Right Now - Gareth Icke Talks To Lawyer John Whitehead About The Legality Of Vaccine Mandates
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On the show this week, American lawyer and author John Whitehead discusses the legality of forced vaccinations, the importance of bodily autonomy and the government intrusion into our individual privacy.
Darren Nesbitt, founder and editor of The Light Paper, is in the Right Now studio talking about the rise of alternative media and the power of music as a form of protest.
Cinema owner Anna Redfern gives us an update on the Welsh Government's attempts to close her down after she refused to comply with vaccine passports.
Karen Dodd from the Freedom Network joins us to talk about creating new communities away from the mainstream matrix.
And Dawn Lester and David Parker talk to us about their best-selling book on health
and explain why everything we think we know about disease is wrong.
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Hello and welcome to Right Now.
Masks are back. Be afraid.
Be very afraid. Omicron.
Who is Omicron? I hear you gasp.
No, it isn't an end-of-level boss from Sonic the Hedgehog.
It's a variant. It's a variant.
Some people have noted that Omicron is actually an anagram of moronic.
Some have realised that Omicron B, the variant's scientific name, is an anagram of no-crimbo.
Many of you have come up with your own.
Mine are con. Oi, I'm a con.
A bit of poetic license there, but we'll give it to you.
Many of you also noted that if you add the word delta, you get media control.
I've actually discovered that if you add Omicron B variant to the Alpha variant to the Beta variant to the Delta variant, you get an anagram of how mind-numbingly predictable is it that a brand new variant appears just in time to cancel Christmas, break people down, destroy an already dying hospitality industry that was desperate for a lucrative holiday season, and throw everything back to where it was a year ago.
It's uncanny, isn't it?
You complied with two, you complied with three, and now the Dr.
Robotnik variant has appeared to send you back to the start.
Do not pass go, do not collect your free burger and fries.
Dr. Robotnik was the end of level boss from Sonic the Hedgehog.
Apparent journalist and talk show host Gerald Riviera has called double jabbed people that support the rights of those to refuse, dickheads.
That's Dr. Robotnik.
Our first guest tonight is one of America's biggest voices on personal freedom.
John Whitehead is an award-winning American lawyer and author.
In 1982, he founded the pioneering human rights organization, the Rutherford Institute.
It's one of America's most famous civil liberties institutions.
He's strongly opposed to vaccine mandates and says governments shouldn't be forcing people to sacrifice their bodily rights by getting a jab to keep a job.
He joins us now.
John, thank you so much for coming on to the show.
We really appreciate it.
What are the issues of bodily integrity and personal freedom?
Why are they so important? Bodily integrity is do we have a right to our own body?
You know, commit a crime or something like that.
They drag you into the courtroom, you can get charged and sent to prison, and your body's gone.
They do whatever they want to do with it.
But in a so-called free society, are we in a prison or are we in a free society?
If you're in a free society, you have a right to say no.
And it's the way they manipulate things, the government, they've always done it really well.
Like I said, I've been fighting this battle for over 40 years.
I'm a lawyer, constitutional lawyer.
It's fear. They scare people to death.
There's a terrorist attack.
There's a 9-11. Oh, there's a COVID. And now there's a new variant, and blah, blah, blah, blah.
And so fear makes people stupid.
And it's an easy way to control human beings.
And the only hope we've ever had in history, to be honest with you, is when a group of people says, we've had enough.
We're not going to put up with this stuff anymore.
We're going to fight back. The more people who are like me are out there that are standing on the cliff yelling, whoa, people, get together.
You know, they're looking at you going, oh, okay.
There's another weirdo out there.
And so that's the way it is.
If you're standing up for freedom, you ought to know your father, who's been on all the front lines for years saying things, and he gets criticized.
So he would know that.
You would know that. And bodily integrity is, you know, You know, the Supreme Court in this country just recently ruled that an unconscious man, they could actually take his blood from him on a highway to see if they can charge him with drugs to drive it.
They upheld that. We've gotten to the point where they can draw your blood out.
The police here in this country are stopping people.
Women actually are reaching up in their vaginas to see if they can find marijuana or something.
That's happening along roadsides.
That's blowing people's minds.
They're doing that in cities too.
They're asking people to bend over and they're sticking their hands in their anuses.
There's an idea with the government today, with how the police are operating, that we are just something to be controlled.
And that's what government wants.
They want our money. They want to control us.
They want our money. They want our energy.
They want us working for them.
And that's the whole idea.
But, you know, there has been times when people just said, we're not going to put up with this stuff anymore.
We're going to fight back. And I've been urging people Get in your local governments.
You know, we have a Bill of Rights.
A Bill of Rights that we have in our Constitution is dynamite to the government, by the way.
It says we have a right to free speech, a right to protest, a right to say, get out of here, government.
We have a right to own a weapon.
We have a right to keep the military out of our homes.
We have a right to not have surveillance done on us without a search warrant or a judge approving it.
It's amazing. How today the FBI is watching everything we're doing, the NSA is downloading all of our phone calls, reading all of our stuff on the web.
You mentioned the Bill of Rights.
Is that what people are using to try and get around these vaccine mandates and stuff?
Are they going back to the Bill of Rights?
Yeah. We're trying to do that, but again, the courts originally were set up to sort of protect us, a middle ground where we could fight the courts, but the courts generally agree with everything the government does, basically. The police, the vaccines, they've always done it.
As a man, obviously, with a legal background, you're a lawyer, what is the legal state of play when it comes to an employer saying, I'm going to sack you if you don't take this jab?
It feels like it should be illegal to do that.
It should be illegal to do that, yes, unless they have some valid evidence.
We have all kinds of laws that supposedly, and again, if you go to our website at rutherford.org in America, there are some appeals you could make to the government.
We help people do that.
But generally, it's very, very difficult because what the government's doing now, it's using the employers as their vehicles to force the mandate.
And employers are becoming enforcers for the government and they're working closely with the government.
And that hits another...
Things that's happening in this country are already taking place, by the way.
We live in a corporate state.
Corporations, Google, Facebook, all the big things, like I said, this Princeton study showed that, work with the government.
It's called the deep state.
You've heard that phrase used in this country.
And I talk to former NSA agents who tell me that.
They say, John, it's worse than you think.
I mean, it's... The country's run by people with a lot of money, and there was an SMU study, SM University in this country did a study of where psychopaths congregated in America.
They were trying to figure out what, and they found out Washington, D.C. is the place where psychopaths go.
And if you know, psychopaths can joke and laugh, be loved by the people, and then take your money at the same time and walk out the door and people salute them.
They did that to Hitler, too, by the way, and Mussolini and Stalin.
I'm thinking, like, in terms of...
Because you said something there about the fact that the government is using these companies, so the employers, as a vehicle.
And it's kind of shielding the government as well from any comeback, because it's kind of like, well, it's the company that's imposing it.
But then the government around the back are imposing on the company, well, if you don't have fully vaccinated staff or whatever, then we're not going to allow you to open.
So it's such a kind of cloak and dagger way of doing it.
And they've basically left the employer in such a point where, okay, I probably want to do what's right, which is not force it on my staff, but at the same time, if I don't, then I'm going to be shut down.
And so they're making this horrendous decision that people have got to make.
Oh, yeah. But, you know, again, if they were smart and worked with their employees, by the way, and got them together to work with them, they could change those things.
But the problem is most of your large corporations have already sold out.
To government agencies, and they're going to work with government agencies, and they want to put their smiley face out there because it's been sold to the public, the vaccine mandate, and through fear, by the way, and what you need.
All the news agencies, by the way, if you're flipping with CNN, Fox, and flipping through the channels here, they're all saying the same thing.
Get it, get it, get it, get it done, get it done, get it done, you know.
No one seems to be questioning it.
If you question it, you're considered an idiot.
And, you know, if you go back in time, There were always those people who stood up against government.
They were considered weirdos or outcasts and stuff like that.
Some of them got crucified.
Some of them got hung. Some of them got shot.
But we wouldn't be here without those kind of people.
So we just need stronger people to stand up and say, this is it.
We're not taking this stuff anymore.
Absolutely. The Rutherford Institute, which obviously you founded, it's issued a fact sheet to help people seeking exemptions to the mandates.
Have you had a lot of success with that?
We've had some success with it.
If you use it and use it in groups and stuff with your employees, you can make success.
We've had some success with it.
You can go through the legal channels and fight it and use strategy.
We've helped a lot of folks do that.
That's fantastic. Obviously, you've had a long, distinguished legal career.
Have you ever seen anything like this before?
Or is this complete? Because to me, this whole thing, the last two years, on a daily basis, I just sit there like that and I just think, I don't know how I'm not losing my mind with this madness.
Is it something you've seen before, or is it totally new to you as well?
Well, I saw it with 9-11, sort of, but the thing about the COVID thing is it's like an unseen demon, and it works really well.
Like, you know, the so-called infectious diseases and stuff, and people don't know if they touch this or touch that or talk to the wrong person, they're going to get this disease.
And so it's worked really well, and it's moving us closer to what they really want.
That's a digital global state, and that's where we're headed in the world.
There's no doubt about that.
When you have China working with Google, you have the NSA working with 17 countries setting up a total global surveillance state.
Folks, it's going to be very, very difficult.
And here's the thing, though, and James Madison, who wrote our Bill of Rights, said it, we ought to mistrust all those in power.
Don't believe what you hear.
Question it. Practice free speech.
Challenge people, again, nonviolently.
Just say, hey, this doesn't quite make sense.
Let's debate this, okay?
And get people debating and thinking.
Otherwise, they just sit and watch the TV and drink their coffee and go, okay, I'll go do it.
Yeah. When you read 1984, it feels like George Orwell was basically Nostradamus.
You've written a book about Eric Blair, who's obviously the real name of George Orwell.
What is your book about?
Is it about his life or is it about his work, particularly the 1984 stuff?
It's set in about 50 years from today, and the government's basically been taken over by AI totally.
And there's a young man named Eric Blair, which was actually Orwell's real name, by the way.
He named himself after the River Orwell in England.
And took a, you know, a lot of the writers in those days did that.
But he...
It comes back to the future through Eric Blair, the young man's DNA in the book.
And the young man's learned to be a freedom fighter.
And Orwell helps him get through all this with some freedom fighters that hide underground and fight all the things we're seeing.
And the things that people like you, your dad, and others have warned about over the years.
Fights for freedom and actually tells people what they need to know.
But the key thing in all of it is awareness, being aware of what's going on, thinking.
Don't get your so-called sources of information and news from this channel or that channel.
Think independently.
Education precedes action, I tell people.
And so the book's about that.
It's a bunch of young freedom fighters trying to change the world, and George Orwell comes back and helps them.
That sounds great. I need to read it.
Thank you very much for taking the time to talk to us today, John.
It's wonderful to talk to you.
I post your articles all the time on the website and stuff.
It's just great to actually finally, even though it's through a screen, but see you and have a proper conversation.