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Nov. 14, 2024 - David Icke
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"We Are Sleepwalking Into Food Shortages" - UK Farmer Gareth Wyn Jones Joins Gareth Icke Tonight
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Hello and welcome to Gareth Ike tonight.
UK Prime Minister Chairman Starmer has said he will not be telling Britons how to live their lives as he expands the country's drive to net zero.
I mean, that's ironic coming from a guy that's just released a bunch of violent criminals so he can imprison folks for saying stuff, but we'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
Chairman Starmer's comments come after the UK has pledged to reduce the country's carbon emissions by 81% in the next 10 years.
They claim that to meet these targets, the consumption of meat and dairy products will have to be reduced considerably.
Now, these ideas aren't coming organically from the UK government, of course.
The owl-faced fluffer of Schwab is simply reading the UN's Agenda 2030 autocue.
Like a good little boy.
Whilst I wouldn't trust Starmer and his ilk as far as I could throw them, I think he's probably being sincere in the sense that he won't be telling people how to live their lives.
He won't be telling people not to eat meat or consume dairy.
He won't be telling people not to fly or to drive petrol and diesel cars for two very simple reasons.
The first reason being the overwhelming majority of Britons would ignore him.
I mean, sure, you'd get a few granola-munching doom-mongers on side, but most of us see the human-caused climate change scam for what it is.
Just that.
A scam.
A scam to implement mass wealth redistribution and create a Hunger Games-style surveillance state dystopia.
And secondly, they don't need to tell us what to do when they can simply make it impossible for us to do it.
Government advisors are openly saying that taxes on meat and dairy might be needed if people do not voluntarily reduce their consumption.
Ah, okay.
So you won't tell us what we can and can't do.
You'll just make it impossible for us to do what you don't want us to do.
It's all very COVID vaccine, isn't it?
This is the true freedom that our forefathers laid down their lives to preserve.
Of course, adding taxes to food, air travel, to petrol and diesel cars, adding more and more ultra low emission zones will push many into line.
It's something they will absolutely do.
And to be honest, they are doing.
But another way to drive prices and to make meat and dairy consumption impossible is food scarcity.
And there comes the reason for the attacks on the farming community.
Farmers are the lifeblood of this nation, and indeed every nation.
Without them we starve.
It's a very simple and basic fact that people seem to be overlooking as they concentrate on the latest episode of Love Island.
I'm not a farmer.
Their problems aren't my problems, are they?
Okay, mate, well maybe revisit that.
when you're stood in Tesco staring at an empty shelf with your hands out like Oliver Twist.
Some are putting farcical political decisions down to incompetence, and I can sympathise with that view when it comes to the likes of Chairman Starmer and climate change czar Ed Miliband.
Brains of Britain, they're not.
But it is happening all over the West, and it's clearly being done by design.
Former Blairite Labour Party adviser John Maternan took to GB News this week to proclaim that Labour could do to the farmers what former PM Margaret Thatcher did to the miners.
Ruin them then.
He then added that small farmers were something we could do without.
Saying the quiet part out loud there, John.
It's funny that the hugely anti-pharma budget came in the days after Mr Synthetic Meat, Bill Gates, visited Downing Street.
That's a coincidence, I'm sure.
It's also funny that there's such a huge drive to prevent us flying, and we only know there's a huge drive to prevent us flying because the likes of Ed Miliband, Chairman Starmer, Bill Gates and co are flying all over the world to tell us about it.
How's your carbon footprint, lads?
And it's not just flying and driving around in diesel SUVs where their hypocrisy shines.
While we're being pushed towards bug gruel and synthetic grown meat, what are they eating?
Well, when Gates visits Downing Street, he's tucking into jelly deals, chicken parfait and pan-fried venison.
No cockroaches on the side there, Bill.
It's almost like he doesn't believe his own climate change sales pitch, isn't it?
I mean, why else would he spend 43 million dollars on a beachfront property outside San Diego?
Why would climate change, rising sea levels, what all gone, dah, it's the end of the world, doom pushers like Al Gore, Barack Obama and Jeff Bezos all buy multi-million pound beachfront properties in the last few years?
Seems like a strange move, doesn't it?
It's almost like they know it's nonsense.
And that the push to net zero is about destroying us and not about saving the planet.
Dig for victory has become don't dig for dystopia, unless people unite against it.
Now, with the critical year of 2030 fast approaching, it's time to rally behind our farmers in the same way that some of us seem to be rallying behind political false prophets.
Our next guest also joins us from Wales, Gail.
Gareth Wynne-Jones is a multi-generational farmer whose family have been farming the same lands for over 350 years.
He's long warned about the plight of the farming community and we're delighted to have Gareth join us now.
Gareth, welcome to the show.
What were your thoughts when you saw the comments of a former Labour Party advisor, John McTernan on GB News this week.
He said that Labour could do to the farmers what Thatcher did to the miners.
That's extraordinary to me.
And he added that small farmers was something we could do without.
Absolutely disgusted with it, you know.
It's one of them comments that you think it could have been a wind up or it could have been a joke, but it's really hurt a lot of people, a lot of people within the industry.
And for us going forward, them kind of comments aren't helping, you know, they're pouring petrol onto the fire.
There's a lot of farmers, there's a lot of people that are feeling very, very low as it is.
It's a difficult time with all the challenges we've got.
And then you get a numpty like that on a programme.
Willing to say that they want to treat us like they treat the coal miners.
And just makes you think, who does he think feeds him every single day?
Because he didn't look like he was hungry.
He didn't look malnourished.
No, I'll give you that, Gareth.
I think that what I found extraordinary about the comments, because as soon as I heard them, Gareth, my first thought was, OK, so he said the quiet part out loud then.
Because what he's saying there is what a lot of people think, that actually the government, in its various guise, it doesn't really matter what government, whether it be Tory or Labour, don't really care about farmers at all.
No, it's been a very, very difficult, I would say, maybe...
15, 20 years for the industry.
Supermarkets, new policies, new schemes.
We're devolved in Wales here.
We're at a massive crossroads.
We've got the sustainable farming scheme coming out.
We've got NVZ is out now.
It's one of the best November days I can remember.
October hasn't been that bad, but farmers aren't allowed to carry the slurry onto their fields now because the so-called diary that the government have enforced, if they do carry slurry onto their fields now, they could get a fine.
It makes no sense.
You cannot make rules and regulations on the calendar.
Every year is different.
This time last year, every single cow we had on the farm was in.
We've only got a quarter of them in now.
It's great weather.
It's dry weather.
We're saving money on our straw.
We're saving money on our fodder.
So, you know, we have to work with the elements.
We have to work with the weather.
But the worst thing is we have to work with governments who are, you know, putting draconian measures onto us as an industry, forgetting that we're the people that are feeding them.
And I think food security should be at the top of any incoming governments.
And what do they do in the first budget?
Number one, put a 20% inheritance tax on farms.
Number two, They've put tax on fertilizer coming in to the country after 2025-26, and they've put a tax on double-cabbed pickups, which the majority of farms will all have because they use it as a car, as a family car, and as a work vehicle.
It's just like an absolute kick in the guts to an industry that's already on its knees, struggling, you know, to pay its bills, The interest rates have gone up.
We've got so many different rules and regulations that we've got to jump into now for the supermarkets.
All these health schemes, you know, from red tractor to farm assured, you know, it takes time, it takes money.
And, you know, if you want to invest in new innovation and new technology, To produce affordable food, to produce healthy food, we have to keep moving forward.
But nobody's got the money to invest.
And for me, that's the heartbreaking thing because Keir Starmer went to the NFU conference in February and he said in that conference he would protect, protect the family farms.
And what has he done?
He's come out with the biggest bombshell ever.
Yeah.
Well, they say what they think will get them elected, and they have absolutely no desire to enact that.
I've found that in terms of politics.
I'm not a fan of politics, I'll be honest with you, Gareth.
They're all liars to me.
And I think to myself, until there's something in place that means what you say in the campaign trail, you have to implement should you get elected.
Unless there's a contract between the people and the government, they can say what they like.
They can promise you all a million pounds.
They don't have to do it.
How have you found the support has been from the public?
Do you think that the general public, the voters, realise just how important you are and other farmers are to their survival, to be honest?
I think that's been absolutely unbelievable, the support we've had from the general public.
I think the general public gets it.
And I think that's what's keeping a lot of farmers going.
That's what's keeping a lot of farmers thinking, you know, if we can get the backing of the people that we feed, it does make it a little bit easier to get a pat four o'clock in the morning to go milk your cows or go, you know, collect the eggs or feed your cattle or watch after your sheep.
or you know, or grow your crops, whatever you're doing.
It's a way of life, not a job.
And we want to feed people affordably.
The scary bit for me is, you know, with all these measures coming in, these draconian measures, what's it going to do bottom line?
It's going to cause food inflation.
Because, you know, that 20% inheritance tax that Another tax on the fertilizer coming in.
It has to go on something.
So what do we do?
We produce food.
So that tax will have to go on the food.
So who are going to suffer?
Are the poorer people in our society?
They are not going to be able to afford good food, healthy food, seasonal food, red meat, vegetables.
You know, this is the scary bit for us because we love what we do, but we need to feed people affordably.
And what are government doing?
Putting every Obstacle in the way of our industry to do that.
Supermarkets need to be working closely with farmers, giving them fair prices for what they're producing.
You can't keep cutting margins on the farmer and having your 90 billion profits at the end of the year.
That's not acceptable.
That primary producer, the farmer, needs a fair slice of that cake going forward.
Absolutely.
Did you speak with farmers from other parts of the world?
Is this something that, you know, you're seeing across the board?
Because I keep hearing people say, oh, you know, politicians are idiots, it's incompetence.
And yes, they are idiots.
But because it seems to be happening everywhere, it seems to be, you know, a plan in a way for this to be done.
Yeah, so there was a few of us that went out to a sheep show in the Upper Peninsula in Michigan this last September.
And we met a lot of American farmers out there.
Do you know what?
They've got a lot of problems.
They've got a lot of problems there as well.
And you couldn't believe the support for Trump there.
It was everywhere.
Everybody wanted a change of government.
They felt frustrated with the government they had.
I've got friends in New Zealand, you know, they had a tough time with their government at one stage.
Things are a little bit better there now.
Seems that they've turned the corner.
But look across Europe.
You know, massive, massive protests in Poland the other day.
Thousands of people on the streets.
Look at France.
Look at Spain.
Look at Italy, look at Germany.
Farmers are protesting across the world.
The Netherlands, another good example.
It's all to do with the pressure that farmers are under.
We need a farming food revolution in this world and we need to protect the people that are producing the food.
You know, you can bring in your build gates and your, you know, Beyond Meat to produce their gloop or their artificial meat in factories, but there's nothing like what we've got, which is something that has taken generations To learn, which is using ruminants to transport grass, which we've got a lot of in this country.
And we've got a temperate climate where we get a lot of rain.
So that grows that grass and we can transport that into top quality proteins, as in, you know, meat, as in beef, lamb.
And we can turn that into milk and cheeses, yogurts, ice creams.
Everything starts from Surfer Turf.
And usually it comes from the farmer.
So we need protection.
We need to, you know, understand what governments are trying to push onto us.
And we need to find solutions.
But there has to be a better way than the way they're doing it at the moment.
And that's globally.
Absolutely.
I mean, Henry Kissinger is, well, he's attributed with saying, some people say he didn't, but he's attributed with saying that he who controls the food supply controls the people.
Do you think that there's an element of that, that actually, if you create a food scarcity, then you can have some control over, because they're talking about, you know, synthetic meats, eating bug proteins and all this stuff.
Now, I don't know about you, Gareth, but I don't know a single person that would go for that.
So it feels like maybe are they steering us towards that by creating food shortages by what they're doing to yourselves so that people go, well, I can't afford meat.
I'll have to go for the Beyond Burger or whatever.
Yeah, well, Beyond Burger at the moment is about twice as much as your normal burger.
So yeah, they're losing that battle.
I think, you know, it's something that as a farmer, I feel frustrated because I want to produce the food.
To feed my family and feed other families with.
I know, you know, the food that I'm producing is of top quality, from the lamb to the beef, you know, to the veg I grow.
And I'd love to get more people understanding that by eating that, we are what we eat.
So your health is your wealth, but...
If you're eating processed rubbish and chemicals and all these EE additives, you know, keep it simple.
You know, keep it straight from the ground.
The less done with the food, the better.
You know, meats in a balanced diet with vegetables.
Keep the food coming to feed the nation.
So building a better Britain on our bellies, educating the next generation that, you know, these fizzy drinks and these, you know, the The junk food, I would say.
Put it to one side.
Start to go back to basics.
Look at what our forefathers did.
You know, obesity, diabetes, it's growing every single year in this country.
It's because what we're eating.
You know, it's not because everybody's sitting there on their backsides.
That doesn't help, but it's what we're eating.
You know, the sugar content in our food is astronomical.
Bring it back to basics.
Use the food that you've got in front of you.
Follow a farmer, understand a farmer and start to look at how you're feeding your family in an affordable and seasonal way.
And I think that would make a big difference to a lot of families physically, mentally and emotionally.
100%.
You only have to look at, you know, old sort of colourised photos from the 1950s or whatever, from like a beach in Skegness or even in America.
You look at the physique of the men and the women that there's no obesity.
It just, it didn't, it didn't exist, you know.
If the, if the, just finally, if the trajectory that we're on now doesn't change in terms of the attack on farmers, because like you said at the start, 15, 20 years, you know, this budget is horrific, but it's just an add-on, isn't it?
Where will we find ourselves as a nation in, say, 10 years?
Are we going to be at a place where there's rationing if it carries on?
Well, with sleepwalking into food shortages, that's a fact, okay?
And I've been saying that for the last three years.
It's up to whoever runs the country to steer the people that are, you know, on the ground.
We know there's new habitat schemes coming.
You know, the Welsh Government have said it's the worst state of nature in Wales with nature depletiation, losing a lot of the bird species and different things.
But they don't tell you for 25 years they've been doing so much of these habitat screens across the country, across Wales.
So, you know, it's them that's causing the problems, not us.
We're part of the solution to feed people and watch after nature.
And if we look at seasonal food, local food, my family's been on this farm for 375 years.
You know, the nature on here is fantastic.
We've got an overpopulation of badgers.
Nobody wants to talk about it.
We've got TB in our cattle.
But as well, as a boy, we had a lot of hedgehogs on this farm, a lot of ground nesting birds.
They're not here now, but I've got a heck of a lot of badgers.
So they're the predator that nobody wants to talk about.
You know, you have to take control of these things and you have to listen to people that are on the ground doing this work.
That's how you readdress the balance.
And readdress how we feed people going forward.
You need to protect the farmer because they're a bloody dying breed.
Absolutely.
Gareth, thank you so much for joining us, mate.
It's an absolute pleasure to talk to you.
And I see you around a lot on TV and online.
You're doing great work exposing what's going on.
That's amazing.
And best of luck with everything, mate.
Cheers.
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