The Truth About 'Covid' - David Icke Talks To Leila Melki
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David, David, welcome!
So excited to have you on board with me.
Yeah, how are you?
It's been a bit of a rush.
Because I had this interview down for a few hours from now.
That's okay. But I was informed I was sitting there.
So there was dust and paper flying everywhere.
Oh, look, that's okay.
I forgive you. I forgive you.
We have been, I've been receiving so many messages from everybody.
Are you on yet? Are you on?
I'm like, Guys, we're almost there.
We're almost there. But I'm so excited to have you here.
Welcome to episode number 35, everybody, A Real Talk with Leila.
We have the amazing David Ike, one of my biggest inspirations of truth.
Thank you so much for joining, David.
It's a pleasure. Looking forward to it.
How are you doing? Let me ask you first.
How are you? I'm all right, you know.
I've been doing this for 31 years now, so it's nothing new to me, really.
I mean, obviously the extremes that it's gone to is different, but that was always going to happen.
It was going to have to get really bad before enough people saw that we need to do something about it.
Because I've been doing it for such a long time, I see things slightly differently to the people who are in any way recently new to this.
Because people say there's not enough people waking up.
To what's happening?
Well, they should have been with me in 1990, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, onwards and onwards and onwards, when you couldn't whip up enough enthusiasm about this information to, you know, to fill in a phone booth.
And so this nightmare situation that's What has unfolded since the turn of the COVID era has actually also had positive benefits in that a lot of people, vast, vast numbers of people from all walks of life I've started to realize that actually the world that they thought they lived in is not the world they live in.
And the forces in control of it are not the forces they thought were in control of it and calling the shots.
So there's been a lot of good things happening, but of course it's taken this extreme experience to bring that out in a lot of people.
But that's the way life is, you know.
It gives you experiences to...
To wake you up from the various misunderstandings that we have.
And like I say, a lot of people, far, far more people than before, realize that actually there is a conspiracy.
This is the word you're not supposed to use, but it's the word we should be using all the time.
There is a conspiracy, a concerted, covert conspiracy Less than covert for many people now, but a covert plan going way back to turn human society into a beyond Orwellian state, and more and more people could see it, which gives you a lot of encouragement, because if that had been with me, like I say, in the early days, there was very, very little interest in this.
It was just some conspiracy somewhere over the rainbow, but now it's here.
Absolutely. You know, that's actually going to be one of my biggest questions.
It's one of the most common questions because I put out a question out the other day on Facebook to say, hey guys, before I interview David Icke, are there any questions you'd like me to ask him besides the kind of conversation that I want to have?
And because I want this really to be a conversation with you, not an interrogation or an interview, so to speak, more a real talk.
But there is one question in particular that That is on everybody's lines.
How are we going to get out of this?
By reversing how we got into it.
You know, you can look for solutions or you can seek to remove the cause of the problem.
And if you remove the cause of a problem, then the problem must disappear.
And the alternative is finding solutions to problems which, if you look at human history, usually lead to more problems in need of more solutions.
So, what's the problem?
Let's look back at human history.
How is it that in every single culture, in every religious setting, in any non-religious setting, in any area of the world and history, One dynamic has always been the same.
The few have controlled and dictated the lives of the many.
And mathematically, that is insane.
Mathematically, that should be impossible because the few cannot control the many.
If the many won't cooperate, it's not possible.
You look at the human race now, closing in on 8 billion people.
Okay, now you take the level of this cult, this global cult that I call it, that's behind all this, that's in the know, that knows what it's doing and where it wants to go.
Then add to that all the bloody people in administration of government and health organizations and all these different institutions who are not in awareness of what they're playing a part in.
They don't even know there is a cult.
They don't even know there is some coordinated culture.
Game, some coordinated plan to enslave the human race.
If they can't see it now, when will they?
And then you go to law enforcement and you go to the military and you add all those numbers together.
The inner core, the gophers, the law enforcement, the military, all of that.
And take that away from the eight billion.
And you're still left with an enormous number of people being manipulated directly or through being told to enforce it by a tiny, tiny, tiny ratio.
Of the global population.
Now that is the dynamic.
That's the mathematics. And that is the problem.
Because all the way through human history, right to this moment, two kinds of perception have allowed the few to control the many.
One, that which looks to authority to tell it what to think.
That has conceded its right to come to its own conclusions.
To process information into a unique conclusion.
It's given up that right.
It just does what it's told without question.
And then you've got the other group that doesn't want to do it.
They can see at least some of the Some way through it, what they're being told.
But they are frightened of not doing it.
Because they say, well, I don't really want to do this.
I don't want to wear these face nappies, these face diapers.
I don't really want to not see me granny.
I don't want to do any of these things.
I don't want to be sitting at home under house arrest.
But I fear the consequences of challenging it and refusing to cooperate.
And you put those two groups together and they are the acquiescers all over the world that have allowed this situation to emerge.
Because if people come out of the Daniel Andrews office, these other bloody people around the states of Australia and around the United States and Britain, the Johnsons and the Bidens, and they come out and they say, we've had a discussion and this is what's going to happen.
If enough people say, we're not doing that.
No, no, no, we're not doing that.
Well, where's their power?
It's gone. They have none.
They have none.
The power that they have is the power we give to them.
And so what's left is a third group.
And the third group can see it and do not wish to cooperate with it.
That is the group that is determined not to concede its self-respect.
Because if you look at every tyranny in history, no matter what form it takes, it is self-respect that has brought it down.
It's been that group of people, always the minority.
The majority may come along later, but it's always the minority that make it happen.
Who say, no, I'm not doing it.
And when the intimidation comes, they say, well, intimidate me all you like.
Because I'm not doing it.
I'm not giving you my self-respect.
And this is a very important point.
And it certainly applies to Australia, New Zealand and that part of the world.
But every other part of the world as well.
And that is, you may have noticed, and this is not by accident, I assure you.
This is by design.
This is the whole thing that we're seeing, in all its forms, is a psychological phenomenon.
It's designed to break your spirit, to confuse you and to break your spirit.
And your spirit's broken when you hand over your self-respect.
So how do they do that to maximum effect?
Number one, they put complete morons in positions of authority, well, at least public authority, the real powers in the shadows, but they put complete morons in the positions of overt power.
Some of them wearing masks, like Biden.
Yeah, all of them, yeah.
I mean, you know, if Biden had a brain cell, it would die of loneliness.
I mean, he's President of the United States.
It's extraordinary. And his sidekick, Kamala Harris.
I mean, crikey, have you got two brain cells to rub together?
I see no evidence. Both of you.
But they're President and Vice President of the United States.
Now, this is making the point that I'm coming around to.
They want and have put complete morons in power.
Daniel Andrews.
These chief health officers in Australia and around the world.
Complete morons, these people.
Don't acknowledge your neighbour if you see him in the supermarket.
It's crazy, isn't it?
Who the bloody hell are you to tell me I can't acknowledge my neighbour?
Get out of my life, you moron!
Now, there's a reason for this, and there's a reason, and it's connected to why they want you to see...
That these restrictions and impositions are ridiculous.
Have no scientific basis, have no health basis, have no rational basis, are completely contradictory.
They want those two things in place.
Why? Because if they can let you see you're being told to do ridiculous things by a moron, and you still do them, They've got your self-respect.
And once self-respect has gone, only submission remains.
They're trying to break your spirit.
This is why we need to call a moron a moron.
And we need to call ludicrous impositions ludicrous impositions.
And the next stage is I'm not cooperating with them.
Because if I cooperate with With someone telling me what to do when they're a moron, and they're telling me what to do, which is moronic, then I become a moron.
And I have no intention whatsoever of reaching that stage of self-respect deletion.
So I've not done any of this stuff since this began.
I have no mask, no social distancing, nothing.
If people are walking down the street and they want, oh, go, somebody come in.
I've got a mask on.
I've experienced that before.
You do that. That's not a problem.
I have no problem with you doing that.
But I'm not going to avoid you because I'm not frightened of you.
And I've gone out of my house when I feel like it.
Because I will not cooperate.
And if they say, okay, you do that, we'll do this.
My reply is, well, do it then.
Do it! Because no matter what you threaten me with, I am not cooperating with a moron or a psychopath.
End of story. Do what you like.
I am not giving myself respect to you.
And now let's just look in America.
I'm not a supporter of Trump.
I've been a critic of Trump since he was running for president.
And as for Biden, well, you know, don't start me.
You know, politics is...
We need to understand this.
Politics is not going to get us out of this.
Politics got us into it.
We live in one-party states.
We have a...
A right-wing, that's the label, government in Britain under Johnson, moron, called the Conservative Party.
And then we have a supposedly left-wing opposition called the Labour Party.
And the criticism of the Labour Party, of the Conservative government, throughout this COVID hoax, has not been the destruction and deletion of freedom.
It's been that the fascism has not been extreme enough.
And where are the Republicans apart from one or two in America?
Where are they? Where is the political opposition?
There is no political opposition because we live in one party states.
And therefore, I keep coming back to this, the politicians are not going to change it.
I mean, asking a politician to grow a pair and a backbone is a bit like asking for the impossible.
The people who are asleep and just nodding dogs doing whatever they're told are not going to change it.
The people, unless they change, who don't want to do it but do it because they're frightened of not doing it, are not going to change it.
And that leaves us. That leaves that group of people far bigger than it seems around the world that have seen through it and will not cooperate with it.
And they're the only people that are going to bring an end to this.
And they always have been the only people that have ever brought an end to tyranny.
So how can a few people...
Control billions.
Dead simple.
Dead simple if the population keep giving their power to the few.
So if people imagine a pyramid, at the top of the pyramid, you've got the inner core of this cult.
And globally.
This cult, for people who haven't come across my work, is a global network of secret societies and semi-secret groups that have an interlocking mission control global leadership, which I call the spider.
And in each country...
There are subsidiary networks of this global cult.
And the job of the subsidiary networks is to control that country's politics, healthcare, lack of healthcare, corporations, the finance, the media, mainstream media.
And by that control...
To impose the agenda in that country dictated by the SPIDER, the global centre.
And in each country you have the same thing, virtually every country.
And this is how the same things are imposed all over the world in endless different countries at the same time in the same way, the COVID era, I rest my case.
And so...
The inner core of this global cold, you would actually get in a single room.
That's where it's actually coming from, ultimately.
In fact, it's even deeper than that, but I'm talking about the human level of it.
And so they're sitting at the top of this pyramid.
And this pyramid is fiercely compartmentalized, and the pyramid is represented globally, and it's represented nationally in each country.
So the top of the pyramid, the inner core, you never see They impose their agenda, their will, upon the level below them.
And that level acquiesces to them and imposes it on the level below them.
And very soon after you come down from that inner core peak, you're meeting compartmentalized levels of the pyramid that have no idea there even is a cult.
All they're doing is taking orders from their perceived superiors and imposing them on the level below them.
And so you come down the pyramid, and it's ever so simple.
Imposition, acquiescence.
And then you come down to the mass of the population.
And if we, as so many have in the COVID era before, but even more blatantly there since...
If we acquiesce to our own enslavement, to that level of this pyramid which is imposing upon us, which is governments, law enforcement, etc., then we complete a circuit.
We complete a circuit of imposition acquiescence that allows the agenda of the tiny few at the top of that pyramid to be imposed on billions and billions of people.
And the only way it's possible, or even in any way possible, Is the acquiescence of the many to the few.
And the acquiescence, no matter what, of the perceived smaller people from the impositions of the perceived superior people.
And, you know, we need to start saying, I'm being told to do this But is it right?
Not, well, you know, I don't understand why I'm being told to do this, but, you know, it's come from an eye.
I don't know. We better do it.
Instead of that, saying, why am I being asked to do this?
Could you just explain? Because I need to know, before I do it, why you want me to do it.
And I want to see if it stands up, if it makes sense.
I mean, the thing about so many members of humanity is that they speak one thing and they do another.
So they'll tell you, because they want to make you think they're streetwise, You never believe what you read in the media.
You never believe what them journalists do.
And then they believe them, I know.
Or you never believe politicians, they're always lying.
True! And then they listen to them.
And then they listen to them.
It's crazy. It is crazy.
And what it is, is there has been a massive job done on great tracks of the human psyche.
So, the difference between nodding dog people...
Am I too old for people to realise what a nodding dog is?
I don't know. Just somebody that says, yes, master.
What they used to have, there was a...
Oh, I think I know what you're talking about.
Those little toy dogs.
When I was much younger, where people, I mean, seriously, if you're new to this, it was a trend, where people put toy dogs on the back window of their car or something.
And as the car moved, the dog would nod.
And that was it.
So craziness is not new.
It's been around a while.
But anyway, the nodding dog people The difference between them and the awakening people is the point where the conclusion is made.
So with nodding dog people, the conclusion comes first.
So if you take a woke mind, which is the opposite of awake, ironically, it will conclude how things are.
And then it will make any information or evidence fit the conclusion.
And if there's evidence around that challenges the conclusion, then it wants it censored and those people silenced.
This is what is going on.
And then there's the other people that just take their conclusion from whatever authority tells them.
So there's a deadly virus.
That's the conclusion.
That's the first part and only part of the perceptual process is authority says there's a deadly virus.
There's a deadly virus.
I believe it.
And there's no...
Well, hold on a minute.
Where's the evidence of the deadly virus?
But awakening people, the conclusion comes at the end of the process, not the start.
So what they're doing is taking information from these different sources, official and alternative, and they are forming that into their own conclusion, which is overwhelmingly, of course, the government's body lying to us because that's his job.
So this is the difference.
There is those that process information into a conclusion, and there are those where the conclusion comes first and is immovable from then on.
And because that conclusion is concrete solid, it doesn't matter how many times the source of the conclusion, authority, lies to you.
You just go on going through the same process.
Oh, they said we've got to wear masks now to protect us from the deadly virus.
So I'm going to wear one.
They don't even work. And most of the time, there's big gaps in them.
It works psychologically, though. That's what they're there for.
Yeah, yes, exactly.
The virtue signalling.
Well, I'll tell you a quick story.
I was quite shocked this morning.
Just to show you how easy it is to manipulate people.
We had Freedom Day in the summer.
I love it. It's Freedom Day.
What do you mean with Freedom Day?
Well, that's when the government gives you what's your natural right.
All right. Okay. Thank you very much.
I get that. Well, actually, I don't.
And so the masks were no longer enforced by, quote, law.
Right? So there was a period, because I went out specifically into a town the morning of Freedom Day, because I wanted to see how many people had taken their masks off.
It was extraordinarily few.
I mean, I'd never put mine on.
It was quite funny, but there was extraordinarily few.
But gradually, gradually, gradually, it's...
It's died away.
You've reached a point where it's an odd one.
The vast majority weren't doing it anymore.
Now, what they're doing in Britain is they're winding up and preparing people perceptually, because it's all in their mind.
For vaccine passports, fake vaccine passports, and all the restrictions.
And it's obvious, you're sitting there going, I know what you're doing.
That's happening here too, in parallel to you.
Yeah, because it's globally coordinated.
So they're saying, oh, the cases are going up.
Oh, the cases are going up. Oh, you mean the cases?
You mean people tested positive with the test not testing for the virus?
You mean those cases? Yes.
And so I've gone out this morning after this has been ramped up.
Because I've been at home a few days working.
So I went out. The number of masks has increased dramatically in the street.
And it's a sunny day in the street.
And the number of masks has increased dramatically.
Oh, the case is going up.
Better put my face nappy back on.
You know, it's not, well...
Have you looked at the PCR test and seen that it's not testing for a virus and so every case is invalid?
That's right. You've seen that the first time in human history, they're saying if you test positive with a test not testing for a virus and die of any other cause within 28 days, COVID-19 goes on your death certificate.
That's where they're getting the death from. Do you know that?
No, I didn't know that.
No. No, because you watch the bloody BBC. Didn't the president of Tanzania test out a goat and some fruit and they tested positive and then he got vaccinated?
Because, you see, the whole foundation of the hoax is the test.
The whole foundation. Everything comes from that.
They didn't have the test, not testing for the virus, but persuading people it is.
The house of cards will come down.
So this is why they keep saying, test, test, test, test.
Well, up to the point where get vax, get vax, get vax, but test, test, test.
Because they know that because the test is not testing for the virus, but it is picking up genetic material, nothing to do with ill health.
In people. That's what the PCR test is there to do.
It's to pick up genetic material in the sample.
And it's a tiny, tiny sample.
And what the PCR test does is make lots of copies of it.
And the more copies it makes of it, what they call amplification, the more the test will test positive for the different elements in the sample.
So, the more you amplify the test, make more copies, the more times the test is going to test positive.
Not for a virus or sickness.
The creator, Kerry Mullis, an American biochemist, a brilliant man, he said publicly before he died, very conveniently, not long before this kicked off, that This test cannot test for an infectious virus.
It cannot test if you're sick.
That's what it's not there for.
But that's what they're using it for.
And they're using it because they don't have a virus.
There is no virus. There is no virus.
And so they have to give the impression that there is.
With a test, there's not testing for it, but you say it is.
And it all came about, this, with a couple of crooks in Germany.
One of them is called Christian Drosten.
He's a virologist. So often, it seems to me...
People that have professor under...
I mean, whenever someone says, this is professor so-and-so about to make a statement, I think to myself, my heart drops.
And I think, well, a load of crap's about to come out of this guy's mouth with a title professor.
You know, I mean, some of the most uninformed, ridiculous people are professors.
Yeah, our chief health officers.
Yeah, health officers, yeah.
What's that one in New South Wales?
Is it Kerry Chant or something?
Kerry Chant, I think it's her.
And then there's that Ignoramus up in Queensland.
How she remembers to be there through the day, I have no idea.
I mean, she must keep asking people why she's going blue and they have to remind her, you know.
And yet, and this is the point I went back to earlier.
These people are morons.
Kerry Chan is a moron.
A moron.
The health officer in Queensland is a moron.
But when they say this is what's going to happen, people do it!
Why? It's ridiculous!
And that's how the few control the many.
You know, when people say, you know, what do we do?
Often what they're thinking is, what do we do in terms of someone else is going to do it?
No. We have to do it.
All of us have to do it.
You know what the problem is, David?
You know what the problem is, David, here in Australia, is in the 70s, they took away the knowledge from children in school to learn about the Constitution.
So they took it away.
And then a couple of decades later, they created a false flag Massacre in Tasmania to bring in a gun reform to disarm the people.
So obviously, as you know, because we've learned from you about all of the truths about the plan.
And so people in Australia right now don't know their rights.
They don't know the law.
And even lawyers in Australia, the majority of them don't even understand constitutional law.
So they're going into the wrong situation.
Courts to fight for us instead of fighting constitutionally.
So even that, I mean, our constitution is similar to yours.
So we are now trying to wake that up again and empower people with knowledge.
Yeah, but, you know, you can go through the legal system.
And the legal system's stitched up.
It doesn't mean every judge is corrupt, but a lot of them are.
It doesn't mean all these people in the legal profession are corrupt, but a lot of them are.
But not all of them.
But what they do is if they've got a case, they absolutely have to win for their agenda.
They'll put a judge To hear that case, he's safe and he's going to come to the right conclusion no matter what the evidence.
So going through the legal system is challenging.
My way is simply...
I don't need you, Mr.
Dark Suit, Mr.
Psychopath in Uniform, To tell me when I can be free or not.
Because I am free.
And you're not going to deliver whether I'm free or not.
I am free. And therefore, I am not going to cooperate with you trying to take my freedom away.
Now, you may take sanctions on that and you feel free to your heart's content.
But I'm still not going to cooperate with you.
I don't need a law to go through not to cooperate with you.
I, the sovereign individual, am not cooperating with you.
And the more and more people who gather with that mentality, the less ability these morons have to enforce what the psychopaths tell them to enforce.
And you mentioned there about Not teaching the Constitution in the schools.
This is something that surely would get people to see, and many other things, that this hasn't just happened.
What is happening now has been prepared for, for an enormous amount of time.
Decades and decades and decades and decades, this has been prepared for, because this is how far back that goes.
And so, if you want an imposed fascism, Then you don't want an armed population.
So you get rid of the armed population before you play your card.
If you look at all these tyrants, Hitler, all of them, They disarmed the population before they went for it.
This is why they're trying to disarm Americans.
Same thing, but there's been too much pushback, and they wanted to get that through long before now, and they haven't, but they're still trying.
And so all these things, and then you go talking of the schools, and I was born in 1952, and I went to school, but I didn't concentrate much.
I just went to see my mates and play football for the school team, really.
Yeah, you were a football player as a profession, right?
I had a good time at school once I got really into it, because I weren't listening, really.
I mean, I... When they started telling me that I have to learn algebra, that was a straw for me.
What does X equal?
I couldn't give a damn, mate.
Whatever you want. I don't care.
And how is it serving you in your adult life anyway?
You don't walk around life going, oh, well.
How am I going to use this stuff?
And if I need this stuff at some point, well, I can find out about it.
I don't need to have me head filled with all this garbage, historical explanations that aren't true, are provably not true if you do the research and all this stuff.
I don't need it, but I had a good time because I never took it seriously.
But the reason I mention that is because, of course, when I was growing up in the 50s and 60s, there was an effort to mold you a bit.
They had a problem with me.
To mold you a bit.
But what is happening to kids now is my experience in school is not even a smear.
Of the molding that goes on now.
The schools are not places of learning.
They are places of psychological programming.
That's what they're there for.
Very sad. I mean, if you look at a human life, it's a download of perception from Cradle to Grape.
You know, you come out of the womb, your parents are affecting your perception, and if those parents have been through what you're about to go through, well, they're going to affect your perception in a certain way.
You then go to school.
You've just arrived in the world.
You've been here three, four years, and now you're sitting in front of an authority figure representing the state, the state's version of everything.
And they're telling you not only what is, what isn't, what's right, what's wrong, they're telling you when you have to be there, when you can leave, when you can go to the toilet, when you can eat, when you can talk.
And this process of authority imposing its will and imposing the perceptual agenda starts from a very, very early age and then goes on and on and on and on.
And then you come out at the other end, having had your perceptions molded like into a herd mentality.
And then you go out into the world of work and you meet people who've been through what you've just been through but earlier.
And they overwhelmingly have taken on the perceptual program.
And so all around you, both at school and in the world of work afterwards, you are surrounded by stimuli.
From different people telling you that the perception you've accepted is real is actually real.
Well, everybody knows that, mate.
No, everybody has taken the download and not questioned it.
That's why everyone thinks they know that.
Do some questioning and you'll realize you've been lied to.
Not just by government directly, but all the way through your school life.
I mean, what is a teacher?
A teacher is someone that is a vehicle to download the state's curriculum program.
Sexual program to the next generation.
That's what they are.
True teachers are people that encourage young people to critically think and question everything.
That's a true teacher.
Absolutely. You look at the difference between the attitude of someone like Socrates in ancient Greece, who said question everything, And a teacher in the system who's basically saying to you now, around the world, question nothing.
Because if you question me as I download the state's version of reality to you every day, you are a disruptive influence in the classroom.
And this is the way it is.
And so what's happened is that recent generations have been the most perceptually Program generations in the entirety of human history because of the technology involved now and the psychological development of the processes to download perception.
And therefore, you are staggeringly...
They used to say, I used to say, if you're not a rebel when you're young, when are you going to bloody start?
You know what I mean? If you're not questioning authority when you're young, when are you going to start?
And what we've had, because of this perceptual download, and we come back to the conclusion comes first...
And only, and it's not at the end of the process, it's at the start.
You've got all these, because of the programming in the schools and universities, you've got all these young kids, and there are exceptions, and they are fantastic exceptions.
If you've been through that and you've retained control of your own mind, you're a very seriously impressive man or woman, or a young person.
I put my hand up to that.
So what you...
What you have is these perceptually programmed people who have been given a series of conclusions which are immovable.
So you cannot debate the conclusion.
If you want to debate the conclusion, the conclusion or the concluder wants you to be silenced.
Even if they know it consciously or even if it's subconsciously, they know they can't defend the conclusion.
Because people who are confident of what they're saying, they don't want to censor anybody.
I don't want to censor anybody.
And they're quite open to debate, to defend their conclusion.
But people who have the download of conclusion do not have the evidential background of To defend the conclusion because they haven't done it.
They've just accepted it through the greatest form of mind control, repetition.
So when they conclude, because that's all they've basically heard, that humans are changing the climate, Which is another hoax, which is why people like Gates and Klaus Schwab at the World Economic Forum and all these other people are pushing both the COVID hoax and the climate hoax and both have the same solutions from their point of view, the centralization of power and control of the fine detail of your life.
These two hoaxes are absolutely connected.
That's why the same people are pushing them.
That conclusion is not open for debate.
And you've got the media, controlled by the same cult, who will not allow questioning of that conclusion to To be circulated.
You've got Silicon Valley, which was created by the cult in terms of Facebook and Google and YouTube, YouTube as it is now.
And therefore, they censor to defend the narrative, the conclusion that they want people to have.
And the reason they have to censor is the same reason.
That the concluders will not debate and don't want the circulation of any evidence challenging their conclusion, because they can't defend the conclusion, just as the official officialdom cannot defend its COVID and global warming hoax narrative.
So the only way you're going to defend it is by silencing those that can unravel it and expose it.
You are dealing with people where the conclusion is so steadfast, it's so solidified that no amount of evidence will move it.
And you have seen this climate change woke mentality and the transgender woke mentality and all this transferred to the COVID hoax almost absolutely seamlessly.
where the conclusion is immovable so the conclusion there's a deadly virus and so all these things have to happen to save us from the deadly virus that conclusion is immovable and it doesn't matter how many people die and my god they are from having a fake vaccine doesn't matter how many life-changing effects there are of people from having it the conclusion is That we have a deadly virus, and the way to protect us from it is this vaccine.
That's the conclusion, and it's immovable.
And no amount of evidence will move it.
It's so solidified.
And so, again, it's those with a fluid mind that can process information into their own conclusion.
They're the only people that are going to change this, because the only people can see it.
So what's the go with...
I'm just asking this question sort of rhetorically because I understand it, but there's a lot of viewers that may not and they may not believe it, but coming from you that has more authority on the knowledge and has been talking about this for years, what's the goal with the booster shots?
The aim of having people have the booster shots every few months, is that to increase the dosage of the poison, the graphene oxide or whatever is in it, to be able to wipe out the population?
Yeah. I've got a wire come out.
Some people may have said that happened a long time ago, but never mind.
And I just shut this curtain a bit because the sun's coming round and I'm going to look like a religious figure when it comes through the window.
Illuminated! Yeah.
Well, we're into a very important area now.
A really important area.
Yeah. I've been pointing out for a long, long time in the books and the talks and the interviews and stuff that the plan is, I mean a long time, long before the COVID era, decades, that the plan is to transform the nature of the human body.
From human 1.0, we'll call it, to human 2.0.
And human 2.0 is a form that is planned to be far more synthetic.
This is why this new discipline within science is exploding.
It's called synthetic biology.
And this is why these mRNA fake vaccines are infusing into the body synthetic messenger RNA to change the nature of DNA and to change the nature of human genetics.
And so in this synthetic material It's nanotechnology that's self-replicating.
So once you've had it, it self-replicates.
I mean, as we speak, there's a An interview with an American doctor on DavidIyke.com who has looked at the contents of the vial of the Pfizer vaccine.
She's looked at others too, Johnson& Johnson, etc.
But this is the Pfizer one.
And what's in it is bloody horrific.
It's material that is creating networks, a bit like neural networks, in the body.
That can receive and transmit information.
I've said this was coming. This is what they were going to do.
Long ago I said they were going to do this.
And here they are doing it.
And there's like entities that seem to be alive.
I've seen that. Yeah.
And then you see...
The blood of people after they've been faked vaxxed compared with how the blood should be.
It's horrific. It's coagulating.
When it does that, what you're going to do, you're going to go down with blood clots, you're going to go down with heart problems and what have you.
That's the other point. The body is healthy, what we call healthy, harmonious.
When the messaging around the body, the electrical messaging, etc., is in harmony.
Just as when the electrical messaging around a computer is working as it should, the computer works as it should.
But when you get a, quote, computer virus, which disrupts the communication system of the computer, the computer doesn't work anymore.
It goes haywire.
And, you know, you bang the mouse and you bang the keys, nothing's happening.
The computer's gone its own way.
And so anything that disrupts the messaging system of the body is going to manifest as some sort of either, quote, physical or psychological dis-ease, disharmony. And We should just emphasize what these Moderna, Pfizer, etc.
vaccines are called. mRNA, messenger RNA. They are messing through synthetic input with the messaging system of the body.
And once you're knocking that out of kilter, you are opening the body to an endless stream of Of health effects.
Malfunctions would be an accurate way of doing it.
Just as the computer malfunctions when its messaging system goes haywire.
And I'll tell you what they're doing in Britain now, and you'll see this around the world.
They're saying out of nowhere, because of course the flu It disappeared through the COVID era.
On holiday. Yeah.
And of course, the flu never disappeared at all.
It was redesignated COVID-19.
When you don't have a virus, you cannot have a consequence of the virus.
So just as you have to make the virus appear to exist by testing for it with a test, not testing for it, So you have to make the consequences of the, quote, virus appear to exist by redesignation of diagnosis.
So 28 days, you die of anything.
If you've tested positive with a test, not testing for the virus, you died of COVID-19.
This is where the deaths and things come from, as I said earlier.
So you have this...
This whole scam going on with the testing, etc.
And you are using that, not a real virus, the appearance of one, as an excuse for the real reason You're doing all this, which is to get this shite into every man, woman and child on the planet.
And that should send out alarm bells immediately.
If you believe in this virus, despite the lack of scientific evidence that it exists, but if you believe in it, look at the infection to fatality rate.
Even among older people, but look at it among anything but older people.
It is absolutely tiny.
Why would you want to put this fake vaccine into every man, woman and child on the planet?
And not only that, as you mentioned, keep adding new ones.
Because when they say you need a booster, what they're saying is the first two didn't work.
And the first two didn't work and the booster is not going to work and the one after that's not going to work because they're not there to respond to any health situation.
They're there to infuse this synthetic genetic material and all this other stuff that's going in there into the human body.
And the idea is to depopulate on a massive scale.
And those that survive, that make the transition, To go into a completely different, especially ongoing, bodily state, which is far more synthetic, because so many things connect once you go down this road, things that are happening around us, because everything connects in the end, because it's one big agenda.
So, Aldous Huxley wrote in Brave New World in 1932 about the coming new humans.
That would not be able to procreate.
That would procreate through technology, technologically procreation.
And that it would be the end of parenthood.
There wouldn't be parents anymore.
The state would bring up the children because the state would create the children, technologically.
So the technology that Huxley was talking about is the reason why he would have known it.
Even all that time ago. It's now being played out.
It's now being rolled out.
And so human 2.0 is not meant to procreate because it's meant to have no gender.
Not transgender.
No gender.
That's the next phrase, isn't it?
Yeah. What these transgender activists need to grasp is In their self-obsessed hysteria is that they're just being used.
This is not about transgender.
This is about a progression through transgender to no gender.
And so the idea This is why they're going for the kids.
This is why you've got your drag queens reading books and doing their stuff in front of small kids in schools and libraries.
All around the world, the authorities have the same idea at the same time.
Yeah, I believe that. Because if you're going to confuse a young kid's perception of gender, then a drag queen is perfect because you've got a man dressed as a woman.
Now, I've got nothing against drag queens.
You know, be my guest or whatever turns you on.
It's none of my business.
But how you're being used to transform the perception of the young of gender is my business.
It's everybody's business and it's every parent's business.
So the idea is that you're confusing gender.
So now you have this big long list of supposed genders.
There's two sexes, male and female, biological fact.
If people want to or think they're in the wrong body or think that they want to identify as something that they perceive as them, they've got every right to do that.
But this is not what this transgender explosion that came out of nowhere and is suddenly everywhere is about.
It's confusing gender, especially among the young, on the road to fusing gender.
And this fake vaccine, as not just doctors and scientists with backbone have pointed out, but as we've seen with the consequences for pregnant women, etc., of it, many of them, It's targeting fertility.
The menstrual effects of this vaccine on so many women.
What's that? That's the fertility cycle.
We've seen that. And then you've got the male sperm being affected too.
And what is plummeting catastrophically, and I mean catastrophically, worldwide, but sperm counts.
Yeah, big time. Especially in the West, but actually everywhere, but especially in the West.
So What is that doing?
It's phasing out human 1.0 so that they can bring in human 2.0, which is a non-procreating human.
And this is why they're targeting men.
They're targeting men. It's not only sperm counts that are falling around the world.
Testosterone counts are falling.
That's why so many men, big men, some of them, sit at home in their face nappy, I've heard there's a lot of men that have been jabbed since being jabbed.
They've moved from being really happy, social, active people to becoming a seclude and quiet and doesn't want to see anybody anymore.
Something is in this jab that is actually making them very docile.
Yes, exactly. It is.
And I've come across that.
I've researched that quite a bit.
And I don't know whether you know, but there was a guy 100 years ago called Rudolf Steiner, an Austrian man.
That's where the Steiner schools come from around the world, so-called Waldorf education.
And he was both very open and awake in terms of consciousness.
But he also had many contacts within the system, many connections into the system, which he challenged.
And he said 100 years ago, That a vaccine was coming that would eventually be given to all children straight after birth that was designed to detach what I would call their five sense mind, their body mind, from their expanded awareness.
There was what he called his soul.
And he said that when they are given this vaccine, The soul will disconnect from the, if you like, incarnate body-mind.
And the people would become automatons.
I said that 100 years ago.
Automatons. And I've been reading some of these energetic healers who do this hands-on Reiki stuff, who've been saying that the difference in the energetic field...
Of someone before the jab and afterwards is amazing.
They use this term.
There's a disconnect.
There's a separation. Now, I've been saying all through these decades that the very foundation of this cult's control of humans and ambitions for humans is to disconnect five sense mind from expanded awareness.
And now they are absolutely doing it, never mind almost, with these jabs.
And I've come across many people who've said of their loved ones, their workmates, they're not the same after they've had the jab.
You know, they seem vacant somehow.
But again, you know, you look at so many men, even before the jabs rolled out, during the first year of lockdown and stuff, 2020, and they were docile then as well.
I mean, you know, I've sat in a cafe, right?
Because they introduced this law.
I mean, you must have it, or experienced it in Australia, but experienced everything.
But in Britain, that if you went into a cafe or a restaurant, Then you had to wear a mask until you got to your table.
Then you could sit down and take it off.
Now, we go back to what I said earlier.
That is insane.
In fact, I think at some point they could go so far in taking the piss out of the population.
That they will tell them they can't take their mask off if they're drinking alcohol.
Oh, wait, it's happened here!
It's happened here! I know! Dan Andrews!
I know! Dan Andrews!
Is there life on Dan Andrews?
I see absolutely no evidence.
But going back to this rule, as I said earlier, that is ridiculous!
There is no reason for that.
So you know what?
I ain't doing it.
I've sat in restaurants and cafes and I've seen big butch men walk to the door, put their face nappy on, Walking, sometimes three strides, sat down at the table, taking off.
And it's like, what?
And that's why, you know, so many women have been at the forefront of this.
And that's fantastic.
But come on, you know.
We ought to be, all of us, involved in this and not leaving it to other people to do it for us.
We have to do it for ourselves and collectively do it for each other.
But this is something that has definitely happened because, like I say, the testosterone levels have dropped as sperm counts have dropped.
And this has all been systematic.
All this has been planned for.
You know, the smartphones in the pocket, the chemicals in plastics and...
The 5G, the Wi-Fi radiation, all of that.
It's all affecting sperm.
And what they're doing is phasing out human 1.0.
And this is the thing about the fake vaccines, you see.
I've seen some scientists and doctors who have said...
That when the generations today, the young that are getting this, when they get to child-producing age, they're going to find they can't.
This is part of this phasing out.
And the other thing is that this stuff is transferred through sperm.
So it's transferring to the next generation.
Kids are going to be born with this stuff.
And it's impossible to overstate the situation we're in.
And therefore, anyone that's not fallen for it yet, absolutely, under no level of intimidation, must they allow themselves to fall for it?
Or say, you know, I'm going to lose my job.
Well, I tell you what, mate, you may, yes, but You won't be doing the job for that bloody long, probably, if you have it anyway.
Because this is self-replicating.
And like you said, the point you brought up earlier, the more of these boosters that you have, the more of this synthetic nanotechnology material is being infused in the body, and the quicker the body is going to be either unable to function, That's the depopulation, or is going to mutate towards this synthetic new human.
And therefore, the bottom line of everything Is not to have the fake jab.
This is why they want to get it into every man, woman and child.
This is why they're going to these lengths of throwing decent, honest human beings out of caring, essential jobs because they won't have the fake vaccine.
They want to, in effect, starve them out so that everyone has it.
And they're already doing it.
They want to play off The jabbed population against the unjabbed population.
Yeah, of course it's happening, yeah, because it's all part of the game.
I tell you what, these people are nothing if not predictable.
And actually, you know, for all their technological acumen, they're not very bright.
They're not very bright.
They're not as all-powerful as...
As people think they are.
Because the power is coming from us.
We're giving our power to them in the form of acquiescence.
And then they're recycling it back against us.
And, you know, the level of programming can be seen probably more than anywhere in law enforcement.
Because And this is another point about the preparation.
In my books over the last, I don't know, 15-20 years, I've been tracking the transformation of law enforcement From something that is serving humanity or serving the community to one that sees the community as the enemy.
That's not every police officer, of course not, but this is the way it's been moving.
And what they've been doing, and I'm sure there's a lot of police officers out there, former police officers, even police officers now, that will be nodding at this.
They have been systematically replacing decent police officers who wanted to do the job right with psychopaths and morons.
The morons will just do whatever authority tells them, just like the population in general in vast numbers.
So they're not a problem.
Do this! Yes, sir!
And they do it. They don't say, well, hold on a minute.
How can that be justified?
Is that legal? Oh, yes, sir!
And then you've got the psychopaths who just love it.
You know, they have this desire to be psychopathic and the police service gives them the opportunity.
And so they've been recruiting a lot of psychopaths and a lot of morons.
And it's transformed the nature of the police because it's a very simple equation.
If you want psychopathy in uniform, then recruit morons.
Are you a moron? Yeah, you've got the job.
Are you a psychopath?
Yeah, you've got the job. And so it's amazing, like I say, the level of programming.
That you have people.
I know one or two have resigned.
I saw a lady being interviewed the other day.
Oh, that's Crystal Mitchell.
She's a hero. Crystal Mitchell, Craig Backman, Ronald Crystal.
There's a couple of others. There's one that was in Western Australia that's speaking out about being jabbed and was speaking out about the adverse reactions.
And they've tried to gag her.
So they're trying to silence them.
And now there's more police standing up because they didn't join the force to go against the people.
They were recruited to serve the people and unfortunately you've seen what's happened in Melbourne.
We've been handed the heaviest hand of the law enforcement across the whole country.
It's been devastated. It's been recruited that way on purpose.
They've been preparing for this on every area, the whole spectrum of society.
They've been preparing for this period for a very long time.
It's fantastic that the decent police officers are pushing back.
Imagine the level of programming it takes to impose fascism on a population knowing that your children and grandchildren are going to have to live under the fascism.
That shows a lack of self-awareness but also a lack of backbone.
That beggars belief. But what these police officers need to understand is that their deletion is also planned.
And, you know, you must get fake vaccinated, put your life at risk, put your health at risk, and put your fertility at risk to stay in the police force and the military.
So these people you are serving and these people whose will you are enforcing on the people clearly don't give a bloody damn about you unless you do what they say as well.
They have no interest in your welfare.
They're quite happy to throw you on the bloody street.
What are you doing enforcing what these people tell you to?
It's unbelievable. Is there any consciousness at work here?
I see, again, no evidence.
And so you have this situation where members of the target population are being used to impose the will of the few on the target population.
Again, what would happen if enough of the police force said we're not doing it?
We're not doing it. And the public said, we're not doing it.
Because, okay, why are you, father, grandfather, in uniform, imposing this fascism on the population?
Why are you doing it?
Well, the chief medical officer said, well, she's a bloody moron!
A lot of them are.
What are you doing?
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think they're all learning now.
They're starting to learn. Like up in Queensland and Western Australia, the police officers over there are starting to stand up against the agenda.
So Victoria and New South Wales are catching on.
But here, I mean, as you know, Melbourne especially was chosen to be the experiment for the world with what's going on.
All the programming is going on.
The Doherty's Institute, it's crazy.
See, I've been talking about this and writing about this for a long time.
It's the push the gate technique.
What they do is they push the gate and by that I mean they want to introduce something.
So they start to introduce it.
And what they're watching for is resistance from the gate.
Yeah. And if there's no resistance, they walk through the gate.
And they walk to the next gate.
And they start pushing on that one, which is more extreme measures.
If there's no resistance, they walk through that gate.
And that's what they've been doing all the way through the COVID era.
They've been pushing the gate. They're finding no resistance.
And they're walking on to the next one.
And that's why it's got more and more extreme.
There's a video circulating on the internet, which I said some months back into this, about the fact that the speed...
Of the imposition of fascism is absolutely equal to the speed of human acquiescence.
The two are the same.
And we keep coming back to the same conclusion.
When we stop cooperating with our own enslavement, we cannot be enslaved.
And as someone said, the slave...
Is the one that waits for someone else to come and free them.
We are all people who should be not cooperating with our own enslavement.
And I'll tell you this. I don't care.
If you are out there and you believe...
In mandatory vaccination, fake vaccination in this case, you are a fascist.
And you're not only a fascist, you're an idiot.
Because what happens in all these things, in all these tyrannies, They pick one group and they target them.
And all these other groups in the society, they say, well, this is not affecting me.
And anyway, I've been persuaded that they're horrible, that group.
So I support what's happening to them.
And then they pick that group off.
And then, gate pushing again, they come for another group.
Oh, well, that's not affecting me, and I've been persuaded they're horrible and all, so I support that, yeah.
And then, there's a knock on their door.
Hello, we've come to take you away.
And this was summed up, of course, by that famous saying by a pastor in Nazi Germany, Pastor Neumoller, I think his name was.
First they came for the The trade unionists.
I was not a trade unionist, so I did nothing.
Then they came for the communists.
I was not a communist, so I did nothing.
Then they came for the Jews, and I was not a Jew, so I did nothing.
Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak up.
That's what's happening. So you out there, who may be watching this by accident, of course, who believe in mandatory vaccination, you are a fascist.
And you are an idiot.
Because what you are demanding for others is going to come for you.
And we're seeing this now, ironically, irony of ironies in the state of Israel.
I've done a number of interviews with people in Israel who are trying to get this information out.
And if you want to see the cutting edge of the fake vaccine agenda, then look to Israel.
Where, first of all, you have two jabs, and then we'll go back to normal.
And, of course, no intention to do it, and that's not the idea.
And you'll get a green pass.
And the green pass, all these vaccine passports are green, overwhelmingly, because it's all part of this fusion of the green agenda and the human-caused climate change hoax and the COVID hoax.
So, you can have your pass, and that means you can do all these things, and people who haven't had the fake backs, they can't do any of them.
And then they say, oh, you need a booster.
You need a third one.
Oh, and by the way, if you don't have the third one, you're going to lose your vaccine pass, which means that you've had two of these fake vaxes, but now, if you don't have the third, you can't do any more than people haven't had any.
And they're talking now about a fourth.
This criminal, mass-murdering psychopath, that's what he is, Anthony Fauci in America, is about one every eight months.
And what are they doing?
They're infusing more and more of this synthetic genetic material into the body.
They're going to take more and more people out.
And the rest will be genetically transformed and sterilized because they're moving to the non-procreating humans.
They're doing that now in Melbourne.
It's reached that stage.
And funnily enough, you spoke earlier on about Freedom Day.
Well, today is Freedom Day for Melbourne after 280-something days in lockdown.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Crazy. We've had more suicides than COVID deaths.
We've hardly had any COVID deaths this year, but we've had thousands of suicide and we've had thousands of jabbed deaths, but they're not updating the registry.
We call it the Therapeutic Woods Administration in America.
It's the FDA. They're not updating the deaths, so people don't see the truth.
It's happening everywhere. We've got the yellow card system, they've got VAERS in America, you've got your own system, and they're ignoring it.
Yeah, and you know, no one has died of COVID. No one has died of COVID. They've died, but no one's died of COVID. COVID is supposedly caused by SARS-CoV-2, a virus.
That's never been shown to exist.
The Drosten protocol for the PCR test, they've admitted Was put together by, on the basis of a version of the quote virus, that was a computer program, not even a full computer program, but part computer program, in terms of it was only part of the code.
And the code, the code is a computer program.
You know, I have to laugh at this.
I really do. Ironically.
You know, they're saying that the, quote, virus came out of a lab in Wuhan.
Load of bloody nonsense.
First of all, they're saying it happened by accident.
So that's one version.
This virus came out of Wuhan lab by accident.
Okay. So all the evidence, whether it's the Rockefeller family or it's the Gates Foundation or whatever, all that bloody evidence, That this has been planned for a very, very, very long time would mean that they were sitting around a table one day, waiting for this to go, and then thought, you know what we forgot?
What? We forgot to release a bloody virus!
Oh no!
Well, we've got to sit here then, have we?
Until someone... Yeah.
Oh, hold on a minute.
Hold on a minute. Someone's just accidentally released it from a Wuhan lab.
Just where we want it to be released.
I mean, crazy. And then there's the Wuhan lab released it on purpose.
Okay. So you're going to release this deadly pathogen, right?
Yeah. And you don't want anyone to know that you've done it.
Oh, absolutely not.
So where are you going to release it?
Well, we thought down the street from the top biolab in China.
I mean, they'll never make a connection.
It's ridiculous.
Absolutely ridiculous. If you don't have a virus, you can make it do whatever you like because you've not got to keep within the confines of what it actually does.
And there's lots of questions about viruses in general and their ability to...
We create illness anyway. So, for instance, you can increase the number of symptoms it has.
To encompass more and more genuine illness, which you can then redesignate COVID-19.
And when, and this has happened, when you introduce the jab and people start getting all these different effects from it, what you do is you increase the number of symptoms you claim for COVID-19 to include these effects of the jab, like the heart disease.
And you can create variants that Of your fake virus to your heart's bloody content.
Oh, it's the Delta Plus!
Well, it sounds like an insurance policy.
What are you talking about? I know.
And anyway, the whole release of the virus makes absolutely no sense because if you've got a deadly pathogen, immediately you've lost control of it.
And I tell you, I've been researching these people for 30 years.
They cannot handle not being in control.
But if you don't have a virus, but what you're doing is giving the impression that you have through a fake test and fake death certificates, then you are in control of whatever it does.
And so the point being, That the crucial stage in this whole story was when the justification by inventing a virus became the jab when you were genuinely now infusing illness and death to people.
So now it's believable.
And I was saying, it was funny and I shake my head, when they're trying to sell, and there's a lot of genuine people actually believe that it was released from the lab, Have you noticed that people were keeling over and dying in the street in China?
Yes, I was going to bring that up with you.
Great acting.
It never happened anywhere else.
Same virus?
But this is the point.
You've got people like virologists who are talking about looking at this code and saying, well, it does look man-made.
Well, that's because it bloody is.
But it's not a virus. It's a computer code claiming to be a virus.
And that's why it looks man-made.
Oh, it's got a bit of this in.
It's got a bit of that in. You know why?
They took elements from a gene bank and they fused it together into a computer code they call SARS-CoV-2.
It's a computer code. So a part of that computer code is what Drosten used to get his protocol to test for COVID-19 when it wasn't, or SARS-CoV-2.
The Food and Drug Administration in America has admitted in its own documents that it has had permission for 59 PCR test protocols, each of which were different.
They were testing for a slightly different code.
And they admitted they have never had any of a natural virus.
All computer codes they've been working on.
All of them. And then you look at the hundreds now of Freedom of Information Act requests that have gone out across the world to health authorities and governments saying, produce the scientific paper that shows this virus has been purified, isolated, and shown in a natural form to exist.
Show one case worldwide of this, quote, virus being taken from someone who's supposed to have it And it being shown to be real.
Never happened. Why?
Because it's a fake.
The whole thing's a fake. And basically, it's almost the ultimate expression of the Nazi philosophy.
The bigger the lie, the more we'll believe it.
And so no one's had COVID. Because COVID-19 doesn't exist.
SARS-CoV-2 doesn't exist.
No one's had it. That doesn't mean they haven't been ill.
Flu disappeared, didn't it?
And one of the things they're doing, it's worth mentioning, what they're doing in Britain now, is they're laying the ground for the flu coming back.
Mm-hmm. And this moronic deputy chief medical officer for England, a guy called Van Tam, you wouldn't buy a bloody new car off him, never mind a used one.
Sounds like a Tim Tam. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, you know, his brain activity wouldn't trouble the Richter scale, I'll tell you.
But anyway, he's the deputy...
And he came out last week and said, oh, 60,000 could die of flu this year.
Well, how do you know that? Oh, computer modelers say.
Computer modelers?
That means the crap you put in at the start comes out as crap at the end, as a conclusion.
What would you like the people to be frightened into...
How would you frighten people into having the flu jab and all that stuff now?
35 million you want jabbed in England, Britain for the flu.
How would you like the conclusion to be...
To frighten them into having it.
Well, our thing, if we could tell them that 60,000 could die of the flu, that would frighten a lot of them into having the jab.
60,000, right? Yeah.
Do you know this computer says this is what's going on?
We've got a guy called Professor Neil Ferguson, another bloody moron, but he's a pliable one.
He gives them the answers they want.
That's why they keep employing him, even though he's been a disaster over decades.
It was his computer model that caused America to lock down and Britain to lock down and some other countries to lock down because of the deaths he said would happen if they didn't.
And they didn't have it, of course. I remember that.
They brought that out in Australia at the very beginning of this.
Yeah, yeah, because they got right on cue.
I mean, notice, you know, I mean, you know, and then Ferguson, he has to resign in the end because he's caught having it away with his mistress.
Ah, that one, yes!
In a different household to where he's just come from, and therefore breaking his own rules.
And why was he quite happy to do that?
Because he knows it's a load of crap.
And that's why these people don't follow their own rules, because they know that it's pointless.
That's for the population, not for us.
We know it's a load of crap.
We just don't want the population to know that.
Yeah, we're otherwise known as the vile and the profane.
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
I would invert that, frankly.
So, you know, you have lies at every single turn in all this.
But as I was saying about the flu, so they're saying the flu is going to come back.
And what they're saying is for the first time, oh, it's the first winter, oh, that we're going to have the flu and COVID together.
And this is for a simple reason.
They know that an enormous number of people are going to die ongoing from the effects of the jab.
They know that. And they have to find a way of exploiting those deaths and serious illnesses to advance their agenda.
And for that, they need excuses for why those deaths are happening.
And so it's COVID and it's flu and it's new variants, etc.
And what they're saying is, well, the reason the flu's coming back, is that delivery thick and stupid enough to kind of portray these people?
Probably not. But they're saying that it's coming back because during lockdown, people's immune systems were suppressed.
So now they're weakened.
Well, that was your decision, wasn't it?
All that. But this is the point.
They're not used to the flu because the lockdown restrictions stopped the flu.
Well, why didn't they stop bloody COVID then?
The point is, it didn't stop the flu.
The flu was called COVID-19.
Right. Relabeled.
Their immune systems, overwhelmingly, were not weakened by not having access to the flu because they did have access to the flu.
It was just called COVID-19.
But what is one of the things...
That backbone doctors and scientists are pointing out is a consequence of these fake vaccines.
The suppression, the serious monumental suppression of the human immune system.
And they know that.
Those that are saying, oh, the immune system was suppressed by lockdown and the flu is going to come back and there's going to be all these people dead because their immune systems are weakened.
No, no. Their immune systems are weakened because they've had the fake jab.
And you're just preparing people for an excuse to hide that fact.
Absolutely. And they're already starting to talk about the deadly Marburg virus, which is...
Coincidentally well-timed with the third booster shot that is going to be coming into Melbourne and they're already starting to place fear into people.
So they're using this as a cover-up for whatever is going to be happening with all the people that are getting very, very sick.
So I would love to know what the next five years, the next 10 years, because you've been so accurate with The last 30 years, predicting what's been happening.
And what you've been predicting is happening right now.
And I would love to pick your brains.
I mean, some people have asked me this question to ask you as well, but even personally for me, I would love to know, what do you foresee the next 10, 20, 30 years being like outside of the transformation from human one to human two, like in terms of The world's population, the world's economical status, the New World Order.
I mean, I've been reading a chapter a day or sometimes two chapters a day of this book to my audience on Instagram, the New World Order book by Ralph Epperson, just to help prepare people to educate you what's going on and what these elites are made of, and especially the elites that you were talking about before, the...
I don't know whether I want to say on this live at the moment, but the cults that they're all part of, the brotherhood.
What do you foresee this cult doing to the world over the next 30 years?
Well, if we go forward 30 years and there's no intervention, then humanity as we know it will be over, finished, kaput.
And that's well within the lifetimes of people alive today.
But, you know, when I started talking about these things 30 years ago, I was called the prophet of doom.
But actually, that's the last thing I am.
Because we are going to get out of this.
But only if people stop giving their power away and start refusing to acquiesce.
And, you know, it's a very dangerous time for any tyranny when the people you are targeting have nothing left to lose.
Because while you think you have something left to lose, you will acquiesce in the hope that you won't lose it.
But when you've nothing left to lose and whatever they can do to you is no worse than where you are, Then people's attitudes tend to change and change dramatically.
If you have an army coming at you and you have an escape route, then you'll escape as best you can.
But if you're caught in a canyon or something and the only route out is the route the army's coming through, then you've got nothing left to lose.
You can lay down and just let them do what they want, but you've got nothing left to lose now.
So the likelihood is you're actually going to turn around and just look it in the eye and say, well, I've got nothing left to lose.
I might as well give it a go. We're almost there.
Yeah, we are. We're getting there very fast.
This is why, as I was going to say earlier, and I went in another direction, is that police officers and the military need to understand that they're about to be replaced in this period running up to 2030 by technology.
You look at the number of The use of unmanned military, unmanned military aircraft, the taking over of What human troops do by technology.
Robocops and all this stuff.
This is real. They're introducing them.
There's a trial in Singapore.
These trials are not trials.
They're introducing them. Oh, look, we've had a trial.
Oh, yeah, we think it works.
No one else does, but we think it does because it's the agenda.
So we're going to introduce them all. That's what trials are about.
And so the more that they can...
Take out of action humans in whatever level, law enforcement or anything, the more they control because they control the AI. So this year of 2030 keeps coming up all the time.
2030 is when Ray Kurzweil, another psychopath, a Google executive, is saying that human brains will be connected to AI. 2030, if you look at the latest projection of when the Earth's going to be destroyed by Human-caused climate change.
It's around 2030. And then you've got Agenda 2030, this United Nations, United Nations Complete Cult Creation.
This United Nations program, Agenda 2030, to absolutely transform human society, justified overwhelmingly by saving the planet from climate change.
And if you look at the Great Reset And the Build Back Better agenda of this Klaus Schwab, this beyond psychopath, who heads this World Economic Forum.
Agenda 2030 is the Great Reset.
It's been working through the United Nations for a long time now.
So 2030 keeps coming up again and again.
And I say that we've got to sort this out before 2030.
And we've got to head this off before 2030.
And I do, I do, I am optimistic.
Yeah. And I've always been optimistic.
There's many reasons why I shouldn't have been all the way through these years.
You're trying to tell people what's coming and they're laughing at you and ridiculing you and abusing you.
But I just thought, now this is leading somewhere.
This is going somewhere. And this is going somewhere now.
But Human perception among great numbers of people has to change, and we have to face reality.
And that reality is that the world is not controlled by politicians, moronic as they may be.
It's controlled by a force of such evil that most people will be unable to comprehend it.
And my definition of evil is the absence of love.
The absence of love means the absence of empathy.
It means the absence of compassion and basic decency.
And that's why those that serve this cult and those that impose its agenda have no empathy.
Have no compassion and have no love because they're evil.
And evil may be considered powerful, but evil is a disability, actually.
It's a psychological disability.
You do not have the capacity for full-blown expanded consciousness
if you're in a state of evil.
Because a state of evil is a state of severe extreme imbalance.
And therefore we should not fall for the trap of believing that these people and this cult
is all-powerful or all-knowing.
Compared with expanded levels of consciousness, they are the village idiot.
And that's why you look at Bill Gates and you just ask yourself, who's home there?
There's nobody there.
There's nothing behind the eyes you would call life.
Look at Anthony Fauci, you see the same.
Look at Chris Whitty, the Chief Medical Officer for England.
There's no one home behind those eyes.
They are pure evil.
And that means they are severely limited in their consciousness.
So how have they manipulated humanity in the way that they have?
It is the classic expression of, in the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
They are the one-eyed man, appropriately given their symbolism.
And they have controlled humanity by making humans blind.
That's how they've done it.
There's two worlds that we live in, while it appears to be one.
One is the world of the population, and they have severe limits, unless they go looking for it, on information and knowledge.
The education system is there not to educate, but to suppress and program.
Same with the media. There's all the time, all the way through your life, you are engaging, if you allow it, in a perceptual download from Cradle to Grave to keep you in check, to keep you in the box.
And then there's this other world.
It's the world of the cult, the secret societies.
And the secret society is a secret for a simple reason.
It's keep secrets. Who from?
The population. So those secrets are many, but basically twofold.
There's the agenda that humans are being directed to succumb to, which I've been uncovering all these years.
And then there is the nature of reality, And the nature of reality that humans in their awakening state are the real power in this reality.
And the evil, which is by definition an unawakened state, is actually the eight stone weakling compared with humans in their full pomp and prime.
And the idea has been to suppress the consciousness of the human race so that we play the village idiot to their moron.
And this is the dynamic.
And when we awaken to the two-eyed, third-eyed human, the game is over.
And this is why, as I said earlier, The very foundation of the cult's agenda is to separate five sense mind, body mind, incarnate mind from expanded states of awareness.
Because if they can isolate us only in the five sense mind, they're isolating us in the frequency band arena that they control.
On the 440?
With their control of information.
Is it the 440 frequency?
Well, it's the frequency that the five senses operate on.
And if you look at the five senses, by definition, they decode reality as if everything's apart from everything else.
So we seem to be separated.
Everything seems to be separated from everything else, when actually everything is connected by a flow of awareness consciousness that's Vibrating beyond the ability of the human sight senses to access.
I mean, you look at the frequency band of what they call visible light, the only band of frequency that we can actually see as a visual reality.
It's so tiny.
It's hysterical.
It's so tiny. And so the idea is to separate expanded awareness from five sense mind and then program five sense mind with the perception that suits the agenda.
And this is why they're terrified of the awakening.
And I do mean terrified.
Because as people awaken, and what did I say about the jab and the effect it seems to be having?
It's separating incarnate awareness, five sense awareness, from expanding consciousness, what some people call soul.
That's the idea. They can only survive that way.
They can only do what they do that way.
And what happens when you awaken is you basically awaken from the five sense mind.
You awaken from the five sense mind and you start to be influenced by expanded levels of your consciousness.
And so you start to see things differently.
Whereas everything here is a dot and random.
Everything here is connected and you can connect the dots.
You can't see what's happening in the world from that point of view because the dots connect, but you can only see the dots.
That's what the five senses do.
And so as people awaken...
They start to get it.
And that's why they're so terrified of people awakening from the five senses.
And that's why it's those awakening who are not having the jab, and it's those fast asleep who are having it.
And just on that, David, the evil that is basically lacking love and compassion and empathy, that energy of love, compassion, and empathy is...
The energy that you feel when you are in prayer, when you're in meditation, a meditative state.
So how amazing would it be if the whole world was able to pray together at the same time to raise vibrations or to meditate together at the same time?
And if we did this every single week, regardless of being physically in a church or a mosque or in just any venue where people gather, If we did it online or we just designated a time where we can raise the vibration, this is something that they would be totally afraid of and I feel perhaps would be more powerful than protests.
What are your thoughts on that?
Well, I mean, you know, I see benefit in that, but the point is we're all connected.
So when we operate as individuals in, well, what we perceive ourselves as individuals, in a high-frequency, open-hearted state, Then we will naturally connect with others in that same state.
So there is no time and there is no space.
There appears to be, because of the way the five senses decode reality, but beyond this world, there is no time.
Everything is...
Is it happening in the same now?
So, for instance, I say to people, you say, well, it's very difficult, you see, for the five-sense mind to perceive no time.
Because all it can see is the progression of past to future.
Then you say to people, where are you when you think of the past?
Well, I'm in the now.
Yeah, I'm in the present. Yeah.
So where are you when you think about the future?
Well, I'm in the present.
Yeah, you're in the now.
So where were you when you experienced what you perceive now as the past?
Well, I was in the now, yeah.
And where will you be when you experience what you perceive as the future?
The past and future are concepts, they're not reality.
And because of that, and the space thing is the same, and I've explained that in the books, but if you're in Australia and I'm in England, energetically We're sitting next to each other.
And if I'm on the same frequency that you're on, then we are one.
We are part of the same frequency.
So these networks of like minds, they naturally form through the state of being that we're in.
And by the way, just got to plug in.
On a week Saturday, it's the 6th of November.
Yes. I'm doing a six-hour live stream.
I know where I'm going to be.
It's called Where From Here.
I'm going to go seriously deep in the rabbit hole.
Oh my God, are you guys listening to this?
Are you all listening to this?
You know where you need to be on the 6th of November.
So 6th of November for you is a Saturday?
Yeah, I'm starting at 11 o'clock in the morning UK time.
Okay, so that's 9...
PM our time the following, the same day.
Yeah, well, you tell me.
Yeah, it's on Iconic, Iconic.com.
So Iconic. I-C-K-O, like what's in the background behind you, I-C-K-O-N-I-C. Iconic.com, yeah.
And so, yeah, it's down for six hours, but you know me.
That's how I first learned about you.
One of my soul brothers, Johnny Greco, he's like, Leila, you've got to watch these DVDs.
It's long, but you've got to watch them.
So I did. And I was like, oh my gosh, I was glued.
And that was it for me. That was about 12 years ago.
And even though I had already been on the path of Searching for truth and knowing that I'm a little bit different than the average person that thinks about everything in the 3D and is attached to material things.
I've always known there's other stuff beyond and there's so many I wish we had more time because I have so many questions about some of the stuff that you've spoken about over the years, especially about reptilians.
Actually, funnily enough, as I speak, as we hear, there's going to be, it'll be up there now, I'm sure, on davidike.com.
I do a video every week.
Basically about the events of the week, sometimes other concepts too.
And there's one this week.
It's called The Reptilian Gods and Current Events.
And so it's interesting.
This week, I mean, I wrote a book called The Biggest Secret in...
It came out in 1998.
I wrote it in 97.
There's another one called Children of the Matrix, which came out in 2001, and which I cover all this reptilian stuff in great detail.
And it's funny, you know, you move on to other things and other areas and other aspects of it, but this is starting to come back.
Yes. As I point out in the video, this agenda that's happening around the world in all its different forms is extraordinarily anti-human.
And so is it too much of a stretch to think that ultimately, as I've been saying all these years, there's a non-human force that's actually behind it.
So that's... Oh, you just touched on something very important.
I have one question for you from one of our viewers, Simon Cleary.
And this question I'm so fascinated with and I know that you will be able to give us a great answer.
He says, I have a question.
Does David Icke know of terrestrial reptilian species that are not part of the Draco agenda and are either helping humanity or observing the human awakening?
Well, This is the point, you see, and I'm actually going to go into this in a bit of depth in this live stream.
There is a particular consciousness that is driving this, and it's a consciousness that ultimately has no form, just as our consciousness ultimately has no form.
It's a state of awareness. The question is, how aware?
And so you look at the human race and And you'll see the whole spectrum of consciousness manifesting through the human body.
Everything from love and compassion to Bill Gates.
And it's the same with any form.
Just because something has a reptilian or other vehicle to experience a certain...
Dimensional frequency doesn't mean that they're all the same.
So there will be reptilian entities and other entities of many and various kinds that are different from human that will express the whole spectrum of consciousness possibility.
The ones that I've been highlighting are the evil ones.
They're the ones that...
Work through this cult.
This cult is the network in the human society that's ultimately driven by this reptilian and other non-human species.
That's what I call the spider.
That spider at the center of the cult web is actually not human.
But it doesn't mean that there are not other expressions of the reptilian genetics, if you like, humanoid.
That... That are not lovely.
In the end, it comes down to what's your consciousness?
Because your state of consciousness will dictate your perception.
Your perception will dictate your behavior.
And your behavior is what we call human society collectively, or any society.
So yeah, I'm very open to all that.
I'm so excited.
So this is next week. So we've just got to go to your website, register for the six-hour seminar, webinar.
Yeah, well, yeah, it's a live stream.
I've been working on it for about two months or so, because there's nearly a thousand illustrations and videos.
Maybe. Not long, by the way, but short videos, but enormous numbers of images to make the point, and it's...
I'm going through the whole spectrum from the nature of reality through the names, dates, places, stuff of the COVID, and right into, well, where from here?
How do we get out of this?
And all that stuff.
So, yeah, I'm looking forward to that.
Okay awesome so I'll make sure I plug that as well so from now till next week.
Is there a price to the event or is it open to everybody?
How does it work? I'm not sure because I don't organize this.
What comes to mind as I'm Trying to scan the ad.
I think it's 20 pounds.
Oh my goodness.
I think it is.
But that includes a seven-day free subscription to Iconic, which is now a massive media platform.
It's like an alternative Netflix.
Oh wow. We've got loads of Original documentaries which we fund.
Amazing. And there's one called Divine Intervention which came out very recently, which I contributed to, which is a documentary about the manipulation of human society by non-human entities.
Wow. I do a weekly hour and a half show every week.
On the week's news, stop connecting the news.
This is what's happened, but this is why it's happened.
My son Gareth does a show every week called Right Now, which is talking to people very topical to what's happening that week.
It's a great platform, and I don't claim credit for it because my son Jamie put it together.
It's an unbelievable job.
It's not been up that long. It's been incredibly successful.
Oh, I'm definitely subscribing to that.
Definitely, 100%.
My soul just vibrates when I hear about this sort of stuff.
It excites me.
I don't watch mainstream news or mainstream television.
I don't even watch Netflix anymore.
I'm just totally dedicated to the truth, to sharing truth, to helping people understand their gender, to...
Find detox recipes to try to help remove the poisons from their body if they've already been jabbed.
Let's pray it fully works.
By the way, if you're a subscriber to Iconic, then you get a live stream for nothing.
Oh, okay.
It's all part of the package. Oh, that's beautiful.
You subscribe to Iconic, you get everything for nothing from then on, everything for your subscription.
And there's hundreds, hundreds of videos, serious stuff on there now.
Okay, we are going to go there.
And so people are asking the date, 6th of November.
Guys, if you're listening to this, it's 6th of November, 11 a.m.
UK time, which is 9...
It's 9pm our time, so Melbourne time.
So if you have a look at my last post on Facebook, you'll see I noted down a whole lot of countries and I wrote down what time it is in those countries.
That's the time. So if you're in Melbourne or Sydney, it's 9pm and it'll go right through till 3am.
So that'll be my Saturday night next week.
Yeah, well, maybe a bit longer, you know me.
Oh, hey, I'm so grateful.
Yeah, no, it's great.
David, I'm so grateful we got a chance to spend some time with you.
Before I go, I do have one more question for you.
Can we, because I know the miracles of the body, especially when you meditate on it or you pray on it, you can change the cellular structure of your body and help heal yourself very powerfully.
Can we heal the body after the jab?
Well, the idea is that you can't.
That's the idea of it.
But the body is an extension of the mind.
That's where psychosomatic illness comes from.
I mean, you tell somebody that the cup of tea they've just drunk was poisoned and you watch what happens to them.
All right. You know, they'll start to feel as if they've been poisoned.
Actually, no, I was kidding.
It was a cup of tea.
The mind makes that happen.
I... I started getting rheumatoid arthritis in my left knee, first of all, when I was 15, playing football for Coventry.
I played my entire professional football career virtually, apart from six months, with gathering rheumatoid arthritis.
That was a lot of fun.
Eventually, it finished me.
By then, it had gone into a number of other joints.
It got so bad that I remember one day I was going through Heathrow Airport, and fortunately it was Terminal 5, which has a smooth floor, because I literally couldn't lift my feet.
I was shuffling through, because I was in such pain.
What would this be?
I don't know, maybe 10 years ago, a bit more.
And then I thought, if you're saying the mind is all-powerful, And the body is an extension of the mind.
Then live it.
And I decided I weren't going to have it anymore.
I wasn't going to be limited by arthritis anymore.
And I'm 69 now.
I was told when my football career ended that I could be in a wheelchair in my 30s.
I decided that weren't going to happen.
And And here I am at 69, and the arthritis doesn't trouble me at all.
At all. I don't even think about it.
Power of the mind is amazing.
Power of consciousness as well.
Power of energy. Power of prayer.
It's amazing. And so, you know, while this is an experiment on humanity, I think now humanity can experiment on the experiment.
So, while...
You talk about prayer there.
You know, prayer. What's prayer?
Prayer. It's focused consciousness.
Yeah, focused consciousness.
And for a lot of people, it'll be a direct connection to God, whichever religion they may be connected to or the relationship they have with a higher being or a higher consciousness or a higher intelligence.
And for most people, it's themselves.
They only believe in themselves, the atheists.
But look, I'm very intuitive and I read into and I feel into the higher consciousness.
Or the collective consciousness.
And I know when something is not right or wrong, and I receive visions of what's coming.
So when it comes to this jab and the poison, I'm constantly visualizing the ability to be able to eliminate these toxins from the body.
And if people are living in a state of fear, they're only going to amplify the toxins effect on the body.
But when they don't live in a state of fear, Then they can be able to eliminate bad people, bad energy, bad toxins, just anything bad from the body.
You know, there's so many miracle stories.
I mean, you've just shared one of your own.
So I want to take this opportunity for the next 12 months to see how we can experiment on the experiment and really show humanity how powerful we are as human beings, how powerful we are.
As a collective, unified, not jabbed or unjabbed or different political party or different nationality or different religion.
I want everybody to be able to unite to see how beautiful we as humans are.
So we've got the next 12 months to examine this, don't we?
There's a lot in the live stream about that, particularly towards the end.
I can't wait to hear it next Saturday.
It can't come soon enough.
David, let's...
The 6th of November.
6th of November. So that's a Saturday.
Yeah. And that's Saturday morning for you in the UK, 11am.
But for us in Australia, it'll be 9pm on the East Coast.
So I would love to reconnect with you when you turn 70.
All right. Let's talk again next year and this time next year.
And let's take off where we've left off from here.
And in between, I'm going to be subscribing to Iconic.com and learn more from you from a distance.
Okay. Nice to talk to you.
Oh, look, I just want to thank you on behalf of everybody in Australia.
We love you. We are so appreciative of your knowledge.
And I'm so grateful to Gemma as well, your daughter-in-law and your son, Gareth.
What a legend.
We all loved his speech.
A few months was back in April.
He's amazing, amazing.
So, you know, apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
But, David, thank you so much for tonight.
You're a world of knowledge. And we'll see you next Saturday.
Come on, Ozzy, come on.
Come on! We have to prepare for a more angry world.
And how to prepare?
It means to take some necessary action.
I don't want to be fancy! I want to be free!
I want to live my life! No one said this was going to be easy.
It's not going to be easy. Because we're facing psychopathic fascist Insanity.
The problem is that the population is growing the fastest where people are less able to deal with it.
These people are mad.
They're insane. But they're insane psychopaths.
So we want to vaccinate the unvaccinated to the highest extent that we possibly can.
It's a great gift.
To be awake in a world that's fast asleep.
But with that comes responsibility.
Enormous responsibility.
Who is going to turn this around?
The psychopaths running the system are not going to do it.
It's been such a tough year for so many people.
Who's going to do it then?
The Awakening are going to do it.
and remove it, we will.
The coronavirus pandemic started in China.
Stage 1 you create a problem. It could be a manufactured virus.
The coronavirus pandemic started in China.
The Chinese medical supplies and food supply have been cut.
One of the five vaccines in the world.
Stage 1 you create a problem. It could be a manufactured virus.
virus.
You want a reaction and you want them to either say, do something, or you want them to accept what the authorities suggest must be done.
So one of the agendas is to massively cull the population.