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June 29, 2022 - David Icke
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People Are Getting Streetwise - David Icke
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Good morning, good evening, good afternoon, or a very good day to you when and wherever you're
listening from.
And a very warm welcome to the show.
I'm your host, Simon Laurie King.
Coming up on today's show, my guest as a former professional footballer, television sports presenter, is now a successful and very accomplished author of over 20 books.
Around the world he packs any venue when public speaking.
His online blogs and videos or other appearances are eagerly watched by thousands.
For over 20 years this man has worked tirelessly in the name of truth and exposing the darkness that threatens to now encompass us all.
My guest today really marks a milestone in this podcast's history, as far as I'm concerned.
And for this opportunity, I am truly grateful.
His stance on current world events and those in the past which have led us here will not perhaps sit well with everyone listening, but I believe it important, nay, imperative, to have a discussion on, as I see it, the theft of freedom and the subsequent murder of happier times.
In the 90s, when my guest was beginning his own very difficult journey, life for me anyway was much simpler.
No mobile phone addiction for one, and conspiracies were just that.
Fast forward or slowly trudge to the here and now, I find myself in an upside down world where common sense has truly been deposed.
Not only does it feel like the lunatics run the asylum.
They are now building an extension. I Certainly have questions and my guest today. I'm sure we'll
be able to answer at least some of them I'm hoping so without further delay. It's my absolute
pleasure to welcome David Icke to the show Welcome to my show!
In the late 90s and into the early 2000s, having by then become a very popular and successful public speaker and author, there were still those who laughed at your critique of the world and its hierarchy.
But here we are in 2022, and the world, in my opinion, is now the subject of a hostile and nefarious takeover bid.
David, there is nobody laughing now.
I also think you amongst anyone in our current history can say, I told you so.
I'm sure, though, there will be no joy or satisfaction in that for you.
My question, therefore, what the hell is going on in this time we call our lives?
And is it too late for humanity to pull back from this path of dark insanity that we find ourselves being dragged along?
Well, you know, the most frustrating thing about what I do Is that the answer to what you describe is so simple.
What's not simple is people doing it.
Whenever you have a situation where a relative handful of people, and it is a relative handful, are dictating and transforming the lives and the society of nearly 8 billion people, Then the answer is always staring you in the face.
And that is that the eight billion stop cooperating with the few.
And if you look through human history, it's an endless story of the few controlling the many because the many give their power away in the form of acquiescence to the few.
And so...
Well, at no point until artificial intelligence completely takes over, which is the plan, is it impossible to turn this around?
What makes it potentially impossible is humanity's refusal to turn it around by refusing to cooperate with authority.
And so if you look at the COVID era, you see the classic foundations of what I'm describing.
You had people accepting what authority told them in the early months, in the spring of 2020, And as a result of believing it, without checking it or questioning it, they went under house arrest, meekly, mildly, and set in motion a series of societal transformations, not least economic, that the whole COVID hoax, because that's what it was, was designed to do.
What has happened...
Encouragingly, is that as the COVID story has got more and more obviously to be dismissed because of the lies, perpetuating lies upon lies upon lies, and nothing that we were told, including about the fake vaccine, has turned out to be true.
In fact, the very inversion of the truth.
More and more people are beginning to say, well, hold on a minute, if I'm being lied to about this, what else am I being lied about and lied to about?
Well, the answer to that is almost everything, virtually everything, if not everything, in terms of authority.
And so the answer...
Remains the same. We stop cooperating with our own enslavement.
We stop doing what authority tells us just because authority tells us.
And we stop being intimidated into silence and acquiescence by fellow humans who have chosen to buy what they're told and have become foot soldiers and imposers of authority upon the rest of the population that doesn't want to acquiesce.
This is why if you Question why we should have a fake vaccine that doesn't fit the criteria and definition of a vaccine when it has had no trials worth the name.
And when you question that, well, maybe we shouldn't be doing it, you are demonized by those who are little more than software programs with authority tapping the keys and pressing enter.
So, you know, we are facing a situation now, which is something I've predicted through the decades, and How could I do that?
I mean, did I pull it out of the ether?
No. Did I make it up?
No. And just got lucky?
No. The reason I was able to do it is that there's a plan, and it's a plan for humanity and the transformation of human society that goes back hundreds of years, and if you go deep enough into it, even thousands.
And we're now looking at the endgame of total human control with the introduction of AI and the now openly promoted agenda to connect AI artificial intelligence to the human brain so that artificial intelligence becomes the human mind and that will then be the endgame because What has happened up to this point, because the foundation of mass human control by the few has to be, by definition, the control of the perceptions of human.
The masses. Because the idea is to get people to accept things and to behave in ways that suit the agenda so the agenda can play out.
And to do that, you have to control the perceptions of the population.
Because from our perceptions comes behavior.
We behave as we do because we perceive as we do.
So what we've had up to this point is the attempted control of perception leading to the control of behavior.
And where does perception come from?
It comes from the information we receive to form those perceptions.
Thus, the idea has been and the goal has been to control what people see and hear from which they form those
perceptions which dictate their behavior.
And so through the years we have seen more and more control for a long time.
And that control was through religion, where religion dictated what people must think and believe, perceive. And there
were consequences, including burning at the stake at one point of not doing that.
And then there was a breakout of more freedom, people started to reject religion.
And there was a period where there wasn't freedom, but there was more freedom.
And now this endgame is kicking in to delete that.
So the reason you're seeing this hysterical level of censorship, even the mildest questioning now of the official story is censored.
And we've got an online safety bill coming through the British Parliament at the moment To absolutely delete much of what's left of the ability to communicate with people outside the parameters of authority.
The reason we have this Hysterical censorship is to control what people see and hear to dictate their perception and thus their behavior.
Because when you're trying to program someone's perception it's not just what you put before the people From your point of view, you also have to delete other points of view, other evidence, other information, other ways of looking at a situation or the world.
Because what you're doing is you're saying to people, it's what people like me do, hey, this is what they're telling you.
But there's another way of looking at this.
And if you look at it this way, it explains a lot of the things that are not explained by the official version.
And so they're looking at this and they think, okay...
We've not got everything we wanted from the COVID playing of the cards because of this alternative bloody media that's exposing what we're doing.
So what we've got to do is we've got to delete that.
And that's what this online safety bill is all about.
And that's something very similar is going through the parliament in Canada and through Australia and around the world for this very same reason.
So up to this point, They've had to seek to control perception by controlling information received.
The big endgame play goes beyond that.
And that's to connect artificial intelligence to the human brain.
And therefore, artificial intelligence becomes human perception.
No need to manipulate it anymore.
It's coming direct.
And that's the real endgame of what's going on.
So you have people like Ray Kurzweil, the so-called futurist Google executive.
You have people like Klaus Schwab at the fascist World Economic Forum who are openly talking about this.
They're openly saying this is what's going to happen.
So what we've reached is the point where they're ceasing to hide what they want.
Because you can only hide what you want for a certain amount of time.
You can do it for a very long time, as we've seen.
You can operate under the radar.
But there comes a point where you have to break the surface where people can see the changes that you're making.
Very clearly, and that's where we are now.
So you have to move from hiding what you want to promoting and selling and sales pitching what you want, which is where we are now, where they're openly talking about the things that I wrote about and was dismissed for writing about over the decades.
Do you think that not only to break the human spirit, That maybe it would be possible to capture the human soul.
Though it seems a bit of a far-fetched question.
But if we can somehow control the masses and put them into almost a matrix-type way, do you think we could capture the consciousness?
No, we shouldn't be surprised.
Because, I mean, in many ways, they've already done it.
I've got a book.
It's just come off the printers, actually.
It's called The Trap.
And in part, I go into this whole area you're talking about in some detail.
Because, you know, to understand the world that we see, we have to have some understanding of the world that we don't see.
One of the great ways that perception has been manipulated...
And, you know, if you don't want people to know something...
Then you either censor it directly if someone else is trying to say it, or you make sure that through your systems of communication, i.e.
the education system and the media, what you don't want people to hear simply is not discussed.
And so this whole life after death story is hardly ever talked about.
I mean, you would think, well, I would think, That one of the things that should be at the focus of people's attention and interest is, who are we?
Where are we?
What is this place?
What is life?
What happens after death?
I mean, this should be surely at the forefront.
You would think so.
But it's hardly ever discussed by comparison with what you think about Manchester United and who they're going to sign and what about the game show and Simon Cowell's lady's crap.
So this whole area of life after death It should be at the center of our inquiry, but it's not.
And of course, mainstream science has been set up through funding and The various elements that control science simply not to discuss it.
You know, you talk to a scientist.
Well, they're not scientists. Scientists are open-minded seekers of truth and knowledge.
They don't say, well, I'm not going there because it doesn't suit my belief system.
That's not a scientist at all.
It's a man imprisoned by his own...
Lack of interest in what's really happening because it doesn't suit him.
So if you're a scientist and you go into these deeper areas outside the parameters of what mainstream science says reality is, then you soon lose your funding and lose your credibility among your peers who are also software programs parroting the same nonsense.
But from my point of view, I want to know who we are and where we are and what happens after death.
And what I've been doing is, for this book, The Trap, is to start to look about this question.
What happens when the body dies?
What is the body?
What is this place that we call the human world?
And what I've concluded from the evidence that I've seen and the experiences that I've had over the last 32 years now is that actually we live in a simulation.
This world we think is so natural is actually a simulation.
It's a virtual reality simulation.
When I first said that, just after the millennium, of course, it was dismissed as ridiculous.
And at that time, there was only one other person that I could see publicly who was talking about the fact that we could live in a simulation.
And that was a guy called Nick Bostrom at Oxford University.
But he saw it in a different way to me.
But at least he was looking at the fact that maybe this is not as real as we think it is.
And what has happened since I started talking and writing about that just after the millennium is that more and more of mainstream science as scientists have come out and said, well, actually, it does look like we do live in a simulation.
And when people look into it, I mean, really open-mindedly scientifically, I mean, the evidence is increasingly overwhelming that that's the case.
All these great mysteries of life and Reality actually start dissolving once you grasp the fact that this is a simulation.
So I've been writing about this for a long time.
But in the trap, I go even further because I'm looking at, okay, Well, if we live in a simulation, okay, and it's a simulation designed specifically to entrap our sense of identity and our sense of reality, thus we are playing in a game we don't even understand, therefore we are helpless in that sense.
Not only that, but the question is, okay, so you leave the body, all right?
Your consciousness leaves the body.
Well, why the bloody hell does it come back into something that is a trap?
And, you know, I've looked at reincarnation, and I think it's real, but I think it's a trap.
Because what I'm being asked to believe as I read about reincarnation Is that we live on a planet.
If you take the projected size of the universe by mainstream science, not that that is anything like the reality, but let's just take that on board, the size of the universe as they perceive it.
By comparison, planet Earth is the equivalent of a billionth of a pinhead.
So I'm being asked to believe That consciousness leaves the body but has to keep coming back to learn lessons so that it can reach a state of enlightenment where it doesn't have to reincarnate through the cycle anymore.
And with all the infinity of possibility and potential, all those lights you see in what we perceive as the night sky, no, no.
You can't explore that.
You have to keep incarnating on a planet equivalent of the billionth of a pinhead.
It makes absolutely no sense to me.
It's just ridiculous in my view.
But then, hold on, I do accept that the phenomena of reincarnation is real.
So what the hell is it really?
And what I kind of perceived as I'm researching and writing this book, The Trap, is that actually this simulation is not just on the level of the five senses.
This simulation, there are other levels of this simulation.
And this is where consciousness, what is perceived as the soul, actually goes after leaving the body.
If it still remains in a perceptual state of deceit, which impacts upon its vibrational state, its frequency state.
This is the point.
Every time we think, every time we feel and have an emotion, We are generating and vibrating at the frequency represented by that thought, that emotion, whatever.
So hate has a low vibrational state.
Love has a vastly high vibrational state.
Depression, low vibrational state.
Joy, high vibrational state.
And so when you leave the body, That process doesn't end.
You are still vibrating to the frequency of your perceptions.
What we call perceptions are basically an energetic field that are the sum total of us, our attitudes, our thoughts, our beliefs, our ways of seeing self in the world.
So when consciousness leaves the body, if you're still vibrating In a vibrational state that's operating within the walls of this simulation, the other levels of the simulation, the non-physical levels, if you like, then you're not going to escape from it.
And, you know, you look at religions and you look at things like the esoteric concept of the ring past not, as they call it, and they come together to talk about a field A field, a frequency field, which you cannot get through unless you are in a high vibrational state.
So it's a trap.
And so when you look at reincarnation, the official reincarnation, the Eastern reincarnation, what they're talking about is you have to keep reincarnating To learn lessons, to reach a state of enlightenment frequency that allows you to escape from the cycle of reincarnation.
Well, that is actually what I'm saying.
But what I'm saying beyond that is that that's not to make you enlightened.
That's to keep you entrapped.
And if you reach an expansion of awareness, of consciousness, so that when you leave the body, you are in this state of awareness frequency that can just leave this simulation, then you leave it.
But if you don't, you go into the recycling cycle, the feedback loop.
Where consciousness goes out of the body into other levels of the simulation and then comes back in.
And I've written in the trap of the experiences that people have described when they've been put under deep hypnosis and they've been taken to the between worlds, the between life state, the between human life state.
And what they describe in compelling, excuse me, Common themes is actually another level of the track where they're not free.
It's just another level of the deceit.
And for me, the soul is not even what we are.
It's that part of us that is entrapped within the simulation, the matrix in its different levels.
What we truly are, I use the term spirit, We just are.
We have no form.
We have no individuality in the sense of the human personality.
But what we are is an expression of all possibility, all potential.
We are all that is, has been, and ever can be that can manifest anything we choose and in any way we choose.
That's the level beyond the simulation, all levels of the simulation, that this conspiracy wants to ensure that we do not connect with and certainly do not identify with.
Because this is the key point.
What we identify with dictates our perception, our self-identity, and thus dictates our frequency.
So you can self-identify with being ethyl on the checkout.
And that's all you are.
And you will then start vibrating to the frequency that represents the self-identity of I'm just ethyl on the checkout.
You can then identify with being a soul in the reincarnation cycle.
But you're still identifying with that which is entrapped within the matrix.
So you're still going to be vibrating.
You're still going to be generating a frequency that's within the walls of the matrix in its various levels.
When you self-identify with being this infinite spirit, this expression of all possibility, This free, literal free spirit that can manifest in any way at once.
All that level of consciousness is way, way beyond this matrix in all its forms.
And therefore, by self-identifying with that, this is the true I, you connect with that.
That self-identity with it syncs your frequency with it, and suddenly you start to be inspired through insight, etc., by that level of awareness.
And it's the same as being inside something, i.e.
the matrix, What you see inside of it, the information that is fed to you from inside of it, dictates your perception of reality.
But when you are accessing levels of awareness that are way beyond that matrix, you start to see what's around you in a completely different way.
You start to see the deceit.
You start to see that actually...
Everything's connected and everything is not apart from everything else as we perceive it to be.
And it's similar.
You could symbolize it like this.
You're standing and looking at very close range at something.
You're not aware of what it is, but it's just a bit of a blur, but you're just looking at it.
And you say, well, what's that?
Then you go, I don't know really, it's this reddish colour, I've got that, but it's all kind of blurred and I don't know.
I say, so take a step back.
Ah, it's a bloody wall!
I was looking at bricks at close range.
Oh yeah, right. Now take another step back.
Oh, the bricks are part of a house.
Another step. Oh, the house is part of a street.
A lot of steps back.
Ah, it's part of a town.
And suddenly, the context of what you were looking at to start with, what's this?
I don't understand it. Suddenly, you go, oh, I see it now.
Why? Because you have a panorama that Of view of what you formerly had nothing but a close range sight of that made no sense to you.
And in the same way, you know, you're in this kind of matrix and all these things are happening and people are interacting with you and events are happening.
And they seem random and they seem unconnected.
And we talk about good luck and bad luck and all this stuff.
But when you expand your awareness beyond the walls of the matrix so it's no longer totally dictating your perception of reality, you go, oh my god, I can see it now!
And you realize that it's a trap.
It's a virtual reality trap being fed to our consciousness to make us believe we're somewhere that we're not.
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So a trap to stop the natural progressive nature of the soul rather than...
A soul trap. A deliberate diversion away from our potential as a species.
This, I admit, would tend to change the dynamics of how one would awaken to bigger things such as injustice and truth.
Or if totally hooked, blind and sinkered, blind, unquestioned submission.
Is that a fair assessment, do you think?
If you look at the things you just talked about, I've been saying for decades in the books that the foundation of human control, which what I call this global cult is involved in, and AI is the endgame of it, it is to so focus attention of the target population in the five senses that we become disconnected from an influence of our expanded awareness.
Like I said, expanded awareness is a far higher frequency than ignorance.
Manipulated ignorance, which is what this world is all about.
It's not an education system at all.
It's what the media is all about.
It's selling ignorance to the population and diverting them from the truth and inverting the truth.
So Once the five senses fall for that, they will be what I call the body-mind level of us.
That will be vibrating at a very low frequency.
Whereas our expanded awareness is vibrating at a very high frequency.
So obviously, if you just take the analogy of radio stations on the dial, they're on completely different wavelengths.
So they're not going to talk to each other.
This is how we become disconnected and focused in the five senses.
And so anything that can lower the vibration of the body and the body-mind achieves that end.
So beliefs, as I've talked about, are energetic frequency phenomena.
So if you can be pulled into fear, classic low vibrational state.
That's why people say when they're in a state of fear or depression, they say, oh, I feel so heavy today.
It's because their body and mind are vibrating so slowly because of their...
Perceptual state that it feels heavy, it feels dense, because energetically it is.
And when people feel joy and love, they say, oh, I feel so light today, because they're higher frequency states.
So the last thing for a start that this...
This cult, this manipulative force wants these people in states of happiness, lack of fear, love, joy.
They don't want these things. They want you in a low vibrational state and they structure the world to keep you there.
Never more obviously than today with all the things that are going on, being made to go on, not acting naturally, made to go on.
And in terms of The food and the drink that you consume, well, the more they can pollute that in their various ways with chemicals and other ways, the more the food you're consuming and the things you're drinking are low vibrational phenomena.
So when you're introducing low vibrational phenomena into your body, Your body, which is a frequency phenomenon also, then you're going to lower its frequency.
But the biggest key to this control of our frequency, thus entrapment of our perception, is what I call the field.
The five senses decode reality so that, I mean, you know, our visual reality is so tiny, it's insane, laughable, pathetic.
It's what's called visible light.
The bandit that we can see and perceive as a visual reality is so tiny, it's laughable.
And so what they are seeking to do Is to put us in a low vibrational state within this very narrow band of human sight and to hold us there.
But because of this band of frequency that the five senses can visually perceive is so narrow, all it can see is the frequency of what we call form.
The frequency of the body, the frequency of a computer, a wall, a washing machine, things.
What we call forms is what the five senses can see.
Can't see anything beyond that.
And therefore, the five senses are telling us that everything is apart from everything else.
With empty space in between.
It's not, but that's what the five senses perceive, and thus we believe it.
But actually, if you could see deeper into the visual field, beyond what we call visible light, and some psychic people can, but it's not the norm.
Then you would see that actually there's no empty space between the forms that you perceive.
They are part of what you could very accurately symbolize as a Wi-Fi field.
It's a field of energy consciousness.
That connects everything.
It connects me to you.
It connects this computer before me to me.
It connects everything to everything else.
And I call it the field.
Now, if you want to affect all the fish and all the sea life at the same time, Well, you're going to have a hell of a job affecting every fish and what have you by targeting every fish individually.
You're not going to be able to do it, but you don't have to.
If you want to target all the fish at the same time, you target the sea that they're swimming in because they're interacting with that all the time.
And what the state of the sea becomes the state of the fish.
So we have this field of energy consciousness that we are all interacting with all the time.
And the big target of this cult is this field.
To lower its vibrational state so that the target population on the energetic field, the electromagnetic field level of themselves, is interacting with a low vibrational state.
And unless you have a high vibrational state being generated from within you by your connection to higher levels of awareness, What that low vibrational C, Wi-Fi, is going to do is lower your vibrational state.
And now we can start to understand, there are many other ways they do it, but we can now start to understand what 5G is really about.
And 6G and 7G that they're planning to roll out.
And all the electromagnetic technologically produced radiation that is millions of times greater today than when I was born in 1952.
They're targeting the field and the more that they can Manipulate us to generate low vibrational emotion and low vibrational thought.
We are feeding into the field.
We are feeding into the field and lowering its vibration by the way that we feel and think and act.
And so it becomes a self-perpetuating thing.
And this is why the answer is for us to reverse that.
It's not about getting angry and getting hateful and all these things in our reaction to what's going on.
It's moving into a high vibrational state where you're not just letting it happen.
I mean, I'm probably one of the last people on earth that's just let it happen.
But you don't let it pull you in when you're exposing it And when you're living your life to those low vibrational states, which means you are feeding what you are challenging.
It's our perceptual state that has been brought into this low vibrational way that has caused the problem and entrapped us.
And it's the high vibrational state that will get us out of it.
So, in the end, it's all about perception and it's all about the energy frequency that's generated by whatever state of perception you're in.
And they know this.
You see, we live in two worlds.
We think we live in one, but we live in two.
There's the world of the population and then there's the world of this cult.
And the difference between the two is knowledge.
This cult is a global secret society network with a globally central mission control orchestrating what I call the spider.
And why are the secret societies secret?
To keep secrets.
Well, who from? The population.
So what's happening is, and I'm talking the inner core of the Secret Society Network, not, you know, Bill and Joe down the Freemasonry Lodge, the inner core of the secret society network.
They are passing on through the generations The detailed, deep knowledge of this reality and how it works and how humans are interacting with it and being affected by it, how perception becomes our experience reality, that's being passed on through the Sequel Society Network, whereas the general population I'll put through from the earliest age, an education system which was created by the cult,
not to educate, but to keep people in ignorance.
That's why J.D. Rockefeller, the oil tycoon, talked about the education system that he fundamentally helped to create in America.
He and his colleagues, they weren't looking to educate people.
They were basically looking for slaves to their system.
And then you've got the media, which is doing the same.
It's keeping the population in ignorance.
And overwhelmingly, and I've worked in journalism for a long time, the people who are keeping the people in ignorance are themselves freaking ignorant, even though they call themselves journalists, they are ignorant of the fact that they're doing it.
Because they believe, not all of them, of course, But great numbers of them actually believe what they're telling people is the truth when it's not.
And what is your truth, Mr.
Journalist? Well, whatever authority says, exactly.
And so you've got two levels of knowledge.
The population's level of knowledge is systematically to suppress knowledge and awareness.
And the cults...
level of knowledge, which is to perpetuate through the generations the awareness of how it all works.
And so they have so created a chasm of understanding between themselves and the population That when people come along like me and say to people, this is how they're doing it, the population just go, oh, you are insane, man!
That's not possible!
No. You don't think it's possible.
That's not the same as it not being possible.
And what I've found very encouraging in the last two years, particularly the last year or so, is the number of people who've not only sussed the COVID as a scam, But they've opened their minds to actually how deep does this rabbit hole really go?
And they're opening their minds to possibilities of what's behind all this and how it's done that they never would have before.
There's been a great awakening as a result of COVID, as well as among enormous numbers of people also, a greater sleeping that has taken people even deeper into the coma.
From a professional footballer to sports presenter on television, the journey could have been easier for you if you just stayed put behind that sports desk, collecting a decent salary and holding on to that rung of the ladder.
But you didn't. Instead, you let go and chose the very difficult path you're on today.
Why is that? Well, first of all, if I'd have stayed in television, I would have died of boredom and it wouldn't have taken long.
You know...
The media is such a vacuous profession, really.
It doesn't look outward, it looks inward.
And I'd reached the point when I was working for the BBC and I was presenting sports programs that I would do all my preparation at home on the Isle of Wight here.
I would write the scripts and everything.
When there were scripts, most of it was ad lib.
And then I would go up on the day to present the program.
And I would have a taxi with the engine running outside of Television Centre in London when the closing titles were being played at the programme.
And I would be at Waterloo Station on a train home before the rest of the crew were in the BBC bar.
Because I really couldn't stand it anymore.
I enjoyed presenting programmes.
I did. But all that went with it and all the personalities and all the attitudes, no thanks.
So whether this happened to me or whether it didn't, I wouldn't have continued with that because I've really had enough of it.
But it really wasn't a choice.
I mean, when I look back at my life, and funnily enough, the first three chapters of The Trap are biographical.
To not only, you know, talk about how this came about for me, but also to explain where the information comes from that I've been communicating all these years.
And, you know, when I look at it, when I look at my life, it was moving towards where it went almost from the moment, well, definitely from the moment I was born.
And so many things happened to me pre-awakening in 1990.
Well, started the awakening, but always awakening rather than being awake.
Because there's so much to know.
But the things that happened to me before 1990...
When it became conscious that something was going on and I was being pushed in a certain direction, were all things that needed to happen to put me in a position where I could do what I'd done most efficiently and with most understanding.
And I didn't realize that until, well, just before my head blew off, I started to look back at my life and think, you know, I work hard and I'm very determined.
I don't give up.
But things that have happened to me, and the so-called lucky breaks that I've had just when I need them, and the amazing kind of way that I've been guided through the maze, that's not just me.
I concluded that around 1989.
That's not just me.
There's something else going on.
And I didn't know what it was.
And then after 1990, it started to unfold.
For instance, I got interested in environmental campaigning, you know, not, you know, human-caused climate change, not a great hoax, but pollution and the destruction of the environment.
I got interested in that in the 1980s.
And I worked with some campaigning groups and Then I thought, well, no, we've kind of got to get into the political arena and do it from there.
And I joined the Green Party.
It was called the Ecology Party before.
And I joined the Green Party and I contacted them.
And I said, I know you don't have a party on the Isle of Wight, but...
You know, do you have any contacts here at all?
And they said, oh, no, we have nothing on the other one.
Why don't you start a party, they said.
So I thought, well, okay, well, let's give it a try.
So I called some public meetings and we started a...
an outer white green party.
And then within a week or so, a couple of weeks maximum, we got a letter from...
People in Winchester, in Hampshire.
And they said, oh, congratulations.
Welcome to the southern region of the Green Party, right?
Which I'd never heard of.
And they said, we've got a meeting in two weeks in Winchester of the southern regional area Green Parties, right?
So would you like to send a representative?
So I went along and, you know, it was naval contemplating, really.
And at the end, the lady said, well, our representative on National Party Council is stepping down today, and we need a new representative.
Would anyone put their name forward?
And no one did.
It was absolute silence.
So I said, well, okay, well, I'll do it if you want.
And so they had a vote.
And two people voted against me, even though I was the only candidate.
And I didn't really know what it meant.
I said to the lady after I was now the regional representative on National Party Council, what does that mean?
And she said, well, you go to the National Party meetings.
And there was one about two weeks or so later near Regent's Park.
So I go to that.
And you know the weeks, the weeks are very few since I started the Green Party, right?
Joined it. And I go to this National Green Party meeting near Regent's Park, and they were naval contemplating at a higher level during the morning.
And then just before lunch, the guy running it said, we need some national speakers, as they call them in those days, for the party and the media.
Not that meant much, because the media, you know, didn't report the Green Party virtually at all, you know.
But so if people could put their nominations forward after lunch and we'll have a vote, right?
So I'm having my lunch and a guy comes up to me.
He said, you're on telly, aren't you?
I said, yeah. He said, you'd be confident in front of a camera, wouldn't you?
I said, well, I suppose so. He said, well, if I propose you, would you stand as a speaker for the Green Party?
I said, well, all right, then, yeah, all right, I'll do that.
And so after lunch, you got the chance to speak for five minutes to say what your attitude to it would be.
And they had a vote.
And I became a national speaker for the Green Party.
And I'd only been a member for weeks.
It was ridiculous. And then in the year that followed that, the Green Party had its two million votes in the European elections.
And suddenly I was a national politician for a short time before I realized the Green Party was just like every other party and was not a means to change.
It was a means to perpetuate what was already here and make it worse.
But what I thought at that time was, look, this is...
Because I describe in the book other things that happened in my life before I had my awakening.
I thought, this is ridiculous, mate.
This can't just be you that's making this happen.
And then I realized, like I say, that actually there was another force at work.
And that's been guiding me ever since this last 32 years to expose what's been going on.
Last question before we wrap up.
In my opinion, as a species, we should be so much more than we are today.
So my question to you, David, is separating a personal wanting or personal prayers you may have from our current reality.
Can you see a time when peace, honesty and common decency reign supreme?
Can you see a time where we return to a more calm and natural state?
You can look for solutions, or you can do the thing that really changes anything, and that's removing the cause of the problem.
And for me, you know, they talk about, oh, you can't change human nature.
But the question is, what is human nature?
What is the nature of human?
And, you know, I have this analogy that a ball in a tank of water, its natural state is floating on the top.
And the natural state of a human is expanded states of awareness.
That's what we're supposed to have.
We're supposed to be fully expanded consciousness, not oppressed, suppressed, oppressed consciousness.
So if you're going to put something in an unnatural state, like that ball in the tank of water, you have to push it to the bottom and you have to hold it there.
And They hold it there by bombarding us 24-7 with fake perceptions of reality through fake information, misinformation, ironically, that skews our sense of self, skews our behavior through skewing our perception.
And therefore, we don't really know the nature of human.
We know the nature of manipulated humans.
And my feeling, my instincts, if you like, are that left to their own devices, humans are lovely.
But that's the unmanipulated human.
That's the ball on the top of the tank in its natural state.
Humans are in an unnatural state.
And what we call awakening...
Is simply awakening from the program.
It's awakening from the suppression of our consciousness.
And as we awaken, our consciousness expands, and thus the impact of the suppression dilutes and dilutes and dilutes, and we become not only more enlightened people, we become very different people.
We become kinder people, nicer people, more loving people.
So I think the nature of the human, or not the human consciousness that's having an experience called human, Left to its own devices is lovely.
But it's not left to its own devices.
It's not left to be its natural state.
It's been manipulated into an unnatural state.
So if we can remove this suppression, this deceit, and that which is behind it, which is dramatically few people, and staggeringly few people, ultimately, Then we'll see the true nature of human, which we haven't seen except in some individuals throughout known human history, really, because this goes back a very long time.
And so like we started out, funnily enough, as we conclude, the answer to this nightmare, this gathering nightmare, is so simple.
We We understand that our true nature is being oppressed and suppressed, and we expand our awareness to the point where we have literally an open mind.
We have a blank sheet of paper, symbolically, and we say, nothing's going on this piece of paper, my perceptions, unless it earns its place.
I'm not accepting a truth just because some scientist says so.
Probably just repeating what he has to repeat or he doesn't have a job.
Or what some doctor says so.
They've been lying to us blatantly for two and a half years.
Or what some politician says or some government representative.
None of that is going to get on that paper unless it justifies itself by evidence.
And I'm not going to cooperate with authority just because it's authority.
They have to persuade me why I should cooperate with evidence.
Not orders, evidence.
And when you go through that process, authority can't produce.
There's still not a scientific paper on planet Earth to show that COVID exists.
that SARS-CoV-2, the alleged virus, exists Staggering, but true.
It's all assumption.
Authority says it must be true.
He's a doctor.
He must know. No, he's a clone of a system, and he will not be a doctor another day if he challenges that system and what it's telling him to tell everyone else.
And the COVID era has shown that very clearly as proper doctors and proper scientists are Who've pointed out it makes no sense have lost their jobs.
Nurses have lost their jobs.
People in all different areas have lost their jobs because they have spoken out.
And those that have not spoken out, they are the clones of the system.
Well, alleged doctors, not doctors in my definition.
Then that doctor is on television because he's going to tell you what the authorities want you to believe.
If he was a doctor telling you what he has shown evidentially to be the case, at odds with what authority wants you to believe, that doctor would not be on television.
And so you take control of your perceptions back.
I am going to believe what I... I've researched to be the truth, not what someone is telling me to believe without producing any evidence.
And then you say to yourself, okay, what's the effect of what I'm being told to do here?
Q Bono, who benefits...
Who benefits from me believing or doing what I'm being told to believe and do?
And almost every time, if not every time, when authority is telling you what to believe or do, it's for the benefit of authority gaining more power over your life.
So when you see that connection, If I do this, I'm giving more power to that which is telling me to do it, the COVID era, I rest my case, then you simply don't do it.
A relative handful cannot control 8 billion if the 8 billion will not cooperate with their own enslavement.
So I have spent 32 years now exposing this cult and exposing its agenda.
But Let's point the finger in their direction alone, because they've only been able to do it because the population has cooperated with what they want to do.
We, we, humanity, are the reason we got into this mess.
Not the cult.
All they've manipulated is into it, yes, but we've fallen for the manipulation, and it's the we that have created this.
And that's great news, because the we can bring an end to it.
That's at the top of the hour, David, and I really appreciate the time you have given us today.
I could have asked you so much more, but your time is definitely limited.
I'll add that when time allows, you'd consider maybe coming back onto the show.
That should be very welcome. Sure.
Before we wrap up, though, could you please tell my listeners where they can find you online, your books, blogs, videos, and any upcoming events that we should put on the fridge door?
Well, you can get me at davidike.com.
That's the main hub. I've got the book, The Trap.
It's just coming off the printers.
It's just been printed, so it's going to be out very shortly.
There's also our media platform, our unique media platform called Iconic, which is news shows every week where we talk to people the mainstream wouldn't talk to.
We cover issues the mainstream wouldn't talk to.
I do one myself. It goes out every Saturday morning.
And of course it's not just, you know, goes out and then disappears.
It's on the platform from the time it goes out.
My son Gareth does A great show called Right Now goes out on a Friday evening, talking to people that the mainstream won't touch with a barge pole.
Then there's, or we also have an iconic full-length original documentaries on all these different subjects.
I've got a whole series on Iconic called The Nature of Reality, looking at, you know, reality as it is rather than as we perceive it.
And I'm just about to make another film very shortly about the importance of the British Isles in all this.
And so, you know, there's many different ways.
And, you know, all my videos are on davidite.com.
You can see them.
I do a video every week, every Friday, on a topic or subject connected to all this.
You just keep going and you keep putting the information out.
What I've found as I sit in this little room where I do all my work, you keep putting it out there.
Suddenly, You see its effect.
You walk down the street or you're walking in some field somewhere away from everybody and suddenly people come up to you.
Hello, I watch your videos and all that stuff.
It's an indication that the number of people that do that now, and not just in this country either, is an indication of how this awakening is actually real.
I know people say I wish people were waking up quickly.
Not enough people are awake.
Okay, that's true, yes.
Because we're looking for a critical mass that brings the walls down.
But it's me they're talking to.
They should have been with me in 1990, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, and so on.
Right up to recent times.
When you were banging your head against a wall and seemingly going nowhere.
The number of people who are open to this information now is absolutely fantastic compared with what it was.
And people stop you in the street and you have a conversation and they're saying, I think this is happening and I think that's happening.
I think they're doing it because of this.
And I say, you're right.
That's exactly why they're doing it.
So people are getting more and more informed and streetwise.
So there's a lot of bad things going on, but there's a lot of good things going on too.
David Icke, thank you.
Thanks, mate. All the best.
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