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Sept. 19, 2024 - David Icke
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Fighting for truth, not money - Activist Monica Smit joins Gareth Icke Tonight
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Hello and welcome to Garethite Tonight.
It's been yet another week in paradise.
Israel is once again prodding Iran with a stick, this time by injuring their ambassador in Lebanon during a rather bizarre cyber attack.
The hack led to pages blowing up of Hezbollah Members killing or injuring over 3,000 people.
Now Israel had no consideration for where these pocket bombs went off or who they killed and injured.
Many exploding in shopping centers and other public settings as innocent people, including children, went about their daily lives.
Now the provocation when it comes to escalating tensions with Iran is a very real concern because Iran isn't the pushover that many arrogant commentators in the West believe.
And Iran also has friends.
Big friends.
But the main takeaway for me here is the capability that the Israeli Mossad and therefore other intelligence agencies have to blow up people's pages causing horrendous injuries and death remotely.
Because the world has become, or rather been made to become, more and more dependent on technology over the last few years.
And there'll be very, very few people, you know, maybe the odd frozen pensioner, that isn't walking around with a remotely hackable electronic device in their pocket or attached to their wrist at all times.
Billions of ticking time bombs walking around the streets that can be taken out at any minute if they're deemed to be a threat or a liability to the establishment.
Well, that'd be pretty obvious.
The state did it, I hear you saying.
That's a fair point.
But what about the electronic cars that more and more people are being forced into driving?
Oh, how sad.
He just lost control, didn't he?
Went off the road.
Yeah, it's sad, yeah.
Did he lose control, though?
Or was the control of the car accessed remotely?
And what about the other hackable devices that can be accessed?
Bearing in mind, the Grenfell Tower fire in London that killed 72 people in 2017 started, we're told, with a refrigerator.
So what, as technology has advanced on us, mainly in the name of the invisible climate change bogeyman, if suddenly everyone's refrigerators, televisions, smart meters, are accessible to these agencies?
An early hours of the morning blaze in the house of a dissident would become a piece of cake and your fingerprints would be nowhere near it.
Now this will sound insane, tinfoil hat nonsense to some of you, I'm sure, but then so did vaccine dangers, weather manipulation, and Jimmy Savile.
And we're clearly being shown with these attacks in Lebanon that the technology and the ability to carry out something like this exists.
So tell me a time when the psychopaths behind the wheel of the planet found a way to exploit their power over the masses and take out their opponents and didn't use it.
So are we going to see more attacks like this in the coming weeks and months as the lunatics desperately try to drive us into World War 3?
The chess pieces have been moved towards a major conflict between Russia, China, Iran and NATO for at least a decade.
And that's on public display.
So obviously, you know, far, far longer in the shadows.
And we're coming to the end game now as Israel and Iran are heading to blows.
German, NATO, warships have been spotted in the seas around Taiwan, something China's labelled a provocation, and the UK and US are about to greenlight the little action man figurine in Ukraine to fire UK and US missiles deep into Russian territory.
Now, any of these three particular powder kegs could go pop at any moment.
Now, if you throw in the possibility of a remote electronic detonation, whether it be in the Kremlin or the White House, then that would absolutely sign the declaration of war.
And as I said a few weeks ago, we're at a point now where absolutely everything is going to be thrown at us all at once.
It's not the usual attack on one front, you know, where people can organise, they can fight back against it a bit like they did with the Covid tyranny, but instead it's multi-pronged.
It's a war It's an economic collapse, it's food scarcity, it's energy insecurity, freezing pensioners.
It's Covid, monkey pox or whatever other nonsense the WHO comes up with.
It's the apparent assassination attempts on presidential candidates and all the chaos that's going to come out of that of course.
It's mass immigration that puts an unsustainable strain on public services, the public purse and community cohesion.
It's all of these things at once.
to terrify, demoralize, and ultimately crush the population to such a point that they will willfully accept whatever order the state suggests to counteract this chaos.
But this doesn't come from a place of strength.
No bully who wishes to rule over others does it from a place of strength and security.
Have you ever met an emotionally strong and well-adjusted bully?
No?
I haven't either.
They're idiots.
They're insecure.
They're unimaginative.
They're uncreative.
They're morons, basically, with nothing of substance to give.
Very much like a politician.
So pointing out what's coming and what's about to be thrown at us, that's not me being a Neg Nelly.
Do you know what I mean?
Saying, woe is me, we're all going to die.
A grim weather warning.
It's simply to say that they're desperate.
These psychopaths fear the population because they're so vastly outnumbered by us.
If they could control us by force, they would.
Let's have it right.
And they would have done that a very long time ago.
Instead, they're having to constantly battle, find new ways to keep us divided and on our knees.
Now, I don't know about you, but I would rather die on my feet than merely exist on my knees.
And if enough of us stand up and repeat the most important word in the English language, no, then we can cease to be led down this road to hell.
For me, personally, I'm not going to war because I don't hate my Iranian, Russian or Chinese brothers and sisters because the warmongers of media and politics have told me to.
It's not the Iranians, Russians and Chinese that are destroying our country intentionally, that are freezing our pensioners, opening our borders, teaching our children that they're inherently privileged and racist based on the colour of their skin.
It's not the Iranians, Russians and Chinese that are pushing gender ideology on our most vulnerable, drugging kids with puberty blockers that will render them infertile, performing life-altering surgeries on them.
It's not the Iranians, Russians and Chinese that are allowing establishment propaganda teleprompter reader paedophiles like Hugh Edwards to walk free and avoid jail whilst sending our citizens to prison for some spicy tweets and shouting at police dogs.
No, no, no.
That's our MAGA-infested government that's doing that to us.
The same MAGA-infested government that tells us the Iranians, Russians and Chinese are who we need to fear and ultimately loathe.
Well...
I'm not buying that nonsense, and I won't submit to this grand vision of dystopia.
Not for me, not for my kids, and not for you, and not for your kids.
Most of all, at a time when I'm meant to be intimidated into silence, all fear, fear of Chairman Starmer's loyal jackboots.
At that point, I won't shut up.
And neither should you.
But first, Monica Smith shot to prominence in Australia and indeed across the world
for spending 22 days in prison for sharing an anti-lockdown protest poster on social
Of course, that sounds like Chairman Starmer's Britain nowadays.
Since then, Monica has written a book toured across Europe and fought the Victoria government in court.
It's a pleasure to welcome Monica back onto the show.
Monica, where do things stand now in terms of your legal case against the authorities?
Well, actually, I sued them for a different situation.
It wasn't even the prison case.
That's coming up next.
But I was arrested three times in one day a year before that for no reason.
And I was working as a journalist.
So I took the Victorian government and the police to court for three counts of false imprisonment.
I represented myself because I was left with no option near the end there.
And they had a huge team, two barristers, two solicitors and an entire law firm back in the office supporting them and just little old me on the other side.
It was quite the spectacle.
But anyway, I actually won and I proved that two out of the three arrests were unlawful, at least.
I think the third one was too, but that's besides the point.
I won at least 66.6667% of the case, you could say.
However, there is a twist.
There is a big twist.
I was offered $15,000 to shut up, basically, and not go to court, right?
And I rejected that money because I said to them, the public vindication is more important to me than any money whatsoever.
So whatever you offer me, it must have a public apology attached to it.
And if it doesn't, then I will refuse every offer you give me.
Anyway, there's this thing in Australian law, it might be in the UK as well, it's called a quarter bank offer.
And basically, even if you win your case, But the judge awards you less money than you were offered to avoid going to trial, then you could have to pay the cost of the loser's legal fees.
It makes no sense.
But anyway, I only got awarded $4,000 for two unlawful arrests, which, by the way, is unprecedentedly low.
Ridiculous.
Insultingly low, in fact.
And because of that, I got a cost order against me of $250,000 to pay for winning my case.
Yeah, it's crazy.
To be honest, I couldn't have made this story any more interesting if I tried.
If I had just had a clean win, this story would be over and no one would be talking about it.
But even people who hate me are like, hang on a second, this poor girl represented herself and won and now she has to pay $250,000.
It's insane.
I mean, I'll be honest, I'm very rarely silenced, but that is absolute insanity.
Yes, and I do kind of understand why the Calderbank offers exist.
However, for me, it's always been about the public vindication.
And by proving that two out of the three arrests were unlawful, I got my public apology, although it was forced.
It was still a public vindication.
So for me, the result was far better after the trial than before the trial.
But they will argue that because I got awarded so little money, that it was a waste of taxpayers' money.
Well, let me tell you this.
Why did they need such a huge team against a self-represented litigant?
I mean, it's embarrassing.
That is a waste of taxpayers' money.
And they could have just given me a public apology and we might have been able to avoid court, but they refused.
Yeah, and the fact that they had such an incredibly large team and still lost.
I mean, obviously you've been vindicated twice, but it's cost you $125,000 per vindication.
How do you even begin to pay that?
I mean, not that I expect you to pay that, because it's insane, but how are they expecting you to pay that?
That's a quarter of a million dollars.
It's a lot of money and I think that the courtroom has this idea that I'm this rich public figure because I wrote a book and things like that and they really made a huge deal out of the fact that I increased my public profile throughout this case.
And that I enhanced my profile because of this case, as if I was using the case as a publicity stunt.
And I said, I don't want to be here.
I would much rather be on the beach with my family.
I don't want to be here.
I'm making a public point.
They really didn't like the fact that I was good at marketing the case itself.
I had supporters there.
I had 800 people watching, at least, per day.
And it went for 13 days.
Yeah, 13 days, and I had that many people watching.
And I think, I'm just gonna guess that they wanted to make an example out of me, that even if you're right, you must take the deal behind closed doors.
Because little girl, that is how it's done.
That's what everyone else does.
That's how the system works.
We don't want to publicly humiliate the police in front of everyone.
So get back in your box and shut up.
That was the message.
And also, it's really dangerous because it emboldens police even more to unlawfully arrest people because guess what?
Even if they did unlawfully arrest you, who's going to take them to court when they could be stuck with a $250,000 cost order against them?
It's a terrible precedence and that's why I'm going to appeal it.
That's it is and I'm glad you're gonna appeal it because I think if it if it comes out into the public arena as it is the insanity of it then surely you know people like you say people that might not even like you particularly are gonna go well well hang on a minute this is this is ridiculous I mean we've got a situation here in the UK which I'll come to in a minute because the UK is George W bunkers these days but A situation where you had people that had been in prison, so not arrested unlawfully as you were, but imprisoned falsely and spent a period of time in prison for a crime they didn't commit, whether that be years or months.
And then they were released having been proved that actually no, they were innocent.
You got the wrong guy.
So they then got a compensation payout.
This is 100% true for people listening.
They got a compensation payout, but the UK government took out of that, bed and board, for the period that they were in prison.
So they literally took out of their compensation money for food they ate.
I mean, I'm laughing because it's so insane.
Food they ate while they were in prison.
This is the way the world is now.
It's absolutely insane.
And to get your comment on the UK, so you're there in Australia.
We watched Australia for the whole four years, three years of COVID going Oh, you guys are cray cray.
But now you must be looking at the UK with what's been going on in the last sort of months with Starmer's government thinking, oh no, you've lost your minds now too.
Well, I've been fairly distracted, but I did have a week there where I started to see some footage from the UK.
And I must admit, I got quite emotional because I was in the UK only a year ago visiting dozens of different community groups, freedom groups up there.
I came to see you, of course.
And I feel like Australia and the UK, obviously, we are brothers and sisters, you know, or I guess you might say parent and child.
You would be the parent in that scenario.
But what happens to you does matter to us here in Australia.
And I got put in prison for a social media post.
And when I saw headlines about people from the UK, an old woman apparently going to prison for a tweet or something like that, I might have gotten that wrong, but things like that.
It really really struck me because I know the government is trying to scare people into self-censoring themselves and the only way that we can stop censorship is to make sure we stop censoring ourselves on our own.
And these types of fear tactics are going to make people scared.
So the only way to fight back against it, I'm sorry, people from the UK, is you've just got to speak out and deal with the consequences.
Now, if you've got children and if you're sick or if you're elderly, no one expects you to go out and get arrested and things like that.
But if you're like me, if you don't have children, if you've got a fighting spirit, you know, why don't you make an example out of the injustice and put yourself in the firing line?
I know it sounds crazy, but I did it and it's working so far.
It's working.
I've been able to highlight some of these injustices and the only way to be A really good role model is to do it yourself and show people that you're not scared and then hopefully they won't be scared.
So please don't run off to Spain.
Don't hide away.
Say your trick louder than ever before because it's needed more than ever.
Oh, absolutely.
And that's the same with so many things, like even the politically correct things, like here up in Durham, also it's Newcastle, sorry, in Newcastle University, they're trying to stop people saying pet because apparently it's condescending.
Well, anyone up there calls each other pet, it's actually a term of endearment.
So I look at things like that and I think it doesn't seem like much.
But it is, because it's still the control of language, it's still making you think about what you say before you say it, rather than just go with what you feel or whatever, as you should as a free sovereign human being.
So for me, I'm going to start calling everyone pet.
And I'm not even from Newcastle, but I'm still going to call people pet now, because that's what I think we should do.
You know, starting at a small level like that, and then obviously at a bigger level in terms of what you're talking about, where if you say I can't say anything, OK, well I'm going to say it louder then.
Well, you know, they take words and colours and rainbows and they take all of these things from us, all these words, like gay or whatever it might be, and we can claim them back.
That word, that's a bit too far gone, but you know the point I'm trying to make is that You know, if you're in a room and 60% of the people in that room might feel the same way that you do, but one person needs to say something and then the domino effect happens.
And so if you've got to be that person, just be that.
And people need to feel safe to open up.
Not everyone is going to have the courage to be that first person, but they might have the courage to be the second person or the third person or the 50th person.
Do you know what I mean?
So just start the domino effect and you'll see, it'll be powerful.
100%.
I felt a responsibility with that.
I've got to say, Monica, during COVID, I was getting so many messages from people that were friends of mine from school, people I played football with, whatever.
They were like, mate, I agree with you completely, but I can't... If I said that, I'd lose my job, my mother-in-law's a witch, whatever.
I'd lose stuff.
And then so I'm looking at going, well, you know, my family's obviously on my side.
I'm an Ike.
So I lost the normies probably 30 years ago.
And I work for myself.
So actually, no one's gonna fire me.
So okay, so I'm responsible.
I then have a responsibility to actually shout even louder, so that then those people can then maybe come in Not behind you as if you're leading a movement, because I don't want to lead anyone but myself.
But you get my point, you know, I felt responsibility.
And I think we have a responsibility now, as you've just said there, to do the same, you know, to stand up and speak and be an example.
Because it's all well and good saying, sitting there or writing on social media, we need to stand up.
Go on then, you first, son.
So but if you stand up, then people go, okay, all right.
Okay, well, I can stand up as well then.
And in no time, it changes.
And not everyone is meant to be that person who stands up either, by the way.
There are characteristics in a person who makes them the type that would do that.
They have to be a little bit crazy and they need to be able to handle the pressure.
But on the point of, you know, I just want to finish on this.
Well, not finish, but add to what you said is that I actually honestly do believe that the majority of people are more or less on our side with most things like gender ideology and that sort of thing.
But they're right because they're scared.
But when enough people speak up, there's going to be this massive crashing moment.
And I don't know when it's going to be, but it's going to be creep, creep, creep.
And then it will just be like a kaboom.
Everyone's going to be saying it's coming, but it's like those scales.
You happen and it's going to be really overwhelming.
No, I agree.
It's like a crack in the dam.
You know, this little trickle.
And then eventually it gets to a point where it's just bang!
The only concern I have with that, particularly with the gender ideology stuff, is that pendulum swing.
Because you had a situation where you had gay, bisexual, lesbians.
Everyone's getting on.
Everyone's fine.
It's whatever.
And then you start adding all these other letters onto it and you create this ideology.
And so you've got organisations like Gays Against Groomers that are going, like, we are worse off now as a community than we were before all this gender ideology because we're being tied into it, actually.
And so all of a sudden people start thinking, well, oh, OK, well, that's a gay bar, therefore they must be all groomers or whatever.
Do you know what I mean?
So it's like that pendulum swing.
It's like trying to That's my one concern.
The minority groups have been hijacked and they're actually victims now.
I agree.
They're victims of the agenda.
They're being used as pawns to prove a point and to divide people.
A hundred percent.
And then they themselves become a target as a result of that.
I agree completely.
Just to move on, in terms of your book, you wrote a book called Cell 22, this book that made you a massive... I feel bad for them, yeah.
This book that made you, sorry, your line's not so great at the minute, so I'm trying to, we're trying to blag our way through it, but your book, Cell 22, obviously, you know, they've claimed that that's made you a big billionaire or whatever so that you can afford to pay these stupid fines and stuff, but in terms of the reason why you bought, the reason why you wrote it, was it as much a case of obviously getting your story out there as it was maybe a little bit of self-therapy for you?
Because I think, when I speak to people that have written books about stuff they've been through, Part of it is actually about, you know, almost like just getting that out of themselves.
Oh, absolutely.
It's when you have, I actually told all of my secrets, like the secrets that you tell people, like a guy, once he's in love with you kind of secrets, you know, I, not before he's in love with you, right?
I told all of my secrets and it's actually really empowering to have nothing to hide.
That's why I can go to court.
That's why I can have all of my personal stuff out there because literally there is nothing that you can tell the world that I have not already told them.
And there is massive power in that.
So that in itself was therapeutic.
And then on top of that, obviously I wrote like three quarters of the book in prison and I had nothing else to do.
So it was extremely therapeutic to write my book and to have something to focus on basically.
And it is such a cliche story.
I went to prison.
I wrote a book, you know, the rest is history.
It's true though, I always think that scene from 8 Mile, you know the last scene where they're, for people that haven't watched it, basically it's a rap battle, it's a film about rap battles where they're trying to basically just diss, for want of a better term, each other and he comes out for the final battle and he spends his whole time on the mic dissing himself.
He gives up all his secrets and all his rubbish and what he is, all his vulnerabilities.
And then it goes to the other guy, the guy's got nothing.
Because what am I going to say about him?
He's already told me.
So you're right.
I think there is a real power in that.
It's kind of, no one's going to attack you then, Monica.
They go, all right, you're this, you're that.
Yeah, I know.
I literally put it in a book, mate.
I literally told you.
I know!
And they didn't use it in the court case.
It's annoying because they knew everything about me and I knew nothing about them.
There is something to be said about when you do wear your heart on your sleeve and when you are an open book.
It can sometimes backfire, but definitely not most of the time.
No, no.
I think it's important.
If you're going to put yourself out there as you have, this is me.
This is me.
I come with all these perfect imperfections, just like everyone else, and I'm also one of you.
I'm fighting back on this tyranny for myself, because I don't want to live in a tyranny, but I don't want you to live in a tyranny, either, or your kids, or your grandkids, or anything else.
So actually, I'm the good guy here.
Do you know what I mean?
This sea of lawyers, not so much.
And I think people will see that.
And I think from what you've said, they already are in the sense that people that even weren't on your side are still going, well, hang on a minute.
This is ridiculous.
Well, even some mainstream media are doing a story on me.
And so far, based on the questions and everything they asked me, they're being friendly.
They actually think that it was unfair.
And I don't think I've ever had mainstream media actually ask me how I feel about things and stuff.
That's never happened in the last four years.
So I wonder if this is going to be a bridge for me.
This story.
And it's funny because they thought that they were going to make a huge example of me, but it always backfires on them.
They should just leave us alone.
Like when your dad couldn't come to Australia, it gave him tons of publicity.
When he couldn't go to France, gave him tons.
Like it always works against them.
They should just leave us alone and we might like move on with our lives.
But no, they keep putting us back into the headlines.
So here we are.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, they're not as bright as they think they are.
I think that's the long and short of it.
You know, once you scrape the surface... They're arrogant, too.
Yeah, and to be fair, most unintelligent people are arrogant.
Because anyone with intelligence, genuine intelligence, tends to actually realise, okay, you know, the situation.
Yeah, it's one of those things.
But there you go.
Anyway, thank you so much for coming on.
And if it's okay, because obviously you're appealing, we'd love to talk to you again, Monica, further down the line to explain, even if it's just coming on for five minutes, to give us an update of exactly what's going on, because we'd love to follow the story.
Because it's so insane.
It's so insane that it needs exposing.
You're actually the first program that knows that I'm appealing.
Actually, no one knows that I'm appealing yet.
Is that okay?
Is that okay?
Yeah, it's fine.
Panic then.
God, no, we've not let the cat out of the bag.
I got nothing to hide.
It's fine.
I love it.
I love it.
Monica, thank you so much.
My strength and weakness anyway.
You're real.
You're real, Monica.
And that's what matters.
We need more real people.
That's what we need instead of this whole, you know, Instagram world of fakeness.
I've no time for it.
So thank you so much.
My pleasure.
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