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June 2, 2023 - Triggered - Donald Trump Jr

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DeSantis Botches Rollout, Plus Live with Sen Tommy Tuberville | TRIGGERED Ep. 36

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	Good evening guys.
	Welcome back to another huge with a capital Y episode of Triggered.
	Thank you for tuning in.
	Tonight we're talking with Republican Senator Tommy Tuberville of Alabama.
	Senator Tuberville doesn't have the typical
	Career politician background.
	Certainly not of most senators.
	He was a very successful college football coach.
	The head coach of one of the major programs like Auburn and Ole Miss.
	And I have a feeling this one's going to be interesting.
	We can talk about some of the great rivalries in sports.
	The difference between rivalries in pro sports and college.
	A lot of stuff.
	As well as strategy.
	Both
	On the gridiron, in life, in politics, and how that all works.
	But before we get into that, let's get on what's on everyone's mind.
	The hashtag disaster of the Ron DeStablishment announcement yesterday.
	DeSantis didn't launch with a rally of fans, maybe because
	As evidenced by, even when you listen to him, he couldn't find enough people to be interested in it.
	Instead, he decided to announce on Twitter Spaces before he headed to a cocktail party with his donors at the Four Seasons in Miami.
	Here's how his big announcement kicked off.
	Check it out and listen for yourself.
	Now it's quiet.
	As I said, it was a hashtag disaster.
	And it took a long time for Elon Musk to apparently figure out how and what was going on.
	And it took two charismatic billionaires like Elon Musk and David Sachs to carry DeSantis through this, where he basically read like an op-ed about what he was going to do.
	But I think what I noticed most about this whole failure to launch was
	Without the visuals, because it's an audio-only program, you realize just how sort of nasally and effeminate his voice is.
	I, like, I don't know.
	I don't know if I'm going to be able to get rid of that thought now that it's been sort of isolated.
	You know, when you're on TV and you got visuals, you get a little distracted.
	But go back and listen for yourselves.
	I don't mind sending you there because it was that bad.
	This failure launch is probably a sign of things to come.
	DeSantis isn't going to regret running.
	A poll came out today from Iowa showing President Trump, might add, up by 42 points.
	That's a state we haven't even
	Historically, it's always been a little bit of an issue, right?
	Even for Trump.
	It's a little bit more establishment-y at times, I guess, and we're gonna see more of this, especially when we find out the truth as opposed to what's sort of been put on there by the swarm of sort of paid online DeSantis influencers.
	You see what they're doing, and once you actually put out the facts,
	I think a different image is going to emerge.
	Ron wants people to think that he's like Trump Lite or something like that.
	He's not either on policy grounds or personality.
	Trump has the charisma of a mortician and the energy that makes Jeb Bush look like an Olympian.
	The policies of a D.C.
	swamp rat, because we've seen the flip-flops, right?
	You can pretend you're MAGA, but Ron still can't answer what he'd do on Ukraine.
	Just watch.
	Watch him dodge last night with Trey Gowdy in Fox's now-failing 8 p.m.
	hour.
	You wore the uniform.
	If you are elected president, you may be the first one in a while to have worn the uniform.
	How would you address the ongoing war in Eastern Europe between Russia and Ukraine on day one of Aranda Sanchez's presidency?
	Well first, I think what we need to do as a veteran is recognize that our military has become politicized.
	You talk about gender ideology, you talk about things like global warming that they're somehow concerned, and that's not the military that I served in.
	We need to return our military to focusing on commitment, focusing on the core values and the core mission.
	That would be something that I...
	Hey guys, he gets asked about Ukraine and he starts talking about gender ideology.
	I mean, listen, it's an important issue, okay?
	I get it.
	It's easy to dunk on gender ideology in the military.
	That's an easy one for social media.
	Answering the question without upsetting your donors, without upsetting, you know, Mitch McConnell and those guys who would love to have yet another never-ending war, this time with a nuclear-capable power, not dudes that live in caves.
	It's a problem.
	If the same question were asked of my father, as it was in a CNN, so not exactly a friendly hometown crowd town hall, about a week ago, he'd answer, I'd get to work to secure a peace deal to stop the unnecessary deaths.
	And Ron tried doing that, but his donors didn't like it.
	Remember that a couple of weeks ago when he took the Trump-lite approach and sort of almost tried saying what Donald Trump's been saying and then
	Ooh, the donors, the establishment, the people who are really creating this image, they didn't like that one little bit and so they cut it off.
	And that peace deal is necessary, folks.
	We're running full speed into a nuclear war just today.
	Today!
	Russia announced that it's deploying
	Tactical nuclear weapons in Belarus.
	This is the first time tactical nuclear weapons will be stored outside of Russia since the end of the Cold War.
	Hey guys, what's the worst that could happen?
	I mean, we've been fighting not just a proxy war, but a boots-on-the-ground war against the world's largest nuclear power by volume of nuclear warheads.
	A despot?
	A dictator like Putin?
	Sure, guys.
	Keep pushing him so you can get your jobs at Raytheon and the board seats that are required.
	But, you know, the problem with those is you gotta sell more missiles.
	This movement of nukes to Belarus, which borders Ukraine, comes a day after a report revealed that Ukraine was behind a drone attack on the Kremlin in May.
	U.S.
	taxpayer money is the only reason the Ukrainian government exists.
	Our dollars, your hard-earned dollars, umpteen billion dollars, are going to perpetuate the violence and the death.
	And as long as we're sending billions in this proxy war and having a de facto war with Russia, it's never going to end.
	Okay?
	At this point, we're probably paying their salaries.
	We give them equipment.
	We're backstopping their pensions.
	We can't take care of our problems at home.
	God forbid we help Americans, our own veterans, suffering.
	We want to turn Ukraine effectively into either an American colony or a globalist colony, either way.
	It's just big ag land.
	That's how they're going to feed the world when the globalists take over, by controlling that.
	So when they're directly attacking Russia, we're party to that attack, folks.
	Russia keeps threatening to use nukes.
	So why exactly are we not putting an end to all of this?
	Seems odd, right?
	Think of all the crazy steps taken to try to reduce COVID deaths, right?
	Remember, they put sand in your skateboard parks, for God's sakes.
	But we move full speed towards nuclear war, which would end life as we know it.
	Just so we're clear, Russia has approximately 6,000 and change nuclear weapons.
	Doesn't take a lot of those to, let's just say, create a serious climate change problem.
	Not the one that they're pretending is going to end the world in 12 years.
	That will end it in about 12 milliseconds.
	OK?
	DeSantis is a phony.
	Republicans are becoming more and more aware of that every day.
	And by the way, most of these conservatives that are lined up behind Ron right now, well, guess what, folks?
	Look them up.
	They're all never Trumpers.
	They were all never Trumpers in 16.
	Sure, some of them put the MAGA hat on for a couple of seconds to get the obligatory photo or whatever to raise a couple bucks from a base and take advantage of them.
	They weren't MAGA then and they aren't MAGA now.
	And this definitely isn't the time to roll the dice on a rhino.
	There's too much at stake for the future of our country.
	But the Democrats right now are loving every second of it because they know that the billionaires backing DeSantis and the money spent there
	It's not going to help Ron win.
	It's going to help Republicans lose.
	So the Democrats are rejoicing as we spend all the money that we'd be spending to ramp up a ballot harvesting operation to take on the insanity of the left on a war.
	Where the establishment wants to take out America first.
	Nothing more.
	We'll get more into this later in the show, but first we have a few more examples in the news of the far-left lunacy destroying our country.
	Say, for example, you might have fond memories of going to baseball games as a kid, or maybe as an adult bringing your kids.
	There's supposed to be family-friendly events, great time,
	Good ol' American fun.
	But folks, that's not what the Los Angeles Dodgers think.
	Take a look at the group that they're inviting to an upcoming Pride Night.
	Check this out for yourself.
	Wow!
	Wow!
	Why are the Los Angeles Dodgers fine with a group that mocks, desecrates Jesus and Christianity?
	And speaking of anti-Christian hate, where's the manifesto from the Nashville Transshooter?
	We found out recently that the shooter went from the school to the attached cathedral and fired seven bullets into the stained-glass figure of Adam, the first man in the Bible.
	This is clearly an anti-Christian terror attack and yet we hear nothing about it.
	That's why the press swept it under the rug.
	It's not a hate crime if the target's a group the left also hates.
	Imagine for a second, imagine for a second this happened to say, I don't know,
	They were doing this about Muslims or any other religion.
	But sadly, folks, it's par for the course.
	It's not just baseball games.
	It's our own government.
	You can attack Christians.
	Who cares?
	It doesn't matter.
	Ooh, take them all out.
	You can desecrate Jesus at a professional sports game.
	And they don't care.
	And get this, the Media Research Center just found out that the Biden administration gave a grant to the University of Dayton, to the tune of about 40 million of your taxpayer dollars, to conduct a project that targeted groups such as the Christian Broadcast Network, Turning Point USA, and even Breitbart News.
	The reverse of that is unthinkable.
	Imagine they used that kind of money to go after, like, the clowns in Congress, like Adam Schiff, who spent months, if not years, lying to the American people.
	Or all of the leftist media, who tried cramming their garbage and their lies down our throats.
	There's no accountability for that.
	According to the Media Research Center, under the Trump administration, the Targeted Violence and Terrorism Prevention Grant program was used to prevent terrorism.
	But it was revamped under the Biden administration and renamed to provide funding to quote combat all forms of terrorism and targeted violence.
	I don't know, guys.
	I've spoken at a lot of turning point events.
	I've read a lot of Breitbart articles.
	I've never seen targeted violence other than perhaps from the leftists trying to protest it.
	But of course, instead of focusing on preventing actual violence and terrorism, the program is now being used to target conservatives.
	And it's costing you, again, around $40 million.
	And sadly, this is part of the same theme that we see from major corporations, who seem to be totally on board with the same sort of insanity.
	It never ends, folks, because have you been following what's going on now at Target?
	They unveiled their Pride Month merchandise, which
	Apparently included a tuck-friendly bathing suit, and using a brand that has a history of satanic-themed products.
	Think about this for a second, folks.
	This isn't even a joke.
	This is Target, one of the country's largest, if not the world's largest retailers, pushing satanic-themed projects.
	This designer says things like, Satan respects pronouns, and Satan loves you.
	Well, you know what?
	I bet they do, because it leads to the destruction of everything that is good and decent, the destruction of the nuclear family, and everything else the radical left wants to attack.
	What's the purpose of this?
	What does this have to do with Pride Month?
	Absolutely nothing.
	But the degeneracy never ends.
	Now,
	We do have some good news in that the backlash has been so strong that Target reportedly lost $9 billion in one week and called an emergency meeting over the LGBTQIA blah blah blah blah blah blah, you know.
	Can't remember all the acronyms.
	I don't think anyone even actually knows what they are.
	Merchandise.
	And in some stores, they're reallocating or relocating or, all right, moving and removing the merchandise.
	And I actually received a letter from a friend.
	I'm trying to keep it specifically as vague as possible because there'll be reprisals if you have people that are friends that work in these companies, right?
	If you're a leftist, you can do and say whatever you want.
	If you disagree with some of those things, you're out.
	So, this is from inside of Target corporate.
	The letter reads, and I quote, Hey Don, hope you're well.
	I'm not sure if I'll catch you before you go travel.
	I'm taking a week with my son.
	I figured I'd pass on a little behind the scenes from Target.
	I sent it to some other friends of yours as well.
	My spouse works on the corporate side of Target.
	He or she has several times noted how extremely woke the corporate structure is.
	So much so that while they have a zero-tolerance policy for bullying and safety, such that if her opinion makes anyone feel unsafe, she will be terminated immediately.
	If she doesn't outwardly tow the work line, she will be fired.
	Remember, tolerance is king.
	He continues, with the recent Pride line and Satanic themed closing lines being pulled after Bud Light, Backlash and others on the retail merchandise, people in corporate are crying foul informing peer support groups
	Because these leftist co-workers are so distraught that the corporate masters are bending to the dollar rather than continuing to push their satanic trans-themed garbage, they're having breakdowns in Zoom meetings.
	There have even been, quote, emotional support groups formed for people to help cope with the groomer line clothing being removed.
	We need to keep the pressure on.
	Don't let their executive leadership walk it off and whitewash the whole thing.
	It's affecting them.
	She's already looking for alternate employment.
	So you see, folks, the strategy is working, and we need to keep up the pressure.
	Don't let the Satanists win.
	I promise you, nothing good will come from that.
	Don't let these woke corporations get away with any more of this nonsense.
	And it's why I talk so much about Public Square, which I'm super psyched about.
	We had Michael Seifert, the CEO, on here a couple of weeks ago talking about that.
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	It's PublicSQ.com.
	Go check them out.
	They are a company in the parallel economy.
	They're a place where you can find people who share your values, support their businesses.
	Go shop there and shop with people who share your values.
	I invested in it myself because I believe so much in this mission to find freedom-loving businesses who support your values, just like the sponsors of this show.
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	They got like number three in the App Store on merchandise because people like you are looking at it.
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	We're moving the needle.
	You don't have to choose between what you believe and what you buy.
	You can actually vote with your dollars.
	All of us America First patriots are actually starting to win some of these battles.
	And we'll talk about winning battles a little bit more with Senator Tuberville in just a few seconds.
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	And with that, I want to bring in legendary coach and United States Senator Tommy Tuberville.
	Come on in here, Tommy.
	How are you?
	I'm doing well, man.
	I'm doing well.
	We have to do this a little informally.
	You had some rough weather getting in, and they're saying, uh, Tommy's getting off the plane.
	I'm saying, I know where the airport is, and that's a little bit long, but it's been a rough couple of days.
	Yeah, well, traveling, raising money.
	That's what you do now as a politician.
	Yeah, that's something different for me, but yeah, flying a lot.
	I lived in
	South Florida.
	I lived in Miami for 10 years, so I knew coming down here.
	Afternoon weather is always unpredictable.
	Yeah, especially this time of year.
	I feel like, you know, if you don't like the weather, wait five minutes.
	It usually changes.
	Although, there's been like three days of just non-stop, non-stop storms.
	It's a little bit, it's a little bit nuts.
	Oh, well, that's South Florida, but there's a lot of pluses that go along with the minuses.
	I love living down there, and obviously you do.
	It's a great place.
	Good people and, you know, conservatives, Republicans, a lot of Republicans, and thank goodness we have a state like this that still exists.
	We don't have many left.
	No, well, Alabama's certainly one of them.
	Talk about that a little bit.
	I mean, you're running a senator.
	Listen, part of the game, obviously, is fundraising.
	Because even in Alabama, even, I guess, a race you won by close to 30 points?
	Yeah, 25 points.
	25 points.
	I mean, about as big a blowout as you get in sort of, I'm going to call it national politics.
	Because even if it's a state senator seat, there's only 100 of those seats, and the Democrats spend big there.
	So even there, they raised a lot of money
	To fight against you, to try to damage you, to try to pull someone else over the line.
	So you even have to deal with that in Alabama.
	Oh, yeah.
	I beat a sitting congressman.
	I beat a former United States Attorney General and Senator, Jeff Sessions.
	And then I had to beat a sitting Senator, who was Doug Jones, who somehow won in Alabama.
	And he spent $10 million a month for three months.
	And I was about broke because I'd had to go through all those primaries.
	And we end up winning
	Pretty handily, but the people of Alabama, we're still conservative, still believe in God, we still believe in guns, we still believe in the Constitution, and that's what it's all about.
	We've got several states, you know, Georgia, where you would think, and Georgia's still conservative, I don't know what's going on over there, but it's a very conservative state, and then you have Tennessee, then you have Mississippi, but we're all about the same, and we just gotta get the right people to run and pull the trigger and get it done the next time around.
	Yeah, I mean, so you had that.
	You had a rough primary, and it makes the general a lot harder.
	I mean, it actually sounds sort of similar to what we're talking about right now, right?
	Where you have a sort of a Ron DeSantis coming in, you know, pretty significant deficit, but there's a lot of billionaire money that seems to control a little bit more there, right?
	I mean, you saw the flip-flop on Ukraine and all this stuff.
	What, you know, do you think that this sort of situation is sort of...
	I mean, are the Democrats just rejoicing that there's going to be hundreds of millions of dollars made by consultants and this to keep a race going like this?
	You know, I look at it as money we don't have for a general.
	We've got to create a ballot harvesting operation, right?
	If America was Alabama, I wouldn't worry about it.
	But in races where they're outspending us 10 to 1 already in some places across the country,
	I think as a strategist, and you certainly did that as a football coach, it seems like depleting our resources that way is sort of the Democrats' wet dream.
	Yeah.
	You know, I'm new to this business, and I've been watching it now for three or four years in House races, Senate races, and now the presidential race coming up.
	The Democrats raise money very easily.
	That wind blew.
	It is unbelievable how much money they have.
	They have three or four times the money we do as Republicans.
	But still, money doesn't win for you.
	You still have to have people, you still have to have the right ethics, the right morals.
	And most people that are still Americans that believe in the Constitution, they're going to vote the right way.
	And so, I like what President Trump's done.
	You know, he's more of a hands-on guy, retail politics.
	You go out and talk to people.
	Go to rallies.
	He went on CNN the other day.
	That's his polling, by the way.
	He hears it from the people directly.
	And I've told him that.
	He's not listening to the billionaire class, which is probably why they want to support others.
	The more people you shake hands with, that's a vote for every time you touch somebody.
	As a senator, that's fairly easy because it's statewide.
	I can't imagine it being a presidential race.
	This is going to be interesting.
	I hope we have more people get into the race as president.
	I told President Trump that.
	The more the better.
	We need a deep bench.
	There's not anybody out there that can really beat him.
	He'll beat himself if he loses, because he'll beat himself by not getting out and doing what he normally does, but he's going to do that.
	I mean, he's going to get out and politic.
	No one's ever accused him of being low energy.
	No!
	He loves doing it, and you know, everybody asks, well, what about Ron DeSantis?
	Well, we've got to find out, first of all, who he is, and we've got to find out, is the establishment funding him?
	Because if they are, and people find that out, it's done.
	It's over with.
	Well, I mean, I think we know some of that already.
	When you get sort of the Karl Rove, Paul Ryan endorsement, you start saying, probably not MAGA.
	Hey, let's see what happens, but probably not MAGA.
	I mean, there's a revolt amongst those guys.
	They want that power back.
	And that's what I've, you know, for me, I'm an outsider as well, right?
	I built buildings for a living before we got into the sort of, you know, the craziness of all of this.
	And that's what's sort of surprising.
	You saw, you know,
	Two weeks ago, with the firing of Tucker Carlson, some of your colleagues in the Senate saying, Republican colleagues, well, with Tucker gone, at least now we can fully support the war in Ukraine without backlash.
	But your constituency doesn't want it.
	And yet, off the record, you'll tell a liberal journalist that you're thrilled that Tucker Carlson's gone because you can literally go against the will of the people who put you in those positions.
	And I was like, isn't that everything Americans hate about politics?
	Well, deep down at the end of the day, Don, people want truth in this country.
	They're tired of being lied to.
	They are tired of being lied to.
	I've never seen like the deceit in the two years I've been in the Senate.
	Well, how about in the last two weeks?
	Between the Durham report, between...
	But we knew that was wrong anyway.
	We knew for two years.
	We did, but the media, the powers that control this, big tech, mainstream media, big social, they still pretended like it was real.
	I mean, there's still people out there on TV being like, Russia collusion was real.
	It clearly wasn't.
	But listen, you got into this because you believe in it.
	I started, instead of just shutting up and being a real estate guy, I got in it because I actually believe in it.
	I'm fighting for it.
	But, like, there's people that, you know, again, and I don't even fault them, like, they're living their American dream or trying to in the Joe Biden economy.
	They're struggling every day.
	They're consuming five minutes of news.
	If they're hearing that kind of disinformation or that nonsense, it's like,
	Well, you know, there's gotta be something to it.
	I mean, would I have... When I was a target of these guys, you know, in Russia, Russia, Russia, right?
	I did 50 hours of testimony for treason, a crime punishable by death, minor details.
	Like, I was like, well, there's gotta be something to it.
	Someone must have maybe infiltrated my email, or like, maybe I took a selfie with someone, and that's how I got sucked into it.
	Like, even I, as a target, couldn't have imagined that, like, the FBI was just lying.
	It is really scary.
	All of our institutions are compromised.
	All you have to do is look at it and listen just a little bit.
	You don't have to know a whole lot.
	I mean, just the average citizen out there can figure it out on their own if they just keep watching what's going on and then read the reports.
	In this Durham report, most of us knew what it was about and knew the endgame.
	But when you have the, and let me say this, and I've got friends in the FBI, and I've talked to a lot of them, and they said, listen, what happened with the FBI was back when Obama became president, he took the upper echelon of the FBI and inserted bureaucrats.
	He took out former FBI agents and put bureaucrats in.
	And they said, until we get FBI agents back in running the FBI, this is not going to happen.
	We're not going to have the same FBI we had years and years ago.
	CIA the same way.
	They've run their education system.
	You know, just look at anything that has to do with bureaucrats.
	We've got problems now, they're trying to get in the military.
	And man, if they've got a foot in the door on that, it just scares me.
	It scares me that they're going to do what they've done to the other institutions and do it to our military, because if they get that,
	Only thing left is the Supreme Court.
	That's the only thing that we have.
	Well, and they're talking about that every day, right?
	Every day.
	They're talking, hey, let's just flood the courts.
	We'll add 100 judges and we'll appoint them all.
	There's nothing off the table, right?
	They have disastrous recruitment in the military right now.
	You know, no one wants to go serve a military where they're pushing, you know, being pushed by, you know, trans or, like, drag influencers.
	Like, it's just not the people who would go fight and die for a country, probably not into that.
	Like, you know, it doesn't take a marketing genius or a military, you know, it doesn't exactly take George Patton to figure that out, and yet it doesn't stop them from doing it.
	No, and they do it every day.
	I'm on the Armed Services Committee and there's not a hearing that doesn't go by that some of us don't ask a general or admiral, now you have these books in your library on some of our aircraft carriers, or you're doing poems on aircraft carriers, or
	You're building more transgender restrooms than you are for coverings for $100 million airplanes.
	What in the world is going on here?
	And it's, again, it's a total transition of our country where we're being turned inside out.
	And you and I both know, we've grown up in the best country on the face of the earth.
	There will never be one that's as good as what we've got.
	As pissed off as I am about what's going on right now, there's nowhere else I think is better.
	We're the leader of freedom.
	We're the leader of all those things.
	Although, all the things we believe in, they're on the table.
	To the Democrats, they're all negotiable for their agenda.
	And that, again, sort of has to wake everyone up.
	Well, this group wants us to be like Europe in a lot of ways.
	Socialist, a dictator as a president, like some of the presidents that are in Europe.
	I was on a plane the other day, traveling.
	I forget where I was at.
	I travel so much.
	But this lady was sitting next to me.
	I said, where are you from?
	She said, I'm from Canada.
	And we started talking.
	And she says, what are y'all trying to do with your country?
	And I said, what are you talking about?
	She says, we have a dictator in Canada.
	We have no freedoms left.
	We used to be a great place to live.
	It is awful as I speak.
	And y'all are doing the same thing to your country that we did to ours.
	You need to stop it.
	She didn't know I was a senator, so I didn't speak up at that point.
	But I told her, I said, yes ma'am, I do believe and understand what you're saying.
	And she's exactly right.
	That we are, they are turning the Democrats and the progressives are just turning us inside out into something that, number one, we don't want to be.
	Number two, it won't last long.
	But once they get it to that point, will we ever get it back?
	Well, I think the answer is no.
	I mean, you know, again, they've controlled these institutions so well.
	I think it's been going on for much longer than we probably realized.
	Probably decades.
	It just took like a Donald Trump or, you know, a little bit of a revolt of the actual people fighting back against the sort of uniparty establishment to actually bring out the true, you know, they're saying the quiet parts out loud now.
	They were just doing them before and I think that was really important.
	It's sort of like when with the
	With the school lockdowns, right?
	You know, Randy Weingarten and the teachers union.
	We don't want it!
	It was actually the greatest thing to happen.
	Our kids, it was a disaster for them.
	It was a disaster for their reading, for their science, for their math scores, for everything.
	But parents finally figured out what was going on.
	Because they're walking by and their kids are learning about everything other than math, anything other than the things that are actually important to an education.
	And
	So it was like the greatest sort of self-own of all time.
	They exposed themselves.
	You know, so much of what you're talking about with Canada, I agree.
	I mean, I would have thought, you know, Canada, the UK, Australia, maybe New Zealand, you know, us.
	We're like the glass fashions of freedom in the world.
	And it's like, you look at those places and it's like, oh my God, like we're so much further fallen than we could ever believe.
	We got to continue to fight for that.
	And you brought up the key.
	One of the reasons I ran for this job, because I did it for 40 years after I got out of
	We're going to send you to the swamp!
	Just get out!
	Because I saw for the last 15 years of where education was going.
	Because I went into high schools in every state.
	I talked to counselors, principals, teachers.
	I saw the transcripts and what these kids were taking and I'd ask, what is this?
	And how are you going to pay back your college loan with that degree?
	And they don't teach reading and math.
	In China right now, in 6th, 7th grade, they're learning calculus and algebra 2 and all these things.
	We're teaching social justice, diversity.
	We don't teach math.
	We don't teach kids to learn.
	38, what, 28 schools in Baltimore
	A few months ago, last year's graduating class, 28 schools in Baltimore, zero proficiency in math in any graduate.
	Zero guys!
	Not a single graduate had proficiency in reading or math.
	This country was built on the backs of educated young men and women.
	That got an education and went out and got a job and helped this country become better.
	And you can't make this country, it's like being an offensive lineman in football.
	Unless you know the fundamentals and techniques, I don't care how good an athlete you are, if you don't have the fundamentals and techniques, you can't play the position.
	You can't play the position in life if you can't read and write and do math.
	You can't do it.
	You're going to have to live off the government.
	I'll be dang.
	Hey, the Democrats have a solution for you, sir.
	Oh yeah, exactly right.
	We'll take care of you forever.
	You can just be an idiot and do nothing.
	So, that's an interesting one.
	It's an angle I actually never thought, but yeah, I mean, you've been immersed in education.
	Forever.
	You know, coaching, but like it's the same thing and you see the students.
	Talk about, you know, when you got into it,
	Versus more recently.
	Do you see those changes manifest themselves throughout?
	Oh, big time.
	You could bring them in.
	And what I would do, as a football coach, you sign 25 new players a year.
	And you bring them in, and before you put them in a tough college class, whether it's English or math or whatever, I found out the hard way, make sure that they're proficient in that before you put them in that class.
	Because if they flunk a couple classes, it's going to be hard to catch up.
	You're going to lose your eligibility.
	So I'd bring them in.
	Don, but the last 10 or 15 years, you would have very few young men and women who had 3.5, even some 4 point GPAs that were not proficient in reading.
	They couldn't read 12th grade.
	They were 6th grade, 9th grade reading level.
	It's amazing.
	And some of them couldn't read at all, but they got a degree in high school.
	They just passed them on.
	I spent some of my own money trying to put them in reading classes, trying to get them to a point.
	And then we budgeted money for tutors.
	And we get them to a level at a certain point, whether it's math or English, science, and then we could put them in a college preparatory class, but it's gotten a lot worse.
	And again, it goes back to one thing.
	If you can't read, and if you can't write, you can't live in a country like this and not have somebody help you.
	If you're getting a 25, that's a failing grade!
	75%!
	It's lunacy, and yet we keep doing it because they control so much power.
	That notion of school choice or dollars following the student, I can't imagine anyone who actually understands the facts not being for that, and yet
	You know, that's the difference between the constituency and the powers that be that have that control, right?
	I imagine if you explained it and you took even in the inner cities and you explain to them what they could have for their children, who wouldn't want that?
	But that's not what they're getting, and they don't even know that that's an option.
	And when it is an option, they spend more money fighting the onslaught from the teachers union than they do actually being able to form the charter schools or whatever it may be.
	Well, the COVID really brought it out about how bad our schools are and how bad our teachers are in the inner city.
	Most of them in inner city.
	I don't know how they got degrees, to be honest with you.
	I don't know whether they can read and write.
	But they're the experts that want to make sure that parents have no say.
	How do you decide what to do with your children?
	They want to raise, they want less time to work, less time in school.
	It's just, we've ruined work ethic in this country.
	We don't work at it anymore.
	We push an easy life.
	And, you know, we all want it better for our kids.
	We do.
	You know, and that's the reason I worked hard all my life.
	I got one son that works for Goldman Sachs, and the other one works and working on a hypersonic missile.
	Both got degrees.
	But I didn't give them anything.
	You know, they had to earn it on their own.
	And I think a lot of people got to understand, make your kids earn what they're getting.
	You know, help them to a point, but you can help them too much.
	Yeah, listen, and again, I'm very self-aware.
	I understand I'm the son of a billionaire, but my parents were very much like that.
	My mom was, you know, she escaped communist Czechoslovakia.
	So, as blessed as we were, we were sort of spoiled differently.
	Great experiences and stuff like that, but it was never like bought off and just here's what it is.
	They always made us have summer jobs.
	And my dad was like, hey, if you're gonna build a building, you better learn how to dig the foundation.
	You're gonna do that for two summers.
	Exactly.
	You learn how to work.
	You learn how to make decisions and most people don't know.
	Most of these kids growing up don't know how to make a decision.
	They're addicted to their cell phone and social media.
	Relax!
	Don't go crazy!
	I may be guilty of that myself.
	They stay on it all the time.
	You're talking about 14-16 hours a day.
	You can't live a normal life like that.
	And we have a huge mental health problem in this country.
	Because of that.
	And it's not just because of that.
	You know, of course, the borders are open, and we've got drugs everywhere, and of course, we had a mental health problem beforehand, but we've never had an answer to it.
	Our answer to mental health is, if somebody has a problem, you put them in jail, and then after you can't keep them in there for a while, you kick them back out on the street and let them wander around.
	Or you just put them on whatever drugs Big Pharma's pushing that week, and, you know, let's just solve the problem because there's a pill for everything, right?
	Exactly and we've got to get control of mental health.
	I don't think we can make it as a country because the status quo for a while we were making progress and then all of a sudden a lot of things come in to effect and our kids are growing up as zombies in some areas.
	Bullying.
	It used to be, you know, you'd get bullied maybe at school or whatever.
	Now, they get bullied online.
	And it's a tough situation.
	But, again, there's no answer for it.
	And where I work in Washington, D.C., nobody wants to talk about it.
	They want to talk about the
	Everything can be done in 140 characters or less.
	It's a headline, not a substance.
	Was there a thing that sparked you saying, hey, I'm going to get into this wonderful world of politics?
	Listen, in Alabama, at least at Auburn, you walk on water.
	I think there's probably some Alabama fans that may disagree with that, given your record against Nick Saban.
	Was there something that was like, boom, I'm getting into this?
	One of the things that kind of pushed me over the edge of getting into politics was your dad.
	When he ran, being a non-politician, and I was coaching at the University of Cincinnati when he won.
	That was my last year, 2016.
	And he won, and I saw the things that he was trying to do.
	Actually pushing things that we needed pushing, but also fighting back against the establishment.
	I said, you know, I might want to do this.
	And he helped, obviously.
	And I didn't serve in the military.
	My dad died on active duty in the military, age 53.
	My brother was in the military.
	And so I barely missed Vietnam.
	And so, you know, I'm going to do this.
	This is going to be my service.
	And, you know, you can make a lot more money coaching, to be honest with you.
	A lot more money.
	Listen, like all things, literally, it's like a key of this show.
	It's like, hey, it was a lot easier and a lot more lucrative to be a real estate developer, but I also have five young kids and I've got to leave them a country that we recognize.
	Exactly.
	And, you know, again, that's on the table for these guys right now.
	Yeah, but I can't say that, and I tell people back in Alabama, they say, you like what you're doing?
	Not really.
	I don't like this, but I'm glad I'm there because I think I bring a little common sense and something from a different part of what a lot, most of them are lawyers that I work with.
	You have a few business people, most are lawyers, and I've learned a lot.
	You know, it just, it's,
	It's worse now that I got in, that I was watching and looking from the outside.
	Yeah, you can't imagine how bad it is until you're the guy actually taking those slings and arrows.
	That's why I'm like, you know, when everyone's like, well Trump should have done this, should have done that.
	Like, relax.
	Like, you don't understand, like, what you're up against.
	It's not, you know, you're not the Lord.
	You know, when you're in one of these positions, whether it's president or senator, you know, there's all sorts of people that can subvert you along the way, and we figured that out.
	Now we actually know who those people are.
	I think that's why they hate Trump this time around even more, because that's the true threat to those little fiefdoms that they've been able to create for, you know, unelected bureaucrats, essentially.
	Well, since I've been there, I've looked at it, and you know, the Democrats, they stay more on attack and resentment politics, meaning that they want every individual group to fight each other.
	It's like taking a hornet's nest and just shaking it up.
	You know, everybody's always fighting each other.
	There's nothing easy about it, and nothing's getting done.
	What'd your dad do?
	He didn't really get into the policy that much.
	What he did, he went after the establishment and politicians that weren't doing their job.
	And he called them out.
	And my gosh, you're talking about stirring up a nest.
	You know as well as I do.
	And so, that was a difference.
	And that's what he has done and did as president.
	Like nobody else has done.
	He called everybody out.
	He called the media out.
	Fake news and all that.
	He's exactly right.
	The things I see in Washington, D.C.
	is absolutely amazing.
	It's full of, you know, bureaucrats.
	It's full of people that live off the federal government.
	Listen, it's a cutthroat business, but so is sports, certainly at your level.
	Talk about that.
	Talk about the similarities.
	What are the similarities and perhaps what are the differences?
	Well, I mean, you've got a common goal, obviously, to win.
	In college football, you recruit and you get people on your side, and you try to win on a Saturday.
	The thing about government, you try to win, but it's slow motion.
	You don't play every Saturday.
	You know, there's not a game every Saturday.
	You might have a game every three or four months, and you're trying to get enough people on your side to vote your way, you know, to pass something.
	They have a much bigger cheerleading squad with the mainstream media and big tech.
	Well, the media is one of our big problems.
	I mean, if the media was down the line, balanced, and they held Republicans to the fire and the Democrats, and they just called it the way they saw it, we would have a country that would be unbelievable.
	For some reason, I don't know what happened, over the years, years, and even before your time, they started moving to one side, and it's just, it's not bipartisan, it's all partisan.
	I come off the Senate floor, and you know, I can see the ones, and they're coming to you asking the questions, some I'll talk to, some I won't, because I know that they're going to take your words and mix it up and make you look like that.
	Meanwhile, your colleague John Fetterman,
	He's a brilliant!
	He's a brilliant mind.
	He's a great orator.
	It's a little bit of a double standard, right?
	You know, I like John.
	He took my old office the last few weeks.
	I moved to another office.
	He took my office and, you know, he come in and he's obviously had problems.
	He's had health problems and I can't imagine
	I was healthy and I struggled doing it.
	Going through a campaign and going through all the things you have to go through and he's really struggled.
	Well, I wish him the best, and I talk to him every day, but he struggles.
	He understands that.
	He's had health problems, and, you know, he wanted to do it, and he stayed with it, and so he's going to have to make the best of it.
	I'm curious about that one, because it feels like he was sort of pushed into it, right?
	The Democrats knew about a lot of the health stuff and the stroke beforehand, and they just assumed maybe he was the guy that they could get to win, and then it's like, you know, he missed a couple months of work, and then it was...
	And again, I understand private relationships.
	I don't ever want to broach those, but it doesn't feel to me like he really wants it.
	It's like, oh crap, he's there.
	Just go vote, rubber stamp the Democrat policy, and go on.
	I have a hard time communicating, because you have to communicate with so many people every day.
	Then you have to give speeches, and you have to go to hearings and ask questions, and he's on the Ag Committee with me.
	He's not on any other committees, but you've got to be prepared, and of course,
	When he first got there, he's kind of like me.
	He didn't realize what you're getting into.
	And once you get into it, then he kind of got stressed out.
	And, of course, he goes in the hospital for a couple months.
	And now he's back.
	But, you know, you've got to be 100%.
	We'll watch and see.
	I hope he gets better.
	It's a high-level game.
	That's the problem.
	It's a high-level game, but there's also real stakes.
	Not that there's not in football, but like, you know, these could be, as you, you know, Russia's moving tactical nuclear weapons into Belarus today.
	I mean, you guys are being issued satellite phones.
	I don't want to know what they're for, but I can only imagine.
	That's scary stuff.
	And if people aren't functioning 100%, you know, if your quarterback's at 90%,
	It's game-changing.
	That would be, you know, double digits in a point spread change if people knew that, right?
	The bookies would alter that.
	But when we're talking about life and death, when we're talking about trillion-dollar decisions, when we're talking about decisions that our children and grandchildren could be beholden to, whether it's financially or otherwise, you've got to be on.
	Yeah, oh yeah.
	And I get up every morning at 5 o'clock and I read for a couple hours.
	I read stuff where I keep up with, I'm not talking about news, I'm talking about articles about whether it's Ukraine, it's what's come out of Russia, what they're doing in Iran.
	And football had offense, defense, and kicking game.
	Here, you've got everything.
	And you've got to keep up with it.
	And so, that's the reason I'm saying it's hard to be compromised and be 100%.
	And you've got to be on your toes, I'm going to tell you.
	And then you've got the mainstream media out there that's going to attack you.
	They want to attack you every day.
	You know, I've got holes on all these generals and admirals right now.
	And they're all over me about this.
	Pass the law.
	Bring it over.
	The only reason I held it was because they're dictating from the Pentagon.
	Don't do that.
	Hey, they elected us to Congress.
	Let's vote on it.
	Pass it.
	You can have your admirals and generals.
	But do not go overhead.
	And that's what's happening right now, Don.
	The White House and the Pentagon, they're doing legislation themselves.
	And if they're going to do that, we might as well lock the door and go home.
	Yeah, they're totally bypassing Congress.
	I mean, we had a retired colonel on here a week ago talking about exactly that.
	There's more four-star generals now when we're not really at war versus when we had World War II.
	Let's just say slightly different.
	Even if we've been at war for 20 years, it's a different war.
	And yet, you know, the results don't really seem to be in line and doesn't stop the bureaucracy from expanding or, you know, more generals.
	And no one really retires and everyone gets the reward to be a general.
	And if you're trans, you probably become a general or an admiral real quickly, too.
	And it never seems to end.
	And so I actually love that you're holding them up because
	We have to.
	We have to put checks.
	Our whole system is based on checks and balances, and yet it seems like if you're a Democrat, you can totally bypass all of that.
	You can get it in.
	The bureaucrats control everything, and they're de facto running the government while being unelected officials.
	Exactly.
	And you were saying about generals.
	In World War II, there was one for every 6,000 service members.
	Now there's one for every 1,500.
	We've got too many.
	They've got to figure that out in the Pentagon.
	Newt Gingrich always talks about taking the Pentagon and just make it three sides instead of, what, five?
	You know, we've got way too many people over there.
	In hearings, in armed services hearings all the time, I ask, whether it's Secretary Austin or Milley, I say, listen, you know, we're not spending our money on building weapons.
	We're either doing it... They're worried about white rage or something.
	I never even heard of it, but apparently it's a big thing.
	We're supposed to have a killing machine.
	And you hate to say that, but that's what the military is.
	They've got to be afraid of us, but they don't want that.
	They want to make sure that everybody understands they've got total control and they've got people in place that are going to teach the things that they want to teach.
	It's really sad, but we've got to have a good military.
	In my lifetime, and yours, this is today, we have the most dangerous world that any of us have ever lived in.
	Of course!
	Like, listen, we're talking about nukes, like, casually these days.
	Iran, they've almost got a nuke, okay?
	They've almost got it.
	Once they get it, what are they going to do with it?
	Then you've got Israel sitting around waiting, and they're not going to sit back.
	No, of course not.
	They're not going to sit back, and then, of course, you've got Ukraine.
	Well, and it's not like it's... I mean, their entire existence
	Has been threatened by Iran daily.
	The Ayatollah, you know, he still has his Twitter account when they ban Trump and stuff like that, but he can literally say they're gonna wipe him off the face of the earth.
	It's like, wow, that's different.
	That's, you know, that's okay.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's the double standard that we deal with every day.
	We don't need any more wars.
	No, I agree.
	And, of course, we're funneling all this money.
	I haven't voted for one dime for Ukraine.
	Nor should you.
	But I'm for Ukraine, because I'm for Ukraine winning, but we can't continue to do it.
	We can't afford it.
	People don't understand we can't afford it.
	The problem is this.
	As long as we're funneling money to them, as long as we're giving $130
	Billion?
	I mean, that's a lot of money.
	That's a lot of money.
	Beyond that, the Pentagon lost $220 billion.
	Minor details, right?
	I'm sure most of that's going there, or de facto going to our military to send it over there.
	So you could be at half a trillion dollars in this proxy war with Russia.
	But as long as that money's flowing,
	All the corrupt people are getting rich.
	There's no incentive to actually stop fighting the war.
	We're fighting that war for them with our equipment, we're spending our money, and no one's coming to the table as long as they're, hey, there's more weapons and we'll probably take some money on the side, and everyone's getting rich who's making decisions, while people are dying in the streets, needlessly.
	We hadn't won a war in a long time.
	I don't know why we'd want to get in another one.
	Think about it.
	Vietnam, we ran.
	Iraq, it wasn't a war.
	I mean, they didn't have an army to really fight and we just marched through them and we turned around and gave it back to them for some unknown reason instead of taking our oil and paid ourselves back in terms of what we put into that.
	Of course, Afghanistan, we
	Our military didn't run.
	Our politicians ran.
	And that was the worst debacle I've seen.
	And that was when I first got to the Senate.
	And, you know, our military people, true military people, were embarrassed at what the White House did.
	Of course they were.
	They had to be.
	I mean, I know people there.
	Like, again, hey, we can do the hyperbole about Democrats.
	Like, for me, it was one of the maybe only times as an American I was embarrassed.
	You know, I picked up my son.
	I tell the story all the time.
	I picked up my son from school.
	It was that week.
	We were doing like a father-son dinner, and he was nine.
	I was like, Dad, why would we leave them 86 billion dollars worth of equipment?
	I don't understand.
	I was like, I don't either.
	I didn't know how to even explain it to him because it's so ridiculous.
	He thought like I must
	Be withholding something.
	Dad, why would we take out our military before we took out the civilians?
	Why did we leave them?
	He didn't know what a biometric scanner was, right?
	But he goes, why did we leave them the machines that they could figure out who was helping us for 20 years?
	It seems like they would probably kill those people.
	I was like,
	A nine-year-old!
	A nine-year-old got it!
	But our generals wanted to worry about white rage, and Joe Biden wanted to take credit by accelerating it into the fighting season, so he could say he did it faster than Trump.
	No one was advocating for the endless wars, and I think the American populace, frankly, until Ukraine became the new religion of the left,
	Well, one thing I will say, and standing up for a few of the generals that I've gotten to know pretty well after investigating, you know, Afghanistan, the guy that pulled us out was Joe Biden.
	He said we don't need to do it.
	But he said we're leaving.
	We're out.
	It wasn't a very good plan.
	You know, when you do it on a whim... Yeah, well, he knew because he was just going to get covered in the headlines, and they were going to say, oh, he did it faster, he's better than Trump.
	Again, Trump wanted to get out, too.
	But there's a way to do it, and there's a way not to do it, and Joe Biden demonstrated the way not to do it.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Well, I want to ask a little bit about, you know, you think about some of the great rivalries in sports, you know what I mean?
	Talk about, you know, Alabama versus Auburn in that, because I mean, I think of that as sort of like a, you know, Army-Navy, Texas-OU, you know, Yankees-Red Sox, you know, for those who, you know,
	Again, some of these rivalries tend to be more regional and everyone's rivalry is the biggest, but talk a little bit about the Alabama-Auburn rivalry.
	Well, fortunately I was coached in a lot of big rival games.
	My first one was the Catholics vs. Convicts when I was at the University of Miami and coached with Jimmy Johnson.
	We went to South Bend and they called it the Catholics vs. and what a game that was.
	And then I was involved in the Texas-Texas A&M game.
	I was at A&M as an assistant.
	Then I was in the Egg Bowl with Mississippi State and Ole Miss.
	You know, that's big for that state.
	That's a big one.
	But let me tell you something.
	The Auburn-Alabama game, it's life or death.
	Hey, they will talk about football, college, that game, before they'll talk about hunting and fishing, and you know how important that is in that state.
	It's a big deal in Alabama, yeah.
	And you can't ride the fence in that state.
	You know, you're either one or the other, and if you don't pick a side, then you'll be ridiculed, but it was a fun game.
	It was hard for a coach.
	When I coached it, it was hard because I wanted to get it over with because you felt the weight of every alumni person or football player that ever played at Auburn, you know, for that game, and you wanted to win it for them, not for you, not for your football team, and so
	That's what made it so tough.
	And in the same way, now Nick, I'm going to tell you, he's turned the impossible of what he's done.
	Not just winning the Iron Bowl, but also winning national championships.
	It's just unbelievable what he's done.
	But there's great football players in the South, in Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Tennessee, Florida.
	There's a lot of great athletes.
	And if you just look at the NFL rosters, most of them come from those five or six states.
	So, talk about Saban.
	I mean, is he the greatest of all time?
	You actually have a winning record against him.
	Yeah.
	Which I think not a lot of people can boast, and certainly not a lot of people in what would be a big rivalry.
	No, but he's a good friend.
	We play a lot of golf together.
	I don't know how and why he's still doing it.
	He's made a lot of money.
	He's in the Mercedes business, the John Deere dealership business.
	But he doesn't hunt and fish.
	He plays golf.
	He goes out on the boat.
	He just went on a three or four week trip with his wife to Italy and France.
	I know he was miserable, you know, because he's the type of wording about what's going on back home.
	But he's really good.
	And to accomplish what he's done is just absolutely amazing.
	So, you know, politics in Alabama, right?
	Obviously, Auburn's loved.
	But, like, half the state also hates that.
	Was that a consideration?
	I mean, getting into the game?
	Because, again, you can be loved, but you're also the guy that competed against, you know, teams that... Again, I saw it.
	I've spent more time in, sort of, Texas.
	I've been to Texas OU a bunch of times.
	I mean, I watch grown men just crying.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know what I mean?
	Literally, just crying.
	And, you know, I came from, you know...
	New England went to an Ivy League school.
	It wasn't the same, so I didn't understand football culture until I sort of got out and started hanging out with guys in the South and, you know, where it is, to your point, you know, practically life and death to these guys.
	Oh yeah.
	My buddy from Texas, big Republican involved in the game, and he's just, he goes, Texas OU weekend for him was the culmination of Easter, Christmas, Thanksgiving, his birthday, and every other major holiday rolled up into one special weekend.
	And I'm like,
	I don't know what you're talking about, but it was.
	How was that as you got into politics?
	Was there an issue that you were the rival coach of someone's beloved team?
	When I sat down to run for this job, being at Auburn, still living at Auburn, my wife and I sat down and talked about it.
	She says, how are you going to get the Alabama people to vote for you?
	Because it's basically 60-40, okay?
	Yeah.
	And so you're going to have over 50% of the vote.
	I said, yeah.
	So I had me a little strategy when I, of course, for two years I campaigned.
	I went to every small town, went to Cracker Barrels, every Waffle House, you know, talking to Alabama, Auburn people.
	And basically told them, why would I vote for you, coach?
	I'm an Alabama fan.
	You know, you beat us six in a row and you'd stick a thumb in her face and all that.
	And I said, well, listen, if it wasn't for me, you wouldn't have Nick.
	I ran the rest of them off.
	I got them fired.
	It kind of resonated.
	Everybody kind of laughed about it, you know?
	But it's true.
	I went through 5 coaches in 10 years when I was at Auburn.
	Think about that.
	Now Nick's been there throughout 13.
	I went through 5 in 10 years.
	And he was the 5th one.
	So they lose to you twice and it's over.
	It doesn't matter.
	They could have a winning record otherwise.
	But if they lose to Auburn, it's a problem at Alabama.
	Doesn't matter.
	But it's what keeps life going in the state of Alabama is that game.
	And of course, football.
	Now, basketball is big.
	Baseball is big.
	All sports are big.
	If we don't allow this transgender movement to ruin women's sports, women's sports are getting bigger.
	Talk about that.
	I went to Penn, the home of Leah Thomas.
	It's been going on for a little while before, but that was the first big one.
	You can literally have an exact tie with a woman.
	It's like, well, we're giving it to the dude.
	Sorry, my producers are laughing, but it's true.
	Exact tie with Riley Gaines.
	It's like, well, we're giving it to that one because there's press around it.
	And they're like, well, why would the tie go to the biological male who became a woman, at least in his own mind, a few weeks ago, rather than the woman?
	I mean, talk about what that is.
	Because I sit there.
	I have a daughter that's a great athlete.
	She's a great golfer.
	And I know the time it takes, the dedication, the perseverance to be the best, and yet,
	Against men her age, it's just different.
	There's a biological advantage.
	There's physical advantages.
	There's strength.
	I mean, they can erase all of that in academia.
	You know, what I want to know, like, where are the soccer moms?
	Well, they're the ones that are going to have to change it.
	And this is one topic that has really made me mad over the last two or three months of we're letting this happen because it's a small part of our country that's transgender.
	And listen, I don't care what you, this country lets you be whatever you want.
	Be who you want.
	But for you to be able to compete, say I want to compete against girls or women in a sport where you are
	Definitely.
	30, 40, 50% bigger, faster, and stronger.
	Your daughter, what, 15, playing golf?
	If she plays against Bubba Watson's son in a few years, she's not going to beat him.
	Because he's going to hit it 325 yards, and she's going to hit it 280.
	She's hitting 280 now.
	She's like LPGA Tour length average, basically, already.
	So she's exceptional for what it is, and who knows what happens with it.
	It's unfair.
	Yeah, it's unfair.
	You can't do it.
	At Auburn, I'm sure you dealt with the entire athletic department.
	Is there a woman from any one of the other sports that could have gone?
	And sat on the offensive line while you were coaching there and over-performed.
	Or even hung in there.
	No.
	No, it's not going to happen.
	It's just 350 pounds.
	You're not comparing apples to apples.
	Of course you're not.
	I tell people this.
	It's unfair, but it's also unsafe.
	I mean, when you're competing against bigger, better athletes, we saw a volleyball game, you know, where the kid gets hit in the face with a volleyball.
	Well, there's the MMA, the trans-MMA guy that knocked out all these women and fractured their skull.
	There's, you know, the weightlifting, I guess no one's getting hurt on the other side, but like...
	It's insane.
	Of course, you look at the records of the top men and the top women, and let's just say there's a large discrepancy, and yet it continues.
	Again, the moms are what surprises me the most, because I know how much effort they put in.
	Often times, and the dads, but like, it really feels like it, because it really only affects women, right?
	There's no women getting into men's sports that are dominating and costing young men their scholarships, or whatever it may be.
	It's only going the one way, which probably tells you everything you need to know, and yet it doesn't seem to matter.
	But the fact that there's so much silence, you know, why are they afraid to take on that issue?
	They're afraid to be called out.
	I've had a lot of them tell me, well, I'm not going to let my daughters play sports.
	I said, that's exactly opposite of what you don't want to do.
	You want to fight for this.
	And a lot of people don't know how to fight for what's right because they're afraid they'll be called out, be called names, ridiculed because, oh, you're against this certain group.
	That's not what this country is about.
	It's about being fair.
	And there's no fairness.
	One of the few things that Washington, D.C.
	has done right in the last 50 years is made a law called Title IX.
	We're good to go.
	Basketball doesn't make any, baseball doesn't make, football pays for every athletic sport.
	And now that transgender is coming along, and fine, let them have their own group to compete, but don't let them compete against women because what's going to happen is these young girls coming up aren't going to play and it's going to be devastating to women's sports.
	Yeah, well hopefully we push back on that.
	But I think also, how did sports actually get so politicized, right?
	You see that in the NBA and the NFL and my intro talking about, you know, the Dodgers are hosting sort of this blasphemous group with the, you know, crucifix made of dildos.
	How did that happen?
	How were they able to get a hold of that?
	Because it doesn't feel like
	Certainly not in Alabama, but it doesn't feel like the fan base is even accepting of some of this stuff, or at least would be 50-50, and yet it doesn't matter.
	They're happy to throw that in the face of all of it and just go full woke.
	Well, it's all about money.
	It's all about whether you're commissioner of a league, or you're an athletic director, or you run ESPN.
	Yeah, well you worked with ESPN.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, they feel, they're more political to me than CNN.
	Sure they are.
	Well, they're owned by Disney and ABC, and they're very political.
	I worked with a group for two years.
	I worked with about 45 people.
	We traveled everywhere together.
	I was one of the announcers of the games, and I was on the short end of the stick when it came to being conservative.
	It is what it is, because most of them come from the Northeast, the people up there.
	No, it's a lot of politics in sports.
	And, you know, the Kaepernick deal of taking an E on the national anthem really got it stirred up.
	And I think people saw that if you start something like that, you can accelerate politics and get people talking about it.
	I think for some of them, it could also sort of accelerate the career, right?
	They become the martyr.
	Kaepernick made money deals with athletic companies, you know, let's call it
	He was a great athlete, I'm sure, but he was a journeyman quarterback, certainly for the NFL, right?
	I mean, he wasn't outstanding by any metric, and yet he became one of the most talked about NFL players.
	And probably, you know, I don't know if he sold a lot of jerseys or sold no jerseys, but he certainly got the financial deals that no one else with his stats would have ever gotten.
	Did it push that?
	Did you see that in your players, too?
	I mean, was there sort of that revolt against the flag, against the anthem, or did that not really exist?
	Did that really come once they got into the pay world?
	No, yeah, you didn't see that because, like you said, it's about money.
	Usually politics is about money, and so you didn't really have that.
	It's going to degrade how competitive it is because you're going to have just a few people that's going to have the money to get the best players.
	Yeah, talk about that.
	I mean, what does that do to your ability to recruit, say, even at a big school like Auburn versus Alabama where now they've got a bunch of national champions and like, you know, it's the feeder program to the NFL, right?
	Between that and Georgia or whatever it may be.
	Does it make that disparity grow a lot further where there's two or three teams that are just going to be the only ones that can be dominant and that's it?
	Well, you know, you're going to have several teams in the big leagues in college that's going to be able to make it.
	The problem is you've got 400 other division two teams.
	If they get a good player, they're going to take money and go to one of the better teams.
	And so you're not going to be able to build a team.
	It's going to take away from
	A lot of the smaller schools, 1AA schools as we used to call them, Joe Manchin and I have got a bill we're getting ready to start pushing that's going to basically do four or five basic things to try to help the NCAA because they're afraid of lawsuits.
	And one is this transfer.
	We're letting kids transfer and play immediately.
	Most of the time when I coached, if you transferred, fine.
	But you had to set out a year.
	You had to take a penalty.
	Did you lose a year of eligibility or did you just have to push it off for a year?
	Well, it depended.
	You got four years and you can play, you can be there five.
	So, you could still get that fourth year unless you were kind of in the end of your time.
	We're teaching kids to quit.
	Hey, when times get tough, I don't like this coach, or he's making me do too much, or we're working too hard.
	My buddies at this other school say we're not doing it, so I'm gonna go to this other school.
	So, that's not what this country is about.
	This country is about going and doing your job, doing your duty, working as a team, learning time management, work ethic, and all those things.
	I see both sides.
	I mean, I do see, hey, a lot of these school making
	Tens of hundreds of millions of dollars off of the players who couldn't do anything.
	So I mean, I get a component of it, but I think the point you just brought up is actually the scary one, which is like, I don't want to put in the work.
	This guy's going to give me more money to do that.
	I mean, I think what made a lot of the great players is having a great coach, someone who pushed them beyond out of their comfort zone.
	And I think, you know, for better or worse, in today's sort of instant gratification world, if it's like, ah, take $10 million from this, it's like, I could be done for life.
	Yeah, and we've gotten money involved in it, and one thing that we're trying to put back into it is when you go to college, you go for what?
	You go for an education.
	Now you're not, if you start transferring for money, you're not going to get a degree.
	You know, it's not going to happen.
	And so what we're doing is we're putting money in it, and parents are taking money, and actually what a lot of these kids are doing, all the money goes to the parents, and the kid doesn't get anything.
	That's where a lot of this abuse is.
	You're going to see lawsuits.
	This is going to be a problem.
	And there's contracts that are broken.
	So there's really no rules or regulations right now.
	It's kind of the Wild Wild West.
	We're trying to get it under control.
	Listen, I'm for players making money.
	Because it's hard what they do.
	It's the only time in their life they'll have two full-time jobs.
	Going to school, academics, tutors and all that and then you got to turn around and you got to go work and practice for a crazy coach and spend a lot of time lifting weights, you know going to meetings, practicing.
	It's a lot to it.
	So, I'm for them making money, but I tell you, I'm not for two or three on a team making money and the rest of them not making any.
	I'm for all of them getting a piece of it.
	I can see that creating a problem also, right?
	There's some bitterness.
	I can even see it in the sense that, you know, these are also young kids, right?
	They're pissed off this guy's, you know, driving a Ferrari and we're not like, hey, I'm just going to miss that block.
	It happened to some teams last year.
	We call it a bad locker room.
	You go in there and nobody talks to each other.
	They're mad at each other.
	Well, I'm playing, but he's making $500,000 and I'm making $100,000.
	Wait a minute.
	How come I'm the starter and he's not?
	But he's getting more money.
	And so that creates a terrible locker room.
	And the whole object is to win.
	You know, to win games.
	Yeah, I can see that.
	Again, in a contact sport like football.
	Right.
	You know, someone misses a block.
	On purpose, to level the playing field for them.
	But it can happen.
	I mean, this is an 18-year-old kid.
	Who knows what's going through their minds?
	You wish they wouldn't do that, but I can't say that... I don't know how many kids are playing college football, but it's thousands.
	It's gonna happen, and that could be devastating to people as well.
	Well, there's two things left in our society where kids get disciplined.
	Because a lot of our kids nowadays have one or no parent.
	Because this generation, for some reason, you know, the Democrats have fought the nuclear family and busted it up.
	Well, they've incentivized almost getting rid of it.
	Where you can make money.
	You know, you can make money if you're not married and all that.
	Bigger programs and more money.
	But the two areas that's really kept us together is military.
	You can go get discipline and hard work.
	You can learn all that.
	And sports.
	You can do the same thing.
	But everybody can't do it.
	But a lot of these young men and women learn to work with other people and do things right and know when things get tough how to get up off the ground and go again.
	We're ruining all that.
	We talked about the military earlier, now we're talking about sports.
	What have we got left?
	We don't have family, we don't have sports, and we're not going to have military to take thousands of kids into.
	Well, they're getting rid of God, too, as evidenced by the L.A.
	Dodgers.
	If they're comfortable doing that, you know what I mean?
	You know, again, I don't think they would do it if it was Muslim or Hindu or anyone else, but to attack sort of, you know, the Christian faith in that specific instance.
	No, we're 30% maybe.
	Catholics that way.
	We're maybe Christian in this country now, maybe 30%.
	Hopefully it's a little bit more than that, but it's, and this country was built on Christian faith, and of course, a lot of the Democrats fight it every day.
	Yeah, and they have Christian values.
	I mean, these are common things, but they, again, there is a flagrant attack on that.
	Right.
	Well, I enjoyed seeing young men
	Start from almost nothing and have nothing to being very successful.
	And them learning how to work, again, you come from high school, you think, man, I've made it.
	I'm going into college.
	It's just now getting started.
	And they look around the first day they're there, man, these guys are big, they're strong, they're fast.
	Well, they weren't when they were your age.
	They were starting on a weight program and they were starting to learn how to play the game and learn how to be a good person.
	And so, it was good to see kids.
	I recruited Ray Lewis, for instance, up here in Orlando.
	Kathleen High School in Lakeland.
	And one parent, very raw kid.
	Nobody hardly recruited him.
	He ended up being one of the best players ever.
	But, Ray Lewis wanted out.
	Michael Irving the same way.
	Michael Irving... He wanted out in college?
	No.
	He wanted out of what he grew up in.
	He was hungry.
	He was hungry.
	He wanted a better life for him and his mom and his brothers and sisters.
	And they worked to get to that point.
	And they earned it.
	And so, to me, that was the most enjoyable thing was to watch kids go from one to the other.
	Had a guy one time called Dwayne Johnson played.
	You know who Dwayne Johnson is?
	Dwayne Johnson was at Miami, played as a defensive coordinator, and he wanted to be a wrestler.
	Well, Dwayne Johnson is a rock.
	He ended up being a wrestler.
	Pretty good one.
	But he being an actor really put him to the point where obviously makes millions and millions.
	I really enjoyed seeing kids.
	Not just kids like that that went on to be all pro.
	To be excellent at football.
	But to go have a great life.
	And knew how to work and put time in.
	Knew if they had to be there at 5, you better be there at 5.
	So many of these kids don't know time restraints anymore.
	They don't understand it.
	Did you see the discipline change?
	You know, you did it for a long time.
	I mean, did you see that sort of level of discipline change or did the great ones always have that discipline and was that a standout factor?
	You would see some that you'd have, that's one of your most disappointing things, to see a kid come in with all this talent, and they didn't put it to use.
	I mean, they thought they were to the promised land, and they didn't want to work out on weights, and they thought, hey, I'm here, let's get it done, instead of earning their spurs, really doing what they needed to, to make themselves even better than what they were.
	That was hard, but you start to see the lack of discipline, but the thing about, again, most in this country, high school football programs I'd go to, they were hard-nosed.
	I mean, you can't be football and not be hard-nosed, and because you're not winning many games, the coach is going to get fired.
	And so, that's one thing that, as I said earlier, sports, and men and women, have really helped this country.
	Maintain the leadership, dedication, and the work ethic they need to make it through life.
	Well, it's sort of the ultimate meritocracy, right?
	Which is why it's so interesting that sports has been so politicized because it's the opposite, right?
	The NFL taking their woke positions on these things.
	If the guy's not the best, like, if you're not Tom Brady, you're not starting.
	Like, if you have Tom Brady, that guy's going to be the guy that's starting because there's so much on the line.
	And yet, it's always interesting watching sort of
	That's the, like, key tenet of the entire game in that, and yet, the sort of issues they espouse, the issues they take, are actually sort of the opposite of that in real life.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, you know.
	The irony is sort of, you know what I mean?
	Like, that would never fly.
	Like, you wouldn't be an NFL team.
	You'd lose money, and then, therefore, you wouldn't exist, and therefore, it wouldn't happen.
	And yet, feels like they're pushing that stuff outside of their ecosphere, but not within.
	It's happening more than you think, but it's, you know...
	If you just look back at sports, how people have, you know, came from nothing.
	You know, O.J.
	Simpson, you know, running back in my day, watching one of the greatest ever play.
	You know, he got cut from his 8th grade football team.
	You know, wouldn't let him play, wasn't good enough.
	And look where he ended up.
	And, you know, if you look at guys that I'm friends with, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, they're not great athletes.
	They made themselves into quarterbacks.
	We're good to go.
	Buddies of mine, who I affectionately call Mass Holes, we were watching a Patriots game the day Drew Blitzo was taken out.
	And again, these were grown men from Boston in tears that their guy, maybe not the greatest ever, but he sort of carried the franchise a little bit for a while.
	And they're in their tears because this, you know, guy that was warming up the bench, Tom Brady, was going to now be their quarterback.
	And like, I'm sitting there like, well, who would have known that that was sort of the start of a dynasty of probably the greatest quarterback in NFL history?
	He was.
	And of course, we forget about a lot of them over the years, and they call him, you know, the GOAT.
	Greatest of all time.
	And probably in the last 20 years, you could match him up against Joe Montana, you know, who was really, really good.
	Roger Staubach in his day was really, really good.
	Terry Bradshaw, really.
	So, but, you know, all those guys,
	How'd you get into it to begin with?
	I played.
	I played high school, played college, and then a small school in Arkansas, and then I decided, you know, a coach is really somebody that doesn't want to grow up.
	Really, it's true.
	And so, you can't play, but what's the next best thing?
	You're going to coach.
	And so I got into it on the high school level, then I got into it on the college level, and then Jimmy Johnson hired me down in Miami in 1985.
	And that was kind of my break.
	And I didn't move a whole lot compared to, I know guys that have moved 15, 20 times in their career.
	I only moved like 6 or 7, which was good.
	I enjoy sports.
	I enjoy everything outdoors, hunting, fishing, sports.
	I wasn't a rocket scientist.
	You know, I didn't study like my two boys are very smart, but they worked at it because their mom made it.
	One of them is actually a rocket scientist, I think, right?
	Yeah, really, really.
	You know, I got up every day, done, and enjoyed going to work.
	Now, this new job I've got, I can't say that 100%.
	Like I told you, I'm glad I'm there, but my goodness.
	I mean, it's something different every day.
	Well, but I think the same sort of stuff applies, right?
	The strategy that you used
	To become a winning coach in football.
	I mean, it is.
	Politics is strategy.
	I mean, there's a lot of it to it.
	It's not just going in and stamping something.
	I mean, you know, how aligned is sort of, you know, the strategy or the mentality of the strategy they used in football to win games the same as moving the ball forward in politics?
	I tell people this, the one thing that's common denominator for everything that we do in life is you have to sell yourself to other people.
	I mean, they can figure out a phone in a heartbeat.
	You've got to be able to communicate, but you've got to be able to sell yourself to three or four people on the Democratic side to get a bill passed.
	You know, you're going to get most people on your side.
	You've got to sell that.
	But there's no different.
	When I went into somebody's home in Detroit,
	Had parents sitting there, kid, I need you to come to Auburn.
	Why should you go to Auburn, coach?
	Well, if they don't believe in you first, they're not going to send him to your school.
	So you got to sell yourself.
	And so for any advice I can give to any young people out there is, you know, learn to sell yourself to other people by communicating what you're about and who you are.
	I mean, it's interesting you say that, because the two sort of other senators that you talked about are on the other side of the aisle, whether it's Fetterman or Manchin.
	So, yeah, I guess that's right.
	I mean, we forget that.
	We sort of pick that side.
	But I think sometimes we do have to figure out how to make that work.
	Otherwise, we are going to be in a perpetual stalemate, especially when you talk about a Congress where we have a four-seat majority in the House and, I guess, a one-seat minority in the Senate.
	I mean, these things are so close.
	If you can do that, you can actually flip that in our favor fairly well.
	But you've got to sell yourself.
	They've got to believe in you.
	Joe Manchin and I have worked on this NIO bill for a year, and of course we've got to be pretty close because of it.
	I've worked with Tim Kaine.
	Speaking of negotiations and getting something back, I heard the Biden administration is now pushing back on removing, I guess, Space Force.
	was going to be located in Alabama.
	Space Command.
	Well, yeah.
	Your dad put Space Command in Huntsville, but he started Space Force.
	Yeah.
	And President Trump was smart enough to understand the next war is probably going to be won or lost in space.
	Of course it will.
	I mean, between satellites and this.
	Exactly.
	And so,
	In Alabama, we've got a place called Huntsville that most people hadn't been.
	But let me tell you something.
	We've got what we call the Redstone Arsenal.
	Forty thousand troops behind a wall.
	We have the Missile Defense Agency.
	We protect the world with missile defense from Huntsville.
	We have six or seven hundred defense contractors.
	We build everything from rockets to tanks.
	And we have, obviously, NASA.
	We have
	Probably at least 30-40% now of the FBI.
	We just built them new buildings behind Redstone Arsenal.
	All their cyber security.
	We have ULA, SpaceX, Blue Origin.
	You name it, space-wise, it's in Huntsville.
	And, you know, President Trump put the Secretary of Air Force in charge and said, you find the best place for it.
	They looked at 60 places.
	Huntsville won it, hands down.
	And, of course, when Biden gets into office, he's talked into doing a re-review.
	Well, but the re-review was based on, basically, Alabama's policy on abortion.
	Which, you know, doesn't have much to do with space, but that doesn't stop the Democrats from radicalizing it, and again, trying to punish people for not just going along with everything that they want.
	So how do we hold them accountable?
	Well, that's an excuse, because you do have military bases in Florida, where your abortion laws are just like ours.
	Same thing in Texas.
	So if they're gonna start moving all military bases... The bastions of most military, frankly, they're not really in the liberal states with the exception of maybe California just because it's so big.
	Listen, I'm an American and if I was a senator from Alabama and I truly thought the best place for us to save our world would be to move Space Command and have it in Colorado, hey, let's go do it.
	But it's not.
	And we did it the right way.
	And it was done the right way.
	And if anybody, and I've invited President Biden, I don't know whether he's ever been to Huntsville or not, to see what was there.
	Listen, if he was there, he wouldn't know it.
	Yeah.
	Just tell him he's been there a number of times.
	Tell him he loved it.
	He'll probably give it to you because he doesn't know the difference.
	But I'm a senator from Alabama but I'm also a senator for the country and I want us to be well protected because I can see it coming because Chinese are building satellites right and left.
	Russia's building them.
	Iran's building them and you know they know how to shoot satellites out of space now.
	Russia did it two years ago for some stupid reason.
	We got space debris all over up there but we have a lot of smart people
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	We see what's going on and we certainly can't trust big tech or, frankly, these days, unfortunately, big government.
	Sorry, sir.
	I got it.
	It's true.
	It's true, and I think you believe it.
	I think you understand.
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	Again, guys, thanks for being here.
	I'm going to flip over to the locals.
	If you have the Ask Me Anything, I'll be on there in a couple of minutes.
	Thanks for all you guys do.
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	Have a great weekend and enjoy your Memorial Day.

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