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March 9, 2023 - David Icke
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Well, I want to start today by just looking at something that has been concerning me for a while about the way parts of the alternative media are going.
But before I kind of get into that, I was sent a clip this week Of an interview between Joe Rogan, the podcast host who gets millions for his shows, and Russell Brand.
And people have asked me many times over the years, why has Joe Rogan never had you on his show?
He's had Alex Jones on.
He's had even people like Bob Lazar on, the UFO whistleblower.
But never you.
Why is that?
And people who've actually been on his show have said to me, why doesn't he have you on?
Well, I can't answer that because I don't know.
I take it the furore that would follow might be part of it.
But I was interested to see this clip because it does lead me into something that's been concerning me for a while.
This is the interchange between Russell Brand and Joe Rogan.
Even in my lifetime, where I still worked in mainstream media, people like Alex Jones or David Icke, they were like, even people that were skeptical about them, or even people that ridiculed them, didn't try to posit them as dangerous.
And the same, I'm assuming, with Robert Kennedy.
Well, the David Icke one, they always made fun of him for lizard people.
Because he always would say that they're shapeshifters and they're lizards and there was no evidence.
It just seemed really preposterous.
And then in the beginning of the pandemic, he was trying to connect COVID with 5G.
There was a lot of weird, like, he's got some squirrely ones.
Well, first of all, let me clear up a couple of things there.
What I was saying about 5G and, quote, COVID, is that 5G can cause the same symptoms alleged to be caused by COVID.
Because what will really cook Joe's noodle is that I'm saying there is no virus, never has been a virus.
And this whole thing about, which you see in the mainstream media all the time whenever they kind of mention me, He's saying that COVID's caused by 5G.
Well, given I'm saying there is no COVID, that's very difficult to say it's been caused by 5G.
But the point is that the body is an electromagnetic field.
5G is an electromagnetic field.
Do we really think that one affecting the other might not be detrimental in some way?
I came across this, it's a scientific paper published by the US National Library of Medicine.
It was published on September the 29th, 2021.
That's a year after I was talking about 5G being able to mimic alleged symptoms of COVID.
It's a paper written by Beverly Rubick.
Who's involved in biophysics at the University of California, Berkeley, and is president, founder of the Institute of Frontier Science, and Robert R. Brown, a diagnostic radiologist, among many other things.
And this is the conclusion.
What they did is they looked into a possible connection, oh wait for it, that Ike's mad, between 5G and, quote, COVID-19.
The conclusion says, there is a substantial overlap in pathobiology between COVID-19 and wireless communications radiation exposure.
The evidence presented here indicates that mechanisms involved in the clinical progression of COVID-19 could also be generated according to experimental data By wireless communications radiation exposure.
Now someone else said that.
Who was it?
Over a year before.
Therefore we propose a link between adverse bio-effects of wireless communications radiation exposure from wireless devices and COVID-19.
And one of the problems with the alternative light media is it uses the same mental response mechanism as the mainstream does when it dismisses anything alternative.
And I call it the here and no further syndrome.
So, Connecting 5G with the symptoms, alleged, of COVID-19.
That's, by definition, to so many people, even in the alternative media, a step too far.
And by reflex action, that's got to be crazy.
With COVID-19... And of course, the biggie, the Mr. Big, is the suggestion that a non-human reptilian race could be involved in the manipulation of human society.
And so, we hear that, oh, he's just saying that and there's no evidence.
Are you having a bloody laugh?
I first introduced this whole theme in a book called The Biggest Secret, came out in 1998.
And since then, one after the other, after the other, after the other, after the other, some of them very, very thick and detailed works have taken on the evidence for what I'm saying.
And the evidence includes whistleblowers, military whistleblowers, who've come out and said, we worked in the underground bases and there are humanoid reptilians there.
Then you look at the cultural history of different cultures around the world.
And again and again and again, you see This reptilian theme and the theme of a non-human race operating from the hidden, which it means almost everything to humanity, as I'll come to, manipulating human society.
The oldest known focus of religious worship is the serpent, the reptile.
Goes back, it's claimed by historians and anthropologists, 70,000 years.
And then you have all the people that I've met around the world who've directly experienced this reptilian phenomenon.
So the idea that there is no evidence is utterly ridiculous.
But again, it's the same mental response mechanism.
This is too far out so that for me, As I look at it, they say, and therefore it can't be happening, and there can't be any evidence for it, because it can't be happening, so there can't be any evidence.
And this, here and no further, is why it's taken so long to get out Even what the mainstream alternative sees as reality, which is the manipulation of human society by rich and powerful elites.
Because whenever you push the cutting edge, there's the resistance and the fear that, oh, I'm going to lose credibility if I go down this road so I won't And I was interested to see this clip also from the Rogan interview from Russell Brand.
I wonder what our obligation is as people that participate in this conversation to ensure that there is a distinction made between the empirical facts that are discussed and then you in particular with your rather unique cultural space.
The sort of joy of speculation.
Because when you think about some of the stuff that Alex Jones has said and putting aside Sandy Hook and that acknowledged difficulty and transgression.
Some of it, as rhetoric, is amazing.
Yes, there are centralised systems of corruption that bypass democracy, and ultimately there is an agenda that can bypass administrative change.
Policies that come out under the Republicans are pursued by the Democrats, and the military-industrial complex are able through lobbying and through their overt and
covert connections to government able to dictate foreign policy, at least influence foreign
policy.
All of these things you can sort of demonstrate financially.
But when you start to describe it in terms of demons and reptiles, the kind of language
that like even 500 years ago was the ordinary way that, you know, he's a preacher isn't
He's somewhere between a shaman and a preacher.
He operates in that space.
And in a way, you need people on the cultural periphery to be able to say, watch out, watch out, watch the direction we're going in.
Because the thing is, is that the way that we're behaving at the moment is all underwritten by rationalism.
This is the, you know, follow the science.
This is the rational thing.
Putin is... But it's just as inaccurate.
It's not true either.
Now, of course, you know, like when you start talking about Well, UFOs until very recently, or lizard people, or shapeshifters.
You're entering into a territory that makes it easy for you to be ridiculed.
So I speak to you from the cultural periphery.
What was it Russell said?
That they have a responsibility, to anyone who talks about this stuff, to Have the confirmation of the distinction between empirical facts and speculation.
The problem is that they haven't got a clue about the difference between empirical facts I mean, I started out on this road, this journey of uncovering this 33 years ago.
I assume that some of the apparently far out things that I'm saying are speculation because
they haven't done the research.
I mean, I started out on this road, this journey of uncovering this 33 years ago.
And at that time in 1990, Joe Rogan was a 23-year-old trying to earn a living as a stand-up
comedian, and Russell Brand was 15.
Thank you.
So in this 33 years, I've been able to do a fantastic amount of research to produce the evidence that what I'm saying is happening is happening.
And so One of the headlines for the interview quoted Russell as saying that the veil is being lifted on the corporate political establishment now.
Well, the veil is being lifted.
Well, some of us were lifting it decades ago.
And what we were getting was ridicule and dismissal for saying now what more and more people are realizing by what's happening in the world is true.
And when we said it, it would have been described as, there's no empirical evidence.
And, you know, On the subject of that, first of all, you know, we get this idea of, oh, we know that, we know that there's empirical evidence called political.
Yeah, but how do you know that?
Because of the people on the cultural periphery who exposed it amid ridicule and dismissal.
On the subject of that, you know, I do remember Russell asking me on some of his shows many, many, many years ago.
And let's just say it wasn't to have an intellectual discussion about what I was saying about that kind of stuff.
It was basically to take the piss.
It was putting pictures on the screen and saying, is he a reptile?
Is he a reptile?
Is he a reptile?
And it reached the point once when I was doing a radio interview on a Russell Brand show.
I think Noel Gallagher of Oasis was on it in the studio and another bloke called Noel Fielding and I was on the phone.
And it got so bloody childish with, am I a reptile?
Am I a reptile?
That I decided at that moment, it's many years ago now, that I would never appear on anything to do with Russell again, because it was just a piss take.
Just a... So I was interested to see this quote from Tucker Carlson this week.
On Fox News, in relation to an interview he's done with Russell Brand, who he called one of the most forceful voices for the truth in the English-speaking world.
Well, you're only going to find the truth, never mind communicate it, if you're willing to pursue areas and to pursue research That looks for the cutting edge where the cultural periphery lies and actually where the truth lies.
There was a Dutch journalist this week who said this.
So amazing that this is again what we see happening.
Everything has been predicted, but the original predictors are ignored.
And it's, for me, deja vu, where you talk about the political economic conspiracy, and you are dismissed, ridiculed, and then it turns out to be true.
And other people come in, and they start talking about it as if they've just discovered it.
And yet, when you, who were decades ahead of the game, then say, actually, it's bigger than that, they treat you in the same way that treated you before.
Oh, no, no, it's all that speculation.
And, you know, I watched Russell interview a guy called Yuval Harari.
Now, this bloke is Klaus Schwab's Mr. Tech Man, Mr. AI Man, Mr. Transhumanist Man at the World Economic Forum.
And it was a wonderful opportunity to really nail this guy with some serious questions about the motivation and where this was going and why.
But there wasn't a single challenging question.
And, you know, if if we're going to uncover the depth that we have to have actually what's going on, then there can be no, there can be no, no go areas.
Because It's in the apparently far out that the truth lies.
Just as a political, economic, corporate conspiracy was far out once and now it's, oh no, it's happening.
So, are we saying then that this level of the corporate political conspiracy is as far as it goes?
Well, just a little peruse of the facts will show you otherwise.
And, you know, if you don't keep pushing the cutting edge and go where it takes you, then what you're doing is just poking around in the symptoms Without getting even close to the cause.
I mean, do we really think that Klaus Schwab at the World Economic Forum and Bill Gates are it, where it's at?
You know, you've only got to put your toe in the rabbit hole before you pick those two up.
They're nowhere near where this is coming from.
And, you know, It takes a bit of humility, really, I guess, because, you know, I keep saying, because it's so important, because if you don't realize this, then you dismiss loads of things that are actually happening, is that humans can only see a tiny, ludicrous, ridiculous fraction of what there is to see in whatever space they're looking at.
According to mainstream science, the electromagnetic spectrum, which in many ways is basically this reality as we experience it, is 0.005% of what exists in the universe, and visible light, which is the only tiny frequency band that we can see, is a fraction of the 0.005%.
And if you don't realize that, you say, oh, the idea of an unseen force manipulating human society, that's speculation.
That's not possible.
There's no evidence.
And then there's this, and kind of Russell Brand hit on it really there, where he said, I remember when people like David Icke weren't considered dangerous.
So the question then is, well, why am I?
And if I'm this nutter, who's saying these things with no evidence, then why is it that I'm banned from Australia, I'm banned from 26 European countries in the Schengen border system, which means I'm banned from basically the entirety of Europe and many other countries around the world who use the Schengen system as their criteria for who they allow in, including the United States.
Why is this nutter banned from all those countries?
Why have we now reached the point where the Dutch government that instigated this 26-country ban actually in its official document explaining why, mentions
the fact that I'm talking about a reptilian race manipulating human society.
Why can't I get on any mainstream show to talk about this, even if, you know, just take the piss?
Thanks.
Thank you.
Russell's been on major, major shows in America in the last week or so.
So has he in Britain.
And as far as I know, while I'm banned from 26 European countries and all the rest, banned from Australia, he's not banned from anywhere.
When a Russell Brand video was deleted by YouTube, it was a big thing.
Oh, censorship of Russell Brand.
But I was taken off the freaking lot in April 2020 for exposing the Covid hoax that turned out to be true.
Why the difference?
And I'll tell you why.
And I'm not...
I'm going to go personally at Russell.
I'm looking at the level that he's operating at, and the apparently cultural peripheral extreme that I'm operating at, and the difference between the two in terms of pushback from the system.
The reason is that on the level he and all these other people talk about, Is not considered a mortal danger to the system, if you're talking about the political level and the economic level and all that stuff.
Indeed, the World Economic Forum and the rest of this global cult I talk about, they want the political and economic system dismantled, criticized, people losing faith in it.
Because they want to replace it in the Great Reset.
So, this is my problem.
Well, it's not my problem, really, but it's my concern, put it that way.
And that is that the alternative media is increasingly dominated, always was to an extent, but more now in my observation than ever before, by here and no further people.
Those that will go so far and then stop, which means they're light years off the cutting edge of what's actually going on.
You know, Russell may say that, you know, when you talk about demons and reptiles, it makes you easy to be ridiculed.
Well, yeah, God, well, I couldn't care less.
I'm interested in the truth.
And so-called demons and reptilians are absolutely part of that truth.
But what I'm seeing is the Alternative media turning into like an eddy in a river, instead of flowing on, seeking greater and greater understanding.
I mean, the idea that there's not more to understand when you can see a fraction of what exists in the space you're looking at is ridiculous.
But instead of flowing on with a river, it becomes an eddy.
It goes round and round and round and round and stops moving.
And stop seeking greater and greater understanding of what's going on.
And what has happened?
I mean, there's some great things have happened as a result of the COVID hoax from a point of view of exposing actually what's going on in the world and the fact the world's not like people think it is.
But something else has gone on.
It's a lot of people have come in to the kind of arena Of the alternative media because they are saying the jabs dangerous or this or that about COVID.
But what they're bringing in also is the rest of their belief system, which is overwhelmingly mainstream.
And there's been this influx of mainstream thinking.
Into the alternative media and it's kind of what I've seen is this kind of ring fence going up.
A resistance to moving on and seeking greater truth because it's become the mainstream light in so many ways.
Honorable exceptions, yes, but in so many ways.
And, you know, I get contacted by people.
It's hilarious, really.
I get contacted by people who are talking about some of this stuff on a mainstream light level.
And they asked me what I think is going on and I tell them what I've found and all this stuff and all that stuff.
But the proviso is, you're not going to tell anybody we've spoken, are you?
Right?
So what happens then is I see my stuff repeated, the mainstream kind of part of it, mainstream alternative part of it, not the real stuff.
With no kind of, you know, this is where I got it from.
They just repeat as if it's theirs.
And the proviso is always, don't let anyone know we've spoken.
It's just between me and you.
And there's great dangers in this.
There's dangers that this whole great area of unexplored understanding of what's actually behind all this doesn't get explored and doesn't get debated.
And that's what this cult wants.
That's why it's quite happy for the alternative media to operate in this mainstream light situation.
but starts banning you from all and sundry when you go beyond that.
And it also kind of has an effect in this way.
When you are not driven by seeking out the truth, but you have some attachment to how people see you, Then that affects where you'll go, what you'll research, and what you'll say.
For example, people say, where did the virus come from?
Well, it fits in to the mainstream alternative light, if you like, mainstream light, that it came out of a Wuhan lab.
So when suddenly, from all angles, the system is putting that out into the arena, oh yeah, it's a woman lab, is it an accident or on purpose?
Then it's like, I can go with that, because it fits my belief system.
And it's credible with my audience.
Instead of saying, well, Let's look at the evidence that there never has been a COVID and that it was all a scam that I talked about in a recent videocast and many, many more going back right into the COVID lockdown period.
But you can't go there because what will people think about that?
And so the cutting edge sits there.
Being ignored.
And you know, I'm, I think Tucker Carlson is great in America, in Fox News, on the level he operates at, because he probably goes about as far as he can get away with Fox.
And I watch his show every morning.
He does some great stuff, not least this week with the January the 6th footage that exposes so much that I'm going to come to shortly.
But That level is not going to uncover where this is coming from.
And if you don't know where it's coming from, how can you stop it?
Which is why it's so important that we keep pursuing the cutting edge and Don't dismiss things with evidential support just because I'm not even going to look at the evidential support there can't be because it's crazy and there's too much of that going on in what calls itself the alternative media but it won't be going on here.
I started out as a maverick and I shall leave this world as a maverick and I've just Well into a book now that will challenge virtually every belief system that you'll find anywhere in the world.
Because the cutting edge is a long, long, long way from where we are and where the mainstream alternative is.
And if we don't pursue it, Then we will go on spinning in that eddy until the river of the cult washes us away.
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The whole basis of the manipulation is to divide us.
And it's to get us to judge each other, to hate each other, to envy each other, to compete with each other.
It's to confuse people, especially the young, about their gender, who weren't confused before.
That's what it's about!
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