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Oct. 12, 2023 - David Icke
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David Icke Connects the Dots for Reiner Fuellmich. Part Two - David Icke Dot-Connector Videocast
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There's a lot of things that I've said over the years, which were perceived to be crazy.
and then suddenly they start to move mainstream.
I'm waiting for someone to convince me that we don't live in a simulation.
What is real?
How do you define real?
If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.
What if all you ever knew was a lie?
You just pointed in the direction of China and how what they've done in China over the last probably 30 years or so,
or maybe longer, is now becoming a reality in the Western world as well.
Um, if...
If you look at the BRICS Is this another illusion which they're using, you know, sort of like to play good cop bad cop?
Are they all in on this?
Are they all of the governments?
I'm not talking about the people, but the governments.
Are they all their puppets so that Even Putin and Xi Jinping are part of the whole game, part of the scenario of creating dangerous situations, war scenarios in Ukraine and in Southeast Asia?
Yeah, well, there's people who are in the know, and there's people that those in the know manipulate.
So, if you look around the world, particularly in the COVID era, my God, There are so many morons in political power.
I mean, just morons.
Daniel Andrews in Victoria, and these medical officers around the country, and Newsom, and all these people, and the governor of New York are morons.
Well, look at the Germans.
Look at the Germans.
You can't find any worse morons.
Oh yeah, exactly!
And suddenly, just very quickly, one of the reasons is because they're easily manipulatable.
Yeah.
But it's also because in this global society with a world government, world central bank, world army, world currency, digital, no cash, which I said was coming in 1992, I said that this is the plan and we want to get rid of cash through electronic currency.
And all of that stuff, The world government is not supposed to have countries.
It's supposed to break the world up into small regions and then have the super states like the EU above them and then the world government.
So countries are doomed.
And not only that, they don't want politicians elected.
They want technocrats.
You will come across this a lot.
They want technocrats and scientists and medical people and bureaucrats running the whole show unelected.
So they want rid of politicians.
So in the process of politicians, puppets, making decisions to push the agenda on, they are playing a part in their own demise because they don't want politicians.
So the more moronic... I mean, there's a wonderful example is Biden in America.
What the cult is saying, having put him in power, is we can put anyone in power.
Look, look!
And also, if you can put a complete moron, a senile man as well as a corrupt one, in power,
then you're going to break the spirit of Americans in terms of respect for their own country.
So, again, it's all psychological. They want rid of politicians, that's why they want morons.
But there are key ones that will know.
know.
And the Chinese leader absolutely will know exactly what his role in this is.
And this is why you get, you know, so many of these cult people, be they Gates or the Rockefellers, etc., who are very, very involved with China, because that's the blueprint.
So it depends.
whether you've got a puppet and the real power is behind the puppet.
And that's that's what they like most, because then they're not on public display.
The puppet is and they can bring in another puppet if the public get rid of him and what.
But there are some that are absolutely in the know.
And Putin, again, it's so compartmentalized, he will have a very good idea of this.
But how much he actually fully knows, I don't know.
He's certainly fallen for the bait, because they were baited into this war systematically, and he's taken the bait.
Now, did he take the bait because he's in the planets for him to take the bait, or did he take the bait just because he thought, I've got to do something about what's happening in Ukraine for Russian people in that Donbass, etc.
area?
Only he will really know that.
But when you talk about the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds and these major families that orchestrate the politicians, decide who's going to be funded into power and who isn't, they absolutely know what's going on.
One hundred percent.
I have no doubt about that one either.
But I'm getting more and more warnings by email and through text messages about don't trust the Briggs scenario.
This is just a distraction.
We have to realize that no one's out there.
There is no cavalry that's coming to our rescue.
We have to do it ourselves.
Well, that's interesting about Briggs because, again, By their actions shall they be known, and also again, know the outcome and you'll see the journey.
What the Brits grew, and they're inviting more and more people in now, of course, and one of them they're inviting in is Iran, or they're talking about inviting.
And I've been saying for years that Iran would be part of this Eastern alliance of Russia and China and others to take power from the West.
The BRICS thing is dominated by the East, so it's creating a conflict, it's creating
a tussle between two points of power.
There's the BRICS point of power, dominated by China and Russia, but particularly China.
And then you've got your NATOs and your European Unions and these other free trade groups in
the West.
And there's a point now of conflict.
And the BRICS group you'll see get more and more powerful and you'll see them pull in more and more countries.
They're talking about Saudi Arabia.
Imagine if Saudi Arabia becomes part of BRICS.
Well, look at the power that's taken from the West then because of the oil in it.
Wow.
And you're going to see this BRICS get more powerful because what's happening, as long planned, is the power is moving from the west to the east.
And so you have the human-caused climate change.
So what's the answer to that?
Oh, it's destroying the landscape and the seascape with With wind turbines, all right.
And what about solar panels?
Oh yeah, we'll have solar panels as well.
Lots of them everywhere.
Okay, so where's the majority of them?
Where do they come from?
Oh, China!
Oh yes, right.
Most of them come from China.
So what you've got is, and this is all connected, you've got China building coal-fired power stations and not building anywhere except lip service to human-caused climate change because they know it's nonsense.
But the West is being manipulated to go down this road of basically destroying its energy supply.
But not only that, the replacement energy supply, which isn't really a replacement, it's a myth, is coming out of China.
You've got China controlling the supply chain of really basic things now.
And it's all this power moving eastwards.
You've got China infiltrating South American countries, African countries, even European countries.
We've had this thing in Britain this week with A Chinese spy in Parliament.
And you go, oh, it's a furore, a Chinese spy in Parliament.
What?
Have you seen how much China has infiltrated Western society?
And intellectual property and funding of universities, buying up bark tract of farmland in America.
This is what's happening.
China is the blueprint.
And the cult operatives in the West are handing it to them, because that's the plan.
Sorry, hearkening back to the topic of Antarctica and the myths that may have some truth to it, that there are other civilizations, other species out there.
Is that a possibility?
Oh, I've researched that at great length over the decades, and there's definitely other civilizations within the Earth.
There's just too much evidence.
I mean, even down to good old boys in America out on shooting parties, seeing these entities coming out of cave systems and what have you.
And there's cave systems all over the world that go right back into history.
But, you know, One of the things that I've been, well, many things, but one of the things I've been laughed at about, dismissed about, which I find very interesting, that more and more people are now saying, well, hold on a minute.
I look at what's happening in the world.
I look at the unfolding dystopia.
I look at how this elite is seeking to control all the means of human survival.
The energy, the food, water, everything.
They're trying to control every element of human survival.
Well, People are starting to say, well, it's an anti-human agenda, isn't it?
So, okay, so the next question is, well, is it so much of a stretch then, despite all the ridicule I've had over the decades, that it might be a non-human force that's actually behind it, ultimately?
And I'll tell you what I've uncovered over the years is that this web, this global cult web of secret societies, is secret holds secrets obviously talked about but the biggest secret is actually it's a means of non-human entities non-human force whatever you want to call it operating outside of human
the visual range of human, and it's there to manipulate human society on behalf of this non-human force.
And the thing that I think, at the earliest age possible, that young people should be aware of, and it should be a matter of course, it's one of the first things they learn, is that when they look through their eyes into any space, wherever they are, they're not seeing everything that is happening and everything that exists in that space.
And the fact that that is known, the fact that that is not widely known, Shows why it's vitally important to suppress that knowledge.
That's why I put it out there every opportunity for decades.
Because so much comes from that knowledge.
According to mainstream science, in terms of what exists in the universe, the electromagnetic spectrum, which is basically our reality, our experience reality, is 0.005% of what exists in the universe in terms of energy in all its forms.
Some say it's as high as 0.5%, but it's tiny.
And visible light, which is the only band of frequency that we can see, everything we see
is within that band of frequency, is a smear, a fraction of the 0.005%.
So from that perspective, you realize actually that humans are basically lined.
And all other existence, all other realities exist outside of that band.
But they don't exist like a chest of drawers going up.
We look up for heaven though.
They exist in the same space, just like the old analog radio and television station.
And what you have is, you can have a television, say in this room, there was one, and you press the zapper, and you pick up a channel, and then you press another channel, another point on the zapper, and another channel comes up.
But when the new channel comes up, the old channel hasn't disappeared, it's still there.
It's just that your set is not tuned to it anymore.
And we are tuned through the human body, what I call a biological computer, to this frequency band, and that's why we perceive this reality and not other realities, unless you have some psychic ability.
So, from this, so many mysteries disappear.
Because people say to me, if there was a non-human force manipulating human society, why can't we see it?
Well, because you can hardly see anything.
That's why it operates outside of the human visual frequency band.
So, when people say, for instance, well, honestly, mate, I saw this UFO, and it appeared out of nowhere, and then it just disappeared.
Or they say, oh, this entity appeared at the end of me bed, mate, out of nowhere, and then it just, boom, gone.
And people, five cents reality, posting stamp consensus, you're mad, mate, that can't happen, what were you on?
But it's ever so simple.
If you can only perceive a narrow band of frequency, When something enters it, it appears to you, the observer, as if it's come out of nowhere.
And when it leaves your band of frequency, it appears to have disappeared into nowhere.
So, what I'm saying, and it's in great detail in the books, is that we, this reality, this human world, is being manipulated from outside of the human frequency band.
And what it is, it's like The old analog television radio, you can have a wavelength, and then you have other wavelengths in the same space.
And a radio or television picks up a particular wavelength.
And that's what you see on the screen.
That's what we're doing the human decoding system through the biological computer.
But all the other wavelengths, we're not even aware of.
But If the wavelength is close to that, to another one, then you have interference.
And there's a dimension of reality which in esoteric circles they call the astral or fourth dimension.
You call this the third dimension for want of a name.
And basically this astral dimension leads in to our reality.
It connects with it and kind of interferes with it, but not on a level that we are visually aware of it, but we can experience it, we can be affected by it.
And so I started to realize, and again, whistleblowers in America, In the military intelligence complex were telling me about the fact that our reality is manipulated and actually the human military is controlled by the underground bases and everything by this non-human force.
It seems to be dominated by a reptilian form but absolutely not always.
And then I meet a very famous Zulu shaman in South Africa called Credo Mutwa, who died in his 90s.
He was the official historian of the Zulu nation.
I met him towards the end of the 90s.
And he starts telling me, chapter and verse detail, there's a six-hour interview with him on our channel, Iconic, about A non-human force manipulating human society.
So suddenly I get bloody interested because when you've got whistleblowers in America, in this modern world, talking about it, and you've got a Zulu shaman telling you the same story.
So I started looking around the world.
I started looking at the different ways that different cultures symbolize this force.
Because what you do is you have the anthropologists and you have the historians, they go along and they investigate kind of ancient societies.
And they say, oh yes, these worship these gods, and these worship those gods, and they worship those gods.
And you go, hold on a minute.
Don't get caught in the names, mate.
Look at how they're described.
And what you find is this incredible correlation of how these different cultures describe these, quote, gods in the unseen, actually in this astral dimension.
And then you start looking at religions and you've got Christianity.
It talks about demons and Satan and the devil.
And where are they?
Oh, no, you can't see them.
Oh, thanks.
Okay, that makes sense.
And then you've got Islam.
They talk about the jinn and Shaitan and Iblis.
Where are they?
Oh, no, they're in the unseen.
And so this common theme goes on and on and on through religions and ancient cultures
and stuff.
So and then when I started investigating this cult and the cultists and these names, the
famous names, again and again I came across the fact that they were into Satanism and
pedophilia.
So what?
And so then you talk to Satanists around the world, former Satanists, people who have taken
part in rituals against their will, loads and loads of people I've talked to, and they
talk about the fact that these satanic rituals are interacting with the unseen gods.
and I'll see you next time.
And then it starts to dawn on you that they are worshipping the same gods as these ancient societies were.
And these gods are, quote, gods, perceived as gods, morons, are operating in this lower astral area, very close to
where it starts to bleed into our reality.
And this cold, its biggest secret is that it is imposing upon human society what this non-human
force once imposed upon human society.
And so when they're doing these rituals, and they've been described to be by many people who've taken part in them, they're interacting with these gods.
People have increasingly seen that children are involved in satanic ritual, in human sacrifice, young virgins to the gods, sacrificing young virgins to the gods, that that was code for children.
And this elite cult network is awash with pedophiles and child abuse and child trafficking And then you start to realize that actually Satanism and paedophilia are fundamentally connected.
And so why?
Well, and then you think, well, why ultimately is this non-human force manipulating human society?
What's in it for them?
And I go into this in the books in great detail.
I've just got a new one out called The Dream, which goes deeper in the rabbit hole than ever before.
And you realize that what this non-human force is doing is it's feeding off human energy.
But when we feel emotion, when we feel or when we think, When we have perceptions, this is mainstream science, we are giving off frequencies that relate to the nature of the emotion and the nature of the thought.
So, if you're feeling fear and anxiety and depression and resentment and regret, all these low vibrational emotions, that's a low, slow frequency.
When you're feeling happiness and joy and love, that's a high frequency.
These entities, just outside of human sight, because of the nature of their perception, the nature of the fact that they want to control everything, means they are in a low vibrational state.
And just as with radio stations and wavelengths, they can only absorb energy that's within the band of frequency on which they operate.
And so what they're doing is, is creating circumstances, events,
happenings in the world, wars, conflict, suffering, hunger, desperation to survive another day, because that generates
low vibrational energy. And when that Morpheus character in the
Matrix held up a battery, and said, this is a computer generated dream world designed to turn humans into one of
these, it was a profound truth. So for them, for us to be their
sustenance, if you like energetically, they have to keep us in a low vibrational state, all around the base emotion
of fear.
Bye.
And so, if you look at emotion, you're giving off a frequency depending on what the emotion is.
And you can see the body language of the emotion.
Like people go, ah!
You can see the body language.
And if you're sensitive, you can feel the vibes coming off, the frequencies coming off from the emotion.
Like, ooh, you know, fear and all the rest of it.
But what you can't see is the emotional frequencies.
You can't see it.
So where are they?
They're obviously outside the human frequency band of visual perception.
Where are they?
Well, what's happening is when we feel these emotions and we go into these states of thought, those frequencies are going into the astral frequency.
They're going into the astral band, which is very close to this one, and they're feeding off them.
They're feeding off those emotions and if they can create a situation where AI is dictating our perception and dictating our emotional state, Then we just basically become permanent lunch, because we'll be manipulated into emotional and mental states that just produce this energy which they are feeding off.
And so when you have a human sacrifice, what is happening?
Because my question was, okay, you're making these sacrifices to the gods.
What do the bloody gods get out of it?
And then you realize that they're doing rituals still today, they're doing Babylonian-type rituals in these satanic rituals of these rich and famous people of the cult today, because it's designed to generate maximum amounts of terror.
And they use sounds and colors and various other things and ritualistic happenings to generate a particular frequency.
And what they're doing is they are systematically creating in the sacrifice before it happens
absolute terror. And as that terror manifests, it manifests as a frequency, a very powerful,
low vibrational frequency of terror.
And it's going into this astral dimension, and these gods are feeding off it and absorbing it.
This is the sacrifice to the gods.
Now in this reality, The cultists and the satanists are drinking the blood of the sacrifice.
Why do they do that?
Because that terror, which in terms of frequency that these demonic entities are feeding off, in our reality, it sends an adrenaline into the blood, which these satanists It's like a nectar to them.
It gives them a high.
And they drink the blood at the point of sacrifice where this terror has infused into the blood this adrenaline, which people call adrenochrome.
So these people are pure evil.
I mean, getting across how evil they are is a real challenge because most people won't have come across this level of evil.
And they're morons, because they wouldn't do what they do unless they were.
But they're not stupid.
They're not doing rituals for the sake of rituals, thinking it's some stuff from ancient times, and they don't know what it means.
They know what it means.
They know what it's doing.
And they know what the outcome is.
And I've been told by a number of Satanists who've taken part in this around the world, that some of these major, major rituals of the big names,
the royalty and all that stuff, they create a conduit frequency between this astral
frequency and this one. It's like, often it's like a vortex which kind of spins the two
frequencies together and thins out the frequency difference between.
I know they've described to people, different people around the world, how these entities have actually manifested out of the astral into our into our reality. They can't stay here for long because of
the frequency difference, but they can do it via this ritualistic manipulation of the energetic field, the
electromagnetic field, so they can enter.
The common theme of people who describe this is that the Satanists,
i.e. the the cultists that we're talking about, are absolutely terrified of this non-human force.
And so one other thing on this point, something else I've learned very clearly over the years, is that We have a human hierarchy, which appears to be.
So you have a president, and you have the secretaries of state, and you have the head of the FBI, and you have a prime minister, and you have a cabinet, and all these different hierarchies.
And that's the hierarchy for public consumption.
But the real hierarchy, where the real power is, is the nature and power of the entity that's possessing you, that you are a vehicle for.
So it might be someone who doesn't appear to be that powerful in the human world of the human hierarchy, for public consumption, but actually is running the show.
And so in this way, what they do is they transfer the demonic hierarchy into the human hierarchy.
And the demonic hierarchy is different to that human hierarchy that we perceive as political economic hierarchies.
The people that are on public display, they're gophers.
They're all gophers.
Klaus Schwab, gopher.
Bill Gates, gopher.
The real power you never see.
And it's in the hidden, yes, but it's also in this satanic hierarchy, which trumps totally the hierarchy that we think is the hierarchy running the world.
This is the one running the world.
And this hierarchy is terrified of that.
Therefore, it will do whatever that tells it.
That dark hierarchy that we can't see, David, which the other, the visible, the gophers,
as you said, the visible hierarchy is terrified of.
Can they survive without the gophers?
They can't manipulate us without the gophers.
Okay.
Because there is a frequency difference.
It might not be massive, but there's a frequency difference between their reality
and our reality.
But they can only come in for a very short period in that state. The hierarchy in this reality
is their vehicle for them to control this hierarchy and to manipulate what happens in this
reality so that humans continually generate this low vibrational energy of survival, of fear,
of depression, all the rest of it, that they feed off.
It's basically an energy farm.
So if we take out of the game, those who are, as you said, the golfers, There's no way for them to continue to manipulate us any longer.
No, not at all, because the structure of perceptual control Okay.
through this cult. Okay. This cult didn't exist. That couldn't interact. It couldn't
impose its will because, you know, we're in a realm of frequency band where we attach to it
through the five senses, through the biological computer.
When we leave the body, we enter another reality.
This is why near-death experiences, who leave the body and then come back when they die and get revived, they tell a constantly common theme of the fact that the reality they entered was completely different to this one, in the sense of the so-called laws of physics are completely different, and what's possible is completely different.
We are locked in to this band of frequency because of the body.
The body is decoding this reality.
And I don't know what we've got, but I mean, I could go deeper into that and what this reality really is, because it's not what it seems to be.
And therefore, to interact with us, there has to be, this force has to take a form that operates through a body, like we do, and then you have the interaction, because we're in the same, basically, frequency band.
And that manipulation can take place.
Take that away, that can't affect us anymore.
That's very important.
Very important.
Because this is key, I believe, for us.
For us who are trying to stop this.
This is key.
If you don't understand that, you're not going to get anywhere, I'm afraid.
Good to know.
You know what?
That's why it doesn't make any sense to even think about whether or not all of our state sovereignties exist or don't exist because of incorporation of our countries, whether or not our agencies have been incorporated or not.
It doesn't make a difference because it's the spider web that controls everything anyhow.
We shouldn't even waste our time and energy on this.
You take the spider's web away, you take the spider's web away, the manipulation ends.
Because without a vehicle to manipulate us within the reality we're experiencing, they can't manipulate us.
It's like the twain shall meet.
Yeah, makes sense.
You wanted to ask a question, Doc.
That's what the cult's about.
That's the biggest secret they're keeping from us, is what the ultimate force is that's behind this.
And so when I talked earlier about this web around the planet, secret societies with a spider in the middle, This demonic force is the spider.
And you know, when I've traveled around the world, I'm sure you'll be the same.
It's not what's different that's hidden.
It's how so much is the same, but because we call it different names or we have a different way of expressing it, we think this is different.
What I've been looking for, I'm always Scanning for patterns.
What patterns?
And what's the common themes of the different patterns?
And this theme of a non-human force manipulating human society is universal, going way, way back.
It's universal.
And because of this control of what we call normal, This is fundamentally part of the foundation, in so many ways, of control of perception, is control of the perception of normal.
So what is normal?
Normal is only what we normally experience, and only what we're normally told is normal.
And so when you get people with a perception of normal, as narrow as you can get away with, they call that the real world.
I live in the real world, mate, not like you.
Because anybody that then goes beyond normal is either mad or bad.
He's either crazy or dangerous.
This is the control of normal, the perception of normal.
Because what you have, you see, you have normal all manipulated.
And anything outside of that, which can't be explained by normal, oh, that's the paranormal.
Well, actually, the paranormal is perfectly normal.
It's just not within the normal that we're told to believe in.
And all these different aspects, you know, I work on the principle of, described or at least attributed to the ancient Greek philosopher Socrates, paraphrased as, wisdom is knowing how little we know.
So, if you go on that principle, You can see that one thing above everything else is undeniable and cannot be challenged.
And that's this.
Whatever we know or think we know, there's always more to know.
So my question all the time, whenever I've got to a point, is what more is there to know?
That takes you deeper and deeper in the rabbit hole.
So what you have, and this is part of the manipulation, you've got the river of knowledge and possibility flowing forward.
And then you've got the Eddies, and they're little whirlpools in the river, and they're going round and round and round and round and round.
We call them religions.
We call them political systems, political parties, political persuasions, income brackets.
They're all little Eddies, and they're going round and round and round.
And it's like, oh yeah, I know everything I need to know now, and I know this and I know that.
And it's interesting, you will have come across this.
When you hear people Say, I'll tell you what my opinion is.
And what comes out is usually the official story, word for word.
It's not their opinion at all.
It's, they're just repeating what they've been told to believe.
And that is the foundation of human control and perceptual control, which means behavior control, which means control of human society.
That is what we have to break.
You know, we can talk about, you know, stockpiling weapons and all this stuff, and oh, we fight the enemy.
We don't have to fight the enemy.
There's no need to fight.
We have to stop cooperating with it, because the enemy has no freaking power, except what we give it.
We stop giving it away.
The enemy has no power.
We are the cause of what's happened in the world.
By acquiescing to authority, we take it back, house of cards, all over the floor.
And that's the That's the revolution.
It's not a revolution of fighting.
It's a revolution of non-cooperation with our own enslavement.
Then our enslavement cannot exist.
But you know, sometimes it helps to have a kind of a symbolism.
For me as a lawyer, the most important takeaway is, from what you're telling us today, is that we do have to go after the gophers.
I know it's just symbolism, but it shows everyone that it's us who are calling the shots.
And if we don't want to play along, if we want justice, if we want to hold these people responsible, then we will.
There's nothing that can stop us.
And if we cut off this conveyor belt, so to speak, we're destroying the spiderweb, and all of a sudden we will be able to see who we really are.
I think this is really what it boils down to.
Yeah, it's also informing people within the system who don't realize what they're doing, what they are doing.
I remember years and years ago, I did a talk at Earl's Court in London, and a guy came up to me afterwards, and he was an executive from Shell Oil, who'd been an executive in South America, and he said to me, I've just understood so much of what I was told to do, but I didn't understand at the time.
And so, you know, you've got the military.
I mean, the military are just gophers.
That's how they're seen.
I mean, Henry Kissinger has actually articulated it, it would seem.
But they're gophers.
Police officers are gophers.
They, their masters are not the population.
We saw that in COVID.
They are the cult, basically, through the hierarchy.
And, you know, again, not only can you not control 8 billion people, unless 8 billion people acquiesce,
you can't control 8 billion people unless you recruit gophers from the 8 billion people
to impose your will upon the 8 billion people.
These are police officers, these are the military.
And when people like that start to realize, and other people in the system start to realize,
A, what they're playing a part in without realizing it, who their real masters are,
and the fact that their kids and grandkids are gonna have to live in the world
they're helping to create, if they would then walk away
and stop doing what they're doing, then the whole thing starts to fall apart.
Because you've got a few people in a room Ultimately, the core of this cult, within this reality.
And they are saying, this is what's going to happen, that's going to happen, that's going to happen.
And then you've got that pyramid hierarchy of acquiescence and imposition, that then imposes and acquiesces to that.
If they didn't, they have no power!
They have none!
I don't care who they are, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, they have no power.
The power is what we give them and we've got to stop doing that and the realization that, hey,
if we don't do what they say, they can't make us do it, can they?
No, exactly!
It's so simple.
The answer is so simple.
The complication is control of perception, so that doesn't happen.
And that's what we've got to change.
It is changing, but we've got a long way to go.
It's in our faces, really.
A while ago, this constantly drunk Former President of the European Union, Jean-Claude Juncker, he actually, he explicitly said so.
We put something out there, then we wait until we can see if there's pushback or not.
If there's no pushback, we go one step further and another step further.
But if there is pushback, of course they're not going to get anywhere.
You're absolutely right, David.
Well, that's funny, because I've been using a symbolism going back to the 1990s, and I call it pushing the gate.
And that's what they do.
They push the gate.
And if there's no resistance, they walk on to the next gate.
And if there's no resistance, they walk on to the next gate.
They get resistance at gate number one.
They ain't going any further.
Exactly.
And it's like I said earlier, it had to get really bad before people say, this guy ain't opening me.
You've now crossed my line.
And that's where we're at.
And so it's a time of great danger, but it's also a time of great opportunity that we can create true freedom as opposed to the illusion of freedom and increasingly the
illusion of freedom.
I've got a simple philosophy on life.
Do what you like, so long as you don't impose it on anyone else.
Maybe once agreed that they want to do that, well, you do that, just don't impose it on anyone else.
It's when it's imposed upon others, that's when I get interested.
So we are looking at a global imposition of a dystopia, the scale of which, certainly in known human history,
we have never seen, in which an artificial intelligence will control everything,
except including the human mind.
And we're looking at, we're staring it in the face, but we can still bring it down.
Yes, we will.
We will.
Paul, you wanted to ask a question.
You had your hand up.
David, I wanted to ask, where do you think the leaders are going to come from to rescue humanity, call it what you will?
But I mean, we've talked a lot about the negative side of things in the last three and a half years, of course.
And where do you think the leaders are?
Where do you think they're going to come from?
Well, I hope that what people will do en masse is go to the bathroom, find a mirror and look at their saviour.
Because in the end, it's all of us need to realize we don't need a savior.
We need to stop cooperating with our enslavement.
That's all we need to do.
We don't need another political figure to save us.
In terms of leaders, well, you know, there's political leaders, they're all diversions.
Oh yeah, I'll give big power to this political leader and then four years from now, well, he's not done what he said he'd do, but everything's moved on four years, closer to dystopia.
They're buying time with this stuff.
In terms of leaders of another kind, which is leading by example, well, they choose themselves.
It's the ones that have the back button, this third group.
to look this in the eye and refuse to blink.
No, I'm not cooperating with it.
And you know, you know that one of the greatest ways that we are we are deleted of our power is consequences.
And we really got to put consequences aside.
Because when people look at, I need to do this.
And then they go, what are the consequences for me of doing it?
Oh, well, I'd like to do it, but not that badly.
Thank you very much.
What real leaders do, if you like, in this sense, is they put the consequences aside, because they're intelligent enough to see That the consequences of doing nothing are far, far more extreme than actually standing up now and saying no.
So they say no now.
And those examples can inspire other people and other people.
But the point is, what's this phrase, you know, a journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step?
Well, it starts with a few people who are willing to look this in the eye and say, I'm not cooperating.
And the more you can, if you like, spiritually, I don't like that word, it has connotations, but the more you can grasp the fact that ultimately we are not the body, we're not even the mind as we perceive mind, we are consciousness.
We are an expression, a unique point of attention within an infinite flow of consciousness, exploring forever, forever.
This is a brief experience in which we've got into this ludicrous, manipulated trap, we call the human world. And
the more that you realize that you are an eternal expression of
consciousness, consequences take on a different a different dynamic.
You know, you're not constantly focused on staying in this world, for instance.
But you know that this is just a brief experience and you leave anyway.
And it's like, okay, so these might be the consequences of me doing this.
But How will I feel when I leave the body and suddenly my mind expands?
How will I feel about so giving away my self-respect?
That I acquiesced and put my head down when I could have actually made a difference.
And I think that's the difference between those first two mentalities I talked about whereby you have the people that unquestioningly acquiesce.
What does that mean?
It means they have conceded their self-respect.
Then you have the second group that says, I don't want to do it, but what are the consequences for me is what I'm talking about.
And they do it because they fear the consequences and what are they doing?
They are deleting their self-respect.
Those first two groups are responsible for every tyranny in history because fascists and communists do not impose tyranny because there's never enough of them.
How those tyrannies manifest is the population acquiescing to the tyranny.
And then the third group, and this is the one that has to expand and it's massively expanded seasons. COVID, it's the one that says my self-respect is
not negotiable. No one is going to have it except me. So I'm not going to do what you tell
me. I'm not going to do what you tell me because you tell me and I'm not going to do what you tell
me because I fear the consequences of not doing what you tell me. My self-respect says I'm not
having it.
I'm not having it.
I'm not going to give my power away to you.
And at that point, self-respect is what has ended every tyranny in history.
People won't have it because they won't concede the self-respect.
And the other part of self-respect is respect.
Respect for everybody else's right to have a different opinion to you.
To believe what they want to believe or whatever, we'll have a debate and we'll have the free flow of chat and information and opinion.
That's fine.
The problem is not multiple perceptions.
That's a good thing.
I mean, in infinite possibility, you're going to have multiple perceptions.
The problem is, and this is where the manipulation goes, we're seeing it so clearly today, is when one perception says, this is my perception and it's going to be yours or else.
And that's where we are now.
And so often, this woke mentality particularly, it's articulating, it's too bewildered to realize it.
It's articulating and it is pressing for Exactly what the cult agenda is, but mostly it's too bewildered to realize that it is an architect of its own destruction.
And the antidote to that is, call me what you like, describe me as you like, demonize me as you like, laugh all you like, I'm still gonna say it.
And if enough people do that, the House of Cards comes down, and we're closer to it than ever before.
What a wonderful, what a wonderful, wonderful gift it is to be in a world, in a reality, when we have the opportunity of ensuring that future generations and kids alive today are going to live in a world of freedom instead of the tyranny that's coming towards them like an oncoming train.
What a gift!
What an opportunity for us to do that and I ain't going anywhere until it's done.
I refuse.
We may have lost Reiner temporarily.
Okay.
I don't know if his battery's conked out.
Oh, OK.
We'll do a cut edit here for the one who does that.
So, so great to see you, David.
I mean, I've watched so many of your videos on YouTube and lived through the difficult time when, you know, it was taken from you.
And, you know, nice to see you back on Twitter, of course.
I retweeted quite a lot of your stuff, so that's been great.
Yeah, I mean, you know, people think more people ought to wake up, and that's true, but I remember what it was like 1990, 91, 92, 93, 94, it's dreamland now, the number of people who are getting it.
I've gone from being Going down the street and being laughed at, to being stopped in the street and asking what the hell's going on.
It's been an amazing turnaround.
Because people are waking up from the dream.
Definitely.
I mean, look at people like John Kerry turning up in his private jet, telling us all to sort of do net zero and, you know, feel guilty for having a fridge on and all this climate change nonsense.
It's just unbelievable.
They have the audacity to fly in with all, you know, using all their fuel And telling us to, you know, not to drive ordinary cars.
Well, they're laughing at you.
They're telling you it's nonsense.
Exactly.
You know, and unfortunately, well, in terms of human-caused climate change, there's an enormous amount of the human population, don't believe it.
But the thing is, the activists of few, like the trans activists of few, But they have the entire cult system behind them and that's why the tail is wagging the elephant.
It's because the system is supporting them.
The corporations are funding them.
Left to public opinion, none of it would happen.
Because public opinion in general doesn't want it.
You know, we were talking briefly before we started about William Cooper, Bill Cooper.
He once said, There's a great big battle going on between good and evil at any one time.
And he said it's all about religion, folks.
It's all about religion.
And I just wondered what your thoughts were on that, briefly.
Well, I don't agree with that.
I agree with the fact that there are two forces at work.
And it's interesting, throughout human history, wherever you look, in whatever culture or religion, whatever, you see these two forces described in different ways.
But, you know, I don't think it's all about religion at all.
I think religions can be eddies in the river.
Because, you know, if you work on that principle of Wisdom is knowing how little we know, then anything that circles the wagons around a belief system is going to be denying you the free expression and the free exploration
of infinite possibility, infinite insight, infinite awareness, infinite knowledge.
And religions do that, because what do they do?
All of them, all of them, I don't care who they are.
They say, this is the belief system.
And if you don't believe it, you are in some form, a blasphemer and you're not in the religion anymore.
You don't, and yet what they are, they're circle wagons religions.
That doesn't mean there's not things in religions and in religious works that aren't valid,
but as a totality, they are eddies in the river, because they're limiting exploration
of possibility and reality.
And it's the same with mainstream science, mainstream academia.
They're circled wagons as well.
You know, if you're a scientist and you say certain things, then you're out of the religion.
Like, the woke is a religion.
You can agree with everything the wokers say, disagree with one little thing, you're out the door.
You're cancelled.
Because it's a religion.
And what religions do, and not all religions are what my father used to call bricks and mortar religions.
Religions are belief systems, and the belief systems are circled wagons.
You know, I mean, look at the possibility there is to explore, but no, this is what you need to believe, this is all you need to know.
So religions have served the perception control very, very well indeed, by becoming eddies in the river.
And like I say, you can pick things out religionally, you can pick patterns out, and you say, oh God, yeah, they see the patterns here.
But just to take it as a package, and you have to believe all of it, Well, you know, if someone could explain to me how the Old Testament God is the New Testament God, I'd like to hear it, really.
So it's religions are not the answer, absolutely not.
There's someone, I won't mention the name because, you know, she seems to be a lovely lady and very committed, but there's someone who says a lot of things, good things about Klaus Schwab and that level of it.
Very, very articulate.
Who's just converted to the Roman Catholic religion because she's of the opinion that it's a spiritual war and she wants to join the right side.
Well, I'm sorry, you've joined the wrong side because the Romans... Absolutely the wrong side.
That is obviously the worst of all religions as far as I am concerned.
Because again, if you take it back...
Much of the Roman Catholic Church, the Vatican level of it, came out of Babylon and what have you.
So it's a consistent theme through this period.
And again, if you can control perception by saying, this is what you must believe and nothing outside of it, Then you've got them.
They're not going to go on.
A number of people have said to me over the years, you know, I like what you say, a lot of what you say, but you don't believe in Jesus.
So I can't take you seriously, you know.
And if people want to believe in Jesus, go ahead, I've no problem with that!
Just don't tell me I have to, because I think the whole Jesus thing is symbolic, which is why it recurs in all different cultures.
Same basic story in different ways, and not to say it's not good symbolism, but, you know, we've got to learn to be at peace with other people having a different opinion.
And then everyone goes...
And then we can learn from each other because, you know, there's virtually no one in the world that hasn't got something valid to say about something.
So let's just chill out and listen to each other and respect each other to have different opinions.
But of course, if you do that, you open the floodgates to expanded awareness and expanded sense of reality.
They don't want that.
They want to hear it.
I agree.
David, you said that we are endless consciousness as human beings.
That's the core insight into humanness.
That's also my understanding.
We are not just flesh and bones, but what is looking out of our eyes, that's consciousness.
So why are you so saying I don't have to do anything with spirituality.
That's the core insight of spirituality.
That's the mark of spirituality to say.
I said that about spirituality because spirituality has connotations.
It's like love has connotations.
I love you darling, saw you down the disco.
I sense it.
But when love in the true sense is vastly greater But it's interesting, you mentioned there the body, I know this is really deep stuff.
I go into this in my new book, The Dream, which has just come out.
After the turn of the millennium, I had this overwhelming feeling that this is a simulation.
It's the equivalent of a virtual reality simulation, though vastly more advanced.
And what I was getting was that the limit of the simulation at this level, there are other levels, is the speed of light.
And there was only one guy at that time that I came across who was talking about this could be a simulation.
This guy called Nick Bostrom at Oxford University.
And then gradually, up to present day, more and more Mainstream scientists are starting to conclude that if you go down the road of the simulation hypothesis, then lots of mysteries of life disappear.
They become explainable.
And then in April 2021, there was an article by an academic in Scientific American, who said he believed, he concluded, that this is a simulation.
And the The limit of the simulation was the speed of light.
And he likened that to processing speed.
He said that you can encode the rules as you like into a computer game, but you're still going to be limited by your processing speed.
And of course, the speed of light appears to be the fastest speed.
It's not.
It appears to be.
Whereas particles are communicating instantly, way beyond the speed of light.
But where are they actually Communicating in other dimensions of reality, not the visible light level of reality.
One of the things I said just after the turn of the millennium was I felt that what we call the laws of physics are actually the encoded laws of this simulation.
So if you're encoding a virtual reality game, You encode the rules and the limits of the game and how the game's played.
Well, that, I say, is what the laws of physics are, which is why near-death experiences, consciousness leaves the body, completely different laws of physics because they've left this level of the simulation.
And for me, the body, coming into what you just mentioned, is a biological computer that is decoding the simulation.
That's why we only see this narrow band of light.
If you want to control perception, then you don't want a wide acuity of visual range, because you'll see into the astral and you'll go, oh, that's what's going on!
Do you want an ear?
Like in this narrow band of frequency we call visible light.
That's why visible light is so stupidly small as a sense of reality.
And so we are decoding through the body this reality.
And it's exactly the same principle.
One of the things that's really, really obvious to me Is that this technological explosion within the human world that we're seeing is a technological mirror of the way we are, we are creating and decoding reality, exactly the bloody same principle.
So you've got a computer and you've got Wi-Fi.
And if you said to people who knew nothing about computers, there is a field of Radiation in this room, and indeed anywhere that the radiation is projected, where you can tap into a global reality of information, what have you, adding to all the time.
You can go into it in South Africa, in America, in London, or wherever.
If you didn't know anything about computers, your reaction is, you're mad, mate!
Where is it?
I can't see it!
And yet, If people know about computers and you say exactly the same to them as they do now, they'd say, oh yeah, Wi-Fi.
I know about Wi-Fi, yeah.
And the only difference between, yeah, yeah, I know about Wi-Fi, and your magnet is knowledge.
That's all.
It is knowledge.
So if you can suppress knowledge, you're suppressing perception of possibility.
So you get then a computer and you say to people, Tell me about the Internet.
And they'll say, well, it's videos and it's graphics and it's text and it's colors and what have you.
Yes, it is.
But only on the screen.
Everywhere else it is Wi-Fi and electrical circuits.
Only on the screen is the Internet like that.
So what the computer is doing, it's taking information from a radiation field
and it's decoding that information into a completely different form on the screen.
We are doing exactly that.
And this is mainstream science.
What the five senses are doing, the five senses are what connect us to this matrix field,
is that they are taking waveform information.
I mean, sound waves and ears are classic, they're all doing the same.
They're taking waveform information, they're turning it into electrical information
and they are communicating it to the brain.
Different parts of the brain specialize in decoding the different senses
and then it puts together a reality.
So the external reality that we think we're experiencing is actually in here, just as the reality of the decoded Wi-Fi is inside the computer.
I'm looking at the computer now.
It's not over there.
It's not over there.
It's there.
It's inside the computer.
And our reality is inside here.
Now imagine if you're the inner core of this cult, and you bloody know that, And the population doesn't.
You're in a phenomenal position of manipulation now, because people don't even know the reality they're experiencing.
And I go further in the dream in this sense.
And I say it's this non-human force that's created this matrix.
It's like a perceptual field, which, what does that do?
It controls perception.
It controls our whole perception of reality, who we are, what we are.
That we're not consciousness, we're the labels of a human body, you know, you're Bill or Joe
or whatever. That's just an experience, it's not who we are.
But we are pressured to believe the experience is the I, and then they got you. Because all you
can do if you self-identify in totality with the labels of human life is you're
thinking limitation, I can't, everything is not possible. Whereas with consciousness, you're
thinking of yourself in a much more expanded way. Instead of little me, you are infinite me,
and that's a completely different way of interacting with life.
nightmare for the cult agenda, because they're the ones that say, no, I'm not having it.
And for me, what we call mind is an AI program.
I know this is kind of far out, but it'll explain in detail in the dream.
It's an AI program, but it's not an AI program that comes from the human realm.
It comes from the astral realm.
I call it astral AI.
What's happening is this whole simulation is being run by artificial intelligence.
No one's pressing buttons.
It's being run by artificial intelligence.
And what's happening is this astral realm level of much more advanced AI than anything we've seen even now is coming into our reality.
They're bringing it into our reality.
So they get more and more control of this reality through the same AI that's running the simulation.
Because I've looked at these different spiritual beliefs and these different spiritual accounts, stories and beliefs.
It's a kind of common theme.
It's, particularly in the Eastern religions, but others too, they say to reach a state of enlightenment you've got to go beyond mind.
You've got to breach the mind.
So my question, looking at this is, so what's the bloody mind then that we have to get over to become enlightened?
I say the mind is an AI program running through the biological computer.
And if we only are driven in our perceptions by the mind program, then pretty much when we arrive in this world, when we leave, is known as this program.
Just playing out.
What overrides the program is consciousness.
It's opening to consciousness beyond the program, beyond the simulation, where you have a panorama view of where you are and what's going on, rather than a myopic view.
You're in this world and you're of it.
So everything that you are perceiving and all the information you are forming those perceptions from are coming from within the realm that you're experiencing.
When you open your mind to consciousness, go beyond mind to consciousness, you're now beyond the manipulations of the matrix.
And now, because you're out into the great beyond of insight and infinity, and now you can see things you couldn't see before.
The number of people have said to me, Mate, it's so obvious, why didn't I see it before?
Because you were stuck in the mind level rather than the consciousness level.
And what people, in my view anyway, I'm just putting it out there, people will believe what they want.
When we talk about people awakening, what are we awakening from?
We're awakening from the mind program.
into levels that go beyond it and suddenly the world looks a different place.
And we're back now to why they want to connect the human brain to AI
because they want to reinforce the...
control of perception so it holds in the mind program and doesn't go out into consciousness.
And it was, what was his name, he's a very famous guy, which will come to me, a hundred
years ago, you'll remember.
Rudolf Steiner.
That's him, Rudolf Steiner, who talked about the fact that a vaccine was coming eventually,
that it would be designed to give to babies immediately, eventually.
that would disconnect consciousness, the spirit as you call it, from the body so that people become
automatons. Clever on one level, like to an extent AI is clever, it's not consciousness,
but it's clever in terms of the way it can process information. And it would turn humanity
into automatons and consciousness would not be able to connect.
And that's, I think, what we've seen the start of with the COVID vaccine.
And the reason they want to get it into everybody, and they're now coming back for another go, is because of the effect that it has in that way.
And I don't know about you, Rana, but the number of people, and my own experience too, who've said to me, People I know who've had the fake vaccine.
Fake vaccine.
It's not a vaccine by normal criteria.
They're not the same people.
They're not the same people anymore.
And the word that keeps coming up again and again is that they're just so vacant.
They just can't seem to function.
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of people have been saying that.
This has been shown to us by scientists, I mean real scientists, like Professor Sushrit Bhakti.
He says it induces personality changes, not in everyone, but in most people.
And then Peter, our friend, what's his name, the psychiatrist in the United States, States Peter Bragan.
He says it's as though this is lobotomy.
It's as though there's holes in their frontal lobes.
So that's exactly what's going on.
And the jab, this is my view, the jab is to Cut people off from expansion of consciousness so that this mind program becomes the dominant, actually the perception.
And also, this is another thing I feel, this self-replicating nanosystems that build in the body is designed to attach us to the cloud.
It's designed to attach us both Brain and body to this clouds This radiation cloud 5g 6g 7g in the pipeline to so that becomes our mission control And it's all about in the end.
I use a picture the talks that I do in some of my books you've got a computer and you've got the guy sitting at the computer with a mouse and the the keyboard and And the guy is symbolic of expanded levels of consciousness.
And the computer is symbolic of the human body and five senses and that perceptional level.
And what happens is, if you get a virus in the computer virus in the computer, First of all, your computer starts acting funny and it's slow, and eventually, if it's bad enough, the computer is taken over by the device.
And you're banging the mouse and you're banging the keyboard, nothing's happening.
You've completely been disconnected from any impact and influence on the computer.
And that's exactly what this whole thing is about.
to exclude consciousness from the perceptual formation of the human mind.
And that's exactly what this moron Yuval Harari says.
We have made you into hackable animals.
Well, it's not going to happen because some of us understand what's going on.
Some of us are beginning to, like myself, are beginning to understand what's going on.
And that's the first step.
As you said, it always starts with the first step.
And consciousness can override the program.
The program is the village idiot and the two-stone weakling compared with consciousness in its power.
And, you know, Harari talks about it, and then you've got the Moderna documents that describe the content of their vials as an operating system.
They know that what I've been describing is true, they just don't want us to know.
Exactly.
David, I have to get on a phone call with someone who is helping me with my move, but I definitely realize that we have to talk another time and go into more details of this.
But I think this is the perfect moment at which we conducted this interview because Building on what you told us, I'm going to do, as quickly as possible, another interview with Barry Trower.
He's the guy, you probably know him, he's the guy who knows everything about microwave radiation, frequencies, etc, etc.
Absolutely, I've read a lot of his stuff.
He's a really good guy.
Okay, I have to let you go, but I am extremely grateful.
This was great big fun.
Okay.
Thank you so much.
It's been great.
Any opportunity to get this stuff out there.
Yeah, we'll do this again.
We'll do some more of this.
Yeah, this is the point where we turn this around.
Yeah.
There's a lot of things that I've said over the years, which were perceived to be crazy.
and then suddenly they start to move mainstream.
I'm waiting for someone to convince me that we don't live in a simulation.
Smoosh, smoosh, smoosh.
What is real?
How do you define real?
If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.
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