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Jan. 10, 2026 - David Icke
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UNFOLDING BY THE HOUR | David Icke 2026

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The roadmap, escaping the maze of madness, which is what it is, we should know what they're doing.
We should expose what they're doing.
But if we don't see the big picture in which that is happening, we'll never find an answer to it.
The more we understand the size of the conspiracy, the more we find the answers to the conspiracy.
So that's the roadmap.
Do you think we'll ever actually get to the point?
Do they need to get to the point of an actual like one government that everybody looks to?
Or am I kind of right that that structure has now been built and it's flexed its muscles a bit?
Well, we're seeing it unfold by the hour.
I mean, the idea is the world government in the end will not be elected.
It will be selected technocrats and bureaucrats.
And we're moving towards that all the time.
And before I get into the deeper picture of the question, that's why, or one reason, why you find so many extraordinarily moronic people in power, political power around the world.
I mean, you look at Trump, you look at the Trump cabinet.
If there's a brain cell and active duty, well, that's the first I've seen.
You look at Keir Starmer's cabinet in Britain, you look at Keir Starmer.
There's a brain cell and active duty.
Well, it's the first I've seen.
And you see this around the world throughout COVID.
It was extraordinary watching these world leaders who didn't have two brain cells to rub together.
Now, the reason for that is they're seeking to get people to completely lose confidence in elected politicians because they want to replace them and they want to prepare the human mind, human perception to accept a non-elected government.
I mean, you know, you look at some of these people in the background behind Teal and behind Musk, etc.
And that's exactly basically the governing system that they want.
But if we can just look at this global cult and how it works, it's very, very instructive and certainly will explain why left and right are two, well, two cheeks in the same backside, you might say.
And if you could imagine a spider's web, which is encompassing the earth, and in the middle of the spider's web is a spider.
Now, that spider, as I go into in the roadmap, is not in this reality, not in this dimension.
It's operating outside of this dimension.
And this global cult within the human world is serving the interests of that non-human force.
So you've got the spider.
Now, each of these strands in the web is either a secret society, a semi-secret group, or governments, government agencies, etc.
Silicon Valley, World Health Organization.
And how it works is this.
The strands immediately around the spider, deep in the hidden, are the most exclusive secret societies.
Many of them don't even have names because it makes them harder to track.
And you almost certainly won't see any of those people involved in those inner, inner, inner circle secret societies on public display.
You then come out still in the hidden and you hit the secret societies we do know about.
You look at the Freemasons, the Knights of Malta, Opus Day, the Knights Templar, et cetera, et cetera.
And they are fiercely compartmentalized through degrees.
So people at the top know far, far more about the big picture and how it works than those at the bottom.
If you look at the Freemasons, for instance, the vast, vast majority of Freemasons are on the bottom three levels of degree in the Scottish Rite, the so-called blue degrees, and they don't get any further.
And they are basically a show army obscuring the inner core that's running the show.
So this global agenda for humanity, which we're seeing unfolding so blatantly and in such an extreme fashion now, is coming out of this spider, this other dimension of reality.
And it's going through the secret society network.
And then it hits what I call the cusp in the web.
And the cusp is where the hidden meets the scene.
And in that cusp, you find the World Economic Forum, you find the Bilderberg Group and organizations like that.
You find the Council on Foreign Relations and these other groups that we know exist, if you want to do any research at all, but we don't know what they're talking about most of the time and what they're deciding.
And also in this cusp area are the NGOs and the non-governmental organizations and the so-called think tanks, of which they are legion.
And in this cusp, the job of that part of the web is to take the agenda from the hidden and play it out into the scene through government agencies, governments, Silicon Valley, the media, corporations, on and on and on and on it goes, the World Health Organization, World Trade Organization, and so on.
And so if you come out into the world of the scene, at that point, everything, to most people anyway, seems totally random.
So you see corporations that don't seem to be connected.
You see Silicon Valley, where they don't seem to be connected in the same way as they really are.
And you see the World Health Organization and governments and what's happening?
It's confusing.
It's bewildering.
It's meant to be.
And it's what the hell's going on.
The point is that these organizations too are fiercely compartmentalized.
Because most people in the World Health Organization have no clue what it's really for.
It's to dominate and dictate world health policy worldwide through all governments.
That's what it was created by the Rockefellers to do in 1948.
And now a Rockefeller gopher called Bill Gates is running the show through this corrupt front man Tedross.
And we saw all that going on with COVID.
So these organizations are fiercely compartmentalized.
So if you go deep enough into the Silicon Valley corporations, you go deep enough into Facebook, you go deep enough into Google, you go deep enough into Twitter X, and you then go deep enough into these other organizations, you meet a point where they attach to this web.
Let me just stop you right there.
You don't even have to dig that deep.
Let me just go through those organizations you just said.
I mean, I mean, first of all, you talked about Facebook.
A lot of people know about the Total Information Awareness Network that just disappeared from DARPA and seems to mirror Facebook.
But then you actually do have somebody like Peter Thiel, who is an early investor, who's also not just the co-chair at Bilderberg up there, but he's also a guy behind PayPal, partnered with Musk.
So digital money.
You look at Musk, and Musk's the number one defense contractor on the planet.
I mean, the idea that he's like fighting the system is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard of.
And then you look at Google.
I mean, God, people, if you think that this is a private company, just because it's traded on the stock market, again, defense contractor partnered with NASA, was given the initial algorithm through the National Library Initiative from DARPA and NASA, have claimed quantum supremacy in AI.
They have the number one search engine in the world.
They have the number one platform in the world, Android, Chromebooks that are in your kids.
I mean, I keep going because the number two platform in the world search engine is the number one video platform in the world, which is YouTube, which they bought for $8 billion years ago, right around the time that they changed from don't be evil to take that off the wall.
So I know that was a short-term rant, but I mean, if you think any of those are private companies, you don't understand how the world works.
I mean, it's not even a lair facade.
Everything I said, their own AI will actually tell you if you question it.
Exactly.
So what you've got is your Facebooks and your Silicon Valley AI social media platforms attached to the same web that governments do, attach the same web the World Health Organization does.
And at that level, they're working as one unit.
Now, massive numbers of people working in those organizations won't know that.
But at the controlling core, they're all working as one unit.
Now, during COVID, we saw that blatantly.
You had the version of COVID coming out of the World Health Organization, total bloody lies.
And then you had the Silicon Valley social media corporation saying immediately we are going to censor anyone that challenges that World Health Organization version of COVID.
And let me just say something about that because I think that's key.
It's really not only just what they say, but the overall narrative that's being presented, not across just the WHO, but the media that you talked about, because there are points when they actually tell the truth.
Let me give you an example of that.
When they, or not the truth, but you challenge that truth and you get censored.
They said things like, well, the flu disappeared from the southern hemisphere of the planet and then said the northern hemisphere.
And then you would go to, say, NPR.
And I remember it.
They had 132 hospitalizations in the United States for the flu.
And the prior year, it was over 120,000 plus.
Okay, so you'd point that out that they're saying that the flu disappeared.
This was just, this was the side narrative they admitted to, but not the narrative they were projecting.
If you put that on social media, if you dare to even quote them in a manner that challenged the great narrative, the greater narrative with their own words, censored.
So what people would say who were looking on at this is why would the Silicon Valley social media platforms be censoring anyone challenging the World Health Organization?
That doesn't make sense.
Ah, but when you think that you go deep enough in the World Health Organization and deep enough in the Silicon Valley social media platforms, you attach to the web.
And in that way, they are working as one unit.
So Silicon Valley was censoring anything that would undermine the World Health Organization version of COVID because they're both on the same bloody team.
And talking of COVID, you remember how people from the big pharma cartel came out of the Rockefellers in large part as well.
How they were going to the drug enforcement agencies like the FDA and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in America.
And they were asking to use this, well, I was going to say untrialed fake vaccine, but it actually wasn't trial, untrialed.
They untrialed it in the normal sense.
Yeah, they didn't trial it in the normal sense.
But they trialled it long before to get the outcome that they wanted.
And we can get into what that outcome was planned to be as we go along, maybe.
But they were going to these drug enforcement agencies and they were saying we want permission to give this fake vaccine, not a vaccine under previous criteria, to lower and lower and lower age groups, right down to kids.
And they were getting it.
They were getting it.
And they were getting it in Britain.
They were getting it in other countries.
They were getting it in the United States.
And anyone, again, observing would go, why are these organizations that are supposed to be defending the public health giving this permission to this big pharma cartel for all these fake vaccines when they've not had any trials, at least on the face of it?
But then again, once you realize how this web works, you go deep enough in these drug enforcement agencies and drug defense agencies of the public, they say, and you meet the web.
You go deep enough into big pharma, it won't be that deep in that case, and you hit the web.
And therefore, you've got the web giving permission to the web to put this shite into younger and younger and younger kids with all the consequences that we've seen as a result.
So once you understand how this works, then you get into the politics, which was the point of the question.
And, you know, what you are looking at is a comparatively few people dictating the lives and the direction of the world to what we're told now is 8 billion people.
Now, you look at the maths of that and you'd go, that's ridiculous.
That's impossible.
How can a few people control billions?
You know, you're having a laugh.
Oh, oh, quite easily, actually, if you have certain things in place.
And these are those two certain things.
One, you have to get people locked in to belief systems, unquestioned, rigid belief systems.
These can be political belief systems, MAGA or the left.
They can be religious belief systems, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, whatever, Judaism.
You lock them into belief systems.
Now, what does that do?
Immediately, it builds walls of perception because you are not going to go out into the infinity of possibility and pursue questions, big questions, when you know that if you go there, you are going to be leaving your belief system behind.
And if it's a religious belief system and you've had indoctrinated into you since you were a kid, that this judgmental God will bring the wrath upon you if you go there, you don't believe in your version of him, then you're going to stay in the box.
And once you've got these belief systems that are rigid and unquestioning, as I've said many times, Jason, over the years, this cult doesn't care what you believe.
It only cares that you believe it rigidly and without question, because then they got you.
So let me ask you something, David.
Yeah, just very, very quickly.
The next thing connects into that.
So you've got these different belief systems, religious belief systems, political belief systems.
What you then do is you play them off against each other because the essential of a few controlling the many is divide and ruling the many.
And so what you have is this level, say this cult level, and it comes down into left and right.
And so one's left, one's right, and you have people believing one or the other.
I'm a lefty, I'm a MAGA, I'm whatever.
And they are playing you like a stringed instrument because in the end, this is controlling both sides.
And if you therefore look at the direction of travel, ignore the rhetoric, ignore the bloody words, they're easy.
You just move your lips and comes out.
Look at the outcome.
Look at the outcome.
So what you have, a wonderful example currently.
In America, you have Donald Trump, the right, using the left as the excuse to impose tyranny.
In Britain, you have Keir Starmer of the left using the right to impose tyranny.
And it's the same technique played out by different people.
And if we just realize that we're all the targets, all of us, I don't care if you're a Muslim or a Jew or a Christian or what, or a left or right, this is not about targeting Muslim people or targeting Christian people or targeting left or right.
This is about targeting all of us.
This is a global cult with a global dystopian agenda for humanity through AI that will give them total control even over what we think and how we emotionally react.
And while we're pulling, oh, left, right, oh, it's the left, oh, it's the right, all this stuff going on, While that's going on, behind that cover, this agenda moves on a pace to completely control the human mind, human perception, and thus human behavior.
And we've got to realize, just take a breath, people, and look at what is affecting all of us and what divide and rule stops us addressing,
which is that there is a global network that's seeking global dystopia by dividing us into warring factions that mean we don't see, well, we don't see the wood for the trees.
We're so focused on the twigs, we don't see the forest.
So, David, let me see.
That's the idea.
That's the idea.
Focus them on the twigs, on the myopia, and then they won't see the forest.
We're after all of them.
So let me say this.
First of all, I largely agree with everything you just said, especially about the pitting people against each other, the division.
I myself, religiously, I always tell people I am agnostic.
At best, I go, look, I'm 46 years young.
I barely know this much about what's gone on in my lifetime.
Forget about 100 years, 1,000 years, 4,000 years, whatever.
Again, a lot large part, I'm reading other historians' work.
If that synopsis, I don't have the cultural context.
But at the same time, one of my biggest questions, and this is before we get into the AI, and kind of what scares me a little bit about these people having this kind of power technologically over the rest of the planet.
You just mentioned that a lot of these people that are still in charge, they're generational and they have been able to control large populaces.
Just the fact in 2025 that we literally legitimately have rule by bloodline outwardly in places like Saudi Arabia, even in places like England where you can joke on King Charles and act like those people don't have power.
They have plenty of power.
King and queens of the Netherlands, we still have this.
It's still happening.
Why is it that with so many of these quote-unquote secret societies, at least outwardly, you talked about the left and right-handed path, right?
You see that in esoterica, in symbolism.
You see this occult bent constantly.
And even in something like the Bohemian Grove, which essentially started here in the United States in the 1870s, was a bit co-opted.
A guy named Bromley, who was their high priest, I have his autobiography.
I got a bunch of their annals, but he went over, got a lot of the Eastern mysticism, brought the owl over.
They have the cremation of care.
It's clearly an opening ceremony where they're in druidic robes.
They're doing a ritualistic sacrifice of their consciousness before people.
Why is there an occultic bent on these things, you know, as opposed to traditional religions in a sense, I would say?
Well, I mean, if you go deep enough in traditional religions, you hit the same thing.
It depends what level of the religion you're accessing.
My approach, Jason, over the last 36 years has been one of knowing, not least given what I've just said earlier about what we can actually see, knowing that whatever I know or think I know, there's always more to know.
And what that does is it constantly drives you deeper and deeper and deeper in the rabbit hole because you know that whatever you know, there's always more to know.
There was an ancient Greek philosopher, Socrates, who said was the effect of true knowledge is to know, you know, nothing.
And so you never stop.
And what I've seen in the not all of it, but great tracks of the alternative media is it's gone so far and it's focused on the political level of this and the level of Silicon Valley, et cetera, World Health Organization.
But it's stopped and it's gone round and round and round like an eddy in the river while the river flows past.
And that river represents all the vastness of knowledge that there's still to know.
And so what I've constantly done is gone deeper and deeper in the rabbit hole by asking the key question, why?
Why?
Keep asking it.
Why?
Well, this is how it works.
Why?
What's behind it?
Why do they do that?
What do they get from that?
And when you talk here about the occult, one of the things that I focus on in part of the roadmap is why these people, these elite, are into Satanism.
Well, paedophilia as well.
And that's connected big time.
But Satanism, let's take that.
And again, why?
In the early 1990s, when I was putting together this global cult and how it works, it seems a long time ago now, I found when I was researching these major occultists, elitists, players in this, that invariably it was leading to Satanism and paedophilia.
So it's like, why?
And then as the years passed, I started to realize something that made sense of it.
We can't understand what's happening in this reality unless we understand that it's being manipulated from another reality.
And if you look around the ancient world, not okay, you see pantheons of gods.
You've got the Greek pantheon and Zeus and all these others, and you've got the Egyptian pantheon, these pantheons of groups of gods.
But if you do the research, you find that these pantheons of gods existed all over the world.
Many of them still do.
And they are worshipped and were certainly worshipped in the ancient world.
So my next question was: who are these bloody gods that they were worshiping to?
Yes, they used different names because they were different languages and different cultures, but they were actually talking about the same gods.
So what are these gods?
Well, it turns out that they are these manipulators in this other dimension, which the cult is serving.
So then I was looking at how these elitists are into Satanism and human sacrifice, literals human sacrifice, not least of kids.
And then you go, well, hold on a minute.
In the ancient world, they were sacrificing kids, young virgins to the gods, openly, because it was their culture.
So how does this all fit together?
What brings it together is this.
This non-human force operating in another dimension, which interpenetrates this one, well, we can't see it because of reasons I've talked about.
These so-called gods, they're not gods, they're a bunch of prats, they feed off human energy, but they feed off a particular type of human energy, low-vibrational human energy, all based around the base emotion of fear.
You know, people talk about the fact that this cult uses fear to manipulate the population.
Absolutely right.
But it's not just to get them into a state of subordination through fear.
It's also because of what that fear does.
Now, again, back to mainstream science.
It's known that every time we think and every time we feel emotion and express emotion, we are generating frequencies.
We're generating energy.
And the nature of the frequencies relates to the nature of the emotion, the nature of the thought.
So if you're in a state of joy and happiness and appreciation and love and peace, then you are generating high-frequency frequencies from that.
They're not interested in that, which is why this cult and its masters are not interested in a world of love, of peace, of harmony.
They're not interested in that.
Don't feed them.
They want the low-vibrational energies of fear, anxiety, hatred, regret, recrimination, all these different emotions, that low-vibrational emotions, because they're feeding off them.
And so a war, yes, there are many levels of a war that create things that happen that are beneficial to the cult, not least divide and rule.
But a war at the level I'm talking about is a massive, massive, enormous projector and creator, generator of low-vibrational emotion.
Not just the people fighting the war on all sides, but the people back home wondering if their loved ones are going to come home or not.
It's just an extraordinary explosion of low vibrational emotional energy.
You look at First World War, Second World War, you look at what's happened in Gaza, for goodness sake, since October the 7th.
I mean, imagine the emotional energy that's been generated there.
And these so-called gods, a bunch of prats, are feeding off it.
Now we start to understand why these elitists are doing these human sacrifice rituals to these gods.
First of all, they know the inner core of the cult.
They know that they're controlled by these gods and they're doing their bidding.
They're terrified of them.
I've talked to people on the inside over the years of this satanic cult network.
They're terrified of these other dimensional entities.
So what happens is they, just as in the ancient world, so now, but in the ancient world, it was part of their culture.
They could do it openly.
Now they have to do it secretly.
They are taking someone who is the sacrifice and they are conducting the ritual.
This is why they're still doing ancient rituals now in the same way.
They conduct the ritual in a way that generates maximum terror in the victim.
Because terror is an enormously powerful, low-vibrational energy.
And so they build it up and they build it up and they're building up the terror.
And what then happens is that that terror creates a chemical reaction in the blood that releases adrenaline, very powerful adrenaline.
And when they are drinking the blood, it's horrible, but let's just face what's going on.
When they're drinking the blood in these human sacrifice rituals, it's laced with this adrenaline.
And I've talked to people who've observed this, seen this, and they say these people go absolutely crazy.
It's like a drug to them once they start drinking it.
And here we have the adrenochrome story before our eyes.
And if I'm looking at you and you are in a really emotional state, I can see from your facial expressions and your body language, you're in an emotional state.
What I can't see, because it's outside of visible light, is the energy that emotion is giving off.
Why?
Because it's an astral frequency.
It's going into this astral dimension where these entities are.
And they're overseeing from this astral dimension this sacrifice.
And they're feeding off the energy of terror that is emitted by the victim.
So when I was looking at these ancient satanic human sacrifice rituals, and they were saying, oh, we're doing it as a gift to the gods.
Again, my question was, why?
What do the gods get out of this?
Well, they get the energy of the victim out of this.
And once you start to grasp that, you know, in the first Matrix movie, Jason, when the Morpheus character held up the battery and said that the Matrix is a computer-generated dream world designed to turn humans into one of these, he was talking actually in an apparently fictional movie a very profound truth.
They see us as batteries as sources of energy, which they feed off.
And suddenly, so much starts to make sense, including why, throughout known human history, this world has always been such a shithole in terms of the way that people experience it.
I mean, I've been around the world many, many times before I was banned from endless countries now, about 31 or more.
But what I saw in Asia, in South America, in Africa, in Central America, and increasingly the West.
But what I saw was that people were not having a bloody great time.
They were trying to survive to the end of another day or the end of another week or the end of the month to pay the rent.
And they were in states of anxiety and trauma as a result of all of this.
Well, that's the vast majority of humanity.
Just think of the energy that that's giving off.
So let me ask you something about Because before we get into the AI, I kind of want to hit more of the esoterica just a little bit.
But you just hit on something.
It's kind of like throughout history, there is this eternal struggle of good and evil.
And out of anything that I actually believe in, that's it.
I believe good.
There is inherent good and evil.
Like some of the acts that you just talked about, via, you know, you talked about Satanism.
Whether you believe there's an actual Lucifer or not, these doctrines are extremely self-serving, right?
They take self-empowerment to not only a sociopathic, but psychopathic level when working with others.
Let's be quite frank about it.
Do you think that we can get beyond what we are as a humanity on this planet?
Is there always going to be an eternal struggle of good and evil?
Do both forces have to exist?
Right.
No, no, a lot of people think that that's the case.
You have to have good and evil and negative and positive.
Well, that's the duality.
That's the duality.
And the duality is the matrix.
The duality is the simulation.
It's not what it's like beyond the simulation.
So if we look at this from this perspective, as I said at the start of our chat, the body is basically a software program.
You know, we think that something that's biological is natural and something that's technological is not natural, is human-made.
Well, that's not how the cult sees it.
They see the biological as a form of technology.
That's what it is to them.
And, you know, how do we know what is natural and what isn't unless we have something that is unimpeachably, unquestioningly natural to compare it with?
But we don't have that.
We have what we think is natural, but is it?
Well, that's not how they see it, I'll tell you.
So you have the biological computer, which is basically we experience this reality through it.
Our consciousness experiences reality through the body.
And the body is the vehicle that interacts with this matrix, with this simulation.
And there's a body program running through it, which is added to by education and it's added to by the media and all that stuff.
But it's basically a body program.
It's a perceptual program.
It's a perception program.
Now, if you do not open your mind to the true you, the true I, consciousness, that body program is going to run your life.
You're going to think that you're having thoughts and you're making choices.
You're going to think that you're making emotional reactions.
And you're going to think that's me.
That's how I am.
No, it's how the program is.
And what this cult is terrified of is losing that control.
And it loses it when we start to self-identify with a completely different state of I.
And that is consciousness.
So instead of, you know, you meet someone and you say, hello, nice to meet you.
Who are you?
And they'll give you probably their place of birth, their job, their location, all these different labels of human.
They won't say, oh, I'm an expression of infinite awareness.
Nice to meet you.
They don't say that because they don't identify like that.
And that's all part of this process of keeping people's attention and sense of identity in the program.
Now, as you start to open your mind to tap into these more expanded levels of consciousness, first of all, this simulation, this cult, you know, is terrified of that.
But secondly, you start to see things in a different way.
It's called awakening.
You know, people say, oh, yeah, I woke up or I'm awakening.
Well, what does that mean?
What it means is you are starting to expand your awareness out of this body program into levels of awareness that give you a much greater panorama of perception of what the hell is going on and where you are.
And the point I made earlier, you can go so far and you can say, ah, this politics, it's all a sham.
Oh, yeah, the media is owned by the same people as so-and-so, and it's the globalists, right?
And you stop.
Now, what you've gone from is a little prison into a slightly bigger one that sees a bit more, and you stop.
And that's where most of the alternative media is, I have to say.
But if you let it go and you keep expanding your awareness by asking this question, why?
Why?
Why do they do that?
To what end is this being done?
You then start to expand and expand.
And then suddenly the whole bloody panorama opens up.
Oh, my God.
So that's what's going on.
Now, what they want to do is to stop people going through that process.
And here is where we come to the real reason for AI-human fusion.
It's to attach the human brain body to artificial intelligence.
So artificial intelligence becomes the human mind and perceptual processes.
So it will never consider maybe there's more to me than just the body.
Maybe I'm identifying with the wrong level of self.
Maybe I'm actually consciousness.
They don't want that.
And the AI will never think that.
Basically, what AI-human fusion is about is absolutely locking people in to the body program and not expanding beyond it so that we start to see what's going on.
It's absolutely the prison that this evil has been working towards all along.
So when you start to expand your awareness, I mean, seriously expand it, your behavior changes.
You see that all this fighting that's going on and all this cussing and battling for dominance and control, it's all nonsense.
I mean, my philosophy, as I think you said in the opening, is simple.
Believe what you like, but just don't seek to force what you believe on everyone else.
So let me ask that.
Let them make their own decisions and make their own choices.
But fortunately, we don't only have these belief systems, we seek to impose our belief system on everyone else.
And that's when the divide and rule comes along.
But you see, up to this point, because if you want to control billions and there are comparatively few of you, which is what the situation is, then you have to get the billions at war with themselves.
And you have to get them in a situation where they're so busy fighting each other, they're not looking up and seeing how you're controlling everybody, including those they're fighting.
And therefore, you are seeking to divide people all the time and into these belief systems.
Once you start expanding your awareness, you start to basically rise above it and you're looking at it and you think it's all nonsense.
What are you fighting him for?
Why are you seeking to dominate this person for?
Why can't you just have your own belief system and get on with your life?
Why do you have to impose it on everyone else?
And it's this level of the divide and rule that creates the divide and rule in many ways.
People want to be a Muslim, they'll be a Muslim.
If you want to impose it on me, I have a problem with that, mate.
Big time.
Same with any other religion or any other belief system.
And this is what they are seeking to do is to shut out this expansion of awareness, which more and more people are having, by the way, where they're starting to see the world in a different way, to stop that happening by connecting to AI, where AI becomes the human mind.
And you mentioned earlier, Ray Kurzweil, the Google executive, he said some years ago, he gave us a year.
He said, by 2030, humans will be connected to artificial intelligence.
And once that's happened, artificial intelligence will do more and more of human thinking until human thinking is negligible, which means deleted.
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