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April 25, 2024 - David Icke
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How Cognitive Dissonance Gives Religion A Free Pass - David Icke Dot-Connector Videocast
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Hello everybody and welcome to this week's Dot Connect.
It's great to be back with you, as always.
Dad, how are you doing?
I'm doing good.
I'm keeping you from the beach, am I?
Yeah, I know.
I'm actually running out.
I found this one, and it's the holiday shirt, but it's horrible outside, so it seems a bit weird having it on, but you know.
Who cares?
We are literally opposites, to be fair, aren't we?
Yeah, I'm for it, so... I'm in the black.
Well, it's been an interesting week this week, as we've just spoken about.
There's lots of different stories to run through.
Last week you spoke about when are we going to free... people shouting, when are we going to free Iran?
And you said, well, when are we going to free the people of Iran from the Iranian regime?
Which just makes the point that they're as oppressive as anybody, so the idea that you're picking sides.
Well, this week there's been a story to do with Yeah, but he hardly hugs her.
oppressive regime to do this football or this goalkeeper who I think we'll be
able to show the video who hugs this fan who comes on the pitch but because that
fans a woman all hell's broken loose isn't it? Yeah but he hardly hugs her
yeah this this is it's a football example but it's an example of a much
wider situation not just in Iranian society but but but globally this idea
of taking sides. So we're dealing in Iran with a tyranny with a few people
dictating on religious grounds how the rest of the population have to live
their lives even down to what they wear and You've got Israel who are running a tyranny through Netanyahu, and yet people are taking sides.
Excuse me, ladies and gentlemen, it's a tyranny fighting a tyranny.
You should be focusing on the tyranny being imposed upon the people of both countries rather than picking a side.
So what happened, and it was so indicative, we've got a couple of football examples that are wider society malaise.
This is a guy, he's a goalkeeper in one of Iran's top clubs called Hossein Hosseini, right?
So, at the end of the game, this woman in the crowd, and we'll come to that, because they've only been able to watch football in Iran, women, since 2022, she runs towards the goalkeeper on the edge of the pitch, and her headscarf, her hijab came off, right?
Now, you would think that wouldn't be a problem in a sane society, but of course Iran is not a sane society in terms of its government.
And so in come the bloody morality police in their uniforms and military and stuff, because she's, oh my God!
She's got a red scarf on!
It's like the world has bloody ended, right?
So, she runs over to him, and she kind of tries to give him a bit of a coddle, and you can see he's a bit uncomfortable with it, but, you know, it happened.
And what they've done is they've fined this goalkeeper over $4,000 and banned him for a game.
For unprofessional behavior of touching a woman, or a woman touching him, that's not a member of his family.
So we now have a situation in free Iran, or free the Palestinians, Iran's going to free the Palestinians, whereby who you can and cannot even touch and cuddle is dictated by these These religious fanatics.
It's absolutely insane.
And when you look at it, you had FIFA, the governing body of football worldwide.
They pressured the Iranian government to allow women to watch football.
What a revolutionary act.
In 2022, on the back of a woman who set herself on fire.
Yeah, I remember it.
And then you had another lady who didn't have the hijab on and she was beaten to death.
Yeah.
And by the morality police, immoral morality police, And they claimed, oh no, she died of an heart attack.
She was 22, mate.
You beat her to death.
And this is the insanity of religious fanaticism.
100%.
Which you find every religion has its fanatics.
And in Iran, the country is run by religious fanatics and we shouldn't be celebrating Iran for firing missiles at Egypt as some kind of It's a blow for freedom.
It's a tyranny.
Did I say Egypt?
Israel.
Israel's a tyranny.
Egypt's a bloody tyranny, come to that.
Most countries are.
With a military dictatorship, basically.
We shouldn't be looking at good guys and bad guys, my side, the other side, we should be looking at the tyrannies, you rightly say, all over the world, that are imposing their beliefs, their agendas, their demands upon the population.
And again, you look at this, And you look at how many people are in Iran, and how many people are imposing this.
Yep, tiny.
You look at the same in every other country, the answer staring us in the face.
But unfortunately, you know, if you've got a place like Iran, you've also got the population that is reticent for challenging the Supreme Leader, Not just because, well maybe there's consequences for me if I do it, and there would be if it wasn't done en masse, but they're also buying the religious fanaticism.
And so they will agree, and lots of them will agree, that women should wear this headscarf and not be allowed to go about their lives in freedom.
But more and more people, you saw from the reaction of what happened in the football situation we've just described, Whereby the crowd weren't bloody happy with what went on.
So, you know, there's obviously a lot of people in Iran who've had enough of it.
I agree.
And I think one thing that's really interesting to look at is people will argue that it's culture.
You know, every country's different and that's just their culture.
And my point to that, we were having this chat with Fred before we started the show, that if you remove the consequences, By the regime, by the police, or by the belief in God, the consequences of them behaving indifferently, would they behave differently?
If women knew they could go out without a headscarf and they'd have no problems, there was no fear of being attacked by the police, there was no fear of the wrath of God or whatever they're told, would they still do it?
The answer's probably not.
So therefore it's not culture, it's about oppression, isn't it?
Well, some of them will who have been brought up from birth to believe in this, I would say, nonsense.
But a lot of them wouldn't.
You know, I remember a story from Saudi Arabia.
Totally crazy country, that is.
Totally fascist country.
Some years ago now, where their version of the morality police, the religious police, There was a fire at a school and they stopped the kids, the girls, coming out and escaping the fire because they weren't appropriately dressed.
And some of them died.
So, you know, if you're talking about clinical insanity.
Well, there's a definition.
But this is this is what happens.
And, you know, I keep saying people should believe whatever they want to believe.
They believe any religion they like, they can believe any culture they like, they can believe any political persuasion they like.
Just don't impose it on everyone else.
Let them have, you want the freedom and the right to have your own opinion and your own belief.
Okay, fine, no problem with that, good.
But so does everybody else, even though crime of crime, it's not the same as yours.
Absolutely.
And we've seen this week within the mainstream alternative media another example of people who are demanding freedom and speak very articulately about it, like Candace Owens in America.
Who has announced that she's going to, or if she has, converted to the Roman Catholic religion.
We've had Russell Brand doing the rosary, a video of him doing the rosary and saying the prayers.
We've had Jordan Peterson's wife converting to Roman Catholicism.
We've had this Dutch activist, Eva Vlandingerbroek, Not only converting to Roman Catholicism, but becoming a real kind of promoter of it in almost everything she does.
And you know, you look at that and what I see, as with the pick a side, it's the good guys against the bad guys, cognitive dissonance on a level that beggars belief.
Because you have Activists within the mainstream alternative media, the MAM, who are demanding freedom of speech, they're demanding freedom of thought, they're demanding freedom of opinion.
And then they convert to a Roman Catholic Church that has a long, long history of mass murder for the crime of having a different opinion and a different belief.
And all the child abuse as well.
Yeah, and all that stuff, you know.
Another thing, you know, cognitive dissonance.
The Pope, Pope Francis, has come out in an interview on American television, his first on American television I understand, and he's calling people that don't believe in human-caused climate change, this complete hoax and scientific fraud, he's saying they're fools.
So how does that play Candace?
How does that play Eva?
and Jordan Peterson's wife.
How does that play out with you converting to a church in which if you look at The Pope and his pronouncements, they are almost in totality in line with the World Economic Forum and the global cult agenda.
And when you've got this vast constituency of people who look to the Pope as being the vicar of Christ, And God's representative on Earth.
That has an enormous potential impact on what the congregation will believe.
And so he's pushing all these agendas.
And then Candace, who I have a lot of respect for in many of the things that she does, and Eva and all these people.
What are you doing?
You know, why aren't the different parts of your brain talking to each other and recognizing the extraordinary contradictions of saying one thing and then doing this?
Because what is cognitive dissonance?
It's believing two things that are completely contradictory but believing them at the same time both to be true!
Absolutely.
And that's what we're seeing here.
What do you think as well about the glorification of these conversions?
Because you can go to church without posting it on social media, you can do whatever you want without posting it on social media, but these people are posting almost like this vitriolic return to glory, like it's the greatest thing that's ever happened.
What do you think is behind that?
Is it attention or is there something... it feels orchestrated to me.
Yeah, well, there's a lot of look at me.
There's a lot of that about it.
And, you know, believe what you want to believe, but just get on with your life, you know, and don't seek to convert other people, you know.
And so Eva Vlandingerbrook, who is a part of the MAM, I mean, you know, she She does some good stuff on what's happening to farmers and the mass migration and stuff.
But she's massively off the pace when it comes to the big picture.
And that's been confirmed by her eulogizing the Roman Church with its history of oppression and control.
I mean, if you had the wrong opinion over a long period of time, then you weren't going to be with us very long, thanks to the Roman Church.
If you look at the history of that, Vatican-based religion.
Anyone that came out and said something different They were targeted, you know, Giordano Bruno and so many other people who spoke out with hindsight saying things that turned out to be true, but because it was against the orthodoxy of the Roman Church, they were taken out.
So therefore, the Roman Church is everything that the alternative media should be challenging.
Not joining.
Challenging.
It's bewildering.
We've had this chat before, Jay.
There is something going on.
100%.
And we'll see why it is eventually.
Something's just fallen off the bloody ceiling.
It's probably my brain falling out of the bed.
Okay, well, it's probably a blasphemy.
That's what it is.
It's an act of God.
But, yeah, and, you know, here's a clip of Candace Owens, where she's talking about how she's part of Team God.
I am Team God.
I'm team God.
I do not fear the media.
I do not fear journalists.
I do not fear AIPAC.
I don't fear Big Pharma.
What I actually fear is God.
I think that one day we are all going to have to account for the things that we have done and the things that we have said, and I want to make sure that I am not a person that is parroting lies.
So there's a few things there.
your job, encouraging some people to spit out lies, I don't think that works in the end.
Right, I think you've gotta check your priorities.
So there's a few things there.
First of all, she says she's not frightened of the media, she's not frightened of this or that or the other,
and nor am I.
But she is frightened of God, she fears God.
Thank you.
Well, you know, I've seen this through my lifetime, this thing about God fearing people.
Well, you know, why the fear?
The fear is not doing what the religion tells you you should do to keep God happy, basically.
And who's decided that?
Has God decided that?
No, the religion's decided that, going back over centuries galore.
And, you know, I don't fear God.
Whatever God means to different people, I don't fear that either.
And you know, the idea that, which comes from what she says there, the idea that somehow you have one life on earth, which can be anything between a few seconds and a hundred years plus, By God, this loving God for what you've said and done.
I mean, it don't seem very bloody fair to me, Jay, to be honest.
And I remember when I went to America for the first time to speak and I travel a lot, and I was in a lot of hotels on my own, so I was flicking through the television channels, and I became riveted by the religious channels, right?
Because I didn't realize that they existed in the form that I was seeing.
And there was this Roman Catholic channel, and it was so sad, because this woman, there was this priest guy who was answering questions, and this woman rang up, And said she was terribly distraught, as she sounded it, because her baby had died in the birth process.
Yeah, you've told me about this.
This is sick.
And what will happen in terms of God judging the child, right?
I've got my face in their hands by now.
And this guy tried to explain what would happen.
And he's probably not with us anymore, because he was getting on then.
But if he was with us, and maybe in another dimension, his knickers will still be twisting.
Because he disappeared up his own backside, trying to explain it.
Of course, it was nonsense.
And, you know, people must believe whatever they want to believe.
But they must respect that other people have a different opinion.
I respect their right to believe what they believe.
But I look at it I'm thinking, you see, this is where I'm coming from with all this.
I'm thinking, if you're looking at what's happening in the world and you're trying to uncover what's going on, What you're doing is looking at the facts.
You're looking at what's being said.
You're looking at the contradictions.
And you're looking at what makes sense and what doesn't make sense on the basis of what you're seeing.
And I'm seeing this cognitive dissonance of people who, on one level, They are looking at what's happening in the world and they're kind of making some sense of it from a conspiratorial point of view.
And they say, well, that doesn't make sense.
That doesn't make sense.
They're conning us here.
But in their religious beliefs, they're not doing that.
Why?
We should be questioning everything.
Not giving our belief systems a free pass, because if we do that, it means we are not open minded to the point where we are going to look at everything dispassionately.
Rather than just this, and not the religious belief.
And also, the institutionalized nature of religions, where they've been around for centuries.
You know, Vatican, perfect example.
Look at the size of it.
Look at the influence it's had through history.
The idea that that's the answer, and has been the answer all along, is just... I don't compute it.
I don't compute how you can be a remotely rational thinker, or questioning mind, and come to the conclusion that that's the answer.
Unless there's something deeper behind it.
Well, we'll see eventually what this is all about, because, you know, the mainstream alternative media, as I know myself, I watched it appear from nothing, has always been basically dominated by the Christian belief system.
But now, not only is that being emphasized more, but other people who haven't been that way are now coming in and... Why?
Why?
If anything, The whole way that you look at the world as an alternative researcher, an alternative journalist, is that everything is up for grabs.
Everything is up to be questioned.
And if it stands up to questioning, fine.
Not a problem.
But it needs to be questioned.
You, me, everything needs to be questioned.
And what's being said.
To see if the evidence supports it.
And that would lead me...
To question religious belief more.
Absolutely.
Because you're saying, well, okay, let's look at the history of this.
All these religions are creating groupthink, because that's what it is.
Whatever name you go under, what a part of the world, whatever culture, it's groupthink.
And kids growing up are pressured through shame, guilt, or fear.
to conform to the groupthink and you look at how that has served those in power.
Massively.
It's been a phenomenal vehicle because now we have another religion called science So you follow the science, and if you don't follow the science, if you don't listen to the scientists, who are talking crap, a lot of them, then you're blaspheming the science.
All these climate change, human-caused climate change, it's a religion, right?
With a belief system, and with priests and fanatics and all the rest of it.
So, anyone that is genuinely opening their mind to say, okay, Let's have a look at this world and let's see what stands up to scrutiny and what doesn't.
You should be questioning religion more, not conforming to it more and eulogizing it and promoting it more.
It is a cognitive dissonance which is quite blatantly happening now and I'm very interested in In where it goes from here, and why it's going at all.
Well yeah, you look at every alternative mainstream media person, and it's Catholicism, Christianity, Judaism, or Islam.
Everyone, pretty much, without present company accepted.
And they're very openly and obviously talking about it.
So yeah, there's definitely something at play.
Yeah, there is, and they should believe what they believe, like I keep saying, but how they can believe that stuff unquestioningly and still claim to be an alternative researcher with an open mind is beyond my comprehension, frankly.
Well, a lot of them believe quite a lot without questioning, as we'll get into later in the show.
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