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Feb. 2, 2023 - Triggered - Donald Trump Jr
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Eduardo Bolsonaro and Don Jr Talk Election Fraud and the Globalist Agenda | TRIGGERED Ep. 4
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But Now to the episode.
I'm super excited about this one.
A lot of similarities here, okay?
Eduardo Bolsonaro, the son of the former president of Brazil, in an election that many would call as shady as the craziness that we were seeing here.
Someone who's very political himself.
He's actually taken a plunge a little bit further than me in that he's one of the most popular congressmen in Brazil.
So we can talk all things about having powerful dads.
That can be a rough one.
I know you guys think it's a cakewalk, but sometimes I feel like Hillary at the debates
throughout most of my 45 years.
But really excited to be here with Eduardo talking about politics,
talking about the similarities of the craziness of the elections.
You saw the popularity and the popular vote and that the uprising, again, mostly peaceful,
but the uprising of people that thought they were cheated through the nonsense.
And I can't help but say, man, this stuff seems to only break one way
and the similarities are really amazing.
So I'm really excited about this one.
Eduardo Bolsonaro, let's talk.
Okay, guys. With that said, I want to welcome my friend, Eduardo Bolsonaro, to Triggered.
How's it going, buddy? Not that good, but life keeps going on.
You know what? I share the same thing, right?
I mean, it's sort of amazing with Brazil and what's going on right now.
The similarities are crazy, right?
The outcomes are almost identical in a certain respect.
You had an election where the people...
Actual people. We saw it.
The popularity of your father, like mine, from real people, the working class, through the roof.
You didn't see a single rally for the other side.
You didn't see a single person show up for these things.
And yet, they always managed to pull off the win by just the right amount needed.
Tell me what's going on, because I want to talk about the systems as well, because it seems almost like we're going through the same thing at the same time against a common enemy, which is sort of this wave of socialism, Marxism, that's pushing.
And I see even... Frankly, the U.S. helping Lula, who's siding with China, and I'm wondering what's going on.
This is a crazy thing. I have to ask you, why the Biden administration is so excited to do conversation, dialogues, and be together with the Lula administration?
When everybody knows that Lula is going to be much more closer to China and other countries that actually are your enemies and enemies of the free speech, enemies of the freedom and all of that.
It's just crazy. I think it's a thing that I don't know how to explain that because usually what people would expect It doesn't matter here in the U.S. if you are left-wing or right-wing.
It's that you are patriots.
You care about your country.
I know how proud you are all the time with the American flag.
And then you are supporting someone that will be, like, not together with you.
Well, listen, the American flag thing, right?
I mean, in America today, it's, like, controversial.
I mean, that's like crazy. Now, I know Brazil also has a very patriotic mindset.
I mean, we just got out of the World Cup and you see the support.
Has that gotten there yet where, even within Brazil, if you were waving the Brazilian flag that people would say, what's wrong with this guy?
Because I see more Ukrainian flags in America than I do American flags.
Maybe not here in Florida, but certainly when I'm up north in New York.
It's the same thing. The same thing happens in Brazil.
First... We are not a user to have the Brazilian flag everywhere.
I have to talk a little bit about that.
My father, you have a video of him coming here in the U.S. for the first time, I guess, in 2017 or 2018.
He did a video in front of a house in Miami with the American flag talking that, see, here in the U.S., everybody's proud about their countries.
And we don't have that in Brazil. Okay?
So there's not a nationalistic pride in Brazil?
Now yes, now yes.
Is that because of your father, but it was actually at risk even perhaps before his administration?
Yes, because perhaps the administration, they are like the left-wing here.
They're not nationalists.
They want to, you know, globalization, let's bring everybody to our country, but they don't have the immigrants in front of their houses, you know.
It's the same rule.
I remember when I was in the Students' Action Summit with Charlie Kirk, I was talking to the audience that You have more responsibility here in the U.S. because all the Latin America, and for sure Brazil, we copy what happened here.
So imagine something that you have here, like a transgender situation, you know, this thing about changing the sex, neutral pronouns.
First here, then, now we're having Brazil.
Okay, so the U.S. is leading on that, but are there children?
Same thing, where children without parental consent are being sort of pushed by, whether it's teachers, someone...
Who's an authority figure is pushing this sort of change your sex at...
100%. The gender ideology is everywhere in the schools and this week in Brazil we just came up on the news that you have one to two hundred kids of less than twelve years old doing the synergy to change the sex.
Well, the number is probably a lot higher in the U.S., but that's even happening.
Because, I mean, I still think of Brazil, you know, there's a macho culture.
I mean, all that things that you're not allowed to have here anymore, right?
I mean, you know, if I'm a male, you must eat soy, you must have a testosterone below 100, you must be weak.
If you hunt, you're a devil.
Oh, well, I know. We share that in common.
We've gone hunting together.
I know, actually, a big Second Amendment advocate, and I know that's still something that's a thing in Brazil.
We have a lot to talk about that.
What do the left wing say?
Oh, with less guns, it will be easier to control.
You know, the criminals will have less opportunities to buy a gun in the illegal market.
No, no, that's wrong. But the notion of, you know, I don't want to call it maybe the Second Amendment, because that's the U.S., but there is sort of a strong affinity towards self-defense in Brazil, as well as gun ownership.
And that's being attacked by the left as well, right?
Sure. With my father, we changed some of the presidential decrees and some of the laws about the guns to give more access to the people.
You still have a lot of bureaucracy, and it's very expensive.
I can tell you easily, we more than double-sized the Brazilian market.
Now we have, for us, it's a great step.
We have more than one million shooters registered in Brazil.
We're registering in the army, the shooters.
So it's a market that was, you know, to buy an AR, there was a line of at least four to six months, at least, until you get the chance to buy an AR in Brazil.
We just started with a national production of AR. And on the other side, if you look for, for example, the murder rate, It came down, it's dropped for more than 34% less.
It's not only a drop.
I'm talking about 34% less.
It's the biggest drop ever in the history of Brazil in the numbers of murders.
And there is a... I mean, I think for those who don't know, I mean, Brazil, there's some rough areas, right?
I mean, murder rates are pretty high in certain parts of the country.
And so, I mean, so that's a huge statistic.
I mean, 34% drop in murder rate with the increase in gun ownership.
Now, I think we could...
Show similar statistics here in America, in places where there's high gun ownership, and yet there's a constant attack.
The highest crime rates are in those areas with the strictest gun laws and the places that make access much harder, and yet they continue to push that agenda.
It's logical, because the criminal is someone that thinks.
Before he does his crime, he looks for the risks and where he has the better chance to commit his crime, to rob or whatever.
So, if he thinks that you have a gun at home, he's not going to go together.
I know that you're full of that.
I know that you're full of that.
So, I would like you to make sure that in Brazil, it's exactly the same.
And sometimes even Brazilians come to me and say, Eduardo, in the U.S., the Americans, they have more culture, a better education.
They can handle guns at home and all of that.
And I say, man... Look to Uruguay.
Do you think Uruguay, they have a better culture than us, Brazilians?
Yeah. Because Uruguay, proportionally, is where you have more guns per people in Latin America.
And the rate of the murders is going down much, much, much better than Brazil.
Well, Latin America is an interesting example because I know there are countries, some of your bordering countries, obviously Brazil is a huge country within, but some of your bordering countries also have very strict You know, anti-gun laws.
And their crime rates are through the roof.
You know, if you want to go a little bit further north, it's kind of a disaster.
And you have a lot of countries that you can...
You have examples about more guns, legal guns, I mean.
More guns, you have...
Less crimes, like US, Switzerland, Paraguay.
Paraguay, they have very good murder rates, and it's very flexible, you know, the selling of guns.
The main problem of Paraguay is on their border with...
Yeah, so the statistics are skewed because there's a border war, or whatever it may be, but that's not necessarily exemplary of what's going on within the population in terms of actual gun violence.
Yeah, and the people are like...
They want to be male, do the self-defense.
Not because they think it's good, they will be on the news.
Because this is natural.
This is natural. What they try to do is put unnatural things...
For example, the gun control law that we have in Brazil is from 2003.
During the approvation in the Congress of this bill, it was one of the hugest corruption scandals, where the government of Lula da Silva, when he was president for the first time, they were doing a monthly payment for representatives and senators to approve all of the bills of the government, of the administration at that time.
One of these bills is the gun control.
So in Brazil, it's very hard to have a gun.
They slip it right in. They gain their control.
So you see a similar sort of attack on masculinity, even in Brazil, which again, I think of just, you know, maybe the example of macho culture, but they're trying to eliminate that.
Yes. Mainly by media.
Bombing. All the time, all the time, all the time.
You know, articles coming on the news.
Things saying, oh, look at this.
Oh, in Asia, it's becoming fashion.
You'll be like a male, but with family.
Like a woman. The transgender synergies and things like that.
Oh, the toxic...
I don't know if I have this term here.
The toxic male.
Toxic masculinity. Yeah, toxic masculinity.
Toxic masculinity. It's always toxic until that guy's the guy going and rescuing people out of a burning building.
Everyone's toxic until you...
I have a neighborhood that voted for Lula and I said, okay, man, if someone goes to his house and he comes to my house, I will not help him.
So, you know, just so the viewership understands if they don't...
I mean, you're one of the most popular congressmen in Brazil.
As per votes, that's not just me saying that because I like it, that's actual fact.
But you also have a law enforcement background.
So, you know, we've seen all that.
I mean, the American attack on just masculinity in general.
Testosterone is toxic.
You see the drop in the rates of people's testosterone across the country, and yet, when the shit hits the fan,
everyone's running to the guy with toxic masculinity to save their ass.
Yes. So I think that's right.
I mean, I think when I go into sort of all over America, I see real people and they don't care about that.
And yet it's such a talking point in the media.
It's a talking point in academia.
You know, it's almost as though there's no truth to it whatsoever, and yet people are bombarded with it so much on their day that it's an attempt to change their views on it.
And it's probably been pretty effective.
Have you seen that in Brazil?
Yes. And this meeting strategy, I mean, if you look that all the time, all the time, all the time, your brain naturally gets used with that.
He thinks it's common, and it's changed your priorities.
If I watch CNN for a couple days just to see what the...
I want to go shoot myself.
I must be a terrible human being because CNN, with their total bullshit, tells me that I'm a terrible person.
But it is.
It feels like so much of this, it's like a psyop.
It's psychological warfare.
Yes. No, it's 100% that.
They're trying to break our children.
They're trying to break our spirits.
They're trying to do that. I guess, I mean, you guys have been a recipient of that right now.
Obviously, we talked about the elections, right?
We started talking about that.
We talked about some of the similarities.
I saw pictures.
And maybe what we have to do is just, you know, flash some of them up in here.
It's unbelievable. Hundreds of thousands of people showing up.
And yet, when you talk about the other side, zero support, zero this.
So what's going on in the elections?
I know you guys actually have sort of...
And I've got to be careful because, again, I don't want you to speak for your father, right?
I understand. Sure, sure, sure. He's in America right now.
There's sort of threats on...
And he's been very quiet throughout this process.
Different than my father in the sense that...
Because in Brazil, things are a little bit different.
I want to talk about that system.
In Brazil, it's not like all of the Congress, which you're a part of, but you have to get together.
One judge can say, you know what, I don't like what he did, he's in jail.
Yes. Talk about that, because that's scary.
I don't know how you function in a system where one person who can be very biased can just decide, you know what, I don't like what he said, or didn't say, or even that he was present.
Your father's actually been very quiet.
It's all really come from the people.
I know, I mean, and you saw some of this.
I mean, there were reporting outlets in the US trying to say that somehow I was behind.
I'm like, I don't know. It's so atonine, but they'll do anything to create a narrative.
Talk about that a little bit. Yes, yes.
First, I have to be very careful in my words.
Not because people misunderstood my words with my father's words, but because in Brazil, in our Supreme Court, they are really powerful.
And depending on what I say here, I can feel effects in Brazil.
I'll give you only one example.
I would like you to imagine something like that happening with a senator like, I don't know, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Rand Paul.
Imagine if you say something...
And the Supreme Court says, this is anti-democratic.
You're not going to take office, you know, and start to work as a senator or as a representative.
This is happening in Brazil right now.
Yeah, and it's not just, like, the Supreme Court as a body, where there's debate.
You have one main justice, his name is Alexandre de Moraes.
He's like, what happened is, he's opening investigations.
He has a federal police crew behind him.
So all the orders that he is the one who will do the accusation, judge and control the investigation.
All in the same person.
So is he more powerful?
I mean, is he the de facto president of Brazil?
Some people say that. My understanding, and you haven't said this, but my understanding is that he's...
On the left. Like, quite left.
I won't even ask. I'll save you the headache, but, I mean, think about it.
You have a president, but you have one person on a Supreme Court that can decide to launch an investigation.
Now, we've had similar, right?
We had, you know, Adam Schiff was in charge of our Intelligence Committee.
He lied to the American people for years.
You guys got to watch even, I imagine, you know, Russia, Russia, Russia got to Brazil.
Yes. And yet, to your point earlier, if you hear enough of a narrative, well, maybe there's something to it.
There must be something.
CNN's reporting on it.
The FBI said there's something there, even if they leaked it to the New York Times, who writes an article that they used to then use as the justification to start something.
So, you know, has power sort of shifted to these people?
Is that sort of, is that man elected?
Does he just get appointed that position?
He's appointed by the president.
It's not even necessary to be a Jewish.
For example, Alexandre de Moraes is not a Jewish.
He was, if I'm not wrong, he was a DA. Or he was...
I mean, he was working for governments.
He was the... So the people did not put this person in power, but that person can decide to destroy your life or throw someone in jail.
You know, actually, by our constitution, he cannot do that.
But things are so crazy that he's doing that.
100% against our constitution.
And there is no way to break him, to stop him.
I mean, there is a way to stop him.
The Senate in Brazil is responsible to impeach The Justice of the Supreme Court.
But the Speaker of the Senate, he never opens, you know, this process.
I guess that's the problem, right?
They create that sort of power and they say, well, you don't actually have that power.
It's like, well, no, it's right here in the Constitution.
Well, you can't do that. And then it's supplemented and aided by the media who say you can't.
And then people run with it because they're getting a warped sense of the reality.
Actually, if you start to look, technically I say that Brazil is living now a dictatorship.
Because can I speak whatever I want? No, you can't.
Do you have people that are running away from the country?
Yes.
You have, for example, journalist Alain dos Santos is here and some other people around abroad of Brazil.
We had a congressman, Daniel Silveira, that went to the prison because he made a video talking bad words for the
Supreme Court.
Imagine that. You're angry, you get your cell phone and start to record a video.
I mean, if someone offends you, you go to a court and grab his money, you know?
This is what normal people do.
But this congressman, he went to the jail for nine months, and then he was convicted for nine years in jail.
But thanks God, at that time, Bolsonaro, my father, he was a president, and he gave the pardon to this congressman.
But all he did was question.
No, he was saying bad words.
You are this and that.
If you go to the streets, people will do this and that with you.
It was disgusting, okay?
But if someone do a video like that against me, I go to the court.
Yeah, you can do...
And that's sort of the way our system works here.
You can... You can be disgusting.
Now, there may be social consequences to it.
Yes. You may get cancelled.
But not going to the prison. You don't go to jail for the rest of your life because you offend someone or use some bad words.
Not even nine years. If I commit a murder in Brazil, likely I will receive a punishment of less than nine years in jail.
This guy, for words, nine years in jail.
Why? Because it's anti-democratic.
Well, so has that been weaponized?
Meaning, is there...
I have a feeling that if you said those things, you'd be in trouble.
If someone on the other side...
It's the treatment of me versus Hunter Biden, right?
We could do the exact same thing.
But the consequence...
It's very different. So is there sort of an unequal justice under the law in Brazil like we're seeing here in the United States right now?
100% like that. 100%.
100%. That's why the country is crazy, so polarized.
And our enemies, they take advantage of that.
For example, I see here US and China.
China is far away doing better things, all respect of the American people.
For example, if you look for TikTok, what is going on TikTok in China?
What is going on TikTok in the United States?
You know that this culture war is not something about internet or people talking with each other, you know?
Politics. No, it's a big game that is going on, and people sometimes don't realize that.
Talk a little bit, because I'm sort of shocked That the U.S. has taken sort of the position they've taken as it relates to Brazil.
I mean, knowing that Lula da Silva, I mean, very pro-China.
China's going to get in there.
They're going to own, whether it's your agriculture, a huge component of what's going on right now in the world is going to be controlling that agricultural economy.
They have billions of people they need to feed in.
But that the U.S. is sort of, oh, no, it's wonderful.
They're going to have those relationships.
You're supporting the guys that are going to help support literally what I would say would be our largest geopolitical enemy in the world.
And it feels like... We're contributing to our own demise under The fake guise of, oh, democracy, because it has nothing to do with it.
And Lula, I don't believe, believes in any of those things.
Certainly China doesn't, as evidenced by that.
And yet, the American press, the Democrats in power, have no interest calling out sort of the lack of democracy in China.
You know, it's fine as long as we're getting a widget for one cent cheaper.
It doesn't matter if they put the Uyghur Muslims in concentration camps over there and slave labor and all these things.
You know, America, corporate America, corporate media, very silent.
And that we would enable them to get that kind of foothold.
You see the same in Mexico, by the way, where China is coming in and they can talk about getting into the cellular networks.
That's not going to come over to the United States in time.
We're letting our enemies get in.
It's happening here in the U.S. It's happening here.
But the difference with Brazil is because it takes more time here.
Because here you have...
You have a Republican Party, you have freedom, at least now, not that much, but you still have, you know, kind of freedom on the internet, you have Heritage Foundation, you have, you know, you have other players and solid tools to fight back against that.
In Brazil, we have nothing.
We have Bolsonaro and the people.
That's why if you kill Bolsonaro, if you take him out of the game, there is no one, there's no leadership to come again and lead this movement.
That's, I think, a big part.
I think the same thing with Trump, right?
There's no one else that inspired sort of the people that way.
And if you put all your fire on that person, you take them out, then the others become afraid.
You know, my big thing on the show is, you know, become unafraid.
Become uncancellable.
But the only way we do that is if we unite.
Someone like your father who is able to unite those people.
And like I said, and numbers like I've probably never seen.
And I've seen some pretty impressive stuff in the U.S. with my father and what he's been able to do.
But, you know, you look at the streets of Rio and it's like, oh my God.
And that's a city that's going to probably be more liberal than if you took the outskirts.
Right? Is that the idea?
To take out the guy that's the leader, to demoralize the population, make them feel hopeless?
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
For example, when they censorship a congressman like me, all the others will think like, man, if the son of the president, he can't go to the internet and talk whatever he wants.
And by our constitution, I have immunity.
I can say whatever I want.
In our Constitution, I have the Article 51 where it's written that congressmen and senators, they can abide their opinion votes and words, whatever.
No punishment for them because of that.
But if they start to censor me because of that, imagine all the others, you know, regular citizens.
Well, I think that's the idea. You can say what you want, but if they copy what you say, are they going to jail?
They can. They can.
Okay, so that's actually happening.
I mean, we saw, you know, during...
And I think the protests...
If you start to copy what I am saying...
Yes. Yes, yes, yes.
So you have immunity as a congressman.
You could be 100% right if they say that they can be punished severely.
Yeah, by our law, it can happen.
It can happen by our law. Here's the free speech for everybody.
Yeah, but not really. I mean, it's by the Constitution in theory.
Yeah, in theory. But again, I think there's sort of that inequal justice under the law.
We saw people January 6th.
Obviously, violent people, there's a line.
But there are people January 6th in the United States that were peaceful.
Yes. I'm watching that.
You see it. Actually, one of the interesting things, sidebar, that I had in my interview with Kevin McCarthy is he's looking.
I didn't even get to it in the talk because we went for like an hour and I was like, oh crap, we're running out of time.
But he was actually saying, they're looking for the video because they want to release all the video.
Because there are people that went in jail that I'm watching them.
There's velvet ropes. They're taking selfies.
They don't even know that they're not supposed to be there.
Some of those people were in jail.
If you had communications...
It's the same situation in Brazil.
So are they jailing your father's supporters, the people who...
And again, we have to make the distinction.
I don't think we can say, if you are a violent protester, it's for good cause.
We have to draw a line and have that sort of level of decency.
But are there people that were peaceful, that were protesting, that were thrown in jail?
And when everything happened in Brazil, it was January 8th, Hundreds and hundreds of people went to the police station, you know, to the procediment.
But as you had a bunch of people, it took a couple of days to do that.
And during this couple of days, you had, like, kids inside of this mess.
You had, like, women, older people, like, needing going to the hospital and all of that.
And my question is, usually the left-wing, they protect so much a drug dealer, for example.
It would never...
Happened with a drug dealer or a murder, but it's happening with people that were there and you're right like well We never expect that something like that would happen people that were camping in front of the military headquarters and They just don't know that things were happening now.
They're facing a process They are sued in a court some of them they are in jail nowadays And it's like Iran other day I saw news from Iran like more than 1,000 people going to the jail and I said man What a mess in Iran and now is what a mess in Brazil Because, okay, people who break everything, we will not defend this kind of people.
Okay, they have to face a judge and be responsible about their behavior.
But also a reasonable punishment.
And I think we saw during what the media dubbed the Summer of Love in 2020, where Antifa...
Burned down cities. Literally took over, I mean, took over blocks of cities, controlled them, destroyed businesses, looting, murder, arson, and they were mostly peaceful protests.
Yes. There was literally almost, I'm not even aware of any consequence.
And yet someone on January 6, two years later, could still be in jail for being peaceful.
That's what's sort of scary.
It's crazy. They don't care about the reality.
So what would your message be to either Lula or that government about what's going on right now?
I mean, because I don't know. It's hard for people to have any faith in a system if this happens.
Now, maybe they don't care. I mean, I think the Marxists have made it very clear.
They don't care what the people really think.
If they hold on to the power, it's a problem.
But what do you say, A, to the people?
You know, who are victims of this right now, and what would you say to an administration that's jailing people for For protesting.
Again, we're making the distinction of those who are peaceful.
First, we have to expose what is going on.
If you don't have a chance to use the cameras or talk with people around you about what really is going on, they will do whatever they want.
So first step, they say that we are nazists, facists, we are against black people.
Everyone's a Nazi, fascist, homophobe, misogynist.
It doesn't have to do anything with those things.
Who would protect? Who would care about someone like that?
So, if you don't care about this kind of people, they can do whatever they want.
So, first thing, we have to prove that we are not, for sure, nazist, facist, or whatever they say.
And we have to clarify that.
And one other thing, that we have to stop to be immediatist.
Some people, they want to fix things for, you know, for tomorrow.
Take it easy, man. Take it easy.
You're up against big systems.
People don't understand that. They think you can get instant, you know, they saw it here.
Why didn't your dad do this?
It's like, well, because he's working against even the Republicans in some cases.
Why wasn't the wall built immediately?
Well, because Paul Ryan didn't want to take on the left.
He had an easy existence in Washington, D.C. He's weak.
Weak. You can't have one strong guy and everyone else weak.
One person can't move.
You need everyone to sort of join that system.
So that sort of expecting immediate results.
Sure, we wanted to do these things.
We had the ability. But you can't do it alone.
Very few people see this thing.
The game behind the scenes, the politics articulation and all of that.
They really think that everything depends on one guy, the president.
And it's not really like that.
And we saw how important it was Bolsonaro's administration because he showed it to the people.
He exposed the system in Brazil.
If it was Lula da Silva doing the same thing, it would never happen even 10% what happened against Bolsonaro.
I mean, what the system made against Bolsonaro.
The media, the press, the courts, the Congress sometimes, and all of that.
So now you know what is going on.
Now you are much more clarified about How to vote, how to campaign.
That is not all about politics.
You also have to take care about schools.
Get your son and look at the books, what he's having in this school.
When I see some of the material that people send me now, because now that I'm loud and I'm out...
I mean, I saw...
Someone sent me a video last week.
It was about a book in his kid's library.
He's five years old. A is for activist.
A was for acrobat before, but now it's for activist.
Because every five-year-old, they're trying to grab them so early.
So it's 100% right.
You need to get the common sense to everyone.
It can't be one person.
Explain your election process and what happened.
Because you actually have some things in Brazil That are common sense things that we'd like here.
Right now, you know, it's almost impossible, I think, win a national election right now in America until we start playing the game of the Democrats.
They have a two-month-long, you know, election day.
We have one-day paper ballot.
So, of course, it's crazy.
But you do have...
You know, ID rules, you do have same-day voting, you have some of those things, but the election process still, in your opinion, and that of many Brazilians is still total nonsense.
Explain that in Brazil, and was it stolen?
How happened in Brazil? Every first Sunday of October, in 44 years, you go vote.
For the Congress, for the Senate, for the President.
So from 8am until 5pm, you have to go by your own.
On the electoral station and vote.
You present your ID with a picture.
So it's not any kind of ID. You need a picture in ID. You show to the worker there and then you go vote.
When you vote in Brazil, you use machines.
Then start the problem.
Because you use machines and there is no way to audit that.
So how can I make sure that...
I voted for Bolsonaro and my vote will be counted in the central in Brasilia because in Brasilia they count, they count, they unify.
So it all goes back to a centralized system that then does the tabulation?
Yes, yes, yes.
Kind of that. Okay.
So when you finish at 5 p.m.
when you finish and you close the electoral session, this machine prints.
You know, with the amount of votes of every candidate.
So you have there, J. Bolsonaro, 30 votes.
Lula, 10 votes. And the other guys, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So what starts to happen in Brazil?
We have people saying that, okay, I went to this electoral station.
To that machine. To that machine.
I voted in Bolsonaro.
But in the end of the day, you see Bolsonaro zero votes.
This is a problem. And how can she prove that she voted in Bolsonaro or whatever?
She can't. The maximum that she can do is ask for the electoral superior court to open an investigation.
And they're not going to do anything. Nothing happens.
So that's like our system, right? No, nothing happens, no.
They censor people that start to talk about elections.
It's forbidden in Brazil to talk about elections.
Forbidden. If I start to talk about elections in Brazil, all my social media, my Instagram, my Twitter, my Facebook goes down.
100%. So is that mandated by the government or is that mandated by, I mean, are the social media companies, which wouldn't surprise me even a little bit, are they playing game with the government?
Well, this person's talking about election fraud.
Even if they're saying, hey, this machine, and I guess that's what you're saying.
This is up to the Supreme Court.
Because in Brazil, you have two courts, the Supreme Court and the Electoral, I would say Electoral Court, all right?
Three of the justices of the Supreme Court, they are part of the Electoral Court.
That's why Alexandre de Moraes is a justice of the Supreme Court, but he is also on the head of the Electoral Court.
Then comes the problem. Because here you think you are in a bad situation because the big tech censorship in Brazil is not only the big tech.
You also have the courts.
And he has the power. He gave it to him by himself in a resolution that he signed.
So not from the people. The people didn't vote for this.
He's just unilaterally declaring I am God.
Yes, yes in elections. Yes, and when in this resolution that
That he signed it says that he has the power to block to cancel and to find people
we felt that It's not necessary even a DA or someone asking to do that,
you know One person. He's the judge, one person.
He accuses, and he does need a DA, you know, to do, you know, on the other part, ask him to do that.
He'll watch, you know, he sees on social media, he does not like this tweet or this post.
And he blocked the guy. It happened with the most voted congressman in this last election, Nicolas Ferreira.
He's a congressman? Yes.
Who was just shut off of...
Most voted congressman of this last election in Brazil.
So the number one vote-getter.
Yes. So one of the most popular politicians in Brazil was just shut down unilaterally...
And he doesn't know why.
Are the tech companies playing along?
I mean, the tech companies will say, okay...
This is a very good point, and I would like to invite all the Americans to do our research about that.
Because Meta, you know, the Facebook and Instagram owner, they have a partnership with the Electoral Court.
So they are working together in all of this role.
That doesn't surprise me. This is something that maybe your Congress here in the U.S. could ask.
You know, sometimes we see on television, like Mark Zuckerberg and some people from these platforms going to the Senate.
And this is a very good question to do to them.
How was the work together with the electoral court?
Because, clearly, they're working together for censorship.
Yeah, and it's, you know, it's interesting because it's like one of those things where they have the then ability, no, no, no, we're working with the person who's nominated to do this, and he says it.
I'm like, yeah, but if it's one person on the other side that has total power, they're judge, jury, and executioner.
Yes. It's like those guys get their...
They check the box.
Everything's great. Even if it's total nonsense.
So, I mean, when you talk about the people that said, well, there were zero votes for Bolsonaro from this machine, and yet there's tens of thousands of people that said, no, but we voted here.
How prevalent was that?
That's why people got angry.
That's why. There is no answer for this question.
I'm talking to you about one of the cases.
Was this something that happened in...
Every district, every area, where they just said, hey man, it feels weird.
I was in line. Everyone had a Bolsonaro shirt on or...
They say, they say, they usually say, it's okay.
Probably the voter, he misunderstood the process and he didn't vote for Bolsonaro for some reason.
But you have a lot of cases like that.
For example, you have some, on the north of the country, you have some machines where you had zero votes for Bolsonaro, and you have more than 50 votes for congressman candidates of my party.
Can you imagine that? The guy is voting for Ted Cruz and not for Trump or, I don't know, for the candidate of the Republican Party.
By the way, we saw a lot of that also, which is they're voting right down the Republican ticket, but they...
They forgot to vote for president, strangely enough.
And usually it's more common than the opposite happens.
Of course it is. They vote for president, but they don't care about...
But we have a similar process, right?
Where you sue. Well, you don't have standing.
Well, what? You mean the guy that's in the election?
Well, you don't have standing now because he should have done it before.
It's like, well, how do we do it before if we don't know?
You know, those are the games that have been playing.
And so it's funny how similar...
The process is, whether in Brazil, whether it's the indoctrination of the children, whether it's sort of the push towards, you know, trans.
And again, if you're 25 and you want to be trans, if you want to become trans, I don't give a shit.
It's probably not your thing.
Maybe it's yours. I don't care.
It's when you're pushing a three-year-old to do it.
You know, now, you know, what I've seen interesting, again, that you have the push for Brazil and China and America helping it along.
But I think what's perhaps even scarier for me is I'm actually seeing your father's here.
In the United States right now, he's actually in Florida.
And I see a lot of...
Perhaps there's a fear component of that, right?
I'm seeing Democrats that literally want to extradite him back to Brazil to face possible prosecution.
Now, he's actually been quiet in this process.
His supporters have been very loud because they believe...
It doesn't matter what he says.
Tweet and such a post.
This is all of the left wing they want to involve him in this January 8th thing.
Correct. That's why, like...
So he's been silent, but there are still people in America.
I'm watching the Democrats. We must extradite him to face prosecution.
What did he do? He has supporters that believe in him.
You have people that, you know, don't believe your lying eyes, right?
You know one of the main accusations?
What's that? It's about genocide because the amount of people that died during the pandemic.
They want to say that the president is responsible for that.
So they want to try him for genocide.
Yeah, sure. That shows you, but the fact that there are Democrats in America now calling for him to be extradited, right?
We have people, everyone gets asylum in the United States, as long as they have no education, they need to be dependent on government, they come across the southern border, it doesn't matter if you're a terrorist, we'll probably give you asylum, who cares?
This is crazy. Who could actually probably use it, who understands is going back perhaps to a system that would punish him severely for actually staying silent, but just for being anti this government and being perhaps a threat to that system because he's popular.
We saw the same thing, right?
If you were a Cuban refugee coming here a couple months ago when you were actually being shot at by your government, no, no, we don't want that.
Because they've had a taste of socialism.
They've had a taste of communism, and they're not going to bring it here with them.
But if you haven't, and you just need that big government, well, the Democrat Party is wonderful for you, so you get asylum.
I mean, what do you say?
I mean, how do you respond to Democrats here literally accusing him of undermining democracy simply for running against...
You know, the socialist talking point.
It's not that they don't have a deal what is going on in Brazil.
They do have. But for this kind of people, they are so sick that they just want the power.
They don't care about the people.
They don't care if in China they are killing I don't know how many people every year or what is going on.
They want to be in power and they want to do the revolution.
What is the revolution? To do a revolution, for example, usually I do a comparison between conservatives and this kind of people like AOC. One of those of that was asking my father to go back to Brazil.
For example, you have a house.
Clearly the house needs reform.
What do we do? Okay, let's do the reforms, try to change this and that.
These kind of people, they want to burn out the house and build a new one.
And this is the problem, because when you do that, you kill a lot of people.
To see on earth what the social engineering that they have in mind.
Everywhere, for example, where you had this, you know, Soviet Union, Cuba, China with Mao Tse Tung, Cambodia, whatever, they killed millions and millions of people to do this revolution.
So that's what they are doing right now.
That's why they say that you are nazis, because they want to kill you, and no one cares about that.
They want to censorship you in the first step, but in the second, the third step, who knows?
Maybe now you're saying, Eduardo, you're crazy.
No one will kill each other, you know?
I don't know. I would never say a congressman in Brazil would be, like, censored when in our constitution we have an article clearly saying that we can say whatever we want.
So things are so crazy that we have to...
Take a break. Take a break and think about that.
It's not all about politics.
I mean, the whole Western Hemisphere is under real danger because of this sickness.
I think one day you have in the medicine sickness, you know, socialist thinking.
Because this is not normal.
Crazy, crazy, crazy. So we discussed, obviously, you have a sort of very political judge with a lot of power, sort of unilaterally, going after your father, going after conservatives.
Is Brazil lost?
I don't think so.
I don't think so. Maybe we don't have the answers to fix all of the trouble that we have in Brazil.
But we still, we are in majority Christians, we are in majority people who care about your country, and I think this is the feeling that is necessary to keep moving on.
I do, sometimes I look to the Soviet Union at that time for countries that were under the Soviet Union government.
If they would Give up.
Never ever countries like Poland or Hungary would be, you know, free from communism.
So, it'll be hard, we will suffer a lot, very bad things will happen, but Why you are living?
Why you are here on this earth?
You think your life will be 100% quiet, normal, and good?
You will work, take vacations, and do whatever you want?
No! Things happen.
And you have to be ready for that.
I usually say that during calm times, It's the right time to get ready for tough times in the future.
So tough times are coming.
Do not scare. Be intelligent.
Be smart. That's the part.
We have to be together.
But we also have to be smart about it.
And that's what I see looking at Brazil.
I want to talk about the similarities between your father and mine.
There's a lot of people that sort of like to make that comparison.
I think there's probably quite a few of them.
Both have five kids. Both have five kids.
Some kids have gotten rather political.
You've actually jumped into that.
I just talk shit on the sidelines and rant.
That's also very important. I think it's similar, right?
If you actually get in the game, Don, when are you going to run?
Honestly, I think I can do more from the outside because I don't have to play by the same rules.
I can sort of make my own rules and if I say something too far, they'll probably cancel me every day.
Don't run. Don't run.
Maybe one day. Who the hell knows?
But certainly not right now.
But that's the big part.
We have to get together.
We have to understand that.
We have to be smart, but we also have to stay in the game.
Yes. I mean, it feels like their tactics are designed to demoralize, right?
A peaceful protester that goes to jail, someone else sees that, like, is it worth it?
Like, I may not love what's going on, but I also love my life, my family, my job.
I want to be able to do what's better for my country, but I don't know that I'm going to jail for it to just basically have I think your father, and maybe that's the biggest similarity, but I want to hear your thoughts between your father and mine, which is that they've been able to get people to step out.
People to become political who are otherwise sort of indifferent.
People to finally wake up and start seeing what's going on around them.
They've gotten such a visceral reaction from the other side.
Drove them so crazy that the other side finally exposes who they really are.
Once you see that I think this is the main point that connects our fathers.
They don't care about the politically correct.
They are brave enough to talk the truth like no one before did that.
That's why now I'm sure that not even leaving daily the American politics, but I'm sure that Americans are more clarified how it works, you know, the whole system.
And how unfair they can be against someone that put in risk this whole system.
This happened with your father and my father, and this is 100% something that connected them.
I mean, step out from the politically correct, you know, because they don't think, and think again, and then they talk.
No, they have, they think, and straight go talking to the people.
Good, good, good. They're always good.
That's why people connect you, Dan.
Yeah, people get it because they're like, you know what, that's sort of what I'm thinking.
You know, I used to get that a lot.
You know, be on the campaign trail.
Hey, Don, have you ever thought about, you know, telling your dad maybe not to tweet?
I was like, you're brilliant.
No, I never thought of that.
You know, when they call me at four o'clock in the I think people also appreciate that.
They see it because it's real. Yes, yes.
It's real. So what's going to be your father's legacy in Brazil?
Now, I imagine, perhaps like mine, It may not be over.
But, you know, what's the legacy of what he's created there?
Again, I think we're seeing, you know, perhaps in the world, you know, and similar to what we've seen here, but perhaps in the world we haven't seen that level of support from people to come out at risk and knowingly.
Understanding, I mean, you know, perhaps it's a little different here.
We thought, you know, the Marxists, you know, we'll talk about the Marxists.
Over there it was real. I mean, you've seen real socialism.
You've seen real oppression. You've seen, you know, essentially the dictatorships that exist.
So those people came out knowing that consequence was there or was real anyway.
I think we discovered that over the last few years.
What's that legacy for him?
What do you think it is?
What do you think he wants it to be?
And how's he going to shape it into the future?
I could talk about a lot of things.
For example, bringing water to the northeast of Brazil is a very dry region.
I could talk about the cut money for dictatorships as Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua and some others.
Christian actions together, international forums together with Hungary.
You have a bunch of things that I would talk about today.
The gun control, you know, giving more access to the people so they have more guns legally at their homes and reducing the murder rates.
But I think the number one in all the legacy of my father, I would say, is the rising up again with the feeling of patriotism.
Like people going to the streets wearing, you know, green and yellow t-shirts and the Brazilian flag and all of that.
The respect that will rescue again, you know, about your country.
I think this is the number one thing because people start to think, Okay, our militaries, they have a mission.
Our law enforcement, they are protecting this country with this flag.
So you start to get back again the sense of community.
And you only have good things to talk about, nationalism.
So I think this is the number one, if I could say, the number one thing that my father did, it is rescuing this feeling again.
Yeah, you know, that's sort of interesting to me.
Like I said, we touched on it in the beginning a little bit, but I never...
I never realized that even nationalism in Brazil, love of country, support of country, that's become a four-letter word here in the United States.
You must support the other country.
It's almost crazy to me.
I didn't realize that was at risk even in a place like Brazil.
I think of Brazil, obviously you think of soccer, football.
There's only 9 billion people that call it football and we call it soccer.
You know what I mean? I didn't realize that that was sort of at risk even outside of the U.S. Because the U.S. with their woke bullshit that's gone so far.
It's not at risk. We didn't have before Bolsonaro.
It's shocking to me. I mean, I just assumed everywhere else in the world, you know, if you go to Mexico, they're not cheering for, you know, someone else other than Mexico.
They still believe in that.
And I didn't realize that that was at risk outside of the U.S. I just thought we were so, you know, ahead of the curve on the progressive woke bullshit agenda that maybe we're the first, but that it actually was already...
At least somewhat lost in Brazil or no longer cool to support your country.
Still shocking to me, right?
Yeah. I didn't realize that was sort of at stake.
Yeah, but yes, it's part of the left-wing strategy because they want to connect the whole globe.
I mean, connect. They want a terrorist from anywhere in the world to come here and do whatever he wants and he thinks that this is cool.
So, to connect all the world.
For example, you have in Latin America, You have on the head of a Bolivarian movement, Nicolás Maduro, the dictator, the narco-dictator of Venezuela.
His dream is to connect the whole Latin America, turn the whole Latin America, only one country.
They say in Spanish, the Patria Grande is the only one country of Latin America.
That's why when they say... Wholly owned and operated by China.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Sure, sure, sure, yes. Because, like, in all fairness, like, you know, these countries...
They have some oil money, but, like, the reality is they can't feed their people, or they don't care enough to do so.
One could argue either.
But, I mean, that's perhaps the big problem, right?
And that's what people aren't seeing, is that the reality is all these guys are very at risk to be on the take.
You know, a country like China, you see that all over Africa.
They come in, they show up with a briefcase of cash...
Now they control all the lithium mines, and it's very wonderful, and it's very environmental, except it's modern-day slavery happening in terrible environmental conditions, and we're supposed to pretend that this is somehow green and wonderful.
You are right, but the thing is...
I'm not saying that you are blaming China, but China is right.
They are playing the game very well.
The problem is why United States is not doing your homework?
By the way, I don't fault China for putting China first.
I fault them for slave labor.
I fault them for the abuses.
I fault them for the dictatorship.
You can fault them for lots of things.
But China cares about China.
They don't care. And guess what?
They'll do what it takes to win.
They'll pay off who it needs to do it.
And we're sitting there pretending like, oh, this is not happening.
And that's what I don't understand.
Meaning, I'm not condoning the behavior.
I understand it.
I don't know that we need to operate that way, but that we're pretending that we're playing the same game is asinine to me.
Yes. And, you know, watching them get a foothold, I mean, you know, Africa, they control most of it in terms of at least the rare earth minerals and all the things that we need, and that our own government is trying to pretend and push for the future, right?
Whether it's, you know, electric vehicles, the getting away from fossil fuels and all of this stuff.
I mean, yeah, that's wonderful, except there's not enough lithium in the world right now to Implement your green energy and fuel enough Teslas.
And there's certainly not enough for America to do this while China's taking control of all that.
So we're literally making ourselves dependent on those who have made no bones about it.
They want to be number one.
They want to control everything.
They're willing to do anything to do that.
And we're pretending that these are wonderful people, not calling out, while pushing an agenda that only helps them.
Yes. That's scary.
And I see the same thing happening in Latin America.
Yes, he's 100% right.
He's 100% right. In Latin America, you have a lot of countries.
I'll tell a story that maybe you don't know here.
There is a Brazilian journalist.
His name is Leonardo Coutinho.
Actually, he's living here in the United States.
He made a book talking about Hugo Chavez.
And one of the choppers, he was talking a story about the Chinese ambassador in Argentina.
He says that...
When Cristina Kirchner was the president of Argentina, she's a socialist.
Actually, she was convicted by corruption recently.
Now she's vice president of Argentina.
Because who doesn't go to jail for corruption and get a second chance?
I mean, why not?
It seems totally legit.
Nothing to see here, folks.
We'll wave a little shiny object over here and distract you from...
Fucking insanity. Insanity!
Yes. But, okay, so Argentina at that time, they had agreement with China.
It's something like China, they have a base, and they explore something about satellites or militaries, whatever, in Argentina.
Okay, they have this agreement, and the Chinese work there in a base in Argentina.
When the new president, Macri, which is a center-right wing, When he became president of Argentina, he said to China, okay, I want to check, and by the agreement that we have, I can do that.
I have the right to do that. I want to look what is going on in this base, what you are doing in this operation here in Argentina.
And China answered, okay, you can do that.
You can go there. So, only do not forget that you have this investment of China in your port.
You have China investment here, here, here, here, here.
And if you are going to look there...
Maybe we can think, you know, again about these investments.
And then the president says, you know, I don't want to see it again, you know.
Because in the first moment, maybe you think, oh, it's investment, it's money, money talks, man, it's good, we are capitalists.
But they're economic hitmen, right?
They do that, they get you pregnant, and then...
Now they pull the carrot away.
You have some opportunities, but you have some threats.
You have to make clear about that when you're going to play this geopolitics role.
And I have a question for you.
When Bolsonaro became president, you guessed for what country this Chinese ambassador from Argentina, what country he went for?
Brazil. He went to Brazil.
So China, they really play this game.
If there is something that they are really smart, it's these international foreign affairs and job politics.
And again, they're doing what they should do.
We should be playing a similar game.
But China, if we say something, I can't believe you would threaten our sovereignty.
We say, oh, I'm so sorry. They're doing the exact same thing.
But if you call them out, they don't care.
They call you out. And on a world stage, we say, oh, I'm so sorry.
We would never do this thing. It's ridiculous.
But it is also our fault, because we're too weak to do anything about it.
You know, we give them back money and aid, but we're borrowing trillions of dollars from them that they then control our...
It's truly sick.
So, to finish up, what's your message to the people of Brazil?
You know, how do they...
How do they stay involved in these difficult times?
I mean, when they're up against what they're up against, how do they keep that spirit alive that I saw?
Like I said, I saw at levels perhaps never seen before on a global stage.
How do those people, what do you say to them?
What would your father's message to them be to go forward?
Again, maybe we don't have the answers how to fix the whole country in a short time.
But something that I do believe is we'll keep caring about our children, about our family, about our country.
And these feelings that move us, that push us forward, it's what is going to be we win this battle.
Be calm. Be calm.
Do not get disperated.
The enemies, they also commit mistakes.
We know that Brazil is now, we have on our head, again, a criminal.
Convicted. Everybody knows who Lula da Silva is and who is together with him.
Full of people that have problems in the courts and all of that.
So they will do their mistakes.
You don't have money for everybody.
They are criminals. They want money.
And Brazil is not in a good shape to give money to everybody, just like Lula had the opportunity to do in his first and second term.
So, they were good in the States.
And they were ready to go against the streets and take him out from the administration.
That was supposed to be the last question, but maybe that's something you see that a lot here, right?
The other side buying their votes with money that doesn't really exist.
Meaning we're going to promise you every entitlement in the world.
We're going to give you everything. Hey, vote for me right before an election.
We'll pay for your college loans.
It's happening now. It's happening now.
Where does that money come from?
Does it even exist and does it matter?
I guess they get the win that they want.
They make the promise the next time.
They get the people to vote. No one ever gets anything other than probably, you know, depression, poverty, you know, a dictatorship.
But when do people wake up to that?
First, you have to expose that.
You have to talk with your neighborhoods, with your family, in the internet.
And when we have the chance, when everybody feels that now is the time, yes, then we go.
Just like happened with the impeachment of the former president Dilma Rousseff.
I think it will happen again with Lula da Silva and did not take that long.
Going back to the electoral promises of the politicians, he said that in Brazil he would pay and A higher salary.
We have minimum salary in Brazil.
Like a minimum wage? Yes, yes.
And now it's about 100 reais, like 25 dollars less than what he promised.
He promised that who earned five...
Who are $1,000 monthly, they would be released from pay federal taxes.
But it's happening the opposite.
So in Brazil, if you were like $300 monthly, now you're going to start to pay.
It's the opposite what is happening now.
So same story again.
And the funny thing is the mainstream media, they don't say that they are doing fake news in the electoral time, you know?
Yeah, no, it doesn't matter, right?
Well, they've chosen their size.
We've seen that here. We've seen that all over the world.
And, you know, hopefully we can continue to be a leading part of actually fighting back against that.
So, Eduardo, I'd like to thank you so much for being here, Matt.
Thank you, Don. Thank you. Really awesome. Look forward to it.
This guy's a great guy. We've spent a lot of time together.
I think we met...
Last time you go to Brazil till we hunt and fish there.
I know. Last year, I was actually going to go...
With him fishing in the Amazon, which I really wanted to do, right?
That was going to be an awesome trip.
It was right when Truth Social was launching and stuff like that.
I was like, I can't leave.
I can't believe it. It's literally a bucket list trip, but we got to make that one happen again.
Yeah. I have a gift for you as my backpack.
Can I get my backpack? Yeah, sure.
Hope you like it. It's okay, they don't have operation here.
What's not to like about that?
Who doesn't want to crap on communism?
100%. We can make this even better.
We can put the gold wig on the dog or the Bolsonaro.
Thank you very much.
Thanks a lot, man. Eduardo, great to be with you.
That was awesome. Thank you, guys.
Thanks for tuning in. Really appreciate it.
Hope you learned something from this.
It means, listen, perhaps the fight is bigger.
Then we actually thought.
It's not just happening here.
It's happening all over the world.
But I think as more people get that, as more people understand what we're up against, as more people get involved in the fight because of it, perhaps we actually do bring all freedom-loving, liberty-loving people together to push back against the bullshit.
And when we do, we're going to win.
Be unafraid, keep fighting.
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