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This week on Right Now, musicians Right Said Fred are in the studio to talk about cancel
culture, being accused of being government agents and staying sane in the madness.
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So, let's go.
slow music playing Hello and welcome to Right Now. It's a It's been a completely surreal week since Queen Elizabeth passed away at her estate in Balmoral.
It seems that a large portion of the nation has fallen into a state of madness where all rationale has been mashed up and thrown to the corgis.
Some people have queued for 36 hours in the rain for an opportunity to walk past a coffin of someone they never met or even had a conversation with.
Norwich Council in Norfolk have closed a bike rack for ten days for a period of royal mourning.
That's a bike rack.
Thousands of NHS appointments will be cancelled for the Queen's funeral, including maternity checks and scheduled cancer treatments.
That's what Her Majesty would have wanted.
The mainstream media and even portions of the so-called alternative have been eulogising the Queen as if living in untold luxury at the cost of the taxpayer for 96 years was somehow an earth-shattering achievement.
Can you just take a video of me quietly reflecting so I can post it on my Twitter?
Thanks.
She had a wonderful sense of humour, they say somberly.
Yeah, and I'm sure June down the local care home had a great sense of humour, but it didn't stop her dying alone while her family watched a Zoom link in their living room, though did it?
So let's have a little bit of perspective here.
I'm seeing vocal opponents of the World Economic Forum's Great Reset saying, God save the King!
When Jimmy Savile's mate has been pushing the reset agenda along with the bombed villain Klaus Schwab since at least 1992.
Talk about Stockholm Syndrome.
The Daily Mail tells us that Britons will be encouraged to view the King as a kind and compassionate and wise monarch.
All right, North Korea.
I love having my views projected towards me rather than, you know, forming them myself organically based on the actions of the person I'm judging.
We're supposed to give Charles the benefit of the doubt, apparently.
Okay.
I can't wait to see Captain Climate put his money where his mouth is and be really happy about owning sod all.
I'm also seeing free speech advocates that believe in free speech enough to proclaim that you should be able to say what you like about, say, the Prophet Mohammed, but if you dare mention a word against the royals then you need firing from your job.
Selective freedom of speech isn't freedom of speech.
Everyone has it, or no one has it.
Them's the rules, Union Jack.
I didn't make them.
Now, I'm joined by Fred and Richard of Right Said Fred.
They don't really need an introduction, but I'll give one anyway.
Number one singles in over 70 countries, including the UK and USA.
Over 30 million records sold and over 100 million Spotify plays, which is not bad going.
And if Twitter's to believe, they're actually shills being funded by the government.
What a crazy life.
Welcome, guys.
To just start with that, because it started off as a bit of a fringe thing, probably a couple of years ago, everyone's a shill, everyone's working for the government, you're all Illuminati or whatever, but it's kind of got some traction, and I've been accused of it myself, so I'm interested to get your...
Your perspective on it?
Well, we get photos regurgitated.
One guy's got this thing about us, and he posts pictures.
There was one picture done in Germany.
It was part of a guy's exhibition.
And he sort of, I think, he nicked the David Hockney thing, where you take a polaroid of, many polaroids of the same thing, and you rebuild that image.
And so we've got a picture, I think it's me or Richard O'Connell, maybe both of us, He took a picture of our eye, then we hold the eye over our eye, which obviously makes us illuminati and elitist.
I'm waiting for my invite to Davos.
Backstage party.
When we did the Royal Variety Show, there was a picture of me and the Queen laughing.
And that's proof for some people that we're working for MI5.
Government shills, I knew it all along.
And when you tell people we haven't worked for 30 months, we've been cancelled.
A movie cancelled, commercials cancelled, songwriting sessions, everything pulled.
They forget, they don't want to talk about that.
They just want to talk about a photo they dug up from 30 years ago.
You can read whatever you want into anything.
That's one of the downsides of this whole thing.
It's made everybody absolutely mental.
Everybody's paranoid.
Everybody's cynical.
Nobody believes anything.
So it's carte blanche.
You can say whatever you like about anybody.
The first demonstration that I went to before Fred and there's a woman there holding up a placard outside Buckingham Palace and it said the Queen eats babies Well, she can think that if she likes.
But that's the kind of mental place that everybody was going to, you know?
Now, as it turns out, you'd be arrested for saying that.
Yeah, you would, actually.
You couldn't hold that post-trial.
No, you couldn't, no.
Well, it's kind of gone mad this week.
It has, hasn't it?
One thing I have seen, I've seen a lot of people that were very freedom of speech are now suddenly not freedom of speech if it's against the royal family.
My attitude is you should be able to say, Yes.
Otherwise it's not freedom of speech.
I agree.
I posted a Rest in Peace thing and the picture of Richard with the Queen and that's our bit.
I just think let people up.
There's a family mourning.
That's what people forget.
At its most basic level, it's a family thing.
Someone's lost a mother.
A grandmother.
Timing is everything.
And if you want to have a popular royal family, that's your choice.
But now is probably not the best time to do it.
We were told this morning of a woman in Wales Yes.
She, on Facebook, she owns a chip shop.
She owns a chip shop.
It was in Scotland.
Scotland, was it?
Yeah, Scotland, yeah.
She pops a bottle of champagne to celebrate the Queen's passing and everybody in the village smashes her shop up.
It's been, I saw it, it's been smashed up almost every day since.
Yeah.
I shouldn't laugh, sorry.
I mean, I'm sorry, but it is... I mean, timing, your timing.
I must admit, like, I'm not a fan of the Royal Family, never have been a fan of the Royal Family, but I didn't... I also didn't think that's great that someone's dead.
No, no.
Because I think also, you know, even if they've done heinous things, or you believe they have, I think...
That brings my vibration down, like the fear of sounding like a hippie, to kind of celebrate that sort of thing.
Yes, exactly.
Celebrate the negativity.
Exactly.
I mean, I agree.
I think now she's passed, I think the Royal Family, the credibility is going to sort of unravel.
But now is not the time, necessarily, to make that statement.
Just let people have their bereavement.
This was something I was interested to ask you, actually, because we've kind of, over the last I guess we're all shills together.
Over the last couple of years, there's kind of a bit of a group of us now that have sort of all kind of come together.
We've kind of seen through stuff.
Ukraine then happened and I think we lost a few allies that got sucked in by that, but a lot of us are still together.
But now I'm seeing some of those people see through the Great Reset, they see through the World Economic Forum, they're exposing it, have been for two years.
Giving it the big God save the King, Charles is going to do this, Charles is going to do that.
What are your thoughts on that?
Because I can't get my head around it.
My problem with Prince Charles, there's two things I think about Prince Charles.
One is the WF connection is really troubling, for me.
I mean, my question then is, who's he working for?
Who's he working for his subjects, or speaking to his subjects, where they are his main concern?
Or is he on the phone to Klaus Schwab, or Yuvi Harari?
Harari.
Harari.
And the other thing I thought was really revealing was the pen thing.
Did you see the pen thing?
Yeah.
I thought that was really interesting because I think the devil is in the detail, always.
And in 70 years we never saw, I didn't at least, see the Queen in a bad temper, throwing a wobbly.
We didn't see that once, I don't think.
And it's taken two days to see Prince Charles have a little bit of a moment because the pen's in the way.
Yeah, and then he did it when the pen leaked another time.
Yeah, I don't think he's going to have the mettle for it.
I don't think people will take to him though.
No, that's my feeling.
I saw that bit with the pen where he's doing that thing.
Get out of the way.
If you're doing that when you know the cameras are on you, could you imagine how he treats the staff in private?
You can tell people about how they treat waiters.
We used to wait tables and how we were treated by people.
I used to be a minicab driver and there were certain celebs I used to drive around.
Some were lovely and some were horrible.
You see it on a very real, one-to-one basis.
People, how you treat Those that are in the service industry, I think, is a real clue.
Absolutely.
Personally, I just think we should go straight to Princess Anne.
Queen Anne.
Get rid of the rest.
Really, I do.
I think she's absolutely amazing.
As if you think we need a monarchy.
That's another conversation.
It is.
My problem with not having a monarchy is, what do you do instead of?
I think, personally, a choice.
President Blair?
Don't give him ideas.
He'd be first in line.
He would.
That's the problem.
He wanted to be the EU Commissioner or President or something.
I mean, the guy's absolutely bonkers.
But anyway, that would be my problem.
I'm a Democrat.
But I'm a little bit split on this monarchy thing.
I have to admit.
I think a lot of people are, which is where a conversation comes in.
It's funny, when Tony Blair became Middle Eastern peace envoy, given everything, that's when I knew that there was just a lot of trolling going on.
That's hilarious, isn't it?
His first gig after invading Iraq.
That's like having the Dr Harold Shetland School of Wellbeing.
Now he's being interviewed as to how to end the Ukraine-Russia war.
He only knows how to start them.
He doesn't have a clue how to finish them.
Come on, why do they point the camera at that idiot?
That's another thing you wonder about the mainstream media.
The people they point the camera at, what are you doing?
And the ones they don't point the camera at.
Exactly.
In terms of you, because you mentioned at the top, in terms of having stuff cancelled, because that was the question I was going to ask you.
Yes, we have.
What happened to you as a result of speaking out?
Because most people in your industry didn't get their mouth shut.
I had people private message me on social media that have got a far bigger platform than I'll ever have.
Same thing.
Keep up the good work, lads.
They're out doing VAX-only gigs or PCR-tested-only events.
keep up the good work lads and they're out doing vax only gigs or you know PCR tested only events
and also I mean we we had a lot pulled 2018-19 were really good years for us and 2020 was
probably gonna be our was gonna be one of our most lucrative years since the band broke
because we had really good projects in America lined up.
We had two big commercials and a movie, and a run of shows, and all that got pulled.
And it's only now shows are coming back, and we might go on the road next year maybe, and promoters who actually sent emails saying, we'll never work with you again, are now sending emails to our agent, are the boys available?
How does that make you feel?
Do you think I'm too late?
In terms of the speaking out thing, it never struck me that speaking out was a problem.
It never crossed my mind for a single second, and then the minute Piers Morgan got his knickers in a twist about us turning up at the demo, I suddenly thought, You know they say that you can tell you're over the target when you get lots of flack.
And that's when I started thinking, hold on, there's something really weird going on here.
The minute you hear, particularly for me, it was the build back better mantra that came out.
And then I started reading a bit more.
Fred was down the so-called rabbit hole way before I was.
But I'm reading the real Dr Fauci book and I've just got to the polio bit towards the end.
And if even 10% of that book is true, they should all be in prison.
They should be.
And it's extraordinary to me.
If I was just dependent upon the mainstream media for information, I wouldn't know anything.
My knowledge would be so narrow.
Well, we still speak to friends.
You mention Klaus Schwab, you mention Peter McCulloch, or you mention Carl Hennigan or... Cary Mullis.
Cary Mullis.
They know who you're talking about.
But how can you not know?
It's 30 months on.
How can you not know about this?
Well, people sort of say, they think, they sort of say, phew, wow, at least we're getting back to normal now.
They don't understand.
This is a marathon.
It is.
It's not a sprint.
People haven't learnt that.
I witnessed this conversation the other day, and I mentioned it on the show I think last week, where I was at the local petrol station.
Our local petrol station went up to £2 for diesel, and it's come down now, I think it's about £1.75.
And I heard this conversation, these two guys were just saying, that's amazing that we're down to £1.75.
As if, it's great to be back to normal.
It was 140 nine months ago.
And I think the same with Liz Truss.
Everyone's going, oh, she's capping them.
She's capping them at double.
That's not a win.
No, it's not a win.
Exactly.
It's the same with freedom of speech and the rights and freedoms that people have got used to over the years.
Basically, what you do is you push people right up against the wall so there's nowhere else to go.
Then you let them come forward a little bit and give them the impression that things are back to normal.
But actually, that's where they used to be.
It's old school bullying.
Now they're over there.
It's also how gangs and mafia have worked for years.
You go and smash somebody's shop up and you say, oh, that's really bad.
If you want to pay us, it won't happen again.
Governments are a protection racket.
It's coercion.
It's really old school.
I used to work doors in clubs and stuff.
And it's the same mentality.
And also, the only time a doorman has any power is when you say no.
The minute I saw that it was a new road regulation thing, that even if you're a passenger in a car and you're using a phone, you can be liable to a £1,000 fine.
The minute I saw that it was a new road regulation thing, that even if you're a passenger in
a car and you're using a phone, a passenger in a car and you're using a phone, you can
be liable to a £1,000 fine.
What's that based on?
Based on nothing but the government sticking its hand in your pocket to get as much money
as it possibly can.
That is all it is.
It's exactly the same as... It's also important as GPS.
Yeah, Fred's... You can't sit there with it, can you?
Fred's wife flew to Spain.
And there was no mask mandates, nothing at all, until you get... You're on the gantry, about to enter the plane, right?
And there's a thing there.
Do you have a mask?
No.
Oh, we have masks.
Five pounds, please.
It's money.
I don't know why people cannot see it's money.
That's all it is.
How do you stay sane?
Because I ask this question to most people that were at early doors, as yourselves were.
Because for me, I have days where I don't really feel like getting out of bed today.
I don't really feel like facing people today.
And when you see I guess even over the last week, how people have reacted with this whole God Save the King, this whole kind of submission, like people queuing up for 36 hours in the rain and stuff, and you're just like, you have not learnt anything from the last two years about having some kind of sovereignty within yourself, and how much you're self-respecting.
I think it's odd that people are happy to spend £10 on some flowers for someone they've never met, but won't give a homeless guy a quid.
You know, we live in Windsor and Pescott Street is a possession zone.
There's quite a few homeless.
And you'll see loads of people, there's this army of people with their flowers.
They all walk past.
These guys sitting there haven't got a pot to piss in.
Yeah, we thought it'd be pretty cool if the Palace had said, you know, don't buy, don't spend money on flowers.
Give it to your local, you know, homeless charity or whatever.
That would have been a really nice move, I think.
Yeah.
They've now got so many teddy bears they're having to destroy them apparently because they can't, health and safety won't allow them to give them the kids homes, kids charities.
They've got a tent full of teddy bears.
They've got some warehouses.
And you can't give it to kids because of health and safety.
No you can't because of health and safety.
Apparently that's what we were told.
No, it sounds about right.
You know, that's been going on for a while.
I remember there was a pastor in America who was arrested several times for serving homeless people food.
That's right, yeah.
Was that the Polish guy, Pikaus?
I think it was, yeah.
Was he Polish?
Yeah, yeah.
It's extraordinary.
It is.
It has gone really, really mental, I think.
And what really got me was, I read the Peter McCulloch thing and his early treatment protocol to basically stop Do whatever you can to stop people getting into hospital.
That's what we really need to do.
And if it means off-label, repurposed drugs, then let's give it a shot.
And it was quite successful.
The minute you get into hospital on a ventilator, it's game over.
So he was expecting, if I remember in the book, he was expected to be lauded as some kind of, you know, It's genius, you know?
And no, not a bit of it, because the whole thing was, you know, a hospital gets paid if you're admitted, then it gets paid more money if you go into ICU.
So it was all driven by money, right from the very beginning.
There's no money in vitamin D. And there's no money in vitamin D. There's no money in healthy people.
No, exactly.
And that's why, you know, when people think about Gates's obsession with the vaccine, if he was to spend the money he's spent, or the money that he's arranged, same with Fauci, on campaigns for clean water, good sanitation, good diets, educating people about health and all that kind of stuff, that would make the difference.
That's what saves people's lives.
But he's not interested in that.
That doesn't give him a hard-on, apparently.
No, but you've also got someone like him and many others that talk consistently over the years about the fact that there's too many people on the planet and now all of a sudden you have to believe that, well they're trying to save everyone.
Yes, exactly.
Two don't add up.
No, they don't.
No, exactly.
And also people have been, Boris Johnson's father, Stanley Johnson, he's on a talk show or quiz show or something and he's sitting next to someone and he's very open about it.
He said, no, the UK should be 15 million people max.
Well, then you've got the Duke of Edinburgh saying he wants to come back as a deadly virus.
Yeah, to blow the population down.
Sound like lovely folks.
Yeah, they do.
It's very odd.
Must come round for Christmas.
Yeah, there have been some odd things said by lots of different people.
And I remember some time ago when the Queen said, several years ago now, the Queen said, there are dark forces at work of which many of us don't know anything.
I think she knew Through her contacts, there was other stuff going on.
Imagine the stuff she's seen and heard.
Oh my God.
Extraordinary.
My feeling with her was that she dropped the ball on the Canadian thing.
That's when I started to lose a little bit of patience.
Because Canada's a part of the Commonwealth, they're all her subjects.
New Zealand and Australia.
Once the government went rogue and started behaving in the way that it did under that idiot Trudeau, then I thought she should have stood up.
As a bulwark between the people and a government that's gone AWOL.
I know it's political, and I know that she's not meant to be political, and she wouldn't have had to say anything particularly outrageous.
She would have just had to try and issue a statement of calm.
My thoughts are with everybody who's affected by it.
You can come up with a language.
She was political in the sense, I guess, when she said, The people that aren't jabbed are selfish.
That turned some people off.
That's a poor statement.
That was Johnson on the phone, or the big pharma on the phone.
That's our position.
Do you think the Queen had the jab?
Come on.
I don't believe she did for a minute.
I think it's very odd.
Would you give an experimental therapy?
Come on.
And I think she was used, I really do, when the Duke of Edinburgh died and she was in the pews all on her own with the mask on.
She was being used.
Oh yeah, to sell that to everyone else.
If she can do it then you will just follow suit.
Exactly.
So I think, you know, it's been a pretty miserable experience, the whole thing.
It has.
The areas where people have tried to shine a light on positivity.
I agree with you about getting up in the morning.
Getting up in the morning, wellbeing, vitamin D, a bit of a walk.
It's been said a thousand times, but look at the policy where you close yoga and fitness and health clubs, but you keep fast food chains open.
I mean that's a very very strange place to go.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean I fell down, for the first, because I just worked like a prisoner of war probably
for like the last 10-15 years.
When it first happened, obviously, I stood up as much as you did and just said, this is wrong, this is wrong.
But deep down, for the first couple of days, it was like I spent time at home, the weather was amazing, I was with my daughter.
Because I'd been working, I'd missed her first steps, I'd missed her first words, and suddenly I was there with her all the time.
It was like, this is amazing.
But it didn't take long to then be like, this is so depressing, this is not a way to live.
And, you know, we didn't go along with it to the sense of, like, I took her, we lived in a tiny village at the time, and I took her to the local park, and the council had wrapped up the park, other parents, not just me, had ripped it all off, you know, kids going on the swing.
So there was some, you know, which was great.
But at the same time, like, I remember having a conversation with someone, they were saying, how are you doing?
I was like, yeah, but I drank a little bit too much during lockdown, to be honest, just filling the void.
And they were like, well, I think everyone did.
I was like, mate, I had kegs delivered from the local brewery.
To the house.
Like, you know, not massive ones but, you know, big enough.
Because it was like, what are we going to do?
Just sit out in the garden drinking?
And then, obviously, then it's got to this point now where people that, you know, probably took that further in terms of alcoholism, drug addiction and all that sort of stuff, we're, you know, we're picking up the pieces of that now.
Yes, we are, yeah, absolutely.
We always knew it was going to come.
The cost of living, it's the cost of lockdown crisis is what it is.
It is, of course it is.
You shut down a whole country for two years?
Yeah.
Turn on the switch and it all goes back to normal.
It's mental.
Exactly.
I mean, we spoke to Simon Dolan, who's obviously a very wealthy and successful businessman, on the show very, very early on.
And he said, if you shut down an economy for a month, you have no idea the level of what you're doing.
Absolutely right.
For two years.
I mean, people honestly at home aren't prepared for it, I don't think.
And I fear that I don't think I am either, actually, for the levels of how bad this is going to get.
What do you think will make a difference Because I'm not sure if the ballot box is going to make a difference to anything, really.
No.
And what do you think people can do to actually try and turn this around?
Well, my sort of default position is don't comply.
I know it sounds really lame, but if everybody took that stance, no, I'm not doing that.
Because policy needs consent.
Everything needs consent.
It's our country, it's not theirs.
And so if people are unhappy, they should not do something.
You know, I know people talk about defund the BBC, and I actually don't agree with that, but that is a personal choice.
But that mentality should apply to everything.
If you think something's too expensive, don't buy it.
If somebody won't take cash, go, OK, I'll go somewhere else.
It's just basic, and if everybody did that, the army of dissent would be quite extraordinary.
So I, personally, I think it's a simple, not simple, but I think that's one way you can.
So it's almost get enough people on side.
Yeah.
Because I agree, I thought March 2020, if they just said shut down the business and the business owners have gone, what?
No.
No.
Done.
Yeah.
Game over.
Exactly.
It would.
And also, you know, obviously all the big chains were allowed to stay open.
Of course they were.
The Walmart's and the Ikea's and stuff or whoever.
But the corner shops, the individual boutique shops weren't.
That doesn't make any sense either.
No.
Exactly.
I think people have seen through that now.
I also think we need, as a people, and it's true in America too, I think, we need to start demanding more of the people we elect.
We really do.
Yes, we should.
We really do.
And choose better people.
We've got lazy men.
I think in one local election, someone was saying in one particular borough, it was a 12% turnout.
People don't believe it anymore, they're quite apathetic.
What can I do?
Does that make any difference?
Neil Oliver was saying, you know, he went into the booth and made his cross.
He said, but deep down I knew it wasn't going to make any difference.
So I think, I believe in this idea of honourable leadership.
I believe that.
And I think it's possible.
But all the time you elect people who are like Johnson.
I mean, Johnson doesn't actually believe in anything but Johnson.
No.
No, no.
Same as Sunak.
Same as Sunak.
His trust, I mean, I don't know.
I don't know enough about it, to be honest with you.
But she seems incredibly beige.
Yeah.
You know, not a very inspiring lady, but you know, it's early days.
What was interesting, I thought, I mean at the time when Corbyn was the leader of the Labour Party, I don't sympathise, I'm not on that side, although I'm centre-left, I'm not that, I don't agree with a lot of his positioning.
Looking back, what I thought was he believed in what he was saying, pretty much.
I mean, I know he wobbled on the old EU thing.
But generally speaking, he believed with what he was saying.
And that's not common now.
You know, it's not common.
And you get Ricky Sunak saying, well, I always thought the lockdowns were a bad idea.
Oh yeah, of course she did.
Nigel Farage, he's absolutely right, he'll be living on the west coast of America within two years.
Yeah, absolutely, he'll be working for a big pharmaceutical company.
Liz Truss is another one with that though, because I looked into her, I didn't know a lot about her either, and obviously SUNAC's worth 200 million or whatever, and it's kind of Pretty common knowledge where he got his money from, you know, cashing in on a financial crisis.
But with her, I looked at her and I thought, right, so you studied at uni and then you worked for Shell as an economist.
So you've been working for an energy company working on how to make them more money.
That's good news.
And then you then worked at a think tank and then you came to government and she's worth 8.4 million.
It's a lot of money.
To earn in a short period of time.
She's not an old lady.
So I worked it out.
I think it was the wages she's on as an MP, she would have to work for 96 years to earn that much.
So she's not got that from that.
I'll leave that to the viewers to kind of work out where that money's come from, essentially.
This is the same with Jacinda Ardern, isn't it?
I mean, she's loaded.
I think it was, was it George Carlin?
Oh, it wasn't George Carlin, actually.
Yeah, he's a total legend.
It was Robin Williams who said that politicians should wear Formula One overalls.
Wouldn't that be great?
And it would surprise a few people to see that.
But before we finish up, because it's so great to have you here in the studio, but you've got a book.
We have?
Yes, we've got an autobiography out called Surviving... No, Still Too Sexy, Surviving Rights of Fred.
Which is an American assumption, actually.
Yes, exactly.
And it's just, yes, it's an autobiography done in the shape of a conversation between the two of us.
Oh, that's great.
Joel McIver was the co-author and sort of guided us through it.
And it's just a warts and all, you know.
It's been banned by Waterstones.
That's a badge of honour, that.
Yeah.
Wardstones, HMV, Sister Ray, Rough Trade have all said no.
They don't have anything to do with this.
And WX Smith have been pretty supportive.
Yeah, WX Smith, amazing.
They've been very cool.
And most of the others.
Amazon have been fine.
It's on there.
But in a way, just very quickly, that whole thing with Sister Ray and Rough Trade, it's a little bit like Rage Against the Machine.
Yes.
The very people who you think are going to be rebellious and kick up the dust are the ones that wear the masks and shut up and do nothing.
And the very people who you think are going to fold are the ones that speak out.
It's ridiculous.
So W.H.
Smith, this company that's been around for over, what, 200 years or something, they have been absolutely amazing.
But these little sort of alternative, you know, sort of, you know, like rough trade, you know, where you expect them to be a little bit more punky, Or independent.
One guy, his son was going to do a performance in the shop some months ago and they said that the band can play but they've all got to wear masks.
So they didn't do anything.
It's some fetish, you know.
It'd work if you were Slipknot.
For some bands it would, yeah.
For a band like Therapy or something, maybe it would work.
And also, why is it that people who should wear a mask, like Jacinda Ardern, don't?
There you go.
She's a very, very disturbing lady.
Really, she's a worry, isn't she?
Absolutely.
But thank you so much for coming in.
Great to have you up here.
Thanks for having us.
It's been really nice.
And the drive was easy.
It was good.
Yeah, thanks.
Fantastic.
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