Here And No Further - The 'Alternative' Media Hijack - David Icke Dot-Connector Videocast
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Good evening everybody and welcome to the brand new format of the Dot Connector
here at the Iconic Studios with one and only David Lund.
How are you doing, Dad?
You all right?
I'm good, mate.
And just to say, the format's changed because I'm now being inundated with so many requests that are taking my time and work, which is great.
I remember when you couldn't fill a phone box with interest, but it means the preparation time for the old Dot Connector format is just impossible now.
Of course, and you've done that format for so long as well that it's nice to try something a bit different and to throw some ideas around.
So the first subject that we're going to get into today is We've been brought to fruition in the last few weeks with the number of things that have happened where there's been a side here or a side there.
And what we've seen is people clamber to pick a side rather than wait and let some information come out before choosing a side.
So the most obvious ones are the conflict we're seeing now in Gaza, Russell Brand allegations.
What do you think that's about?
This sort of need for people to pick a side rather than just wait and say, you know what, I don't know yet.
Let's see what comes out in the wash.
This clambering to be on one side or right.
Well, I think a lot of it comes from not understanding actually what this reality is and how it works.
This is a duality.
It needs two sides to play off against each other constantly to divide and rule.
And if you pick a side, And we've seen, like you say, many examples of it recently.
Then what happens is you start to be an apologist for what is said and done by your side as against seeing everything that's wrong with the other side.
And you know, what I'm saying is Make a view of people, make a view of behavior, not taking a side.
So from that perspective, if we look at the Israel-Gaza situation, you look at what was done to Israeli civilians.
I mean, you know, there's a debate over whether, you know, it was Propagandized in certain ways, but certainly some horrific things happened and you say that is appalling and That that should be condemned that should not happen and at the same time the Israeli government response of mass bombing of Gaza is Absolutely grotesque it is so what you're doing is
is you're looking at behavior and making a view, a comment about that and not taking a side.
Because what I'm seeing is the bombing of Gaza is OK because of what was done to Israeli civilians.
No, the bombing of Gaza is not OK.
And what was done to Israeli civilians is not OK.
And then there's the next level.
And this is where I Kind of observe how so much of the so-called alternative media, which is rushed to pick sides all over the place, does not understand the world that it's reporting.
Because if you take the Israeli government, and I've researched that and its background and Mossad and the IDF and all of it, for decades, It is controlled by this global cult that I talk about.
But then you look at Hamas, and you don't have to go very deep in terms of this situation to find that Hamas was brought into existence, funded into existence too, by the Israeli government.
So now suddenly you've got a side, this is my side, that's my side.
They can do no wrong, they can't do any right, and vice versa.
But then you go to the next level, and you go, Hamas is driving what's happening to people in Gaza.
The Israeli government is driving what's happening in terms of Israel.
But you go one step back, and the same hand is controlling both.
So to take a side, In terms of taking a tribal side, is to miss the point that both sets of civilians are being played off against each other by a hand that actually controls both of their leaderships.
And then you start to get a grasp and a grip of what's actually happening.
And, you know, it's It's something you see everywhere.
And what makes me smile in terms of the alternative media, not everybody, nothing like everybody in it, but key people, well-known people, people with a big audience.
You hear them talk about Covid, you hear them talk about Ukraine and human-caused climate change and all that stuff, and they say, oh yeah, what's the latest thing?
Right?
So you point out, and this is what they've done, they've pointed out that There's the latest thing, so it's COVID.
So you're going to pick a side.
And the side is that the government is telling the truth.
That was the side of the woke.
And then you have human-caused climate change, the latest thing.
So you know woke are going to pick a side, and it's going to be, we're all going to die.
Then the Ukraine war starts.
And you know that the woke mentality, which is an expression of this cult that most of the people involved don't know, and you know they are going to pick a side and it's going to be Ukraine, right?
And all those things happened.
And then this Palestinian-Israel situation kicks off again.
And the very people that we're talking about, oh yeah, the latest thing, oh they'll pick that side, yeah, they pick a side!
And it's quite pathetic and it's an expression of ignorance in many ways, of how when you pick a tribal group and you filter your responses through that group, you're actually
playing right into the hands of that force, that cult force, that you say you're
actually opposing, but you're not.
It's playing you like a string instrument.
Yeah, and a perfect example, I didn't even know this until the last week, of how Hamas
and Israel are on the same page, is that they both did mass vaccine rollouts for their populations.
That's the great point.
I made it on social media this week that you had not only the Israeli government Making Israel a laboratory for Pfizer.
His words, wasn't it?
You've actually got Benjamin Netanyahu in an interview with Jordan Peterson,
a fawning interview by the way, boasting that he made Israel a laboratory for Pfizer.
We came out of COVID first.
I described that in my book, my conversations with Albert Bourla of Pfizer.
And I persuaded him to give tiny Israel the necessary vaccines to get us out first from the COVID.
And the reason I could do that is because we have a database.
98%, a medical database, 98% of our population has digitized medical records, a little card, and anywhere you go, in any hospital in Israel, North, South, doesn't make any difference, boom, you punch it in, and you know everything about this patient for the last 20 years.
I said, we'll use that.
To tell you whether these vaccines, what do they do to people, not individual people, not with their individual identities, but statistically, what does it do to people with, you know, with meningitis?
What does it do to people with high blood pressure?
What is it?
You know, you want to know that.
So Israel became, if you will, the lab for Pfizer and that's how we did it. We got out and we gave
the information to the world.
Not only it's been published in medical magazines and so on.
And then as you say, the opposition, oh we're against Netanyahu, a mass,
they rolled out the fake vaccine in Gaza.
I know.
So, uh, what's the common theme?
It's again, um, Donald Trump.
Donald Trump's gonna save us.
He's my side.
And then, uh, so who rolled out the fake vaccine in America and was claiming the credit for it even after the consequences were becoming clear?
Donald Trump.
Operation Warp Speed.
Yeah.
Um, and, and, you know, if you, if you If you pick a side, and a politician can be a side as well, like Trump or whatever, you're always going to fall into the trap of being an apologist for whatever they do, and you're also going to be full of contradictions.
Because in every community, in every culture, in every religious belief, Doesn't matter what it is or where it is, you're gonna have the same thing every time.
You're gonna have nice people, you're gonna have okay people, just get on with life, and you're gonna have psychopaths.
Absolutely.
But what happens when you pick a side is you forget the psychopathic expressions of that side, and you focus on the psychopathic expressions of the other side, And you do things like Lawrence Fox did this week, where he first of all climbed on statues to take down Palestinian posters, including one that said that Sunak and Starmer were standing aside bystanders basically to genocide.
And then literally 24 hours later, complains that the London police are taking down posters of hostages, Israeli hostages in Gaza.
And it's like, hold on a minute.
First of all, if you're a free speech advocate, you don't decide of all people what people can say and what they can't.
But it's also so contradictory.
You know if you say oh, no, I don't agree those posters should be put anywhere whether they're Palestinian or Israeli That's a view and it's a balanced view.
Oh, I think they should both be left out.
That's a balanced view But when you pick a side the contradictions follow they always follow and and until the alternative media what I call the mainstream alternative with the names that get the big audiences until they Understand the nature of the conspiracy, how it works, and how massively bigger it is than they understand.
They'll go on serving something they claim to be opposing.
I agree.
And I think, my opinion on this, I'll get your take on it, is that Donald Trump was the catalyst for this.
Because it felt like when he stood, that's when the alternative media got pulled back into politics.
And obviously politics, you pick a side.
You know, when the Republicans went to war in Iraq, the Democrats are kicking off.
When Obama goes to war in Syria and Libya, they're not, because it's their side.
And we're seeing that, you know, perfect example with Trump.
You've got Trump fans and supporters now.
that still try and find excuses for why he let Fauci run the country,
because they need him to be their hero. And it kind of feels the same in this country.
Lawrence Fox, you mentioned right wing. If you're right wing, you have to support Israel,
rather than looking at it as the facts on the screen and going, I'm going to make an informed
choice. Do you think politics coming back in has caused a lot of it?
Well, politics is the great diversion. Okay, you've got 8 billion people, and you've got a
comparative tiny handful who are manipulating the 8 billion people
in full knowledge of what they're doing.
So purely by mathematics, that's impossible.
If the 8 billion or even a great number of them say we're not cooperating with what you're telling us to do.
Game over!
Finished!
We can't impose that on you when enough people are saying we won't do it.
So what you need, that's taking your power back.
That's saying I don't need a politician.
I don't need to give me power to some politician.
To be my savior for the next four or five years.
I'm not bloody having it!
That's my power!
So what you have to do, if you are a few manipulating a vast number, is you have to manipulate people to give that power away.
Now, the great chunks of the population will give their power away to authority because it's authority.
Oh yeah, yes, Doctor.
Anything you say, Doctor.
Oh, he's a scientist.
He must know what he's talking about.
Oh, he's a politician.
I'd better do what he says.
He's just changed the law.
And all that, right?
And another way of doing it for those who won't do that, who won't just acquiesce to authority because they could see that there's a scam going on of some kind, Is you need to give them a hero.
You need to give them a focal point which will get them to give their power away instead of seeing they're already bloody have it.
And if enough of us say no, it's over.
You've got to get them to give their power away.
So in the first Trump period, I mean, I was calling him out as you well know during his election campaign saying this guy's a fraud and He he got got in.
He had four years.
He basically did nothing that changed anything with with, you know, long term effects.
And he brought in the there was a vehicle for bringing in the fake vaccine with all its death and destruction consequences for health.
And then he kind of went away and in came Biden, and of course Biden's just a senile man and he reads the script when he's able to, which is not very often now.
But then they bring Trump back.
And what it's doing is it's focusing attention on Trump.
Trump's the savior.
If only we could get Trump back in, it will all be different.
It won't.
It wasn't the last time in terms of the fundamentals.
But what you're saying is, give me your power.
For the next four years, like you did the last time, and then I'll do what you want me to do.
But of course they don't.
But what it does is buy time.
It does, absolutely.
You've got an agenda and it's got a timescale.
for its full implementation.
And what you want to do is you want to buy time to allow you to progress to the point, through AI, where it becomes virtually, not quite impossible, nothing ever is, but virtually impossible to dismantle.
Once people have accepted being connected to AI, their brain is connected to AI.
Thank you.
Then how are they going to have free thought to think that they've got to challenge something when their perceptions are coming direct through AI?
So they need to buy time to get there.
They want to get there as fast as they can.
That's why everything's quickening up.
You've got to buy time.
So the great way to buy time is to have your guy in office so that those, particularly those that were pushing back, You have your guy in office and basically you've got four years in which you say, oh, he'll sort it.
Trump will sort it.
And then at the end of four years, you say, well, he hasn't, has he?
No, no, but four years have gone for the agenda to massively be advanced.
Because if you look at the Trump four years, there was cosmetic stuff and lots of rhetoric.
Oh, we're going to build the border wall.
Well, it wasn't built and we're going to do this, we're going to do that.
But in the end, the agenda just went on playing out.
And that's what they're doing, they're buying time.
We need to put aside politics and just all of us no, we're not cooperating with this anymore and it would go.
But we give, I mean, it's like now, okay, are you going to vote conservative or are
you going to vote Labour?
It doesn't fricking matter.
It's just a matter of degree.
The Labour Party does not have the pushback against the woke agenda and the cult agenda.
So it will bring it in faster, just as Biden did after he came to office after Trump.
And the Conservative Party, they do have a constituency, they have to keep happy, that is pushing back, that doesn't want this stuff, and therefore it has to be much more circumspect.
So they basically move at slightly slower speeds You know, even more than slower speeds in terms of the Labour Party.
It's going to be really, really fast if they get in.
But the same agenda is unfolding, whatever.
And we have to take the power back and stop giving it away to politicians.
And in terms of the alternative media, it's so five cent centric in terms of its It's it's quote big names with the with the with the big followings.
It's so five cents centric and it's focused on politics.
What about this?
What about that?
What's happening to him?
And you're going to vote for him and all that stuff.
And what it what it's become is a here and no further barricade where People like me who are talking about the vastness of the conspiracy, the fact that the very reality we're experiencing is part of the conspiracy, that's all dismissed.
Never talk about any of that stuff.
It's purely the five sense level.
And what I'm seeing is, okay, There's something that I call designer manipulation.
So what you want, if you're this global cult, is you want everyone to believe the official narrative.
That's your ideal.
But you know that increasingly, especially since the emergence of the alternative media, which didn't exist when I started out, Not everyone's going to believe the official narrative.
So you have to somehow limit how far they go so they don't get into the really big picture where the real answers lie.
So what you do is you have hear but no further people and hear but no further organizations like GB News in Britain.
And what you do is you focus attention on them, so they get the big audiences and they get the focus.
And so people who are looking for answers, who see that something's wrong and there is a conspiracy happening, you get them to focus on these names.
As if what these names are saying which is the mildest stuff you'd ever come across really compared with the
picture there is to see But that is the conspiracy. That's it. It's the
manipulation of politics and it's the Democrats and it's the
The the Republicans or whatever. Yeah corporate corruption a corporate corruption
Financial system all of these things that I've exposed myself and they need exposing but the point is the they
become the focus So if we put some names to this
You've got Andrew Tate, who gets massive numbers and calls himself, you know, the great warrior for freedom.
But he's just focusing on one small area, which is the suppression of the male.
Right.
But how is he talking about that?
He's talking about it as if to be male is to be powerful and have money and a Bugatti and all this stuff.
And it's barely one dimensional, right?
But in terms of the rest of the picture, he hasn't got a clue.
I saw a video he did a couple of weeks ago.
In which he said, you know, I predict things and they happen. He said I was talking about the matrix two years
ago I mean, it's like what?
We don't even know what the matrix is Andrew. You haven't got a clue what it is. It's just a word that you throw
around and then you've got
Russell Brand Russell Brand sir, and another one who's a big here, but no further and the sort of stuff that he's
talking about I was talking about decades ago and
I And it's all, again, politics focused.
You have presidential candidates on, you have Jordan Peterson on, another one of these barricade brigade who knows nothing about the big picture and just focuses on kind of the psychological things, but then starts Commenting on everything, as if he knows everything, on things he hasn't got a clue about.
And of course he came out, picked a side with Israel, you know, give them hell Netanyahu, the tweet, which has been very, very damaging for him.
But all these people, and another one is Tucker Carlson, I've got Great respect for Tucker Carlson because he is seeing things at the level he operates within the political arena.
He's seeing a bigger picture than most people in his arena do.
But it still Five cents politically focused.
And what happens is these people all interview each other and give promotion to each other.
So Carlson will interview Bran, Bran will interview Carlson, Bran will interview Peterson, and Other people will interview Andrew Tate, et cetera, et cetera.
But what it is, it's a tiny, tiny fractional area of the picture, the massive picture that people need to see.
And people aren't going there.
So why, when Russell Brand is demonetized, not deplatformed as was claimed, and he claimed, Demonetized by YouTube.
All these characters all jumped to his defense.
It's outrageous.
It's because of what he's saying.
People like Ben Shapiro.
He's another barricade brigade at the Daily Wire where Peterson is and came out in support of Russell Brand and all that stuff.
Against the fact that I was demonetised from YouTube in 2018, thrown off completely in 2020, my channel, and I'm banned from 27 European countries, it's going to be 29 by the end of the year, banned from Australia, and the Barricade Brigade, who are freedom of speech, they said not a fricking word about it!
Why, when I've been doing this for 34 years, am I not mentioned by this barricade brigade mainstream alternative?
Why?
Because, well, two things.
One, they can't get their head around what I'm saying.
It's too big for them, so they just focus on the five senses.
The other thing is, if we mention him, if we support him, If we associate with him in any way, what are people going to think of us?
What's my audience going to think of me?
Because they're going to think, well, Ike's mad.
I know he's mad because we've been told for 34 years he's mad.
So if you're associating with him or praising him or quoting him, then I'm not sure I can follow you anymore.
And so it becomes a clique.
The alternative media has become a clique, a club.
And this week we've had the official launch, anyway, in this conference, of this organization called ARK, where Jordan Peterson, who's the front man for it, He's saying, you know, all aboard the Ark.
Well, of course, the Ark has massive symbolic connotations.
And what they're claiming is this is a challenge and an alternative to the World Economic Forum.
We posit that men and women of faith and decisiveness, made in the image of God, can arrange their affairs with care and attention, so that abundance and opportunity could be available for all.
We hope to encourage the development of an alternative pathway uphill, out of both tyranny and the desert, stabilizing, unifying, and compelling to men and women of sound judgment and free will.
Welcome aboard the Ark.
But when you, of course Peterson's clueless, he knows nothing about the world he talks about.
And, you know, another quick thing about him is he comes out with these, what do people call them, word salads?
Yeah.
He comes out with all these bloody long words and these things and he's thinking and he's face pulling and all that stuff.
And you've got Russell Brand who comes out with all this flowery language and all that stuff.
And at first hearing, people are going to think, ooh, he's intelligent, you know, ooh, look at the words he's using.
But then you go, stop.
Roll back the freaking tape, play it again, slowly, and let's see what they're actually saying.
And it's next to bugger all.
And so you've got Jordan Peterson who's fronting up this ARC organisation.
Just fronting it up, actually.
Claiming that, oh yeah, it was his idea and he was going around the world and he was talking to people and they said, oh yeah, that would be a great idea.
Well, if you look at the background to it, it's another version of the World Economic Forum.
Which is designed to pull in naive people from the alternative media and basically direct them.
So if you look at the people that fund ARK, an own arc.
They're the people, for instance, that created GB News, which is the most blatant barricade
here and no further organization you could think of, who've now given a show in the last
few days to Boris Bloody Johnson.
It's a joke.
But this arc is there to appear to be an alternative or a challenge to the World Economic Forum
when it's actually just another version of this, a repackaged version of the world economy.
of what the World Economic Forum actually wants, but put in a language that appears to be different,
which when you break it down, it's not.
And so you've got people who you thought had some idea of what's going on,
because they say things about, for instance, Eva Vlingenbruch.
Sorry if I've got it wrong.
In the Netherlands, who was saying some really sensible things about what the Dutch government is doing in terms
of the World Economic Forum agenda and what it's doing to thousands of Dutch farmers.
But then brags about the fact, celebrates the fact that she's been made a young leader
using the same bloody language as the World Economic Forum, a young leader of ARK.
And you know, Ivo kind of brings me to something else that I'm seeing is this suddenly God
becomes a big thing among increasing numbers of people in the alternative media, prominent
people, in the sense that there's a spiritual war and therefore I'm going to pick a side.
I'm going to pick a side and it's God.
But it's okay.
So what version of God?
Well, you know, Eva Realize that there was a spiritual war, as she said, and therefore she wanted to be on the right side.
So she went through an initiation ceremony into Roman Catholicism.
But if you do the background to Roman Catholicism, it's fundamentally part of this cult.
The Vatican and going further back into Into Babylon.
It's all part of this cult, but now she's picked that side in a spiritual war.
Jordan Peterson's wife is now going to be a Roman Catholic, it seems.
Tate's converted to Islam.
Yeah, then you've got Andrew Tate converting to Islam and putting out a really strange post this week about the fact that he's chosen by God.
I even saw Alex Jones doing a video this week and he talks about he's been chosen by God.
And what was concerning, you know, I've got respect for Alex, he's been at it a long time.
And he's done a lot of good things.
But he was saying that what God told him was that he was going to be a trailblazer, the trailblazer for laying out the path.
And then he basically he would hand over to very powerful people who would come on and come in and take it over.
And I'm thinking, Alex, man, that's what's happening.
And it ain't good because what's happening is these people have come in and we're going to come to a major one as I finish this.
These people have come in and they've taken it over and they've here and no furthered it.
So that the really big picture you very rarely hear about.
And by now, the whole of the alternative media should have been into that stuff.
Because as you ask questions and you know more, it takes you there.
But no, it's here and no further.
Do you think Trump will get in?
What about Trump and these cases against him and all this stuff?
And so we come to a major player in this.
You know what I'm going to say.
Of course.
Elon Musk.
Elon Musk has become this hero, almost worshipped hero, of the mainstream alternative media, because he's bought Twitter and he's a free speech absolutist, which he's absolutely not.
And one of the easiest ways to manipulate and scam people is to tell them what they want to hear.
And I keep saying to people, don't judge people by what they say.
Judge them by what they do!
And so you've got Elon Musk who's fronting up SpaceX, putting up low-orbit satellites to create the cloud to which humans are supposed to be connected through AI.
He's fronting up Neuralink while claiming this week he's been talking about dangers of AI.
And yet he started a company called Neuralink to connect the human brain to computers and artificial intelligence.
So don't listen to the words.
Look at what he does.
And Tesla, of course, which is the electric vehicle For most people, no vehicle agenda.
And the driverless cars.
They're the company that furthest advance on driverless cars.
Tesla as well.
Yeah, Tesla.
Everywhere you look with Elon Musk, he's serving the agenda.
But he bought Twitter.
Another name that I would throw in is Joe Rogan.
Joe Rogan's become the kind of, and he's another here but no further, barricade brigade with a vast audience.
He's never interviewed me, refuses to interview me, even way back when he was still on YouTube before he went to Spotify.
And he's the vehicle for so much of this.
I'm not saying he knows, but Peterson goes on his big audience show to announce the launch of ARK.
Elon Musk has gone on his show to talk about various things and to be eulogized, because he's a real Musk groupie, is Rogan.
He is, yeah.
And as one alternative website said, Elon Musk announces the Great Awakening.
Sorry, so it only exists there because Elon Musk has decreed it.
But what he said in that interview was that people have no idea how controlled Twitter was before he bought it.
And basically, to summarize, the deep state was dictating What was seen and what was not seen on Twitter?
It was completely controlling the censorship, right?
And my question had I been Joe Rogan, but of course Joe Rogan didn't ask it.
So it's two in all, or maybe it didn't even think about it.
So, Mr. Musk, you're a free speech absolutist, right?
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.
So, at the Deep State, they controlled Twitter, they were controlling what was seen and what was not seen.
Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Twitter, the Twitter files, they released them, they proved it.
So why did they sell it to you, mate?
Yep, absolutely.
Why did the deep state that had already controlled Twitter and what was on it and what wasn't, what was seen, why did they sell it to you?
More than that, why did they threaten to take you to court to buy it in the end?
So then you think, well, yeah, why did they?
Well, What's happened as a result?
He's built up all this credibility in people's minds, hasn't he?
He's become the hero.
Almost worshipped by elements, significant elements now.
In what I call the mainstream alternative.
Lots of the real alternative have sussed him.
Absolutely.
But they don't get heard in the same way as the barricade brigade.
And he has become a hero.
Yeah.
So Musk Twitter is part of this complete takeover of the alternative media in terms of its focus and in terms of what Most people perceive to be the alternative media.
While the people who are the real researchers, who are seeking out more and more knowledge and seeing how much bigger and bigger and bigger this is, they get marginalized.
And it's very dangerous what's going on because it's shutting out so much information that people need to know about.
Yeah, and I think the key area to look at to finish up is why.
Because there's always method in their madness, and the figures that they promoted, you know, your Brands, your Tates, you know, they all speak eloquently, they're clearly all media trained, they all come across to someone seeing it for the first time as somebody who was speaking with some degree of authority.
So they're clearly being sold, those people, because the subjects they talk about they're happy with because they're not actually going to really threaten the system, are they?
Whereas, you know, there's people recording podcasts in their spare room that are saying things that are far more terrifying to the system that don't get the audience for that reason.
Do you think, because, I mean, we noticed it even when you were on YouTube a few years ago, The videos that got the biggest numbers were the far-out subjects.
It was things like Saturn, things like the Moon, it was the real far-out stuff.
Do you think because there's this thirst from people now for that bit more, the Justified Senses, that's why this takeover's come now?
Because it's trying to cut that off before people can go there?
Yeah, exactly that.
You know, I'm on this speaking tour of Britain, the only place I can have a speaking tour at the moment.
I've been demonetized from YouTube.
Did I tell you that?
And in my presentation in the first half, I take questions in the second.
I'm really, really going deep in the rabbit hole.
I'm going into the hole.
idea that this is a simulation and with the evidence to support it.
More and more mainstream scientists are saying that it looks like we are in a simulation.
And then, of course, you're in a simulation.
Okay, so who's creating the simulation?
And as Rich Terrell, a NASA scientist, said in 2017, and said that this is a holographic simulation.
He pointed out the obvious, and because it's a holographic simulation, some intelligence has created it.
So the next question is, so what's that intelligence?
And so it goes on.
And I've been going deep in the rabbit hole in the presentations that you've seen yourself.
And the audience are going there.
Yeah, they want it.
And the interesting thing is, which kind of supports what I've been saying, is that The truly awakening people in the population are much further ahead of
Of the mainstream alternative media, and you can see how that is coagulated into a clique of here and no further, while the public, the awakening public anyway, they want to go down these roads.
This is why Iconic's becoming more and more popular, because we will go there.
Obviously I've been going there for a long time, because the point that That I would make that's actually driven me all these years is the philosophy quote of Socrates, the ancient Greek philosopher, who's quoted as saying that knowledge is to know you know nothing.
That is true knowledge, because the one thing you know that cannot be challenged is that whatever you know or
think you know, there's always more to know. When you see the narrow band of frequency that we can
actually see, which is so tiny, it's pathetic, and everything else is invisible to us in
the same space that we're apparently looking at, then you can't do anything but realize that
there's always vastly more to know than you currently know.
And so it should be, the alternative media should be a constant pushing of the cutting edge of knowledge, knowing that whenever you get to what you think is the cutting edge, there's always more to know.
And that's what I've been doing for 34 years.
This is why, you know, There's so much information, if you pursue it with an open mind and you know that there's always more to know.
But what's the barricade doing?
It's not interesting.
It's saying all you need to know is this.
What are religions saying?
Well that's... I was going to mention that.
What are religions saying?
And so much of the alternative media, not least in America, but elsewhere too, Yep.
dominated by religious belief and it's limited by religious belief and it's
edited by religious belief. So a great great chunk of the alternative media in
America is Christian based. And so if it's not in the Bible then it can't be
true basically.
Then you've got Andrew Tate, who's become a Muslim.
Now, that's just another religion, and it's a belief system.
Have it!
None of my business.
But it's a belief system.
It's got walls around it.
If you go beyond the walls, you're no longer a Muslim.
You're a blasphemer.
And so that religious aspect to all this is also a limiter of actually just saying, look, according to mainstream science, the electromagnetic spectrum, which is basically our reality, ...is 0.005% of what exists in the universe in terms of energy in all its forms.
And visible light, which is the only frequency band we can see, is a fraction, a tiny fraction...
of the 0.005%. So let's have a bit of humility shall we and realize that whatever we believe
we know there's always more to know and anything that limits us pursuing what there is more
to know is a straight jacket, a prison, a perceptual prison.
And religions are perceptual prisons.
Science, mainstream science, is a perceptual prison.
Academia isn't a perceptual prison.
But if you look at the alternative media, particularly the mainstream element of it, it's all connected and welded to the academic mind, the intellect, I mean Jordan Peterson, I rest my case, to religion, Yeah.
or to mainstream science in terms of what it perceives to be possible.
And all these are limiting factors on the population in general, but they're also limiting
factors on vast tracts of the alternative media.
And until we have a bit of humility to say, whatever I know, I know there's infinitely
more to know, and then we're going to pursue it, then it's a here but no further barricade,
and it stops people going into those areas where the true answers lie.
And where the real controlling force of this conspiracy within human society, where that really lies and what its agenda is.
And I can tell you from my own experience of pursuing that, that when you see the scale of what's going on and why it's going on, that's the question that uncovers everything.
Why?
Why?
This is happening, okay?
But why?
That takes you further on.
When you realize what's behind this, all the kind of mysteries of life and the mysteries of why society is structured as it is, they all fall away and you can see them.
And that's what the cult and that which controls the cult doesn't want people to know.
And it's created this alternative media barricade to stop people going there.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's so clear to see.
And when you've mentioned there, like, why, why, why?
Like a child does, it doesn't take an answer.
Something, you answer the question, why, but why, but why?
If you keep doing that, you're going to keep going further.
And that's actually what shocks me, is that's really exciting.
To sit here now and say, right, what we think we know about the world is probably naught point whatever percent of what there is to know.
That's fascinating.
Because that means in your lifetime, you can uncover, you can discover, you can evolve and learn so many things.
That's a really exciting outlook, rather than just, this is how it is, this is all it's ever going to be, just get on with it.
Yeah, well, I'll give you an example of the power of why, because it's basically driven me.
So in the early 1990s, when I started, I had my explosion in 1991.
In the early 1990s, I was uncovering the cult level of this, this network of secret societies Fiercely compartmentalized, but at the core, they're all the same organization and they move as one unit.
This is why things like COVID, virtually every country moved in the same way and responded in the same way because it was centrally coordinated.
But then you say, okay, so why?
Why are they doing it?
And you also, See that this cult has developed and expanded into what it is today a global phenomenon from way back and then you ask okay, so so what's the coordinating force?
Through this period where people have been born and dying and born and dying and serving the cult and born and dying through the generations, what's the coordinating force that spans that entire time?
Well, that takes you into other levels of reality, and then you start to see the non-human level of it.
And then you grasp, as I did just after the turn of the millennium particularly, I was thinking about it before that, that this is a simulation and more and more evidence comes
it is a simulation.
More and more scientists years later say yeah we think it is.
Then you say okay so this non-human force has created the simulation.
So why? And then you then then you realize that the why involves the fact that it's feeding,
gaining energetic sustenance from the low vibrational emotional and mental energy that
that we're giving off.
So then the question is so because this non-human force Is in the perceptual state that it is it wants to control and manipulate and it's psychopathic.
It's in a low vibrational state itself.
So if it's going to absorb energy from the population like Morpheus in the Matrix held up a battery and said the Matrix is a computer generated dream world designed to turn humans into one of these profound truth was spoken in that statement.
You realize that that low vibrational state of this demonic force Can only absorb energy that's within that frequency band.
So now you start to understand why within this reality, wars and conflict and suffering and depression and all these things are constantly going on.
And people say, why is the world as it is?
Why won't God do something about it?
And then you've got the New Age and the Eastern religions saying, oh no, we're paying back our karma or whatever it is, whatever excuse they come up with.
But what it is, is we are being manipulated into low vibrational emotional and mental states all around the base emotion or response of fear.
Because we're feeding these entities that are feeding off that energy.
So how you get from Oh, there's a conspiracy going on, and it's behind the politics of another group.
To that is constantly asking why, how, all these basic questions.
And that is stopping that happening on the scale it could.
And it's definitely happening now, as people are more interested in those more further out things.
As you say there, you talk about the non-human element, which is always kind of the way the mainstream have always tried to bash what you say, that's always what they go for.
But you've only got to look at the world now and see how anti-human it is.
Because you've got weapons that could destroy the entire planet, you've got technology that's destroying The oxygen molecule and water molecules and things like that that we need for the basics of life.
Bombs going off left, right and centre that's destroying the wildlife and the planet.
If it was purely about money for these cults and control, and they're humans, there's nothing in it for them if the planet's destroyed, is there?
So when you look at that, the non-human element becomes not just... it doesn't seem far out, it seems logical.
It's the only explanation, really.
Yeah, what's happened, Jay, since Covid, as more and more people have kind of started to see the world's not like they thought it was, It's more and more people have started to see that it is an anti-human agenda.
If you look at the Gates level of this, and that level with Klaus Schwab and that level of it, what they're doing is hijacking the basics of human survival.
They're hijacking the food.
They're hijacking the water.
They're hijacking the energy sources.
They're changing the atmosphere.
You know, when I grew up in the 1950s.
The amount of technological radiation in the atmosphere was minimal compared with what it is now.
It's absolutely fantastic the way it's increased.
And who's leading that through low-orbit satellites?
Elon Musk.
Another one to chuck in there is that natural appropriation is becoming more difficult for people.
Yeah.
And what you have, again, this phrase, know the outcome and you'll see the journey.
If you don't know what the outcome is planned to be, everything seems random and bewildering.
What's happening?
When you know what the outcome is, suddenly it becomes obvious.
So the outcome is the creation of human 2.0, which is a non-procreating human where the species will be procreated technologically in the
way that Aldous Huxley described in Brave New World in 1932.
And I explained in the books how he would have known that, he would have access to that
knowledge.
And so suddenly you start to see why sperm counts are plummeting, testosterone is plummeting,
why men are being targeted, males are being targeted with toxic masculinity.
And when they started targeting the men, I said they're coming for the women next and
they're coming for the women now.
Why?
Because the no procreating human of human 2.0 is...
Thank you.
Has no necessity for men and women, because there won't be men and women in that sense at the end of this process.
The war on the family, traditional family.
The war on the family, yeah, because what Aldous Huxley talked about in Brave New World is that the children were brought up by the state, that was the end of parents.
So you start to see then how The erosion of parental rights more and more dramatically, not least through the schools and social services, why that's happening, and you start to see why there is this massive focus on confusing children, even really young children,
in relationship to gender.
Because on the road to the no-gender human, you've got to psychologically prepare people for that
by, first of all, destroying their sense of male-female genetics.
So now the BBC is talking about there being a hundred genders.
Yeah.
Suddenly someone had this idea and then everyone had the same idea at the same time.
Let's have drag queens going into schools and libraries and reading books to really young kids and then strutting their stuff in the next stage, which they do now.
And you say, well, if you're going to confuse in the mind of a young kid, for life, their sense of gender,
then what better way than a bloke with a beard and a dress?
So it's all systematic.
And you get to understand that by constantly asking the question, why?
OK, the drag queens in the schools, why?
Exactly.
Testosterone levels are falling.
Sperm counts are falling all over the world.
Why?
And that's when the pennies drop.
And there's a war on why.
Yeah, it's like this show's called The Dot Connector, where you could look at sperm counts falling as a dot, you could look at drag queen story time as a dot, you could look at the rise in puberty blockers in kids as a dot, but actually they all fit together and are bringing about that same end, which is the end of natural procreation and the end of gender.
So to finish up then, We've talked a lot about the barricade and why there's the information that they're happy to be talked about and they're not happy to go outside yet.
What do you think the most important things or important topic for us as a race that want to explore further is for us to be talking about at the moment?
I think it's the simulation and it's reincarnation.
That's why my last two books have been about that.
This is where the Why is taking me?
And there's already, you know, gathering more information for the next one to take it on further.
Because, you know, you can say we need to change the world.
OK, fine.
And you can say, oh, we need to put a different president in and we have to change this, change that.
OK.
But in the end, this is what I'm saying is happening.
This is a simulation which has multiple levels.
You have the level we call human, which we're interacting with, which is actually just tiny, actually.
And that is because of its low vibrational state, because of its Intensity, that's the place where the most low vibrational energy is produced through emotional and mental states for this these entities to absorb.
The point that I ask again, again, the same word, why?
My question was, if this is a trap, I say it is, I can understand why consciousness, soul, whatever you want to call it, could be tricked into coming into this reality once.
But when you travel the world, I've been to 60 odd countries in the last 34 years, the great majority of people, human beings, are not having a good time.
They're trying to survive another day in really often terrible circumstances.
So my question was, when you leave the body, why the hell would you come back?
Yeah.
Right.
And this took me into this whole area of reincarnation and past lives and stuff, which I've seen enough evidence in the last three decades or so to for me to say, yeah, reincarnation is real.
But I don't buy for a second the official version of it, which is that we have to learn lessons.
We have to keep coming back here to have lives, to learn lessons and pay off our karma.
I don't buy that at all.
But when you leave the body, and you talk to near-death experiences,
and there's endless, endless accounts now, which are very common themes,
you kind of meet spiritual heroes.
I mean, if you're a Christian, you'll see Jesus.
If you're a Muslim, you'll see Mohammed or Allah or whatever.
And, or you'll see spiritual guides and spiritual masters appropriately addressed to fulfill your perception
of what one of them looks like.
Even family members have been taught?
Yeah, family members.
They'll be there.
For those that don't buy the religious stuff and the spiritual stuff, the family members are there.
And the common theme is that, you know, You have to go to the light, go through the tunnel to the light and all that stuff.
And the theme is that you then come back to have other lives in which you pay back your karma, basically, for what you've done in this life.
But of course, when you come in, your mind's wiped.
So you don't remember what you do, but not many remember your previous lives.
You don't remember the previous things you've learned.
And so you go into another period of energy production, and then you leave and the whole thing goes on.
And because of the nature of this world, and the fact that we are shut off from who we are, where we are, all of it, and the intensity of it, and the fact that we're manipulated to do things that produce low vibrational energy, Instead of paying off your karma, you add more to it.
So are you going to come back to pay that?
And on and on it goes.
It's what's known in the East as the Wheel of Samsara.
Reincarnation.
In and out, in and out, in and out.
And, you know, for me, you can focus on the politics and all that stuff.
Let me just give an example.
You focus only.
You shouldn't focus on here and now manipulation.
I do it myself.
But not only.
So you focus on that and you get to the end of your life and you think, yeah, I knew about Klaus Schwab.
I knew about the World Economic Forum.
I knew about the Bilderberg Group.
I knew about the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds.
I knew about them.
And then you leave the body.
And particularly if you are of a religious belief system, there's so many in the alternative media are, then you'll be met by Jesus or whatever.
It'll be Mel Hamid for you, Andrew.
And you give your power away to them, oh yes, Jesus, and you go through the tunnel, and then you come back.
And you might come back as someone who thinks conspiracy theorists are completely bonkers, right?
In other words, this has been an irrelevance if you don't understand that.
And the thing is that, and I write about this in The Dream and I talk about this whenever I can, there is a way to break the cycle of samsara and to stop coming back here and being trawled of energy indefinitely.
There's a way of doing it, and that's what people need to know.
And that's what that will never talk about.
Completely by design, because they know if people go there, that's the end.
The loose farm's over.
Yeah, exactly.
The whole thing dismantles.
But imagine, Christianity doesn't believe in reincarnation.
Islam doesn't believe in reincarnation.
So when you talk about reincarnation, immediate switch off won't go there.
And so you're in a trap.
100%.
Well, I won't see you next time because I'm not coming back, but sod that for a game of soldiers.
But you will be back in another situation, completely not remembering what you're doing now.
Unless the penny drops on what this is and the true scale of the manipulation and the perceptual manipulation.
And it's far, far bigger than the mainstream alternative will ever go.
It absolutely is.
That's why we've got to be the alternative media that will always keep pushing the boundaries of what there is to know.
Yeah, well, Iconic's job, the reason you created it, was to constantly seek out the cutting edge and then go beyond it.
And therefore, you have, with Iconic, an alternative media perspective that says, there are no limits to where we will go.
If the evidence is there, or the possibility of evidence is there, we're going there.
And that puts us in an arena that is light years further on than the mainstream alternative that I'm talking about.
And that's why ICONIC is so important.
Yeah, I agree.
This has been fascinating.
Very rarely do we actually get to just sit and chat and listen and it's been good.
So I'm looking forward to doing this every week.
Right.
Cool.
Thank you very much for tuning in with us this evening everybody and we'll be back at the regular time of 7pm Friday nights from now on.
Not always in the same room but... No.
Always with the same fascinating information and insights.
We'll see you next week.
Bye for now.
There's a lot of things that I've said over the years which were perceived to be crazy And then suddenly, they start to move mainstream.
I'm waiting for someone to convince me that we don't live in a simulation.
What is real?
How do you define real?
If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.