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Oct. 26, 2022 - David Icke
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Dutch Jewish activist who lost loved ones in Nazi Germany: David Icke is NOT anti-Semitic
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So, okay, welcome people to this conversation with no one less
than David Icke and And if you've never heard of David Icke, it's going to be even more interesting, I think.
If you have heard of David Icke, then maybe you're in the same position as me.
I'm not a huge fan or anything.
I don't know all his work.
But I have seen him speaking on demonstrations saying a lot of sensible stuff according to me.
We are going to subtitle this video later on for those people who have a hard time understanding English.
And the way this came about is I saw all this media going about David Icke speaking in Amsterdam on the 6th of November.
I must say until now Because we with the Army of Love as an organization are one of the supporters of Samen for Nederland.
We are one of the partners helping Samen for Nederland to put big demonstrations in Holland.
And until now, yeah, we never had David Icke on any Stage before.
So now Samen voor Nederland which means Together for Holland is organizing a demonstration in Holland and until now they never had such a big media attention.
I must say thank you media because it's all over the news so if you are a big favor of the freedom of speech And a big favor of peace because we're talking about a peace rally here.
We're not talking about anything else than peace.
So I was very surprised to see all this media attention suddenly out of nowhere and I thought well are they gonna stand up for peace?
No, it was the city of all the organizations in Holland which was now demanding that David Icke should not speak in Amsterdam on the 6th of November.
Now, if you don't know me, let me give you a short introduction because I felt the need to go and talk to David myself.
Which I never did before.
I must say, my dear love, Anna had an interview with David about one and a half years ago for a completely different item.
There was not that much attention.
I know that you and Luca had a conversation with David Icke, and he found, yeah, a lot of criticism.
That had some attention, but never, never, ever it exploded like this.
So, by the way, Sidi, if you're watching this, thank you so much.
Now, who am I?
My name is Mordeguy Crispijn.
This Mordeguy is the name of one of my ancestors.
He was the brother of my grandmother and he was killed in Nazi Germany, actually, in the gas chambers in 1944.
So I am a bit sensitive about anything that has to deal with the Second World War.
We call this the third generations of of war victims.
I do not see myself as a victim but I do understand if people do see themselves like that and I have total respect for everyone.
I'm 100% Jewish according to the Jewish law.
That means my mother was 100% Jewish.
She's not here anymore.
My grandmother was that.
So in that sense I am quite sensitive for anything that has to do with holocaust and anything that has to do with the second world war and anything that has to do with discriminations that has to do with the Jewish people.
So then what happened last week is that the city which is the center of information and documentation Israel they started to demand that David Icke should not speak in Amsterdam on the 6th of November.
And suddenly all programs in Holland, all the actuality programs, newspapers, are all doing one thing.
They are all joining CD and they're all talking about, well, he shouldn't, he shouldn't, he shouldn't.
Professors suddenly in the news talking about this man shouldn't come because he has a certain sound or whatever.
So I started digging into some of the past and I was not able to find anything that they are accusing him of.
Then it goes even further.
The city and now also the Justice Department are trying to ban David Icke from coming to the Netherlands using the E&A.
And the E&A is our immigration service.
And actually that's a copy of what happened to David a few weeks ago in Australia.
Now, the most interesting thing, and then I'm going to ask David to take the word here, and I'm going to ask him three questions, so just to have it in the beginning of the interview, and I'm going to ask David for the beginning, just to say yes or no to those questions, and then later on we can go into this conversation.
But there was a poll.
There was a poll sent out by NH News this week.
It was the only poll that I saw, and they asked the Dutch people, what do you think?
And 84% this morning said that they think that David Icke should just be able to speak under them.
And I don't know if they say it because they know David or they just say it because they're just in favor of the freedom of speech.
And then we have a quote Which I have seen more and more of the last week, and that's a quote of Evelyn Beatrice Hall.
It has been quoted also by Voltaire, and it means, I disapprove of what you say, or I might disapprove of what you say, but I will depend to the death your right to say it.
And that's a very beautiful quote.
And I think this is the main reason why we are here.
And again, people, we are talking about the 6th of November, a peace rally.
This is not something of we're trying to put the Holocaust or something on the agenda.
We're talking about the peace rally here because we do not want war.
I'm going to spotlight David and I'm going to ask David to open his mic.
Good morning, David.
Well, thank you for taking the time for us, David, to answer some of the questions.
And as I told you, before we do anything, I have three questions for you.
Okay.
The first question, and you just have to answer yes or no, is were you contacted by any of the mainstream media parties here in Holland?
Any newspaper, any television program?
Because everybody has been talking about you, but was anyone having the intention or calling you to go into a conversation with you or asking you questions, were you
contacted by the mainstream media?
No, not once. Okay, thank you. Second question, did according to you the holocaust took place?
Yeah, I mean if you're talking about vast numbers of Jewish people being killed by the Nazis
in a systematic way as they were, then yes, absolutely.
Thank you, thank you.
Well, you already got the third question.
Did, according to you, Jewish people were killed in the Second World War by Nazi Germany?
Absolutely.
And, you know, ironically, and this is the great ironic aspect to this, Moakai, is that I have been saying for 32 years and warning people that the Nazi and the Nazi mentality and the Nazi networks that were behind that horror in the Second World War, didn't disappear. They just changed their jackboots for
business suits and they went underground.
And this is why you will see that the world is becoming more and more Nazi because what the
Nazis did and that mentality did was expand their reach under cover.
And they've operated through what's called globalization, which has given them more and more power globally.
They operate through the European Union and they operate through These are cross-border organizations and global organizations.
And therefore, they have far more power now, even than they had in Nazi Germany.
And what is also kind of interesting, you know, Mordecai, is, you know, if you look at what's happened in the Covid era, what happened in lockdown and all that imposition, The governments across the world were acting like Nazis in terms of what they were forcing upon people.
How can it be anything but Nazi?
To say you are going to have this experimental vaccine.
How can that be anything but Nazi that you're forcing that on people?
And so my concern all along has been not only about what happened in Nazi Germany, but how what happened in Nazi Germany and that behind it has been expanding its power across the world ever since to the point now where it's going global.
Yeah, have you, of course you heard all the news, I just saw a short video of yours, at least a short part of it, because I just got the link where you actually are talking about the situation in Holland.
Have you, well you've seen a lot in your life by now, but have you seen anything like this, that Jewish organizations in the country are trying to stop you from speaking at a demonstration or even trying to ban you from even coming into a country.
Well, you saw it in Australia, but we're talking about Europe here.
We're talking about the country of the freedom of speech, the Netherlands.
Have you witnessed anything like this until now?
Yeah, well, I've witnessed it all over the world.
Not quite probably with the intensity of the last few days in the Netherlands, but I've experienced it all over the world.
And, you know, this this is how it works.
You've got a hierarchy that we call human society.
There's a tiny few at the top that are driving the agenda through the hierarchy.
And the further you come down the pyramid in human society, The less and less people know about what's actually coming down from the top, because it's all compartmentalized, like a secret society, different levels, degrees are compartmentalized from the ones above.
And so what comes down from this, this hidden level is that we have to control The perceptions of the population.
If we're going to control billions of people, which is what we saw in the COVID era, then we do not have the resources to do it physically.
If we can hijack the perceptions of the population, from perception comes behavior.
People behaved as they did in lockdown and went under, meekly under lockdown because their perception was there was a deadly virus and doing that was the only way to protect them and their families.
So perception equals behavior.
So where does perception come from?
It comes from information received.
We perceive as we do, believe as we do, because of the information we've had access to.
So This is why this network wants to control what's taught in the schools, it wants to control what is broadcast by the media, it wants through massive and ever more hysterical censorship to control what can be posted by the population through the Silicon Valley platforms.
Why?
Because if you want to hijack the perception of the population and get them to believe what you want them to believe so they behave as you want them to behave, you have to delete other sources of information that might get them to perceive a situation, themselves, the world, in a different way to what you want them to perceive.
So, this is why every tyranny in history, including this now global tyranny, has sought to control information.
What did the Nazis do, ironically, in Germany?
They immediately targeted sources of information, sources of challenge, sources of opinion
that were exposing what the Nazis were really about when they claimed to be something different
until the obvious dawned eventually when they got power.
And so from the top of this pyramid hierarchy comes the targeting of organizations and individuals
that are putting out information you don't want people to know and to hear.
So they will start the process.
Take me as an example.
They will start the process in the shadows of demonizing me.
They'll start putting out through various organizations and what have you, that I am all the things that they've been claiming I am and I'm not in the mainstream media in the Netherlands.
And you make an interesting point, Mordecai, with your first question.
Was I asked to give my side of events and what I what I believed by the mainstream media?
No.
Why?
Same reason that Alex Jones in America was destroyed or was attempted to be destroyed.
Say that and emphasize that by a billion dollar plus damages award while at the same time in the same case, he was not allowed to defend himself by the judge because what they want is to demonize you.
But not in demonizing you, give you a platform to put out information that they don't want you to hear.
And so they'll demonize you, but they won't ask you for your view, because then you're going to get the opportunity to put out information you don't want people to hear.
And so what happens in this hierarchy is that the demonization comes down from the shadows.
And by the time it gets to the lower levels of the hierarchy, At which level overwhelmingly people won't even know there's a hierarchy.
You get people who genuinely believe what they're saying.
But they can't tell you where it comes from or why they believe it, but they just believe it.
It's it's again, it's as the Nazis said, the big lie.
If you keep putting out a big lie and the bigger the lie, the better, because if the lie is massive, then people will say, oh, yeah, OK, they might lie, but they won't lie that much.
Oh, yes, they will.
So this is why the big lie is more potent than the small lie.
Because people accept you, oh, they're small lying, but not that they're big lying.
So you put out the big lie and you keep repeating it, just as the Nazis said, and then people will believe it.
But what you mustn't do is let your target have a platform to respond.
And that's why we've had what we've had.
So you've got this hierarchy, you've got the hierarchy Drivers who are putting out this stuff, and then you have what I call repeaters repeating it by reflex action, further down, believing it to be true.
And, you know, if you own the media, as this network does globally.
then you own the people that work for it.
And therefore, the people that work for it are going to act and behave in their daily roles in a way that's suitable and acceptable and desirable to that which owns their paycheck, basically.
And therefore, you don't see people, because one of the things that you have in journalism today is that you have to have a special operation before you become a journalist.
You have to have your spine removed.
And so they just are compliant propagandists who do what they're told to do.
And so you have this incredible imbalance.
Between the views of the people and the views of the authorities.
I mean, if you look around the world today and you see all the sexualization of children, the castration of children in the name of transgender, you know, small kids, you see freedom of speech being deleted.
That poll is very indicative of it.
You see all these things happening.
The population in general overwhelmingly does not want them to happen.
But they still happen.
Why?
Because a few people control the world, not the majority.
Thank you.
Well, at least, I hope that a lot of, I saw some people going like, okay, very happy because the chat is not visible for everyone, just to have people focus on the conversation.
But I can see some chats coming in.
People are happy that, yeah, with those answers.
But of course, there was so much more going on.
I have a question for you.
Like, for example, CDI, which is the Center of Documentation Information Israel.
What do you think happens with those people?
Because I have seen those people on the national networks, on television, being totally convinced that you should not speak, but they do not want to talk with you.
And probably they don't even take the effort to listen to this interview or to listen to anything you have to say.
Do you think that's like bad intent or is it just ignorance or what is it?
Well, Only they know that.
But there is a pattern, Mordecai.
If you look at the horrors of Nazi Germany, the very thought of it is an instinctive response emotionally to it, because the horror is so massive.
And so if you want to destroy someone's credibility or destroy someone in terms of demonizing them so they won't be listened to or anything or they'll be silenced, Then link them to denial of something that would immediately with everyone has this emotional reaction of revulsion.
So Holocaust denial as it's called, and that's another thing, you know, why do they call them climate change deniers?
Why do they call them vaccine deniers?
It's all the same mentality.
It's all the same perceptual manipulation.
This word denier now has connotations in the immediate emotional response of people because of Holocaust denial.
So it's not just Holocaust that gets an emotional reaction because of the linking of the words and it's all very perceptually deep the way they do it because they know they have to control perception to control the world.
Denial also has connotations.
So they don't say, oh, it's someone that doesn't agree with climate change.
No, you're a climate change denier.
Not that someone is saying, well, hold on a minute.
This is an experimental vaccine.
In fact, it's not even a vaccine by previous criteria and definitions of a vaccine.
So I'm going to just hold off a bit here and see what's going on.
No, you are a vaccine denier.
And it's all words because no words have connotations and they have emotional responses.
So if you look at what happened in Nazi Germany, what did they do?
They shut down the ability of people to expose them, challenge them and warn people about them.
And it's an irony, almost unimaginable, That a organization, and I could say there is a there is a pattern here I'll come to, that claims to stand up for Jewish people, that they would seek to act in the same ways in terms of censorship and silencing people that the Nazis did.
I mean, that's extraordinary.
And, you know, there's another interesting thing is that in Israel, The Covid impositions on the population were absolutely extraordinary.
I remember seeing an interview with a Jewish lawyer in Tel Aviv and he said, well, why would a government that So short a time after what happened in Nazi Germany, be acting in the same way against the people instead, in terms of imposing these restrictions and what I would call fascism upon the population.
It's like, what?
But there is a pattern because, you know, you mentioned I was banned from Australia.
That's an interesting story, Mordecai, because I've spoken in Australia ten times, and there was never a problem, not at all, speaking tours and stuff like that.
And in the September of 2018, I asked for a visa to go on a speaking tour in February of 2019, a six-city speaking tour of Australia, and it came through.
It took a time, mind, but it came through, because they couldn't find a reason not to do it.
And then I'm sitting in a hotel bar in Los Angeles in February 2019.
The flight from there to Melbourne to start the tour is four hours away.
We've got all the gear down, we're about to get on the bus.
And a long email came through from the immigration minister in Australia called David Coleman, saying it was extraordinary, Mordecai, because it said, I know you've been here 10 times.
I know there's never been a problem, but I know you've got a visa, which we gave you in September 2018, but you can't come now.
Right?
Which was, you know, financially massive with all the outgoings that had been put on in terms of organizing the tour, which would then Yeah, and by the way, you were in Los Angeles on your way to Australia?
Yeah, I'd spoken in Mexico and that's why I was in Los Angeles on the way to Australia.
So it was just before you would arrive there?
Yeah, four hours before the flight left to take me to start the tour in Melbourne.
So what's What happened and why it happened is interesting because it relates to the situation with Sydney now.
There's an organization in Australia, and it really is a man and a dog organization, because the Jewish population of Australia is absolutely tiny by ratio.
And it's called the Anti-Defamation Commission.
And suddenly it started kicking off.
About me coming into Australia, because I was going to say it's a big, it's a Jewish plot, and I'm anti-Semite and Holocaust denier, right?
You may have heard that recently as well.
And what happened is the Murdoch newspapers, not only them, but the Murdoch newspapers primarily, then picked this up and started exactly with the same as the The Dutch media this week started repeating it all over the place and demanding I should be abandoned.
In the end, this David Coleman's spine went and he panicked and banned me four hours before I was due to head there.
And then in America, you've got the Anti-Defamation League, the ADL.
And that goes back to the early years of the 20th century.
And they operate the same situation.
What they do is they say that David Icke is denying the Holocaust.
He's anti-Semitic.
He's dangerous.
And he's all this, that and the other.
And it's the same thing.
And then in Canada, I had talks banned in Canada because of an organization there of a similar background that was saying he's denying the Holocaust and he's an anti-Semite.
And so you see the pattern.
Because I've come back again to this whole manipulation of perception, if you can connect the revulsion of what happened in Nazi Germany to a man who is said to be denying all that went on, Then you have an incredibly powerful way of silencing people.
And because of this hierarchy, you have so-called liberals and people of the so-called left in politics.
It's not the left I grew up in.
And by the way, I didn't grow up in a far-right high-side household.
I grew up in a left-wing household.
When it was actually liberal and we believed in freedom of speech and we believed in challenging the power of the state and challenging the power of corporations.
But the so-called liberals, so-called left, what they do then Because they don't check it out either, because the whole world, Mordecai, the whole world is based on people repeating not what they've researched, not what they've sought to check, but repeating what they've heard as if it's real.
And so I've had protests outside my events in England.
And it's very difficult now to get an event anywhere, because the... immediately.
What we have to do, if I'm going to speak in an event, is we have to keep the venue quiet from the people who are coming until the day, and then email everyone and tell them where it is.
We have to do this in a so-called free country and countries around the world, because once it's known where the venue is, they move in and not only demonize me to the venue, but if the venue says, no, we believe in freedom of speech, then they go for the venue and the venue owners and people and say, we'll destroy your business if you don't ban him.
What they're doing is repeating What has come down from above as if it's true.
So, you know, the Labour Party in Britain, the so-called party of the people, has had people outside my events demanding that I be silenced because I'm anti-Semite and a Holocaust denier, when they have no idea if that's true or not.
They've just been told it is.
So they repeat it and they believe it.
And just very finally on this, this is why we're in this situation, people.
We're in this situation because people believe what they hear instead of checking it out.
Yeah, thank you.
Do you know that the CD, they now even announced a protest against the peace demonstration?
Yeah, and it's even one of the precedents.
They might get addled when they go down this road.
He actually said it live on television, this lady that you saw from Cities.
He said, then we're going to start a whistle demonstration against it.
I'm like, what?
Okay, but yeah, we're going to have very good speakers on the dam.
We're going to hire extremely good speakers, so we will not hear the whistling.
But there was one thing that you said that's very interesting that you were called upon on the last day on your way to Australia because I think that I see a parallel here in Holland also whenever we want to organize a demonstration and I helped organizing demonstration quite a lot over the last two and a half years Whenever they give you and whenever they withdraw the permit or they tell you you cannot go on demonstration, actually in Holland it's quite difficult to forbid a demonstration.
There are fairly strict rules because we have the freedom of speech.
The other thing is that they should not go into the content of any demonstration.
They're not allowed to look at the content because anyone is supposed to say whatever they want.
But whenever they find a reason To take away your, it's not even permission, but the right to go and demonstrate, it's always in the very last minute.
So the organization cannot do anything anymore because we were organizing a demonstration in 2020 on the 21st of June.
It was going to be massive.
And in the last moment, The mayor of The Hague said you're not allowed to protest.
So what do you do as an organization?
You go to the court and you will ask them to take a decision upon this.
But all you're doing as an organization is you're in total panic and you do not have the time to organize any alternative.
So when you told me that in September you already had the visa, But being on the airport in Los Angeles on your way, they tell you you're not allowed to come.
You think that's a strategy of this last minute?
100%.
It's because if they go early, as you rightly put it, you can have time to find alternative arrangements.
But if they do it late, you can't.
I'll give you a great example of that.
We have put on a book launch a few years ago now, maybe five years, maybe a bit more.
At Manchester United at Old Trafford, the football ground.
And my son, Jamie, was talking with them for months.
And he said to them, oh, you know, you get all these people, they say that David's going to say this, they say David's going to say that when he's not.
And they said, oh, no, no, we're Manchester United.
We don't get intimidated.
And then we're in Manchester.
We're at the hotel.
We're in 24 hours from the event.
And at 24 hours, and it started as they were starting to put out various groups in Britain, so-called left-wing groups, like hell they are.
And they were putting out that I was Holocaust denier and I mustn't be allowed to speak at Old Trafford.
And then the Labour Party MP for the Manchester United area called Kate Green.
She then intervenes on the morning of the event and tells Manchester United it's disgusting that they're going to let me speak because I'm a Holocaust denier and an anti-Semite.
And we heard on the morning after months of preparation.
And by the way, people were flying in from abroad for this launch because it was going to be a dinner and quite a little event.
And others had a going there as a birthday present.
And on the morning, Manchester United told the media that I was not going to be allowed to speak and the event was off.
And this is after my son had been at Man United the day before doing the final arrangements.
And we heard about it in the media.
So my son Jamie, he got in the car and he went out to Old Trafford on the morning of the event.
To ask them what the hell was going on because they hadn't told us.
And what they did is refuse to talk to him and escorted him with a security guard off the premises.
So this is not an accident.
This is this is by design.
If we go too early, they could make other arrangements.
So what we'll do is we'll go late.
So they've got no chance of Making this event happen.
It's a strategy.
And you know, it is an amazing expression of cognitive dissonance, where you believe two things that are totally contradictory at the same time and believe both to be true.
That people can call themselves anti-Nazi and freedom fighters while seeking to act like the Nazis did, and do in the shadows now, and also to deny freedom of speech that you demand for yourself.
This is the thing about freedom of speech.
It's really important.
Whether people believe what I say or not is irrelevant.
What I believe about what other people say is irrelevant.
The fundamental foundation of freedom of speech is the right to be wrong.
Because if you don't have the right to be wrong, it means that some authority now has the power to decide what is right or wrong, and thus to silence what it perceives to be wrong, which just happens to be what it doesn't want people to hear.
And you will have seen, Mordecai, this extraordinary law that's being passed in California.
By this guy Gavin Newsom, the governor, who's a graduate of the Young Leaders School of the World Economic Forum of Klaus Schwab, just like Trudeau is, and Ardern is in New Zealand, and Macron is in France, and on and on it goes.
The law is saying that doctors can be struck off for challenging the official story of COVID and the COVID vaccine.
So when you've got doctors being told you cannot be a doctor, you have to just follow the official narrative.
Then you are dealing with a fascist state.
We just had a doctor in Holland, Rob Elens, he just received his first fine.
His first fine, he has to pay a few thousands of euros, I believe, because he was treating people with hydroxychloroquine, curing them, because he just lost 10 patients in the beginning of Corona.
He started using the Celenco protocol, using ACQ together with some antibiotics and zinc.
He started curing people.
They told him he was not able and not allowed to use that medicine, which has been on the market for many, many years.
He stopped using it and people started dying in his practice again.
He just received a few weeks ago, after a long lawsuit, a fine, his first fine, as a medical doctor, actually telling him he was not allowed to cure his patients with ACQ.
And he was also not allowed to ask his patients to sign an agreement for taking the vaccine and also taking the risk of whatever may come out of that vaccine.
He actually did the official informed consent.
They were not allowing him to do that.
So he also reads the newspaper.
So that's the whole medical thing.
I want to jump together with you to... Can I just say one thing on that, Mordecai?
Yeah, sure.
You know, what I've been highlighting All these years is the mentality that is behind all this and why Nazi Germany is so relevant to what I'm saying is that the mentality we saw there on public display is the mentality behind this what I call global cult that is directing and driving this transformation of human society in a way that's happening now so fast.
How can you do what the Nazis did if you have a smear of empathy or a smear of compassion, if you have the ability to feel compassion and feel empathy, putting yourself in the feelings of those you affect, and then do what the Nazis did?
You can't.
So this mentality does not have the capacity to feel, generate empathy and compassion.
And empathy is the fail safe mechanism of human behavior.
If you have empathy, then that's going to stop you doing things to the extreme because you have empathy with people who are affected by what you do.
Take away empathy and Anything goes.
There are no limits anymore.
And this is why the Nazis did what they did.
I mean, just I mean, you know, you get that that feeling in your stomach when when you even just think about what happened there.
Now, how can you?
enforce a fake vaccine you know it increasingly shown very clearly they knew was going to uh kill and health damage uh to the extreme enormous numbers of people how can you say you must have this fake vaccine to uh to treat quote covid and what someone else is doing effectively cannot happen You can only do that if you have no capacity for empathy.
If you did, you would say, well, this doctor, he seems to be having success here with this.
So not only are we going to let him get on with it, we're going to have a look at this because we are, from an empathetic point of view, We want to help people, but that's not the game.
It's not about helping people.
It's about imposing an agenda, ultimately, of global fascism, a global version of Nazi Germany will be a very simple way of putting it.
Therefore, what happens to people, they're just collateral damage and fodder to this mindset, doesn't matter.
What matters is, does our agenda advance?
And I have this phrase, know the outcome and you'll see the journey.
If you don't know where we're being taken, then Events seem random and something like stopping that doctor prescribing an effective response would seem bewildering.
Why would they do that when you know the outcome?
Then you see the journey and these things and happenings every day are no longer random to your mind, they become stepping stones to the outcome.
And so, in the same way that we must, in their mind, silence those who are putting out information we don't like.
At the same time, in terms of the COVID situation, we must demonize and target Doctors who are acting towards this in ways we don't want because we want everyone fake vaccinated and for them to see that's the only response possible.
So you see this same perceptual manipulation all over the place, which is why you've got this law in California saying that doctors cannot challenge the official story because otherwise they'll get struck off.
Let's jump to the demonstration because actually the demonstration is about peace.
No war.
That's actually why you are invited for the 6th of November in Amsterdam.
What would be your message?
I mean, of course, I know you're great at giving speeches, but just short, What do you think about this whole situation?
What would be your message when we are talking about this war that is going on and that everybody is pointing fingers at for everything that is going on right now with food shortages and everything?
What would be your message?
Well, what I do when I speak like that is I step up and start speaking, and I just let the flow take me where I go.
But if I'm sitting here now, there are certain things I would want to cover.
And one relates to what I've just said.
If you see everything as random, You're never going to grasp what's going on because these events are not random.
They are connected.
If you connect the dots, you see the picture.
If you don't, you see the dots that appear to be random happenings.
So know the outcome and you'll see the journey.
OK, what's the outcome?
The outcome that's planned is a global fascist world dictatorship.
In which a tiny, tiny few people at the center control, for instance, all the basics for life and survival.
And if you don't do what that group says, then you do not get the basics of life and survival.
And this is a mirror, because China is a laboratory, Which was created as a result of the Mao revolution because to this global cult there are no borders, we see China and America and the Netherlands, they don't, they just see different sections of a global agenda.
So in China, they created a closed society, which allowed a system of total global control to be, not least through AI and technology, to be incubated.
And as it was incubated and perfected, it has now been played out across the world.
If you look at the world and the Western society since the Covid era, which the story says came out of China, ironically and appropriately, then the West has become more and more like China.
And one expression of it is what's been happening in the Netherlands this week in relation to me and the The event.
So let's look at the Chinese system.
They have what's called a social credit system.
And what that means is because they have millions of cameras in the cities and a surveillance in real time system that is absolutely state of the art in terms of humanity at the moment, they can track people's behavior.
And through AI, they track it, and they register it, and they record it.
And if you behave as the government wants you to do, you get credits.
If you don't, you get the credits taken away, and you are denied basic interaction with mainstream society.
You can't go on a train, you can't fly, you can't do this, you can't do that.
And so you do what the government says or there's real trouble for you living your life.
Now, these fake vaccine passports, I say fake vaccine, not fake vaccine passports, the passports are real, are designed to be the West and a lot more on top of that, the West version of the social credit system in China.
And we saw that if you weren't fake vaccinated, then you had a range of things you couldn't do.
And you were denied access to mainstream society.
That's just the start of where they want to go.
And the European Union is is colossally involved in this and and preparing to play out this social credit system in Europe and same in other countries across the world, like the United States and Britain and elsewhere.
That's the society they want.
And if you're going to control people so they become dependent on you, you have to destroy their ability to have a livelihood.
So they become dependent on you for survival.
And so that's first of all in this sequence, Mordecai, that's what lockdown was about.
It wasn't about protecting people from a, quote, deadly virus, because that study after study has shown that not only is that not appropriate in a response, it created enormous amounts of death and health destruction by shutting down hospitals and people not having treatment or diagnosis and all the rest of it, all the psychological stuff on top of that, because it wasn't about that.
It was about holding the global economy below the waterline.
So businesses went bust and more and more what I call the cult corporations, your Amazon, your Facebooks and all these big corporations, they got richer and richer and richer during lockdown while the small independent livelihood businesses and employers were being destroyed.
So, OK, They could only do that for so long because they knew they were going to get pushback.
They had a lot of pushback in England.
That's why we had a lot of success in pushing this back in terms of the restrictions.
But so what's the next stage?
OK.
We've got to create a system of dependency, not just by destroying, in that sense I've described, but by making the basics of life so expensive that people can't afford them.
And again, next stage from lockdown, Businesses, small businesses, medium businesses, even some big businesses that are not co-owned, are not going to be able to afford to continue because of the cost of continuing.
Now, let's have a think.
What can we do that will affect everything and push the price of everything up to the point of people not being able to afford it?
I know energy.
If we can push the price of energy up, because everything that's produced is produced with energy and it's transported with energy, every level of that price chain is going to increase to the point where people aren't yet afford it.
So how do we do that?
Oh, got another idea.
What we do is we say we're all gonna die because of human-caused climate change.
And we're gonna demonize the gas of life, CO2, without which there'd be no natural world.
And we're gonna say that the whole of society has to be transformed to save the world from climate change.
And if you look at the scientific basis of that, it is nonsensical, but people don't, of course, they just repeat it.
So what we're going to do now is we're going to start shutting down fossil fuels.
We're going to shut down pipelines like Biden did when he came to office.
So an energy-independent America became an energy-dependent America in a very, very short time.
We're going to say that all this use of fossil fuels, which is the basis of modern society, is going to stop.
And so what's that going to do?
It's going to push the price of energy up because a you're contracting it by shutting down fossil fuels and a be your
alternatives cost more so you're pushing the price of energy up.
Now hold on a minute. What else are we going to do we need energy yeah but I tell another thing that's really gonna
really make people dependent on us.
The price of food. So what we're going to do is during lockdown when we shut everything down worldwide. We're
going to dismantle great chunks of the world food production and supply industry.
And that's going to push the price of food up. And then what we're going to do we're going to stimulate this war
with Ukraine, because what we're going to do and I said this in in films and books going way back.
We're going to poke put it in the chest by moving NATO further and further east.
And then we're going to cross the red line of Putin, where he says look, Ukraine, must not join NATO.
So what are we going to do?
Well, he's saying if this goes on, there's going to be trouble.
We're going to send a moronic lady from America called Kamala Harris, the vice president.
It's not so bad as you say it quickly.
Who's going to go to Ukraine, just before the conflict broke out, and he's going to say, yes, we support Ukraine joining NATO.
So, you want Putin, you want Putin to invade because you want the conflict.
So what is the effect of that?
Because of the pipelines.
And also, if Putin has leverage over Europe with the pipelines, the Nord Stream 1 and 2, well, you've got to blow them up.
So his leverage is gone.
And what we're going to do is, we're going to create an energy crisis through, supply crisis through this war, so that again, energy prices go up and up and up, more businesses get destroyed, people die in large numbers this winter because they're so bloody cold.
And also, between them, Ukraine and Russia are tremendous producers of foodstuffs.
And also, like Russia, is a fantastic global producer of fertilizer for farms.
So if we do that, and we, as has happened, You stop this massive amount of food from circulating, you're gonna make access to food get harder and harder and harder the longer it goes on, but you're also going to, if even if they can get the fertilizer,
You're going to make sure it's vastly more expensive, which pushes food production up, which puts foodstuffs in the shops higher and higher and higher.
And all the time you are squeezing people so that they cannot survive independently and have to survive through you.
Because the idea in the end is to introduce what they call a guaranteed income, which will be
a pittance.
And you only get the guaranteed income because where else that all other income is gone,
we've destroyed it.
You're only going to get the guaranteed income if you do as you're told a la social credit
system in China.
And that brings us, Mordecai, back to the Netherlands.
Why would Mark Rutter, who's just an agent of the World Economic Forum, I mean, look
at his speeches, why would he target the second biggest exporter of food in the world, the
Netherlands, and target their farmers in the most grotesque fascist way of saying, we're
going to take over your farms, we're going to take over your land?
Because it all fits this destruction of the food chain.
This is why Bill Gates is the biggest owner of farmland in America now.
Same agenda.
Why would you target Dutch farmers in the way that's being done when there's an increasingly big problem with the supply of food?
You'd be increasing it.
You'd be encouraging them to produce more.
No.
Wants to destroy them.
How does that benefit The Netherlands and the people of the Netherlands.
It doesn't because Rutte is not there for that.
He's not there to serve the people of the Netherlands.
He's there to serve the cult that owns him.
That's why he's making decisions on the farmers that are absolutely in line with the World Economic Forum food policy globally and destroying the production of food.
That's why he's doing it.
And so what I wanted to do in In Amsterdam was just to put a few of these dots together to put into context why apparently random things are happening.
They're not random.
And to say this also, 8 billion people cannot be controlled by a relative handful because the core of the core, that's all it is.
Unless the 8 billion acquiesce to their own enslavement.
Unless the 8 billion give their power to the few.
And that is the whole story of human history.
The many giving their power to the few.
It could be a monarch, it could be a government, it could be a dictator.
That's what they do.
Fascism is never brought in by fascists.
There's never enough of the fascists.
Fascism comes in by the acquiescence of the population to fascism.
That's how it happens, or communism or any other form of tyranny.
It is impossible.
Do the maths, people.
It is impossible for 8 billion people to be controlled by a relative handful.
It's impossible unless Through acquiescence, and unquestioning acquiescence, the billions give their power to the few.
Okay, Rotter comes out of the Parliament building, or wherever he bloody lives, and he says, right, we've decided to do this.
What if great tracts of the Dutch population say, not doing it!
We're not having it!
It's impossible to impose.
Look at what would have happened during lockdown if far, far, far more people in the Netherlands had got on the streets and said, we are not having this.
It would not have been enforceable.
Even with the brutal buffoons in the uniforms that were being so brutal against protesters, they would not have been able to enforce it.
Enforcement of fascism comes from the acquiescence of the many to the few and it's got to stop otherwise these people will reach their goal.
Wow, thank you, thank you.
We're going to round it up but I do have to go to one more subject because what I did, I went to all the questions that people wanted to ask you and well I cannot skip it because people will probably miss it if I don't bring it to the table.
Reptilians, Before we start, and I think we will have about 10 more minutes, Reptilians.
What happened, I don't know if you got it, but we have a Dutch politician, he is from Forum for Democracy, Thierry Baudin, he actually said In an interview with an American broadcasting, I think an internet platform, he said, well, I believe in reptilians and the whole media started attacking him and together linking it to what you always say about reptilians.
What you are accused of is that you're saying that, and they bring it back to the Holocaust, that you think that Jewish, the Jewish people are reptilians or whatever, and they are trying to take over the world, and that they were the one and signing, designing the Holocaust, etc.
Please, reptilians, what do you think about it?
I mean, you're obviously a reptilian, aren't you?
I mean, yeah, I mean, this is one of the hardest things.
It's like when you do things because you feel them and you feel compelled to do them, but you're doing things and you're sacrificing in ways that other people wouldn't.
Those other people often say, no, there's got to be a catch here, mate.
No, no one does that.
He's got to be making lots of money or he's got to be doing it for this reason or that reason.
And what they're doing is judging other people by their own perception and their own on what they would do.
And obviously there's lots of people all over the world that are doing things very challenging because they believe it's right.
Not for any ulterior motive, they believe it's right.
And in the same way, I'm... so people say this.
Well, he's saying reptiles run the world.
Now, that's so daft.
That's so crazy.
That's so ridiculous.
It's got to be a metaphor for someone else like Jewish people.
No, no.
I mean, literally, if people read my books, just just would read my books, they'll see.
I mean, literal.
And what happened?
Mordecai, is that I reached a point where it was obvious that what was happening in the world today goes way back.
You can go back through Rome.
You can go back to Babylon and probably go back further into Sumer and all that and other parts of the world, too.
And what's happened is this global cult has gathered more and more power as what we call time has passed.
to the point where it can go global and that's what's happening now through globalization and all these other things that are going on.
And so I looked at it and I thought there has to be a common theme that spans from the ancient world right the way through to now because people have been born, they've played a part in advancing the agenda of this cult which is gathering power more and more globally, And then they die.
And then others come in and they take over in this secret society network.
And you think, well, you know, there's got to be a coordinating force behind all this.
And so I started looking around the ancient world because I thought, well, you know, this can't have just started.
It must go way back.
So if it does, it must be mentioned somewhere.
And what I found, people just one thing, I've been doing this full time for 32 years.
So I've got a lot through a lot of research into a lot of areas.
And I started scanning the ancient world.
And I found this common theme.
Whether it's the Zulus in South Africa, whether it's the Gnostic belief system in what was then Egypt, the Gnostic people, whether it's Native Americans, Aboriginals in Australia, whatever.
And even Islam, too, with the jinn.
And there's this common theme of a force in the hidden.
Manipulating human society.
Common!
Call them different names.
Of course they do.
Like the Gnostics called the Force Archons, which is Greek for rulers.
But the theme was the same.
The other thing is, you have to research over so many different subjects to get the picture.
So then you ask the question, what do you mean in the hidden?
Where are they then?
And then you realize, as you research physics, etc., that actually what we call the human world is just a tiny band of frequency.
That's all it is.
When you look through your eyes, you're not seeing everything that exists in the space you're looking at.
Just as when you are on a television station or a radio station under the old analog system, Are you aware of all the other radio stations and television stations in the same space as the one you're picking up because your device is tuned to that frequency?
So they're all sharing the same space without interfering with each other unless they're really close on the dial then there could be cross frequency interference.
So I then realized that according to mainstream science The electromagnetic spectrum, which we can only see a fraction of, is 0.005% of what exists in this, quote, universe as energy in all its forms.
And visible light, which is the only band of frequency that we can see, is a fraction of the 0.005%.
So humans are basically blind.
The entirety of infinite existence exists beyond our ability to see it.
So suddenly, the stories and the ones I was picking up through the intelligence military complex whistleblowers in places like America, who were telling me the same thing about what was going on now that the ancients were describing, that there is a non-human force.
Reptilian is a major part of it, but it's not the only part.
That is manipulating human society and that this cult that I talk about is actually within visible light the representative manipulative force of that non-human force.
And you start to realize well, that's why we can't see it.
That's why we can't see them.
And that's why they talk about in Islam the jinn which is a which manipulate from the hidden and this this this whole Concepts of frequency explain so many mysteries immediately.
Because there's so many mysteries in terms of reality and science, not because they have to be, but because if you, in terms of science, are allowed to go there, then you're going to start uncovering things you do not want the population to know.
So you make sure that your science basically says, quantum physics apart, this world is all there is, everything's solid, and apart from everything else, and this is all there is, and there's nothing else, which is absolutely Unbelievable nonsense.
So as I said, if you have two, two frequencies, two radio station frequencies on the analog system that are very close together, you get interference.
One is the main one, but there's another one that you can very clearly hear because they're so close on the dial.
And there's another, we call it dimension, whatever you like, that bleeds into ours.
Some people call it in, you know, the spiritual realm, the astral dimension.
In that astral dimension, where it meets our world, this is where these non-human entities operate from, and manipulate our world through their network within our world, through people like Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, and all these other people.
Will they know that?
Absolutely they will, at that level.
And so, another thing that I found, Mordecai, as I researched this, and I tell you what, this absolutely applies to the Netherlands.
What there is to come out about the Netherlands and Belgium in terms of this is absolutely fantastic.
I started to realize as I was researching these players in this cult, in terms of politics and stuff, is that invariably, It led to pedophilia, and I explain in the books why that is, and Satanism.
So I started to meet, because my life is incredibly synchronistic, I started to meet people in America, in Europe, in Australia, who were describing to me how they had taken part in satanic rituals, some willingly without really knowing, and others against their will, most of them against their will.
And they described how These are these major, major rituals.
These Satanists are interacting with what the ancients called the gods.
And they're interacting with these non-human entities that are, we're not able to see them, but they're close to us on the dial.
Interaction can take place.
And during the rituals, it's why they, you know, you look at Satanists today.
I mean, I'm talking about the major Satanists that are behind the governments and behind the royal families of the world and all of us do it.
They are doing the same rituals today as the Egyptians did, and the Babylonians did, and so on.
But why wouldn't they?
Would you modernize them?
Well, you can to an extent, but this is the point.
Those ancient rituals, when they were openly sacrificing people, now they do it in secrecy, were designed to create a frequency projection, a frequency field.
That thinned out this division between where the gods are, the demons as I call them, and this world.
And if you keep doing that in the same place over and over and over again, it so thins out the energy difference at that point, that these entities can actually slip through into our reality.
And I've been described to me so many times over the years by people who've experienced it, how these entities just appear.
They can't stay here for long because there's a frequency problem, but they can manifest.
And they manifest in the rituals.
And these are the, quote, gods that these people are worshipping.
And so One of the things that these, quote, gods do is they feed off human low vibrational energy.
They feed off fear, resentment, hatred, conflict, anxiety, etc.
So what they're trying to do all the time, you remember in the Matrix movie, the Morpheus character held up a battery and said the machines are trying to turn humans into one of these.
That's exactly what they're doing symbolically and In another way, literally.
So they've structured society to create maximum fear, maximum anxiety, maximum hatred, conflict, etc.
And they're feeding off it because every time this is mainstream science now.
Every time we think and feel, whatever the nature of that thought and feeling is, it generates a frequency unique to that thought and feeling.
So if they can get you into low vibrational states of emotion and thought, then they are basically generating their own energetic sustenance.
Because just with the analog radio system, let's say, If you're on a particular frequency, and they're on a very low frequency, that's why they do what they do, then a high frequency goes straight through you, like two radio stations.
You can't absorb that.
Never the twain shall meet.
To absorb this energy, which is your sustenance, it has to be within the frequency band that you are operating on, that you are vibrating on.
And therefore, they've turned humans into an energy source.
And that's why they don't want people to open their hearts.
They don't want people to come together and stop fighting each other.
Because when you fight each other, both sides, whether you think you're morally the right one or not, When you fight each other, you are generating the energy that they absorb.
They don't care what you're fighting for, as long as you're fighting.
As long as you're in that emotional and mental state called fighting.
That's why what you fight, you become.
You become what you fight.
History shows that.
So we're full circle.
We're getting full circle here, David, because it's a quarter past.
I started to say, but it was before the recording started, and I said it to some people that entered the Zoom, what I found out, I was fighting also, especially from the beginning, standing on demonstrations, fighting, trying to bring ministers to court, et cetera.
But I found out it did have a function of putting light on the situation.
And I don't believe so much in fighting anymore, because the more you fight, the more you give the opponent the opportunity, especially because they have the monopoly on power and force, the more power you give them to become even stronger.
We even see it, we saw it in the Netherlands, the moment that we break through a specific law and a judge decides to go, okay, this evening clock cannot stand according to the law, they just change the law.
So it almost seems that the more you fight it, the stronger you make them, because they will just change it.
But shining your light upon the situation is a completely different thing.
Then you're not fighting, then you're actually just shining light.
And I like what you just said, and then I really want to round it up, is what you fight to become, can you Finish up with a beautiful message for the audience watching this?
Yeah, well, I mean, what you've just said is spot on.
They have power.
But what power?
They have institutional power because they created the institutions.
They have the power of the game because they wrote and write the rules of the
game.
And what they want you to do is play their game by their rules.
That's how they pull you in.
So even if you challenge them, you're playing in their stadium where they make the rules.
So this is why instead of fighting people, instead of fighting people through the courts, which they own, they want to drain you of money and then have a compliant judge to make a ludicrous decision on their behalf.
We use the most powerful word in the English language when it's used correctly.
No, no.
Never mind.
I'm not going to take you to court.
I'm just not doing it.
And if enough of people say no to their own enslavement and crucially say no to other people's enslavement, one of the great ways that we're controlled is when someone's being targeted or some group's being targeted, the other part of society who is targeted in other ways says, oh, it's not my problem.
Nothing to do with me.
So I'm going to just ignore it.
Well, no.
Because their enslavement is your enslavement.
We have to be responsible for the enslavement of other people, because in our acquiescence to what's happening, we are responsible.
So the word no is the most powerful word in the English language.
No, not doing it.
How can Mark Rutter, how can this senile man, absolutely obvious on public display, Biden, how can Macron, how can Ardern, how can this boy in short trousers in Canada, Trudeau, impose their will on entire populations?
It's impossible, unless the population give their power to the little boy in short trousers and the senile man in the White House.
That's the problem.
And if you look throughout history, the same process, the same sequence, the more give their power to the few, the few control, the more.
We've got to break that cycle and we can break it now.
And when we do, we can build a world that is truly about freedom.
It's truly about freedom to express yourself as you see fit.
And truly is about an understanding that the body and the nature of the body, the color of the body, the culture of the body, the sexuality of the body is just an experience.
It's just an experience, a brief experience we call human.
What we are, what we all are, and in the end what we are all the same expressions of, is one infinite consciousness.
Some people call it God, it doesn't matter what you call it.
This one infinite consciousness we're all in expressions of.
And what this manipulation has done has got us to self-identify the I, who we are, with the labels of a human life.
They are not who we are.
They are what we are briefly experiencing.
But if you can get people to self-identify with the labels of the human life, IMRs I call them, then you have the perfect situation for creating the fault lines that divide and rule the population on the basis of labels When actually all those different labels are, in the end, the same consciousness, having different experiences.
And that's why they don't want us to come together.
They want to divide us.
They want to social distance us.
They want us fighting each other.
They want us labeling each other and judging people.
Each other by the color of our skin or the nature of our culture, nature of our religion.
I have a simple, simple philosophy.
Do what you like, believe what you like, so long as you don't impose it on other people.
I'm only interested when it's imposed.
What people believe and how people live their life, if they don't pose it to other people, is none of my business and none of anyone else's business.
And we need just to get on and be at peace, oh my God, call the police, with other people having different views to us.
Let's just discuss them.
Let's have a chat.
But when you start to think, That my belief must be the one that dominates and that anyone that believes different from me must by definition be wrong and even worse be silenced.
Then you are creating the very tyranny that we're now experiencing.
Thank you so much, David.
I hope we see you on the 6th of November and no matter how, digital or live, the 6th of November we're going to be in Amsterdam.
So for everyone, thank you so much David.
Thank you for your time.
Nice to meet you.
Okay, thank you.
See you, bye.
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It's to confuse people, especially the young, about their gender, who weren't confused before.
That's what it's about!
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