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Feb. 25, 2022 - David Icke
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Right Now - Gareth Icke Talks To Author & Brother Of Justin Trudeau, Kyle Kemper
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This week on Right Now, Justin Trudeau's brother, Carl Kemper, tells us why he's publicly criticised Trudeau's treatment of the Canadian Freedom Convoy and his handling of the pandemic and invoking the Canadian Emergencies Act.
Katrina Hermes tells us about her life-changing reaction to the unmentionable.
And prison nurse Nigel Simpson tells us about standing up to vaccine mandates
and what life's been like behind bars over the last two years.
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MUSIC FADES Hello and welcome to Right Now.
Since three weeks to flatten the curve, it's been 704 days and we've pivoted to normal kids have heart attacks and go test yourself for AIDS. If we're following the science, why the hunger to get to the toddlers so badly?
And while we're at it, now the panic's over, why is Bill Gates using the word sadly?
Because some don't want it to end.
They scream, it's not over!
As the departing lover ties up their laces with their bags over their shoulder.
But what about my blue heart on Twitter and all these virtuous in my mentions?
Wear a mask, not for you or for me, but for attention.
I get my facts from the mainstream, see?
I like to inform myself.
In fact, I just learnt that being trampled by a police horse is actually good for your health.
I like to be led, and the young global leaders, they're my faves.
They really know how to empower and embolden all the slaves.
But as the narrative slips and crumbles, so then does the mask, because no tyranny can survive for long once its card has been marked.
But wait. Stop the presses.
Here come the Russians. They'll divert the focus off of blackface Hitler and his special brand of fascism and wokeness.
But now it's done. We're beyond the emperor's new clothes.
The emperor's whipped out his tackle and he shoved it up your nose.
But if it's Justin's, you'll be fine.
Clues in the name. First up tonight, families.
They're all complicated and of course they all disagree.
But what happens when your disagreements become public?
Well, over the last few weeks, one very prominent family row involving Justin himself has gone truly nuclear.
His younger brother, Kyle Kemper, has been openly critical about Trudeau's treatment of the Canadian Freedom Convoy
and his handling of the pandemic in general.
Unsurprisingly, his comments about his older brother have gone viral. He joins us now.
Kyle, thanks so much for coming on.
Justin seemed to sort of polarize opinion a bit.
What is it that made you go, do you know what, I need to talk out?
First of all, Gareth, it's a pleasure to be here on your show.
Kudos to you for all the great work you've been doing.
Yeah, you just want to dive right into Justin.
Alright, let's dive right into Justin and the situation.
Man, honestly, for Since 2001, since I started asking questions about 9-11, there was a divide.
I support Justin.
He was on his own little journey up the channels, swimming upstream on his channel or river.
And it wasn't mine.
And I kept asking questions and searching for truth.
And anytime I kind of presented to Justin, it was kind of met with deaf ears a little bit.
But in the last two years, I've just been like, you know, before that I was like, you know, kind of just on the sidelines and supporting him and wishing him well.
But in the last two years, and specifically like the last year, year and a half, like ever since they started just to kind of turn into a salesperson for the pharmaceutical industry, you know, I felt it really important to start speaking up about this and start looking at, you know, criticizing by creating and A real catalyst happened with this Freedom Convoy.
I mean, someone just asked for an interview.
I was like, okay, I'll do interviews.
I don't mind. I'm comfortable speaking.
And so we started talking about this situation in the world.
And I guess that interview with the Western Standard kind of got a lot of views and the message resonated.
And then the whole Freedom Trucker thing, which was just It's so incredible and such an amazing energy, kind of kicked into full gear.
And I support the people.
I support freedom. I support liberty.
And it seems like Justin is I'm reading a script and a lot of people are channeling all their energy at Justin.
I don't think that's totally fair either because he's part of the problem.
He's not the entire problem.
I'm sure you would agree, right?
Because I was going to ask, in terms of the young global leaders and all that stuff within the Canadian Parliament, there's a lot of members, a lot of members of Parliament that are linked to the World Economic Forum.
In terms of Justin, like you were saying, the last couple of years he's maybe changed a bit.
Do you think that's got something to do with it?
The fact that this whole young global leaders thing kind of gets its teeth into people and steers them on a different path?
Yeah. Well, I think in the last couple of years, like we've seen like, you know, the, you know, we only call them agents like activated, like hard on this path, but he's definitely been like, you know, on this, you know, young global leaders, um, global, like, you know, I not, or I am, we kind of like attitude.
Part of the weed charity.
It goes back a long time in terms of his The circles that he was rolling in and the quest for approval and also just doing your job.
I think from his position, just doing his job and really believing in it because you're a product of your environment oftentimes.
Him and I have not been hanging out in talking policy or geopolitics or technology or transformation.
He's been in this Westminster Broken system for a long time, and I just feel like we're using Morse code in the age of the internet with this government, and it's terrible.
The message doesn't represent the people whatsoever, so I've got to stand up because it's time for change.
Has the Freedom Convoy woken people up, do you think?
A lot of people that maybe weren't on the side of the truckers for the first few days have seen the reaction from the government and thought, well, this is...
Well, I think more and more people are just waking up all the time, right?
And I think this was another one of these moments that showcased a real divide between matrix reality and true reality of what's going on.
Yeah, I think the country is still really divided and there's a lot of healing and there's a lot of frustration out there, but definitely This great Canadian freedom convoy brought together Canadians like never before.
Hundreds of thousands of Canadians coming to Ottawa, a 17-day freedom festival.
The reality of it is it was like Burning Man in the streets of Ottawa.
They were so collaborative, they're so inclusive, they're sharing, they're gifting, they're working together to build, to create, to clean up the city.
Crime was down.
There's so many gifts handed out, so much love, and it was all rooted in this principle of civic responsibility.
I think a lot of people who have been asking serious questions have been wondering, what can we do?
Feeling voiceless and helpless and demoralized and disconnected.
And the Freedom Convoy, Created a rallying point and an opportunity for unity and human connection.
And so for 17 days, they partied and showed off, stood up for the True North Strong and Free in Ottawa.
And I think they did a fantastic job and it was a massive success.
At the very end, the club, if we akin it to being at a festival or a nightclub, The club was closing and some angry security guards came in and kicked everybody out.
And yeah, there was a couple like security guards and a couple of tactics that were really lame and deserve investigation.
And I think there's a much more conscious way that they could have all been approached.
But they also accomplished their job of getting all of that out of Ottawa and cleaning up for another day.
And to everybody who was part of it, let's not focus on that end part of it, the anger and the violence.
It was bad, but what happened over the 17 days was so good.
Return to all corners of Canada and people watching all around the world Draw inspiration from it and learn lessons and keep the spirit alive.
Tell the stories of what actually happened because there's just a huge divide between what the media is telling people and what It actually happened.
Of course. In terms of the Emergencies Act, which, if I'm correct, has never happened before, the freezing of bank accounts of anyone, not even that attended the Freedom Convoys, but even people that supported them on social media.
I remember seeing that and thinking, you know, with this Emergency Act and stuff, this doesn't feel like it comes from a position of strength from government.
It feels like it comes from a position of desperation.
What are your thoughts on that?
I mean, it feels like they're just pushing us.
It feels like we're just getting pushed and pushed and pushed.
And as they continue to push, the reaction, the effect is that we have to On the side of the people, inside freedom, they keep innovating.
And this Emergencies Act, I feel like this was something that they wanted to do no matter what.
And so they used this as an opportunity to bring it about.
It's totally unjustified, in my opinion.
And they renamed the War Measures Act to the Emergencies Act a couple of years ago.
So it doesn't seem so Startling.
And they forced it through underneath this hogwash Purpose or response to the structures, dancing, playing in bouncy castles and singing the national anthem and having crazy dance parties.
So it seems like that was the intention.
And now we're seeing it get passed through the House of Commons in what was a totally B.S. vote.
The people of Canada don't support this.
The House of Commons will probably see the Senate vote it through.
These institutions have lost integrity in my opinion.
They don't represent the will of the people.
They should be our highest level of the pyramid if we operate in a pyramid.
But they're just a lower level and a greater global pyramid that's I'm sure you and all your listeners are very well aware of.
Of course. I'm just thinking, obviously, Justin is your brother.
It must be really strange for your mum in this position.
Because you and Justin are coming from completely different sides of it.
What is the family dynamic like?
And what would you say to Justin if I suddenly revealed he was sat next to me?
What would you say to him?
Because he's your brother after all.
He is my brother after all.
I say ho'oponopono.
I'm sorry if what I've done has hurt you or you take it personally or it affects you or your ability to do your job.
Forgive me because I'm just doing what I feel is right.
I have children just like you have children and I want to make sure the world is a beautiful place for our children and not Some vision that was expressed by Orwell and Huxley and grandparents for children.
I'm really grateful to you, Justin.
I'm thankful on so many levels.
I'm thankful to you for even pushing it this far because you're pushing more people to become awake and to start Like, innovating and creating.
Like, you know, I wouldn't have written this book if it wasn't for you, like, tirelessly pushing.
You wouldn't have brought together the people of Canada in this great unification if it wasn't for, you know, your pushing.
You're kind of cast as the supervillain in this, but, you know, you like your role sometimes.
And then at the end of the day, know that I love you too.
And I really love you as a brother and as a fellow human and as a fellow heart.
And I hope that over time, everything that you've done, this personality that you are and that you're playing is going to serve to bring together people.
And I'm just going to do my best to Be honest and truthful and gentle and focus on creating.
Same to my mother. Mom, I'm doing this for you too.
I really believe in What Justin and what the media have been saying and doing for a long time.
We have differences of opinion and it's okay to have differences of opinion.
Just because Justin is my brother doesn't mean I have to agree with his bosses and the way that things work there.
I'm my own person.
I'm really grateful that I have a different last name, but I've been able to live a life where I've been able to go and learn and explore and hold In a way, that's my own. You can tell by the way you speak that you come from a place of love and heart.
I've got to say, most people that have some kind of feud or so-called feud or whatever, sibling rivalries and whatever, they don't tend to speak as lovingly as that.
I love that.
Has Justin said anything to you?
Or said anything about the fact that you spoke out?
Or is it just kind of not bothered?
No. Last year, last December, I had a big article that went on the front page saying I dissent.
And that was, I guess, just the editors branded me as an anti-vaxx entrepreneur, anti-vaxxer Bitcoin entrepreneur and critic of Justin.
And I think they did a pretty fair job.
Then they added a bunch of silly slants and odd perspectives, unfounded perspectives in the article.
But whatever, that's what the media does.
But ultimately, no response.
This is the challenge.
I don't feel like he wants to talk about this because one of the things is he can't really answer a lot of the questions that we have.
From my perspective, he's just kind of following the script and obeying the directives of others, even though he also wishes and seeks for it to be about him.
It's not about him.
This is about Canada.
This is about our children.
This is about freedom.
This is about our ability to protect our bodies, make our own decisions, travel freely, be healthy, and focus on our Collective survival and abundance as opposed to living in fear and this scarcity model and scarcity mindset that has been propagated by him and his crew and all the people before him that seek to dominate.
And to all those people, to the spider, to the pyramid, grateful to you guys, too, because all of this is pushing towards the dissolving of the pyramid into the awakening pool of consciousness, which will be the Aquarian modality.
The systems of yesteryears will not apply, and I know that you think you're a great reset.
Is the solution, but I don't think the Great Reset, I think it's the Great Awakening.
And I think there's a lot of, there's going to be some similarities within it.
But ultimately, the fascistic The kind of dictatorial, tyrannical, hierarchical nature of it is going to be replaced by a decentralized kind of peer-to-peer governance models and a shift from domination-driven structures into heart and decentralized abundance mentality.
We have all the tech.
Do you think that's something, because you mentioned it earlier in terms of thanking people for kind of pushing the spider as well, pushing it so far that people are awakening.
Do you feel that people that would maybe be considered to be the spider, or at least working for the spider, people like, say your brother, say Klaus Schwab or whatever, that these people will have an awakening as well?
And so it won't just be almost like an us and them, it will be they will maybe kind of awaken and come I hope so.
I feel like there's some accountability and justice required through this so that as we move into this, we start asking questions, but there's also going to need to be forgiveness.
You know, I think a lot of people within the pyramid, especially, you know, it's going to be lower levels that start waking up and dropping off.
And then ultimately, but at the end of the day, I really feel that, you know, when we can kind of start removing, sort of take Stopping ourselves from giving them this power by focusing so much attention on the decisions that happen in the Parliament and in the House of Commons and focusing on their ideal outcomes.
And if we start focusing on our ideal outcomes, we can focus forward and start solving solutions as opposed to getting caught up in these petty left-right Right, left, red, blue, blue, red, orange, pink, purple.
Instead of feeding the negativity, basically, feed good.
Yeah, that's what I was talking about to Alex Jones about.
Alex, he's been focusing so much on highlighting the nature of the beast and its plans and where it's going.
It's great that we're aware of it, but if we just focus all of our attention on that, We've got to be conscious of that, that we're giving that energy and that reality will likely take form if that's all we're ever talking about.
If we're out there saying, no, we don't want this, no, we don't want this, but we're not saying anything like, what do you want?
It's like, okay, great.
Yeah, the world is run by monsters.
What are you going to do about it?
I think it's really critically important that we don't just start talking about monsters all the time, because that just literally gives these guys more power.
And it's like, let's stop talking about them.
Recognize like, oh yeah, that's Wef.
No, no, no. Sorry.
If you want to make the case for that clearly and directly, go for it.
But hiding it and guising your subjugation of the people in a deceitful, chaotic manner is the antithesis of open, radical collaboration.
When you're actively deceiving people and using fear as a tool for control, I just don't feel that's going to last.
So again, let's focus on how can we build?
What kind of new models can we look at?
Does the Westminster model in Canada make sense anymore?
Or can we look at You know, the technology behind Bitcoin, behind cryptos, you know, the blockchain.
Look at DAOs, which are decentralized autonomous organizations, and how, you know, how there's large kind of online financial communities that are using this technology.
And they're basically, they're governance models, meaning people making decisions together, and they're using this, you know, Technical, code-based foundation structure of the DAO, which is basically a set of contracts, the way in which things work and decisions are made and that they're accountable and transparent.
And how can we just shift from viewing that system from a financial community point of view to the idea of why we have governments in the first place is to afford people a voice in societal decision-making.
And so let's look at the technology in the ways that we can enable people to vote and participate You know, in democracy, which has, you know, turned into a democracy.
Is that what your book's about, about that?
That is what my book's about.
I love the book's part. I love the dog, by the way, because I just keep almost feeling like I'm getting eye contact with the dog in the corner, which is amazing.
But yeah, so that's what you're focusing on with the book, Solutions.
So this isn't a dog.
This is the Doge. It is based on a dog.
That is the Shiba Inu.
This is the most famous internet meme of all time.
It is the cryptocurrency. It is the logo and the mascot of the cryptocurrency known as Dogecoin.
I'm also part of a group called the Decentralized Dance Party and we do a lot of really radical fun things.
We get people together dancing.
If everybody came together and was dancing like they were in Ottawa, we would have peace on earth and we could heal a lot of wounds and break down a lot of these fictitious divisions that exist between us.
So it's really important to have levity within it and to be able to be with my sweet Shiba Inu here.
Named the DOGE, is great.
DOGE, what does it stand for?
D-O-G-E, do only good every day, some people say.
Dogs, I think, have a very powerful, impactful role in humanity.
They provide unconditional love, and they give it unconditionally.
And DOG, spelled backwards, G-O-D. I think we can see some divinity within it.
And these specific eyes, I know, you feel like it's always looking at you.
I love it. I love it.
It is like the Mona Lisa of memes.
It is a very, very powerful Personality capture in time.
And then off the topic of the idea behind the book is, as a creative, I want to criticize by creating.
So it's like, let's look at new models.
And so, yeah, Canadao is an idea.
It's something I've been talking about for a long time.
I wrote a book a while ago called The Unified Wallet, Unlocking Digital Golden Age, exploring why we need to have self-custody wallets, meaning you're in control of your keys.
You're not trusting a bank or some third party or some agency to hold on to your identity and money.
I think this kind of fits into this, but now this is talking about how we can look at new governance models to create what's called liquid democracy.
And I don't have all the answers.
It's also like, it's not going to be this thick as it is in this image.
This is just a mock-up. But it's starting as a very thin, like as a very short ebook, a booklet, And it's like the first thing, it's just setting the stage.
It's just basically the introduction is the first book.
And I wanted to get it out immediately because it's so critical that the timing on all this, and we really need to look at these new models like right now, as Buckminster Fuller said, that you can't fix a system by fighting it.
The more we fight, we're not going to fix anything.
We need to build new models that make the existing model obsolete.
And that is like, you know, this is a proposition for it, for how we can create a structure that returns power to the people, that enables what's called a liquid democracy, which means like in a direct democracy, every person has the ability to vote on everything.
In a liquid democracy, you get the ability to vote, but you also get the ability to delegate your vote.
So I believe like, you know, in you, Gareth, I can...
Delegate my vote to you and then you can have your vote plus my vote and anybody else who votes.
And you carry that voting power on proposals that are submitted, which is basically like rules or legislation that we want to compare it to the traditional system.
People submit proposals, businesses submit proposals, and the people vote on it.
And if I delegate my vote to somebody else, then they have the power to cast that vote power.
And if I, after the fact, disagree with the way that you voted, I can instantly take action by repealing my vote from you and taking it back.
It creates inherent accountability and seamless accountability within the system versus right now in the way it works.
You elect somebody, then they have just free reign power, no accountability, no checks and balances for their actions.
They can campaign.
On these platitudes about what they will do, and then there's nothing holding them accountable for what they do do.
And then you get these...
In Canada, we had a vote on this Emergencies Act, and it was really clear that the NDP party, which holds power, to be honest, because Their seats make up enough power to work with the Liberals to get anything passed.
We're not even seeing any polls right now.
They're not even doing polls because I know it's gnarly what's going on.
So had that vote failed, it would have triggered an election.
And had an election been called, I'm pretty sure it would have meant a lot of NDP ministers, MPs would have lost their jobs and lost their paychecks and their staff losing their paychecks.
So they were really threatened with paychecks in that last vote.
And sometimes when it comes down to money versus morality, Money wins.
And I think that was one of the cases.
And it's just representative of this broken system.
Worst code. We're in the age of the year.
Let's do this, guys. Let's do this.
Same in the UK. Same in America.
Same in New Zealand. Same in Australia.
All these legacy government models are broken.
They've been corrupted. And they've become kind of tyrannical in their own ways.
So we need to look at doing things better.
And I feel this is kind of in line with what I heard your dad saying, too.
Governments are going to fall. It's like, you know what?
The governments are going to fall. Like their traditional existing, like what they look like, they're going to fall.
And, you know, this is a solution, albeit if this is a technical solution, like this involves technology.
But at the same time, it's like, are we really like, we can't turn off technology.
I don't think that's real.
We are entering a digital golden age right now and you can choose to participate in it or choose not to participate in it, but that's the way we're going.
And it can be extremely powerful.
And I also recognize this technology is like a razor blade knife edge.
It can be used for surveillance.
If we don't have proper ethics and guidance and protocols and privacy and safeguards in place, it can be used for...
This is a great tool for the spider, to be honest, if the spider doesn't dissolve.
But it feels like the spider is dissolving and it's going to dissolve.
And why not beat them at their own game?
Use that technology to provide solutions instead of complaining.
You're absolutely right. Absolutely right.
And I mean, think about all the you and your audience, the ideas, the innovation, the proposals, also the engagement.
When we're talking about voluntarism and the desire for people to be civically engaged, If I take in Canada, for example, the average liberal voter versus the average PPC voter, which is the People's Party of Canada, which is It got, I think, 5% to 8% of the vote, maybe more, who knows what the actual number was.
But they got a large number of votes and had so much energy and had so many dedicated people that really wanted to be involved and assist.
And they don't have one seat in the House of Commons.
They have zero voice at the end of the day because of the nature of the structure.
But again, their people are so engaged that part of democracy is, okay, Who wants to be engaged in these decisions?
Should probably be there. Those who don't want to be engaged, who want to just play golf or hockey or watch sports and do their jobs and do their passions and be just on their own path doing what they do, great.
But it's like those people are the ones that are being really sought after in this You know, infrequent, okay, every one year, two year, four years, we're going to have these election votes, these elections where you go out and there's so much energy and is dedicated to, you know, getting that sports fan or that, you know, elderly person to head down to the community center.
To check a single box on a ballot and leave there living in a democracy.
Yeah, that illusion of choice.
Exactly. But thank you so much for joining us, Carl.
And thanks for speaking out.
It's not easy speaking out in any situation, but obviously in a situation where it's family, then that's equally tough.
But thank you so much for joining us.
And I'll speak to you again, I hope, mate.
Indeed. Thank you so much, Gareth.
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