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Power Structure Of World Rule - David Icke
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We're very honored today to speak with David Icke.
David, thank you very much for agreeing to this interview today.
Pleasure, Daniel.
Well, I would guess that most of our viewers are familiar with you, but for those who aren't, we could do a very short bio.
Maybe we should go straight to the Wikipedia page.
What does Wikipedia say?
That's quite long, isn't it?
And a lot of it's inaccurate.
Absolutely.
I was just going to read the first sentence, though.
It says, David Von Eyck is an English conspiracy theorist and a former footballer and sports broadcaster.
Would you like to add anything to that?
Well, I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
I'm a conspiracy researcher.
Yes.
And what is a conspiracy researcher?
It's someone who questions if authority is telling you the truth or not.
That's basically it.
And of course, conspiracy theorists came out of the CIA in terms of its widespread use in the 1960s when they were trying to discredit people that didn't believe that a bullet in the Kennedy assassination did U-turns.
And so, you know, it's now being used and parroted as a metaphor for not telling the truth, misinformation, disinformation.
And I'll give you an example of that personally.
Because on November the 6th, I was supposed to speak in Amsterdam at a peace rally.
And when it was announced that I was going to speak there, a whole furore broke out.
All manufactured, of course.
I shouldn't be allowed to go because I was an anti-Semitic, I was a Holocaust denier, and all that stuff.
And that kind of got the furore going among the virtue signaling classes.
All of it kind of nonsense, of course.
Yeah, can I just interject?
What in the world is...
Does anti-Semitism have to do with an anti-war speech, or is this something they're just dragging out of your past?
Oh no, they're not dragging it out of my past, they're dragging it out.
Because if you have someone who is saying something you don't want people to hear, and it's reasonable and factually supportable, then you don't take them on for what they're saying, you invent what they're not saying.
But where I'm going with this in terms of conspiracy theorists is, eventually, 24, no, 48 hours before I was supposed to speak, in fact I was on the east coast of England waiting to go through the Channel Tunnel to Amsterdam, the Dutch government announced that because I was a threat to society, I was going to be banned not just from the Netherlands but from 25 other European countries and that means lots of other countries on top of that because the Netherlands is in what they call the Schengen group of countries that share a common border policy so if you get banned by one you get banned by them all but other countries including America use the Schengen criteria for well
They do, when it suits them, to stop other people coming into their country.
And it's the same with other countries around the world.
So I'm basically banned, as I sit here, from great tracks of the world.
But where I'm going with this, in terms of conspiracy theorists, is some wonderful people in the Netherlands, lawyers.
They thought this was appalling, what has gone on.
And so they challenged the government in court.
And what happened is I took part in the court case.
They wouldn't even let me into the Netherlands to appear at the court case.
It was such a danger.
And the government lawyer dropped the whole claim about anti-Semitism and Holocaust denying and all this stuff because he couldn't stand it up.
So what they did was say that I was anti-government, and by being anti-government, i.e.
saying the government's lying, which the Dutch government, like all governments, but particularly the Dutch government in many ways, does by reflex action, that I was a threat to democracy.
And then, this is the point, when the judge, quite obviously it was going to happen, gave his judgment, he said that The government were correct in banning me because it was clear that I was a conspiracy theorist.
So what we have now is a situation where if you challenge the government in terms of it telling the truth, you are dubbed a conspiracy theorist.
And if you're a conspiracy theorist, then you can be banned from 26 European countries.
So this is where it's going.
And this is why this whole thing about conspiracy theorists and conspiracy theory is is so important because it's becoming central to the justification for silencing dissent.
So even on that level, those opening lines of the Wikipedia page make no sense whatsoever in terms of reality.
But then again, most of what's on Wikipedia doesn't.
Yeah, I think it's about time we just bury that term, if we could, because, I mean, why do we even have the word conspire in the English language?
And if there is such a thing as conspiring, if people conspire, heaven forbid us theorizing about it, right?
Yeah, and most of what people have Had described as a conspiracy theory as was the passage of time turned out to be true.
Well, of course, there are some conspiracy theories where you're saying, well, looking at the evidence, it looks as if it could be this.
That's the thing.
Okay.
But a lot of it is actually provable fact from the evidence and through the passage, like I say, of the decades, so much that was a conspiracy theory, as more and more actually turns out to be true.
And that's the reason they want to discredit it, of course.
If it wasn't true, then they wouldn't have a problem with it.
It's a fact that it is true that they have a problem.
And what we're seeing, and this is society in general, it's the way it's structured, everything is inverted, everything is upside down.
And there's no greater example of that than misinformation and disinformation being terms of abuse for people producing credible evidence.
Delivered by people who are lying through their teeth 24 hours a day, even in their sleep, probably.
So we have to not worry about labels and get upset about labels.
We just need to keep pounding out what we're saying, because in the end, The thing that gets people to look at other possibilities more than anything else is their own experience.
And since the turn of the COVID era, people's experience has been that freedom is being deleted at an ever faster rate of not.
And that's the thing that they're terrified of.
And what I said decades ago was that The plan was, this is why they introduced in many ways the reason for the internet, that eventually they wanted a situation where no one would ever see or hear anything that wasn't sanctioned by the government.
I mean, straight out of 1984.
And that's where we're going.
I mean, we've got a legislation going through the British Parliament called the Online Safety Build, which is designed to further delete the very foundations of freedom of speech.
Similar laws are going through around the world.
And the reason that this is happening is, we come back to the core.
foundation of it, is that authority is lying to us.
It's lying to us on a scale perhaps never seen before in terms of volume.
And because it's lying, it can't stand the light of examination.
So the whole idea of censorship is to stop that examination.
Yes, yes.
I don't understand why this isn't more obvious for everyone.
Conspiracy theorists, normies.
When you go to a court, or when you have a court case in Holland, and they say that the charge against you is that you're anti-government, what constitution in the Western world, or probably even in the world, has it written that you can't be anti-government?
That's outrageous.
Yeah, and the thing is that, you know, we went to court with it and we're going to continue with it, but we went to court with it not thinking we were going to win.
But probably knowing we weren't, because it was obvious, this is the level of the way the system's stitched up now, is the checks and balances of government authority, they're just illusions.
And so you knew that this district judge in the Netherlands wouldn't dare go against the government.
And so he made a ludicrous decision and judgment that because I was a quote conspiracy theorist it was justified that I was banned from 26 European countries and he was far more okay with intelligent people seeing that as an outrage than ever he would have been with going against the government that employs him and who he Yes.
he upsets at his peril.
So this is how it works.
The whole system is stitched up.
And I'm not saying every judge is corrupt, though a lot of them are.
Corrupt not necessarily in the sense of taking money, but corrupt in terms of moral corruption,
in that they will make decisions based on what's good for them rather than what's good
for justice.
And that, I suggest, is what obviously happened in this case.
And this is the same all over the world.
It's the same with what you see in America.
I mean, you know, I was staggered when I first heard the term, the judge is a Democrat, the judge is a Republican.
It's like, what?
What's it matter what the politics are?
And why do we know anyway?
What relevance is it?
If you're a judge, in the proper sense of the word, you're making decisions on the evidence, not on your political persuasion.
And once you have a situation, as you so often do in America, that if it's a Democrat judge, you know what the decision is going to be.
Or if there's a Supreme Court Democrat Republican split, you know what the split is going to be.
Well, justice is gone.
It's finished.
It's over.
It's an illusion.
And what we've been seeing decade by decade by decade is more and more of the sources of information, the sources of justice being Occupied by what I call this global cult, which is ultimately behind world events and not the here-today-gone-tomorrow politicians that we're supposed to believe are behind world events.
They're the gophers, that's all they are.
Yep, yep.
Okay, you know, I think their next step will probably be the anti-Semitism thing didn't work.
Arguing against the government, I hope that fails, but I think the next thing they're going to whip out is the age-old nugget, as we move further into this war, providing aid and comfort to the enemy.
They don't want you talking against the war.
No, and the thing is that they were actually bringing the terrorist law into this equation.
And I'll tell you something else, too, which even surprised me.
You know, I've been talking about the fact that ultimately behind this, in the shadows, is a non-human force.
I've been saying that for a very long time.
And as the agenda for the world becomes more blatantly anti-human, A lot of more people are starting to say, well, hold on, he might not be quite so crazy.
But what was staggering to me is in the judgment by the immigration department of the Netherlands that I shouldn't be allowed in, the original judgment that I got two days before the event, included the fact that because I'm saying a non-human force is behind human events, then that's another reason For me being banned because dehumanizing the freaking government.
And as I said, why would I want to dehumanize the government when it's doing it brilliantly without any help from me by dehumanizing the population?
Let's not forget, this is the Dutch government headed by this gopher, World Economic Forum gopher, Mark Rutter, who is seeking to take away the land of 3,000 Dutch farmers because of, quote, climate change policy.
And given that the Netherlands is, by value, the second biggest exporter of food in the world, how's that going to work out for humanity?
So this network, working through these politicians, is dehumanizing humanity and now says we've got to ban this guy because he's dehumanizing us.
They're doing it themselves.
They don't need my help.
Right.
Okay, I'd like to move on to the, um, to the plandemic, if we can, which seems to not have ended.
It's continuing on, raging still.
Do we have enough forensic evidence to bring the perpetrators of the COVID scam to justice?
Uh, what are some of the most damning pieces we have?
What are some of the things we could bring out that they cannot refute?
Well we did, we have already in terms of the fake vaccine.
Yes.
You know it's quite an eye-opener when you go in search of the truth so you're willing to go where the evidence is, where the information takes you.
And that's what basically what we call the alternative media does.
It's looking for the truth.
I don't always agree that it's found it, but I do with most of it.
It's a sobering realization when you step out of that arena and you talk to people that just get their views from the mainstream media, how although fantastic numbers of people have died after having this chat, and had their health destroyed by it, how few people, because of the control of mainstream information, actually realize this is so.
I've talked to people and they go out to chat.
Did you know this?
Did you know that?
No, I never knew that.
What?
So, you know, there's this massive divide Between people that go looking for information, then scan the VEZ system, scan the yellow card system, the same thing in Britain, and look at all the young people who are keeling over after having this jab that never were before in the numbers that they are.
You look at the excess deaths literally around the world now that have been triggered since the rollout in 2021, particularly 2021.
And yet, vast tracts of people have no idea that this is so.
If that information was put before a public court and genuinely, properly reported, then enormous numbers of people in the system would be in jail.
And, you know, this is the point when you're talking about prosecution.
Unthinking stupidity, unquestioning stupidity, where people like doctors and nurses and politicians and all that stuff, who should know better, their job is to be informed.
But instead they just believe what ultimately, if you go deeper in the rabbit hole, a handful of officials and people are telling them is reality, i.e.
this jab will stop transmission and so on.
There is that level of stupidity where you just believe what you're told and then you do it without question.
I don't know if I'd call it stupidity or willful ignorance, but the result is the same, right?
Yeah, well, stupidity, willful ignorance.
Basically, if you take what authority tells you without question, you are choosing to be ignorant.
It's a choice.
So you have that level, but this is the but now.
There is evidence galore that's come out, not least through the, you know, people's personal experience, where there was a poll recently in which, you know, an enormous percentage of American people believe that they knew someone who'd been health damaged by the jab or killed by the jab.
People's personal experience of their eyes and their daily interactions and what they're being told is completely different.
But this is where I'm going with this.
The evidence now is there.
They know the carnage and fatalities this has caused, and yet they're still going on telling people to have the jab.
And you see by the dramatic drops in people who are doing that, How increasingly personal experience, and maybe looking at other evidence outside the mainstream, is starting to impact on their actions rather than just unquestioningly believe in government.
But if you know, and they do, this ignorance is no longer a A defense.
If you know what's happened and you're still pushing it, that's not ignorance, that's psychopathy.
And you know, one of the hardest things it's been to get across in this last 30, 33 years now, nearly, that I've been doing this, is the scale of evil that we're dealing with.
You see, evil for me, my definition of evil is the absence of love.
And that includes, as if you look at what's called the hair test, named after the guy who developed it, the hair test of psychopathy.
If you have enough of these hair test traits, you become officially a psychopath.
The top two are lack of empathy and lack of compassion.
And that they are manifestations of a lack of love and they manifest then as what we call evil.
And if you have a lack of empathy, the ability to put yourself in the feelings and the experience of what you're making them feel and experience, you can't put yourself there and therefore empathize with the impact you're having on them.
then you have no limits.
There are no limits anymore because you have no emotional consequence.
So, you know, Empathy, for me anyway, is the fail-safe mechanism of human behavior.
If you have empathy, that limits your actions, because you have an emotional consequence for what you're doing to people.
I would just say to anyone that's still saying they would never do that, imagine if you didn't have that fail-safe, empathetic ability.
There was no emotional consequence for you, no matter what you did, i.e.
extreme levels of psychopathy.
It would mean that not only would they not never do that, they would get off on doing that.
Yes, yes.
This is what's happening with these people.
So this is a...
The difficulty that people have in imagining the scale of evil we're dealing with means that when it's pointed out, you get, oh no, they'd never do that.
No one would do that.
No, you wouldn't do that.
They would.
They are.
Right, right.
They love it.
Yeah.
We fail to put ourselves in their psychotic mind.
Yeah.
Speaking of empathy, I remember when I was a little kid, there was this radio show in America called CBS Mystery Theater.
And there was one show, it was really good, it was called The Chinaman Button.
Have you ever heard of it?
It was called the...?
Chinaman Button.
No, I've not heard of that.
What's that?
Well, it was some, I don't know how it happened, but like, in this story, an American or a Brit could push a button and you'd become a millionaire, but some Chinaman somewhere would die.
And so it was a test of your empathy.
And I think our rulers today have, they're pushing the Chinaman button all the time.
They have no empathy.
There's an interesting addition to that, you've probably seen it, where they did this experiment on how people would do what they're told just because someone in authority told them.
Yeah, the Yale experiments.
Yeah, when you press this button and you hear someone scream, and someone's in a white coat telling them to do it, they do it.
They go all the way to the death zone in the electric shock.
Crazy.
Yeah, but it's interesting we've got into this because if you put those two mentalities together, you have the reason the few control the world.
Yes.
You've got the few.
It's not as few as people think, mind.
I read that the number of psychopaths in the world is about four percent.
I mean, you are joking.
It's much bigger than that.
But it's not anything like the majority, of course.
So you have the psychopathic mentality which has no empathy and just does what it wants without consequence.
Emotionally.
And then you have, and they press the China button.
Yeah.
And then you have those, the great vast majority, who, well not, there's fewer now than there were, but there's still a majority, who will We'll do what authority tells them, just because authority tells them.
And you put those two mentalities together.
And that's how, throughout human history, the few have always controlled the many.
Yes, yes.
David, you mentioned how people who are looking for information and want to find out stuff have one mind frame, and then the other people that don't want to know anything about it have another, and people like you and I are surprised at how much people don't know.
But then you mentioned the athletes dropping down, and there's a lot of blokes in the pub watching the soccer games, and I'm sure you know the case of Damar Hamlin, the NFL cornerback who just conked out the other day.
When people see that, I mean, you're talking tens of millions of people live watching that, gets hit, stands up, adjusts his helmet, falls straight backward, just like the soccer players, just like the basketball players.
Are you familiar with the concept of Crime Stop, the Orwellian concept of Crime Stop, where you train your mind not to think wrong thoughts?
I wonder if that's going on in the mind of the people in the stadium and at home when they see this, they're like, OK, something's going on here, but I know what I'm not supposed to think.
I'm going to be a crazy conspiracy theorist if I think this has any connection with the vaccine.
I think people are really engaging in this in this Crimestop.
Yeah, yeah, I think you're right.
And I think there's another motivation.
Which is because of the enormous number of people who took the fake vaccine.
It's not really a vaccine by previous criteria.
They have an investment.
in what it's doing, not being what it's doing.
So that's another incentive to dismiss.
Basically, it's a version of change the subject, don't want to talk about it.
Yes.
Because you don't want to face it.
But, you know, you've raised an important area Because as I said earlier, it's extraordinary to meet people who, after all this time and all this evidence has come to light, have no idea that this evidence exists or what's happening is happening.
But because the mainstream media has shut it down, because the mainstream media is controlled by this cult, just like Silicon Valley.
But where the Achilles heel is on all this is professional sports people.
That's right.
Because they're doing it, often live, but they're doing it in the public eye, and you can't hide that.
Because when a footballer or a hockey player or basketball player drops and collapses, Then it's reported.
It has to be reported.
They'll hide why it's happened, but they'll report it.
And the numbers have just gone through the roof since the rollout of the fake vaccine.
And that's one area that they've not been able to cover up the cause, but not the actual happening.
And that has awakened a lot of people.
And, you know, what You know, people might just ponder on, who are in any way new to this, is could it be that only professional sports people are having these consequences?
No, of course not.
Oh yeah, we've got this jab and it only kills and maims professional sports people.
No, of course not.
But that's just an area they can't cover up.
So what the hell else is happening in the body of the population?
And answer the same.
I completely understand this, I really do, but if you've had two, three, four fake vaccines and you start to see what's happened, what's happening to people who've had it, that wasn't happening before, the same number, then of course you have this investment in just shutting down, shutting it down and explaining it away.
Because this is another point when we're talking about the difference between what is done in the alternative media and what is done in the mainstream media and authority.
It's a very, very powerful point.
And, you know, I've experienced this so many times.
Telling people what they want to hear is the easiest thing in the bloody world.
Easiest thing in the world because their door is already swinging.
It wants to think that what you're telling them is true.
Talk to professional sales people.
They're trained to glean in conversations with their potential clients what the client thinks and how they see life because then they start Agreeing with them or saying things like, yeah, like you, you know, I agree with you on all this stuff.
And you get this thing going between them.
It helps you sell your product.
So telling people what they want to hear is easy.
It's the easiest thing in the world.
Telling people what they don't want to hear is a trick because they are absolutely Far from the door swinging open, it's rammed shut with a lock on.
It doesn't want to believe it's true.
And so that's the challenge.
And so when authority comes along and says, oh no, all these, I mean, have you seen the excuses they're coming up with for all these young people having heart defects?
It's unbelievable that the absurdity that they're coming out with in their desperation It's commercial corditis.
Yeah, if your door is swinging open, you really don't want, because you've had the jobs, you really don't want to face the possibilities.
But in the absurd, you will believe because it's what you want to hear.
And, you know, you get this too, interestingly, in the alternative media in some areas.
Where some people come up with a sense of what is and want to believe it's true.
Right.
And then when you challenge that maybe it's not true, you get attacked by people in the alternative arena too.
Right.
Well there's one currently and I've had, you know, one before.
Because I didn't buy the Trump hype and I absolutely don't buy the Elon Musk hype.
And the thing is, of course people would love to believe that this guy's coming forward and he's saying all the right things and he wants to challenge the The tyranny, i.e.
Trump.
And it's great to believe that this guy, Musk, is coming forward and he's really a free speech absolutist and there's not another agenda in the background.
But, you know, if we are going to question mainstream society, we have to question everything.
Yes.
And see if it stands up to scrutiny.
And again, Because you don't want to believe that it's not what it seems to be, you get pushback.
But, you know, if you're really in for the long haul, and if you're really into it completely, in terms of seeking out the truth, whatever it is, then you do what you think is necessary and right, and not what you think is going to make you lots of friends.
That's the last thing you need to do if you want the truth.
Yes, absolutely.
I would like to talk briefly about Elon Musk a little later.
I want to finish up with the COVID pandemic stuff.
You know, when you say that people have this They have these reasons where they do not want to acknowledge what's going on.
But it's funny, they must be experiencing a little bit of cognitive dissonance, because as you've said, the uptake on the boosters, the first, the second, I don't know, the third boosters, is way, way low.
And so their actions speak louder than their than their unwillingness to talk about it.
Like, they don't want to talk about it because they don't want to acknowledge it.
But in their actions, they're showing you, maybe subconsciously,
yeah, these guys might be right, I'm going to be careful here.
Yeah, and that's a great thing. Like I say, you know, if you're trying to understand why
people do things, you've got to put yourself into their position.
And I completely understand why jabbed people don't want to know what's happening to other jabbed people.
I completely understand that.
But you're absolutely right that although they might not buy it openly, they might not even buy it personally.
They're not going to have any more.
Yes.
And so, you know, in so many ways, apart from the ones that you'll never, this side of the other side, persuade authority is lying to them.
Apart from them, we pretty much won the argument in terms of the jab, in terms of their action, if not their open acceptance that they've been scammed.
Yes, that's right.
I imagine from now on there's not going to be too many NFL players getting further boosters.
And an interesting anecdote from that game where DeMar Hamlin went down, the first story out of the news was, well, the officials considered it Wise, prudent to stop the game.
They never did that in the history of NFL football.
You go to an American football game, there's always an ambulance at the side of the road because there's concussions.
It's all kinds of things happening all the time.
And then the game goes on.
And so that was what they said happened.
But I read something.
OK, it was in the comments, so I can't corroborate.
I don't know if it's true.
But I read something that said the players refused to go back and play.
And that seems to make sense to me.
Because the star player on the Buffalo Bills, a guy named Josh, I don't know what his last name, he and star wide receiver were the only two to not get the jab.
I mean, the quarterback's the captain of the team.
So I wonder if they got together and said, we're not getting back on that field.
Yeah, well, you know, this whole thing about having the jab and not having the jab was a real, It was a parting of the ways, if you like, between people that really think for themselves and stand by what they believe, and those that will be swayed either by unthinkingly unquestioning whatever the authority tells them, or so many others, so many others, maybe even the majority actually,
Who had the jab because they didn't want the consequences of not having the jab.
And those that stood by their belief that, no, I'm very skeptical about this, I'm not having it.
They are the ones now who are benefiting from the fact they haven't had it.
And there's been a, you know, almost a kind of a turnaround because those that weren't having it, of course, of course, me included, you included, I'm sure, they were attacked, lambasted, demonized, accused of killing people and all that stuff.
And one of the big, pivotal times, I think anyway, certainly in Europe, I'm sure it permeated into America big time as well, Was when at the European Parliament before Christmas, a Dutch member of the European Parliament asked a Pfizer official about their trials to see if the fake vaccine stopped transmission.
And it turned out that she admitted that those trials were never done.
They had no idea if it stopped transmission.
So what they were doing was lying to us and imposing it upon people through consequences with jobs and work.
And this includes people in sport, of course, on the basis of it would stop transmission and you're putting other people in danger when Pfizer had never done any trials to see if that was the case because of course the jab has nothing to do with health it was to do with much deeper uh agendas much more sinister dark and demonic agendas actually and and that that got a lot of people very angry certainly in Europe when they thought the very reason for me having it and being told that was the reason um turns out to be not only not true but
And even test for it.
So they knew it wasn't true, but they told us it was.
And, you know, if people just let that sink in, two things.
One, they told you to have the jab and give you consequences for not having it on the basis of something they knew wasn't true.
I've seen the consequences of people having the jab on the basis of something that wasn't true, and yet they're still telling you to have it.
Now, just let that sink in.
And ponder on the scale of psychopathy and pure empathy to the evil it takes to do those two things together, because that's what authority has done.
And, you know, the jails don't exist, really.
To encompass the number of people that should be in them for the rest of their lives, not least people like Bill Gates, who knowingly lied on a global scale for an agenda that's deeply, deeply dark and sinister.
And that man could not only be in jail, he should be forced to reincarnate endless times to complete the bloody sentence.
What should he be forced to reincarnate as?
Well, as someone once said in a comedy show, knowing my luck with my life, if there is such a thing as reincarnation, I'll be coming back as myself.
So I think the worst possible reincarnation for Bill Gates is coming back over and over as Bill Gates.
Waking up every morning and realizing you're still Bill Gates, that's gotta be a nightmare, a nightmare, surely.
Right.
Well, to kind of finish up on the COVID part, So we have the evidence.
We've got the forensic evidence.
It's slam dunk.
If it was presented in a court, it would be a win.
Now, we're not about to be allowed the keys to the doors of the Hague.
The Supreme Court is not going to let this one get in.
The authorities don't want to hear it.
What sort of public venue... How should we go about this if we can't get in via the normal means?
I mean, should we go with the semi-normal means?
Should we go to the Oxford Student Union and have a debate?
Where would you bring this thing to the public so it's not just on BitChute and Odyssey and... I won't even say YouTube because it won't be there.
No, it won't be there.
What you have to do, first of all, the censorship is not an expression of power.
It's an expression of vulnerability.
Yes, yes.
Because I don't want to censor anyone.
I'm quite happy for what I'm saying to be openly debated and other people to have a different opinion, because I'm confident that I can support what I'm saying.
Those that can't support what they're saying, and this cult in all its global expressions
knows it can't, they have to censor alternative views and opinion and evidence because they know
it will demolish their own. So first of all, they're not coming to censorship from a situation
of strength but of weakness.
And the fact that they're upping the ante constantly on the censorship means they're getting more and more concerned.
about how many people are starting to awaken to what's actually happening.
Maybe not the whole big picture but levels of it.
Enough for the penny to drop with people that the forces that are controlling the world are not the ones that they see and they're told to believe.
But in terms of In terms of politics and that road, it's really stitched up.
I'll give you an example from this country, Britain.
We have a conservative government, the equivalent of your Republicans really, that oversaw The Covid debacle, catastrophe.
Yes.
That brought in the fake vaccine.
The opposition parties called the Labour Party, your equivalent of the Democrats, and they said not that the Conservative Party policy was fascist, which it was, but that it wasn't fascist enough.
Right, yep.
When this conservative government now, or this guy Rishi Sunak, another World Economic Forum gopher, is removed at some point, it will have to be replaced by the Labour Party.
And the Labour Party will do everything to Britain that the Democrats are doing to America.
Same policies, everything.
In terms of political choice, it's not there.
And the penny drops when you realize that politics is not there to change anything.
Politics is there to perpetuate what needs to be changed.
And so If you look at the days when loyalty ruled everything, and there's a reason why that was too, you had one king or one queen imposing their will on the population via the gophers in the armies, etc.
And then when humanity rejected that, because that was really in your face, Obviously, the few controlling the many.
Yeah, the people knew where to point the blame.
They knew, they could see that they were under the control of a monarch.
So eventually, you had this movement from monarchy to, well, we've still got it in this country, staggeringly, to politics.
And so this cult, which goes way back, had to find a way of replacing the monarchy control in your face with a form of control that appeared to give power to the people, but actually didn't.
And so they came up with this structure of political parties.
And so this is how it works.
Political parties use normally two, sometimes three, but normally two in America's classic example, that have any chance of forming a government.
And they're hierarchies, they're pyramids.
And when you enter the pyramid, if you're going to progress up the pyramid, then you have to be in line with what the hierarchy of the pyramid, the party, wants you to be.
So if you go along, say you want to be a run for a member of parliament in Britain, you go along to the local constituency party and you have to sell yourself to.
And you sell yourself by repeating what the hierarchy of the party wants you to believe and wants you to be.
And then as you get in, If you want to be rebellious and go against the party line, well, that's okay for as long as you survive, but you're not going to get into government.
You're not going to get into the hierarchy of the party.
If you're going to get into the hierarchy of the party, then what you need to do is stay in line with what the hierarchy of the party wants you to be.
And the hierarchy of the party is a very few people.
And this happens with both the governing party and the opposition party.
And the key thing to understand politics is when you get to the peak of these two pyramids, where these parties are apparently in opposition, the next stage this goes takes you into the shadows.
They both answer to the same masters.
And so, if you look at the American example, you have this guy, what's his name, Mitch McConnell, the so-called Republican, who is absolutely in line with the democratic policies.
Because the hierarchies are answering to the same master.
You know, within the Republican Party in America, you'll get rebels, but rebels in the rank and file of Capitol Hill, if you like, you won't get rebels at the top of the hierarchy.
And it's the non-rebels that usually get into those positions of power.
And we just had another one with McCarthy in the House, who again, he's a A Republican, really.
Oh, but they forced him to make all kinds of concessions.
Well, that's the great thing, is that someone or a few people had the backbone, as well as the perception, to think we've got a chance here of getting something out of this situation and not just Rubber stamping.
Rubber stamping the party line.
Now, this is a fantastic metaphor for the whole of the system and the population in general in terms of what we can do and where we can go.
It depends how badly you want it.
Now, you know, those people that stood up and said, we're not going to vote for McCarthy, for Speaker of the House, without concessions.
They knew they were going to get demonized.
They did, by idiots.
And they knew they were going to be very unpopular, but they did it anyway.
And that's what you have to do.
If you don't, if you just put your head down and think, I don't agree with this, but what are the consequences for me of saying it or doing something about it?
Then all you do is you allow the psychopaths to prevail.
That's how it happens.
So If you look at politics in the way I've described, it's basically a form of monarchy, but it's a hidden form of monarchy.
Where it's not quite so obvious.
So they tell you that you have the power because you can decide who to vote for every four years or five years or whatever it is.
But actually, you're voting for masks on the same face.
That's what you're voting for, with honorable exceptions.
And what we're seeing now, and I was staggered, I have to say, when I first came to America.
Electronic voting was coming and I thought, what, what, excuse me, electronic voting?
How would you ever know?
And so, and it's, it's very, I mean, you're not supposed to, to question the last election that Biden was elected, but I mean, what is the most obviously blatantly scammed election that I've ever seen?
And so what, what they're doing now is they've gone to this next level whereby they're not only manipulating who they want in power by manipulating public perception, they're actually scamming the elections.
So the people that were really, you know, people like Kerry Lake in Arizona, for instance,
and others who were standing up for what they believed to be right and would push back in office
on this whole woke cult, actually, agenda, they were targeted not just by the Democrats,
they were targeted by their own party and people like Mitch McConnell in terms of funding
and everything, because it's a one-party state all around the world, but we have to think
it's a two-party state or we'd realize it's just another tyranny that's replaced
the monarchy tyranny.
And so the question comes, if we are going to do something about what's going on, instead of looking to politics we need to look at the calculator.
We need to see 8 billion people being imposed upon and the direction of their world and lives being dictated by a literal, compared with the 8 billion, handful of people.
That's how it's possible.
It's why it's been possible throughout human history.
Why is it possible?
Because of the acquiescence of the billions, in this case, to the few.
And throughout human history, The few have controlled the many because the many have acquiesced to the few and obeyed the few, done what the few told them, or not wanted to do it but fear the consequences of not doing it so they do it anyway.
That's how the whole thing has worked.
The conspiracy would come crashing down.
If people, A, stopped not questioning authority and insisted that everything authority tells them is questioned and justified by the evidence.
If they grew a backbone and said, when I see it's not right, I'm not going to do it.
They would then join the third group that has ended every tyranny in history.
They're the truly renegade people.
Yes.
Who see they're being lied to and refuse to cooperate with the authority that's lying to them.
I thought we might transition into a new area.
So, KLATV is a Swiss-German organization, and the majority of our listeners will be German speakers, and I think they're going to be really interested in hearing your opinion on a new matter coming out.
The issue of debt restructuring in Germany, there's a new act coming out called the Burden Sharing Act.
It comes into force on January 1st, 2024.
And the idea is that the deficits that they've run up are so high during the COVID era, all the spending that's been going on during the COVID era, they're going to have to pay the bill.
And so in this debt restructuring act, they're going to put it right on the people and it's going to become a massive tax.
I mean, it threatens to bankrupt all kinds of people.
I guess in the States, we do it a little different way.
We just debase our money, right?
We just spend, spend, spend.
But in Germany, apparently, it's just going to be a direct tax for all the debts that they've incurred.
And my team sent me a note and said, in short, we're heading for a total dispossession analogous to Klaus Schwab's Great Reset.
You will own nothing and be happy.
I'd like to hear your comment on this one.
Well, I have a phrase I've used for decades.
Know the outcome and you'll see the journey.
If you don't know the outcome that's planned, then daily events, including things like this, seem to be random and unconnected to everything else.
When actually, they're not random and they are connected to everything else.
So, let's look at the outcome.
I've been describing for decades now the structure of society that's planned for us, if we go on going as we are.
And I've called it the Hunger Games Society.
And I called it something else before, but when the Hunger Games movies came out, they so symbolized this society that they gave it that name.
If you look at the Hunger Games society structure, you had people in the so-called capital, as they called it, in absolute high-tech luxury.
And the rest of society was not only in poverty and servitude, serving the interests of the few.
They were broken up into sectors.
And the different sectors weren't allowed to interact with the other sectors.
Compartmentalization of the population.
And so, how do you bring about that situation?
Well, to have the tiny few in a situation of dependency or have the masses in a situation of dependency on the tiny few, thus control, dependency plus control, then you have to destroy the livelihoods and the access to an independent income of the population.
And the structure of this Hunger Games society, see if you can recognize it, emerging, looks like this.
At the top you've got the less than 1% actually, who control the wealth, they control the resources and access to the resources, they control access to food, they control access to all the basics of human survival.
At the bottom of this Hunger Games pyramid is basically the rest of the population in servitude and dependent upon, for the basics of survival, on the tiny few at the top.
And in between is planned to be a fusion, eventually.
of the police and the military into a police-military state to A, impose the will of the few upon the many
and to stop the many rebelling against the few.
So let's look at recent history on that basis and what you've just described in Germany.
The lockdowns were designed to target small and medium-sized business,
It's even bigger business that's not owned by the coal.
The fantastic coal-owned corporations like Amazon, Facebook, and all the rest, they did very well, of course, during the period of lockdown.
But a lot of businesses went out of business, and a lot more since.
So you're creating a situation of dependency because you're destroying small business and you're destroying access to employment of small business.
You're creating the dependency.
What you do then is you follow an extraordinary hoax called human-caused climate change.
And you say that you're going to replace fossil fuels with so-called renewables like wind power and solar power.
You know you can't do that.
And don't forget to include electric cars that run on fossil fuels.
Yeah, exactly.
I was with someone the other day and he was talking about electric cars.
I said, well, What do you think produces the electricity you put in your car?
But this is the scale of perceptual manipulation, that people don't relate electricity.
They'll relate electricity in their house to fossil fuels, or you've got to lower your use of electricity to save the world from climate change, but they won't They weren't related to when they put the electricity in their car.
I mean, this is the scale of perceptual manipulation.
In the end, that's what it is.
Perceptual manipulation is the foundation of the whole thing.
So you artificially, through your climate change policies, Inflate the cost of energy.
You then, as Biden has done, you shut down pipelines and you target fossil fuels so that you, again, push up the cost of energy by affecting the supply.
You then stop... Excuse me, you not only shut down pipelines, you blow up pipelines.
Oh yeah, as I'm coming to.
Yes, exactly.
What you do is you then start a war in Ukraine, and when Europe is potentially getting natural gas from Russia via a pipeline, you don't want Europe getting natural gas.
You want the Hunger Games society, you want the price of energy to be enormous, as big as you can make it, Because when you increase the price of energy, you increase the price of everything, because everything at some point needs energy to be produced and transported.
At the same time, you use lockdown to dismantle the world food production chain.
This is why, for instance, because you control food, you control people, or you control access to food, you control people.
So we now have Bill Gates, here he is again, as the biggest owner of farmland in America.
And you have the World Economic Forum controlled Mark Rutter in the Netherlands, targeting 3,000 Dutch farmers to destroy their means of production in the second biggest exporter of food in the world.
So all this is connected and it's connected to creating dependency.
And what they want to do is create a situation where people have no ability to provide for themselves because you're dismantling that ability systematically.
And then they want to come forward.
It's already happening.
And they say the only way of sorting this out is to have a guaranteed income where we'll give you a certain amount of money.
It'll be a pittance every month for the basics of life.
But if you want to challenge the government and you want to have a different view of what's going on, well, you're not going to have your guaranteed income.
And by the way, where else are you going to get it?
Because we've dismantled your ability to earn a living.
Add to that that AI is taking more and more jobs normally done by people.
And you've got this situation where people are going to not be able to earn a living and become what?
100% totally dependent for anything upon authority, which will demand total compliance.
So if you're going to Not just target the poor, not just target the what we call in Britain the working classes.
You're going to target every element of society that is not connected to your cult, which is the vast majority, overwhelmingly vast majority.
Then you've also not only going to have to stop them earning a living, those that already have accumulated wealth You've got to get rid of that as well.
Yes.
And so this thing in Germany, what has happened all over the world?
And again, you know, once people get, know the outcome and you'll see the journey, these things all connect quite demonstrably.
The reason that if you wanted money before COVID, The Covid hoax, for things that deserved it.
It was all, no, no, well, you know, we'd like to do it, but there's not the money to do it.
Always money for wars, of course, but no, there's not the money to do that, not money for the homeless, not money for this, not money for that.
But once the Covid hoax was played, money was no object.
in the response to COVID.
Anywhere in the world.
They were just throwing money at it.
Unbelievable amounts of money.
Why?
Because another way of destroying the economy and people's independent access to a livelihood is to send inflation through the roof.
Anyone who's got money in the bank quote, that's getting less and less in terms of its value all the time because of inflation, and anyone on a fixed income like a pension or whatever, the same thing is happening to them.
You're crushing the population of these means.
So what they're now doing, and we have a prime minister in Britain called Rishi Sunak, Who was Chancellor of the Exchequer, in charge of the finances of the country, who handed out all these massive checks during the Covid era, in the way that other countries did, and is now the Prime Minister saying, oh no, we've got to have economic pain for the population.
Because of the impact of what I did!
No, you don't say that of course.
And this is happening everywhere and what you've described in Germany is a classic example of what's happening everywhere.
So you create the problem And then you offer the solution, which is to devastate the population economically to advance your agenda to the Hunger Games Society.
So all these things are connected, and what they want is, and they're all talking about it, of course, and when they all talk about it, you know, like a choir all around the world, these so-called world leaders, you know it's the agenda being described.
They want to get rid of cash.
I wrote a book in 1992 called the Robots Rebellion.
And in there I said the plan is to get rid of cash and only have an electronic currency that would be global.
And what they're seeking to do now is have this digital currency, which allows them to control everything.
You've not got your own cash.
You can't have a cash economy.
Because that's gone.
You can't use cash anymore.
And again, COVID is the scam that keeps on giving.
If you remember, immediately, virtually immediately, the COVID hoax was played.
Ted Ross at the World Health Organization, who is just a gopher for Gates, who's a gopher for the Rockefellers, Um, who's a goph... who are gophers for the cold.
He said you could catch COVID from... Touching cash.
Money, yeah.
Now that was, of course, again, nothing to do with health.
It was a scam to get rid of cash.
And, you know, I very soon after that, I was going on railway stations with little wooden kiosks for a coffee where you just hand them cash.
They didn't really want anything else, just cash.
And they were saying, no, we're only taking cards now.
For cups of coffee!
Because of the fear of getting COVID off the money.
Of course, it was a nonsense.
It was a lie.
They're all lies.
And now, they want rid of cash.
That's why all the ATMs are coming out.
That's why the bank branches are shutting down.
So everything moves online.
Everything moves digitally.
Because then, they've got complete control.
of your money and what the plan is, it's already happening places like China, is if you for
instance go jaywalking and you are picked up on one of these cameras that can
can identify you, this is what the AI plan is all about, then the fine is just taken out of your account.
That's where this is planned to go.
They can basically wipe your access to money.
If you're a dissident of the system and you're challenging the system,
the idea is that they can just shut your account down.
And if people say, no, that's far-fetched.
Hello, Justin Trudeau, truckers?
Yep, I know. So what happened?
And that was just a prerequisite or a precursor to what is planned everywhere.
So this situation in Germany fits absolutely this agenda that I've just outlined because it's targeting the ability of the population to survive and pay its bills.
Because the idea is that That's not supposed to happen.
You're not supposed to have the ability to live your life and pay your bills, but instead be completely dependent on the government for your very survival.
This is the plan.
And if we go on Just standing and watching it, then it will happen.
But it doesn't have to.
8 billion cannot be controlled by a handful unless the 8 billion acquiesce to the handful.
End of story.
That's right, David.
And you often finish your videos with, OK, let's get up and do something about this.
One of my favorite Substack blogs is a guy who finishes every post with, do not comply.
So, let's talk about solutions.
I want to know, what does it mean, practically speaking, in your mind, do not comply?
Well, if something is clearly being done to enslave you in any shape or form, then you don't do it.
They came out in this country in the spring of 2020 and they said you've got to social distance, only go out for an hour a day from your home.
You've got to wear, eventually as the summer unfolded, you've got to wear a face nappy, a face diaper, anywhere you go at one point.
And you can't travel.
So I didn't do any of them.
I didn't social distance.
If anyone wanted to run away from me in the street, well, that's their choice.
But I wasn't frightened of them, so I wasn't going to do that.
I went out whenever I chose.
I traveled.
I went to massive rallies in London.
And I have never worn a face nappy and I never will.
I'll die first.
So imagine if there's, what, 60-odd million people in the British Isles.
Imagine if even a quarter of them did the same and always refused to do any of these things because they were obviously nonsense and they were obviously a scam and made no sense.
then it wouldn't have been enforceable.
That's right.
It wouldn't even take a quarter.
I've heard it takes something like 13 to 20 percent.
Yeah.
Well, here's a great example.
When the British government first introduced lockdown, there was a handful of people, basically, who went out protesting.
And because there was a handful, in moved the police and arrested them.
Yeah.
By August of 2020, there were 35,000-40,000 people in Trafalgar Square.
I spoke there myself.
And so many people, they couldn't stop it happening.
Another 40-odd, 45,000 people turned up for the next one.
And by the spring of 2021, there were so many people on these marches through London.
I mean, hundreds of thousands.
The police that were just moving in and protesting and arresting the original protesters at the start, they were just standing on the side of the street watching us walk past because there were so many people saying, we're not complying.
There's nothing authority could do about it.
And that is such a metaphor for what I'm talking about.
And to stop that, they have to divide and rule the population and get great tracks of the population to attack and demonize and condemn those who are seeking To protect the freedom of the population and this is why this has been this focus on so-called anti-vaxxers and COVID deniers and all this stuff because if we come together in any kind of number
And you're right, it's nothing like the majority.
I mean, if we were waiting for the majority, well, we'd wait forever, frankly.
But it's nothing like the majority, but it does need a vast number of people in each country who are just saying, no, we're not doing it anymore.
We're not complying with our own enslavement.
If someone comes out of the White House or Downing Street and says, we've had a discussion and this is what's going to happen.
If enough people say we're not doing it, they have no power.
They don't have power.
The power they have is the power the population gives to them in the form of A, unquestioned acquiescence, and B, acquiescence that doesn't want to acquiesce but is too frightened not to acquiesce.
Those two mentalities are the only thing that have ever allowed the few to control the many and that that's still the equation and we if we want to and you still got people saying oh there's nothing we can do of course there is eight billion people can't be controlled by a relative handful it's impossible without the compliance of the eight billion the answer is staring us in the face but people have got to get informed so they realize they're being lied to grow a pair
So that they don't acquiesce through fear of not acquiescing and join the renegades, the true renegades, and that number's getting bigger all the time, that are saying we're not cooperating with our own enslavement.
And if people just did that, they would suddenly realize where the power not only is, but has been all along.
Give you a quick example.
Margaret Thatcher, the British Prime Minister, was said to be the Iron Lady and impregnable.
And then she came out with something called the Poltax towards the end of her premiership.
And it was towards the end of the premiership because of what happened.
This impregnable Iron Lady, I have the power.
And what the Poltax did, was affect not just the working class and the poor.
It affected the middle class, which is different to your middle class.
I'm middle class, that's a bit more money than your middle class.
You know what I mean?
It's just a different description.
But what it did is it united two groups that would normally not be united.
So it was like, oh, this is affecting the working class.
I'm middle class.
Oh, this is the middle class.
It doesn't affect me.
I'm working class.
It affected both.
As a result, very, very large numbers of people, for the first time in my memory, said, we're not paying it.
We refuse to pay it.
And I was actually involved in the first court case, actually down the road from here, where they tried to prosecute people who wouldn't pay, and it went pear-shaped.
It's a long story, but it went absolutely pear-shaped, the attempt to prosecute here at the first hearing.
I'm not familiar with that expression.
It went pear-shaped.
It went wrong.
It got messy.
It went wrong for the government.
What I'm saying is the refusal of these two groups, normally divided but now united over this, not only meant the poll tax was dropped, But it so wounded the image, that Iron Lady image of Margaret Thatcher, that she went out of office very quickly afterwards.
And that just shows you where the real power is.
The Iron Lady's power came from the acquiescence of the population.
And the fear of not acquiescing, once that united group said, we're not cooperating, it was over.
And you know, when people say to me, you know, there's nothing we can do, what can we do?
I just go, Oh my God, get yourself a calculator.
Put in 8 billion, take away the people in full knowledge of what they're doing, take away the gophers in government that impose and administer what the few want to do, take away the police, take away law enforcement, take away the military.
Now take that away from the 8 billion.
And the best part of 8 billion is still left.
So the answer is there.
It needs the choice to make the answer happen by just saying no, not doing it.
No is the most powerful word in any language if it's coming from a point of view of no, I'm not being imposed upon and my freedom is not being deleted by me acquiescing to what you're telling me to do.
The whole basis of the manipulation is to divide us, and is to get us to judge each other, to hate each other, to envy each other, to compete with each other.
It's to confuse people, especially the young, about their gender, who weren't confused before.
That's what it's about!
A lot of people don't carry cash anymore, and they're not grabbing credit cards either.
Instead, they're using their smartphones.
A currency that wouldn't be cash, it would be merely electronic, for which there are fundamental implications for human freedom.
The United States is preparing for a war against Russia through Ukraine, and what they plan is to try to take Crimea back.
The idea for this third world war is to involve Russia and China against the West.
Stage one you create a problem.
in China.
Oxygen, medical supplies and hospital beds have been banned.
What if the five vaccines that we should have?
Stage one you create a problem.
It could be a manufactured virus.
You want a reaction and you want them to either say, do something, or you want them to accept what the
authorities suggest must be done.
What if the five vaccines that we should have?
So one of the agendas is to massively cull the population.
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