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Take care. I would like to welcome David Icke to my show.
I'm very honored to have you here, David.
Very welcome. That's very kind.
Thank you. Do you know that in Swedish this podcast is called Muttgångspodden?
Do you have any idea what that means?
No, not a clue. Okay, so actually it's directly translated the diversity pod.
Ah, well that's good. Yeah, and I guess you in many ways fit in here very well then.
Yeah, I mean, diversity has lost its meaning a little bit.
I mean, the real meaning of diversity is to be diverse.
Okay, yeah. So much of what we call diversity is actually the opposite.
It's about destroying diversity and just pushing one way of looking at everything.
So we've got diverse in its true context here then.
Yeah, true. So as much as I would love to talk to you about a lot of things, and especially that, I have one hour here with you, so I thought what to do with all of this competence.
So actually I choose a bit of a direction and let's see where we go.
Okay, would that be okay with you?
No problem. Anyway, let's go.
Super. So I actually would like to start with my childhood.
Because it's been going on quite a lot of interesting things recently that goes back to my childhood.
So I want to mention a name to you and see if maybe you know who this woman is or not.
But she means a lot to me in my life now, even though she's actually dead since quite some years ago.
And her name was Raundi-Lena Lukkanen.
Does that ring any bell?
No, who was she?
She was the Finnish health minister.
She was a doctor.
She was traveling over the world during lectures, writing books, being very silent.
She talked about you.
I've not heard the name because, you know, I've not got a good ear for that, but, you know, in Finnish, Swedish, but I do know, now you've described her, I do know her, yes.
She was very busy in the 90s.
When I was a child, my mom worked as a psychic.
She's a medium. And she bumped into Ramelina one day.
And they connected right away.
And they started to get busy with things together regarding things.
That is happening now, today.
And so I grew up hearing a lot about these things that we're going through today and also what you have been writing about and so on in your books.
And she has been very coming through to my mom these days and I did a podcast for a few months ago about transhumanism and then she has been very picky wanting to come through with a lot of things.
So if that is okay with you, I would like to keep it to the subject a bit about transhumanism.
Okay. And also about the children since what I do is that I work very much for and with the children and I very much worry and care for the children's future.
So let's start about that.
So she was talking a lot about the transhumanism and so do you.
What's going on with that?
What do you have to say about where we are?
Well, it's a massive part of a massive pattern in which many things connect.
The current COVID jabs connect into this very much, seriously much.
So does transgenderism and this explosion of focus upon it in recent times where it came out of nowhere and suddenly everywhere.
The sperm counts that are plummeting catastrophically around the world come into this.
And you put it all together, and what is going on, and I've been writing about this for a long time, is that what you might call human 1.0, the biological human that we know, is in the process of being replaced, unless we intervene, by human 2.0, which is a much more synthetic version of human.
And that's to do with many things, but Very much concerned with connecting the human brain, the human body to artificial intelligence.
So artificial intelligence becomes the human mind.
Up to this point, they've had to control the mass population by control of perception through control of information and suppression of other information.
But with the plan to connect the human brain to AI, the perceptions of humans are planned to come direct.
No manipulation of information necessary because you'll get your opinions direct.
And so you've got two things going on at the same time, which you would have in the situation I've just described.
One is the phasing out of human 1.0, which is why the sperm counts are plummeting and why human fertility is increasing.
is in trouble and why so many brave, courageous, proper doctors and scientists who've come out and said that this fake vaccine because it's not a real vaccine is a danger of sterilizing women and the fertility of women.
You've had a lot of impacts on people who've had the jab, women, on the fertility cycle and not least in miscarriages too and stillborn babies.
There's a interview on my website at the moment with a funeral director in Britain who's saying that how many stillbirths and Still born babies and miscarriages he's come across through people who've been vaccinated or fake vaccinated.
So you've got the plummeting sperm counts, but you've also got the attack on men.
And as I said, when that started, they'll come for the women next.
And the reason they're attacking the men and attacking the women and transgender is everything.
It's because the human 2.0 is not meant to procreate.
The species is meant to be, in the words of Aldous Huxley in Brave New World in 1932, decanted technologically and basically produced in a laboratory setting.
And the technology that he described in Brave New World in 1932 is now being developed.
It's now being produced and played out.
Artificial wombs, etc.
And so you've got that side of it with the The no procreation.
And so you don't need men and women anymore in this brave new world of what I call the global cult that's behind all this.
And this transgender explosion is not actually about transgender.
The vast majority of people in that movement will think it's about them.
They'll think it's about transgender.
It's not. The key activists driving this will know that.
It's not about transgender.
It's about no gender. The no gender human.
Human 2.0.
And so what you are seeing, and you mentioned children, and I'm really with you on that, is the preparation of children and young people for the no gender human.
This is why you're having drag queens around the world.
Everybody got the same idea at the same time, it seems.
Reading books, going into schools, reading books in libraries to very young children.
And if you want to confuse a child's sense of gender Then a drag queen is perfect.
I've got nothing against them. You know, I have a philosophy, do what you like so long as you don't impose on anyone else.
But this is a classic way of confusing gender in the eyes of a small child.
And what we're seeing is the confusing of gender on the road to the fusion of gender.
And young people today, the children today, Are meant to live in that kind of world, because this is moving very fast.
So all these things connect, but the main part of the transgender human is being connected to what they call the smart grid or the cloud.
Being connected to cyberspace.
And this metaverse that this psychopath Zuckerberg is talking about in recent times, where people are being connected into cyberspace through a, quote, avatar, it's all part of this process of absorbing the human mind into cyberspace.
And so you have Being created all around us.
This cloud, this Wi-Fi cloud, which they plan to cover every inch of the planet.
This is why people like Elon Musk, who's absolutely one of this cults, He's putting up in the end thousands of, and he's not alone, but he's the leader in it, thousands of low-orbit satellites firing Wi-Fi and 5G at the Earth.
Because the idea is that the human body and the human mind is connected to this cloud and is directed From this cloud in terms of their perceptions through this AI. And what a surprise, therefore, that Doctors with integrity and scientists with integrity, not the majority clearly as we've seen in the COVID era, who've looked at the contents of these vials of these fake vaccines,
these mRNA fake vaccines and the others, have found, well, two things.
One, Things like graphene oxide and other nanotechnology, which has magnetic properties and a superconductor of electricity properties, is in these vaccines, these fake vaccines, which is not there to head off a virus that's never been shown to exist.
It's there as part of the process of connecting humans to AI in the cloud.
And, you know, people like Ray Kurzweil at Google, a Google executive who's pushing this transgender human business as much as anybody has been for a long time.
He's openly talking now about the fact that by 2030, the human brain will be connected to AI. And once that happens, AI will do more and more of human thinking until human thinking as we know it.
These are his words. Will be virtually negligible, if at all.
And so, these fake vaccines are putting in the connection material for this trans-human connection to AI and the cloud.
The other side of these fake vaccines is that what has been found in a very significant number of them is nothing but a saline solution.
And it seems that the depopulation aspect of these fake vaccines, because you have them, they're self-replicating, The material they put in is self-replicating, so it's impacting on the body more by the hour and the day and the week.
It's going to take out a lot of people, unfortunately, because the body's not going to be able to make the transition.
The ones that survive are designed to be this transhuman transitional group to human 2.0.
And because of this, it makes sense of what is otherwise nonsensical.
You have a virus, alleged, that's never been shown to exist.
But even if you accept its existence on the basis of no evidence, but even if you do, the infection to fatality rate is tiny.
In children, it's zero, basically, even by the official figures.
But people like Gates and all these other psychopaths are saying that every man, woman and child on the planet must have this vaccine.
Well, why would they say that for something that has so little impact on death?
Because that's not what it's about.
It's about getting this stuff into people.
And the way they're working it is, it's basically like Russian roulette.
You have the first one.
You may get a saline solution.
You have the second one.
If you're really lucky, you may get a saline solution.
But you have a booster, and you're almost certainly going to get the bad stuff.
So what they're doing is in a gradual cycle of more and more, quote, boosters and coming out for fake vaccines for new variants they've made up, that they're going to pick people off.
But, you know, if they'd have...
Come out with this, and the bad stuff was in every vial, then they're struggling now to hide the enormity of the deaths and life-changing injuries that are going on around the world.
If they came out full-blown and didn't have a very significant number of these saline vials, then they wouldn't be able to hide it at all.
So, you know, if you've had these fake vaccines and you've had no reaction whatsoever, then you've almost certainly had the saline solution.
But the more you have, the more likely you are to get one of the bad ones.
And the ratio of the figures now of people who have the bad stuff to death and life-changing injury is massive.
Because you look at these percentages of adverse reactions and death to this fake vaccine, but you're not comparing that with the totality of people who've had it, because a great number of people who've had it up to this point have had the saline.
So you're actually comparing the impact With the ratio of those who've had the bad stuff, and that ratio is incredibly high, I can tell you.
Even though they heal? I mean, can people heal if you take one and two?
Is there any way to...
Or how do you...
I mean, basically, that is...
That is an unknown.
I mean, obviously, the fewer you have, the less of the impact, certainly initially, although it is self-replicating.
But the more you have, you know, if people have had two and now a booster, Which many have had, then you are seriously asking for trouble.
But this is the scam, you see.
Because, you know, we're still talking about the transhuman agenda here, because fundamental to it is getting this stuff inside everybody.
Yes. And to do it in this secular way, not for everyone to start keeling over in vast numbers everywhere, They're doing it in this catchy monkey way that if you don't get it at the first one, you'll get it at the second or you get it at the third or you get it at the fourth because this is the scam to get this stuff inside everybody.
They tell you that You are not going to be able to interact with society and have what we call a normal life if you don't get fake vaccinated.
Because if you don't, you're not going to get your vaccine passport.
And they tell you at the start, as they did, get your first two and then you get your passport or you'll get your ability to interact with society.
Go back to normal.
And then they say, as they're saying now, oh, actually, fully vaccinated is now going to be three.
You're going to have to have the booster.
In Israel, they're talking about the fourth and the fifth.
People like Fauci in America, who's just an absolute cult asset, string pulled by Gates, he's saying one every eight months.
And the British government minister has come out and said, if you want to go on holiday next year, Next summer, then you're going to have to have the third one.
And the CDC in America are saying what they call immunocompromised people are going to have to have a fourth.
And now they're indicating that a fourth for everybody else.
So you can see how they're playing it.
And the more you have The more impact it's going to have on your body and what some have found in these vials as they've looked through the microscope Are almost like, because this is self-replicating, and they talk about this stuff appearing to be alive.
Right. Yeah, and so they're talking about seeing almost like neuron networks being constructed by In the body, people have had this fake vaccine, which would fit, because what they want to do is overlay the normal vaccine.
Thought and emotional responses and the systems, the biological systems that decode those feelings and thoughts and overlay it with something synthetic.
The synthetic would be connected to the smart grid, as they're calling it, the cloud.
The reason that almost everything that comes out now is smart in front of it is because whether it's a technology or whether it's a technique or whether it's a way of doing things they call smart, they're all aspects of this smart grid which is designed to Be a global phenomenon.
Now, let's look at that.
You have AI connected to the human brain all over the world.
That's the idea. Now, you've got a hive mind.
You've got a hive mind connected potentially, and that's the idea, to a central point.
Which can deliver the perceptual processes of everyone from a central point.
This is the idea. I mean, I did a six, seven hour actually live stream on Saturday.
Wow. Wow. People can see a recording of it at iconic.com.
But I put a couple of slides up there, one in particular in relation to this, that I used in a talk ages ago, years and years and years ago.
And it was a picture of a beehive, you know, the beehive construct.
And on the slide, it said the assimilation.
And what I was talking about all those years ago in the talks with that slide and others was the fact that the plan is to assimilate the human mind into AI. So AI dictates all human thought.
And now, with these fake jabs, we're seeing the means of that connection.
Because, you know, just very quickly, I know in Sweden they've had these microchips that you can see, these rice-sized microchips.
Yes, yes. But that's been a bit of a...
Because the real chipping, the real connection, is nanotechnology.
It's so tiny, massively beyond the ability of the human eye to see.
That's where the real connection is taking place.
We listen to Motorgårdsprogrammet.
What about the children?
I mean, now they're really rushing it and they are going down in the ages to push the fake vaccines into our children and that's where I go.
You know, totally that's why I'm so busy working with this because it just cannot happen.
Have we seen anything in the UK and how is it there with the ages and what they're doing right now?
Well, first of all, as they've gone down the ages, The number of teenagers, etc., and young people, young men and women dying, has gone up.
As they've gone down the age groups, that age group's death rate has gone up.
I mean, the death rate from all causes is significantly, significantly higher now.
Than it was when they started rolling these fake jabs out.
I mean, you talk to funeral directors in this country, for instance, it will be the same everywhere, though.
And they say that once the fake jabs were played out last January, January 2021, in number, they said they'd never seen anything like it.
The number of dead people that were coming through their funeral businesses suddenly.
The one that's on davidike.com at the moment, he's talking about that as they've gone down the age groups, each age group has been represented by more and more dead people.
As they've gone down the age groups.
Now, why are they going down the age groups?
Because the idea is to jab babies at the earliest possible age.
To understand what's going on and how they're doing it is to understand how this whole cult works.
I've written about it at great length and in great detail.
And you can track it through history from ancient Babylon, Egypt into the Roman Empire up to become the British and the European empires.
And that's when it went global with colonization, because when the colonizers of Europe, the countries apparently rolled back And gave, quote, freedom and independence to the former colonies.
That's not what happened.
They left out there the networks and the particular bloodlines, the secret society networks, that have gone on controlling those countries ever since.
But it's been more effective because, you know, at least if you are under colonial rule, you know who's ruling you.
But when you go into the secret society level of all this, you don't know who's ruling you, because who appears to be ruling you, the President or Prime Minister or whoever, is just a gopher for what's really ruling you.
And this global cult has a, it's a network of secret societies and semi-secret groups that has an interlocking leadership.
You go deep enough into the Freemasons and you will meet the force that controls the Knights Templar, the Knights of Malta, Opus Dei, the inner core of the Jesuit order.
Once you go deep enough into each of their rabbit holes, they all meet.
It's the web with an interlocking leadership.
And from this central core that I call the spider at the center of the web, This global agenda plays out.
This is why the same things happen in all these different countries at the same time, because you've got the global web, and then in each country you've got the subsidiary webs, networks, whose job it is to control that country's politics, to control the medical system, to control the media, to control the finance, to control the major corporations.
And their job in each country is to impose in that country the agenda of the spider.
This is again why the same things are happening everywhere at the same time.
So if you look at this whole COVID jab situation, and indeed the COVID hoax in general, it starts to make sense when you know this.
Allopathic medicine, the scalpel and drug medicine, It was imposed upon the world by the Rockefeller family, starting with J.D. Rockefeller, the oil tycoon.
And it was the Rockefeller family in 1948 that effectively created the World Health Organization.
And they did that so that they would have control of global health policy under one roof.
Now the World Health Organization is controlled on behalf of the Rockefellers, who are working on behalf of the cult, by Bill Gates.
And the Gates family and the Rockefeller family go way back.
They're very, very close. And Gates controls the World Health Organization through funding.
Billions go into the World Health Organization from Bill Gates.
And so you have the World Health Organization that has basically driven the response to this COVID hoax.
And this is how it works.
You have all the member countries of the World Health Organization, and each one in the different countries has a health pyramid, a hierarchy.
Overwhelmingly dominated by the chief medical officer, the chief scientific advisor, etc.
And so they're taking orders from the World Health Organization, which is taking orders from Gates, taking orders from the Rockefellers, taking orders from the cult, the inner core.
And this is, again, why you've had this, apart from very rare exceptions, this unified response to COVID. Now, J.D. Rockefeller also spawned what we call Big Pharma, the pharmaceutical cartel, which is a global killing machine Even by the figures you can glean, and they're much worse than that.
In America, for instance, the third biggest cause of death, actually, if you got all the figures together, it would be the biggest cause of death in America, is the treatment.
Through the various expressions of the big pharma cartel, through the medical system that it creates and the drugs it produces and so on.
And so you've got this...
This cult that controls the World Health Organization, that controls the big pharmaceutical cartel, thus controls Pfizer and Moderna and Johnson& Johnson and all these corporations.
And it's...
It's orchestrated the whole thing.
It's controlling the medical pyramids in the different countries.
Overwhelmingly, there are one or two exceptions, but few, to impose this centralized agenda.
And who is massively funding The production of these fake vaccines, Bill Gates, who controls the World Health Organization.
It's all connected.
And then you go from Gates and you go into Fauci in America.
You go into Chris Whitty, the chief medical officer of England.
And what Whitty has just done is we have a vaccine advisory committee In this country, which throughout the COVID era has given the government everything it wants.
It's just advised that, you know, yes, yes, we advise that you should have the vaccine.
Yes, we advise that this age group should have it.
But when they came down to 12 to 15 year olds, a few weeks ago now, quite a few weeks ago now, They said, no, we don't recommend that healthy 12 to 15-year-olds should have the vaccine.
Well, what's happened now is the cult agenda, the Gates agenda, the World Health Organization Rockefeller agenda in England anyway, is potentially being halted here.
They're not going any lower.
So what the government did is...
Say, well, the Vaccine Advisory Committee has made this decision based on medicine, science.
But what we're going to do is we're going to hand the decision, the final decision, to the Chief Medical Officer of England, Chris Whitty, who is connected massively to Gates and the World Health Organization.
To make a decision for non-medical reasons.
So this guy, complete psychopath, came out and said, and you knew he was going to do it, that having looked at it, in the interest of the children's education, I mean...
I'm recommending that 12 to 15 year olds have this jab.
And of course, you've got all the myocarditis that's gone on, particularly in young boys and young men.
And so if you look at it, right, the medical systems of each country are controlled by the cult.
The drug companies producing these fake vaccines are controlled by the cult.
But so are the regulators.
We've got one in Britain called the MHRA that is supposed to be the drug regulator to protect the people from big pharma.
One of its biggest funders, some say the biggest funder, is Bill Gates.
And it's the arbiter of whether a fake vaccine is allowed or not.
You've got the Centers for Disease Control in America, the CDC, that's owned by the cult.
You've got the Food and Drug Administration in America, that's owned by the cult.
And so when cult-owned Pfizer and these other people go to ask for permission, To go to a lower age group, I mean Pfizer wants babies to be vaccinated before the end of the winter.
It's an asset of the cult asking another asset of the cult for permission to advance the agenda of the cult.
That's what's going on. So it's only when you realize that this cult exists how it works and how it's the cement that holds it all together.
I mean, there's another great example.
When the World Health Organization came out and started saying this is how the world should respond to this, Facebook and Google and YouTube and these Silicon Valley platforms came out and said, we're going to censor anyone that challenges or questions the World Health Organization narrative.
Now, on the face of it, you would say, you're going to do what?
What do you mean you're going to censor people criticizing what's going on?
But when you know about this cold, You realize that Facebook is not only controlled by the cult, it was created by them.
So was Google, which now owns YouTube.
And so what you've got again, as with the big pharma and the regulator, Is you've got the cult-owned Silicon Valley giants and platforms defending the narrative from exposure being put out by the cult-owned World Health Organization, being defended by the cult-owned Silicon Valley giants.
Once you get this connection...
You can see what's going on and predict it so easy.
Yes. So-and-so comes along, oh, they're going to ask permission to go to an age lower.
Yeah, and they're going to get it.
Well, how do you know? Because one half of the part of the cult is asking permission from the other part of the cult.
They're going to get permission, and they do.
So can I ask you about how would you connect?
My mother has been talking about, you know, the vertical for some years.
How would you, and for some listeners who don't know about Vatiko, maybe can you, would you like to explain that a bit and what you see with the connection in this?
Vatiko? Well, when I started uncovering this a long time ago, 30 odd years ago, I started the process.
It became clear pretty quickly that the forces that appear to be Directing the world.
We're not directing the world. There was another force in the background.
And then you realize very quickly that this is not new.
This is not a recent occurrence.
What we're seeing is the point of advancement of it now, but it's not just starting.
So my question was, when did it start?
Because, you know, you can go comfortably back to Babylon and Sumer and Egypt and stuff, and it goes back further than that, but you can pick it up there.
And so I saw, you know, this process of people being born into this cult, working to advance the agenda, the expansion until it became global, and then dying.
And others will come in, and they do it.
Now it's gone. In, out, in, out.
And I thought, well, there's got to be some coordinating force That spans this entire period.
Almost like an organizational field.
That's the common theme throughout.
As people come in, there's something that's spanned the whole time.
And so I started looking around the world, looking for any common theme that would lead me to answer that question.
And I found...
I found very clearly, if you look in the different cultures, the ancient cultures, that the common theme is that some hidden force is manipulating human society.
Obviously, they give it different names, and they give it different symbolism, but when you break it down, they're actually talking about the same thing.
And in the end, you can talk about humans and human manipulation networks.
You can talk about the non-human angle to this, and there massively is one.
That's what's driving it from the hidden.
But in the end, whatever form you may take, What dictates your behavior and your attitudes is consciousness, your state of consciousness.
There's a state of consciousness that we call psychopathic that will do things that non-psychopathic consciousness would never contemplate.
So your consciousness is where it's coming from.
And I broke it down and broke it down and broke it down until I... Came across or came to the conclusion from the evidence that we are looking at a highly inverted chaotic state of consciousness that is in a state of inversion that Basically plays out to create an inverted world.
If you look at the world and you look at how it works, it's all inversion.
Everything. I mean, take these fake jabs, for instance.
We're giving you these jabs to protect your health.
We're giving you these jabs to destroy your health.
So everything's inverted.
And this is why Satanism, which is an expression of this consciousness...
It uses its symbolism in inverted terms.
It inverts the cross. It inverts the pentagram.
It's all inverted.
And it's interesting, and I think very appropriate, that the word evil is the word live written backwards.
Because this state of consciousness is anti-life.
It's anti-love.
For me, evil, my definition anyway, is the absence of love.
And this This consciousness has an absence of love.
And like I say, there are many, many different names that are used, and they're personified in many various ways.
So Christianity talks about the devil and Satan and the demons, the Gnostic people belief system.
It talks about Yaldir Beoth and the Archons, which is a Greek word meaning rulers.
You have the theme of the jinn in Islam, which is manipulation from the hidden.
And so it goes on.
But then I came across this Native American concept or name for this called wotiko.
This is the name used by the Cree tribal people in the United States, but a similar word is used by other tribal groups.
They describe it as like a mind virus.
Now again, when I did this live stream on Saturday, again when I was talking about this, as I did in some detail, I put up a slide, a picture that I'd used in talks way, way back.
In which I was referring to the self-aware virus, the self-aware consciousness virus, which I was likening to a computer virus.
So if you have a computer and you have the operator, then you've got everything you need.
You've got the computer that's directly interacting with the reality we call the internet.
And then you've got the operator who's outside of that, who's working the keyboards and the mouse.
But what happens with a computer virus is it takes over the operating system.
Symbolic, I would say more than symbolic, of five sense mind.
mind.
What some people call the ego, which is equivalent to the computer locking into the Internet, because just as it connects into the Internet and the Wi-Fi, etc., so we are using these human vehicles to interact with this reality.
But it's not who we are, ultimately.
What we are is consciousness.
The consciousness is having the experience.
And so what happens when there's a computer virus?
The operating system is taken over and the operator, symbolic of more expanded levels of our consciousness, not directly interacting with this reality.
It loses control.
It's not communicating anymore.
It's banging the mouse, banging the keys, nothing's happening because the computer virus has taken over the operating system.
And that is basically what Wetiko is.
It's a consciousness that seeks to...
Disconnect expanded states of awareness from the five-sense mind that directly experiences this reality.
Now, if you look back at what I was saying earlier, what is connecting five-sense mind, the human body-brain, to artificial intelligence, except technologically imposing this disconnection?
Wetiko is a very low frequency, low vibrational state of being, which basically resonates to the frequencies of fear and the low vibrational emotional states of resentment, revenge, regret, depression, anxiety.
And so if this Wotiko, via its various expressions, this cult, this Wotiko that's driving this cult, this is why they have no compassion.
If you look at the character traits of a psychopath, right at the top is no empathy.
No compassion. Also, willing to lie for as much as it takes and as big as the lies necessary to get what you want.
Now, you play that out against Gates and the major politicians and a lot of the not major politicians across Fauci, across Whitty, the Chief Medical Officer of England, etc., across the psychopaths that have turned Australia into a fascist state.
Like Daniel Andrews.
You are looking at that psychopathic state of being.
And psychopathic is Wetiko.
That's what Wetiko is.
It's psychopathic. And so, if they can, through the various expressions of Wetiko, structure society and manipulate society to pull people Into those low vibrational emotional states, fear, depression, anxiety, and conflict, revenge, resentment, etc.
Then a vibrational frequency connection can take place.
Do you think this needs to happen?
No, I don't think it needs to happen.
I think that it doesn't have to happen.
And this is why I say to people who are pushing back on this, and that number's getting greater all the time, don't get in To the same vibration that you are seeking to challenge.
I have this phrase I've been using for decades, what you fight, you become.
That's so good.
You become a mirror of its frequency.
Thus, you become what you're fighting.
We've got to keep this energy high.
Because people think that higher states of consciousness open in the heart, talking about love, is a weakness.
It's the ultimate strength.
Because love won't let fear and intimidation stop it doing what it knows to be right.
Love only knows, the heart only knows how to do what it knows to be right.
And it's the ultimate power.
And so you can say no, and you can refuse to cooperate.
No, not doing it, not doing it, without getting pulled away.
Into the anger and fury and resentment and wish to hurt what you are challenging.
If we go down that route, we will become what we are challenging.
And that's why I've been so encouraged by these big marches for freedom.
In London over the months, I've been to most of them, where the energy is like that, you know, apart from, you know, here and there, you might get it, someone, you might ball over now and again, but the vast overwhelming majority that it's about love, it's about laughter, it's about joy, it's about mutual support.
When are you coming to Stockholm to join?
That's the way we need to meet this.
Because when you're operating on that frequency, Wotiko can't get to you.
Exactly. It can't influence you.
And that's the idea.
Once you get pulled into its frequency layer, it starts influencing your responses and your perceptions.
That's what it wants to do.
And it wants to do it technologically through this connection to AI. That's what it wants to do.
That's what it's for.
That's what we see a lot in Australia now, don't you think?
Because there, of course, this has been pushed very hard and gone with it very far, but it's starting to turn from the people's strength and power.
Do you see that?
Oh, yeah. Yeah. And, you know, people say, you know, why aren't more people waking up?
And I say to them, you should have been with me in 1990, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95.
I mean, this is dreamland. The number of people are starting to see that the world's not like they thought it was.
And you know, the great danger point for this cult, and it's very important that people don't think that this cult is all-powerful.
It's not. It's not.
I mean, have you seen Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab and Anthony Fauci.
I mean, you know, they're not brain of Britain, are they?
Or brain of America.
I mean, you know, they're very, very unimpressive people.
And without the backing of the cult, they'd be nobodies.
They wouldn't be doing what they're doing now.
They're doing what they're doing now because they're serving the cult and the cult looks after them.
That's why they're not all-powerful.
This Watico is not all-powerful.
If you are an inversion of love, and love is that in its true sense, that holds this infinity together, then you're not omnipotent, are you?
You're basically, compared with the consciousness of the infinite whole, a bloody village idiot.
So how they've done this is very simple.
There's two worlds in one world.
There's the world of the people and they are strictly limited, unless they go looking for it, in the information they receive.
Not just about where the world is being taken covertly or more and more overtly, but the nature of reality itself.
Because they don't want us to know the true nature of the I. They want us to self-identify with the labels of a human life.
And those labels are all expressions of limitation or the perception of limitation.
But they're not who we are.
They're just what we're experiencing.
I'm experiencing this body now called David Icke, but I'm not David Icke.
This brief experience.
I'm the consciousness. That's expressing itself through what is called David I. And so you've got that suppression of knowledge.
This is why none of this stuff is ever talked about in the schools, etc.
And then you've got the other world, which is the world of the cult.
And there's a network of secret societies.
Why? To keep secrets from the population.
So you've got this hoarding of advanced knowledge that everyone should know about.
And hoarding of the nature of reality and how we interact with it, which everyone should know about.
And the hoarding of knowledge of where they're taking the world, which if everyone knew about it, they'd have a hell of a job comparatively in making it happen if people knew where it was going.
And so you have this massive division between the cult and the population of knowledge And so you could look at this as the equivalent of in the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
So the cult is the one-eyed man, actually very appropriate given what its major symbols is the all-seeing eye.
And what they've had to do for the one-eyed man to be king is to make humanity blind.
And that's why it's desperate, desperate and terrified, I tell you, terrified of humanity waking up to its true self and its true power.
Terrified. Isn't that the good news?
The good news is, I mean, you can see they push, they push, they push.
And it's gossiping about that they're scared, threatened.
Yeah, well, you know, they're not censoring in the hysterical way they are now.
To express their power.
They're expressing their weakness.
Because they know that in an arena with the free flow of information, their agenda's finished.
Yes. It would be exposed.
It would be dismantled.
It would be taken apart.
And you've got a COVID narrative based on a, quote, virus that's never been shown to exist.
And I really do mean that.
It never has. That a child could take apart.
But to stop that happening, you censor it being taken apart in the main public arena.
So I was censored by the major platforms back in the spring of 2020.
The moment I said there is no virus, it's a hoax on that level, all hell broke loose and I was removed from everything.
And because I'd crossed the line, I'd told the real truth.
They absolutely don't want people to realize that actually it's a scam on that level.
And so...
They didn't do that to impose their power on me.
They did that because they were frightened of me.
That's why they did it.
So don't let us think these people are all powerful and all intelligent.
They're not. The two things, their intelligence advantage comes from systematically keeping the population in ignorance.
And their power...
It comes from manipulating the population to give them their power.
You know, a few, and it's a few, I mean, you get this cult in a circle globally in a single room.
A few can't control the many unless the many give their power to the few.
And what's happened, if you look at the whole of human history in this period I'm talking about, it's a story of the same dynamic.
Always the few control the many.
Always, everywhere.
Why? Because the many give their power to the few.
And we have an opportunity now, at last, for humanity to wake up and grow up and stop doing it.
And then they realize where the true power is.
I don't know if you ever saw this, but there was such a telling scene in a movie called A Bug's Life.
An animated movie.
For anyone who's not seen it, you had these grasshoppers, and they were equivalent of the cult.
And they would force or tell this ant colony on this island.
That they had to gather food all year.
Remember this, yeah.
The grasshoppers would come and then take.
Yes. And on one occasion when they came, there was one ant that stood up and questioned this leader.
Why are you doing this?
Why should we do this?
And they flew off.
And the scene I'm talking about was in a tree or something.
It was in their winter quarters.
And they're having a good time and the music's playing.
And they started to, you know, the rank and file grasshoppers.
We've got all the food we need.
Why do we have to go off to the Ant Island again this winter?
There's no need because we've got all the food we need.
And the leader grasshopper hears about this.
And he comes out. And there's a pipe next to him.
And you lift the end of the pipe and a seed will drop out.
And that was part of what they were eating.
And so he says to them, yeah, yeah, no, we don't have to go back to An Island.
We've got all the food we need.
And then he said, hold on, but...
There was that ant that stood up to me.
And one of the rank and file said, yeah, boss, but that's just one ant.
They're puny. And so he takes a seed and he throws it at this guy.
And he said, did that hurt?
He said, no. Are you kidding?
Well, what about this?
Bang! No, are you kidding?
And then he pulls the pipe down.
And all these massive pile of seeds comes down and basically covers them under it.
And then he climbs these seeds.
And he says this, which is exactly the point.
That he said, I had this one ant stand up to me.
He said, if we let one ant stand up to us, they might all stand up to us.
Those ants outnumber us, I don't know what it was, 100, 200 to 1.
And if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life.
Exactly. And that was such an encapsulation of the dynamic that we're talking about in this world.
I mean, Billions went under house arrest through lockdown over the COVID era.
Meekly, overwhelmingly meekly, because they were told to.
And if people are going to do that without question, if they're going to have fake vaccines without even asking what's in them, Then the few are going to control the many.
And when we stop doing it, we'll see where the real power is.
If you open your heart and you start self-identifying your I with what we are, which is consciousness, eternal consciousness, exploring infinity infinitely, Then you don't suffer from this fear that intimidates you into submission.
And you don't need courage because courage is overcoming fear.
If you don't have the fear, you don't need the courage to overcome it.
But for those that are not in that space yet, and everyone can be, it's a choice.
Then it's going to take courage to overcome the fear of the consequences, because if we don't do this and do this in a very short period of time, then we are going to condemn, as you've mentioned a number of times, not only ourselves to a horror world, That would make the Nazi period in Germany look like Mary Poppins.
And I mean that. We are going to condemn the kids for a lifetime in that situation.
We are going to condemn them to having their minds removed, to becoming part of a hive mind in which they think what they're told to think from a central point.
It's literally what they're looking at is the equivalent of a queen bee and a queen ant just dictating to everybody through a hive mind.
This is not just about us as individuals.
This is about everyone.
And, you know, I have been, you know, kind of bewildered, not a little shocked over the years, because I've been doing this a long time, and I've seen people come into this arena, and I've seen them, you know, their star shine for a while, and then I've seen them disappear.
And I've seen them come, and I've seen them go, and I've seen them come, and I've seen them go.
One or two have spent most of the time that I've been in it, but not many.
I've seen them come and I've seen them go.
And why I say I feel bewildered is because if you have any idea what's going on and where this is meant to go, you can't walk away from it.
You can't. You can't walk away from it and walk down the blooming street and see a little kid coming towards you.
You can't sit in a cafe and watch a mother with a baby.
You can't do that and walk away.
I can't anyway.
Because you know what's coming for those kids if we walk away.
And this is a time for running straight at it, not running away.
And how many run at it and refuse to cooperate with it and refuse to obey this fascistic imposition will decide where we go from here.
I mean, if you just look at it very concrete that you think of yourself as energy and the more that you learn how to use it and so on, then you just push away the darkness and the more you stay stable in yourself within your light, you extend to darkness.
And the more we learn Also as a massive together to do.
It's just so easy, actually.
Well, I decided a long time ago, actually 30 years ago, that we're consciousness, we are eternal.
And so I looked at my life from then on.
As a job, to be honest.
I mean, I work seven days a week, every week, because, you know, there's a job to be done, so we need to get on with it.
But I see it as a job, and people say to me, well, you know, what about the rest of your life?
You need other things in your life.
Well, you know, I've got my family and stuff like that.
But some people take this life as a whole, And so they go to work, and then they go home, and that's their chill time.
Okay, that's fine. And they do what they want to do.
I see my life as a job.
When I was born, I came to work.
And when I leave here, I'll go back and have all the other things that...
That are awaiting me.
The fantastic nature of infinity.
But in between, I'm at work.
There's nothing in my life more important than bringing this down.
Because I know where it's going if we don't.
Yes. And like I say, I can't fathom the mentality that can walk away from this with some knowledge of what's going on.
Maybe not that big knowledge, but knowledge of the horror that's coming.
And then get on with her life.
I mean, I can't follow that.
And a lot of people also, I reckon so much of what you're saying, since I'm doing exactly the same, And for me, I also see it that way.
Working with the children, for example, I work a lot with them to encourage them with their fantasy and their mind, for them to see their ability to use the imagination and the light and so on.
And I see it, I mean, my profession is as a clown, but it is the most important work that I do to encourage these children to believe in this and to strengthen themselves.
Within this light.
And when I do my shows, I talk very much to the adults who are also there at the same time.
But for me, as you say, it's a work.
It's deadly important.
We need to save our children, and my life is given for that.
That's who I am and what I need to do.
Well, you work as a clown.
Well, you know, one of the greatest things, one of the greatest joys of being a human or actually being anywhere in infinity is laughter.
I mean, you can't laugh and be frightened at the same time.
No. And when you're laughing, you know, life's joyful, literally joyful.
And it's very important that we laugh because it keeps your vibe up for a start.
But the reason they're targeting the children so viciously and mercilessly all over the world is because they are the adults in the world of the brave new world.
And they're sexually preparing them to be submissive to that world.
And also to see it as kind of the way things are.
And what I mean by that is, when you arrive in the world, you tend to take the way things are as how they are when you arrive and how they are when you were growing up.
So, for example, I was born in 1952, and I grew up in a very different world to this one.
It was one of, you know, quite a lot of austerity on one level, because it was not long after the war.
But it was also a place with no smartphones, with no computers, where you had to use your imagination, what we call play, And where you used to communicate with people directly, you know, in person.
It's the way you did it.
I mean, we never even had a phone until we were into the 1960s in our house.
And so it was a very different way of life.
Now, because of that, I have the perspective of seeing how extreme and controlling that this world has become.
Because I have a radar.
Anyone of that age will have that radar.
But if you're born into this world now, with all the technology and all the surveillance, this is your world.
This is your normal. You don't have that radar, that perspective.
And so what they're doing, this is why they have, and I went into this in the live stream on Saturday in some detail.
This is why in Britain they used a drug called Midazolam and other countries too.
And the American Fauci and that network used a drug called Remdemosphere to literally murder Thousands and thousands and thousands of old people.
I mean, you can document it.
This is not a supposition.
This is a provable fact. And they called this mass murder in the spring of 2020 the first wave of COVID. Because they didn't have a real virus, they had to do many, many things to give the impression that there was one.
And this, for instance, this midazolam, they gave this stuff.
It's an end-of-life drug.
It's used in some American states as part of the execution process.
And Britain bought up massive amounts, years of supply.
And midazolam is used as part of the preparation for an operation.
Well, they stopped operations in Britain in the spring of 2020.
So all this midazolam, none of it was being used basically for operations.
It was being used for end-of-life murder.
And so enormous numbers of old people died as a result of that provable fact.
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And the thing is, what they're seeking to do is to get rid of all those people that have some kind of perspective that this world is not as it was when they were growing up, and therefore they can see, or at least a significant amount can see, the scale of what's going on and how horrific it really is.
They want rid of those people.
And they want to replace them with the young.
This is all part of this depopulation agenda.
That will not have that perspective.
Because they're far more likely to go along with this...
Connecting their brains and their bodies to AI. I mean, you know, an old person's not going to do that because, you know, it's just too, well, 99% anyway, I wouldn't think, because it's too far out for them from what they're used to and what they're, what?
But if you've come in to the world while this is going on, then that's not far out to you.
That's just the next step of technological evolution.
And what they're doing, people like Kurzweil, Is that they're selling it because they've reached the point now, the COVID era was basically, the start of the COVID era was the start of this era.
You can only manipulate under the radar to transform human society for so long because there comes a point where you literally have to transform it in a way that people are going to see it.
Yes. So at that point, you go from hiding what you're doing To selling what you're doing.
Yes. And open their eyes and let's get on with this.
Because, you know, you're going to regret this for your eternity if you don't.
And still it's so easy.
I mean, they are so bombarded with all of this technology and all of this and just put me in the clown uniform and for me to have their attention for one second and they connect instantly.
With that order of magic.
And they just put the other shit down.
And that's the magic.
It's so there.
You've caught their attention in another way.
And you've stimulated something inside them that's being put to sleep.
I've been saying for a long time, this smartphone addiction is underpinned, massively underpinned, By some frequency that's coming off those phones, that actually is affecting the brain, the mind, in a way that addicts them to other phones.
I mean, adults as well as children.
I don't have a phone that's connected to the phone system.
I won't do it.
And funnily enough, somehow I managed to live my life without it, as I did before.
Yeah, which was no problem.
No, no problem at all.
We need to go back to base.
I mean, we need to. We've forgotten who we are, what we can do, and why we are here, so we just need to.
Can I ask you?
I'm not against technology, but technology must serve the interests of humanity.
Exactly. Humanity is not here to serve technology, and that's what's happened, of course.
We're destroying ourselves.
It's going to a tipping point.
It needs to happen because it cannot go on.
So since I'm very much involved in doing these manifestations and demonstrations and so on in Stockholm, Sweden, we are an organization growing bigger now.
So it's in all of the other big cities in Sweden and so on.
I see there is a great impact of that.
And especially when this week, what you were talking about, the power of love and what we're doing when we're doing it and how it expands.
But what do you think Swedish people could more do or so to change the agenda?
I mean, what do you see in Sweden or are we...
Do you have anything to say?
Well, it's not cooperating with it, because it's cooperating with it that allows the few to impose their will.
You know, if a very sizable part of the Swedish population said, no, we're not doing it, Mr.
Government man, then they have no power.
Yeah. It's when people say, well, I don't agree with it and I don't think it's right and it's all, you know, this is about control, but I'll do it anyway.
And this is an interesting thing about this whole COVID era.
It's all psychological.
It's not about health.
Obviously it's not about health. It's about psychology.
That's why the rules and regulations of COVID from lockdown to social distancing and all of it have been driven by psychologists and the masking of people have been driven by psychologists and the masking of people has a massive psychological impact on them.
And A part of that, if you look at the ludicrous nature of the things that we are told to do since the COVID thing started, even as extreme in Australia and Victoria as you can't take your mask off to drink alcohol.
I mean, you know, what they're doing is they are Seeking to delete our dignity and our self-respect.
Because once self-respect's gone, only submission remains.
It's self-respect that's the bulwark against submission.
It's self-respect that says, no, I'm not doing that.
And so it's not that they're trying to hide the ludicrous, non-scientific, intelligence-insulting nature of these regulations.
They want you to see that they're like that.
And I know, you know, over the years, there's been an incredible number of moronic people in positions of authority and political authority.
But I look around the world now, and we're drowning in morons.
I mean, you've got a president of the United States that can't finish a sentence unless it's on autocue.
It's like a bug.
We've got an unbelievably moronic Prime Minister in Britain, Boris Johnson.
It's unbelievable.
Then you've got Macron in France and you've got Daniel Andrews and so many morons in Australia that are driving this.
This is the psychology.
We want you to see they're morons.
We want you to see that what they're telling you to do is ridiculous.
And then we want you to do it anyway.
Because when you do that, we have taken your self-respect, we have taken your dignity, and only submission remains.
And this is why it's, no, I'm not doing that.
You know, since this started, I've not worn a mask once.
Not once. I've not social distanced.
I've not stayed in my bloody home, because they tell me I have to.
And You know, I've spoken at massive rallies in London, like 45,000 people sometimes.
And I've hugged thousands of people when, you know, you're supposed to be social distancing.
I've not had a sniffle this entire time, by the way, because it's very difficult.
I find it's very difficult to get a virus that doesn't exist.
And so it's in your everyday life that you just say no.
Yes. What if vast numbers of people had done that?
It'd be unenforceable.
If there's one or two of you, they can pick you off.
But if there's an enormous number of you...
These marches in London, when they started in the early days of lockdown in the spring of 2020, when they were killing all those old people in Britain, Only a few people were doing it.
And so the police turned up, arrested them, and it was all over.
But then more and more people came.
More and more people and more and more people.
And there were times last summer when hundreds of thousands of people were walking through the streets of London in protest.
And where were the police?
They were standing on the side of the street watching them go by.
Nothing they could do about it.
And the mathematics alone tell you where the answer is.
But for the mathematics to...
Come to bear, first of all, people need to see, if they can't already, God knows why, but there you go, what's going on.
And then they need to refuse to cooperate with what's going on.
Because, you know, the way the few control the many is ever so simple, real simple.
And it absolutely depends on human acquiescence and obedience.
So you've got a pyramid, and at the top of the pyramid is the inner core of this cult, which you get in a single room.
It imposes its will on the level below it.
It acquiesces to that will and imposes it on the level below.
And soon you're leaving that level of the pyramid where they even know there's a cult.
But you're still continuing the same process of imposition of the perceived superior level on the lower level and then the lower levels imposition of that will on the level below them.
And it comes all the way down to the population in general at the bottom of the pyramid.
And if we acquiesce to that level of the hierarchy that's imposing on us, which is governments and law enforcement and health authorities and all that stuff, then we complete a circuit between the few in the one room and the massive global population of imposition and acquiescence, which has allowed the will of a few people in that one room to be imposed on the entirety of the human population.
And that's exactly what we've seen in the COVID era.
Yeah. And we can reverse that today, tonight.
Yes. Stop acquiescing.
And then, you know, one of the things is that, I mean, you know, you've seen the vaccine passports coming in around the world.
And they're all green, by the way, because it's a fusion of the climate change hoax with the COVID hoax.
But they announced in...
In September, in Britain, through another psychopath, a vaccine minister at the time, now he's an education minister, because they're going for the vaccine of the kids, so now he's an education minister, a guy called Zahawi, who is a chairman of an elite secret society called LISEC, or that was in my books in the 1990s.
He's education secretary in Britain, and was vaccine minister through the COVID era.
But he announced that in the House of Commons in London, therefore it was an official announcement, That at the end of September, they were going to bring in vaccine passports.
And then two days later, the health secretary said, actually, we're not going to now.
Now, it's not that they didn't want to, but they didn't think that they could get that through.
With the public mind in the state that it was, they didn't think they could do it.
And the worst thing they could do, they know this too.
Is push something in that they can't get through.
Because that then tells the people where the power is and then they're in real trouble.
They're only going to go with it when they think that they can get away with it.
So the... Again, the health secretary here, a guy called Javid, has just announced today that all staff in our National Health Service medical system are going to have to be fake vaccinated by April, otherwise they're going to get fired.
Now, what they wanted to do Was bring that in now.
That's what they wanted. Yes.
But they didn't think they're going to get away with it.
So now they're saying, April, give them a bit of breathing time.
Give the government a bit of breathing time.
Yes. And so there's many things they want to do in England, and they'll be working to bring them in, no doubt about that.
But the reason they're not doing them now, and they're behind other countries that are doing it, is the level of pushback in the public mind.
And it's staring us in the face.
You know, parents are worried.
I saw a story the other day.
Parents are worried of Biden bringing in a vaccine mandate on kids, which, I mean, Biden's gaga.
It's the people that are controlling him that are doing it.
But, well, if you're worried about your kids having the fake vaccine, then don't let them have it!
Yes, exactly. It's very simple.
It's very simple.
Can I ask you, we're running over time and I'm so thankful for the time that I have.
What do you believe about the vaccinated people transferring or interacting with the unvaccinated?
Is that a problem? How do we get around it?
Well, I think at the very least, initially, after these fake vaccines have been delivered, there is very good evidence that there is a transmission of this stuff onto the non-vaccinated.
I mean, yeah. I mean, I think there's good evidence of that.
I mean, I've seen doctors talking about the fact that Women have had menstrual cycle problems.
After they've interacted with fake vaccinated people, even though they've not had it.
And that if they keep away from fake vaccinated people, then those symptoms tend to die down.
So I think that that's absolutely right.
How long it lasts, well, that's one of many open questions, whether it's indefinitely or whether it's just for a period of time.
But I tell you what, in terms of the fake vax, the people have had it so far, I keep saying, you know, When you reach the point where you realize you've been had, and a lot of people have reached that point now, then, you know, we have not had it.
We welcome you with open arms to Become part of this movement to bring this to an end.
Because, you know, a lot of people, a lot of people, have not had this fake vaccine because they were worried about their health.
They've had it so that they could go about what they perceive to be a normal life.
Yes. So they were told to have the first two and then you'll have your vaccine passport.
And then now they're told three.
They're told four in places like Israel.
And what they're saying is, if you have two or three but don't have the fourth, or you have two and you don't have the third, then you lose your vaccine passport.
So you go back to being isolated from society in exactly the same way as those who have not had it at all.
Now, this is acting as a wake-up call.
For people like the double jab, for instance.
Because, hold on a minute, you told me, have this thing, and then back to normal, I've had it, and now you're telling me it's not.
So, what they've been doing all through this, and I've been documenting this, and saying this is coming next, because they're nothing if not predictable, is that they lie Yes.
Yes. This is a transformation of the human form for those that survive, and it's a mass depopulation for those who don't.
And they intend to have this continuous state of vaccination, fake vaccination.
So you can pull out at two and think, well, I'm not going any further, or you can pull out at four, but they're going to keep coming.
They're going to keep coming until we won't have them.
Exactly. It's up to every single one of us to come to a point where we say no.
And it's going to catch up with every single one of us until we do.
And it doesn't matter if it is before the 1st or the 2nd or the 3rd or the 33rd.
That's the whole point.
We all need to get to that point.
And those that have been jabbed because they thought, well, I better do this to continue a normal life and keep doing that.
They are furious, obviously.
Well, you would be. They're absolutely furious that they've been tricked.
That's exactly what's happened.
They've been tricked because they're dealing with liars.
And, you know, if people were trickier through lies, well, they're going to go on lying to you.
It's who they are. And people that have the third booster and they'll have the fourth booster, I mean, they must surely have lost the capacity for free thought to keep going with this.
Sooner or later. Those who are furious and absolutely right to be furious, then that anger needs to be turned into determination so that they can join us and let's bring it up.
And I believe that that is what's happening and what is going to happen and that is at least a positive thing out of the whole thing, I believe.
Thank you so much, David.
This has been so interesting.
Thank you so much for your valuable time.
You have your latest book, obviously.
Would you want to say something about that or what you're up to, what's going on with David Icke?
Yeah, well, I've just done this live stream.
It's available on iconic.com.
It's seven hours pulling the whole thing together and across many, many different subjects, all of which connect.
And I've got a new book out called Perceptions of a Renegade Mind, which is going down really well.
And a renegade mind, what's that?
A renegade mind doesn't just critically think.
It It acts upon what it's critically worked out.
So you get critically thinking people who maybe can see some of what's going on, but they still cooperate with it because they fear not doing so.
A renegade mind would never do that because actually it's a renegade heart, really.
You see what's going on and you say, well, I'm not cooperating with it under any circumstances.
That's a renegade mind in my definition.
And we need that.
We need that seriously badly.
And in a couple of days, I'm going to start writing another book, which is to do with very specific areas that life is forever and death is an illusion and all that stuff.
Lots of things that go out from that.
There's so much to know about the The reality we're experiencing at the multidimensional level of it.
That I'm going to explore all that in this new book.
Very interesting. We're very much looking forward to that.
When is that going to be?
Well, I hope that I'm going to ride it through the winter and it will be out late summer, I hope.
Wow. Looking forward.
Thank you so much, David.
If you ever come to Sweden, come join us in I love Sweden.
I've been there so many times over the years.
Yeah, I never met you in person.
Going back to when, you know, Sweden was a very different place.
What would it be, 1990s?
And interestingly, you know, even when it was very difficult to generate interest, there was always significant interest in my talks in places like Stockholm.
I put a spot for Sweden.
I love Sweden a lot.
Are you by any chance going to Denmark for the conference there with Dolores Cahill?
And when is that? It's like 26?
I'm not going there. I'm not really a conference person, to be honest.
I've found my own furrow.
Okay. Well, I need to take my house to England and for to be able to hug you in one of these manifestations.
That would be nice. Thank you so much, David, for your time.
Okay, thank you.
Bye.
The list might be more complex.
The coronavirus pandemic started in China.
The coronavirus pandemic started in China.
The virus never hit the country.
Stage 1 you create a problem.
It could be a manufactured virus.
You want a reaction and you want them to either say, do something, or you want them to accept what the authorities suggest must be done.
So one of the agendas is to massively cull the population.