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Nov. 23, 2021 - David Icke
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Right Now - Gareth Icke Talks To Dr Tom Cowan About The Invisible Virus & The Covid Cult
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On the show this week, world-renowned medical expert and best-selling author Dr.
Tom Cowan joins us from America to tell us why he's against the mainstream medical narrative.
We hear reaction from a parent to a court order that their child should be vaccinated.
Stephen Weibrow talks to us from Austria about the new lockdown there for the unvaccinated.
Ian Clifford from Matrix Freedom explains how to get out of debt and live freely forever by changing your birth certificate status.
And Mark Malone is on the line from the US, talking to us about the rise of global governance and how we can beat it.
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Hello and welcome to right now.
Young, healthy sportsmen and women across the world continue to drop like flies.
Elite athletes in prime physical condition falling to the ground, just collapsing and sometimes tragically passing away.
According to one study from America, more sports people have collapsed in the last four months than in the last four years.
That's weird, isn't it?
That is weird, isn't it?
The tinfoil hat wearing coincidence theorists are brushing it off, of course.
That's just sports, man. It's part of the game.
It isn't. It really isn't.
The country of Hitler's birth is commemorating the memory of one of their own by going full, well, Hitler.
They've become the first nation to lock down the non-compliant, actively discriminating against people and excluding them from society on the basis of their medical history.
The jackboots are just following orders as they check papers in the coffee shops, Did you know Austria opened the nation's first Holocaust memorial last week?
They said, we looked away for too long until we became aware of our role as perpetrators.
Iranian fascism are like that.
In the UK, Boris Johnson continues to poke the British population with the threat of taking away Christmas.
It's not his to take.
And the Eton mess may find a little more resistance than he bargained for.
The arrogance always gets the better of them in the end.
An arrogance that saw them laying wreaths at the Cenotaph while taking away the freedoms that these people gave their lives for.
Cult's gonna cult. Talking of arrogance, our resident sidekick, Bill Gates, he warned us a week ago of an impending smallpox bioterror attack.
Ooh, that sounds scary.
On Wednesday, the FBI and CDC were investigating suspicious vials marked smallpox in a Merck laboratory in Philadelphia.
Merck, they took $120 million of Bill's money a month ago to develop their Covid pill.
It really is a small world, isn't it?
Our first guest tonight is an expert who spent the last two years loudly challenging the mainstream medical narrative.
Dr. Tom Cowan practiced medicine in America for nearly 40 years and spoke out against masks, against social distancing, against forced jabs from the very beginning of the pandemic.
His best-selling book, The Contagion Myth, challenged the assumption that viruses cause disease.
And he says his new book, Breaking the Spell, will end the COVID delusion once and for all.
I really hope so.
We're delighted to welcome him onto the show.
Dr Cowan, welcome to Right Now.
As a doctor with nearly 40 years of experience, what made you challenge the official science on COVID? I think that the correct answer would be common sense.
I mean, I often tell people that, you know, when I came into this, and I think, you know, as many things in life as I can, I say, I don't want to have what I call a dog in this fight.
In other words, if viruses cause disease, that's fine.
And if they don't, that's fine too.
Like, I couldn't care less.
So that allows me to just, you know, get off any kind of high horse or preconception and look at the facts.
And the facts couldn't be clearer.
The whole idea of a virus is simply a misconception or an error or maybe a fraud.
And once you see the science, you can't possibly believe that these things cause disease.
So what's it been like for you in terms of what reaction have you got against you for speaking out?
I mean, every reaction you can imagine.
I have, you know, thousands and thousands of people who wish me well and say that I've helped their life and, you know, helped them understand a new and more honest and truthful and more beautiful way of seeing the world.
And then I've had people say I'm the biggest idiot in the world.
I've had Derogatory newspaper articles and TV things and magazine articles, and some of them even lie about what happens.
So I've had everything you can imagine.
Tell us about your new book then.
So the contagion myth, which you wrote last year, you say that viruses and bacteria don't cause disease and there's other obviously significant factors.
To most people who have obviously come through the kind of education system or the medical training system, that's quite controversial.
Can you explain that?
So the new book, which is not a book, it's a booklet, was my attempt to distill the main point of what I've been saying for the last two years into 35 pages so that anybody can understand it and anybody can give it to their friend or relative or coworker or boss and say, if you want to know the story here, Here it is in an easy-to-read, simple way and not a whole lot of extraneous stuff.
So that was my goal.
So the argument comes down to, or not the argument, the point comes down to a simple question, which is what I ask everybody these days, is how do you or a virologist know there's a virus and know that it causes disease?
Because I would contend that if you don't know the answer to that, then by all rights you should have no opinion about this matter.
I use the example of if you ask me what do I think about carburetors, I would say I don't know anything about them and I'm not really interested.
And I have no opinion about them and I'm not going to lock down the world based on faulty carburetors because I don't know anything about them.
And if that's where you're at with viruses, then at best you should have no opinion about it.
But I think since they are locking the whole world down because of this erroneous theory that viruses exist and cause disease, it seems to me people, especially science people, would want to know whether it's true or not.
Now, if you want, I can walk you through how you know, how a virologist knows whether there's a virus.
Please do, yes.
So, it goes like this.
You say, okay, how do you know the existence of a virus?
You ask most people.
They say, well, a lot of people get sick and that proves it's a virus.
Or somebody said, the consensus of virologists say there's a virus, or scientists.
In other words, they took a vote and that's how they know there's a virus.
Or you have this disease, and it spreads from one place to another, and that proves it's a virus.
Or a whole lot of people in this prison got sick, and that proves it's a virus.
Or my Aunt Bessie went to church, and then she got sick, and then Uncle Fred got sick, and that proves it's a virus.
So the reality is those are called epidemiological observations.
We have asked—we being the group that I work with—about 140 different health institutions around the world.
We're talking about the Canadian government and the CDC and the NIH and New Zealand government and British government and the health departments and different cities, different countries, 140 of them have said in writing, we have no record of any SARS-CoV-2 being found in any person who has COVID. Not once.
Nor have they produced a paper showing that they found any virus like the chickenpox virus or the measles virus or the mumps virus or the flu virus or the Ebola virus or HIV virus in anybody who has any of those diseases.
They are unable to produce a paper.
We asked the lead authors of the six papers who claimed they found SARS-CoV-2 in people with COVID, and all of them said in writing they never isolated, i.e., found any SARS-CoV-2 in any fluid of anybody with COVID. The final thing I'll say is I was asked, because obviously I have a controversial opinion, to give a presentation similar to this to a group of leading anti-vax so-called lawyers,
activists, scientists, etc.
So these are the biggest names who are fighting for health freedom.
But they're not happy with what I'm saying.
So they invited me to talk about this.
And they had two or three virologists there.
And they also invited a guy they introduced as 20 years head virologist or senior virologist for the Wuhan Chinese Center for Disease Control in Wuhan, obviously.
And then 20 years senior pathologist at Yale University, one of the most prestigious universities in the United States.
Head of Viral Laboratory Science.
So you would think this guy should know something about how to find a virus.
So we said, nobody has ever found a virus that causes disease in any biological fluid.
Do you agree? And he said, yes.
We said, why not?
What is the theory that it's causing disease then?
He said, there's not enough virus to find.
Which, of course, begs the question, if there's not enough virus to find, on what theory is it going to kill us all?
So I was with my friend Andy Kaufman, and Andy had the presence of mind to ask him, if you mix the fluid from, say, the lung of 10 people with COVID, would you then be able to have enough to find the virus?
And he said no.
What about 100 people?
And he said, no.
What about 1,000 people with COVID? Would you have enough biological fluid from their lungs to find even one virus?
And he said, no.
And then we said, what about 10,000 people?
And he said, no, there's not enough to find.
And then he wouldn't answer anymore.
So if you think, anybody listening, that anybody has ever found a uniform particle that you could call a pathogenic virus, in any so-called viral disease, you are simply uninformed.
That's not the case.
That has never been done.
So what are they talking about?
Well, I just said they never found the virus.
So here's how they do it.
And this process, which is called the viral culture, started in 1954 with a guy named John Enders.
Now everybody has to remember that what you're looking for It's a uniform, identical shape, size, morphology particle that has a protein coat and a piece of genetic material in the inside.
They should be all identical, and there should be thousands of them.
So here's how they do it.
Every single paper I've read for the last two years, they take fluid from somebody they say has, say, COVID. They either centrifuge it or filter it, which is not purification, it is not isolation.
It's just to get some of the debris out.
They take this unpurified liquid, they mix it with fetal calf serum, and they inoculate it, which means spread it, on bovine kidney, yes, sorry, monkey kidney cells, not bovine. They're called Vero cells.
And then they see what happens.
They try to, quote, grow the virus.
Now, if they just did that, the virus wouldn't grow.
So the next thing they do is they take away the food from the cells.
They starve the cells.
It's called Delbeco's Minimal Nutrient Medium.
And then nothing happens.
And so then they add two antibiotics in 54.
Enders added streptomycin and penicillin.
Nowadays, they add genomycin and amphotericin.
These are two very highly kidney-toxic substances.
Then what happens is the kidney cells break down into thousands of particles with all different size and shapes.
That's called the cytopathic effect, otherwise known as CPE. The cytopathic effect is proof of the existence of the virus and that the virus causes disease.
Period. That is how they prove it.
In other words, they mix unpurified snot with antibiotics and fetal calf serum, both of which, well, that has its own particles and genetic material.
They spread it on monkey cells.
They poison the monkey cells.
The monkey cells break down, and they say that proves there's a virus.
Now, why did I write Breaking the Spell?
Because for the first time in 60-some years, we, and we means Stefan Lanca, who is a virologist by training, now he's not, but Andy Kaufman and myself, we decided to repeat this experiment.
So what we did to make it absolutely clear is we took these kidney cells, or cell culture, and we grew them, and they were fine.
And then we added calf serum and a little bit of antibiotics, and they were fine.
And then we took away the nutrients and added the same amount of antibiotics that they do in all the isolation experiments.
In other words, we reproduce the isolation experiment, except we never added anything from anybody who is sick.
And we proved that the cells break down in that characteristic cytopathic effect, proving that the virus killed the cells even though at no time was any virus added to the mixture.
Proving the whole thing is nonsense.
Can you hear me still?
Because I think, like, I'm not a virologist, but from the way you've just explained how they do isolation, that's madness to me.
So I go, so why are these medical people accepting it?
What do you think it's all about, this whole COVID thing?
So let me just finish.
So the first pillar of virology is this cytopathic effect, right?
Which we've proven is because of the way they starve and poison.
Then they show you pictures of the virus.
Now, we have papers going back to 1973 showing those identical pictures in kidney biopsies and lung cancer and all kinds of disease states.
And in 1973, the CDC held a conference saying these little particles are actually not viruses.
They are simply debris from the breakdown of the tissue.
So that's the second pillar.
Well, we see the virus.
Turns out you don't see anything.
All you see is when you starve in poison tissue, it breaks down into little pieces exactly like you would expect, and that is not a virus.
The third pillar is, well, we took this cell culture and it breaks down into little pieces and we put it in our computer and it aligned it in a way that I don't need to go into.
It put the pieces together and we found the SARS-CoV-2 genome.
So that proves that the genome is there.
So what we did was we took that cell culture that had no virus in it, and we added pure RNA from yeast, because this is an RNA virus, And ran the program exactly the way they ran the SARS-CoV-2.
And lo and behold, we came out with the genome for SARS-CoV-2, even though there was never anything from any virus or any person with COVID anywhere near that mixture, proving that the alignment or the production of that genome It's based on a complete artifact.
It's completely anti-scientific because you get the same result if you just do it with a bunch of RNA from yeast.
And our next step, and this is all described in the booklet, Our next step is we're going to show that you can make any RNA virus you want by doing the same thing.
So you can find the measles virus, Ebola virus, Zika virus, HIV virus.
All you have to do is add yeast RNA, put it into the computer.
It makes an in silico or imaginary genome, and that's how they find it.
And the whole thing It's anti-scientific, illogical, irrational nonsense.
What is the reaction of the medical and scientific community to you doing that?
Because for me, as an outsider, you've just disproved everything that they're basing this whole narrative on.
Are they basically just ignored it?
Or are they attacking it?
Interesting about this, if you were to take a guess, how much money has been put into the study of virology in the last 50 years?
Just take a wild guess.
Three billion dollars.
Hundreds of billions of dollars.
Hundreds of billions of dollars.
Right? Hundreds of billions, maybe more.
You know how much it took us?
I know the exact number because I was the fundraiser for this study.
To disprove virology, you know how much money it took?
Go on, something ridiculous.
What about $500?
$42,000.
Okay, still, yeah. Still not hundreds of billions or even close.
I mean, right.
We had to raise some money to buy the, you know, the cultures and keep them going and get some yeast and get the right drugs and everything and to take the pictures, make sure that we had, you know, every step of the way was observed and verified, right? It's not nothing.
Of course. But $42,000, that's like...
You know, that's nothing.
A drop in the ocean in comparison.
So you've, I mean, you've surrendered your medical license now.
Is that because you've kind of looked over the last two years at the medical community and just thought, you know what, I don't want any part of this?
Exactly. This is exactly like being in a cult.
I can't disagree with that. If you talk to people in a cult, you know, you can go up to somebody now and say, why are you getting this injection?
Well, so that my people around me don't get sick.
You know, it's just altruistic.
So I don't transmit the virus to Aunt Bessie, right?
And then you read them.
Fauci, CDC, Moderna say there are no studies about the transmission effect on this injection.
It does not stop transmission, right?
That's what they say.
So you read that to them, and then you say, so now why would you get this?
Well, so that Aunt Bessie doesn't get sick.
And you think to yourself, Here's where we're at.
Humanity, that's why I used to say it's a spell.
Now I would actually say we have a worldwide virus cult.
And here's the thing, whenever you're in a cult, you stop thinking.
Because it's more important for you to be accepted by the cult, because that's where your meaning comes from.
So if you say, I don't think this cult guy knows what he's talking about, then you will be shamed, humiliated, othered, ostracized, and sometimes worse.
And that's where humanity is right now.
If they say what I'm saying, or even think about what I'm saying, they will be ostracized from their community, and to most people, there's nothing worse than that.
They will fight to the death for that not to happen.
Now, here's the problem.
You know where all cults end up?
Um, imploding, basically.
Death, right? Often by suicide.
And that's where we're headed.
What advice would you give for people that want to be healthy?
Like just generally, I'm thinking people have been locked down in their house, they've been eating rubbish food, probably drinking too much.
Stress obviously has been playing a massive part on people.
And we have a lot of people that watch this that are kind of trying to look for answers, how they can make themselves healthier.
I mean, I'm hardly going to even try to answer that question because the first thing is you have to change how you see the world.
Because if you don't do that, if you think there's a virus and you think you should be afraid, I don't care what you eat, drink, smoke, or whatever, your goose is cooked.
Because you are living a delusional life, and that is bad for your health.
So everybody who's interested in having good health needs to learn to see the world properly.
Otherwise, none of this makes sense.
And once you do that, the rest of it, what to eat and what to drink just falls into place.
And then you don't wear a mask and you don't social distance and you don't inject yourself with poisons and And all that stuff, all that's easy because if there's no virus, none of these things have any relevance.
There's no lab-created virus.
There's no engineered virus.
There's no natural immunity.
There's no vaccine immunity.
There's no pathogenic priming.
There's no antibody-dependent enhancement.
There's none of that stuff.
If there's no virus, you don't have to think about any of that because it's all make-believe.
Magic. Thank you for this, Tom.
Thank you for taking the time to talk to us.
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