David Icke - What Really Happened on The Wogan Interview

Dec. 10, 2025 - David Icke

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What Really Happened on The Wogan Interview | David Icke

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	So see this t-shirt, it's turquoise.
	This is purposefully chosen and worn today.
	Right.
	Do you know why I wore that today?
	Well, when my head blew off in 1990, what basically happened was this.
	you know, if you're, you're minding your own business, you're getting on with your life.
	And then some, and you've got a certain perception of reality.
	You're kind of in a bit of a bubble, like, you know.
	And then someone comes along and pops the bubble.
	And suddenly, concepts, thoughts, perceptions start pouring into your conscious mind that weren't there before.
	And you know, if you press too many keys on a computer, it freezes.
	It's, sorry, I can't process this information too much.
	And that's what it was like for three months.
	And that's what people remember about me.
	In the middle of that three months was the Wogan show, right?
	So they remember about me that he went crazy.
	And, you know, in many ways, I did in the sense that there was so much information.
	I couldn't process it.
	Then after about three months, the computer unfroze.
	And I could see the world in a completely different way.
	And people were coming up to me and they're saying, I thought you'd gone mad.
	You're like, you're like the old Dave I knew.
	And I was outwardly, but I wasn't inside because I could see things that I couldn't see before.
	I could see between the lines, not just the lines.
	Would you call it a spiritual awakening?
	I suppose you'd call it that.
	Yeah.
	An awakening from the program, I guess.
	Although you awaken from the program and then you awaken more from the program.
	It's not just you awaken and that's it.
	It's a process as well.
	And in that three months, I became obsessed with that.
	Turquoise.
	Turquoise.
	So you see, I took the positive from that interview.
	So what I took from it.
	But I'm not obsessed with it now and I wasn't obsessed with it three months later, but in that period I was, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So I want to talk to you about the two Wogan interviews.
	Because I said to you, you've got a great following and you said, don't follow me.
	And I just want to sort of expand on your popularity that I've noticed.
	So I focused on when Wogan mentioned, are you wearing turquoise?
	Turquoise is the colour.
	And you said, well, yeah, you know, because it attracts light and peace and happiness and joy compared to other colours.
	I do like it, by the way.
	So this is purposely worn for you as a mark of respect.
	Thank you very much.
	So yeah, so this was purposely worn today because I remember that you said that turquoise attracts positive energy.
	Now during that interview, and you also mentioned earlier, because I know I've laughed back and forth, I've not been laughing at you, by the way, but just a few things we've said have been funny.
	And you're a fucking good character.
	But there was a time where Wogan said to you, they're not laughing with you, they're laughing at you.
	And you addressed the audience and you said, well, you can laugh at me all you like.
	I'm just telling you what I've experienced to that tune.
	So the first interview you had with him, the audience laughed at you.
	16 years later, you then returned to the show and his own audience at the end laughed at him.
	He said that America's become a free state.
	And you corrected him and you put your very smart spin on it.
	And it ended up with his own audience laughing at him.
	And then he wrapped the interview up real quick.
	That was a very...
	How did that feel?
	That was a very cathartic moment.
	It was almost like a cycle had come to an end.
	Because in the middle of that three months of, if you'd have asked me my name in that three months, I'd have had to freaking check, right?
	It was like crazy.
	And in the middle of it was a Wogan interview.
	So I'm doing the interview, but I'm not kind of here.
	And I'll tell you a funny story.
	While I'm sitting in the Wogan chair and he's throwing his questions at me, by the way, that thing, that quote, they're not laughing with you, they're laughing at you.
	He'd used that a few weeks earlier on a psychic he had on, exactly the same phrase.
	That was his pattern so, yeah.
	So I thought, well, I've heard that before.
	But while I'm talking to him, and of course, very early on in the interview, and for a Wogan interview, it was a long interview.
	And of course, for people around the world who don't know about the Wogan interview program, he had fantastic audiences.
	It was early evening, prime time.
	They all started laughing really early on.
	And I'm kind of dying inside because I'm thinking, you know, this is not, this is not going well and all that stuff.
	You said you were the son of the Godhead, didn't you?
	Yeah, but what I was saying is we're all expressions of one infinite consciousness.
	That's what I was really saying.
	Not wasn't a religious thing.
	But anyway, what happened is while this is all going on, there was something in my mind that was saying to me.
	Wogan's a lizard.
	No, it was saying, it's going to be fine.
	It's going to be fine.
	Keep going.
	This is going somewhere.
	And of course, at that moment, you think, I know where it's going down the freaking toilet, right?
	But it has gone somewhere.
	But you held your own.
	Eventually.
	You didn't buckle.
	Despite the fact he was putting pressure on you to make you look silly, you still remain storage.
	This is the thing, Liam, you see.
	And my takeaway was the positive message you brought with you.
	Well, the vast majority of people are living in a prison and it's called fear of what other people think.
	Now, if you fear what other people think, you're not living your life anymore.
	You're living their version of what you should be.
	So if you fear what the people think, you're not going to go outside of what they think is credible and sensible and normal because your interest is keeping them thinking you're okay, right?
	Now, I don't give a shit what people think of me.
	It's of no interest.
	I just want to know what the hell this place is, how it works, and why so many people in the human race are having shit lives generation after generation after generation, why there's constant conflict, war and deprivation.
	What the fuck is going on?
	That's what I want to know.
	And as I explore that, what people think of me is freaking irrelevant.
	You know, these people aren't, you know, things like X, oh, that's told him.
	Well, you haven't.
	I don't give a shit, right?
	So you've wasted your time, mate.
	You know, just take a break from your mum's back bedroom.
	You know, that's vitally important.
	So was that second interview like a yes, it's all been worth it?
	Because it ended very abruptly with, because the irony is, and it's funny that you say that, you know, you shouldn't care what other people think about you, because you clearly didn't.
	And I like Wogan, by the way, but just those two encounters you had with him, he did, he was affected by what people thought of him because as soon as they started laughing at him, he went, Jeremy, it's a David Icke.
	And he finished the interview really quick.
	I watched them both last night.
	That's why they're so fresh in my head.
	Yeah.
	Satisfying.
	I cannot tell you what a freedom it is to open your mouth and say what you think without go.
	And you're not saying, this is what I think you must believe it.
	You're saying, this is what I think, and this is what I've researched.
	And not have that mental gymnastics constantly going on in your head.
	How do I put this so they'll think I'm credible?
	How can I put this or what can I leave out so they don't think I'm mad?
	You almost go the other way.
	Have you ever taken any mind-ordering drugs?
	Once in 2003, I took ayahuasca in a Brazilian rainforest.
	How did your mind find that?
	Well, that was an extraordinary thing because I'd written a book.
	It was exposing 9-11 as the nonsense story the official narrative is.
	Oh, I'll have to get your take on that before we finish.
	I wrote another one later in great detail called The Trigger about 9-11 in 2019 that just blows the whole thing apart.
	Anyway, so I said to people when I was writing that book, I said, you know, if I'm going to go to the next level, I've got to get out there, not in some bloody dream.
	I've got to get out there in a conscious way to see what's beyond this place.
	So trying to get a feel for what's this part of.
	And literally, within days, I get this invitation to go to a Brazilian rainforest and partake in ayahuasca, which tastes a bit like licorice.
	So anyway, I go along and, you know, I'm talking there and a few things, but I could have taken this stuff four times.
	I took it twice.
	On the second night, I went into this altered state.
	And it's a funny thing, ayahuasca, because you open your eyes, you're in this realm, you're in this reality.
	You close your eyes, you're in another reality.
	The thing is, your eyes don't want to stay open.
	You know, you can open your eyes.
	Oh, yeah, but they don't want to stay open.
	They want to close.
	And when you close, you're in another reality.
	And this voice started talking to me.
	It took a female form.
	It's just a frequency, which I decoded as female in here.
	And it started to tell me over a period of five hours the illusory nature of human reality.
	And now it's all an illusion that we're living in an illusory reality.
	And it went into great detail.
	And when it was over, I had instant recall of what it said.
	So I come back to Britain and I start researching the different scientific disciplines, including quantum physics, to see if there was a human scientific credibility to what I'd been told in that five hours.
	And what I've realized is there's all these scientific disciplines, not least quantum physics, but they don't talk to each other.
	In fact, they compete with each other for prominence and for funding and stuff.
	And you realize that if you put the pieces together, they've already established this is a freaking illusory reality, but they don't talk to each other.
	So they've got a bit and they've got a bit and they've got a bit, but they don't talk to each other.
	But it was there.
	And I found confirmation of what that voice told me in the rainforest in early after the millennium, same time that this whole matrix thing started to appear in my mind as a i'm sure this is what it is, because the illusory part of human reality suddenly made freaking sense of the matrix and um.
	So I did experience that, but i've never experienced it since, because I don't need to, because I got what I wanted and and, and now you can research it with your conscious mind without going into some altered state.
	You had the female in your ear.
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