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Dec. 8, 2022 - David Icke
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David Icke: The real reason we are in this mess is people believing whatever they are told - The Jay
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As always, we're going to finish with the hero and the villain segment.
But first, we're going to talk about the lack of investigation large numbers of people seem to do, even, sadly, in the alternative media.
So many things are taken at face value when really, they shouldn't be.
I mean, we've all heard the, she's controlled opposition, he's a shill, and in me and Gareth's case, apparently we're women.
Now, somebody who knows a fair amount about this is my dad, David, who joins me now.
Thank you.
Apart from you being women, they're all wrong, of course.
Apparently so.
There's a whole website dedicated to it.
So, in terms of, you know, you'd think people looking at alternative information will be more inquisitive, they'll be more sceptical, but we've seen, you know, a lot of people just take things at face value, which then is used to discredit the alternative media to an extent.
Yeah, I mean...
One of the things I've been saying a lot recently is that this global cult that I talk about concerns me less than the reaction of the population to what they're being told to think and told to do.
Because with the cult you're dealing with a fraction of the number in the target population of what now 8 billion?
That can only happen, the few controlling that many, if great chunks of the many do one of two things.
They believe what they're told without question, and then behave as they're told to behave.
Or they really don't want to do it but are frightened of not doing it.
And those two groups are responsible for why we're in the situation we're in.
And why a few can control the world.
Which is why when you go back through history you find the few control the many all the way through.
Because this process has gone on.
And it's sad to see that some elements of the alternative media go down the same road.
And basically this is what it is.
Someone says something But you don't say, OK, so where's your evidence?
You believe it.
And, you know, I've had this experience over and over again.
In the Netherlands, for instance, the government and the media and these other groups there that have an interest in silencing me say that I'm this, I'm saying this, I believe in that, all of which is nonsense.
And then vast tracts of people in the Netherlands believe it's true and start responding and reacting to me as if it's true.
And it's this process of, this is how it is, I'm not asking for evidence, I'll just believe you, that's got us into this absolute mess.
Because if we didn't do that, Then the world will be a very different place.
Do you think some of it is the whole, you know, we've said this before about, look at what somebody does, not who it is.
What somebody is saying, not who is saying it.
Do you think there's a little bit of that?
You know, people look at the BBC, it's the BBC, we must trust them, therefore what they're saying must be true.
And people that are alternative thinking do the same, look, Alex Jones said it, it must be true, I won't investigate it.
When in both cases you should always do your own research.
Including what I say, yeah, you know If people want to look at my books, they'll see the evidence to support what I'm saying But I'd like them to to look at the evidence and not just accept what I'm saying without question and one of the great things that can obviously is that the heart of what leads to Seeing what's happening is your own eyes and You know, so many people believe what they're told when actually their own eyes, if they looked around, would be telling them something different.
So yeah, it's a phenomenon that has to change, you know, and I hope as we move into the new year that people will start to question more and more and more.
I mean, there's a situation though.
that affects me personally, it doesn't really affect me that much, but
it's a personal story and that is there's a lady on the internet, this is actually a very very
good example of what we're talking about, there's a lady on the internet who accuses me of being a
satanist, right, and anyone that asks for evidence is immediately blocked so they're not allowed to
have a say.
I know you've said, come on the show, come on Iconic, and we'll, without any censorship, let you say and produce your evidence.
Of course, you get a mouthful back because there is no evidence.
And this is the same lady that is telling her followers that I'm not banned from 26 European countries, but it's just made up by the media.
Well, it's funny because in a few days I'm going to be appearing on Zoom, as it seems to be at the moment, in a court case in the Netherlands in which lawyers are challenging that very ban that has apparently just been made up by the newspapers.
So what I'm saying here is this example is it's not her So much as, of course, when you're well known, you're always going to get morons.
Of course.
And actually, in this case, nasty pieces of work who are going to say things about you without any evidence.
Of course, that's going to happen.
What I find Shocking, is the people that think they're streetwise, who actually believe it.
You get, you see comments like, yeah, I always thought he was, you know, I was on one of these peace marches in, and COVID, anti COVID lockdown marches in, in London.
And this kid came up to me, he said, with a knowing look, We know you're a satanist.
You know what?
And this is what I mean.
You know, when people say something about someone, demand the evidence.
Because if you don't, you're doing exactly what the population do in general, which you call them sheeple.
But you're doing the same, and this has got to stop.
Because if it doesn't, we'll get...
will get manipulated into supporting things and discrediting people that this system and this cult absolutely wants discrediting.
And that's just one final point on that.
This is the question.
It applies to the Netherlands and it applies to this lady.
Why do people, when they make these claims which are attempting to discredit someone, why do they not say, well, hold on a minute, What's your agenda?
Yeah, absolutely.
Why are you trying to discredit this guy who's, or in the Netherlands case, collectively through the media and the government, why are you trying to discredit this guy who spent coming into 33 years exposing this stuff?
What's your agenda?
Yeah, they don't do that.
But this doesn't happen.
In so many cases, they just believe it without question, and like I say, it's how we got into this mess, and it's certainly not going to be the way we get out of it.
No, I completely agree, and as we always say on this channel, and you've always said, always do your own research.
What justifies itself to you is what has to be the barometer of what you believe, not just because somebody says it.
Yeah.
Should we talk about hero and villain?
Absolutely.
Okay, right.
Take it away.
So, this week, let's start with your villain so that we can end on something a bit more positive.
So who's the villain and why?
Well, the villain actually could be the villain every week on this show, right?
And could have been all the way back...
to the start of the COVID era.
It's Jacinda Ardern, the Prime Minister, the World Economic Forum owned Prime Minister of New Zealand.
And why this has come to the fore this week Jay is So often you see a story and within that story it encompasses the whole macrocosm of what's happening.
And the story in New Zealand currently running is a four-month-old baby who needs a blood transfusion.
And the parents who are obviously intelligent to the point where they've thought, okay, we're all for the blood transfusion, but not of fake vaccinated, COVID vaccinated blood.
Fair enough.
Because if you look at these blowups of the blood that you see more and more now of fake vaccinated people, You see, first of all, it contains synthetic genetic material for reasons I've talked about at length, and it contains self-replicating nanotechnology, which is, you can see it forming these technological networks within the body at the nano level.
So obviously, they're saying, well, the child's not jabbed.
We're not jabbed, the parents.
We don't want the baby to be infused with something through a transfusion.
And the Ardern government is pushing back on this.
And then you've got the usual thing.
They're now trying to take the child away from the parents.
And they've got at least 20 people who are not jabbed, who've said, look, you can have my blood.
and the government is pushing back on it.
Yeah.
Why?
Because Jacinda Ardern is a psychopath.
She is the agent of super, super psychopaths.
And two things, one, they want to get this genetic material in the jabs
into everybody, and a great way of getting it into people unjabbed is through blood transfusions.
And two, they don't want the precedent set there for whereby the precedent is set that you can choose whether you have fake vaccinated blood or non-vaccinated blood.
And, you know, when you see, Jay, the scale of death among all the age groups, including very, very young people, and all the destruction of health that this jab has caused, and a government is doubling down And insisting that this child, four-month-old baby, Will, has fake vaccinated blood is absolutely, first of all, disgusting, secondly, psychopathic, and thirdly, shows these people have no concern for the health of the population, because they're psychopaths.
And, you know, I hope that this is a focus of attention that can get Far, far more New Zealanders to see that Jacinda Ardern is not running New Zealand for New Zealanders.
She's running it on behalf of this global cult, which is why what she does is the same as what Trudeau does and Macron does and Sunak does and Biden does.
Yeah, absolutely.
So mine's actually on a similar topic, so obviously I went into, I've said it really at the top of the show, I was in hospital yesterday with Travis, and the doctor, on the second or third question she asked me and Beth was, is he fully vaccinated?
I said no, and then she was like, well is that through choice?
I said yes, and then she went, can I ask why?
And I sort of went back and forth, like you can, but there's really no point, I'm not the person to speak to about this, that you're going to kind of sway.
And then she ignored me, I'm really focused on Beth, which I've noticed three or four times.
Gareth had it as well with his wife.
They always focus on the mum.
And pointed out how dangerous measles and rubella and things like that are.
And then said this line, this is what got me.
She said, but they're very rare these days because so many kids are vaccinated.
And they obviously protect the ones who aren't.
And then she gave me a look like that and went back to Beth.
So that's my villain.
Because as you say with your one, Jacinda Ardern knows what she's doing.
She's just an ignorant idiot who believes what she's been told in medical school.
Interestingly, Jay, doctors who are looking after this baby have refused to allow non-fake vaccinated blood because they say there's no problem with fake vaccinated blood.
And what we are looking at is a situation where We have doctors taking the Hippocratic oath, which says do no harm, and it's the hypocritical oath now, and yet these doctors, through their ignorance and their arrogance,
How doing untold harm, death and destruction to vast numbers of people across the world.
And they're not doctors.
They're not healers.
They're repeaters of the official line.
Yeah, they are.
And pharmaceutical reps.
Exactly, they are.
So, to finish on something more positive, on a similar story I believe, your hero is... The parents.
Okay.
The parents.
The parents who have combined the two things we need to bring this conspiracy of control down.
One, they have a mind of their own which has been able to not just take what, going on from where we started, not just take what authority tells them and then believe it.
They've checked it out.
They've found, actually, it doesn't make sense.
You're lying to me.
We're not having it.
And they're now doing what they are doing to stop their baby having it.
And the number two that goes with that, the number two that is necessary, is that they're standing up and saying, we're not having it.
And that's the combination that we need to bring this tyranny, this House of Cards tyranny down.
And so they're my inspiration this week.
Because if the world was more like them, we wouldn't be sitting here talking about this because it wouldn't be happening.
No, I completely agree.
Mine's actually a parent as well, a couple of parents.
So again, yesterday, sat in the waiting room, this mum in the corner turned to the mum next to her and said, out of interest, has your son had his flu vaccine in the last few days?
And they said no.
And she went, oh, I only asked because mine had his on Thursday and he's not been right since, that's why we're here.
To which then the other side of the waiting room, another mum went, that's why we're here as well, mine had his yesterday.
To which then she turned to me and said, has yours had his?
And I was like, I'm not the person to talk to about this.
Me and him have had none.
And then the room went silent for a few seconds.
But anyway, she's kind of my inspiration because despite the fact that she'll go and see a doctor who will say, oh, it's not connected at all, or oh, it's perfectly normal.
She's not an idiot and she's actually put two and two together.
Although, you know, I wouldn't agree with the fact she's vaccinated her son, she's ignored what the doctor said in saying it's got no connection.
And he's going, well, it obviously has.
He was fine Thursday.
He had this and he's been ill since.
I'm not an idiot.
And hopefully that will inspire her to maybe not do it again next year.
Yes.
I mean, make the connections.
And this is the irony at the end of it all.
The irony of ironies.
What the COVID era has showed us is that doctors are not healers.
They are very, very dangerous people.
Yes, they are.
100%.
Completely agree.
Right, thank you very much.
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