billion?
I'm going to be leaving here, I think it was, what, six hours?
I looked, I said, I'm leaving in six hours.
If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money.
Oh, son of a bitch.
Got fired. I remember when they said, oh, that's not a big deal.
It doesn't mean anything. With the evidence that we've seen now, that's still the Democrat talking point.
It just happens to be total bullshit.
We learned last week, thanks to Chuck Grassley, that this cost much more than $1 million to Hunter Biden.
Burisma had to pay a $10 million bribe, $5 million to Hunter, and apparently $5 million to Joe, in order to get the prosecutor fired.
Burisma's CEO told an FBI informant that he was, quote, coerced by the Bidens into making a bribe.
Again, Just go back to the video that we just played.
He literally says it out loud.
Because if you're a Democrat, you can do those kinds of things.
It doesn't matter. The CEO, Zojewski, said that even though Hunter Biden was dumber than his dog, which, honestly, guys, we've seen the video, shouldn't surprise anyone, he had to pay him in order to get the prosecutor fired.
The FBI had this document detailing the bribe for years, folks.
Including before the 2020 election.
How convenient for Joe Biden that the deep state We're good to go.
When Democrats are selling out our country, we're still going to cover it up because the deep state is much more important than our republic or the notion of democracy or anything like that.
We only know about this bribe because Republicans, namely Chuck Grassley...
Used their oversight power to get it released.
So they knew, they knew he was susceptible to bribes.
They didn't care.
They allowed it to happen anyway.
We're now making a hundred plus trillion dollar decisions in Ukraine when maybe there's more floating out there that we don't yet know about.
We could be on the brink of nuclear war beyond the money.
And no one's even asking the question, is our insane America last policy?
Is our insane giving them $130 billion while not being able to finish our border wall for like $3 billion?
Is our stupidity, our poor decisions, are they being based on all of this and no one cares?
Our press isn't even interested in asking those questions.
Seems like a big deal, but I don't know.
Guess I'm not a journalist.
I wouldn't understand the finer nuances of those things.
Or they're just all on the take.
They've showed their hands, they've showed their true colors, and they couldn't care less because the institution of journalism is dead.
This $10 million bribe that the Bidens received is just a drop in the bucket, folks.
Hunter and his father got rich with payments from all over the world, including China, Romania, Kazakhstan, and even Russia, okay?
If they were making $10 million-plus from Ukraine, a little country, In the breadbasket of the world?
What do you think China was willing to pay?
Again, we know they invested a billion dollars into Hunter Biden's fund.
A billion dollars. I mean, again, we've discussed this on the show.
It's not like China does a lot of investing with crackheads.
They know exactly what they're dealing with.
They only invest when they know they can buy someone.
And I'm sure that's exactly what they did.
We all know it.
And again, no one's asking the question, is our America last China first policies, which have been pretty flagrant as well, Because China has a lot more on the Bidens that they could drop like that.
Hey guys, guess what? If they dropped it, half the Republicans wouldn't do anything anyway, and none of the Democrats would, so it probably wouldn't even affect them.
They should just make it public at this point.
They should just open source it and be like, hey, they've made billions and millions, whatever it was, from all of these corrupt regimes while selling out America, because it doesn't seem like the people in power would actually care, with the exception of the few Republicans actually looking into this.
Joe has lied over and over saying that he doesn't know anything about Hunter Biden's foreign business dealings.
We know this isn't true and we got more confirmation of that this morning.
The New York Post revealed this morning that Devin Archer, Hunter Biden's former business partner and best friend, will reportedly testify to Congress that Hunter Biden put his dad, then the vice president, on speakerphone with foreign business partners at least two dozen times.
That's 24 times that he's even aware of.
We've seen the pictures golfing.
He didn't know the guys he played 18 holes with.
Sure. Also, Archer appears to be dodging the committee.
So we'll see how it plays out.
Again, it's time for Republicans to actually grow a pair and do something about this insanity.
I know they wouldn't have sat back or sat on their hands when it was the Democrats blaming us because I did my congressional testimony 50 hours worth.
We all know that was a lie now.
But... We got to look into it.
The Democrats made up far more about us than you could ever imagine.
But none of that even pales in comparison.
It's not even close to what we've already uncovered about the Biden-Cram family and everything that's going on.
So again, the silence from the media, the silence from the Democrats, the silence for all those that were shrieking for the last half decade or so, Quite telling.
Now, this criminal scheme was being uncovered before the 2020 election.
IRS Special Agent Gary Shapely testified last week that they analyzed the WhatsApp messaging showing Hunter Biden telling Chinese businessmen that he was sitting with his father and demanding payment.
Shapely said, and I quote, That search warrant was never executed because of the, quote, optics of it.
Really? Really?
So let me get this straight, folks.
Raiding Mar-a-Lago is 100% fine using the FBI's hostage rescue team, the, like, Delta Force, the Navy SEALs of federal law enforcement.
Not exactly lawyers and bureaucrats, but basically a SWAT team.
On steroids, to raid my father's home is fine.
But don't you dare do anything to the Bidens because, you know, optics.
Check this out for yourself.
At every stage, decisions were made that benefited the subject of this investigation.
For example, prosecutors concealed contents of Hunter Biden's laptop from investigators.
DOJ slow-walked steps to include interviews, serving document requests, and executing search warrants.
Warrants that were ready as early as April of 2020, but were delayed until after the November 2020 election and never pursued.
Investigators were not allowed to follow up on WhatsApp messages from Hunter Biden's Apple iCloud backup, where he suggested he was sitting next to his father.
Assistant United States Attorney Leslie Wolf cited the optics of executing a search warrant at President Biden's residence as a deciding factor for not allowing it, even though she agreed that probable cause existed.
Prosecutors instructed investigators not to ask about the big guy or dad when conducting interviews.
The Biden transition team was tipped off about interviews the night before the investigation went over, a fact my FBI counterpart confirmed to this committee in a recent testimony, where the result was that only one witness spoke to investigators that day.
These are just some of the examples of how our investigation was stymied.
You would think that this story is all anyone would be talking about right now.
The president's son and the president himself are engaged in multi-million dollar enterprise to sell influence.
When federal agents uncovered the scheme during an election year and management stepped in to quash the investigation so the deep state's candidate Joe Biden could win.
You know, you'd think that, but you'd be wrong.
This is bigger than Watergate, and it's not even close.
But it's not getting a tiny fraction of the attention.
It's not getting a tiny fraction of the attention that Russia, Russia, Russia got, and that was totally fabricated with no evidence.
Here we have piles of it from all different corrupt regimes all over the world.
And instead, to muddy the waters, Deep State hack Jack Smith is busy targeting my father, wanting to put him in jail for over 450 years.
He gives the liberal media something else to talk about other than the Biden corruptions and scandals.
It's ridiculous, folks. And until we all start talking about it, until we force them to have some accountability, this sort of insanity will continue in perpetuity.
And it's one of the many reasons that Joe Biden is the second most unpopular president in modern political history.
Jimmy Carter was the first.
And even CNN is reporting that one.
The panic is setting in.
Will we see Biden replaced in 2024?
Because I'll say this, Jimmy Carter could have been a disaster for America economically, but at least he was a nice guy.
Joe Biden's not a nice guy, folks.
He may play one on TV, but we've seen it.
You see the corruption.
It's flagrant.
It's obvious. You also look into his history and you realize he's none of what he's been portrayed.
So that's a disaster, guys.
But in better news, we're finally beating back the leftists trying to politicize business.
We've seen what's going on in woke corporate America.
We see the continued doubling down.
Public Square, a company that I got involved with like, you know, almost a year and a half ago, tried to help grow.
That links... Non-woke businesses, patriotic American businesses with consumers that want to see their hard-earned money spent with someone who doesn't hate their guts and won't take your hard-earned money and weaponize it against them.
Well, Public Square folks went public last week.
And I was there on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange to ring the opening bell.
And let me tell you this, guys.
You know, there was a time where I think I would have been quite welcome to New York.
And a lot's changed in the last seven years, but this one is when I was legitimately like, hey, what's this going to be like?
And we went to the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, and it was absolutely incredible, man.
And that's perhaps the difference, you know?
Woke corporate, the CEOs hate us, they hate your values, they hate our freedom, they love the ESG, DEI crap that's going to be a disaster for their companies in the future, but...
The traders on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange.
It was like a love fest.
I mean, I took selfies with everyone.
They're high-fiving, they're loving what we're doing.
And then, public square goes public.
By the way, just so we're clear, with protections, okay, that the voting shares of the stock can't be commandeered by the woke...
You know, companies out there, the vanguards and the Black Rocks and all of this insanity.
So just so we're clear, because that's going to answer a lot of questions that people are going to have, we're preventing that from happening and making sure that consumers can find the non-woke businesses and business can find patriotic Americans that want to support them.
So definitely go check it out.
But as we rang the bell, a chant broke out on the New York Stock Exchange, which I don't think has ever happened before.
It was a chant of USA, USA, USA. It was so aggressive, so awesome, and so loud, it seemed to piss off Jim Cramer, who stood there covering his ears, unable to even hear himself think.
Check it out for yourself.
More is increasing than we thought.
The Fed...
USA! USA! USA! USA!
You know, Jim, the cent of sales right now, new home sales, are so much higher than they have been for some of the
overall sales.
You know, these 8,800, this curve, the main thing you need to know now, is that home prices are up 40% since 2019, and that's the magic number that the Fed is upset about.
40% increase.
And this says, listen, we are going to have more homes, but you're not going to get that price to come down.
You heard the opening vow here at the big board. PSQ Holdings, they have new and the fastest
over the NASDAQ generic drug company, A.N.I.
That's beautiful.
All right. We know I was going to give a different key.
Just one more. We'll come back to Tesla.
Guys, I wonder if Kramer would have had the same response to like a China chant because
you know, Probably, right?
Probably. You know the rest of the woke corporate would much prefer China over USA. Why does he dislike America so much?
It seems, you know, well, fortunately for Public Square, Jim Cramer's disapproval of stock usually means the company performs very well.
Cramer has the opposite effect of the Midas touch, you know?
Inverse Cramer. Short whatever he's selling and buy.
Buy whatever he's shorting.
You know, because on that same 30th, the public square share value more than doubled.
Actually, almost more than tripled.
It was actually pretty spectacular.
And, you know, I'm sure a lot will go on before now.
But, you know, now you have a public vehicle to take those funds to support the non-woke companies that so need it to link consumers with all of that.
And honestly, other than Rumble, I don't know that there's another non-woke company listed on any of these exchanges.
So, Public Square has over 1 million active users and is the easiest way to combat woke corporate America.
But think about that. 1 million in this short a period of time.
That's faster than Twitter because there's 175 million Americans and probably a lot of independents, half the country, that are sick of having woke corporate fans.
Weaponize your hard-earned dollars against you, against your values.
We've seen it, whether it's Target and all the others, and you see them doubling down.
They couldn't care.
Using the app for Public Square, you can find businesses that align with your values.
So instead of buying clothes from a company that funds child sexual mutilation, encourages demonic possession it seems, and You know, like the Church of Satan.
I mean, just the insanity that we see out there.
You can't even believe it's actually going on in the world.
You can actually buy clothes from a company that supports your freedom.
Or coffee. Or shoes.
But support those businesses.
I think you'll really love it.
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Guys, okay.
We have the Jack Posobiec.
Intelligence officer, pillow salesman, amongst other things, back on the show.
And honestly, I think it's a perfect time because, like, I think of all the people out there in the MAGA sphere, when we're talking about what's going on in Ukraine, I mean, you probably have a better grasp of Eastern Europe than most.
I think I do, too, again. The last time we were here, that was pretty much the main thing we talked about.
And... It's still going on.
We're 500 days into what we thought was a proxy war.
I think anyone with a brain realized it was probably more than that.
We have boots on the ground in Ukraine now, we're finding out, and that was right at the time when we spoke last.
The Pentagon misplaced $220 billion during this same time frame.
As you do. You know, of course.
I mean, if you spend $601 in Venmo, you're going to get audited by the IRS, but the Pentagon can lose $220 billion.
But if you're, you know, or if you're the Trump Organization and you guys lost.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, we misplaced $200 billion.
I'm so sorry, Alvin Bradge.
I have a feeling that wouldn't fly.
Letitia James would be cool with that, right?
Yeah, they did that one for you. Yeah, exactly.
So it's like, it seems, you know, maybe there's some unequal justice under the law, but another six billion last week alone that, you know, it always breaks one way, right?
Oh, accounting error. Oh, here you go.
Six billion. I'm like, how do I set up a company?
Like, can I find like a Ukrainian and like, just be, you know, you're the guy.
I want to come back as Hunter Biden in my life's life.
Because like, imagine being Hunter Biden, like without the drug problems and like some brains.
Like, you could, you'd be a trillionaire.
Like, you could be the first trillionaire.
And it's like, you got Hunter Biden, the guy who, can we just cut, like, and not even though you can joke, but does anybody actually think that Hunter Biden was going into the library to read books?
Does anyone think that he's like, I'm going to brush up on my Teddy Roosevelt today in the White House?
If I was in the White House, and despite what they say online, like, I've never even done, like, it's not my thing, right?
Like, I've, I'm not saying I was an angel my whole life, but that was not my thing.
But if I was anywhere near even Washington, D.C., let alone the White House, it would have been Don Jr.'s cocaine.
I'd argue, at least alive, the world's most famous coke-slash-crackhead Was residing in the White House when they find Cokes, and it's like, we have no idea!
What I'd love to do, though, is just, if I were given the chance, and there's some times where I always just wish I had the opportunity to interview some of these people who are on the other side of the Hunter laptop, right?
So it's like, we talk about the FBI, Chris Wray, we're all mad at them, and it's like, Okay, whatever.
We're grilling him. I don't want to grill, right, the FBI anymore.
Like, I want people in jail, right?
I want people in prison.
They're lying and they're corrupted.
And we know. We've seen that.
We saw how many FBI people lied before Congress.
You know, whether, you know, the former heads and some of the agents and the Strocks of the world and the Brennans of the world, like, these are some of the most powerful people in federal law enforcement or government, and it's like, oh, like, you lie?
Oh, like, no big deal. And we, as powerful as the memes are of Comey and Strzok and McCabe and...
And now, Ray. At the same time, people need to understand that these are individuals that have the power to lock up your entire family.
And they have. And put them in chains.
And they have. And they've been doing it already.
As in January 6th.
Yeah. All right, but let's talk Ukraine, because, you know, And it's actually quite frustrating to me.
I sort of crapped on Lindsey Graham last week, because I call balls and strikes, even if it's all right.
The most important thing we can do is keep spending trillions of dollars.
I'm like, for what end? He goes, the Republicans.
I go, wait, wait, wait. I've traveled the entire country.
I see a lot of Republicans.
Why is it that the only Republicans that support a never-ending war in Ukraine that could possibly lead to nuclear war with Russia all reside in, like, the United States Senate?
Like, there's not one?
Not one? Maybe a couple in Congress.
You know, the rhinos. But outside of the halls of Congress, I have yet to meet a Republican.
Who thinks Ukraine is a top ten issue, let alone the number one issue?
So, I mean, you do events all over the place.
I do events all over the place.
I've never had anyone come up to me at an event and say, what are we doing?
Are we fighting back?
It just doesn't happen. And in fact, according to the latest Echelon Insights, that as of when we're recording this came out this week, do you know where Ukraine actually stood on the list of priorities for voters?
And this is voters. This is not Republican voters.
It's all voters. Number 17.
It was, like, the bottom of the list, and there were a couple people who just felt, like, admittedly felt bad.
I think we all feel bad. My father feels bad.
Everyone feels bad. He's like, hey, I just want the death to stop.
Right. And that was a controversial position, because you should want...
He broke the frame. He broke the frame.
You're supposed to want every Russian, apparently, to die.
I guess that was the Caitlin Collins, like, CNN answer, like, what do you mean?
Who do you want to win?
Do you not want... I was like, no, like, winning to him is, like, just...
Unfettered death to stop.
And that shouldn't be a controversial position, and yet that's the position of love.
What Tucker got into, I think, in questioning Pence after his trip to Ukraine recently was a very, very important issue because Tucker said something to Pence, and this isn't even what I'm not going to say is an attack on Pence.
It's just sort of that establishment mindset.
He said to Pence, what about the persecution of Christians in Ukraine?
And the Christian element here.
And Penn said, well, I spoke to someone who was a church leader there and said it didn't happen.
But he was like a Zelensky-aligned cleric.
And it was like a Zelensky guy that he talked to.
And it's to say, do you even understand the issues that we're talking about?
Do you even understand the primacy of what the Russian Orthodox Church means in Eastern Europe, the Church of Constantinople, the background?
I mean, that wasn't even the worst soundbite for Pence, unfortunately.
No, no. But I guess what I mean to say, though, is...
...future career, or lack thereof.
But that one was...
That one stood out to me in the sense that it showed...
He has no background. He has no background.
I'm like, wait a minute. If you're the vice president, you should at least understand that, hey, there's probably going to be undue influence.
If you're going there and doing the obligatory photo op.
He's the one who kept saying, I went over there with Samaritan's Purse and I was with my wife and then I went over again and I met Zelinsky and I keep going.
He was the one who was bringing it up as if he was some big expert because he's traveled there.
So Tucker asks a basic question about the inter-Christian narrative that's going on here, and they don't even talk about it.
They don't point out that this is a war of Christian on Christian at the same time.
So why would I want more Christians dead?
Why would I want more dead Christians, even if they have to be born on this side of the line or that side, they're still Christian, right?
And so Tucker comes to it from a Christian perspective, and you could tell that Pence, he hadn't even considered that angle.
It was, as your point, that if you're Russian, if you're born on that side of this river, then you have to die.
And as you know, that's not how it works over there, especially in Ukraine.
Because the lines change every five minutes over there.
Well, not even the lines. But the history.
Right. The lineage.
Well, that's what I mean. That's what I mean. That's what I mean.
Half the people in Ukraine consider themselves, you know, at least significantly Russian.
And they speak Russian. It was like, you know, I'm Czech.
And so that was my background growing up there in the summers in Eastern Europe.
Like, you had Czechoslovakia.
When I was there. Now it's the Czech Republic and the Slovak Republic.
What do they call it? The lavender divorce?
Yeah, but the place that got me into the outdoors was a cabin that was literally seven feet over the border.
The delineation of even within the country, even though it was one country at the time, but when it split, it was like...
These are the same people.
They're walking across the line. Maybe there's a little different accent or a different dialect, but I speak fluent Czech and I can go to Slovakia and just have a conversation like I would anywhere else.
I'm sure there's similar stuff like that in Poland.
Yeah, it's all very similar.
And then you can get to Poland.
People don't understand.
They all have a root language. Yeah, this isn't U.S. versus Russia divided by the Atlantic Ocean.
It's not even close.
And so this is where people, and what struck me though was that Tucker asked a basic question about something that Pence was essentially claiming to have expertise in because of his visits and because of his travels.
And so Tucker said, you know, essentially, what do you think about this internecine religious schism that's going on?
And Pence was clueless.
He was clueless.
And so if he didn't even understand that, then does he understand the difference in the borders, the fighting?
Well, it also seems like he was manipulated into.
Exactly. Like I said, it wasn't even the end.
And it's not a Pence thing. It's all of them.
They're all like this.
If you were the Vice President of the United States, you should understand the way the real world works a little bit, and that's maybe show the naivete of like, oh, I met with a cleric that said this.
Especially if we're going to go ahead and get involved in a war there and decide that we're going to pick winners and losers, you'd think that, I don't know, maybe we'd take a little time to understand it is who we're killing.
You don't kill someone you don't know.
And again, and that wasn't even the worst soundbite as bad as that was.
Well, that's not my concern.
I was like, oh shit.
Like, that was it. It was just, it's over.
That's one of those clips, and I'll be charitable, right?
I'll be charitable because what I think happened was I think he had had that soundbite with his staff.
That was like a pre-planned soundbite that they wanted to get out.
And what he was trying to do, I believe, right, just as a guy who's worked in politics, he was trying to diffuse Tucker's argument of saying that, you know, if you're focusing on Ukraine, you're not focusing on cities.
I think that was the plan.
Yeah. But where he screwed up was not actually listening to what Tucker was saying and not responding to the specific question that Tucker asked.
He had the pre-baked answer.
Exactly. So he wanted to run with it, but it didn't work with the question that was actually asked.
And if you try to... If you try to force that, and so many of the politicians do that.
And the meme's out now, man.
And once a meme gets out...
Oh, it's over. It's over.
There's no recovery.
And I have to say, man, we all thought that the worst debate appearance ever by Mike Pence was the time that he spent an entire debate with Kamala Harris with an insect.
Attached to his head. And we all thought, well, surely this is the worst Pence could ever do in a debate.
No one could ever, you know, come out from that.
But he found a way.
He somehow found a way to actually go deeper than the fly.
And I have to say, I guess the fly was right.
I guess the fly... Because in the same vein where he wasn't having enough self-awareness to know there was a fly on his head, he didn't have the self-awareness to know that Tucker was asking him to just...
Do the main thing, the one main thing, and this is where people say, with Trump, why do you guys like this guy?
He's a billionaire. He's from New York.
He's a real estate guy.
What do you evangelicals have in common with him?
And he's, you know, your family values guy, and he's got a different track record, to say the least, you know, and et cetera, et cetera.
It doesn't seem like it would be a myth.
Why would you like this guy? And it's because he's authentic and because he shows he cares.
Yeah. That's it!
That's literally it!
And I get in trouble for it. I actually say that Trump's biggest political liability is actually that he's sometimes unwilling to actually show the emotional side of himself.
Because he says, hey, how can I be sensitive and caring here?
But then next tomorrow, I got to go to China and deal with those lunatics.
I actually agree with you. I actually completely agree with you.
But the bigger problem is, because I know he actually has that side.
Yeah. As a guy that, not just because I'm his son, but because I've seen the way he is with employees, or people who've gotten sick around him, or the guy that's just had a bad break and he takes care of, like, he has that side.
So it's different in terms of political liability.
There are people who are incapable of that.
Actually, maybe we'll talk about Ron DeSantis with a little bit of some of this.
Sort of incapable of that interpersonal skill.
Or, you know, that's sensitivity.
But when you have it, but you're just not willing to show it, that's where the liability comes because it is actually genuine.
There's an old-school mentality to not wanting to show that weakness or whatever you may call it.
Some of his most powerful videos, I think, Are just when he's walking the floor at one of the properties, when he's walking through, when he goes to Vegas.
The fast food restaurants.
And then the restaurants. Because you've seen an interaction with someone total stranger.
And he's shaking somebody's hand, he's slapping high fives with somebody.
You know, somebody comes up as a waiter or something, boom, $100 bill just right off the roll.
Like, that's Trump style, right?
That's just $100. And those are the things that people remember.
And there was one that just happened a couple of weeks ago.
I want to say it was South Carolina.
I could be wrong. But he was at the Waffle House.
And he walked in and he's doing, you know, and he's got the entourage and secret service.
And there was a woman sitting there in a wheelchair, a handicapped woman in a wheelchair.
He stopped everything.
And you could tell, you know, Jason and Steve are like, Mr.
President, come on, we gotta go, we gotta go, we gotta time, we gotta do this, you know, photo op, we gotta get to the plane.
He stopped everything.
And he went over to the woman in the wheelchair.
And he shook her hand. And you could see this look on her face that...
And you could tell she's had a rough go.
Yeah, of course. You could tell she had a rough go.
That ain't easy. And here's a guy...
The President of the United States willing to come down and just give her the time of day and shake her hand.
And I'm telling you, there isn't a...
A talking point or a policy point or a meme or a hashtag, anything that's ever going to be able to break that.
There just never will be. And so when people say, oh, we're going to do Trumpism without Trump and we're going to bring up someone else to be the new Trump without the...
Well, it's not so easy. People have figured that out.
You can't break that. I always talk about the fast food stuff because it's like, you know, the South Carolina...
Hey, will you pray with me? And then, but what's interesting is then, you're right, they're trying to emulate it.
DeSantis then goes to Dairy Queen to try to, and it's like, it's so cringe.
The dueling Dairy Queen.
It's so cringe. Don't try to copy the same thing that somebody else is doing.
Just be yourself.
I actually said something about this.
So Trump goes to Dairy Queen and he has this hugely viral moment.
It goes crazy. And he jokes.
He's like... Blizzards!
Everybody wants a blizzard! What the hell's a blizzard?
And everybody cracks up.
Because it's just funny that here's a guy, and he's known for, like, the fast food has always kind of been part of the brand.
Yeah, I mean, he can recite the McDonald's menu.
He's like the billionaire who goes to McDonald's, right?
It's funny. No one's going to pretend like Trump doesn't do fast food.
It was like blue-collar billionaire, right?
That was the kind of, you know, thing.
He's got, you know, the private, you know, 737, but he's got McDonald's and KFC and steak with ketchup, etc.
But... Him not knowing what a blizzard is is so funny because he just owns it.
He just owns everything about himself.
He just owns it. And then when DeSantis went to copy it, which was just odd, right?
Why would you go see a farmer?
Go do something different, right?
Something, anything. And then he goes in and he had that line that he goes, well, you know.
I tell you what, I've known what blizzards are for some time.
It's like, what?
It just comes across as so weird.
It's so bad. It's like, because you like food so much?
Is this like, what, do you want a cookie for that?
And I think of it, and I don't even mean there's a personal attack.
I like blizzards. I like blizzards.
I get places for my kids in the summer, because that's what you do.
But you're running a campaign for President of the United States, and you need to make moves on the chessboard.
And I don't think they know how to read the room.
I don't think they understand the hierarchy that's going on.
I don't think they understand that.
It's like Ric Flair, man.
Well, it's also catering to the donor base, right?
I mean, Tucker brought that up.
Now, I'll say this.
You know DeSantis didn't have a great debate because there's no clips of him owning something.
So this is the forum in Iowa.
This is the forum. So this was a week ago. But there's no clips out there of him owning something.
They're trying to do something with it.
And the reality is, it's hard to believe.
And I have a hard time even saying this because, man, no one dislikes the neocons more than me.
But Nikki Haley had a better day than him.
She did. But more importantly, and I'd like to get your opinion on this, like DeSantis was like the last guy to go.
So Tucker's like seven, nine hours into this thing, tired, and...
He's there all day. DeSantis had the benefit of watching the mistakes that everyone else made throughout the day.
You remember the cone of silence? They used to do the cone of silence.
He wasn't in the cone of silence. You don't have to put him in the box, you know, the noise, because he had the ability with the team...
Put him in the cone! You know...
Guys getting paid millions to figure out, like, okay, this is the mistake that Asa made.
This is the mistake that Tim Sal made.
This is the mistake that Tim Sal made. You don't want to get tuckered and you don't need to assemble it.
And yet, he had all of that and all day to prepare.
And I don't know if Tucker was tired or not, but anyone would be tired at the end of the day.
So it may not be the same edge or killer that you have.
Not one standout moment.
Like, it would have been so easy.
Like, if I were him, I'd be dunking on all the guys that went before me, picking on the things that they made a mistake of, and he didn't or was not capable of doing that.
I'd like to quote the great citizen philosopher Nature Boy Ric Flair.
And Nature Boy Ric Flair, as my father always taught me, watching the old, you know, Royal Rumbles and everything, he had the most perfect line about this.
And he said, you gotta be the man to beat the man.
You gotta be the man to beat the man.
Woo. Woo!
And what does that mean, though?
It's you must rise to the level.
And you're never going to beat the champ if you don't work your way up the ranks, work your way up the ladder.
When Ric Flair came in as the number three in that Royal Rumble, and then went on to win, when he could barely stand up while throwing the last guy out, right?
Because he'd fought everyone.
And you could say, oh, well, let's fix it.
Whatever, he physically had to do that.
He physically had to do that.
That's what made everybody love Ric Flair, because he was willing to go further than anyone has ever gone before.
And if you just get up on that stage and you say, okay, I'm gonna beat Trump, it's like, look, If you want to beat Trump, fine, but you've got to come.
You've got to come hard.
You've got to be throwing haymakers.
You've got to get in the face. You've got to get in the grill.
Just because the establishment donors are giving you a lot of money doesn't mean it just happens.
You don't just get to, like, make little jokes about Dairy Queen.
You've got to go hard.
So what do you think his policy is on Ukraine?
Because, again, you saw the flip-flop.
I have no clue. It seemed like he almost just lied.
I didn't really change my...
I'm like, it's pretty clear what you said, literally, when Tucker was still on Fox.
And then two days later, he comes out and corrects it.
With Piers Morgan. Yeah, with Piers Morgan.
Because, you know, one or many of the, you know, let's call it the Bush donors were like, no, no, no.
Feels like there was a phone call in between those, you know...
But then he's like pretending like he never even said it.
It's like, so what is his actual policy there?
Or do we not actually know?
Is the policy whatever it takes to get elected and then...
Then ultimately it would be whatever the swamp tells you to do.
It was so... Here's an interesting phrase.
He said something about, well, if you want to do military...
Like, do military?
You were in the military.
What is do military? What are you talking about?
Like, where's your comment on...
And I guess he did say he was against putting U.S. They all say we're against putting U.S. troops.
But the fact of the matter is that Joe Biden is now sending 3,000 U.S. troops to the theater.
Correct. Right, to the theater.
Because I remember when the advisors and trainers, well, I don't remember, but I remember in history when they were sent to Vietnam.
And this is how it started. That first it was 500 trainers, then it was 900, then it was a couple thousand, and then suddenly there was a surprise attack.
Yeah. Which is the precipice for the war, yeah.
And then suddenly, well, we have to respond to the attack, and then boom, you have something called Vietnam.
But it's different because Vietnam didn't have 6,000 nuclear missiles.
That's right. Like, that's kind of a big deal.
That's right. And the fact that, like, again, The entire Republican support for the war happens to reside in the United States Senate.
I'm still trying to figure that one out.
Because these are people that were sent there by Americans who...
Again, it's not a top ten issue for them, and yet it's a top one issue for the Lindsey Grahams.
Well, so here's what DeSantis was attempting to do, and this is why he came out with the vague answer as opposed to a full-throw.
Like, you contrast that with, like, a Vivek, right?
Whereas Vivek Ramaswamy, who's a guy that, to my knowledge, has no foreign policy chops at all.
Like, he's not like a Rick Grinnell, you know?
No, but it's not that But again, he comes in, he says, all right, here's what we're going to do.
Donbass gets split down the middle.
Crimea goes here. These provinces go here.
These ones, they can vote.
This thing's going to be done at the end of the week.
And if it's not, we're going to turn the money off.
It's like... That sounds like a pretty good plan.
But the issue that DeSantis has on his hands is that he's attempting to do both, where he's attempting to court some level of the realist, MAGA, America First voters that don't want anything to do with Ukraine at the same time as keep a hold of, as you correctly, I believe, solved that question of, Keeping the donors happy.
So how do you court the populists and keep the neocon donors in the military industrial complex happy?
Well, essentially the idea is you try to not anger either side.
And the only way to do that is to basically give no answer.
And that's what essentially he walked himself into, a place where, and look, this has always been an issue with governors when they run for president because they don't have foreign policy experience.
This is something that we're—and you remember when John Kerry ran, when Joe Biden, in his multiple attempts to run, has always said, well, we've got foreign policy experience.
We've got foreign policy experience.
But this is a huge issue for Governor DeSantis because he'll say things like, we need to be worried about China.
Like, okay, sure, we're worried about China, but where's your plan?
Trump had no foreign policy experience, but as a business guy who had done things, it's like, well, guess what?
He got— You didn't have any experience in government at all.
If any of the D.C. swamp people ever got a peace deal done in the Middle East, they would be Nobel laureates.
They would win every prize.
That was the holy grail of foreign policy.
You've got the Abraham Accord.
You've got the Abraham Accord.
And this is what, when I, so I had Grinnell on Human Events, award-winning podcast, that we actually were actually.
That we had Grinnell, and we walked through the various peace deals that Trump was working on that could come right back.
And so, because he said, oh, he couldn't get it done in 24 hours.
He could get Ukraine done in two phone calls.
And we all know that, because he had the Abraham Accords in The Middle East.
Then you had Grinnell was deployed out where?
Kosovo, Albania, Serbia.
He was looking at this. So he would send his direct envoy, one of his top guys, obviously, to go deal with that.
You know, the Balkans. Something easy.
As a side job. Then he directly, as we all know, got involved with what?
North Korea. So North Korea was what Barack Obama had said.
Obama said this and wrote a letter to Trump coming in that North Korea is the number one threat in the world.
My father told me that. He was sort of surprised.
Right. And he was like, listen, I sat with Obama and he's like, this is what he told me.
And I was like, really? And I can kind of imagine how it, and it's been reported out.
Otherwise, he said, well, this is the number one threat.
Get a guy on the phone. Yeah.
Call him up. Let's get it.
And then you see the letters between Kim and back.
But you also saw the reaction from the swamp, which was like, oh, Trump's doing it all wrong.
I'm like, why? Like, why is it wrong?
You've been there for 40 years and you've gotten jack shit accomplished.
But Trump's wrong taking a different approach.
And then in about two weeks he gets it done and it's like, oh, well, you know, we could have done that.
It's like, well, why didn't you do it?
You can see the levers and the chess pieces moving around.
And then where's his first foreign policy trip?
Saudi Arabia, right?
He goes to the Middle East and he says, and this is what led to the Abraham Accords.
He goes there and says, look, ISIS and the refugees and everything that's coming out of here, it's our problem, yes, but it's your problem first because this is your backyard.
And he put the onus on them as opposed to the forever wars of the neocons and said, you guys deal with that.
And I'll support you. I'll give you the intel, whatever it is.
But this is your fight. You deal with the mess.
You clean up your own mess. And he put that on them.
And by the way, you're not going to get any of these weapons sales, et cetera, if you don't do it.
Then he makes a direct pitch with North Korea.
He was working on the China deal.
And of course, we saw, and I was in the room in Helsinki, when he was working on this essentially rapprochement With Putin and Russia.
Because the idea, it's very, very simple.
And you don't have to listen to John Mearsheimer, I do, but you don't have to go all the full Mearsheimer to understand this.
There are three superpowers in the world right now.
There's the United States, Russia, and China.
And our role should not be the last thing we should ever want to do is to get the other two superpowers aligned against us.
Which is exactly what we've done.
It's exactly what we've done.
I mean, that's the Biden doctrine at this point. I mean, whether it's from a currency standpoint, whether it's from a military standpoint, I mean, like, you literally...
We can't compete against it. I mean, our sanctions backfired, made the dollar weaker, and, you know, taking things away from, you know, a dollar-based, you know, sort of system.
Well, and this is brick. This is brick.
You're talking about bricks.
Yeah. I mean, this is a disaster for us.
So you've got the G7 and bricks.
The United States lives so far beyond its means because it is able to borrow.
Yes. At, you know, at pretty good rates.
So we spent, you know, that's the, you know, $20 million to Pakistan for gender studies.
Like, because we're fucking morons.
But we do that and we're able to do that because of that borrowing capacity.
You lose the petrodollar, you lose that status as that reserve currency, and that's over.
That may actually be a good thing.
Not for our economy or anything like that, but it may at least eliminate some of the nonsense because we will not have the money to fund the woke bullshit that's What we've done that's so stupid is we've driven China and Russia together, whereas it should be the obvious policy of the United States foreign affairs establishment to separate them.
Right? No, of course.
And this was clearly what Trump was working on.
He's like, I'm going to, you know, maybe...
And you could see that there were some...
And this happened under Obama, too, where, you know, are there any areas with Russia where we do have overlapping interests?
ISIS... Yeah. Right?
We all hate ISIS. Let's kill them together.
Why not? Why not do that?
You know, maybe we have disagreements on other parts of the Middle East.
ISIS, Middle East peace, Middle East security.
Well, like, our media in the Democrat complex created that...
Oh, anything that Trump did that was even remotely...
Oh, it's collusion, obviously.
They have something on him.
It's like... But it turned out it was actually the opposite.
Yeah, of course. But they set us back decades and probably cost us a lot in the future.
They accelerated the timeline for China to take over the world.
Where are you going to go? Yeah, of course.
You're going to go to China.
And then so this puts Russia and China together.
So that breathes new life into bricks.
And then the only other outlier on that was India.
And who... Outside of Shinzo Abe, the great Shinzo Abe, and it's so horrible what happened to him, but outside of Shinzo Abe, I think the greatest relationship that Trump had with any foreign leader...
Modi. Modi. You knew exactly where he was going.
You could see it. I mean, I couldn't believe it.
I did all our...
India deals. A real estate company and stuff like that.
I've been there a whole bunch of times.
I understand how it works. And I mean, that was actually a legitimately amazing relationship.
And of course, why wouldn't you be?
You know that China's going to be the threat.
Who's the country that can actually balance some of that out with a comparable size population and industrial capability and all that stuff?
And it's India. And they're slated to overtake at a comparable pace to China in terms of growth economically.
This is why Russia is working with Iran to build a pipeline to India right now.
Because they understand that the only way that BRICS, if you look at it from the perspective of BRICS, the only way for BRICS to work is if you balance out India and China who hate each other.
But if you can balance them against each other, then the whole thing can rise together.
100%. So if we were serious and we wanted the G7 to compete, you'd want to court India.
You'd want to peel away Russia.
You'd want to break up the military alliances.
You were going to do all of these things.
We're doing the opposite. We're doing the exact opposite.
We demonize India.
Well, we're demonizing. We're creating serious enemies.
We're fighting the proxy war in Russia.
I mean, do you think that even in the swamp now, though, There's an element of fatigue with Zelensky.
It's never enough.
We're always around the corner.
Every time, you know, if they take out one Russian tank, you know, they lose four cities and it's crickets.
You know, they take out one Russian tank and now it's the Ukrainian offensive.
They're taking it all back. I mean, it seems like this is the greatest PSYOP in the history of the world, but that people could watch what happened in America over the last six or seven years and believe anything that's being said, I mean, there's no cure for that level of stupidity at this point.
So is there a fatigue?
Is there a point where we say, enough is enough?
Or is that just the difference between the swamp and what you or I may believe as sort of a MAGA strategy for what's going on?
It's such a good question because, of course, you have to try to determine how much of this is a true belief on the behalf of the foreign policy establishment, the blob, the State Department, etc., How much of this is Zelensky?
He's an actor, right?
Playing a role. Of course, he was one of the top names in the Panama Papers, so there are questions that people have had.
Is he just being paid off?
Is this a role? The answer is, of course he is, in a way.
But, you know, I really do think about those images that came out of him at that NATO summit where...
That's why I ask it, because it seemed like...
You've got to be this tall to ride on the ride, and he's not making it.
I made the pro wrestling reference earlier.
There's a phrase they have in wrestling called breaking kayfabe.
That's sort of like if you're putting on a show, but sometimes you break and show behind the curtain.
Those images of how upset he looked when he found out that Ukraine, no, actually, sorry, you're not going to be allowed into NATO. No refunds.
We played you.
So we'll give you some money.
I don't even know you played, but like, what?
What does that mean? If we let him into NATO, that's why I didn't understand the Lindsey Graham thing.
It's like, we're going to let him in and give him a path to NATO. I go, wait, wait, wait.
So, like, you know, I get we've been in a proxy war.
I get we've spent billions of dollars.
It's never going to happen. But we're going to let them join NATO while they're in an active conflict.
Like, we are then obligated.
Obligated to fight a war with Russia?
Like, are we out of our fucking minds?
And this is where I actually think the line is drawn.
I think the line is drawn right about there.
It's, we will...
And this is where I do feel so bad...
For the people of Ukraine that I visited.
We were in the war zone.
We were in that area, right, during the war.
And down to Odessa, Mikolaev, et cetera.
And you see the families.
And you see the people on the trains that are running around and then hear about the human trafficking and the child trafficking that goes on.
And Jim Caviezel talks about it with Sound of Freedom and they call him crazy and then they arrest a guy the next day.
Yeah, no. Trying to steal kids.
And, like, actually in the process of stealing an 11-month-old boy.
Well, I remember when Tim Ballard, who the story's about, he's a friend of mine, I met him in, like, 16 or 17, and I think I sort of de facto helped sort of get him set up at the White House talking about it, and they set up, like, a panel.
Right, right, right. And it was the first time it was even looked at, like...
The child sex trafficking trade and the left went nuts.
They went nuts that Trump would look at this thing like, seriously, isn't that something we can all agree is a problem?
And it thrives off of destabilization.
So if you can destabilize a region, if you can destabilize the Middle East, boom, then you get the refugee crisis, you get the migrant crisis.
If you destabilize Ukraine, boom, refugees, boom, migrant crisis, which always becomes a target for child trafficking networks.
So And not even get into that, all that.
Well, is that why, like, defensive borders is such a low priority for so many of these Western countries?
Because there is that depraved element there.
And if you have that, it just makes, there's some sick people, no matter where you are, and probably, you know, it's evidence.
I mean, the numbers are real. The stories are real.
I would say. Even if it was one-tenth the problem that it actually is, it should still be a priority for us to look into.
If they said, wearing a mask, if it saves just one life, we're going to inconvenience the entire world.
So if it saved just one kid, wouldn't that be the same?
And this is where I come down on it.
Normally I would say, I couldn't believe it, I would say no.
Normally I would say no.
But then I found out about Jeffrey Epstein.
Yeah. Right? And then once we found out about Jeffrey Epstein and the fact that this could operate at such a high level, I think it fundamentally changes the nature of how we understand international relations, international actions.
And so, just going back to Ukraine for a second, that if you actually care about the people of Ukraine, you would stop lying to them about the fact that they're going to get NATO protections and NATO security.
It's not happening. It's never coming.
But it's so far beyond that, Jack, because it's like...
All the men have to stay and fight and die against a much more powerful nation.
Listen, I think you could say Russia's underperforming perhaps what we all thought they would do.
I think they're holding back.
But I think they're also holding back.
I think they're holding back. You know why they're holding back, in my opinion?
Because of those similarities.
Putin doesn't want to go kill people that are essentially just like him, but they're being forced, the men are being forced to fight it.
And if you watch interviews with any Russian troops...
The women are being sent into Western Europe where they're going to become someone's wife in France and it's...
You literally see the globalists being like, we just bought a really big fucking farm.
We're going to own it.
We're going to control the food supply for all of Europe.
This isn't a conspiracy anymore because we've been watching it play out.
There's no other logical explanation.
It's like the carcass of a whale and they're picking the carrion.
They're picking off the bones.
No one's going back? To what?
Are they going to go back to rubble?
No one's coming back.
You know who is going to come back?
Blackrock, Blackstone, the IMF. They're going to go back.
They're going to own the world's largest farm called the Ukraine.
The men will all be dead.
The city is burned to the ground.
They don't care. They want the ag land.
And the women and children left to go.
And guess what? That's your lab-grown meat.
That's your GMO. All of that.
It's all going to come right from that land, which used to be the breadbasket of the world, the healthiest food in the world, was coming from this area.
A lot of that food that goes across Europe, that goes down to Africa, etc., the grain deals that they keep trying to talk about, that's because this is what Ukraine is.
It is Ukraine and Belarus just north of it.
And then Poland is just to the west, a little bit more.
Again, across the other side of the river, right?
That's right there. You know, parts of Ukraine today were historically parts of Poland even.
And so, because you have this huge flat land.
This is, by the way, that everybody thinks they can invade Russia.
If you think about it, right, because you look at it, it's all flat.
There's no natural barrier.
So if you've ever flown over it, you know, you can sit in the flight and be like...
I think I see why Napoleon thought he could make it.
Yeah, but it's so big and so long.
It's too big. Because once you get there, you're surrounded by Russia.
Correct. And that's the problem.
And it's brutal. And there's nothing there in between.
Thousand miles in and rough winter.
Napoleon learned that the hard way.
And Hitler came the closest with Stalingrad because if you look at the geography, and not to get too nerdy about the maps, but if you look at the geography, the Volga River, right?
This is the heartland river of Russia.
They know that. It's the river. It's all their myths and histories of the Vikings coming down to Volga, etc.
If you can separate the Volga from the Caspian Sea and the Black Sea, you can essentially cut off Moscow from what?
The Caucasus. So if you cut them off from the Caucasus, you cut them off from the Middle East, you cut them off from the oil supply, this is what Hitler was trying to do.
This is why he sent the Wehrmacht and so many people that he thought, if I can cut them out, then eventually I can knock the Soviet Union out of the war.
And if he had knocked the Soviet Union out of the war...
Then maybe not immediately, but eventually it would have got to the point where they'd be starved out.
This was why this and that.
And if you look at where Stalingrad is on the map, it's not very far from where Donbas is right now.
So we're just fighting the same wars over and over on the exact same territory.
And it's, you know, from their perspective, it's just, well, the West is coming again.
Oh, look, they're sending German tanks again.
Gee, where have we seen this before?
Here we go again. It repeats itself.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
All right, so let's change topics a little bit.
ABC News put out an article this week that it was sort of like, as if I needed another reason to sort of be supportive of Trump.
Now, obviously, I'm a little biased, but I think I wrote it down here.
Trump's campaign pitch, quote, elect me to get revenge on the government.
And They wrote it like, this is this horrible thing.
How could you... I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Like, that's the greatest pitch in the history of the world.
Like, who could objectively look at this government and saying they're honest dealers, that there's equal justice?
I mean, it's sort of the Don Jr.
vs. Hunter, right? Like, it's just...
No one expects any sort of level of equality or fairness.
It's the greatest campaign pitch ever, and yet the mainstream media still doesn't understand that.
They think, like, oh, this is terrible.
Like... What I love about that headline is because, you know, and we were talking before about the difference between like authentic candidates and like these sort of like corporate candidates, career politicians.
I write my own tweets.
I know you write your own tweets.
Everybody knows. You know why?
Because with the amount of spelling errors that I have in my tweets and like punctuation because I'm rushing or like voice to text, I couldn't pay someone to do that.
No, no. And everybody knows that your dad wrote his own tweets and truths.
Everybody knows that. So what's amazing, though, is about this ABC headline, it's such a perfect tweet.
It's like, why haven't I thought to put it that way before?
I literally, I saw it when it popped.
I was like, screenshot, screenshot, Instagram, Twitter.
We all did. Just send it.
Get it out there. And there's something hilarious about ABC saying it, of course, because that gives you the negative effect.
But it's like... It's like he could just get up there at every rally and, man, save a lot of time at the rallies and just say, if you elect me, we can get revenge on the government.
Everybody good? All right, I'm off to Michigan.
And people do do the thing, and I like your opinion.
Well, why didn't Trump do it the first time?
And I think, honestly, coming at it from an outsider, I just didn't expect people to be so...
Not willing to do what the citizens want.
Why didn't you win the war in one day?
Couldn't you have done that in one day? You've got to figure that out.
And perhaps why they have these headlines and it scares them so much is that now with four years there, you understand that system.
You understand who the good guy...
It takes a while to figure it out between the lines.
Chris Christie's out there defending Ray.
It's like... Chris Christie was the one that gave a recommendation to hire Ray, because these are all their friends.
And that's what people don't understand.
When you're from the swamp, when you're part of that, when you're a congressman or a senator or even a governor, these people have all been part of your ecosystem.
You're not turning on all of them.
Now, when that ecosystem...
You don't lie to you when it impeaches you twice, when it tries to imprison you for 450 years like they're doing to Trump, when it tries to imprison your family like they try to do to me.
You know what? Now you have no obligation anymore whatsoever to try to play nice and that scares them more than anything.
When they went after, people forget the timing of this, they were going after Flynn before the inauguration even began.
They had already started going after him.
They were running sting operations in the White House week one.
Week one, there were sting operations being run on the National Security Advisor.
So, for people to understand this, look, The MAGA movement and the election of Trump in 2016 is the most seminal change in politics in 100 years.
Because it's the only movement anywhere in the world, with the exception, I guess I would say, of Brexit.
It's sort of the core layer of Brexit.
And they both happen in the same year. So there's something, you know, there's something, too, that these things happen in, you know, not to go all Jordan Peterson, but Young believed in the sort of, like, the mass unconsciousness and all this.
I would say, because I'm a believer, that there's a spiritual element to all this.
And that people were finally given a chance and a champion to fight back.
And so, if you're going to say, why didn't he win every battle in one day?
I would say, grow up. Just be realistic.
This thing has been around for a century.
It goes back to Woodrow Wilson, and then really with the FDR administration, and then after that, the Clinton administration.
Well, you look at the FBI. The FBI's headquarters Is named after J. Edgar Hoover, arguably one of the most, if not the most corrupt and creepy political figure in American history.
They still named the building after him.
It's also the ugliest building in Washington, D.C. It is a complete eyesore.
It's like communist architecture.
Oh, it's straight out of, you could go to Moscow and look at the Stalin block housing.
From the 60s, yeah. Yeah, and then you would see it.
Actually, Tanya taught me the word.
It wasn't just Stalin, it was Khrushchev.
So they called them like Khrushchevskaya buildings or something.
I saw that, like, I lived in one, in the summers, I went to Czechoslovakia, and I'm like, you're like, holy crap.
I went from, like, the 68th floor of Trump Tower to the first floor of a 17-story walk-up, and it was like, oh crap, it's cheap, it's very easy to remake the building.
And it's disgusting, and so, and Hoover's a guy, so J. Edgar Hoover, one of his claims to fame is that when he would go to testify to Congress, he would turn the wiretaps off For about like a month before he went, maybe like a week before he went to testify, so that when they asked him, are you wiretapping any members of Congress, he could say, no, I'm not currently wiretapping any members of Congress.
And then he would leave and they'd go right back on.
I mean, the FBI turned against our elected leaders immediately and then through the power of the national security state, With the rest of the administrative state, we created this unconstitutional, unplanned-for fourth branch of government, which—and it's not even monarchical because there's no king.
There's no leader to it.
And so this is what I think your father accurately termed the swamp.
In 2016, he gave a name to it.
But it's also a perfect descriptor because a swamp has no leader or hierarchy.
It's murky. It's got crocodiles and alligators underneath it that you can't always find.
How do you fight a swamp?
You've got to drain it. You have to drain it, but that takes time.
And it doesn't just go willingly.
Of course. They fight back.
They fight back. And they have the capability.
They're willing to abuse that power.
And they drag you into it.
It's clear. They drag you down. So what do you think of, you know, the Chris Ray testimony, you know, last week?
I mean, that was... I mean, it was brutal.
It's like, I feel like he's just lying to us.
And if he's not, how does he not know?
I think it was... I mean, it was ridiculous.
And this was, by the way, one of the first times that...
And shout out to Elon, you know.
I'm not always a fan of everything that Elon does or a fan of all the different changes that he's made to Twitter, but what he's done is give us a chance to actually have free speech back.
And you can't take that away from him.
And he's put $44 billion of his own money on the line for that, so credit where it's due, 100%.
And so we were actually able to community note the FBI for the first time ever.
I saw that. That was incredible.
We got one over on the feds.
Can you believe this? It's the first time in American history something like this has been done.
So when Ray gets up there...
I like the grilling. I like the clips and the sound bites, but I just, I'm gonna put this in a Jonah Hill kind of way.
I'm in a different place where I don't just want these government worms and apparatchiks to be caught.
I want them behind bars.
I want them in jail.
I want to see people that have done these things to be in jail.
I'd be in jail. I'd be in Gitmo.
If I did the Hunter Biden stuff, Any of it.
You're gone. One little part of it.
I'm in Gitmo. Him, we have no idea.
What are you talking about? And this is what they're doing at the Joe Biden whistleblower, by the way.
Correct. 100%. So the Biden whistleblower...
We'll charge. I mean, this has never been done before.
He says, I was on...
He's like, I was on this deal, and they were taking money from China, and it was part of the CFC Energy, and they were giving money through Hunter to give to his dad in order to achieve policy outcomes, and I'm whistleblowing.
So they charge the whistleblower with a FARA violation by not registering as a foreign agent of China for blowing the whistle on the exact same thing that Hunter was doing.
Meaning if they charge him, he's Hunter's, like, partner.
Yes. Like, how do they not charge Hunter?
This is like the guy who comes, it's like the first guy who gets the best deal.
Like, no, no, this is the guy that you give immunity to because he's willing to testify against the rest of the gang and then you work your way up to Al Capone.
Yeah, especially now when you're talking about, well, if that was going on there, well, is it going on in China and with Russia or Ukraine?
Because now we're talking about, you know, maybe a war in Taiwan, but you're defending an inevitable takeover of Taiwan, especially with the weakness that's showed there.
But is our weak stance toward China Because of some of these things.
Is our aggressive stance on Russia because Ukraine has more information that would expose them and put them in jail?
Are we risking a nuclear war to protect Joe Biden's family's side deals?
because it feels like that could just be as plausible as anything else.
There's an interesting way to look at it is, and this is what I was kind of alluding to this earlier,
that I'd love to just sit down and turn the lights off, turn the, not the lights, but the cameras off,
the microphones off with one of these Chinese oligarchs, CCP leaders, and just say, so, you know, I get it.
If I were in your shoes, I would do the same exact thing.
Of course you would. Because if you want China to be the world hegemon and be the leader of this- To be the man?
You gotta beat the man. You gotta beat the man.
So, what do you do?
You go and you find out, oh, US politicians are for sale?
Great. How much?
Oh, you pay the kid?
Great, that's easy. Give him some board position on this.
We'll call it Burisma, for example, and we'll put him on the board.
And then you go to the dad and we go, hey, by the way, they've got this investigation going on.
Can you take care of that? All right, you take care of that.
And then China, we need most favored nation.
I'm not saying they're good. It's smart.
But they're smart. Like, do you think that, like, can anyone reasonably believe that, like, China would invest a billion dollars, as they did with Hunter, with a crackhead?
With a crackhead. They're not like us.
It's like part of the ESG requirements.
We need some diversity with crackheads.
We need to expand our portfolio to make sure that we're representing crackheads as well.
Their diligence process is a little bit more rigorous than that.
What they've done, I believe, is...
Correctly analyze the U.S. system.
And they understand that if you go and work with Wall Street, with the Chamber of Commerce, with groups on both sides of the aisle, on the Republican side of the aisle, there's a group called the Club for Growth.
I call it the Club for Chinese Growth because it's literally like China first, America last.
And then on the left, you can find people like the Bidens, etc.
So you play both sides so that you're basically counter-programming American politics to put the left and the right in your pocket.
Well, and that's the difference between, like, Republicans and America first.
Republicans and MAGA. Trump understood that, which is why he actually took on China, and that's why you got results.
The other guys, we talk kind of about it, but my billionaire donor, this is a problem I see with most of these guys who are dependent on those billionaire donors.
You saw it with the DeSantis flip-flop.
It's like, guess what, man?
That guy may be like, I love America, but if they can get their widget for one cent cheaper in China...
They're doing it, and they're gonna call in that favor, and they're gonna make sure that those controlled politicians do whatever they want, which is why that swamp and the establishment donor class doesn't want Trump, because they lose that ability because he doesn't give a shit.
He doesn't need their money. What you just said...
That's basically the same formulation that has characterized Chinese relations with the West for over 200 years.
It's going back to the British Empire and the Opium Wars.
Why did the British conduct the Opium Wars?
Because they wanted to open it up for British business, the East India Company, to get into the Chinese market.
That's the same thing. It's the same exact thing that we're doing right now, so that we are willing for our business interests to get in there.
But the problem is, and this is something where You can go back to the 1980s and find a guy by the name of Donald Trump saying, don't give them favored nation status, don't put them in the World Trade Organization, don't let them get into NAFTA because they're getting in behind through Mexico and Canada, which all the Chinese deal is. It's been remarkably consistent.
It's extremely consistent. And I say this all the time.
I know we talked about it the last time I was here as well, but it just bears repeating because people miss out because there's always so much news that you...
The two essential elements of all of MAGA are trade and immigration.
These are the two rails that every other establishment, and war is actually a function of both, interestingly enough.
It's a function of trade, which becomes a function of immigration.
That these are the two issues which only somebody who understands, not politics, but Business and the way the world works and the way money flows could accurately assess.
And I've always said I think that's Trump's greatest, beyond the stuff we all think is funny and the memes, that his greatest political strength was understanding that those are the two issues, by the way, where you can unite people on the left and the right.
100%. Because there's nobody that looks out there and says, you know, We need more illegal immigrants.
And I want more people taking jobs away from Americans at Disney and Silicon Valley.
I want to send your American dream to China.
That's a wonderful concept. What?
Are you kidding me? We've got a Republican primary going on.
We do. Sort of.
Well, yeah. But hey, listen, there's hundreds of millions of dollars spent to try to take out Trump to preserve.
That, right?
For that donor class.
Oh, that system's working great.
For the donor class and the Chinese Communist Party.
Yeah, that's not for the America First actual hard-working guy.
The gravy is running down the train.
Gravy is running down the train.
What's the inside baseball on the process of what's going on right now?
What do you think the dirty tricks that are going to be played?
Because like I said, there's literally hundreds of millions of dollars out there basically to just try to take out Trump, to stick in any one of the other guys at this point.
So there's two lines of effort that are currently being run to take out Trump.
One of them is traditional, one of them is unconventional.
The traditional line of attack is to find a candidate.
Originally, the donor class had lined up behind Ron DeSantis.
This is why, by the way, his gubernatorial campaign raised far more money than they ever needed,
because the plan all along was to transfer that over to the super PAC, never back down,
transfer as much as they were legally able to, and then that would become the,
so it's sort of like raising money for a national campaign in plain sight,
which some of us paid attention to in 2020.
Yeah, well, you see it because you understand the game.
I saw it, and it's like, this is clearly what's happening.
And as a resident of Florida, I'm like, it'd be nice to have a governor that was president, actually, because, like, you sort of did run, like, you were going to actually govern for four years.
And within about three months of being elected, it's like, I'm running for president.
I'm on the permanent book tour.
So because that money is all lined up...
They thought, a lot of these people thought that they'd be getting a quick ROI on it, but it's actually been the opposite.
So the more money that the DeSantis campaign has spent, the lower his polls have gone, which is actually the inverse of what normally happens.
Well, to get to know Ron is probably to dislike Ron.
And I say that as someone who did a lot for him in 18.
Like, I spent probably three weeks on the campaign trail with him, like, you know, helping get over it.
Like, he was going to lose to a, like a crackhead, you know, meth head.
What is What is that with these crackheads? Yeah, I don't understand.
The Democrats really have a lot, but he was going to lose that thing away.
But you can see, so that's why I was like, the image that's been created online by the sort of the paid influencers, you know, he's this, he's that.
Like, if you actually sit, and you've probably done it, you actually sit down and it's like, wow, that's not that guy.
You can create something in a marketing campaign, but that's not the interpersonal...
There's an idea of Ron DeSantis, and then there's Ron DeSantis.
And I have argued, actually, that he would probably benefit from sort of eschewing that You know, manufactured image and just sort of embracing himself more and just stop trying to be someone you're not.
You know, just talk policy.
You want to talk policy. You can tell when he talks to Tucker, he gets excited when he's talking about policy.
Just be yourself. Be known as the policy guy.
Do podcasts. Go out there and, like what we're doing right now, do long-form podcasts where you talk about policy more.
Do adversarial media.
Go out there. Again, just go out and be yourself.
That would be the one piece of advice.
I mean that truly. I do mean that truly.
That you would be doing much better if you just did that.
Instead of trying to do this weird...
Well, they're trying to be like...
They're trying to do... Be all things to all people.
Yeah, well, be all things to all people, but they're also trying to be Trump.
Right. You're either Trump or you're...
Trump's a unique guy, right?
Be the best Ron DeSantis. There's plenty of Asa Hutchinsons.
There's a billion of them in Washington, D.C., right?
Be the best Ron DeSantis you can be.
It's hard to just be Trump.
And, yeah, I don't think anyone can do that.
I really don't. I mean, you'd be the close, obviously.
You know, funny enough.
But that would be that.
So now with those donors, to get back to the lay of the land, what they're now attempting to do is say...
And Fox and Friends has had a recent very interesting segment, which I posted, where they were sort of talking about, where is the donor class going to go now?
Is it Glenn Youngkin?
Is it Tim Scott, who I also think shot himself in the foot over Ukraine, talking about the need to defend the world order?
It's like, excuse me?
I was like, have you seen anything that the Republican base, you know, let's call it 75% of the Republicans actually think of it.
That seems like the wrong sound.
It's like, do you spend any time with, like, regular people?
But is there such a thing as MAGA light?
Because I don't think that exists.
I think people see through it. Maybe they try to be a little bit of that, but it never really...
Why would you go see a tribute band when the main band is still playing?
Next door. Next door.
Everyone wants tickets for the real thing.
This was why nobody wanted New Coke.
This is why nobody wanted these other knockoff brands.
I don't want Mr. Pibb.
I want Dr. Pepper. You know what I'm saying?
No offense to Mr. Pibb.
I do actually like Mr. Pibb.
But you get what I'm saying.
There is a power in brand.
There's a power in authenticity. This is why you want those things.
And so that's the issue on the conventional side.
And I'll just spell it out.
There is no conventional way to defeat Donald Trump in this primary.
There is no conventional way, period, full stop.
They will not find a way to dislodge him.
Maybe there was a little bit months ago.
There was a little bit of an opening, but now I don't see it.
And so this is what I was going to say, though, and this is why there's also an unconventional method that's going on right now, and that's called the Department of Justice.
That's called indictments, and specifically the next indictment that we are going to see...
It's not just about boxes in Mar-a-Lago and were they classified or were they unclassified, whatever, right?
Not even any of that.
And it's not Alvin Bragg and whatever else.
You think Georgia? It will be a combination of Georgia and January 6th in what I believe, and I've had Julie Kelly on and we've gone through this at length, it will be, and if you look at those Charges of the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys.
What were they charged with? They were charged with seditious conspiracy.
Seditious conspiracy against the United States.
And they say all of these actions that were taken, if you read those charging documents, they get into way more than just January 6th.
Oh yeah, I mean, they're insane, but so is everything else we're seeing these days.
So they're trying to criminalize Essentially the effort to question the election of 2020.
So by criminalizing that, by labeling it as a seditious conspiracy, then you can create the We're good to go.
He was the first to really raise his name.
Norm Eisen has already started beating the drum on this, and he's written some pieces and op-eds in academic and legal journals that haven't gone very loud and haven't gone very far.
But what he said is, if you can convict Donald Trump in a D.C. jury, which, guess what?
If you put him before a D.C. jury, you're having a conviction.
If you can convict him of a seditious conspiracy that led to an insurrection, then it will trigger something called the Disqualification Clause of the 14th Amendment, which was originally written for Civil War Confederate officials so that they couldn't run for government again after the states have been brought back into the Union.
And if you trigger the 14th Amendment Clause against Trump, they'll say, You can't be on the ballot because you've been convicted of rebellion against the United States.
And they will try to strip him of the ability to actually go on the ballot and be in the primary to begin with.
And if this happens, First of all, something like that would obviously go to the Supreme Court.
How come no one's talking about that other than...
It's sort of clear.
I mean, I sort of feel that way.
They know they can't beat him, so they've got to keep going ahead.
He's the only threat to the uniparty.
Meaning there's no... The average Republican, they don't care if it's them or someone else.
As long as they can make their deals, then it'll be their turn, and then it's their turn again.
There's no accountability if you don't win or you don't do the things you say.
I get that it sounds far-fetched.
I don't think it sounds far-fetched at all.
Has anyone been watching?
If you've been watching, how is that far-fetched?
At this point, would you put anything past them?
Of course not. Would you put anything past them?
I don't even think that's moderately conspiratorial.
But it's their words. It's their words.
Based on everything, not only their actions, But on everything else that they've done.
Look at what they've done to the January 6th people.
Peaceful protesters locked up without due process for years.
They hide the exculpatory evidence for years.
If we did this as prosecutors anywhere else, we'd be disbarred and thrown in jail.
They're the government, so they can do that, and they'll figure out whatever angle, and they'll back into the result that they want, because there's no one holding them accountable.
There's no one that doesn't agree with whatever it is that they want to do, or there's no one willing...
Perhaps no one that has the balls to actually challenge those positions.
And so everyone sits back and say, hey, if I challenge that, they'll come after me, they'll come after my family next, like they did this.
So, I mean, the Oath Keeper stuff, it's insane to me.
But they are laying down the gauntlet.
They're showing you, if you question their authority, this is what's going to happen to you.
So fall in line. Don't speak out.
Go home. Don't speak out.
Right. I mean, you know, I think this should be, certainly amongst our people, this should be probably the most talked about story out there.
But it gets almost no track.
People aren't seeing that far ahead.
But again, based on everything we've seen for the last seven years, how can you not be thinking this?
This is what I think. Remember, you were thrown out of academia if you said, hey, do you think the virus started in Wuhan lab that studies the fucking virus in question?
Like... Oh my God, how dare you?
They go to Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford and they knock him out.
But I look at this and I see, it's like I said before about building the case up to Al Capone.
Well, look at it for their lens, right?
They view Donald Trump as the Al Capone.
So to them, the January 6th defendants, the Oath Keepers, the Proud Boys, that's them working their way up the chain.
And the culmination of this, again, with the Gen 6 committee and the reason to get all of the sort of normies out there, there's probably a...
30-31% of the country that does believe January 6th was an insurrection.
I actually agreed with Pence when he said, like, well, there was a rally and there was a riot.
And I was like, that's fair.
That's fair. We can agree on that.
There was violence. We can argue about who started the violence, but that's a great conversation.
You hear the stuff now about who started the riot.
How many feds were in there, what they knew and what they were trying to do.
I mean, I had Darren Beatty on the show.
He did great on the show. And I'd love to talk about that riot.
Well, I'd love to talk about it.
I'd love to talk about, like, how come no one's even interested in the bombs that were left at the DNC and the RNC? He was on two weeks ago.
He takes you through the step-by-step.
I've gone and trained with the Secret Service, and I've seen the dogs in action.
I got in the bite suit. Both the attack dogs as well as the bomb-sniffing dogs.
A Secret Service dog isn't missing a bomb under a bench two feet from the DNC. No way!
It's just not possible.
Hillary Clinton's lawyers aren't supporting a Republican insurrectionist like Ray Epps unless...
There's so much more there, but no one wants to ask the question.
If they push this plot forward, and we know that Eisen...
He's working with Jack Smith.
Andrew Weissman, your old buddy, is very, very well involved in this.
That's the guy that wanted to put me in jail for treason, just so you guys understand.
You know, a crime punishable by death.
He literally posted on Twitter every day that he wants you in jail for treason.
That he's probably like, oh my gosh, I haven't tweeted it yet.
That... If they, and I think if it goes to the Supreme Court, I do believe that they would strike it down because it's just too crazy.
But if they, and I'm going to say this, if they tried to take Trump off the ballot, it would blow this country apart.
It would blow this country apart at the seams.
Are there other stories like that that we're missing?
That aren't getting the coverage that they need?
Well, you mentioned Lindsey Graham before and this notion of his to introduce a resolution into the United States Senate that he's working with Blumenthal on, a Democrat, to introduce a basically de facto Article 5 for Ukraine, which is not a NATO member, but basically says that if...
If any type of nuclear weapon or tactical nuke or any nuclear So what they said is nuclear incident.
The phrase they use is nuclear incident.
With this Zaporizhia nuclear power plant, which Russia took very early on, shut it down, disconnected from the grid.
Reactor is still there. Six reactors, biggest nuclear plant in all of Europe.
Minor details. And if you know anything about Ukraine's history with nuclear plants...
Not awesome? Not the best.
Less than awesome? But that was the Soviet era, etc.
So... If there were an incident that it would trigger Article 5, which would require U.S. troops to go to war in Ukraine, and then you had a president who had just activated, say, 3,000 reservists to go to a country that was immediately bordering Ukraine, then you might think as though we're on a trajectory towards going— Yeah, what could go wrong?
What could go wrong? What's the worst that could happen?
No, it's clear that there is a trajectory towards direct U.S. involvement in Ukraine.
And I see it with, and I say this as a guy of Polish descent, that, you know, I can certainly see where, you know, it would start as we're going to establish a NATO safe zone or a NATO corridor.
And it's going to be around the West.
And a NATO peacekeeping force is going to deploy to protect.
You can hear it.
You can see the headlines.
You can hear it. And it's going to be an international NATO force.
And we're not going to be involved in direct attacks on Russia.
And it is a recipe for World War III. It's a recipe for World War III because you take a proxy war that we're already in with Russia.
It's not a proxy war.
It's actually not a proxy war. A proxy war implies that we don't already have boots on the ground, which we found out.
Which we do. By the way, another person that just magically disappeared.
Right. We haven't heard anything because, again, the establishment is fine with this notion that we actually have a boots-on-the-ground war beyond the, you know, multiple hundred So you take that, and then at the same time, when you find that we don't have artillery shells anymore, which, oh, that's nice, that the president just...
So it's like, by the way, if Red Dawn actually happened right now, and the Chinese and Russian militaries came up through Mexico, as happens in the movie by Amanda Milius' father, John Milius.
One of the great movies of all time.
I think the remake was not the same.
The original Red Dawn was...
Maybe the great movie of my childhood, along with the original Top Gun.
Look, remember the scene?
We all remember the scene.
The dad's at the fence and he's like, now you know why I was tough on you boys.
We need more of that, by the way, also.
Avenge me! So true.
And it hits you.
It hits you. Well, yeah, we don't have basic munitions, so our solution is, well, let's send them cluster bombs, which, by the way, in the past, was an act of war.
We're out to war, as Jen Psaki said.
Now it's like, oh, well, we ran out of like 9mm, so we'll send them cluster bombs.
So the question is, and this is where, and I'll bring up Mearsheimer here, because this is Mearsheimer's warning.
And we talk about this on Human Events all the time.
But he says, as a country, the current trajectory of the United States and our allies, as Darren calls it, the globalist American empire, We're already embroiled in this proxy war with Russia on the territory of Ukraine.
At the same time that it seems like we're dangerously escalating with China vis-a-vis the territory of Taiwan, we don't have the ability with the military as currently constituted not even to get into all those problems.
We need more trans-military members fighting because...
Putin will be very threatened.
Xi will just surrender when he sees— They will see the strength of our diversity.
And our pronouns.
And our pronouns. And they all say, we do not want any of this.
Actually, somebody—one of the candidates said something yesterday about—I think it may have been Ron DeSantis, now that I think about it.
And it just actually occurred to me that he said something about learning pronouns in Mandarin.
And it struck me as funny at the time, and I didn't pick up on it, and it actually just occurs to me now as we're recording this, the reason why it struck me as funny, because the pronouns in, and I speak Mandarin, the pronouns in Mandarin are all the same.
In verbal Mandarin, it's he, her, she, it.
It's all the same word, ta.
So, written is a little bit different, so they do have genders, but it's actually all the same in Mandarin.
So, funny enough, actually, Ron, the Chinese have already beaten us on that.
Because they're already there.
They only have one. They only have one for now, which is a little bit...
I was in Tanzania with my son a couple weeks ago, and one of our guys was taking us through.
I wanted to be like, hey, can you go into that Maasai village and just explain to them the idea of, you know...
This is the Matt Walsh thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no. But, like, I was literally...
He does that in the movie. Oh, really?
I didn't even see that. It was so funny.
It was just with friends, and we were there, and it was like, I got to see, you know, people living with nothing, you know...
Cattle herders and goat herders.
It was amazing. By the way, much happier than any of the purple-haired freaks that we see in America.
With nothing, they seem to be very content in life and smiling and having a great time.
But I was like, I just want to hear their reaction to it.
I have to give him credit because that's a scene.
It's in the movie where he goes in and he's talking to the tribesmen.
And the reaction goes, so do you believe a man can become a woman?
And the elder is just like...
What's this guy's problem?
If these are one of our concerns, you have it too good.
If that's what you're worried about in life, you have it too easy.
Where are you from? There's a funny story going back to China about the first Chinese emperor that meets and is learning about the West and he's being told by his couriers and his eunuchs about what the West is like.
So explain this to me.
Your two leading countries, one of them is a country that changes their leader every four years, as opposed to being, you know, the child of God, as I am.
And another one is an island that's ruled by a woman?
They're like, why would I take you guys seriously?
And then they roll in with the cannons.
I know we're all a turning point, so we're all running around, but should Trump do the debates?
Look, there's the policy, like, political operative side of me that says when you're this many points up in a debate, you can't win anymore because you're already at...
Yeah, like, do you give Chris Christie three hours to work with the rioters to crap on you?
Like, that's all they're doing, you know what I mean?
Like, we'll make ourselves relevant by crapping on you.
You're in it for the memes? I'm in it for the memes.
And by the way, I would also say, though, from an operative perspective, there's not just one election.
There's two. There's the primary election and then there's the general election.
So from a primary election standpoint, it makes no sense to do the debates.
From a general election standpoint, He stands to win everything by doing these debates.
Because having the champ get in the ring and just light up these jabronis one after one after one, Ric Flair style, throwing them out, just throwing them out, just throwing them out, I think that's something that's gonna break out.
I think that's something that your UFC fans, your non-political people are gonna see.
Everybody loves that Trump.
You gotta do at least one, man.
You gotta do at least one. Guys, check out Japsobic all over the place, everywhere on social and everything like that.
Follow him on Human Events. Go check that out.
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