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Nov. 9, 2023 - David Icke
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Freedom to protest v freedom to remember: There is no 'v' if there is mutual respect
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Hello everybody and welcome to the David Icke dot connector.
I'm Jamie Icke.
Joining me as always.
How are you doing, Dad?
I'm good, man.
Excellent.
Right, so this week, obviously there's a lot of stories around the coming weekend.
Armistice Day, remember it's Sunday as there normally is.
But this week there's been another thing chucked into that to make the headlines and it's this pro-Palestinian march in London on Saturday which is causing a lot of stories, a lot of division.
What's your take on that?
Well, I mean, that's the word.
It's causing a lot of division. And it's meant to. People on all sides are being
wound up. It's the classic where we talked about last week, once you take a side and
you vehemently support whatever that side does and vehemently oppose whatever the other side
does, you're always in a position of division and divide and rule.
So let's look at this from a reasonable, balanced, fair and just perspective.
The Palestinian marchers who are calling for the ceasefire in Gaza, hallelujah to that, they want to do their protest march on Saturday.
Then there's the Armistice Ceremony and the putting of the wreaths on the Cenotaph in Whitehall to commemorate all those stunning numbers of people who died in wars, not least the First and Second World War.
There are many ironies which I'll come into about all that.
So they want their remembrance ceremony to go on unmolested and unimposed upon.
The Palestinian marchers want to do their march.
Now, as long as the Palestinian marchers respect that, No problem.
No problem.
It's no problem.
The problem is being manufactured because they want, on every level possible, to turn this Israel-Gaza situation into divide and rule right across the world.
And we're seeing it happening.
And so, on the other side, those who are involved in the remembrance ceremony, Also need to not forget that what that is commemorating is the armistice at the end of a war, right?
And what the Palestinian marchers won is the end of the war on Gaza.
So the two actually have a great deal in common because, you know, we see these Now, elderly people who are still marching in commemoration of their fallen friends and colleagues in the Second World War.
But if you said to them, what is war like?
They tell you how horrific it was.
They tell you of all their friends who died, who didn't want to fight in a war.
They want to get on with their lives.
And here we have people in Gaza being bombed in the way that is killing enormous numbers of them, not least kids as well.
Yeah.
And so there should be some empathy between the two, whereby the Palestinian marchers recognize that what's happening in terms of Gaza happened to the people who died in the wars who are being commemorated.
So it comes down to a simple word.
Respect.
You know, once you have respect between two groups or multiple groups of people, then you have harmony.
Because the Palestinian marchers say, we respect the sanctity of the remembrance ceremony.
To commemorate all those people who died in the wars.
And the people involved in the ceremony say, we of all people recognize that what the marchers want is what we would have wanted, which is the end of war, the end of bombing, where we talk instead of Yeah.
of imposed violence. And in the same way, those that are supporting the Palestinians
also recognize that what was done to Israeli civilians was appalling. And what is happening
obviously to Palestinians in Gaza is grotesque, which should be recognized by the civilian
population, recognized by the government of Israel, but should be recognized by the civilian
population of Israel.
So you have this balance, this mutual respect, and this mutual acknowledgement that mass death and destruction, called war, should never be an option.
And, you know, there are many ironies surrounding this as well, because at the centre of this commemoration of the fallen on Sunday, Remembrance Sunday, first of all will be the Royal Family.
The Royal Family of Britain that was connected to the Royal Family of Germany, It not least involved in the First World War and was connected to the Nazi families, the aristocratic families that were supporting the Nazis.
There's pictures of Prince Philip at Nazi marches.
Yeah, Prince Philip was a classic example.
And also in this remembrance ceremony on Sunday, We'll be former prime ministers, you know, putting their wreaths on the cenotaph, playing the, um, oh, it's terrible.
Oh, we commemorate the dead.
Oh, really, Mr. Bloody Blair?
You are responsible for untold dead people in the Middle East, not least via Iraq.
You've got Cameron, you'll have Theresa May, all involved in supporting attacks on people in the Middle East.
And so these people are grotesque hypocrites.
And when they come out, and the establishment comes out that was behind the wars that created all those dead, that are ultimately behind what's happening in Gaza, when they come out and say, oh, it's not commemorating the dead, it's an insult on Armistice Day.
Well, please, because you shouldn't be there.
Yeah.
Tony Blair should not be at any ceremony commemorating dead people in wars.
Neither should the others and neither should the royal family.
It's an absolute bloody disgrace.
And what you've got is hypocrisy on a mega scale, but you've also got this winding up of, again, both sides,
where you've got the pro-Israel people, pick a side, pick a side, any side, who are saying,
we're going to defend the cenotaph and all this stuff.
And you will have the great possibility Of a relatively small number of people involved in the Palestinian march who were not doing it for Palestinians, they're doing it for their own ends, who may well disrespect the
The Armistice weekend.
And if they do, then they're a bloody disgrace as much as Blair and these others are a disgrace.
And what we come down to in the end, Jay, is simply respect.
Respect people's right to have a different opinion to you.
Yeah.
Respect their right not to have your opinion imposed on them, whatever it may be.
Respect the right of people who feel strongly, obviously, understandably about what's going on in Gaza to express themselves and let them respect the Armistice Ceremony for all the people who've died in wars.
Now, here we go again.
I talk about this global cult and this global network of secret societies that's manipulating the wars and manipulating the different countries, manipulating the different sides.
And here's something that unites the apparently in-conflict groups on both sides.
The First World War, I've documented this in my books in enormous detail.
The First World War was manipulated into being by this cult.
Second World War, manipulated into being by this cult.
The invasion of Iraq, the attacks on Syria, the invasion of Libya by the grotesque NATO.
All these things were manipulated and so many more were manipulated by this cult.
What's happening in Gaza, Israel, is being manipulated by the same cult.
Which is why you have Hamas, that is claiming to represent the Palestinians in Gaza, that was created and funded into existence by the Israeli government, and the Hamas and Israeli government are answerable to the same force.
The same force that was behind the two world wars, on and on and on it goes.
So what we should be doing is not falling for this division.
You ought to be on Twitter for a few minutes to see how divided it is and how it's being wound up to be.
Instead of being divided, we should be saying, hey, what we want to stop and what you want to commemorate was actually created by the same force.
Why don't we just bloody unite and focus on that which is playing us all?
Because then the House of Cards will come down.
But while it's all that stuff, it's going to just go on and on and on.
How much of this divide that's going to happen this weekend, that was obvious to see, comes from The, in a sense, obviously British culture, the poppy, every television presenter, all the footballers in the Premier League, that's a massive part of British culture this weekend, it always has been.
How much of it do you think is impacted by this immigration issue that we do have in the country, that people are starting to see is actually becoming a problem?
And that's why there's this divide, because they have almost dehumanised The Palestinian plight, because they associate that with people coming across the channel, people taking over the British culture, and if they're going to disrespect this massive part of the culture, which is the two wars, then, you know, FM basically.
And that's, we were speaking yesterday, is that why they've let certain figures back on Twitter this week to stoke that division?
Well, you see, if you look at things From a bigger picture point of view, you can see the different elements of this.
And if you don't see it from here, you can mix the elements.
Yeah.
So I've been warning in the books for decades, fricking decades, not Johnny come lately, suddenly see it, that the plan of this cult was to flood the West with other cultures and other religions to dismantle Western society.
And I've been caught everything under the fricking sun and beyond for doing so.
Now people are starting to see it.
So the southern border of the United States is allowed to be basically open because they're changing the demographics of America.
The borders of Europe have been opened and then all the borders within it down so you're going straight through to change the demographics of Europe.
That's the plan.
And the point being that, as you say, people are, they are confusing That agenda, which absolutely is happening, it's so clear now.
I mean, I wrote in books years ago, I said the point's going to come where the southern border of the United States is going to be so open and the numbers coming across so large that basically it's going to walk into America.
There won't be a border.
That's where we are.
And then you look at the people like George Soros and his Open Society Foundation network.
That has been funding the non-governmental organizations to open the southern border of the United States, to open the borders of Europe, because it's all part of this plan.
And that needs addressing and that needs seeing.
And of course all that, oh, you're a racist stuff, is to stop you talking about something that's happening.
It's to defend that policy from public exposure.
But a group of people, defenseless basically, being bombed by the hour, as we speak, by an Israeli government that left its empathy behind, if it ever had it, a very long time ago.
As did Hamas, by the way, the people in Hamas that did that to Israeli civilians.
But then again, empathy deletion is part of all that.
But you surely can divorce or put aside this focus on the, and it is an invasion of Western culture by another culture.
It is.
Yep.
I'm not hiding from it.
But surely you can put that aside and say, well, hold on, never mind that for a moment.
What's happening in Gaza with this high-tech, cutting-edge weaponry being dropped on a basically defenseless people, overwhelmingly made up of civilians and children, is beyond grotesque.
I mean, anyone who is supporting that and justifying that is in a position of serious psychological sickness.
They are.
But they put the two together, as you say, so they're influenced on the bombing of Gaza by the fact that the Western culture is changing.
And we come back to respect, and I'll say this to people who are coming in from other cultures, and I would have said exactly the same.
To the British Empire when it went walkabout to colonize the world.
Respect that which you are entering.
Yep.
Respect the fact that you are being allowed to come into this country.
You're allowed to come into this way of doing things culture.
Don't have the disrespect For where you're entering to the point where you want to change it to suit you.
Yep.
And the same the other way.
Because when I was a kid and I learned about the British Empire, the other European empires, I was absolutely sickened by the fact that they just walked in and took over, took the resources and all that. 100%.
But two wrongs, the last time I looked, don't equal a right.
And it was wrong to do that, so it's wrong to come into a country with a particular culture and way of doing things and completely disrespect that.
So anyone, if they do, we don't know as we speak, but if they do disrespect, The remembrance ceremonies and the remembrance weekend, then then no one will be more condemnatory of it than me because it will be a bloody disgrace.
And when I see Free Palestine written in paint on cenotaphs commemorating the The dead in the wars in cities.
I think there was one in Rochdale that was done on or something like that.
I mean, please, you know, if you want respect for Gazans...
Right?
And absolutely that's justified.
Then you have respect for those who died in other wars.
Other wars, like I say, that were manipulated by the same network that is manipulating what is happening in Gaza.
And please, people, come together and respect each other's right to have their opinion, to have their view, without it being imposed upon everyone else.
And if we do that, then the whole thing calms down.
But what the government wants, it's a hate march and all that, is just to wind people up.
And if you fall for it, Don't tell me your alternative.
Don't tell me you can see the manipulation, because you have fallen for it if you do that.
They absolutely haven't, so many have.
And obviously we're talking about everyday and regular people that are going to be at this march.
Now this is a massive opportunity for the cult, the march, and Remembrance Sunday, Armistice Day, because Israel are losing at the moment in the court of public opinion, aren't they?
But there's a massive, as you talk about there, massive disrespect, massive attack on British culture and it's shown to be, or appears to be, by this pro-Palestinian march that could flip very quickly.
So how much potential do you see for a false flag type event that gets pinned on certain people?
Oh, there's always, there's always potential for that because when, if I'm talking about this cult, when there's a few of you And you're trying to manipulate 8 billion people.
You've got to divide and rule the 8 billion.
Because if they're united, you're done for.
You ain't going to impose your agenda on 8 billion people who have respect for each other's right to be different, have a respect for each other's right to have a different opinion.
You're not going to do that.
So you have to divide them.
And this is an opportunity to divide and a very clear one.
And I would just say to people, please, please, just don't fall for it.
Because when you fight, when you get manipulated into hatred of another side, Why do you questioningly follow your own?
You're doing exactly what this cult wants!
That's what they want!
So, respect.
Respect.
That is what will bring the House of Cards down in the end.
Not least, self-respect.
In the sense of not doing what authority tells you just because authority tells you.
I completely agree and if you're having an armistice day and a peace march that should be the last place there should ever be any conflict.
An armistice weekend and a peace march.
What synchronicity if it's allowed to be?
100%.
So we're going to move on from this topic and look at something that happened on Tuesday this week, staying in the region.
This video which you're going to see on the screen now, the assassination attempt or supposed assassination attempt on the Palestinian president
Mohammed Abbas in the West Bank.
His convoy was attacked and as you can see in the video his bodyguard was shot dead.
There's an organization which call themselves the Sons of Abdu-Jandal
who apparently gave him 24 hours to declare global war on Israel
and this was probably a warning to do that. What's your take on this?
Well it could have been an assassination attempt and it could have been a warning
which someone else took the consequences for to follow on from that demand.
Yeah.
Abdu-Jamal or was it Janal?
Yes, sons of Abdu'l-Jamal.
Well, originally he was an associate of Mohammed, but this is related to someone who was given that pseudonym who fought against Israeli occupation.
What you've got, again, you know, we come on from what I've just said about it's necessary to divide and rule.
If you're going, if you're going to rule, you've got to divide because united we stand, divided we fall.
Classic, but very, very true statement.
So you had the Palestinian Liberation Organization.
I remember that.
It was on the news almost every day with its leader, Yasser Arafat.
This was, you know, going way back.
And it was a secular organization.
And Israel, the Israeli government, what I call the Sabbatean cult that runs the Israeli government, they wanted to undermine the PLO.
And so this is why they were fundamental in creating Hamas.
And Hamas effectively kicked the PLO out of Gaza.
And the PLO now under the banner of the Palestinian Authority, headed by Abbas, they officially run the West Bank on behalf of the Palestinian population.
Not that there's much land in the West Bank left for the Palestinian population.
And Abbas, he comes over very much as a weak man.
That doesn't mean you say he should be calling for violence and all that stuff, but he's a weak man in terms of, they walk all over him basically.
But what you've got again is this division between Hamas in Gaza and the Palestinian Authority, PLO in effect, in the West Bank.
It's all about division and the Israeli government via intelligence agencies like Mossad, I'm sure Shin Bet, the domestic one as well, are playing these people.
And creating a situation in which there is not a unified response to what Israel is doing.
And obviously there are people in the West Bank who don't want Abbas there anymore and he's had a major warning this week that he changes or Or it's going to be not good for him.
Well, this assassination attempt came about three hours after he'd met the US Secretary of State, Blinken, over in Israel.
And they were apparently talking about minimising civilian casualties in Gaza.
This is bloody hilarious, this.
Antony Blinken, Secretary of State of the United States, is trying to play the role publicly, not really.
Of being a peacemaker and an arbiter between the two sides.
There's a lot of things that I've said over the years which were perceived to be crazy.
and then suddenly they start to move mainstream.
I'm waiting for someone to convince me that we don't live in a simulation.
What is real?
How do you define real?
If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.
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