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Retired Army General Tony Tata on Biden's Failed Foreign Policy + His New Book | TRIGGERED Ep. 23

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	Good evening and welcome to Triggered.
	Thank you again for joining us for all of the support.
	Thank you so much most importantly for sharing this kind of content with your friends because honestly let's let's not kid ourselves folks the mainstream media
	Big Tech, they ain't exactly going to help us get this message out there, so we're going to do it the old-fashioned way, the Trump way.
	We're going to do it organic.
	So just thank you for all of that.
	Get it out to your friends because that's, again, how we're going to win and fight back against the insanity that we see each and every day.
	Just ahead, we got an incredible interview with retired Army General, author, former head of the 82nd Airborne, 101st Airborne, 10th Mountain Division, and senior Trump Defense Department official, Anthony Teda.
	Great guy, one of the few guys sort of fighting against the bureaucracy in the DOD.
	You know, watch, you know, they tried canceling him and they wouldn't confirm him and, you know, again,
	If you want to do what the duly elected President of the United States wants to do, but that is contrary to the Washington D.C.
	unelected bureaucrat narrative, they're going to make life hell on you.
	But we'll talk about that in great detail with a great American.
	But before that, I want to wish you all
	An incredible Easter.
	I gave this to my team last second before we went live so I don't know if they'll be able to incorporate some of the pictures but you know got to spend time with my my amazing children and Kim and Ronan and we just had an absolute
	Blast.
	That's what it's all about.
	So for those of you, we'll talk a little bit about the attack on all things good and American at the end of this rundown.
	But I hope that you guys had an incredible Easter.
	I hope that you got to celebrate the holiest of holidays with your families, that you got to do that.
	In just the way it's meant to be.
	So we had an amazing time.
	We had a blast.
	Spencer seems to be.
	My little guy Spencer, he's the one that jumped on with me a couple weeks ago because he wanted to say hi to everyone.
	He seems to have the magic touch for finding the golden egg.
	I think in his 10 years of life, I think he's found seven of them.
	And he managed to pull off another one of those victories again, which
	We're good to go.
	It ends up being a bit of a disaster, but it works out well.
	So, Easter was incredible, but me and my little man Donnie were tired because we went to the UFC down in Miami on Saturday night to see my really good friend, just all-around badass Jorge Masvidal fight at the event down there in Miami.
	Unfortunately, he didn't pull it off, but man,
	Showed a lot of heart for a fighter, you know, late 30s, probably his last fight, but someone who's gone so far out of his way to be supportive of us, the America First movement.
	He tells, I'll have him on the podcast soon.
	I think I got to do that because just
	The story of his father and how he literally escaped Cuba from a raft and how he doesn't want to bring that shit here is absolutely incredible.
	So it was just awesome.
	So I went down there with my father.
	UFC 287 I think it was.
	Just an amazing night in Miami.
	Just electric.
	The MAGA movement is alive and well.
	The reception we received was insane.
	Dana, Dana White, who's done this, well, at least 287 times, said it was the most incredible cheer of someone walking into the arena in his history of doing it.
	So here's a clip of him walking out
	The big guy.
	My big guy.
	Your favorite president.
	Walking out with Kid Rock and Dana White to the tune of American Badass.
	Check it out for yourselves.
	I mean, the crowd was showing love the entire night.
	DJT had to get up in between rounds of fights because they just started chanting, you know, the MAGA chants in USA, and it was just awesome.
	Watch for yourself.
	But perhaps some of the most fun was actually, you know, backstage, uh, hanging out with, uh, Mike Tyson, telling some of those stories, uh, with him and his family and his wife, but telling the stories about, uh, the good old days back in Atlantic City and the fights with DJT, uh, not fights
	Meaning boxing matches, not fights with.
	He actually said, you know, DJT was the only guy that ever gave him good advice.
	He didn't always take it and probably regrets that.
	Actually said he would come on the podcast right here, live.
	So I think you guys will appreciate that.
	But great fighters, even Jorge came backstage that way.
	You had Theo Vaughn.
	Hanging out with DJT, so that's a podcast maybe we have to make happen as well.
	Even if it's against my interests, I may have to see that conversation take place.
	UFC, I guess he's going to be inducted into the Hall of Fame this year.
	Cowboy Cerrone definitely wins.
	Best t-shirt game because he showed up to the UFC in Miami with a Trump shirt on.
	Absolutely awesome.
	You know, Kid Rock, my buddy Bob, obviously just a great dude, great American.
	And so hanging out backstage with those guys and my son who really loved hanging out with, you know, Kyle and Steve will do it from Nelk.
	You know, those guys just kicking ass at everything that they're doing and just
	You know, maybe a little less political, but you can see, you know, where they lean, just having a conversation about sanity.
	So, it was just an insanely awesome evening.
	We got home at about 3 o'clock in the morning, so a little bit exhausted.
	A little bit exhausted for Easter.
	But, you know, just even the posts and the pictures I was just taking, just bing!
	You know, a fly on the wall.
	Just amazing and went viral as heck.
	Like the one, you know, literally, it's Dana, DJT, Kid Rock, and Mike Tyson, like, calling the fights.
	I mean, doesn't get sort of cooler than that.
	And again, it was just awesome to be in that crowd.
	I mean, even when I walked in, I got a bit of an ovation myself, which was kind of cool and surprising.
	But, you know, obviously alive and well in, you know, what was formerly, you know, white blue Miami.
	So,
	That's the good news.
	But we have some more.
	The Texas governor, Greg Abbott, said he's working on a pardon for army sergeant convicted of murder during the 2020 BLM violence.
	Many on the left called it the summer of love, but Daniel Perry was recently convicted of murder
	For shooting and killing a BLM demonstrator named Garrett Foster during the violent, vicious, murderous, looting mayhem of the 2020 Summer of Love riots.
	Perry was working as an Uber driver on July 25, 2020, when he encountered a large BLM riot in downtown Austin.
	He told police that a group of protesters encircled his vehicle and that Foster raised an AK-47 at him.
	Prompting him to open fire with a handgun in self-defense.
	Now, this case is an obvious case of self-defense.
	We saw with our own eyes exactly what the Summer of Love riots were all about.
	This shouldn't surprise anyone.
	But... But in these days, unfortunately, there's always a but.
	There's always a but to logic and reason and decency.
	Because we live in a sane world,
	And Austin has a left-wing, George Soros-backed, radical prosecutor named Jose Garza.
	The prosecutor is being accused by the lead detective of the case of withholding exculpatory evidence from the grand jury.
	A grand jury
	They've voted to convict, okay?
	The prosecutor is withholding exculpatory evidence.
	Think about that.
	I wonder where else that's probably happening.
	I wonder what other Soros-funded district attorney is doing that.
	You think there's anything out there like that, guys?
	Well, Detective David Fugate said in court that there was no evidence, no evidence that Perry accelerated into the crowd and that Garrett Foster's gunshot wounds indicate that he was in a tactical stance when he approached Perry's door.
	It does not get more clean cut than that, but it doesn't matter because the George Soros radical leftists want to destroy our country.
	They want to destroy anything that is good and decent left in America.
	The left is doing a wonderful job of that as evidenced by literally all of the news about the trans-terrorism going on these days, but it doesn't matter folks.
	They keep getting elected.
	Because they have endless cash funded by a radical billionaire who wants to destroy everything we know and love about our country.
	And they're doing it.
	Look at all the cities.
	This is just another example.
	But thank God, Texas Governor Greg Abbott said that he's working on a pardon.
	He said, and I quote,
	Texas has one of the strongest stand-your-ground laws of self-defense that cannot be nullified by a jury or a progressive district attorney.
	I look forward to approving the board's pardon recommendation as it hits my desk.
	Guys, the real problem is that at least we have a conservative governor in the state of Texas.
	But you don't have that everywhere else.
	You have radical leftists.
	That's the reality.
	While there may be moderate Democrats left in the country, I know plenty of them.
	I know plenty of them.
	There's no one that represents them because they can't win without the Soros money.
	And it's not just Soros, guys.
	There's dozens of those billionaires, right?
	They used to talk about Sheldon Adelson, the one Republican billionaire that actually funded some of these things, and they could say the most vicious things about him.
	They could call him any name.
	He happens to be Jewish, like George Soros.
	Now, if you say anything about George Soros, though, it's magically anti-Semitic.
	Now, his history could call some of those things into question regardless, but it still doesn't matter.
	People are being shamed and canceled, and they're afraid to call out George Soros for the radical scumbag he is.
	If you look at the things he's done, the people he's helped get elected, and then you look at what happens in those areas, there's literally no one that can tell you it's for the good of the nation, or for the good of anything moral, just, or decent.
	But it doesn't matter, because that's what we're up against.
	Big Tech will have their full backing, and again, they'll call anyone who questions him an anti-Semite.
	Even if you're talking about crime and electing radical lunatics, it doesn't matter.
	Anti-Semite, right?
	It's like racism, the easy button of the political left these days.
	It doesn't matter.
	It doesn't have to be about race.
	You can be talking about anything.
	No one wants to be called a racist because it's the worst thing in the world but they do it day in and day out and unfortunately they've overblown it so far that now people hear it.
	Here we go again.
	Just another person being called a racist.
	And what they do is they do a major disservice to those people who are actually affected by it.
	It is a real thing.
	It's just not the cause of or solution for all of the world's problems.
	It's a tiny thing in America in 2023, but they'd have you believe that it's the biggest thing in the world.
	Just like somehow white supremacy is the nation's largest threat, though no one really can name one or has ever seen more than one or two idiots running around doing those things.
	But it doesn't matter.
	Because we're led by fools.
	We're led by lunatics.
	And they have the full weight and backing of big tech, the mainstream media, billionaires like Soros, and dozens more behind him.
	And that's the battle we're in.
	So speaking of idiots, Joe Biden at the White House Egg Roll mumbles through the question about if he's running for election because of course he can't get that right.
	He basically
	Botched his announcement, and in lighter and still very sad news, Biden was asked by Al Roker if he's running for re-election.
	This is the guy that won 81 million votes, America!
	You must believe that!
	He's so competent and so good, so many people got around him because he was the guy that was gonna stop World War III magically.
	Although that doesn't look like it's working out too well.
	He was the guy that was gonna work for the middle class.
	That's worked really poorly.
	He was the guy that was gonna fight for your economies and your 401ks and all the other things that he was gonna magically fix.
	Look at how he responded.
	So this is a fantastic event, one of my favorites of the year.
	I was just wondering, Mr. President, will you be taking part in the Easter Egg Rolls after 2024?
	Well, I plan on at least three or four more Easter Egg Rolls.
	At least three or four more?
	Maybe five.
	Maybe five.
	Maybe six.
	What the hell?
	Are you saying that you would be taking part in our upcoming election in 2024?
	Well, I'll either roll an egg or, you know, be the guy who's pushing them out.
	Come on.
	Help a brother out.
	Make some news for me.
	No, no, no.
	I plan on running out, but we're not prepared to announce it yet.
	All right.
	Well, it's so nice.
	Thank you for having us up here.
	Good to be here.
	Thank you, Dr. Biden.
	Have fun.
	Guys, this guy is a mumbling moron.
	He should be in a nursing home, not the White House.
	Most agree, by the way.
	CNN, of all places, found that just one-third of Americans think that he deserves to be re-elected.
	I'm amazed that even one-third.
	I mean, you can be a radical Democrat and still realize that this guy is an imbecile.
	But he's effective for what the radical left wants to do because he'll do, sign, and say anything.
	And that leads us to another big story that deserves much more attention.
	Walter Reed Medical Center.
	Terminates Catholic pastoral care contract right before the Holy Week of Easter, the holiest week in the Christian calendar, and the Biden administration sent a cease and desist order right before the Holy Week that directed Catholic priests to cease any religious services at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center.
	Are you kidding me?
	I mean, this looks like an attack on the First Amendment's free exercise of religion, obviously.
	It comes at the same time as the DOD and Pentagon doctors are claiming that seven-year-olds are capable of deciding whether they can get so-called puberty blockers.
	No wonder the military is struggling to recruit anyone.
	No wonder they're falling so short, right?
	A big part of patriotism is actually, actually believing the stuff that your country stands for and these days it stands for puberty blockers, for minors, for allowing children to mutilate their bodies, for not wanting parents to have any say in the matter.
	That's where we stand.
	Under Biden, the Pentagon resembles a typical leftist, lunatic organization.
	The attack on your religion is real.
	It's palpable.
	You don't think they didn't know it was Easter?
	They don't care.
	You don't think that Christians make up probably the majority of the United States military since they make up a majority of our population?
	They don't care.
	If you're in a Walter Reed suffering for serving your country, you can't have Catholic services during Easter?
	God forbid!
	We want a trans person to, I don't know, talk to you about something is probably where they're going with it because that's where they're going with everything else.
	It's insane and it's a tax.
	Okay guys, don't forget if they can do these things,
	And the media is silent.
	And big tech is silent.
	And we're silent?
	They will continue to get away with it.
	They will undermine our country.
	They will undermine our Judeo-Christian roots.
	They will undermine everything
	That we stand for.
	And to do this for people who are suffering at Walter Reed right now, the week before Easter, shows that they do not give a shit.
	So, we'll talk a lot about this with Anthony Teda here in a couple seconds.
	So, guys, thank you for that.
	And let's get to the interview.
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	And with that, I want to bring in Anthony Teda.
	Brigadier General, United States Army, retired.
	Retired.
	But you were there during the Trump years, Anthony.
	You were there during some of the lunacy.
	You were actually outspoken early.
	And it's sort of amazing watching what's going on in, like, woke military.
	Right?
	It's sad.
	You were an actual operator also, not just a bureaucrat, right?
	So you understand both of those worlds, right?
	You worked in the administration, but you did real stuff on the ground.
	When I talk to... I was a competitive shooter, and there's a lot of overlap with a lot of those guys, so I talk with other operators.
	Teams guys, special forces guys, and these are people where the military runs in their blood.
	Not only would they bleed for our country, but their generations of them did.
	I speak to them now and they're like, I wouldn't even think about letting my kids go to the military.
	It's not even like, well, I'll leave it up to them.
	They're like, no way.
	What's going on?
	It's crazy, Don.
	What's happening is this administration and the progressive left don't love this country.
	That's clear, by the way.
	That's not a political thing.
	There's no objective way to look at it differently.
	Right.
	And that's what all these subdivisions, dividing and conquering is what they're doing.
	They're categorizing people.
	You're some kind of phobe if you're a conservative and you're some kind of hero if you're on the progressive left side.
	And so what parents are watching this and seeing that
	The military is very political and they don't want their kids involved in that.
	Disengaging from foreign entanglements, as George Washington said, we should not be in foreign entanglements.
	Disengaging from that, while using the other levers of national power, economy, information, diplomacy, which none of that is happening now under this administration, to shape and influence events.
	The tariffs are a perfect example.
	Leveraging the United States economic power to achieve a diplomatic and military outcome by achieving deterrence against China.
	That finesse is gone now.
	Well, not only is it gone, it almost feels like it's the opposite, right?
	We're pushing trans stuff in the military and we have the cast of Ted Lasso over at the White House simultaneously
	Putin is meeting with Xi.
	The Saudis are meeting with China to eliminate the petrodollar.
	I think our viewers understand what that means.
	If we can't borrow because we have essentially a fictitious gold standard backed by oil in the ground,
	Maybe it's a good thing because maybe we wouldn't be able to afford to fund the insanity that our government funds.
	Here's a billion dollars for the trans education in Pakistan.
	I'm sure that money is going to good use.
	It's being stolen.
	The ISI is using that money.
	They don't think that's a serious issue.
	Literally no one does.
	But they're happy to take our money if we're foolish enough to give it to them.
	But how is that happening?
	I think it's to undermine society.
	Remember, Barack Obama promised fundamental change to this country.
	You've still got all the Barack Obama people, Susan Rice, etc.
	running this.
	They are trying to make sure
	People like your father, your father himself, never get elected again because he is the biggest threat to this crazy agenda that's out there that is fundamentally attempting to change this country.
	And so what you see is using our institutions, weaponizing our institutions,
	Yeah, and I think that many people make the mistake.
	They look at Joe and they see, you know, a bumbling idiot, you know, on TV.
	Someone who can't get through a sentence or walk up a flight of stairs.
	And yet, you know, I've sort of had this conversation with a bunch of people.
	He's actually been very effective for the radical nature of what they're doing.
	Meaning, I think it's still Obama and Susan Rice in charge.
	They just weren't willing to tarnish their legacies, like, singing this shit.
	You know, they wouldn't, you know, like, alright, maybe we want that, but I'm not willing to sign the paper and risk my reputation or, you know, my ability to profiteer off of it, whereas Joe Biden's just
	He'll sign anything you put in.
	He's like Ron Burgundy.
	You put it on the teleprompter, he'll say it.
	Well, he'll try to say it on the teleprompter, but if you put it in front of the sign, I'm sure with a crayon he can get through his signature still.
	So I actually think he's been more effective at implementing the stuff that the radical left wants than Obama ever was because they don't care about his legacy.
	That and he's effective at doing what he's told to do.
	Well, that's all it is.
	No one thinks he's coming up with policy on his own.
	It's pretty clear he can't come up with much, and yet it's effective for that cause.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I had that thought driving over here that Biden is actually a very effective president for the progressive left.
	And he ran as a moderate.
	And now what he what he's doing is executing the New Green Deal, the progressive left, everything.
	The school shooting in Nashville.
	I haven't been a superintendent of one of the largest school systems in the country in Wake County.
	You know, that was a big concern of mine.
	Every single day, you've got 150,000 students, are they all okay?
	The fact that they talk about the issue of trans rights and all that, instead of talking about Christianity or the school or the victims,
	Well, or that they won't even acknowledge it's a terrorist attack, right?
	I mean, if it was a guy like you or me in a MAGA hat, I mean, they would jump to those conclusions really quickly.
	So, I mean, that's an interesting one.
	I mean, you've led the 82nd Airborne, the 101st Airborne, the 10th Mountain Division,
	You've also run school districts.
	Right.
	You know, I have five kids myself.
	You've led men in combat.
	You've managed large school districts.
	Right.
	How do we prevent this stuff from happening?
	Because it feels so obvious to me, and yet the bureaucrats won't allow it to happen.
	Yeah, so, you know, I had 150,000 students, 170 schools, 170 different entities that needed to be protected.
	I had a security team.
	And I leveraged my experience to be proactive, to be in the community.
	And we partnered with, there were 12 different municipalities, Raleigh, Wake Forest, Holly Springs, others.
	And all of their police departments provided school resource officers, is what they were called, but they were cops with guns at the school.
	Well, they had tasers.
	And they were very effective, and it's all about
	A good intelligence work is understanding your population and we would have meetings and they would brief me.
	We think we're a little worried about this and we rehearsed school lockdown drills and God forbid nothing happened in my time as superintendent there.
	Okay, so it seems like the solution is a relatively obvious one with some basic training, working with those institutions that, you know, the same ones that the teachers union want to defund and all that nonsense.
	I mean, but what did that cost you?
	I mean, that's one of the largest school districts in North Carolina.
	How much of the state did that comprise?
	It was peanuts relative to my $1.25 billion budget.
	I could have done more.
	So you're thinking, for the $130 billion we have spent, and you know, by the way, that's just the beginning, right?
	As you understand, that's just the beginning, because Big War has been looking at Big Pharma for the last couple of years and saying, it's our turn now, guys.
	We haven't been at war in like a year, let's get going.
	But you think for
	For a tiny fraction of that $130 billion, we could implement this across the country.
	Across the country.
	At every public school, every private school, every charter school.
	And we could figure out some scenario where the funding, it would be
	A net zero almost, where you could apply those funds, you could find them somewhere else.
	There's so much waste in school systems and education systems, particularly with all this DEI training and all this stuff you've got to do.
	You could just repurpose that money.
	Yeah, by the way, take that training, which serves literally zero purpose whatsoever, other than maybe again for the woke agenda, but doesn't actually teach... I wish they'd teach math in school these days.
	Because it feels like, you know, that's not of a concern.
	Right.
	And that's, I'm not saying, because someone will criticize me, say, oh, they're still teaching math.
	No, but our kids are failing at it.
	Right.
	You know, we spend more per capita than any nation in the world, and we're like 28, you know, in the rankings.
	We have schools that the entire graduating class isn't proficient in reading.
	So, yeah, yeah, they're teaching, but, like, give me a break.
	Well, school choice is such a big deal now, and for parents and for legislatures and governors to be sure that they provide parents as much opportunity as possible for their precious cargo, their children.
	You have five children.
	You know, I have two.
	I mean, nothing is more important than your children, their education, their livelihood, their potential.
	Talk a little bit about Ukraine.
	Obviously, there's a huge money spend.
	To protect a border that's not our own.
	We're unwilling to protect our own, it seems.
	Or it is.
	That's just fact at this point.
	What do you see going on there?
	And when you talk about the rise of China, the threat there, our other allies around the world, whether they be Taiwan or others, how
	How can we be fighting a proxy war, which is all it's been, right?
	I mean, we're de facto, I guess there's people in there still have sort of the 1980 mentality of we've got to take on Russia now, you know, even if we won economically in the early 90s.
	How do we, I mean, can we fight a two-front war right now?
	You've led some of the most elite units in our army, and it feels like
	So much of what my father spent trying to build up.
	Build up the military.
	Get them the best equipment.
	Get them replenished rather than fighting an archaic war in an archaic way.
	Are those resources so diminished that we'd actually be able to fight a war at this point?
	Well, the resources are finite, Don, because we can't even meet our recruiting goals under this administration.
	And then when you talk about providing Patriot missile systems, M1 Abrams tanks, and some of our more sophisticated weaponry to Ukraine, and then if the balloon goes up in Taiwan, you know, we've got a real issue on our hands.
	And so I, you know, I managed as the Undersecretary the National Defense Strategy, which talked about China, Russia as our primary threats, Iran, North Korea as the secondary threats.
	And what this administration has done is managed to create a very solid alliance between our four major competitors.
	It's mind-boggling.
	It's either intentional or utter incompetence.
	Maybe a combination of both.
	Right.
	And you have to go back to this botched withdrawal from Afghanistan to understand what's happening in Ukraine.
	And I'm furious about Kirby releasing this report that was watered down anyway yesterday into the maw of a no-news cycle, four-day weekend.
	The biggest insult, the second biggest insult, the biggest insult to every veteran from Afghanistan was what happened on the withdrawal.
	The second biggest insult and the final nail in that coffin is releasing this thing into the four-day weekend.
	So, yeah, get into the details of that for our viewers, because again, you know, people wanted to be with their families over Easter.
	And so I'm sure it was intentionally, you know, every time there's incompetence, they release it on a Friday evening on a holiday weekend.
	Oh, we released it!
	We're being really forthcoming, you know.
	They'll make sure that their lackeys in the media don't cover any of the incompetence.
	I'm sure it'll be whitewashed already.
	So whatever incompetence is highlighted, you'll assume it's 20x.
	But the underlying point, Don, is that when that was happening, I was the Deputy Commander General of all the troops in Afghanistan in 06-07.
	And I had 25,000 troops that I was responsible for.
	We lost 87 of those troops in combat.
	Many others were maimed by IEDs and firefights.
	I had several calling me saying, sir, they were emotionally broken.
	The generation of veterans that went through Afghanistan are emotionally traumatized by what happened then.
	And now, it's almost, because there's been no accountability, there's been no vetting, there's been no airing of really what went wrong, there's been no attempt to learn how not to repeat that in the future.
	They slide this thing.
	It's almost like an intentional blank you to veterans and the veteran community that's already fractured.
	And they just slide this thing out there.
	And so now over Easter, the most holy of weekends,
	The veteran community has to wrestle with this concept that their service, according to this administration, was meaningless.
	So what does it say specifically?
	What's the breaking news in that for those who, again, missed it?
	Well, the breaking news is that they blame your father.
	I know that's a shocker.
	They were taking a lot of victory laps at the time because they were able to accelerate it.
	And they did it during the fighting season, rather, in the winter when a lot of these people are literally in caves and minor details like that.
	All that kind of stuff we had talked about for the transition, which they wouldn't listen to us when the Biden administration came in.
	But the breaking news really, the one tidbit, the one morsel, is that
	What could go wrong?
	Every briefing, this has been the largest airlift of people since the Berlin Airlift or whatever.
	And I'm like, that's utterly meaningless.
	There might have been a few hundred people we needed to get out of there.
	And they're talking about 75, whatever the number is, 1,000.
	But what that did, according to the report, is it made them increase the flow of people through Abbey Gate.
	Well, we read now that they... I mean, one of the things I saw, they actually had the bomber...
	A sniper had him in a crosshairs and couldn't get permission to actually take him out.
	Which is a hallmark of the Obama administration.
	That 8,000 mile screwdriver to have to go up through several different levels of command for a sniper to do his job.
	You divest all of that responsibility and authority down to the lowest level.
	Well, it's why they took out ISIS so quickly under my father.
	You let the war fighters fight a war.
	And I had that.
	I have complaints from friends.
	Before, they were like, we'd have a playing card guy, a very high-value target, and they'd be like, he'd go into a building, and we're ready, and we call DC.
	And with the time difference, it's 3 o'clock in the morning, no one's in their office, they're sleeping comfortably in their well-air-conditioned homes.
	And by the time they got information, now there's 50 kids playing soccer in front of the hotel, or whatever they had.
	Right, right, right.
	And they just couldn't do it.
	To think that they had this guy in their sights, and some bureaucrat wouldn't allow it to do it.
	Now 13 incredible Americans are dead.
	And by the way, no consequence to anyone, right?
	No consequence.
	And then five minutes later they go, I guess five hours later, we found the masterminds
	Who did this?
	And we were able to... Wait, wait, wait.
	You're like the guys like, you know, I saw the Secretary of State on TV.
	They could not have seen this coming.
	I'm like, really?
	Or I guess that was Lloyd Austin, right?
	You couldn't have seen it coming.
	Right.
	What are you talking about?
	Everyone saw it coming.
	I remember picking up my 9-year-old.
	I tell this story all the time.
	Mike picked up my 9-year-old at school that week for father-son dinner.
	He was like, Dad, why would they leave the civilians?
	Why would they withdraw the military forces?
	This is a 9-year-old at the time.
	Dad, why would we leave them, you know, 86 billion in equipment?
	Why would we leave them any equipment?
	I don't understand.
	Why did we leave them biometric scanners so they could find... You didn't know what the word biometric was.
	I don't want to be that guy that, you know, my three-year-old talks about nuclear proliferation in the Korean Peninsula.
	It's like, no, they didn't.
	Like, you're making that up.
	But like, he did was like, there was like the scanner stuff that they could find the people that were helping us for 20 years.
	And I was like, I have no answers.
	Like these aren't serious people anymore.
	Right.
	They're not.
	They're not serious people, Don.
	And you look at this and you got to say, what's going on?
	Well, what's going on is what they wanted to do.
	Think about it.
	Everybody was on vacation.
	It was August, the peak of fighting season, as you mentioned.
	And
	All of Europe is on vacation.
	Every NATO nation was in there in some form.
	And one of the things, I had calls sometimes multiple times a week with every, you know, the major NATO nation, UK, Canada, Germany, and I reassured them, we came in together, we modified together, we will leave together.
	Yeah, the talking points that, oh, NATO was broken under President Trump couldn't be further from the truth.
	We had tremendous relations and tremendous respect for one another.
	And so it's Biden who came in and gets to my point for bringing this up.
	They leave, they're on vacation.
	Remember, Blinken was in the Hamptons and Psaki was somewhere else.
	Not that it would matter because he's incompetent, but when you think about all the NATO nations, what happens in Europe in August?
	Everybody's gone on vacation.
	Politicians all the way down to government workers.
	So, we didn't do any lateral coordination.
	We just left.
	We were just leaving.
	There was no, like, oh, hey guys, we thought you might want to know.
	Yeah, no, I feel they were equally surprised, meaning our allies and the people who fought with us for 20 years and the translators.
	I know Friends, again, they were doing sort of like publicly paid, you know, or privately paid formations to try to get some of the people who were actually helpful, you know, who they vetted over decades of being shot at.
	We're not going to help those people, but if you're an unvetted terrorist, maybe ISIS, but sure, get on the plane and come on in.
	Bring that backpack with you.
	It's wonderful.
	I hear it ticking, it's probably fine.
	Why take the chance?
	The big point here is Putin's watching all that, and he says NATO is broken.
	The Americans just shafted NATO.
	If most people recognize the window of opportunity by the sound of it shutting, Putin saw that window of opportunity began a couple weeks later, moving troops into Belarus, moving troops on the Ukraine border.
	Suddenly, we're left holding this bag in Afghanistan, and you've got the utterly incompetent Tony Blinken
	Yeah, so you guys understand, that's our Secretary of State, that's the guy that got up and did a press conference the week following saying that he was, and I quote,
	Did not install a more diverse and inclusive government.
	That's not a joke.
	That's like verbatim of what this idiot said on a world stage after 13 Marines were killed, after we embarrassed ourselves, after China is sitting there salivating, you know, because whatever the timeline was for taking over Taiwan, it has now been rapidly accelerated because, like, this idiot thought, like,
	There was even a chance.
	I mean, they watched the Taliban throw homosexuals off of a building, but they think there was going to be a big gay contingent of the Taliban that was going to have a seat at the table.
	Maybe we'll have a trans movement now.
	I mean, they own everything, right?
	They're the most privileged class in the world as far as I'm concerned right now.
	Was the Taliban going to have a big trans coalition in Afghanistan to help decide what's going on?
	Take that, Andy, and give you—and raise it.
	So he made that moronic statement.
	Come around now to Ukraine.
	Putin has—there's been no diplomacy.
	On the eve of the invasion, how wrong did the intelligence have to be, the U.S.
	intelligence community?
	How wrong do Blinken and Biden's instincts have to be to offer Zelensky a ride out on the eve of the invasion?
	Remember, Zelensky famously said, I don't need a ride, I need ammunition.
	So, think about this for a second, Don.
	If your father had done that, and this would have never happened, it did not happen.
	I said, it didn't happen.
	In the four years President Trump was—that negative has been proven.
	It didn't happen and it wouldn't happen.
	But think about how wrong they have to be.
	And they—let me put it a different way.
	They offered to decapitate the Ukrainian government to assist Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
	Yeah.
	No, that sounds like a welcome back.
	Like, hey, we'll take this guy out.
	There will be no leadership.
	Right.
	You guys just come on out.
	Yeah.
	And that was their instinct.
	That was their very first instinct.
	And it was because, A, they're incompetent, but B, the intelligence was really bad.
	If you recall, I was doing a lot of Fox and Newsmax a year ago on this.
	I was one of the only guys saying, look, the Russian soldiers are not 10 foot tall.
	This is going to take a long time.
	You know, Putin doesn't move 150,000 troops and decide to wrap it up in a few weeks.
	And everybody was saying, all the other blue check generals were saying, you know, CNN, MSNBC, oh, this is going to, you know, be, you know, 72 hour and it's going to, everybody's going to be speaking Russian.
	I said, no, it's not.
	And A, I've commanded Ukrainian soldiers in combat in Kosovo, and they're very good, they're very technically competent.
	B, one of my dearest West Point friends that graduated with me left Wall Street in 2014 after the Maidan riots, went and joined the Ukrainian military because he's passionate about it, and he was shot and killed on the Russian front in 2014, Mark Paslowski.
	And so they have the passion, they have the technical competence.
	And so the real question for me is, just like any border incursion, the international law, we probably have a role here with NATO and reinforcing NATO and making sure that nothing happens to NATO.
	Ukraine's not in NATO.
	So, we have a monitor.
	Maybe, maybe push them some stuff.
	I think from a defense perspective, the one thing that the administration has gotten right is the rotational combat brigades that have been going over there from the 101st, 82nd, and others, 1st Armored Division.
	By the way, that's what got us here to begin with.
	We can say what we want.
	I'm not saying Putin's a good guy.
	He saw weakness and the nature of a predator is to exploit that weakness.
	That's a story as old as nature itself.
	You look at Joe Biden, it only encourages your enemies to pounce on the weakness.
	When you started talking about Ukraine, which is a large country, landmass-wise, hundreds of miles of border, and NATO's like, OK, fine.
	You know what?
	It's been a 50-year stalemate.
	Let's just add him in the NATO.
	I'm like, wait a minute, are we not encroaching?
	It just feels like, and if you say that, you're a Russia apologist, and I'm like, I'm not apologizing for him, but I'm also not so intellectually either dishonest or stupid to say that, oh yeah, no, no, no, we did nothing, maybe Putin was gonna do it anyway, but I feel like we gave him the excuse
	To do it even if they want to do it.
	It'd be a lot harder on the world stage to do this if we weren't like, okay, we're gonna let them in and now we're doing the same in Finland and it's like, you know, what do you do when a megalomaniac is sort of, and an egomaniac, is pressured to that level?
	Yeah, so for the record, Putin's a bad guy.
	He shouldn't have done this.
	We need to make sure that he can't do this anymore, etc.
	I've spent my career fighting evil on behalf of the United States.
	But when you think about it, adding Finland, for example, to NATO,
	There was no deliberation about that.
	We've got now a commitment that if there's a border incursion in Finland, American soldiers are now going to go fight and die in Finland.
	And Germany still won't pay their dues because Joe Biden's not going to make them do it like Trump did.
	Still buying Russian oil and increasing the war trust that Putin pivots into his war in Ukraine.
	Well, that's the one that I never understood.
	My father nailed that in my opinion.
	I'm saying like, wait a minute.
	So Germany doesn't want to pay its NATO dues.
	It was a big deal when Trump was like, pay it, and we're like, oh my god, Trump's threatening NATO.
	I'm like, no, he's just saying, like, these guys, it wasn't like he asked them to pay more.
	Just pay what you said you'd pay.
	Right, exactly.
	Well, we've all agreed we'd pay, and that was a big deal, and then they're saying, well, we need more protection from the United States, paid for by the United States, mostly, right, which is the vast majority of NATO's budget is the U.S., but we're going to simultaneously enrich the country
	I don't understand.
	Oh my God.
	It's a threat to NATO.
	This has been an alliance for 50 years.
	I'm like, listen, with friends like NATO, I don't know that I need friends.
	If they don't want to pay their dues... You know, it's called tough love, Don.
	Your father was exactly right.
	Every collective security arrangement needs an alpha.
	And your father was the Alpha in NATO, because NATO, for too long, has been a cocktail circuit.
	Yes, they have supported us in the Out of Area Mission in Afghanistan.
	They did great work there, whether it was a 30-person Provincial Reconstruction Team like Romania had, which we left hanging, by the way, all the way up to Brigade Combat Team from Canada.
	A recurring theme here.
	Leaving our allies hanging.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And as they see that, I'm sure our allies like Taiwan are probably less than thrilled.
	Exactly.
	China is watching our level of lack of commitment to our allies.
	And so what you really have is an international geopolitical stage where China has made the calculation, let me come in and from an information diplomatic operation point of view,
	Do a big meeting with Putin and promise to financially backstop them.
	Think about Russia running low on troops, running low on money, with China's massive economic engine backstopping them.
	I'd say it's an underperformance.
	Right.
	I mean, you were right in that you said, hey, it's not going to be over that quickly, but I mean, I think it's probably one of the gross underperformances, perhaps, of military history.
	Yeah, perhaps.
	Other than our Afghanistan withdrawal.
	Well, yeah, well, yes.
	No, no, listen, people in glass houses, I understand, but like...
	But, you know, I think people said, hey, maybe it wasn't days, but months.
	Right.
	You know, here we are a year and change later.
	And, you know, now the news is also a little biased.
	Like, I don't think that Russia's actually losing.
	You know, every time that, like, a Russian tank is, like, hit by one of our missiles paid for by the U.S.
	taxpayer, it's like, Ukraine is advancing!
	You know, but then every time Russia takes over an entire town, it's like, well, it's not really strategically significant.
	Like, you know, the psyop of the media response to this stuff isn't.
	So I don't think
	Putin's winning.
	It's taking him a lot longer than anyone imagined.
	I think he's got some egg on his face given what sort of the world thought of the Russian military and their abilities.
	But the China component changes all of that.
	It changes the calculus.
	Think about how Reagan built up our military to drive the Soviet Union into the ground economically.
	Think about if we get myopathy focused on Ukraine and pouring money, pouring money, pouring money, and China's just sitting there.
	There's no if, Tony.
	We've already done that.
	To the tune of $130 billion.
	So what does it mean to our economic coffers, our military equipment, if we continue to do this with Ukraine?
	Russia's just got an open checkbook with China.
	Is that a reverse Reagan on us now?
	Well, it certainly feels like it, right?
	I mean, China has expanded all over the world.
	They own every precious metal mine and rare earth mineral mine in sub-Saharan Africa.
	I'm sure they care very much about the environmental standards and child slave labor used to mine these things.
	They're very cognizant of it.
	Our ESG scores don't count that stuff against Apple and others because they subcontract it out.
	They didn't pull the trigger themselves even if it's pulling the trigger.
	But China's expanded their influence in Latin America.
	Whether it be through telecom or other, again, oil and gas and all these things, like, you know, talk about the threat of China because, again, we think of it, oh, it's just economic and there's maybe some military, but it's so much more pervasive than even, I think, the average person who understands they're by far the biggest threat we face today.
	Your father, the president, absolutely nailed this.
	There wasn't a day as the undersecretary they went by that I wasn't making some decision or recommendation relative to China's Belt and Road strategy.
	The Huawei comes in to Africa, they refit some countries' telecoms, the Chinese build a bridge, get the country in debt to them, and then they come in with their military training, and all of a sudden, they have pervasively integrated themselves into this country.
	And one of the last things I did as undersecretary is I went to several different countries, Africa, Southwest Asia, Indian Ocean,
	And they were all areas where Africa, or China, is trying to build ports.
	You know, Equatorial Guinea, you know, they are getting big bucks, you know, the west coast of Africa.
	And briefcases of cash, right?
	Let's not pretend they're doing this above board, right?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
	And then Mozambique was another area.
	Maldives, another area.
	And it's, you know... What's in the Maldives?
	Is it just strategic?
	It's in the Indian Ocean, 1,100 islands.
	I mean, I think of it as like a resort, you know, chain of islands, but I guess it's just proximity to the Middle East.
	So, you come out of the Persian Gulf, you come out of the Malaccan Strait above Indonesia, and there's the Maldives.
	So, China wants to build, the Secretary asked me to go there, and China wants to build a base, a huge naval base there.
	And it's kind of like Diego Garcia is to us.
	We have a bomber fleet down in Diego Garcia to do operations from the Indian Ocean up into Southwest Asia.
	China is very seriously... I talked to the Prime Minister of Maldives for two days, and she is very concerned.
	She's very Western-leaning, but she says that China's coming in here with all this money.
	I've got a very poor population.
	I'm not sure what to do.
	We signed an agreement with her in the Maldives and with Mozambique and with Equatorial Guinea and with Morocco, everywhere, to try to counter Chinese influence, making commitments and promises that we would work together in teamwork as a partner, if not an ally.
	But that notion, especially when you see sort of the flip-flopping in our political system, when you see the actual way we treat a lot of our allies, certainly probably doesn't outweigh the, again, briefcase of cash and promises.
	I don't think that China's been a good ally.
	To the general people of a population.
	You mentioned Mozambique.
	I imagine the average person in Mozambique is probably suffering because of China's incursion, but the people at the top and the people who make the power, they're driving Bentleys right now.
	Right.
	Absolutely.
	No one will talk about what's actually going on there, but talk about what the threat means to the U.S.
	now as you see that incursion go further into Latin America and otherwise.
	They're right up on our borders.
	Yeah, they are.
	Latin America, Central America, Panama Canal, they're working with Venezuela, everywhere in South America.
	The Chinese strategy is one to just plant all these seeds everywhere, see what takes root, continue to nourish it, and become
	Remember Obama used to have the strategy that a weaker America made for a better world.
	That was his strategy.
	His apology tour.
	He thought we were too aggressive.
	And so you have the same people running Biden and putting the talking points in front of Biden.
	And so why else would we not be energy independent?
	Why else would we, you know, do what we're doing to our military where we can't meet our recruiting goals?
	Why else would we be doing what we're doing?
	You mean Drag Queen Story Hour at Fort Bragg isn't a great recruitment tool?
	Yeah, it wasn't there when I was there.
	What would have happened if you were there?
	Listen, there's guys that were like you that are in the military.
	I understand there's the woke generals that want to get on the board of Disney.
	That's their retirement plan.
	I understand that.
	You've written books and become an author.
	You've got to do something when you get out.
	But how does someone who can dedicate their lives to this just go along blindly with that insanity in these systems?
	And again, when you think about the threat of China, we're wasting our money on the drag queen story hour at Fort Bragg.
	They're taking over.
	We're good to go.
	It's the social movement of our generation.
	Does anyone believe this?
	And I'm fairly progressive on the issue.
	If you're an adult and you want to chop off your genitals, I don't give a shit.
	Don't bitch to me later.
	I don't care what you do.
	In our military, jamming it down our throats.
	We had people on this show before talking about it, like, Ronnie Jackson was here, you know, admiral and this, and he served in the White House, he's a doctor, and he was like, well, they, you know, the military recruitment, like, they'll pay for your gender reassignment surgery, but when you're going through that process, you're so jacked up on hormones, they won't even let you actually fight!
	Right.
	So, like, they're paying for it, you get to sit on the sidelines, you check the box off, like, I was in the military and serving my country, and, like,
	You weren't.
	You were, but not really.
	You weren't going to ever get deployed.
	It feels like we're allowing people to game a system while the guys we'd actually want fighting for us are like, yeah, screw that.
	Why would I do it?
	Yeah, peace out.
	It's a real issue.
	Army, 60-70% recruiting.
	Marines are the only ones that really hit their recruiting goal, and that's because they did a little bit of a
	Accounting fudge where they pulled from next year's recruits to meet this year's recruiting and and and that's that's a real indicator of the sort of temperature of the country.
	If you can't get and we have small military relative to you know 20-30 years ago it was about 50% of what it was and and if you can't get
	500,000 people in the military.
	100,000 a year is kind of what you need out of a 330 million country.
	You got real issues.
	And it's a lack of leadership.
	It's a divisive administration that pushes down these ideologies.
	I mean, I know Lloyd Austin very well.
	I can tell you there's no way that
	You know, even though he's prophesizing it, that back in the day when he was my commander in the 82nd Airborne, you know, he never talked about any of this stuff.
	I mean, the question is, do you think he even believes it now?
	I don't, I don't.
	And I hope not, because if he doesn't actually believe it, then maybe there's a chance
	You know, we can gain back some insanity.
	If he actually believes it and has bought the Kool-Aid, then it's... I mean, they're both terrible, right?
	If he doesn't believe it and he's just going along with it and, like, you know, because that's the thing and that's the Disney retirement package and board seat and stuff like that, just, you know, be the woke general.
	You know, that's a problem, too, but it's not as bad as, like, actually being dumb enough to believe any of this stuff.
	He either has fully bought into it or he's going to continue to do so because of, you know,
	Yeah, you take on that mantle and you can't change this late in life because of the board seats, the Disney, all that stuff that's waiting.
	That's clearly Blinken's game.
	He's completely uninterested in being Secretary of State, but he's totally interested in the portfolio that comes after it.
	Yeah, it's like doing his time to get some creds and we'll make some money after that and just appease the woke people because there's no consequence for Boeing insane woke, but there is a consequence for being reasonable, even reasonable these days on some of these issues.
	I don't know if we can pull it up, but we had a clip of John Kirby saying there was no, and I quote, chaos during the Afghan withdrawal.
	Can we play that?
	And so for all this talk of chaos, I just didn't see it.
	Not from my perch.
	At one point during the evacuation, there was an aircraft taking off full of people, Americans and Afghans alike, every 48 minutes.
	And not one single mission was missed.
	So I'm sorry, I just won't buy the whole argument of chaos.
	Yeah, so Don, I'm pretty pissed off right now.
	You should be, by the way.
	I saw Kirby completely insult the veteran community.
	He's lying openly on national TV from the White House.
	We're good to go.
	That's the definition of chaos.
	Anybody who watched the Abbey Gate tape or any of the other stuff happening, not even to mention that you had the Afghan Special Forces soldiers being executed.
	Yeah.
	A fair interpretation of his words are that they are bold-faced lies.
	It's intentional to damage the veteran community.
	It's because veterans are mostly, at that time, great Americans that signed up to defend the country and they figure that they're on the other team.
	And this administration is 100% about, you're either on our team or
	Or you're an enemy, domestically.
	And the President has been very clear about that.
	This military, this DOD, is trying to find white nationalists within the military.
	And they're trying to politically divide the military.
	Well, you saw it with the vaccine mandates, right?
	The operators, the seals.
	We'll replace them with a trans seal!
	Right, right.
	No, but it was, you know, you're watching them like, oh my god, like the most fit people in the world, like that have zero chance, I'm going to say zero because statistics is basically, it would be basically zero of having any problems with COVID, but they're going to jam the vaccine mandates down their throat and if they resist,
	That's the flag that, hey, they're probably conservative, and we're going to do what we can to make sure that they don't have any promotion.
	We saw the same thing happen in the FBI.
	The agents that come up to me and say, hey, it's disgusting what's going on, and the bureaucrats, we hate it, but they also know if they say anything,
	They're done.
	If they're not gone, their employment and their career is stalled out in perpetuity.
	I have someone very close to me, I'm not going to say who it is because there will be further reprisals, but in the military, didn't take the vaccine and has been reprised against time and time and time again.
	He's had
	Career opportunities taken away from him, promotions taken away from him, training that he must have to get promoted taken away from him.
	All the while, the Army policy or military policy is that none of that will happen.
	But at the local level, this woke-ism creeps down and it has a very real impact on individuals that just want to serve the country.
	And you can't have that any kind of dissent.
	Within the ranks.
	You can't have people thinking about, well, maybe one day I want to start a family and I'm not so sure about this vaccine.
	Yeah.
	Well, so, I mean, we're talking about Kirby and like, we also have Kirby and, you know, Millie talking about the Afghan withdrawal, saying that the Taliban, the Taliban troops would, would not be able to overwhelm, you know, the Afghan fighting forces.
	Again, I didn't serve, so perhaps I have no commentary.
	Let's just assume I know jack shit about Afghanistan, which is fine.
	You didn't take a lot to understand that.
	It feels like everyone I know that was on the ground there was like, no man, it was a clown show.
	That doesn't mean there weren't some guys that could fight.
	I'm not saying that.
	But like, there was no way that they were gonna band together and actually be able to fight without us being there backstopping it.
	And yet, you know, they said that to us with a straight face.
	This comes, you know, directly from the Pentagon.
	I mean, are they just flagrantly lying to us at this point?
	If they fired the utterly incompetent General McKenzie from CENTCOM, who oversaw a lot of this, and laughed on TV when asked a question about the dead soldiers,
	That would have broken the narrative that something had gone wrong and so it's a hermetically sealed narrative and the reason you can't have an honest vetting is because any probe of this from any direction, it was a cluster from Jump Street and it will tear apart the narrative.
	But you spoke about the recruitment crisis and it's very real.
	If that's the case, and that's the mentality, how do you ever solve... meaning, I don't see any solutions that are realistic.
	So what has to happen?
	We need a new president.
	We need your father to be president.
	Okay, but fine.
	I agree.
	But even then, right?
	I mean, you were there.
	How much and how active was DOD, the Department of Defense, in like preventing my father from doing the things that he wanted to do?
	I know there were plenty of things and plenty of guys being like, listen, they tried slow rolling on this.
	You know, Ronny Jackson spoke about, you know, sort of the trans initiative and combating it and like how insane it was and something.
	And again, you can be accepting of someone what they want to do as an adult, but like maybe don't give someone jacked up on meds and, you know, someone who was rated, you know,
	We're good to go.
	I got so much to say about this, Don.
	I appreciate the question.
	The establishment, when your father won, you know, who didn't support your father, jumped across the threshold and said, okay, great jobs for all of us, right?
	And so, good people that supported your father, you know, I've been Secretary of Transportation within the state of North Carolina working for a governor, and I understand, and of course working for your father, how important it is to have people that are
	Un-elected bureaucrats in many cases.
	Operator versus unelected bureaucrat telling them what to do.
	At the end of the day, what we had, a good example is when I came, I came in in the last year of your father's administration and I had helped in North Carolina in 2016.
	And they also tried to slow roll you and they tried to prevent you from getting any kind of thing and eventually they had to sort of put you in as acting because the bureaucrats wouldn't
	Let's define them.
	Let's define him by his worst moment instead of all the great moments that he's had in his life.
	And that's where we are in this culture today.
	But when I finally did get in there, I was brought this document to sign.
	And I'm reading this document and it was about the Iran nuclear deal.
	And as I read it, I called the team in and I said, this leaves open a path to doing the Iran nuclear deal.
	Oh, that's right, sir.
	I'm like, the president has said we don't want the Iran nuclear deal, that it's
	We disagree!
	And they're like, yeah, but, you know, we need to have this.
	I'm like, no, we don't.
	Rewrite this and make it say that this thing is over, that this is done.
	That's a good example.
	And these were senior officials, assistant secretaries of defense, that reported to me.
	And I'm like,
	Jesus, this is what's happening in DOD.
	It's literally that bureaucracy, which trends liberal anyway, the fact that they had the chutzpah to think that they had the power, the authority, to do their own foreign policy.
	Correct.
	Yeah.
	Counter to what your father, President Trump, wanted done.
	And he had exactly the right instincts on all of this stuff.
	And so it's crazy to me that we got as much done as we did.
	Well, I always say that.
	I'm like, listen, you look at his accomplishments, you gotta understand, it wasn't just like Republican versus Democrat.
	Almost all of DC was working against it, even the people supposedly on our side, because again, you know, once Trump is gone, it's going to go back to the regular bureaucracy, and I can't, you know, I got to keep my toes in both pools.
	Right.
	And so that was very clear, and maybe that's perhaps the most powerful aspect of Trump 2024, which is like, he's not trying to get re-elected.
	Right.
	There's one four-year term to just to burn it all down to the ground, and I think you almost have to do that if you ever want to
	Get rid of the woke shit in the military to eventually meet your recruiting requirements.
	If you want to actually be, you know, a threat to China rather than like, you know, they're watching us like laughing.
	I mean, it's literally, we're a caricature of ourselves.
	Right.
	At this point when you see the stuff that they're talking about and the things that they're out there saying that matter, even if they're only pretending.
	Right.
	It's still lunacy.
	Right.
	You know, and yet it happens.
	So I want to ask you about this one because, you know,
	There's talk, and my father said, about using the military to go after the Mexican drug cartels.
	And, you know, the fentanyl crisis is as clear and present a danger to the United States as probably anything, certainly far more of a threat than Russia.
	Right.
	Meaning, unless we instigate them into nuclear war, but if we weren't doing that, yes, they have a big nuclear arsenal, but it's not killing tens of thousands of Americans every year.
	You know, what are your thoughts on that?
	And how do you do it?
	Because even talking about it, and you know, the D.C.
	Oh my God, it's a sovereign nation!
	These are people killing, you know, these are people literally killing and maiming our children daily, making billions.
	They've subverted their own governments.
	They're taking on, like, they're going after Mexican police forces and their own military.
	I mean, there's a way to do this without invading a sovereign nation.
	Well, they could be a partner.
	We could have DHS, DOD, and the Mexican versions of those two entities working together jointly on the border like we do any border operation.
	I've run border operations in Kosovo and Afghanistan.
	You pick the third world country that I've been deployed to, you've got to work with the other governments.
	Border operation.
	Does that still work in Mexico though?
	Meaning, you know, obviously, you know the cartels, everyone's on the payroll, right?
	Right.
	Is there a level where...
	Is it past the brink down there, where the real de facto rulers of the country are actually the cartels, and so you can work with the military, but it's not going to really be effective, because someone's going to be giving the information to someone?
	I mean, does there come a point where you say,
	Guys, you've got to let us do what we're going to do.
	We're going to help you.
	And if they say no, doesn't it tell you everything you need to know?
	It does tell you everything you need to know.
	And I think the way you approach it is like any counter-insurgency.
	Your intelligence has to inform your actions.
	You make very good points in like how deep is the corruption?
	Is the president corrupt?
	Are the generals in the military tied to the cartels?
	What do we actually know?
	How do we build that sort of spider web diagram of that link diagram of who's connected to who?
	And then who are the high-value targets that we need?
	It's like Al-Qaeda or whatever.
	Who are the high-value targets that we need to you know take out of the picture and begin some surgical joint operations with
	I mean, does the same apply elsewhere around the world as we start seeing these things?
	Obviously, that threat of the cartel is so important, and again, I'm the last person wanting to wage the never-ending wars, but that one actually feels like one that's worth fighting for.
	Talk about US foreign policy, because it's sort of interesting.
	Trump was the guy that was going to start World War III, and Trump was going to get us into all of these conflicts, and it was going to be nuclear armageddon because of Donald Trump, and yet
	He's like the only guy out there with a platform that's actually being like, I don't want any wars.
	And if we are going to get into a war, let there be an objective, at least the drug cartel one.
	I'm like, yeah, I mean, that's a war that sort of makes sense.
	It's actually going to save Americans, which doesn't seem to be the end result of 99% of what we're doing militarily these days.
	Yeah, so think about, let's just pick North Korea, for example.
	Your father comes in.
	They've been testing nukes under Obama.
	They tested one under your father, and he began the information campaign with a little rocket man.
	You know, got a meeting, you know, stepped into North Korea, all of that.
	And, you know, whatever your dad did, he was going to be criticized, right?
	But the genius of that was he developed an open line of communication with Kim Jong-un, who, you know, had been a black box up until that point, essentially.
	And the human-to-human contact.
	I don't care who it is.
	It's easy to argue with somebody's online avatar, but it's hard to sit down in person.
	And this is my criticism.
	I'm blanking and not getting in there with Putin or Biden.
	Your father understood the importance of transparency between nations that could potentially go to war.
	And so whether it was the Helsinki meeting or with Putin or meeting with Kim Jong-un, your father under Sajid down in Palm Beach, he understood the importance of that dialogue and he has great instincts and ability to make that connection.
	And of course it all gets reinterpreted by the 98% of the press that hates him, right?
	Oh yeah, well listen, I remember that as it was going on.
	Trump's doing it all wrong in North Korea.
	I go, well, why?
	They never tested another nuke!
	I've been leading the delegation for 27 years and I'm like, well, what have you accomplished?
	How dare you?
	You questioned my credentials.
	Have you had a meeting with the guy?
	Right, right.
	So you've been doing the same thing for 27, whatever the hell it was, 40 years.
	You've achieved nothing.
	No objective success.
	And someone comes in and changes that playbook and he's doing it all wrong.
	I'd argue that you've been doing it all wrong.
	In D.C.
	it's easy to become an expert and remain an expert even if you're wrong for 30 years.
	We've got to break that.
	The key point that you point out is the guy's been doing it for 27 years.
	He's had the power, the access, the money, the influence.
	And nothing.
	And he loves that.
	That's all he cares about.
	He's invited to the cocktail party and someone kisses his ass because they think he's got some power in North Korea, whereas North Korea's never even heard of the Klan.
	That's the unelected bureaucrat piece.
	You know, those perks, that largesse, is what they thrive off of.
	It doesn't matter what happens or whether or not they actually accomplish something.
	As long as they maintain that status, that's what they care about for the most part.
	So, I mean, talk about that a little bit, right?
	Joe Biden has been mocked in Washington D.C.
	for decades in terms of being like Robert Gates, like Obama's own guy, during the election was like, listen, Joe Biden's been wrong on literally every single foreign policy issue
	In the history of his hundreds of years in Washington, D.C.
	I wrote about it, actually, in my book, Liberal Privilege, because it's so flagrant.
	And yet, now we're soft on China, and no one seems to be saying anything about it.
	Where can these policies go?
	How do we change that aspect?
	Because it seems like
	It's like the perfect confluence of like incompetence and corruption.
	Yeah.
	And when you look at that, you know, if you follow the money, that'd be pretty clear.
	I know if it was me, uh, you know, as a Biden doing the things that Hunter did and my family doing the things that the Biden family digs, it's not just Hunter.
	Uh, there'd be a problem and people would be asking the question and they'd be talking about it.
	And yet there's crickets from,
	Yeah, we'd be rated right now if you had done what Hunter did.
	I mean, it's insane.
	You know, you look at your family and everybody, upstanding citizen, you know, great, great Americans.
	You look at what's happened with Hunter and Ashley.
	There's some real issues there, and I'm interested in Comer's investigation that's happening in the House.
	I'm hoping that it bears some fruit.
	I'm hoping that... Well, it's there.
	It's a question of whether the Republicans will push it hard enough.
	That's where I was going.
	Will they allow themselves to be slow-rolled?
	They're hoping, you know, hey, we can drag this out another 18 months and we'll be in an election cycle.
	Maybe we get back to the House and we don't have to answer any of these questions or follow up on any of these... We don't play the way they play.
	Exactly.
	And I'm wondering if McCarthy is going to impeach Biden over this issue, which is very impeachable.
	They've got to get the right issue.
	And I think McCarthy needs to live up to his promise that he's going to take it to the president.
	And until we start
	Fighting back that way, because we get our jockstrap handed to us every single time on these kinds of issues.
	By the way, we'd actually end a lot of the problems like that if the left actually thought we had the teeth.
	Exactly.
	If they actually thought we would do these things, whether it's like my father's indictment just last week, any of these things, if they actually thought we'd play the same game,
	I think it would prevent, like, the vast majority of it.
	Even though, you know, understand they got the help of big tech and they got the bias from there and the bias from the mainstream media, fine.
	But if they actually thought that, like, Republicans would fight back with tea, they would probably end 99% of the nonsense.
	But as long as, like, you know, we're playing t-ball while they're playing fast-pitch hardball,
	It's sort of like, of course they're going to keep doing it.
	Of course they're going to take the win.
	Why wouldn't they?
	These aren't, you know, principled people.
	They're communists.
	Of course they're going to do this.
	It's all about power.
	And, you know, initially when I was watching McCarthy being put through the ringer there on the multiple votes, I was like, come on, we've got to show some teamwork.
	And then about the fifth time I really looked at him, I'm like, you know what?
	We need to make sure that he's going to do what he says he's going to do.
	Listen, balls and strikes, I think he's actually doing a lot of that now.
	Now, we've got to see it, and again, it's not just one guy, right?
	We do have to exercise the power of the purse, because we have powers that we don't have.
	We have a four-seat majority in Congress, we don't have the Senate, we don't have the White House.
	We're not passing lots of legislation right now, but we can function as a blocker to a lot of the insanity.
	We can use that subpoena power, and so you also need the other Republicans to be willing to go along with it.
	Probably no one better at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory than a Republican that gets harassed by the mainstream Washington, D.C.
	press who's functioning as the marketing department of the other side.
	But it's an easy existence to be a weak Republican in D.C.
	It's not so easy if you're actually a fighter.
	Right, exactly.
	You keep your job, you got that power, you got that supposed influence, but if you're a fighter, they come after you.
	I mean, you know, two and a half years ago, whatever it was, they came after me.
	Talk about that!
	You know, here I am, Don, a public servant all my life, 28 year career in the military,
	I think so.
	And, you know, you have about 78% of that community that is low income.
	And I did that for two years, got recruited by Wake County Public School System, the 15th largest system in the country, 150,000 students, 18,000 employees, 170 schools, to come be their superintendent.
	And, you know, from a career standpoint, that was the, you know, epitome of my life.
	I was able to
	Take all my military training, all my leadership training, and then come in and lead from the front, as I always did in combat, and go into every classroom, go into every school.
	I was in all 170 schools in the first 180 school days of the year.
	And I was a present figure and we made significant changes.
	I can walk down the streets of Raleigh today, people stop me and say, Mr. Tata, thank you for creating that leadership school for young men.
	Thank you for creating that leadership school for young women.
	I got a text the other day, the leadership academies that we created that have a public service curriculum,
	Scored 10 points higher than any other school in the state of North Carolina on proficiency and graduation rates.
	And so the change that you can make in education despite all of the you know liberal agendas being infused in there are huge.
	And so that was and then the governor appointed me as the Secretary of Transportation.
	But what happened in the school system
	The board flipped from 5-4 Republican to 5-4 Democrat.
	Six months later, after campaigning that they loved me, the Democrats, because I was popular in the community, I had an 82% approval rating.
	That's unheard of in politics.
	Yeah, right, right.
	And I didn't poll myself.
	That was a WRAL poll in the Triangle Business Journal.
	And so they exercised a buyout clause.
	And I had just done a State of the School speech.
	We had the best year in the history of Wake County Public Schools.
	Democrats didn't care about the students.
	What they cared about was a rising political conservative.
	In academia, yeah.
	I was a registered independent because I understood I needed to be straddling the fence.
	I'd stopped all my Fox News, CNN stuff, and I was doing about equal amount of both.
	But of course, they said, oh, Tate is a Fox News guy.
	And I shut down.
	I stopped writing.
	You know, I dedicated myself to this.
	And they had to get rid of me because I was becoming too popular.
	And so the Governor makes me the Secretary of Transportation.
	Watch, I got all over the state, had a $4 billion budget, and we made very positive changes in two and a half years.
	And I look at this guy, Buttigieg, and I'm like, this clown has no idea.
	We have these supply chain issues.
	He's a checkbox.
	Yeah, he's a checkbox.
	Like, hey, we gotta give him that.
	It's why he got to run for president.
	It's not like he had actual accomplishments that he could really run on.
	Like, that guy's gonna be president?
	Of course he is, because he checks a couple of boxes, but that's about the extent of it.
	So you go and you start working on Trump, and then they're going to just go all out.
	So I have this resume for military, education, transportation, understanding the holistic nature of our society, and I get asked three years into it to come work for your father.
	Instantly, it was just like, let's rip this guy to shreds.
	And your dad told me.
	Oh, he knew!
	He was like, hey listen, you've seen combat, you may see something slightly worse, amazingly enough.
	But you know, your father stood by me, and I went in mid-December after the election, and I just went into the Oval Office and sat down with him and said, you know, thank you so much.
	So talk about it.
	Any standout moments?
	I mean, obviously that's one of them, right?
	Well, when I interviewed for the job, it was me, your father behind the Resolute Desk, Mark Esper, and Robert O'Brien, and then John McEntee in the Oval Office.
	30, 45 minutes question.
	Your father walking me around the world asking me very detailed questions about what my policy position might be.
	And of course, I had been commentating on TV for three years.
	Fairly consistently.
	And fairly consistently.
	And I believe in the America First agenda.
	I believe in what your father was trying to do for us from a foreign policy.
	His level of detail and ability to educate me was very impressive.
	He understood
	And at the end, he turns to Mark Esper and says, you know, if you don't make him Undersecretary, I'm gonna, you know, make him Ambassador.
	And I'm like,
	You know, it was kind of a hitty moment to be in the Oval Office with your father, and every interaction I've had with President Trump has been, he's been nothing but a gentleman, nothing but respectful.
	All this stuff I see out there... Yeah, careful, you're going to destroy his reputation!
	That's what they're, yeah, they'll tell you the opposite all day long, and I guess with anything else that we've been watching for the last few
	So Don, Total Empire is my 15th book.
	As a kid, I was a jock.
	I was a decent student.
	And my dad, I was 12, and my dad was a high school football coach.
	Both my parents were teachers.
	And he says, so kid, what do you want to be when you grow up?
	And I said, I want to be a fiction novelist.
	I used to read all the time.
	And he says, you've got to put food on the table.
	And he's the son of an Italian immigrant bricklayer.
	So, I just started writing.
	It was one of these things.
	I was a big reader, and I said, why am I consuming entertainment when I could be producing entertainment?
	And it was kind of this epiphany moment.
	I was watching TV when I was a young lieutenant in the Army, and I'm like, I always said I wanted to be a writer.
	Why am I just sitting here watching TV?
	Why don't I produce entertainment?
	So when did you start that?
	Mid-90s.
	My first book is not even public.
	I never even submitted it.
	So I had like three books by about 2007.
	I just was very private about it.
	It was a way of me releasing stress and escaping into a different world.
	Some people play guitar.
	Some people go woodwork in their garage.
	I would go right.
	We're good to go.
	I was crashing at his house before taking command in the 82nd Airborne, and I had a floppy disk, and this is 97, and it was going bad, and so I had to save it on his computer in the room I was staying in at his house, Rob Hobart's his name, great American.
	And the title of the book was Rogue Threat.
	So, I go away for like two days of training and I come back and I have a new floppy disk and I'm going to download it from the thing, but it's not there.
	It's not on the hard drive.
	I'm like, hey Rob, did you delete some stuff?
	He goes, yeah, I found this virus called Rogue Threat and I deleted it.
	I was concerned it was going to mess up my computer.
	Rob, that was a book I was writing.
	You know, I had added like 40 pages since I'd been there, and you know the deal, like 40 pages.
	Well, and that was the day where, like, there wasn't real backup.
	It wasn't, like, you know, backing up on the clouds simultaneously.
	Like, if you lost that disc, you were shit out of luck.
	Like, there's nothing else.
	Unfortunately.
	I remember this.
	I hope he's messing with you.
	No, he wasn't.
	He wasn't even messing with you.
	Oh, God.
	This wasn't like a great troll.
	I said, Rob, that was a book I was writing.
	It gets ashen.
	And so fast forward a few years and he retires and he's on an airplane and he's sitting next to a guy named Brad Thor.
	Brad is a big thriller writer in this industry.
	And a light bulb goes off in Rob's head.
	He calls me and he says, I have a path to redemption.
	I'm going to introduce you over dinner in Chicago to Brad Thorne.
	You've got to get your boat up to Chicago.
	And the rest is history.
	Brad connected me to a publisher, and they took the three books I had, and now I'm with St.
	Martin's Press, which is massive.
	One of the things that I often think about is,
	My editor, Mark Resnick, is an awesome guy.
	The team at St.
	Martins is awesome.
	Who is the view or the book promotion people?
	I really appreciate you having me on.
	To talk about foreign policy, you can see how passionate I am about it, or even school systems, and about my writing career, because it's so important.
	Well, it's interesting, because I'd be curious actually, you know, writing fiction versus non-fiction.
	I wrote a New York Times bestseller myself, you know, it's called Triggered, you know, published that, and then
	You know, you started getting in that world, and you know, guys coming up to me like, wow, you're like the most, like, we spend more time with you than any writer, like, I'm like, what do you mean?
	And you're like, well, a lot of the books of people writing their books, like, they speak to someone for a couple hours, and like, literally, we hand them a book, they sign off on it, and, you know, maybe do a book tour.
	And so it was interesting, but I also started seeing, you know, in my world, and sort of, you know, non-fiction, writing about politics,
	I'm very biased in publishing.
	I have friends that are congressmen and senators and other pundits who had books either cancelled or just so whitewashed down by liberal editors.
	I actually started my own publishing company, publishing books of some of those same people that were so censored.
	I have people where they bought the book
	Yeah, so it's interesting.
	The team at St.
	Martins, Mark Resnick and his staff, my editor,
	100% supportive.
	Gave me a new deal after I left the administration.
	They have been nothing, Macmillan, St.
	Martins Press, nothing but supportive of me.
	Where it gets a little dicey is on the film and TV side.
	I had a lot of people
	And that's where the real money is, right?
	Publishing a book is fine, you can do it okay, but it's not like... And I mean, I have nothing but good stuff to say about MacMillan San Martins.
	I've been sort of in the middle with four or five different producers, filmmakers, and all that, and the deal's just kind of...
	Once I got into the mall.
	Once they Google you.
	Google does its thing.
	You're the worst human being in the world.
	You're a conspiracy theorist.
	So my question is, we have Amanda Milius and we have some others, but where is the conservative Hollywood?
	How are we going to, as half the country, going to support our own?
	I've almost given up, and yet you see Top Gun Maverick.
	More than any movie combined.
	There was another movie that I almost refused to give my business either way at this point, but I did see Top Gun Maverick.
	I thought it was great.
	It still had some of the woke stuff in it, but it wasn't so bad that it was jammed down your throat.
	Exactly.
	There's clear casting decisions like that that probably are an example, but whatever.
	I thought it was great.
	And so did the rest of America.
	So hopefully they just learn that eventually they got to do it.
	I just hope it's not, you know, like so much of woke corporate, which is like, okay, you can be this way.
	We're happy to take your money.
	And then we're going to take your money and use it to push an agenda that you couldn't stand.
	For people who hate your guts.
	And so, you know, there's a happy medium.
	Yeah, I'm not sure it's happening in Hollywood yet.
	Like I said, they always tell us to build our own.
	That's why I started, you know, Winning Team Publishing.
	I'm publishing Marjorie Taylor Greene's book.
	Publishing Carey Lake's book.
	Oh, great.
	Just Janine, like my father's stuff.
	Because...
	It'd be hard to get it done any other way.
	Right.
	And so, you know, we got to do this.
	So hopefully there's someone, you know, that can... Hollywood's a big one to crack.
	Publishing is.
	But, you know, when you have sort of a platform to be able to push it... Right.
	...perhaps a little bit easier.
	It's a much smaller beast.
	Right.
	So hopefully someone approaches that and attacks it the same way.
	And, you know, we can get that fair shot.
	But we ain't getting it from Hollywood.
	Right.
	Currently.
	So, you know, I do my best to not support them.
	Well, you know, Total Empire, to me, is a second book in a series.
	You've got General Garrett Sinclair, who represents all the patriotic values in America, and he leads Dagger Task Force, which is responsive to the President, and has to go on a mission to find his goddaughter in Morocco and Mauritania, Africa.
	Sounds familiar.
	And the people that want to employ the 8,000 mile screwdriver to micromanage to protect their own careers.
	It has nothing to do with the troops on the ground.
	And that's really the essence of the story.
	And Chasing the Lion was the first book in the series.
	And it's Garrett Sinclair, Fort Bragg based, and his team.
	I enjoy this process of writing and creating.
	I just turned in book 3 in the series to Mark Resnick, my editor at St.
	Martins.
	Writing to me is a great creative endeavor.
	I love that.
	Go check it out, I assume.
	Available where everything's available.
	Audio, Kindle, eBook, hardcover, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, any bookstore in the world.
	General, thank you very much.
	Thank you so much.
	Guys, go check out the book.
	I think you'll like it.
	It's just awesome to see that there's still people like you that exist that are willing to speak out.
	Because again, I know there's plenty of you that exist that have the military background or are upset with what's going on.
	There's far fewer that are willing to speak out, so thank you very much, guys.
	Appreciate you.
	Go check out the books again, and we'll have to talk again as we approach closer and closer to the brink of war every day.
	It sounds crazy, but unfortunately we've got to do it.
	We'll have you back.
	Thank you very much, Adam.
	Thanks, Don.
	Appreciate it.
	Guys, thank you again.
	I hope you had an awesome Easter weekend.
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	Diversify your portfolio, folks.
	Don't get stuck in the insanity.
	You're seeing the warnings.
	The banks are collapsing.
	The stock market's going crazy.
	The decisions that are being made are asinine.
	Go to donjrgold.com.
	Check them out, learn more about it, but protect yourself from the insanity.
	So go to donjrgold.com to learn more.
	I appreciate you guys.
	Make sure you're passing this stuff on to your friends so that they can see it because we know, you know, let's just say big tech, big social, all those.
	They ain't gonna be spreading this word, but we do need people to see these things.
	We need people to understand exactly what's going on, so please do that.
	Thank you for everything that you guys do.
	You guys are the best.
	I hope you all had an incredible Easter weekend celebrating our holiest holidays with your families.
	That's number one, so I hope that was awesome, and we'll see you back here again on Thursday.
	God bless.

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