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Feb. 21, 2022 - David Icke
01:13:29
David Icke On The Kyle Kingsbury Podcast
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So, so
so so
You've spoken before about, you know, the problem-solution reaction,
and if you understand the endgame, the totalitarian tiptoe becomes pretty easy to spot.
With the relaxation of things in the UK in particular, do you feel like that's just a loosening before a tighter squeeze comes?
Well, the point is that this whole agenda of which the COVID hoax is part, a very significant part in the last two years, is global.
It's globally dictated.
That's why you've seen the COVID era that most of the world has just responded the same and believed the same narrative and done the same things.
So you can look at different countries and And where they are in the moment, but it's still a global agenda.
So where does this agenda want to be?
It wants to be where Italy is.
It wants to be where Austria is, just introducing mandatory fake vaccines.
Italy, which is incredibly extreme in what they've done to people that won't have the jab and how they've marginalised them and excluded them from society.
Australia, the Northern Territories of Australia and elsewhere.
You know, this is where they want it to be.
Like, France is infinitely more extreme currently than England.
So, of course, they are going to come back with other cards to play.
The problem they have in this country is that we've had really massive pushback.
The marches and rallies for freedom in London have been absolutely enormous.
I've been to most of them. And they also have in Johnson's party of government, not actually in the government itself, but what they call backbench MPs in the Conservative Party of Johnson, about a hundred of them.
I've been vehemently pushing back on the restrictions.
And what's come out in the last 24, 48 hours is that Johnson was on the brink of basically locking down England over Christmas and New Year.
Which is what Scotland and Wales did, which have different leaders in terms of these subjects, these restrictions.
But it was members of the Cabinet and the pushback from the backbench MPs that stopped him doing it.
And this is very credible because what happened was they were clearly preparing for a lockdown.
Omicron! Ah!
And all that stuff just came out at the right time.
And we have a chief medical officer in Britain, your version of Fauci.
And he is a guy called Chris Whitty.
He's a deeply dark and sinister man.
And he's been basically driving the restrictions and the fascism in England since it started two years ago.
And he was pushing for lockdowns over Christmas and New Year, and then Johnson suddenly decided he wasn't going to go with it.
Because, I mean, you've probably heard he's also in trouble with, or has been, with...
The revelations that during the time when the British public were locked down and told they couldn't see a granny, couldn't go and see, you know, couldn't be with loved ones when they died, that they were having rave up parties in number 10 Downing Street.
So his credibility, his ability to impose restrictions after that's come out has basically been deleted.
And so a lot of things have come together, the pushback, the MPs, the party gate, as they're calling it, to make it very difficult for him to go to the extremes of Austria and France and Germany, and, well, Germany too, yeah, but also Italy.
But that doesn't mean that...
They're just going to leave it.
But they have a problem in England, particularly in England, of selling this to the public now.
Because, you know, I watched the response when they announced the Omicron variant, variant, variant, variant, variant.
And enormous numbers of people were just shaking their heads and laughing that they were now going to try to frighten us into locking us down at Christmas again.
People started to see it.
You can only lie for so long before people with any modicum of intelligence realize that you're going to be lying to them.
And we are there in England.
So they will come again, but it's not going to be an easy play like it was in the spring of 2020.
Yeah, I love it.
I love it. I'll take the win where I can get it.
It's one of those things where I was like, I don't know if I want to count it as a win yet, but it certainly feels that way.
That's amazing. See, that's amazing.
See, one of the things I've been going on about incessantly since this started is Is where the power lies.
See, all the way through history, we've had the same dynamic of the few controlling the many.
All the way through every culture, every era, all of it.
Because the population is tricked, mesmerized, into believing that authority has power over them.
But authority only has the power that the people give to them, which they then recycle back in the form of what appears to be the power of authority.
But the fact is, ah, please!
The fact is, the people have the power because they have the numbers.
And, you know, what is happening in Canada as we speak is fantastic because it's an expression of that.
You know, oh yeah, we're in power, we're in control, yeah, we say what happens.
And then suddenly all these trucks arrive in Ottawa and they don't know what to do.
Because the real power is with the people, it's with the numbers.
And so this is starting to dawn on more people.
This is a nightmare for the elite.
Because they absolutely want people to believe authority has power.
Because once you break out of that mind trick of where the power lies, then it's over.
And so...
This is, I think, a pivotal time, a pivotal period in human history, not just in relation to COVID, but as I've said many times in the last two years, this is an opportunity to bring about societal change that breaks that dynamic between people and government, because that dynamic is this.
Government imposes, government imposes, uh orders and the people respond to that but in a true free society government which should be just making the the you know the roads work etc and and making society uh work in that way government should be responding to the people it shouldn't be the other way around so when people say well You know, we've got to start a new political party.
We've got to do this. We've got to do that.
We've got to get into politics. I don't think there's any need to do that.
Any new party gets squashed anyway.
The thing is to make the politics, the politicians respond to us.
And that's what the truckers are doing.
You know, instead of sitting out back in their homes and Responding to the fake vaccine mandates and, oh, we're going to lose our jobs and all that stuff.
They have done this and gone to Ottawa in those great numbers.
And now the government's got to respond to them.
The dynamics flipped. And that's what we need to do.
There's a video on the internet on YouTube somewhere.
I saw it a long, long time ago.
It's called The Tiny Dot, if people want to go and look at it.
The Tiny Dot is still there.
And basically what it looks at is the number of people that control America compared with the number of people in America.
It's hysterical. And when that penny drops, it's over.
Yeah, I love that. It's certainly going great.
I was unaware until about a week ago, or five days ago, what was going on in Canada.
It's something that's really inspiring and gives me good hope.
I watched Renegade, which I think is phenomenal, and I want to recommend everybody listening to this, on Gaia TV, which is a documentary about your life story.
And one of the things that really struck me was not only that it was uplifting, that was great, but also that...
The amount of knowledge that you have, and I first got a real taste of that at the end of, I think, your first interview of 2020 with Brian Rose, where in the last 20 minutes, you finished so strongly about the nature of consciousness and what God is and what we are and our relation with that.
And you could really see in the documentary, Renegade, how much spirit has been guiding you throughout this process, leading you to the right laws to look at, the right books to open.
I want to dive into that because I think it gives people...
A better understanding of who you are and how you see things.
And fundamentally, I put you up there with Eckhart Tolle or Ram Dass or any of the great spiritual teachers that have walked this plane as of late with your understanding of consciousness.
What is the nature of the game that we're in?
What is the nature of consciousness and what are we ultimately?
All right. Well, I'll come up for air, Chris.
You know, one of the very encouraging things for me has been to see, obviously, with the passage of events in the last two years, great numbers of people awakening to the fact the world's not run by the forces they thought were running it.
But so many I'm seeing have gone on to the next stage and they've said things like, it's a spiritual war, isn't it?
And, you know, I don't like using the word war and all that, but they're kind of going into this area where actually it all comes out of.
All of it. And I was interested the other day, I was watching an interview with Dr.
Carrie Madej, you know, the lady in America who's done a lot of great work looking at these vials and talking about what's in them.
And she's a Christian.
And she was talking about a Christianity and she was using her Christian language, beliefs like Jesus and stuff.
And I was watching her and I thought, you know, if you take away the biblical kind of tone What she was saying is what I'm saying.
They say that the British and the Americans are divided by the same language.
Language does divide us in terms of religions and non-religious spirituality.
In the sense that we get divided by the labels and the terms and the characters, but actually you get it down to basics and it's the same story.
What's fascinated me over the decades is to see how much It's the same.
How much is agreed?
And that's hidden by what appears to not be agreed.
And that's usually down to language and characters and what have you.
So what I try to do all the time is get down to the very foundation of where things are coming from.
So we can get lost in the complexity.
The world looks very complex.
It appears to be almost unimaginably complex and impossible to understand and follow.
But what you're looking at when you do that is you're looking at the way things play out.
I try to always look at where they play out from.
And it doesn't matter if you are black, white, Jewish, Chinese, whatever.
It doesn't matter if you're some extraterrestrial race.
It doesn't matter about any of that in the sense that your behavior comes from your consciousness.
Your perceptions come from your state of consciousness.
And therefore, everything is perception, consciousness perception playing out.
And from perception comes behavior.
We behave as we do because we perceive as we do.
And the collective behavior of the human race we call human society.
Human society is as it is because of human behavior, which comes from human perception, which is why this global cult, as I call it, its stadium, its absolute first and last target is human perception.
Because if they can get that, they'll get your behavior.
And if they get your behavior collectively, they'll get human society.
What's clear when you...
Look at religions of various kinds and you look at the non-religious spirituality and you look at the ancient tales of native societies and the accounts and everything.
There is such a common theme.
It's almost laughable it's so common.
They just use different names.
So one of the great common themes is that there is a negative force Seeking to impact negatively and manipulate and control human society from the hidden.
Not something we can see.
Of course, we see the way it plays out.
We see the Gateses and the Fauci's and the Klaus Schwab's, but we don't see it because we can't see consciousness.
We can only see with our five senses the way consciousness expresses itself through form in terms of behavior.
So you look at Christianity, and they talk about the devil, Satan, and the demons.
You look at the Gnostic belief system, and they talk about their devil is Yaldabaoth, which they say is an energetic form.
And they talk about the archons, which are the Gnostic demons.
Archons being a Greek word meaning rulers.
You look at Islam, they talk about the djinn who manipulate human society from the hidden.
And I've talked to different people, like Aboriginal people in Australia, because I've travelled a hell of a lot before the COVID era.
Unbelievable, man, actually.
And you see this recurring theme.
In America, Native Americans have various names for this same force.
And the Cree tribe, which is the name I like to use, which is the Cree tribal people in Canada and across the border into America, They use the term for this force, wetiko, which they describe as a mind virus.
Very good description. I was fascinated to see that, read that over the last 18 months, because I've been talking about this mind virus.
I actually called it that way back in my books.
So these common themes are fantastic.
And what this is, is a negative force.
And it takes the form actually of an inversion.
It's an inversion of love.
If you look at the word evil, it's live written backwards.
It's an inversion of life.
And that's why when you look at blatant expressions of, I'll call it Wotiko, like Satanism, everything's an inversion.
That's why they use inverted symbols.
That's why you have the inverted pentagram, the inverted cross.
Everything's an inversion.
And then you look at human society as an expression of Wotiko, and it's an inversion.
Everything's upside down. I mean, we've seen a fantastic upside-down example in the last two years with the medical profession and the medicine hierarchy that's supposed to protect health destroying it.
Everything's an inversion. And so what is this Wotika?
Well, it's a very inverted, distorted state of consciousness, and it operates because of its inversion, distortion, and It operates in a low frequency, because every time we think, every time we feel emotion, we're generating frequencies.
Our perceptions are actually a frequency field, the sum total of our thoughts, attitudes, and emotional state.
And this fatigue goes no different.
And so you are looking at this low frequency frequency, Consciousness.
And what it's trying to do, through its various forms, including expressions in form like this global cult, your Gateses and your Swabs and your Vouchers and all the rest of it, is to draw human consciousness into this frequency.
So it can attach, it can possess, and it can perceptually influence.
And what's been clear to me as I've studied this is that what we call fear is this wotiko.
I mean, I talked to, you know, people like Kredo Moshwa, the Zulu shaman, who talks about this force actually bringing fear into the world.
That there wasn't fear before, but it brought this fear in because it is fear.
And it feeds off the fear, the anxiety, the low vibrational emotional states, the depression of humans.
Because if you're going to feed off an energetic source, that has to be within the frequency band that you are operating in.
Otherwise, like two radio stations, never the twain shall meet.
So the idea is to pull humanity in these low-frequency states.
So if you look at society and the way this culture structured it, it, of course, goes back a long way.
It's all about putting people in those low vibrational states.
The last thing they want is joy, love, and expanded awareness.
That's the last thing they want. That's their worst nightmare.
And what I think you're seeing, I would say you're seeing in this COVID era as things have unfolded, is blatantly in your face, who is influenced by Wetiko and who isn't?
And this is this so-called spiritual war that people talk about.
It's a tussle of states of consciousness, one that is high vibrational and one that is low vibrational, seeking to bring the high vibrational into low vibrational states.
So on one side, you've got people who have so conceded their right to think, classic Wotiko, that they just do what authority tells them.
They don't question the jab.
They don't question what's in it.
They don't question the effect.
They don't question the effect of masks on health.
They just do what they're told.
They believe what they're told.
They have no perceptual filter through which they can process information into a unique thought or a unique view.
And then you've got another group, also with Seco Influence, Less extreme than the one I've just talked about, because it can see other levels of this to the point where, for instance, it don't really want to have these jabs, and it don't really want to wear these face diapers, but it does it anyway because it fears not doing it.
And whenever I mention the word fear, that's the influence of Wotika.
So these two groups, the unquestioning yes sir, no sir, and that which doesn't want to do it but does it because it fears not doing it, these are the people that have conceded to the global tyranny of the last two years and have conceded to tyrannies going right back into history.
These two groups are the reason for every tyranny in history.
Because tyrannies are not brought in by the majority.
They're brought in by a few people to which these two groups, these two perceptual groups, concede themselves to the tyranny.
They acquiesce to the tyranny.
Now, there's a third group, and one, my God, it's coming.
We're getting there. That is not Massively influenced by Wotika.
And they're in a much more high-frequency state because they've opened their mind from the five-sense prison cell and allowed other more expanded levels of their awareness, consciousness, into this space.
Persexual process. And they're the ones, when you get into those higher frequency states, that develop the bulwark to all tyranny, which is self-respect.
It's self-respect that says, I don't care how you try to intimidate me, I'm not doing stupid things and being told to do them by stupid people just because you tell me.
If you want me to do something, authority, then you give me the evidence and you give me the background, you persuade me that what you want me to do is valid and the right thing to do.
If you can't do that because you can't produce the evidence, and of course they haven't, Then I'm not doing it.
And they're the ones that say, through their self-respect, I'm not cooperating with my own enslavement.
They're the ones that have brought down every tyranny in history, the ones that won't have it.
And so we are...
I was doing an interview last night.
It was actually a question and answer with a lot of people around the world.
And some of them are in Canada.
And they had a truck driver on who was part of the convoy, and he was saying, or talking, and so was someone else actually from Canada who was in Ottawa, about the fantastic atmosphere among the truckers and the people supporting the truckers.
The love, the joy, the mutual support, this high-energy state And that it was just an amazing thing to feel, they said.
And I sat there knowing exactly what they were talking about, because these big rallies and marches in London, I was the one last weekend, the latest one, which is fantastic.
You have the same thing.
You know, years and years ago, I would go on marches or protests or whatever against wars and what have you.
But it weren't the same.
No, no. It was not the same as this.
What is happening now, as we're seeing in these various expressions like the truckers and the London marches and others, there is a new energy, there is a new consciousness emerging.
That is very different to what we've seen before.
And this is developing, and I hope it goes on developing, not just into pushback against the COVID fascism, but bringing about absolute societal change by changing the dynamic between authority and people.
Because if the people won't have it, authority can't do it.
Simple as that. If enough of the people won't have it.
And once you go into these more expanded states of consciousness, anyone can do it.
You just open your mind and let it in.
Then... You're not going to have it.
You're not going to have these impositions upon you.
You're not going to cooperate with your own enslavement because your self-respect won't allow it.
So there are some amazing things going on.
And I do absolutely see these two expressions of these two states of awareness, love and joy and expansion and realizing we're all points of attention in the same consciousness.
And all the human labels are just fault lines of potential division when they don't have to be.
And this other energy, which is seeking to manipulate, to suppress, to oppress and to censor and to silence.
I had Paul Levy on the podcast.
He wrote a book called Dispelling Wetiko in 2018.
It's fantastic. Fantastic.
So this is super resonant with me.
I think I don't want to butcher the title because it was a few years ago when I read it, or a couple years back.
You wrote a book, All There Is Is Love.
Is that correct? Infinite Love Is The Only Truth.
Infinite Love Is The Only Truth.
Yes, yes. Speak to your experiences that have brought you there.
I know you've done ayahuasca.
I have a long history with plant medicines.
My podcast has really promoted that as a doorway to higher levels of consciousness when done in the right container.
But that seems to be an access point amongst others for alternate states of consciousness.
You know, holotropic breathwork from Stanislav Grav, the original vision quest, no food, no water for four days in nature.
These things always seem to put us in a place where Even if the hardest skeptic will be cracked wide open and they can finally see deeper levels of awareness that had always been there but they weren't purvy to.
Yeah, you see, one of the things I've been consistently talking about all these decades is the bottom line of this conspiracy, the bottom line of Wotiko.
And that is to separate five sense body mind, as I'll call it, From expanded states of awareness.
Because it can't manipulate expanded states of awareness, not least because they are not in its frequency band.
They need to, or it needs to, through all its different expressions, it needs to disconnect the influence of expanded states of awareness on five sense body-mind.
And if you look at how the five senses decode reality, they see everything is apart from everything else.
There's no unity. Everything's separate.
Because it can only visually decode a particular band of frequency, visible light, which overwhelmingly relates to what we call form.
So if I look around, I see form, and I see empty space between it.
So to the five senses, everything's apart from everything else.
And if you only get locked away in the five-sentence prison cell, then you are a piece of cake.
To divide and rule with other people that see the world in the same way.
So you have the divisions on race and religion and income bracket and all these things, which are designed to set the target population at war with itself so that they don't look up and see that the same hands are controlling the strings to all of them.
We're too busy fighting each other and being divided among each other to see actually that we have a common, if you like, enemy that is running the show and is running this side and that side and all in between.
So this whole Five Sense focus is the very bottom line.
Because if you could go deeper into the field, you would realize that actually there is no empty space.
Everything's filled with consciousness, energy, possibility, potential.
We're swimming like fish in the ocean in this sea of energy, the quantum field of possibility, probability.
And This is what connects us.
Everything is connected.
When people say everything is one, what does that mean?
It means we're all part of the same field of consciousness.
We're just different points of attention within it.
And so if you reach that point of understanding that we're all one and that whatever body we may be experiencing through, it's just a brief human experience, And not the I, which is the consciousness having the experience, then your ability to divide and rule for a start is gone.
And also your ability to deceive.
Because the whole idea of this, I'll call it Watiko, is to focus attention and perception in virtual totality in the five senses and not be influenced by expanded states of consciousness.
And then once you've isolated body-mind, you then program it through the control of information with the perception that you want it to have.
Mostly the basic one is, I'm little me, I have no power, what can I do?
And then you're a doctor to manipulate.
So if you look at a human life, from the time you're born all the way through to the time you leave here, the basic information you receive Whether it's from science or medicine or education as passes for it, is that it's all focused basically on the five senses.
The five sense world, the perceptions of the five sense world, are basically the foundation of virtually all the information that we get.
When I started becoming aware of this 32 years ago now, my first question was, why isn't this stuff taught in the schools?
Why aren't there television programs galore, documentaries exploring this?
And then later, of course, you understand why.
Because that awareness of reality and the nature of the true I would set us free.
And that's the last thing that we need.
So you've got...
Two worlds within one.
One is the world of the cult and the secret societies, and they're secret because they're keeping secrets from the population.
One of the secrets is where the world's being taken, so everything seems random, daily events seem random to the population when actually they know here that they're totally coordinated.
But the other thing crucial is they're hoarding the nature of reality and how we interact with it and how our perceptions become our experience reality.
And so they keep that from the people because they want the people to believe that life is random.
Life is random events and random happenings during the day and that everything is good luck or bad luck and all that stuff.
So we don't realize that we are actually creating the good luck and the bad luck and we're creating our experience through our perception.
They don't want us to know that, but they know that.
And therefore, they know, like I said earlier, that if they can control our perception, they control our experience, because they know that one becomes the other.
How does it do that? Well, Like I say, every time we think, every time we feel emotion, we're generating frequencies.
And the subtotal of those frequencies become a perceptual field.
They become our energetic field.
And this energetic field of ours is interacting.
This is the level in which we're interacting with the field of possibility and probability.
So the more expanded our field, the more expanded our perception, the more expanded our self-identity, The more of this field of possibility and probability we're accessing and can manifest into an experience.
Whereas if you go the other way into the five-cents prison cell, which is where they want us, That creates a very small perceptual field.
Why? Because your sense of self is small and limited, and thus your perceptual field becomes limited.
If you think you're little me, you're not going to have an expanded field of awareness.
Not because you can't, but because your perceptions prevent you.
So they want us in this five-sense prison cell with this very, very narrow, small band of perceptual field.
And we'll interact with possibility and probability of the field in that frequency band and in that perceptual field.
And thus, we will interact with the field of possibility and probability on that level.
We will manifest an experience that matches the perception.
So little me perception becomes little me life.
And what the awakening is, and we're seeing it more and more.
God, have I seen this unfold in the last 32 years?
It's been especially more and more, which we've got closer to the present moment.
Amazing, fantastic.
It gives me such joy. As that happens, as people awaken, what are they awakening from?
They're actually awakening from the five-cents prison cell.
That's what they're awakening from. And as they expand their awareness and tap into more and more of this possibility-probability field, suddenly their life changes.
They notice synchronicity in their life.
Suddenly bits of luck turn up just at the right time.
Suddenly it's like, fancy seeing you here.
What's the chances of that?
Oh, and that's amazing.
I mean, a statistical chance, tell me, of that happening.
Why? Because as people expand their consciousness further and further into the field, the interaction with possibility and probabilities expands also, and therefore what you can manifest expands, becomes more and more detailed.
And I have this phrase, start living life and stop life living you.
When you take your perceptions from external sources of programming, Life is living you through this process of perception becomes experienced reality.
You're not living your life.
Whoever controls your perceptions is living your life and dictating your life.
But when you start to come to your own perceptual state, you don't just take what someone else says and believe it.
You come to your own unique conclusions.
You start living life because life then starts responding to you instead of you responding to life.
And this is the shift that That is going to bring this nonsense down.
And it's the shift that this cult is desperate, desperate to stop because its control is gone.
So once we understand what we perceive, what we believe we perceive, what we perceive we experience, then we suddenly realize we've been in control of our life all along.
We've just not realized it.
But if you change your perception, you will change your life experience.
So, you know, we're having a nice chat here, but with different perceptions, we could be having a big bloody row now about something.
And the only difference between one and the other is the perceptions of the people involved.
Everything is perception, and this cult knows that.
And we can take the control of them back.
And this is why, as I said earlier, this shift in perceptual understanding of where the real power lies with the numbers in the people, not the few in the authority, that perceptual shift can change everything.
Speak about, you know, J.P. Sears is a good buddy of mine that lives here in Austin, and he does some great comedy skits that are quite revealing of the government, the deep state, the cult, whatever you want to call that.
And one of the things that he laughingly says, it's like they're playing cards with their hands face up.
Bill Gates wrote a book.
Klaus Schwab has a book, COVID-19 and the Great Reset.
They even have promotional videos that everyone that's followed this podcast and follow you is well aware of.
You'll loan nothing and you'll rent everything and you'll be happy and it shows some drone delivering packages to your apartment.
And then we've got Zuckerberg and the metaverse.
Which, you know, I had a vision back in the day on psilocybin mushrooms of all the video games that I used to play and how I was playing a game within the game and how the game itself that was within the game was limited.
It was not the game. And that ended my video game addiction like that.
And I look at, you know, video game on a TV screen versus haptic feedback suits, ready player one, what that end game looks like where everything you do is online.
Everything is with an avatar and you got to buy the NFT to get the avatar.
That future seems to be one in which we're locked into, for those that choose it, the five cents reality.
Sure. Exactly.
That's exactly what's going on.
We live in this manipulated world, this manipulated reality.
And, you know, I've written at length that I think this reality is actually a trap.
I think it's a form of virtual reality simulation.
But what they're doing now, and that simulation is to so bewilder our perception that we lose understanding of who we are.
It's all part of the same thing.
What we're seeing with the metaverse and augmented reality and the technological virtual reality is that new layers are being put on to the illusion, to the fantasy world, to further, further and further lock us away From the true I, uh, consciousness, uh, beyond the manipulation.
And there's many, many aspects of this going on at the same time.
So you've got your metaverse and your cyberspace level of that, uh, which is, um, this, this body is a, you could call it an avatar for consciousness to experience this reality.
So now with the metaverse, the avatar has got an avatar.
How long before the avatar's got an avatar's got an avatar?
And so on. It's pulling people further and further away in their perception of self and reality away from prime reality.
And at the same time, if you look at it, This woke mentality is subdividing the previous labels of a human life.
So they're going into greater and greater myopia of self-identity.
And self-identity is everything.
Self-identity. If you self-identify only with the labels of a human life, then you're self-identifying with limitation of I can't.
You're self-identifying with the five senses alone because the five sense world is the world of the labels.
But what they're now doing, in the same way of the metaverse, the layers, in the same way, they are subdividing the previous labels into smaller and smaller self-identities.
So this list of letters gets longer and longer and longer, where people are defining the I with even their sexual preference.
Now, a sexual preference is an experience.
It's a choice to have that experience.
It's not you.
It's not the I. It's not the eternal I. The I is the consciousness having the experience.
It's not the label, which at the end of a human experience will go with the body.
It's a brief human experience.
And the more that you can make that myopic, you can get people self-identifying with the fine detail, it just staggers me, of sexual preference.
The further away you are drawing people, as with the metaverse and all these other virtual reality technologies, from the infinite eye.
And that's what this wateko has to do to survive.
Because this is about its survival as well.
It's feeding off our energy.
We are its energy source.
You know, when the Morpheus character in The Matrix held the battery up and said the machines have turned humans into one of these, that was a profound truth, symbolically, of what's going on.
So, yeah, these metaverses and stuff like that are all part of this process.
But, you know, it's...
It's also, you mentioned a few minutes ago about basically they're telling us what they plan with their books and their videos and stuff.
But they have to.
I said this years ago, there's going to come a time When they can't operate under the radar anymore, because if they're going to impose on society what they want, that society must become visible to the population.
It must become part of the population's experience in the realm of the seen and the experienced.
They can't hide it anymore.
I mean, for a long, long time, you can be under the radar and you're manipulating and you're changing it subtly and it's moving on and the population think it's all random and not connected.
But there's a point where you have to break the surface where you can see it.
Otherwise, society is not going to change as you want it.
So they've now moved.
I saw this happen when Kurzweil, Ray Kurzweil, the Google executive, so-called futurist, started talking about the fact that by 2030, the human brain would be connected to artificial intelligence, and artificial intelligence would do more and more of human thinking until human thinking, as we know it, was negligible.
He actually came out with that. And he said, this will turn us into gods and all that stuff.
And I thought, you're starting to sell this now.
You're not trying to hide it anymore.
You're trying to sell it. So what they've done, more and more will see this, if they've gone from hiding it to selling it, from hiding it to the sales pitch, that it's a good thing that this happens.
So, oh, you won't own anything, but you'll be happy.
You want to be happy, don't you? You'll be happy.
And so we're seeing the sales pitch now.
And it's vital that, and it is happening, despite the censorship, that people have the information to see that the sales pitch, like so many, is a corrupt door-to-door salesman trying to sell you a tyranny and a nightmare.
I'm happy you brought up Ray Kurzweil.
I had a question for you that was based on a journey I had last year, one of the very few that I had.
I found it hard, either through opening up everything, the collective consciousness, but they've all been challenging journeys in the last two years.
So I had a journey with psilocybin, and it actually allowed me to oscillate between the I-consciousness that is love And what would amount to the endgame of Kurzweil, the transfer of human consciousness into a machine.
And knowing that when we are the I consciousness, we are eternal.
We are infinite. We're already immortal.
We just changed the avatar.
The opposite of that, when we were to keep one avatar without returning home, that would be eternal damnation.
And that's not something I vibed with.
You know, like growing up, going to church, I was like, that sounds like complete nonsense.
And then I got to live it.
I got to oscillate back and forth and really feel into that.
That would be the ultimate forgetting of the ultimate I that we are and the identification with something that who knows what the fuck that would morph into.
Yeah. Also, you know, this wetiko doesn't have creativity.
Because it's not connected to the source in the way that source-connected consciousness is, it doesn't have the ability to tap into that creative force, what the Gnostics used to call, in translation, intentionality.
And they said that these archons, this Yaldir Bale, their version of The Devil and Demons, couldn't create.
It could mimic. It could, like, you know, the old Hong Kong mimicking of technology and selling it as...
To people in a counterfeit state, they can do that.
In fact, one of the names for Yolda Beoth, according to the Gnostics, was the counterfeit spirit.
And Yolda Beoth, Witiko, whatever.
And so they're feeding off human creativity also.
And if you look at the Silicon Valley corporations, The creativity is not coming from Zuckerberg.
It's not coming from the people that are fronting it up.
It's not coming from the cult.
The creativity is coming from humans overwhelmingly.
And if you look at the banking system, this is a wonderful example of what I'm talking about.
Banks don't create anything except fresh air money that has never, does not, and will never exist called credit.
And what they're doing with that money is feeding to acquire more off the creativity of the people.
It's the creativity of the people that's running the businesses, that's coming up with the ideas.
But to turn those ideas into reality, to make those businesses happen, they have to, because of the way the structure of the system is set up, they have to go to the banking system to borrow money that has, never does not, and will never exist, called credit, to do that.
So the banking system is one gigantic global vampire that Of human creativity.
And so that's another reason they are terrified of losing control of humans and of humans' awakening to their plight and to awakening to the fact that they have the power and not authority, Wetiko.
See, anything that is in a low vibrational state like Wetiko, anything that wishes to harm, wishes to oppress, wishes to impose, It's not a state of consciousness with power.
It's a state of consciousness that is in a state of weakness.
So you look at all this censorship that goes on by the Silicon Valley corporations, the media and so on.
Censorship is not an expression of power.
It's an expression of weakness.
Because if we had an open debate with their information and our information, it would be over for them.
So censorship...
It's a state of weakness because you know you can't win your argument.
You know that in a free-flowing state of information, you cannot persuade the people that you're right and that the way you want the world to change is the way to do it.
can't do it. So the only way you can do it, this is why there's this mass censorship in the COVID
era of the COVID hoax, the only way you can do it is to stop it your narrative being dismantled
by censoring that which would dismantle it. So that's an expression of the weakness of this
consciousness and you know if you look at the again the dynamic between this cult and the human
population it's actually all founded, the whole thing's founded not on the power of the cult,
no no, on the ignorance of the population.
That's where it is. Because when humans awaken to their two-eyed, third-eyed state of awakening, it's over.
It's over for this long.
And so what they have to do, and it's very appropriate that their symbol, one of their main symbols is the all-seeing eye.
A single freaking eye.
Because that's kind of symbolic of its state of awareness.
And it's the one-eyed man.
And it's a classic kind of example of that phrase, in the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
In the kingdom of the human blind, the all-seeing eye is king.
But they have to keep humans in a smaller box of awareness and knowledge than they're in.
That's where the secret societies come in, making sure that happens.
And so this awakening...
It is the worst nightmare of this cult because it will bring the whole bloody house down.
The whole foundation of human control through the ages has been making sure they don't awaken.
So it's a fantastic time.
It really is to be here and experiencing it and to watching it unfold.
Many challenges to come, but once this gains momentum, this awakening from which everything else comes, then this house of cards is coming down.
I love it. I don't want to keep you past an hour, but I do want to ask you one question briefly before we go.
Event 201 chronicled events that transpired months later.
It was well detailed in Plandemic Indoctrination, and of course, it's well laid out.
We've had Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum almost perform the same thing for the effects of a market crash.
What do you think is going to transpire with that?
Do you think the grid goes down?
Do you think the banking systems are all hacked?
How does that work out? Well, I think any of the above, really.
It's very clear that, see, the way they work, if you look back through history, look back through the 20th century and the 21st, is they're in a constant state of what is called creative destruction.
If you want to ultimately lead the world into the status quo that you want, this Great Reset status quo, which is basically China made global, and China and then some made global, Then you've got to keep continuing in a sequence of destroying status quo so you can build another one which is closer to the one that you're heading for.
So if you look at the First World War, that was creative destruction.
I mean, I've gone into it in detail in my books.
First World War, it was totally bloody manipulated, as was Second World War.
And so the world after the First World War, the status quo was completely different.
Whole new countries were drawn, lines in the sand were drawn, and the whole thing started, they changed.
And then they had very soon afterwards, Second World War, and that changed that status quo.
And you had the emergence of the Bretton Woods Agreement, the World Bank, the IMF, and all these centralized, the United Nations, this whole centralized, global centralization of power network.
And, of course, a wonderful...
Example of creative destruction is the COVID era.
People look back to 2019, the last months of 2019, look at the world now.
It's actually, funnily enough, it's nothing like it was.
So... They're doing this all the time.
Now, what they want is a completely different financial system based on one single world currency, digital money, which of course they would be able to completely control.
And to do that, they've got to go in for creative destruction.
They've got to destroy what's there now.
And they've started it because, you know, this...
This Great Reset is actually for, as we've been saying all these years, a global dictatorship based on a world government, World Central Bank, World Army, world currency, etc.
And so they want the end of countries.
So this COVID period has not only been about...
Imposing the fascism on the population.
It's been about destroying nations, destroying countries.
So if you look at America...
I mean, I had to read this twice and then check it again.
When I read that 80% of the dollars in circulation have been put into circulation the last two years, I mean, that's extraordinary.
And so they have put these countries...
Spending this fake money in the name of COVID in enormous amounts of unrepayable debt.
They have, because of this infusion of money into the system, started to generate increasingly enormous inflation, just another fancy word for saying that prices are going through the bloody roof and people can't afford to live.
They have given China basically control over vast amounts of production and therefore the supply chain around the world of lots of essential things, lots of non-essential things as well.
And so China can control the supply chain.
It's very clear from seeing interviews with people in Like container ports, who've gone public, who say, look, we're being told not to pass these goods under.
Hold them. So much of this supply chain is obviously manufactured.
And what's that doing?
That's driving prices up on the basis of supply and demand.
So what we're seeing is this move towards destroying the current financial system.
And if you read some of their documents over the years, The plan is to create absolute mayhem, financial mayhem, societal mayhem, and to encourage people to focus their anger and their hostility upon the government of the country for doing this, and not see That there is this cult level in all its forms that is actually orchestrating the whole bloody thing.
They want everybody to focus on the country, the country's government.
And In that devastation, in that financial devastation, this cult in its various forms, not least the banking system, the IMF, all these institutions, they want to come forward as the saviour.
It's in their documents. They want to come forward as the saviour and say, you know, things have got so bad and it's terrible and, you know, we can sort this out, but things have got to change.
And then in comes your great reset.
This whole thing about you will own nothing but be happy is very much connected to this devastation financially and this cult coming forward in its various disguises and saying, we'll sort it out.
We'll forgive the debt.
You'll be fine. But all your possessions have to be given over.
All your property, everything has to be given over.
And then we'll sort this out.
And people will end up with a guaranteed income that's trialing this now in some American cities, I understand, and other cities around the world.
And the basic income will be basically a pittance.
And with everything else basically trashed, apart from the cult corporations, people will find it very difficult to earn a living outside of them.
The guaranteed income. And the guaranteed income will only be given if you do what you're told.
We've had a precursor of this in Australia, where the government, a few years ago now, introduced this process, this policy, that if you're on state benefits and you don't have your child vaccinated according to the government schedule, then you lose benefits.
And what the whole thing, again, if you go back to China, The China social credit system, you get credits if you do what the EU government wants and you have them taken away.
If you don't, you get excluded from society, basically, if you lose enough credits.
That's what's being played out in the West and the rest of the world now.
And all that we're talking about here with the financial transformation they want is all part of that.
To create a state of mass dependency upon the few, So that the few control everyone else by that dependency.
And so, of course, this crashing of the current financial system, which has served them well, but they want to go on to a new level now, is pretty much a certainty at some point, I would say.
You've mentioned in the past peaceful non-compliance and building community with those that are around you as two pretty necessary requirements to make it going forward as humans.
You offered that as the third, you know, option three of the group of humans that are here that aren't saying yes and that...
Really are taking a stand for their personal freedom and sovereignty.
Is there anything else you want to add to that?
You know, anything that you've learned over the last two years that you think would be really helpful for people to know going forward as we start to see other things and systems start to break and crumble around us?
Well, yeah. Well, there's two things really.
One, it's vital to have the pre-knowledge of what is planned.
Because we're at a point now where they have such control over a digital financial system that they can crash it.
And it's very difficult to stop the crash because they control the system.
So having that pre-warning is to start to rapidly look at how we would respond to that in terms of Of living, of surviving, of living a life without getting caught in the trap of, we'll bail you out, but...
And so what I'm seeing is that these networks of open-hearted, open-minded people, the kind of people that are in the truck convoy, the kind of people that are in the London marches and so on, they are starting to form these networks of mutual support.
We need to do that because This is almost certainly coming because they can do it and they want it to happen.
So it's, you know, it's very difficult to see that it won't happen at some point.
But yeah, I think that's very important that people start to prepare for this and look at how we can mutually support each other.
And that means, of course, if you live in a city, But, you know, if you've got a community where you can produce food and stuff like that, it's very important to go down that road and prepare for when this time comes.
But, you know, there's that great phrase that necessity is the mother of invention.
And human consciousness is incredibly creative and inventive.
And when the need comes, those things come into action.
You often only use them when circumstance forces you into using them.
And then you realize, hey, there are other ways of doing things.
I never even thought about this.
And if you look at how people have responded, To the censorship in the mainstream internet platforms with alternative forms of communication that are uncensored.
I mean, that's the classic example of necessity is the mother of intervention.
So, you know, we've got massive challenges coming.
And there's something else.
Okay, they want to crash the system.
Yeah. But on another level, do we want the system to continue And if they crash it, maybe we can intervene and go another way.
Because, you know, people live their lives.
They live in a house, maybe, if they own it or theoretically own it, in which they go to a bank that lends them money that doesn't exist called credit, and they pay back that plus interest For decade after decade after decade, just to have a roof over their head.
The whole system is top-down in position by the few on the many.
The whole system is controlled.
The direction of the world is controlled.
Do we really want to go back to what people call normal?
Do we want to go back to 2019?
What we don't want to do is go where they want to take us.
In this great reset. But do we want to go back to 2019?
I don't.
Because there are other ways of doing things.
And one of the perceptual traps is being perceptually controlled by the system in the sense that you can't see an alternative.
And, you know, people are born, and the world they're born into, they tend to accept, obviously, this is how the world is.
And most people go through their lives without questioning, why is the world like this?
There are other ways of doing it. They just follow and do the system rules.
Life lives them. And I've spoken at the Oxford University a few times, not for a long time, where you go there for a debate and stuff like that.
And what they do is they take you out for a bit of dinner beforehand.
And I was sitting on one of these occasions last time, actually, around a table and was sipping me soup.
And there was some of the students around that were in the debate.
And one of them was sitting there.
He could have been more than 18.
And this kid could not conceive of any society that wasn't top-down hierarchically controlled.
It would never work.
He simply couldn't do it.
He was perceptually controlled by the system in the sense that he couldn't see any alternative to the system was possible.
And people in general are like that.
But when the system's crashing, Well, we've got to start considering maybe there are other ways of doing things.
Maybe there are other ways of living your life whereby you might not have the possessions and the things in the way that you did before, but maybe you will be happier because maybe human relationships will start to form that will override the Technologically controlled, so-called human relationships that have emerged in the last few decades.
Relationships are no longer between people.
They're between humans and technology.
People have allowed technology to become so addictive that But you see it all the time.
People sit around the table and they're not talking to each other.
They're having a relationship with a bloody phone because people are being divided in that way.
Now, maybe if we saw there are other ways of doing things.
I'm coming up to 70, so I was born in 1952.
I remember a world like that.
There were no phones.
There were no computers when I was growing up.
Didn't exist. You talked to each other.
There were no video games.
You made your own fun with your own ingenuity, your own imagination, your own creativity.
Because you had to.
And people of that kind of age are able to see this extraordinary transformation in their lifetimes that has happened and how technology has taken over.
And it's taken over relationships because, of course, the relationship they're heading towards is the relationship between AI and the human bloody brain.
So people don't even think anymore.
AI thinks for them in totality.
That's where it's moving. So maybe if the system comes down on the way they want to the great reset, new status quo, maybe we can take that opportunity to have our own status quo and live life in a different way.
Because, for sure, the life that we've lived so far is over.
It's not going to come back.
And we have to decide where we want to go and how we want to live our lives from now on, and it will be different.
That doesn't mean it won't be better.
It won't mean at all that it won't be better.
What will make it not better Is if we allow the Great Reset to happen, because that will take tyranny into levels that are almost unimaginable, the perceptual tyranny. But are they 8 billion of us?
I think I can see a way out of this.
I can too. David, it's been an absolute pleasure getting you on this podcast.
I've been dreaming of having you on since that March 18th interview on London Real in 2020.
I really appreciate your work.
I've been following you for a long time.
God bless you, brother. We'll do it again in the future.
Cheers mate, all the best to you.
The coronavirus pandemic started in China.
Oxygen, medical supplies and physical care have been cut.
One of the five vaccines are being tried now.
I'm just a little bit drunk.
Stage one you create a problem.
It could be a manufactured virus.
You want a reaction and you want them to either say, do something, or you want them to accept what the authorities suggest must be done.
So one of the agendas is to massively cull the population.
They want to reduce the numbers.
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