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We're Going to Defeat Big Tech Censorship: Louisiana AG and Gov Candidate Jeff Landry on his Historic Legal Battle | TRIGGERED Ep.50

We're Going to Defeat Big Tech Censorship: Louisiana AG and Gov Candidate Jeff Landry on his Historic Legal Battle | TRIGGERED Ep.50  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Good evening and welcome to another awesome episode of Triggered.
Thanks for tuning in and today I'm excited because we're joined by my good buddy Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry.
Attorney General Landry is the leading candidate in this year's gubernatorial election in Louisiana.
He's endorsed by President Trump.
He's been a MAGA supporter since day one and he's a great
Conservative and America First warrior.
Attorney General Landry also got a huge, with a capital Y, win in his state's lawsuit against the Biden administration on big tech government censorship and collusion.
You're going to want to hear about this one because these are the things we always talk about.
Our AGs need to be fighting.
Conservative attorney generals need to be going after the insanity of the radical left.
They got to be doing it.
And unlike so many who just sort of sit there and they're worried about what the left is going to say, AG Landry actually did it.
He took it on
And he won.
It's a really big deal.
We've got to make sure we understand the details of that, so we'll get into all of that.
But this is a huge win for freedom of speech, for anti-censorship, for not allowing government to collude with big tech to suppress the truth, the real news, and what you guys would all want to know.
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With that, guys, we're going to go to my friend Jeff Landry.
All right, guys, welcome back.
And I'm here with my good buddy, Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry.
Jeff is, like I said, sort of in the intro, one of the guys that's actually doing all the things we want our Republican attorney generals doing.
He's not just talking to a small group of conservatives, telling them what they want to hear, but then doing nothing.
And he's one of the leaders of this major censorship lawsuit that we spoke about last week, where, well, I'll let him take us through it.
So, Attorney General Landry, great to have you with us.
Walk us through what the collusion was between the Biden administration and the big tech companies, and what about the ruling and the status of what's going on that we can learn from, because this seems like a really big one.
It is.
Look, I've said all along since last year that this case is probably one of the most important cases, biggest First Amendment cases, certainly in modern times.
And so let me just spend just a quick minute kind of walking everyone who's watching and listening to this through why this case is important and why we took this case on.
So we know from decades upon decades of Fourth Amendment Supreme Court cases that the government cannot go out and coerce or collude or partner with a private citizen or a company to basically get information to like say search your home, right?
So Fourth Amendment.
If the government doesn't have probable cause to get a search warrant, they can't go get your neighbor to go into your house and try to rifle through your stuff and find something and bring it back to the government.
That would be an illegal search.
It'd be a violation of the Fourth Amendment because that neighbor then becomes a government actor.
So, we have all these cases.
So, if it's applicable for the Fourth Amendment,
It should work for the first.
And that was our legal theory, because we knew that throughout the pandemic and throughout the election cycle in 2020, that many conservative voices were basically muzzled, where the volume was turned down on their pages.
They were shadow banned.
I don't know if you know any of them.
Yeah, I may know someone like that.
I may be related to a few others, but I know it happened to me big time.
And, you know, I was one of the first people that was, and honestly, even before 2020, but like, even once we got involved in politics, I go, you know, hey, I'm being shadowbanned.
How can you say that?
I was like, I was getting 5,000 retweets a post yesterday.
Tomorrow, you know, nothing changed other than now I'm being political.
Now I'm getting four.
They're like, well, 4,000, that's not that big a change.
I go, no, no, no.
Four, like four single digits.
So I saw what was happening.
There was no way for me to prove it.
I don't have access to the algorithm, but it was clearly happening.
Right, and so what we found, what our theory was, was that the government was actually involved in basically going to the social platforms, media platforms, and saying, hey, we don't like this particular post.
We don't like what Don Jr.
says here, or Tucker Carlson, or Robert Kennedy Jr., or whoever.
We don't like what Dr. Robert Malone and them are saying, and so we want you to throttle them back.
We want you to take them off of, basically, social media.
Maybe place some people in Facebook jail or take their accounts away.
When the government does that, when the government then coerces Big Tech to do that, and then Big Tech does it, that's a First Amendment violation.
And so we filed this case, I'll bring you back again, we filed this case back in like May or June of last year, and a lot of people laughed at us.
Mainstream media, oh this is going nowhere.
And then the judge, great judge,
He started giving us the ability to do discovery.
And then we started getting emails.
And then we started doing depositions.
Remember, we deposed Dr. Anthony Fauci.
We deposed Elvis Chan and the FBI.
And I mean, it was a treasure trove, Don.
I mean, the things that we found, like we found like Robert Flattery.
White House IT guy working directly for the President of the United States, President Joe Biden, saying, listen, I thought you guys were going to get Tucker off the air, or you're going to throw that back, or Robert Kennedy Jr.
stuff has to be taken down.
Like, I mean, email threads of back and forth discussions with Facebook and Twitter about censoring American citizens.
Then, then we start putting together, let's just talk about the Hannavine laptop.
Yeah, I was gonna say, that's obviously the other big one, right?
You had everything with COVID, you have everything with masks, you have everything with just the general censorship of conservative, but I mean, that was direct election interference as far as I'm concerned.
I mean, when you look at the statistics, I think it's like 17% of Democrats said that had they known anything about it, they wouldn't have voted for Joe Biden.
Like, that's game over right there.
Like, so for the people that complain a lot about election interference, they're awfully silent about the fact that they were actually doing it themselves.
Well, let me tell you, if I was you, I would get this 154 page opinion.
I can flag the pages for you because Judge Doty goes through that extremely carefully and very articulately.
He articulates
Exactly.
What the FBI knew when they had the laptop, they refused to tell social platforms that this was not Russian disinformation or Russian interference, and basically spells out for you that guess what?
They tilted the election.
Because look,
The FBI had the laptop, which we know now, in their possession.
They are communicating with Facebook and Twitter and telling them, look, you have to look for a Russia data dump, a Russian interference, you have to be on guard.
And then the New York Post publishes the Hunter Biden laptop story, and what is the first thing the social platforms do?
They start suppressing it, okay?
They start debunking it.
And the FBI, don't you think the FBI
Well, if we're naive enough to believe that they're good actors, yes.
I mean, if they're truly law enforcement and trying to act impartially, the answer is yes.
But I don't know that they've done anything, not a thing, that I've seen in the last five or six years, maybe longer since we've gotten into politics, to actually
Earn that trust and that respect, the reputation that perhaps they used to have.
I think, frankly, they've done the opposite.
I think they functioned as one of the worst state actors perhaps we'd ever seen.
I think they're making, you know, Mao, Stalin, those people, they're making them blush because they're doing it, you know, at least those guys didn't pretend to be objectives.
These guys are pretending to be objective while functioning as, you know, a wing of the other side.
Well, you know, the interesting part is the difference between America and, say, Russia or Germany or China, okay, when those dictators were basically terrorizing their citizens, the one difference, the major difference between us and them was that they didn't have a First Amendment right, but we do.
That First Amendment is what is supposed to guard us from exactly that type of conduct.
Because free speech is not supposed to have an approval process, right?
And so what we found inside of this case, and what the judge found, and he lays out an opinion,
Or those exact same things, and he spells it out.
Look, they had possession of the laptop.
They did not notify the social media platforms.
They did the opposite.
He goes to the gain-of-function and Dr. Fauci, where they throttled back epidemiologists and virologists who were questioning the origins of COVID-19.
I mean, don't the American people have a right to have a debate as to where the origins of the virus are?
In what universe was the Wuhan lab leak theory not the most plausible answer?
Of course it came from there!
It came from six feet outside of the lab that studies the exact virus in question.
Obviously nothing happened, and if you believe something happened, and even if you ask the question when it's clearly the most plausible answer,
You were thrown out of academia.
You were thrown out of medicine.
Anthony Fauci would cut off your funds if you were doing other research.
So they got people to go against the science and just fall in line with whatever they were told, even if it made no sense whatsoever.
And you know what the judge calls that?
In the opinion, he calls that viewpoint discrimination.
Think about that for a second.
That's basically saying that your viewpoint
It should be muzzled.
We're going to control exactly what people say, hear, and understand.
And that's problematic.
Of course, it's completely un-American.
And that's the kind of conduct that went on in this case.
I mean, he goes all the way through it.
It's unbelievable.
And of course, here's the lovely part.
The mainstream media, oh my word, their hair is on fire.
This case is going to, you know, it's a threat to national security.
The government's not going to be able to handle pandemics.
I think it tells you everything you need to know about the left's love of censorship.
I have it right here.
The left has been freaking out.
They claim disinformation will run rampant.
It's like, wait, wait, what disinformation?
You mean like that maybe masks aren't effective?
Like a doctor debating that when, oh, like so many of the conspiracy theories, again, Wuhan lab leak, masks, efficacy of everything.
The conspiracy theorists,
All were right.
They all were right.
It's the same media that was running around for five years telling us about Russia, Russia, Russia and how Trump was colluding.
Well, that's a lie.
But if you questioned it at the time, you were spreading misinformation because liars like Adam Schiff would get up there.
I've seen the evidence.
I've seen the evidence.
It works for our narrative.
Therefore, as ridiculous as it sounds,
It's true.
And we're just going to run with it.
But so you're right.
I like the viewpoint because you're not even I see this all the time when I get fact check on Instagram or Facebook.
It's like.
They're fact-checking me having an opinion, which is, I believe XYZ.
I'm not saying it happened.
I believe based on everything I've seen, and we don't know a direct answer, but the fact-checkers know, you know, some credible source says that, but I go, but that's not definitive.
Just because they say it doesn't mean it's true.
We've seen that time and time again, and so
You know, they're creating innuendo around what fact is.
They're fact-checking opinion.
So I liked what you said, which is like even fact-checking the notion of discourse, because that's different than fact-checking a fact that we can all object to.
You know, one plus one is two.
Fine.
You can fact check that.
But hey, I think that maybe it came from the lab.
You haven't released anything contrary to that.
Just because Fauci says it, doesn't mean it's gospel.
I saw his emails.
His emails to his colleagues said one thing, and his words to the American public, when
Turned himself into, like, a celebutant on TV, and he loved every second of it, were totally the opposite.
So which one was true?
Because two opposites can't be true in the same period of time, and yet he controlled the narrative and the gospel and contradicted himself along the way.
And he was deceitful the entire time.
He was deceitful to them, your dad, the president.
He was deceitful to the American public.
He was trying to hide the gain-of-function trail of money that they were colluding—I mean, not colluding, they were basically working with the Chinese.
So our government was out there spending American tax dollars in China to basically do research on things that are going to harm Americans.
That's one of the big things he was trying to hide.
And the GDA came out the bottle.
Right.
And but he lied.
Didn't he say that it wasn't happening?
I mean, he told the public it wasn't happening.
And then, of course, it was because we all knew it was because that's the kind of scumbag that he is.
But because, again, he was carrying the you know, it's like Brennan and Strzok.
You know, you can lie to the FBI.
You can lie to the American people.
You can lie to Congress as long as you're doing their bidding.
Nothing's going to happen.
Just like Hunter.
Right.
You can.
Yeah, sure.
Like, you know, we're there.
They can't find out who had the coke in the White House.
I wonder, you know, of course they're never going to find it.
They're doing that bidding.
Well, I'm glad you went down there because look, that's why this case is so important.
I mean, don't you think so?
Let's say this case had not come about.
Let's say we had not filed this case.
There would be backdoor channels of information going between the White House and social media.
Their ability to basically hide the fact that there was cocaine found in the White House would be greater today had this case not been filed, had this judge not enjoined it.
I mean, to what limit does the government get to hide things from the American people about their government and about the people who operate inside of their government?
I mean, what do you think would happen if they'd have found cocaine in the White House when your dad was there?
Jeff, just so we understand, I saw a lot of people last week saying that it was me.
I haven't been in the White House in three years.
They were out there saying that it was me.
Not the guy that's on video the same week released, you know, smoking crack going 170 miles an hour in a car.
Not the guy that's repeatedly on video doing, you know, pretty serious illicit drugs.
It was me.
So yeah, I have a feeling if it was the Trump White House and Don Jr.
happened to be anywhere near the White House or within three or four months of the White House, there would be no
Do you think maybe it could have been done?
It would have been me, because obviously that's who it would have been in the eyes of the media.
Just like, of course it was Hunter.
You think it was the White House medical staff bringing cocaine?
I doubt it.
They all get tested.
Everyone else goes through serious screenings.
Guys that are protectees of the United States Secret Service, of which Hunter is one, don't go through the same level of screening.
Of course he could do it.
And you have the minor issue of he's a known
Look, all you got to do is take a look at what's in the laptop.
There's a very detailed report that's out there on the internet.
I forgot the name of the fella who did the Marco Polo report.
That just basically lays everything out.
But again, all of that is information that the American public has a right to know.
OK, listen, in our private capacity, you as a private citizen, the things that you do.
And yeah, you've got an expectation of privacy.
However, people like me who put themselves out, who, you know, right now I'm running for governor.
You know, I don't I don't have that same expectation of privacy.
And as the attorney general,
Then the public has a right to say, well, you know what?
I want to be able to judge the things that he's doing is his official capacity or not.
And that's the importance of this.
That's why the laptop in this particular case, in my opinion, was so important.
That's why the things that Fauci did to hide the origins of COVID-19 are so important.
It's why when you go out there, I mean, let's take Tucker Carlson.
Let's take the issue.
I mean, we have emails.
From the White House to social media companies saying, hey, I thought y'all were going to do something about Tucker's show.
Because I think I don't remember what the topic was.
It was something about COVID-19.
Maybe it was the vaccines.
Maybe it was the mask mandates.
I don't remember.
Maybe it was all of them because they were all wrong.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah, and they throttled him.
I mean, he's a journalist, for Pete's sake.
To me, that's almost like a double violation.
Freedom of speech and freedom of the press.
You know, again, those are things.
And the greatness about this case is it's just in its infancy stages.
Talk about that.
What are the next steps?
Because first of all, it's an injunction, right?
So it's not necessarily decided law.
It's a pause.
So will the injunction hold?
Now, I mean, it seems like a no-brainer, but the other side has this thing where they
You know, they'll get it in front of an appeals judge and then they'll sort of, you know, they'll keep trying to put it in front of someone until they find a leftist who doesn't exactly believe in the Constitution, you know, who will then say, oh, it's, you know, while it may be obviously a free speech issue, that doesn't matter.
We're going to rule against it.
So, you know, talk about that, because I think it has and could have an incredible effect on 2024.
Not having it had, in my opinion, an incredible effect on 2020.
Again, on a Biden laptop, whatever it may be, just the general suppression of anything positive that Trump could have done, the suppression of any negative information about Joe Biden, as well as the artificial boosting of
The incompetence that we see in the White House today to make him seem like he's a reasonable guy with a good record and yada, yada, yada, as opposed to what everyone knew, which was he's the dumbest senator that was currently, in my lifetime, occupying an office in the United States Senate.
So will the injunction hold?
And talk about what you said.
It's in the infancy.
What does that mean?
How do we keep growing to grow the strength of this?
Because this, to me, seems
Like, you know, it's literally the free speech issue of our time, because if it doesn't stand, if someone's able to do it with the weight, the power, the one-sidedness of big tech, I mean, this is everything.
This is.
This is.
This is really the First Amendment on trial.
That's really what this case is about.
And so you're right.
We have a preliminary injunction that's in place.
The government is going to appeal that particular injunction.
I think that's going to go to the Fifth Circuit.
I like our chances.
I think that the judge did a great job.
Of spelling out everything that he found and the reasons why he ruled the way he did.
And then also he tailored the injunction to give the government plenty of runway, plenty of opportunity to continue to put information out to the American people and to be on guard.
Look, nothing in this order.
So you go out there in the mainstream media and you read, this order is going to prohibit the government from protecting us.
We're good to go.
We're good to go.
It'll be interesting at that stage whether the Supreme Court takes it.
I don't think it will.
I think they'll just deny the writ.
The injunction will stay in place.
And when we continue to litigate and move towards an actual trial, so we'll do more discovery, we'll ask for more emails, we'll really start prying into what exactly the conduct was.
And then we'll have a trial on it.
And then, of course, they'll appeal it.
And ultimately, I think this case ultimately ends up at the Supreme Court.
But you're right.
It's important for the 2024 election cycle.
Why?
Because it should have a chilling effect on the government interfering in Americans' rights to go to the poll and have the information necessary for them to make an informed decision.
And that's how it should be.
The fact that me and you are having this discussion is literally appalling.
It's actually ridiculous.
Now, again, and I also don't want to say, I don't want to, I love where it's going, but like, I have a feeling Big Tech is still going to do the bidding of the Democrat Party almost irrespective.
This just makes it a little bit harder.
I mean, this is a step in the right direction.
It's, you know, it's a chip.
Uh, you know, off the block, uh, of what's been going on forever with the Democrats and their ability to do that.
You know, they have it with the mainstream media.
They got it with big tech.
They, you know, those people would do the Democrat bidding, you know, probably, uh, irrespective of the collusion, you know, coming from it.
We're just making a little bit harder for them to do what they'd want to do or for them to get the talking points to them, but I'm sure they'd figure out a way.
Well, we're trying to take one of the players off the field, right?
Yes.
And that is like the federal government.
I mean, right now, we've got the federal government, the Democratic Party, okay, and big media, all right, and social media, so mainstream media, the Democratic Party, the federal government, okay, they all are marching to one drum, censoring Americans, suppressing their speech,
Trying to do what they can to stifle debate in the public square, in the virtual public square.
And so what we're doing here is taking one of those players off the field.
The player that should not have ever been.
I think this is important.
That's the player that should have never appeared.
The federal government has no place in this.
This is completely a violation of the First Amendment, and I'll tell you something else.
The courts or Congress must act.
One of the things that I would hope to come out of this right now is for Congress to act and for Congress to put in place a statute that creates civil liability.
I love that.
So, anyone watching, like, make sure you speak to your congressman about that.
Now, the problem is it'll probably die in the Senate, right?
So, we gotta win back the House, the Senate, and 24th so that we can do it and we can actually effectuate that.
But you're right.
I mean,
If they continue to try to bypass that, there should be consequences to essentially, you know, stymieing Americans' free speech.
Because, I mean, this is happening from the government.
It's happening one-sided.
I have a feeling that if the roles were reversed, it was conservatives that controlled it, the Democrats would be trying to throw everyone in jail.
So I love that.
And that's the next step of that progression.
They're not trying to throw everyone in jail.
Hey, listen, I mean, they're trying to throw my father away for a little bit of time, 450 years.
You know, what's 450 years between friends?
It's only, you know, a little less than half a millennia.
So, you know, no big deal.
But yeah, no, I think that's a really important point.
So talk about, because you're running for governor, you're attorney general now, how do you make sure that the guy that gets
Sort of the keys to this lawsuit in the end, right?
If you're running it now, it's going to see it through the way that you do.
Well, look, we've got a great candidate that's running for Attorney General.
You might have met her before, Liz Muro.
She's our solicitor general.
She's the one that built the team that brought this case with Missouri, with Eric Schmidt in Missouri.
But, you know, I'll tell you, you know, let's talk about that for a second.
Let's talk about the governor's race, if we could.
You know, for many people that are listening and watching out there who feel the frustration, who have anxiety about the direction of the country, who are frustrated with the swamp and with Congress, rightfully so, I believe that one of the ways
That we fix the country is by fixing our states.
And when there's a critical mass of states that are pulling in the same direction, okay, and you do that through the governors, that you start to actually impact the overall policies of the country.
And that's one of the reasons I'm running because I'm going to tell you, I love the job.
I mean, this is a great job.
I've had so much fun, met so many great people, done some great work like this case and others that we've taken before.
But, you know, Louisiana is in a tough spot in the South.
It's one of the only states in the South where more people are moving out than moving in.
It's a shame because you can go anywhere in the country and find a taste of Louisiana in any menu.
I mean, look, you don't have to come here, hunt, fish.
We've got great people.
The culture is wonderful.
Everybody says, man, the people of Louisiana are just so great.
They deserve a government as good as the people of this state.
And that's what we're trying to give them.
Yeah, no, I think that's, I mean, that's really well said because it's true.
I mean, I think we saw that certainly during COVID, you know, Trump left it to the states because as conservatives, that's what we believe, you know, the state's rights.
And you see what happened in the liberal states controlled by the left.
They took power, they wanted to keep it as long as they possibly could.
In the conservative states, it was the opposite.
And so, you know, the governors in many cases, for you as an individual, as a citizen, means much more, you know, than probably, you know, we need them all, but like then your congressman or your senator in terms of what you're seeing and living on a daily basis.
I mean, and you're right, I love Louisiana.
I go there, for those of you guys who don't know, like I've known Jeff for a while, he puts on a great
It's a gator hunt, and people come in from all over the country.
I got a little trouble with my Secret Service detail a couple years ago, the first time I went, because someone bet me a couple bucks that I wouldn't jump in, like, the lily pads where we just pulled out, like, three 12-foot gators and go for a swim.
And I'm getting there undressed, and they're like, what's going on?
And that one went a little bit viral, because I was like, hey, you know, a bet is a bet.
We're going to do this.
I don't think any of them were coming in to rescue me if I got bit, but it's an awesome time.
You know, I go there for sporting stuff.
I go there deer hunting.
I go there duck hunting.
I go there gator hunting.
Fishing's incredible.
I mean, it is an amazing state for that.
But I've also seen, like, the stats, not surprisingly, right, but in the big cities.
I think Louisiana has three cities in the top ten most dangerous cities in the country.
So, you know,
I mean, you do have a Democrat governor right now, but why is crime so out of control?
And what can you do to do that?
Because that spills out, right?
The crime there, things pass through the rest of the state to happen, whether it's drug traffic or whatever it may be.
Other people are affected by that crime in those cities, not just the residents of those cities who are getting crushed.
Well, I think, look, one of the reasons is we made some very damaging and systematic changes to our criminal justice system.
Um, whereby they just tried to empty our jails.
The goal in reforming the criminal justice system should always be how do you keep people from going to jail?
Not how you let people out of jail.
Okay?
As a police officer, sheriff's deputy, as attorney general for seven, almost eight years now, prosecuting great cases.
That's what I've seen.
And so what we did was we really dismantled our criminal justice system.
We made it less transparent rather than more transparent.
We made it more confusing.
We packed on way more rights on the criminals back and less on the victims.
And we intend to right that particular ship.
You're right.
We've got three cities.
I mean, think about it for a second.
Louisiana's four and a half million people.
Three cities in the top 10 most dangerous cities in the entire country.
And there's no excuse for that other than our criminal justice system and our ability to hold those accountable to be able to go inside of those cities and say, OK, what exactly is wrong with it?
Yeah.
That's great.
What are the issues that are, you know, on the top of voters' minds?
I mean, I was watching last week, you know, Joe Biden ran around doing his, you know, talk about Bidenomics and, you know, how great it is.
I'm trying to, I'm like, I don't know, man.
If I have sticker shock when I go into a grocery store or when I see interest rates or any, like, I'm the son of a billionaire.
Like, if I notice it, it's gotta be hitting everyone.
You know, what does Bidenomics look like in Louisiana and what are the issues that are on the other issues that may be on top of voters' minds there now?
Well, first of all, Bidenomics is crushing Louisiana jobs, right?
He has done everything he could to stifle the manufacturing that goes on.
You know, Louisiana used to be home to 23 percent of the refining capacity in the entire country.
After the last eight years under this current governor, we've lost 2% of that over to Texas.
But they're doing everything they can to hurt those refineries, to hurt that manufacturing space, everything they can to stifle oil and gas exploration.
That affects Louisiana as well.
So his economics don't work for Louisiana.
We're going to work to change that.
Of course, some of the things we've done as AG is to fight back against those particular policies.
But on the minds of people in Louisiana, three things.
Number one is actually crime, which we talked about.
We know why.
Number two is education.
Louisiana lags.
I mean, they're like 50th in education.
I mean, it really is.
It's terrible.
Look, Don, we've got 74% of our third graders can't read in Louisiana.
80% of 8th graders can't do basic math.
Our schools are failing our kids.
And we wonder why crime is so high.
You know those things correlate.
My mom was a teacher.
She taught in a public school system.
She taught in a parochial system.
She was a principal.
She was a coach.
And she'll tell you.
I mean, the most important voice in a child's education are parents.
And we've taken the voice of parents out of the educational system and put more bureaucrats into the system and less teachers.
We've basically not allowed teachers to teach anymore.
We put these standardized tests out.
We put so much pressure on the teachers for their students to pass these tests that all we're doing is teaching these kids to test.
We're not actually teaching them.
We're not learning.
I mean, I assume that's all coming from the teachers union, or is it?
Is it worse than that?
I think it's where you know we've actually I've been talking to a lot of teachers and actually superintendents.
And they're seeing the same thing and they're feeling the same down or what's going on in other states.
You know, Louisiana is kind of a right to work state unions or not.
You know where they are like on the on the East Coast.
But you know, we want our kids.
We want teachers to teach kids
How to think, not what to think.
That's a very important distinction.
And the curriculum over the last decade, maybe more, has been, we want to basically indoctrinate kids on what to think, not how to think.
We've taken away critical thinking.
Well, that's happening at university level, too, right?
You're not allowed to have an opinion.
I mean, what would have been considered at any other time in modern history the finest institutions in the world?
Of course there's 9,752 genders.
I mean, obviously.
That's apparently science now.
And if you have a dissenting opinion, rather than having
Healthy and civil discourse, or an argument about it, which does teach you critical thinking.
The only way you can actually get ahead is by just regurgitating what they tell you, even if it's ridiculous or ludicrous.
Right, well, you know, you took the words right out of my mouth.
This actually started in the universities and has trickled down into our K-12 schools now, okay?
And you're right, and it started out by, again, basically doing the same thing
That we discussed at the beginning of this show was having viewpoint discrimination, not allowing young minds and young people to be able to debate.
Let me give you a great example of this, okay?
Let's take economics, all right?
I love to do this.
I go around, I see a young man, a young woman, oh, are you in college?
Oh, yeah, what are you in?
I'm in finance.
I mean, I'm like, oh, really?
You're in finance?
Yeah.
You take any economics classes?
And then I loved it when he said, well, we take it macroeconomics.
Oh, what's macroeconomics?
I don't know what macro, microeconomics, I don't know.
But either way, this is the question I ask them.
So let me ask you, do y'all, do y'all learn Keynesian or Austrian economics?
And they look at me like I got horns coming out.
What is that?
To me, that's the point.
The university should be able to teach or offer to the student both sides of the equation so that those students have the ability to look at those things, weigh them out, discuss them, debate them, and then decide for themselves, hey, do I like this type of economics or this type of economics?
I mean, we don't even do that in America anymore.
And those universities were built to do exactly what I'm telling you, to give students the ability to balance and to debate those issues.
You know it, but what they've done, they indoctrinate kids.
Yeah.
So, you know, you're running for governor.
You're doing some amazing things.
What are the differences and, you know, and the similarities perhaps in running for governor versus running for attorney general?
Is there a difference?
Is there a difference in strategy, approach, how you do that?
Well, you know, Louisiana has one of those crazy jungle systems.
You know, we got to do everything different, which, of course, may be one of the reasons we last.
And so everybody gets on the ballot.
We all qualify in August, and everybody runs in October.
Democrats, Republicans, Independents, whatever you are, you just pile in.
And then the two top vote-getters then move over to the November election.
The governor's election has always been the 800-pound gorilla, okay, of the races.
It consumes all of the oxygen in the state.
Everybody's up, the whole legislature's up, sheriff's up, but the governor's race really is the one that consumes everything.
So we're at the top, so we're on a big stage, and as you know, they're shooting at us.
Um, but I think that, you know, for our strategy is this we want to go out there and tell the citizens of the state.
Hey, look, this is the job we've been doing for you over the last eight years, and we didn't care whether you were a Democrat or Republican or an independent, whether you're black,
White or brown, we went out there and protected your liberties, your way of life, your culture.
We want an opportunity to do the same thing to fix our educational system, to fix our crime problem, and to create great jobs in Louisiana and get people moving in rather than moving out.
So what role do you currently have as Attorney General in being able to fight crime?
We spoke about those things.
You mentioned the consent decree, and I think that's something done with New Orleans and the Justice Department, almost carving out.
Explain how that works, because it feels like
You have the federal government essentially making almost your job, or at least a component of your job, a lot harder to accomplish because they're basically carving you out of it.
How does that work so that people really understand it in detail?
That's a great question, because people should understand that irrespective of where they live.
Because when I became Attorney General, I think there were like 12 or 13 cities that the Obama administration had placed under consent decrees.
Some of them, or many of them, in the top 10 most dangerous cities.
Okay?
Still today.
And basically what those consent decrees do,
is it's a federal takeover of your police department and so people who are listening out there and watching should always
Be alert when they hear consent decree.
That equals, that translates to the federal government taking over some function of what belongs to either your local government or the state.
Now listen, the federal government, we know, doesn't do a whole lot good, okay?
And they certainly can't manage a police department.
If you want to go see one, what it looks like when the federal government manages, when a federal judge manages a police department, go down to New Orleans right now, which is one of the most dangerous cities in the entire country.
And it's that way because they put in place policies that handcuff the police.
They're constantly making them train more.
They're under a policy, they can't even chase a suspect.
They can't even run down the street and see somebody breaking into your car or somebody shooting somebody else.
They can't go on a high-speed chase.
That's banned from now.
And then they gotta say, oh, Don, we just saw you, you know, carjack or basically assault this female.
Would you mind putting your hands behind your back?
Would you please do that for us?
No, I'm not going to.
Okay, then have a nice day.
Yes.
Yes, exactly.
I mean, think about it.
And so those are the things that happen when you get into a consent decree.
And we've been railing against this thing.
And I'm going to tell you, when your dad was the president, we were like this close to getting that consent decree lifted.
And really, the federal government has no business taking over any state or any city's jobs.
So, you know, yeah, because I've seen that.
Obviously, you're a friend, and so I follow what's going on.
I've seen one of your opponents in the governor's race is sort of trying to blame you for that, but it doesn't seem like you actually have anything to do with it.
I mean, would you as governor be able to push back on that?
Would you be able to, you know, break that up?
Or does the federal government in this case actually sort of, you know, let's call it Trump the states rights?
No, the good news is the governor's in charge of the state police.
I'm in charge of like 35 investigators.
And we don't have original jurisdiction on prosecutorial matters.
We only have supervisory jurisdiction.
So it's real hard for us to get a hold of cases or to wrestle cases away from, say, local DAs.
We want to, as governor, we will be able to change that particular policy, or if we need to change it, and put it in a place where we can hold those DAs
Uh, and judges accountable.
So that's a, that's a major, major difference from being the Attorney General and the Governor.
I mean, look, we've done everything we could to combat crime.
We were the only statewide elected official, the only one, to push back against the things that the Governor and them were doing that basically have caused violent crime in Louisiana to escalate.
We were, we, we were the only ones who went out there and tried to reform our drug courts.
Because look, the criminal justice system, it's important.
And you know this, because y'all worked on it.
It's important that when good people make a bad decision, they get a second chance.
When bad people make a bad decision again and again and again, they got to go.
Or when they do real awful things, they get to be put away for a long time.
And so that's the kind of system we want to build.
We went and reformed our drug court system.
The state of Louisiana is getting $750 million from the opioid settlement that we litigated.
We wanted to put that into our drug courts.
The governor vetoed it.
Why?
Politics.
Because it had my name on it.
We're not going to play politics.
We want to take care of people.
Yeah, no, that's a big one.
You know, speaking of sort of, you know, playing politics, you know, where do you see the 2024 Republican primary going?
I mean, you see Trump now with over 60% in the polls.
It feels like so many, to me, so many of the candidates are
We're good to go.
Well, I think, you know, the sad part is, is that Republicans out there who do those kind of things, all they do is create losers on our side, right?
I mean, if you look at what the Democrats do, why they've been able to make the gains they've made, why the country is crumbling is because they've been able to consolidate their power and their
I mean, I thought we all care about people, right?
I mean, at some point in time, you look at the polling.
You see the momentum.
You see an opportunity.
Why don't you go and say, look, let me be a part of that team.
Let's work on this together.
Let's all pull in the same direction.
Let's all pull for freedom and liberty and bringing jobs back into America.
But for whatever reason, I don't know.
They have a tendency to either live in a particular bubble, where it's like an echo chamber, I think some of them get in, and they don't get out there.
The one thing I have to say about your dad, whether people like him, dislike him, whatever,
The man actually, this is the one thing, people will actually say, oh, you met Donald Trump.
Tell me about him.
I say, you know what?
He's got a tremendous amount of humility.
Like, I've watched him.
He won't walk over and talk to anybody, okay?
And he cares deeply about the conversation that he's having with them, whether they're a janitor, a cook, a teacher, a police officer, whomever it is, irrespective of their economic background or whatnot.
Truly cares what they have to say.
To me, that's really what public servants are supposed to do.
You know, you call that servant leadership.
You don't just sit in a particular bubble telling yourself that you're better than you are, right?
And so that's what I'm hoping that, I'm hoping the primary system
Yeah, we'll see.
By the way, it's an interesting point you make, because I've had this conversation with a couple people who also know him like you do.
And I'm like, even during other things, I'm like, he actually has the empathy that he does not like the show because he doesn't want to
Appear to be the nice guy when he's like, no, no, no, but I'm dealing with Iran and China and Putin and North Korea.
Like, if I'm the nice guy here, it makes me look, there's an old school mentality there, but I'm like, man, I don't want to say it's, you know, maybe I'll say it, I'll get in trouble for it, but I mean, perhaps that's the, you know, I don't, maybe a political liability that, because he has something, right?
We know those people who are incapable of empathy or emotion.
That's different.
When you're capable of it, but you actually sort of don't want to show it because of a different reason.
It's an old school mentality, but like, I'm like, man, I wish he saw that.
Like you see that maybe with some of his competition where they're, they're incapable of talking to regular people.
They're, you know, you know, on some level on what you just, they're not that way and they can,
Create a personality online, having influencers do it, but it doesn't translate to the real world.
He actually has that, just doesn't like to show it often enough.
That's why, like, the behind-the-scenes things, you know, when he's at McDonald's and he's going back and forth, you, like, see, oh, people love him because he actually has that ability, and not everyone does.
He just doesn't like to really show it on purpose, you know, which is weird.
Well, you know, there's two things I say about that.
One, that's what scares the bejeebies out of the Democrats and the liberals, right?
Because he is a bit unhinged in that.
Like, he'll go outside of the political norm and talk to anybody and, like, want to hear what they say.
And then he'll say, hey, you know, this person told me this, and it makes a whole lot of sense.
We should go do it.
That strikes fear in the establishment.
And two, going back in that vein, I talk to people who maybe don't have the greatest opinion of him, and they'll ask me that question, and I'll give them that answer, and they'll look at me like, really?
Tell him that.
And you can see the wheels turn.
I'm like, look, this is a man who will literally go out there and listen, okay?
I know, maybe you don't see it on TV.
Maybe it doesn't seem like it.
But I can tell you, there's a reason 72 million, no, what was the last one?
80 million people voted for him.
Right?
It's the reason that he packs the particular stadiums that he does.
It's the reason people gravitate to him.
You know, an amazing thing, too, is that I found out, you know, through the 2016 cycle and the 2020 election, one of the things that fascinated me when he came to Louisiana was the number of young people that were attracted to the rallies that he held.
And it was because I think that, you know, I think that right now Americans are searching
For some security to their liberty.
And they're looking for leaders out there that are going to stand up and say, you know what?
America is still going to be a place of freedom, a place of greatness, and a place of exceptionalism.
There's nothing wrong with being exceptional.
Well, I think that's really well said, buddy.
And I think, you know, you're going to do that in Louisiana.
Where can our viewers, where can they follow you?
Where can they see what's going on so they can follow this race?
Because again, as you sort of alluded to, and where I actually agree 100%, you know, what was perhaps the great awakening of COVID was that
You know, who your governor is matters a lot.
Their willingness to take on that stuff matters a lot.
In terms of your day-to-day life, that matters more than anything, whether it's towards your prosperity, freedoms, all those things that we hold dear.
Where can our viewers find you?
Where can they follow you?
Where can they learn about the race and see what's going on?
Because again, I think the governors are leading the charge in that stuff.
Real simple.
They just go to JeffLandry.com.
All of the information's there.
They can follow us on Facebook.
They can follow us on Instagram, Twitter.
Well, as much as Facebook will let it, right?
I think Twitter seems to be a little freer today.
Joe Biden may not be able to collude with them right now to censor you, but I have a feeling they're going to do it anyway, buddy.
But yeah, they can go to JeffLandry.com and follow us on all of the social media platforms.
Rumble, Truth Social, all of those.
We're on all of those platforms.
We'd love, if you're in Louisiana, we certainly want you to vote, we want you to join our team, we want you to get involved, because this race is really not about me, it's about you if you're living in Louisiana, and if you're from outside Louisiana, hey, look, join us, follow us, like us, you know?
Join our team.
It all matters, man.
Well, thank you for everything that you're doing, Jeff.
But more importantly, thank you for the friendship.
I look forward to seeing you soon.
As we were discussing sort of before we started chatting, you know, maybe we got to go do a little redfish camp.
I have to get my Louisiana fix.
I haven't had it since, like, I guess it was September, October when I was at your deer camp.
So I look forward to getting back there, buddy.
Well, look, hopefully we'll get to do it.
We'll get a little bit of relaxation time and hope everybody is safe and enjoying the summer.
Sounds good, Ben.
Have a good one.
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