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Nov. 5, 2021 - David Icke
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Right Now - Gareth Icke Talks To David Icke & Jaymie About How Conspiracy Theories Are Now Fact
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Hello, I'm here at the Iconic Studio preparing for my live stream on Saturday.
Starts at 11am on Saturday morning, UK time.
And it's called, Where From Here?
And I think there's a few people in the world at the moment asking that question.
Yeah, where from here?
Especially those that can see at least some of what is actually going on as opposed to what we're told is going on which is just a pack of the usual garbage and lies.
So I hope you can join me. 11am it starts on Saturday UK time and it's in three sections and between the sections there's lots of other information that's going to be played.
There's a A series I've done and it's about to be broadcast and iconic.
It's about the nature of reality.
It's a 13-part series.
And the first edition of that will be played in one of the breaks on Saturday.
So there's tons of information.
We really do need to answer this question.
Where from here? On the show this week, it's Iconic's second birthday.
Me, my dad David and my brother Jamie will be in the studio for a discussion about the alternative media, about conspiracies and the mad state of the world right now.
Cathy O'Brien and Maria Farmer will be talking to us from America.
Cathy went public 25 years ago about the American government's MKUltra Mind Control Program.
And Maria was the first to go to the FBI back in 1996 about Jeffrey Epstein.
They'll tell us what it was like being the original whistleblowers on two of the world's biggest cover-ups and what their
lives been like since it happened.
Music.
Often teenagers, if they had an older sibling, may have liberated a little bit of booze from
their brother or sister's stash.
Always careful, of course, to top the bottle up with water so no one would notice that any was missing.
Not considering, of course, how the lack of taste would be just a bit of a giveaway.
The so-called elites seem to be using this very technique right now.
The bottle of COVID is running dry, but fear not, we can always top it up with climate change.
No one will notice, because no one can taste anyway, because of COVID. But as COP26 kicked off in Glasgow, many among us have noticed that vodka is tasting distinctly watery.
All the same faces pushing for the deletion of freedom and destruction of livelihoods to fight a virus are now the ones pushing for the same, but in the fight against human-caused climate change.
Like a cheap wine bar magician, the sleight of hand actually isn't that convincing.
But where many have been sucked into the misdirection, they can't see it.
Apart from the hypocrisy of the world's wealthiest people flying in on private jets or in AT vehicle motorcades while telling you not to leave your TV on standby, the most telling line for me came from our very own Boris Johnson.
The Milky Bar kid that is neither strong nor tough said, I'll be asking world leaders to take action on coal, cars, cash and trees.
Cash. That's subtle that, Boris.
The media didn't pick up on it, of course, but then they tend not to pick up on most things.
But the people did. And they're also picking up on other things as well.
The number of deaths and heart attacks of sports men and women is going through the roof.
I shared several in my telegram just from the last couple of weeks alone.
So too is the number of children that are suddenly dying.
Obituaries from head teachers are sent out to parents on a daily basis now.
Does anyone out there remember a time when kids just suddenly died, regularly, in this number?
The media are reporting these stories, at least the local media, but they're not addressing the elephant on the coffee table.
The public aren't as stupid as they would like us to think, and we're at a point now where people's lived experiences are far outweighing the repeated slogans of, it's safe and effective.
The anti-lockdown blueticks are struggling to comprehend why there hasn't been a halt to the rollout.
Why are children being harmed like this?
Why is no one doing anything?
Because it's intentional.
We're dealing with psychopaths.
You can't on one hand acknowledge the prevalence of paedophilia within the establishment and then expect the establishment to protect your children.
They don't care about your children and they don't care about you.
At this point I can't help but surmise that we are looking at a mass ritual sacrifice.
And as much as people would not like to acknowledge that, I think it's where we are.
Only by understanding the level of evil that stands before us can we even begin to contemplate defeating it.
Many are starting to wake up to this though.
If there's one thing to take as a positive from the last two years, it's that their desperate attempt at a great reset has inadvertently led to a great awakening.
Some, of course, will still chant conspiracy theorists at you, but it holds no weight as a slur anymore.
A conspiracy theory last week is nothing more than a spoiler alert for next week.
On the show today, we'll be looking at those conspiracies that people two years ago would have thought that was far out.
But honestly, what is far out anymore?
So on that note, our first guest tonight is, well, is me.
Well, me, my dad and my brother.
Today is Iconic's second birthday.
And earlier we got together in the studio to talk about the state of the world and what we can do to change it.
But before that my brother Jamie went back to where Iconic first began.
Today is two years since we launched the Iconic Media Channel.
And to show you the progression, I'm going to take you for a little tour of our old and original studios before we give the keys back today.
So let's go and have a look.
So this was our original main office space.
So we first started, I sat over here.
You had Gareth sat here next to me.
You had Gina over there in the corner.
You wouldn't even fit half of our team in this room now.
So let's go upstairs and we'll show you what our first studio looks like.
So this was the podcast room.
So if you recognise this, this was draped the whole way around.
So this would have been the room that Gareth used to do the dot connector with David every Friday.
We did the non-binary elephant podcast here.
We had the TV on the wall.
This is our little green screen, which we did a few series in here.
We did the Richard Grannon series, we did the David Holt series, the program.
We did all those from this little room here, which, given the size of it, is not a bad achievement.
So now I'm going to take you over to our new studios, which is the other side of the city, and you'll see what your support has enabled us to be able to do in such a short period.
Right, here we are at our new studios.
I found a little friend on the way, this is my little boy Travis, who is here, 18 months old today.
Here's a few bits and pieces of stuff that we've made, this being the first major feature we did.
This is my office, our podcast room in here, and this is Christiana.
Yeah? You gonna run off?
Come on then. So yeah, this is our main office space now.
So we've got our content and marketing team, customer service, finance, and at the end there you've got the two development guys.
Someone want to keep an eye on Travis?
I think he's trying to escape out of the fire escape.
Here is the gallery.
So this is our control room.
On this side of the room it's all studio one, this side of the room it's studio two.
I'll take you into what you'll have seen on the shows.
This is the main newsroom in the Right Now studio.
This is our normally green screen room.
So we've black draped over the green and rubbed over the green floor to make this into our live event space, which we're going to be using for the David Icke event tomorrow.
As you can see, it's a hell of a difference to where we started out.
And as I say regularly, none of this will be possible without your support and your continued, you know, Appreciation for what we're doing and we appreciate you greatly for your support and hopefully that continues and we can move and go onwards and upwards.
So thank you very much. It's been a great two years so far and here's to many, many more.
I'm joined in the studio by my dad and by my brother.
It's been two years since the inception of Iconic.
So this goes to you, Jay.
You formed Iconic. You're the chief exec.
What is it like running an alternative media platform at a time when alternative theories and news are being censored?
It's really tough. I mean, we launched two years ago, so pre-COVID, and we had a kind of vision of which direction the channel was going to go, and it was going to go very kind of news and health and wellness and so on.
And then bang, within three or four months, all this has happened, which has driven a lot of people to look at alternative information.
So that's probably put a lot of eyes on the channel earlier than we probably expected, which has been really good in terms of being able to grow.
And as the viewers can see, the studio compared to how it was when we first started.
But it's really challenging when you compare it to other businesses that have access to all these tools like Google Ads, Facebook Ads, YouTube Ads and ways to reach people that we just don't.
For us it's very much word of mouth and having to be better than other people that are doing similar stuff, which there is very few now.
I think what was very, very important is having your own player, your own system, because all those people that have built their followings and built their things on YouTube, when they go, they've lost everything.
And that's obviously been one of the keys with Dad over the years, is having the website, the books, the events, not just a YouTube channel.
So when YouTube went, it wasn't the end of the world.
It was a loss, but it wasn't the end of the world.
And I think that's why We started Iconic, I said earlier in the week, I feel like we're like the nuclear bunker in the sense of when everything else goes, unless someone comes in with a baseball bat, they're not going to be able to take us down in the same way they've been able to take it down, other people, mainstream channels.
So it's a challenge, but it's been good fun because it's two steps forward, one back, but you're always moving forward and people seem to be liking what we're doing, so it's good.
But you've touched on it there then, with the influx of people coming since the Rona.
Do you feel almost in a way that it was destiny?
Because obviously the idea for the channel was set up before this whole thing happened.
But it does feel like it was meant to be in that sense.
Yeah, to an extent. Like, obviously I've run and been around stuff with you and Dad for years and a few things happened through those years previous to start on Iconic and it always felt like we've had this idea but it Something's happened to get in the way too early.
So for example, we had an issue a few years ago on Dad's site with a payment gateway deleting the channel, which we were about to move away from anyway, but it went just before we were about to move it, and various different things like that.
And it kind of felt like it was the opposite with Iconic.
We started it just before we needed to start it.
Aiming to start it the summer of 2020, for example.
We'd have sat in March going, what are we going to do?
We're not going to be able to do this, not going to be able to do that.
Whereas because we had that foundation already, it was March 2020 when the business basically grew 100% and 120%.
Pretty much in the space of a week around the period that Dad was doing the London Real interviews and it was, right, okay, this isn't a hobby now, this is something big.
This is something we can actually build into something.
So, it does feel like it's destiny, absolutely.
Well, those London Real interviews, you watch them back now, and even I, like you said, Jay, we've been involved in this for years, but even I look back on that and I just think, my goodness, this is insane, what you're saying then and then what's happened.
But also, what you've been saying for 30 years is coming to fruition, and so many people are waking up to it, which I think is also a reason why people are interested in what Iconic is about and what it's got to say.
We went out onto the streets of Nottingham and we actually asked people that were doing their shopping what they thought of conspiracy theories, and this is what they said.
Basically, conspiracy theories are seriously screwing up our planet.
We've got... We had big tobacco.
I'm a smoker, so I'm aware of the problems from that.
But tobacco basically said, no, there's no harm with this, it's actually good for you.
Big oil is currently doing exactly the same for climate change.
You've got all of the anti-Covid nuts just completely screwing up our world, so...
Yeah, I've got a lot of very, very strong opinions on this.
I don't think everything's true, what they tell us.
What the government tells us? Yeah, definitely not.
I don't think they can. I don't think they're allowed to tell us the truth, which is quite annoying.
They keep telling the truth, but no, I don't think it is.
I just don't. I just don't.
I've got friends that do, but I don't believe in it.
They believe in all sorts of things.
Aliens dropping things from the sky and all sorts of things, but no, I don't believe in it.
But you're still friends with them?
I am. I am.
I am. But what can I do?
Bush did 9-11.
I believe that. I believe in, like, lizard people.
Aliens. Aliens, I feel like they actually exist, you know?
I believe that there's aliens, and the government isn't saying anything about that, because we can be the only beings in the universe.
So, that is a conspiracy theory I believe in.
Have you ever heard the word reptilians?
Yeah, I have. What do you think about that?
Ah, that's a tricky one still, you know.
So I'm not too sure about that one.
But otherwise I do believe that there is aliens.
Doctor Who. If there wasn't stuff like that in Doctor Who, people probably wouldn't have thought about it in real life.
So it's like betrayed in TV and then brought into real life.
I think some of it might be a bit of truth and then some of it's a bit far-fetched.
What kind of stuff is far-fetched?
I think the things like reptilian people and the moon landing being fake might be a bit far-fetched.
I do think things like GFK might be real.
Anonymous were a big thing at one point.
And I still believe in stuff like that.
Even though they're, like, more laid down now, like, when they were such a big thing, I believed in that and stuff like that.
But I believe there is, like, one massive government that no-one knows about other than Members of Parliament and stuff like that that people know about.
Well, conspiracies, they've been going on since the beginning of time.
The Bible was a conspiracy, yeah?
Some of it was truthful. Some of it was a lie from the beginning.
So, of course, there's a few naysayers in there, but generally people seem to be waking up to conspiracies.
Do you feel that you've noticed that in the last couple of years, that people are more open to stuff now?
Oh, big time. And, you know, I see things a little bit different to those that have come later to this arena, because I understand what they're saying.
Why don't more and more people wake up?
But they should have been with me in 1991, 92, 93, 94, 95 and onwards when it was one heck of a job just to get anyone to look at this information.
And so for me what's happening now is dreamland.
Because the number of people now who are opening their minds to other possibilities is fantastic compared with how it used to be, I can tell you that.
And, you know, in the end, you can do the some time over the rainbow stuff.
Like I have been doing for 30 years.
Look, this is the plan.
This is what they want to introduce.
This is where they want to go.
They want to create global fascism, etc.
But then when it goes, hello, then it concentrates the mind of people.
And so instead of it being some kind of projection, It's in the here and now, and it's easy to dismiss a, this is coming, oh yeah, alright mate, yeah, you're mad. But when it's here, it's much more difficult to dismiss it.
I mean, lots of people can, of course, because they don't want to face what's actually happening.
But lots and lots of people have gone, hold on a minute, the world's not like I thought it was.
And it's got people to To see that the forces they thought and the powers they thought were running this world and to what end is actually nothing like they thought it was.
And this is the thing. Once the first domino's gone, the next one goes, the next one goes.
And what I mean by that is, well, the world's not like I thought it was.
I mean, look at what's going on.
And the next question is, so what the hell else is not like I thought it was?
The dominoes start to fall.
And as those dominoes start to fall, people become more and more open to more and more, if you like, far-out possibilities that they would have, and did, dismissed with a wave of the hand before.
Yeah, I think also, because that was what I was going to lead on to in my next question, is obviously the bit that people tend to struggle with, with what you've said over the years.
You talk about the banking system, foreign wars, and all this stuff.
People are like, yeah, I get that. Yeah, I can go along with that.
It's the reptilian stuff.
It's the lizard stuff. I can't get my head around.
Now, obviously, after the last couple of years, like you say, you've knocked down all these dominoes, and I've heard people say it, like, do you know what?
I think he could be right about that now.
And so to see the story in the mainstream, I think it was about two weeks ago now, where the princess of Norway, her boyfriend, who I believe is a shaman, It's come out and said that he was a reptilian hybrid and that that's where they met originally in a different realm and that's why when they met at some kind of event it was almost like they knew each other and then they got together and stuff.
That's in the mainstream news and the most telling point from that was the fact that she confirmed it and said as well that yeah that's why we hit it off immediately.
That would have seemed insane.
Yeah, I'll tell you what I found very telling about that article, which was in the mainstream, is they didn't mention me.
Because they have used my...
what I've said about the fact that behind all this is a reptilian race, and other non-human races too, but dominated by the reptilian.
And that's what's driving this agenda from the hidden.
Of course, that to mainstream society is so far out that the ridicule potential is almost limitless, and that's what they did.
He's crazy, he's crazy, he's mad, oh he's a lizard man, oh yeah!
And then, as more and more starts to come out, and more and more people think, well hold on a minute, maybe, maybe, just maybe, they stopped associating me with that.
You know what I mean? It's like, oh, don't give him credibility.
You can't say he was right about that, you know.
And so I thought that was very telling.
And the thing is that I would say is...
I mean, I wrote about the reptilians for the first time in The Biggest Secret, which was 1997, I wrote it.
And then another one, Children of the Matrix, which came out in 2001.
And, you know, people look at what I said in the books and the talks over all these decades and is now happening.
Well, I can tell them the same forensic research, the same skeptical research that went into pointing out that what is here with us now was coming, went into the whole reptilian thing.
I'm not a kamikaze pilot.
I only crossed the line to talk about something when the evidence has reached a point that to dismiss it would be ludicrous.
And what is happening, Gaz, is of course if you said to people in early 2020 even That what was going to happen in the world up to this point now was going to happen, they'd have laughed at you, right? So what it's done is teased open minds to say, well, actually, maybe we shouldn't dismiss things on face value.
Maybe we should have a look at this.
And so what's happened is, as they've tried to get a grip and a grasp on what is this all about, And then the big question, why is this agenda in all its forms so anti-human?
Why are they demonizing the gas of life, CO2, without which we'd all be dead?
Why are they trying to change human DNA so they're transforming the human genetic nature?
Why are they attacking fertility?
Why are sperm counts plummeting?
Why is female fertility being targeted with these jabs?
Which are also of course targeting human genetics.
Why is it that 5G at 60 GHz interacts with the oxygen molecule to make it more difficult for the body to absorb oxygen?
And on and on and on and on.
Why is it so anti-human?
And then you say, well, what if the force behind it wasn't human?
Wouldn't that start to make sense?
And because of what's happened in the COVID era, instead of going, oh, no, no, no, no lizard people, they're going, well, actually, I can see why you're saying that now.
And, you know, when you get...
you get you get these these these themes and someone well actually someone did send me I saw it on RT it was this film put out by the UN to promote you know change the world through climate change which is what climate change is all about changing the world and it was a gigantic lizard Walking into the main chamber at the UN and going to the podium and delivering this lecture on why humans should change the world to save themselves from extinction.
Brackets utter nonsense.
And then, what was really telling for me was, at the end of the little speech, all the delegates of the UN, symbolically from around the world, all gave this big giant reptile a round of applause.
Now, if people think that's an accident, that they chose that theme, then a fully paid up membership of Naivety Anonymous might be appropriate.
They always tell us what they're doing.
I always find that. I don't know if they get off on it, like they're trolling you.
The vampire has to be invited in.
Yeah, it's very much like that.
There are lots of theories out there about different things, and there's one that makes me laugh, and me and Jay talk about it regularly, is the fact that we're all Freemasons, but we're not just Freemasons.
I'm also a woman. You're a woman, Jay.
Yeah, but that bit's true.
The Freemason bit is not true.
Yeah, they said you have wide child-birthing hips.
It's hard to disagree. Yeah, I do have wide hips, thanks.
I did laugh. I did laugh.
The picture of me and Travis, my son, with something like that can't be his kid.
It was a bit... That's a bit harsh, yeah.
That's a bit harsh.
But the Freemason stuff, because I've gone back to some of these people and I've said to them, you know, like, what is your evidence for this nonsense?
And they seem to show the same picture, so hopefully we can show them now.
There's one picture where they say this is of Ride on the Isle of Wight, Ride Lodge, and this is you with them.
with them. It's a dreadful Photoshop, so we see that.
But actually this photo is from somewhere up north, isn't it, Dad, I think?
So if you can show the original now.
Right, so you see just how bad a Photoshop this is.
That's amazing, that. I mean, I'm not the best at Photoshop, but that's particularly bad, even for me.
My favourite is this one, though.
Because Dad is the happiest Freemason in this one.
This is a great picture.
That's straight off one of my books, isn't it?
That head. The head is.
Yeah, they just put it on. That's great.
But of the images that they show, there is one which is genuine.
And you were sat in the, I want to say the Grand Wizard's chair, but I don't know if that's...
The Worshipful Masters, I think they call it, something like that.
That's it. Yeah, I mean, that was funny.
And, you know, when I see them using it to say this is evidence he's a Freemason, it's almost hysterical.
What happened is, a long time ago now, I was speaking in Boston, Massachusetts.
Now, I knew Boston, Massachusetts had a big Freemasonic Lodge.
I want to go down and see it. So I went down with about maybe three others, and I wanted to see the symbolism on the side, which there was symbolism.
And we stood there, and the door was open, right?
So we had a look inside, and there was this big, enormous kind of Opening hall and down the right hand side it was all like glass cabinets and I saw Walt Disney's mentioned in there.
I saw the Jack Malay Society which Bill Clinton was a member of and we looked across to the reception I think it was over there and there was no one there.
So I thought we'll keep walking, see what happens.
So we walked across this hall, nobody.
Then there's this big like grand staircase at the end going to the next floor.
We walked up that and we were looking at each other because where is everybody, right?
And in this whole time we were in there, we met one guy and he seemed to be to do with some building work or something.
So we walked on the first floor and eventually came to this big door.
Two doors. Pushed them open.
And we're in this big temple, right?
With the twin pillars and all the garbage that they have.
And there's the worshipful master's chair.
So what am I going to do?
I'm in my anorak.
I'm not in my regalia. I'm in my anorak.
I've just come off the street. So I sat in the chair and I did it that.
And I used that.
I was trying to hide it, you see.
Because I didn't want anyone to know I was a Freemason.
So I used it in my talks around the world for about two years.
And it always got a great laugh, of course, because of the irony of me sitting in the working master's chair doing that.
I didn't roll my trouser leg up, though.
I'm supposed to do that, I think. But it's funny.
And it's pathetic.
But it's also sad.
Because I see people in the alternative arena, or they think they are, who are telling people to wake up.
They've got to wake up. Why can't you see it?
And yet they are saying, Ike's a Freemason and you're a Freemason, whatever, with no evidence whatsoever and just believing it.
And, you know, when you're in any way streetwise, What you say is the question that people need to ask all the time.
Who benefits? Who benefits from me believing what whatever it is, whoever it is, is telling me?
So let's apply it to this.
This guy's been doing this for 31 years.
He's taken enormous abuse and ridicule year after year, decade after decade.
To expose a cult, a global cult, that didn't want exposing.
Obviously it didn't, that's why it operates in secrecy.
Who has exposed the methods of mass psychological manipulation that allow them to advance their agenda.
That's exposed what that agenda is, which has turned out not to be a diversion, but actually to be true, because that's what's happening now.
And then websites appear and personalities appear and they say you know that guy who's done all that he's controlled opposition he's a Freemason right and there's one website that's stuck because I don't look at this stuff very much but someone sent me a website and it's actually targeting not just me you Jay and every major figure in the alternative media in this country and even further afield I think To demonize them and to seek to discredit them.
So let's come back to the question.
Who benefits from that?
Well, obviously it's that which they are exposing.
Who benefits from that?
So what the street wise do is they ask that question and they looked at this website and they look at these people who are putting this stuff out with no evidence and they say, hold on a minute.
Who are you? Why are you doing this?
Who are you connected to?
Why are you doing things that benefit that which you claim to oppose?
So, who's the real controlled opposition?
And this is what people who are aware of how this thing works do, and that's why the vast majority of people, you know, just don't believe this nonsense, of course, because it is nonsense.
But then you've got these people that just believe it because they've heard it.
You know, you get people who won't come on this show to promote Their view and what they're doing because Ike's a Freemason.
Well I'm not! You know what I mean?
And by the way if you're going to accept that without question and no evidence then maybe we should look at what you're saying about other things in another light because you're obviously not forensic in your research and this is a period of course when the whole alternative media Is being demonized by the system and censored by the system.
Why would the system not want to demonize them, not only in the eyes of the general population, but why wouldn't they also want to demonize them in the eyes of those that can see, so that they don't have the same impact that they normally would?
These are the questions that need asking.
And when you ask them, Then some very different answers might come along, like, who are these people?
Some of them will be idiots, of course, but not all of them will be.
Okay, final question then.
This is to you, Jay, but I guess this is to you as well, Dad.
So, from what I see, the way to win this is through unity, bringing people together and kind of knocking down fault lines in any sort of divisions they have.
What do you think we can do to achieve that, and what do you think Iconic's role could be in that?
Well I think yeah bringing people together is the key and last point on what you've just been speaking about there is if anyone that has any access to any evidence that any of those things are true you're welcome to come on right now completely uncensored at any point.
I'm not doing it naked to prove I'm a bloke.
To go forward because it would be you know I wouldn't want to hear what they've got to say.
I think the key is that we need to get across to people that it starts with you, it starts at home, it starts with the person in the mirror, it sounds really kind of that motivational speech but that kind of, it's got to start with you, you've got to want to stand up for yourself and so many people that have not in the last couple of years that have just gone along with things for an easy ride, I think we're at the point now that Nothing's an easy ride, to be honest.
Whether you've, you know, gone along with it, whether you've worn your mask, whether you've locked down, whether you've been vaccinated, whether you haven't, no one's having an easy ride at the moment.
There's no, you know, no one's having a life that's enjoyable.
No one's going on holiday and seeing their friends and doing all those things that they were doing two years ago.
So I think there is a massive opportunity for people that probably would have not, you know, seen other people as allies or not seen other people as people they'd relate to, to come together.
And we see that at the protests that we've been to.
I mean, you guys have been to a lot more than me, but there's all walks of life.
There's people that go on their own. There's people that go with people that don't, you know, they're not known that long.
And there's groups and communities that have formed through things like Stand in the Park and Rebels and Roundabouts and stuff like that that has brought Different factions of people together.
I think we've just got to keep plowing on with that and I think Iconic's place is going to be to provide hope and to provide motivation and empowering information to people that this is a war we're going to win and obviously we've got plans in the new year to launch.
Some more shows like Right Now that go out every week that are going to be, you know, solution-based, highlighting these grassroots activist groups and things that people can do in their local areas to try and build communities and, you know, take back their own control.
Would you echo that?
Oh absolutely and you know when Jay came to me with the idea and said I've got an idea to do this I thought well that's that's a great idea and my motivation to support him because you know he's he's just done it all I'm not crying credit for it at all is that we could see as you could see this censorship coming and it was going to get worse and worse and worse and so to create something like Iconic has been as Jamie said earlier with our own ability with our own server everything has been absolutely essential it's okay reacting to things but the best way is to see them coming and get in there first which is what Iconic did And two things.
I think that as more and more jabs are sought to be enforced upon people to keep the vaccine passport that they're desperate to bring in.
It's only a question of when can we think we're going to get away with it.
That more and more jabbed people who will then, if they don't take the extra jabs, go back to a situation in terms of interaction with society, which will be the same as people who haven't had any.
I think they are, and I think it's already happening, they are going to be very angry.
They're going to be furious and arms out.
You're welcome to come and join us.
And the other thing I would say, I wrote in books a long time ago, decades ago, that the plan was to create a situation in which no one, anywhere in the world eventually, ever saw anything or heard anything that wasn't agreed to and supported by the system and the authorities.
So we're not going to see the censorship go away.
We're going to see it attempt to get fiercer.
And there is an unbelievably fascist, beyond-fascist bill going through Parliament in Britain called the Online Safety Bill, which is said to be about protecting children from, quote, harm.
What it is, is a massive, massive attempt to destroy the alternative media by Imposing major fines for telling the truth.
And the fascist organisation, because that's what it is, started by Tony Blair, that's how fascist it is, called Ofcom, the Office of Communications in Britain, which is the government broadcast censor.
Not regulator, censor.
He's going to be given power to oversee this law which they want to bring in.
And it's going through Parliament now.
So there are many challenges on the road and what we need is the support of the people to make sure that not only can we continue but that we grow and prosper and get more and more influential.
I'm sure we're going to in terms of Challenging this agenda which is based on lies because that's what they're doing.
They can't tell us the truth because there'd be a revolution.
So they have to lie to us.
And the only way they can protect the lies is to censor the lies being exposed, which is what all the censorship is about.
Don't let anyone fall for the idea that this censorship is an expression of the power of this cult.
It's the expression of its weakness, because it knows that if they had the free flow of information, it's games up.
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