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Sept. 9, 2021 - David Icke
01:23:07
David Icke Talks To The Instant Karma Project (Full Interview)
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♪♪♪ Hello, mate. How are you?
Good, good. You can hear us alright?
Yeah, I'll just tell you now, this is the first time I've had a towel with me for an interview.
The sun's coming straight through this bloody window.
You know what's going on.
That's normally like it is here in Australia.
Yeah, I know. I have been there.
I have noticed. It's hot there.
That's true. Yeah, it's definitely hot at the moment, that's for sure.
Thanks for your time to start with.
We know it's only an hour, so we'll keep it, you know, flowing.
We won't waste your time or anything.
Yeah. And we've just actually got a few questions.
So if that's all right, we thought we could, you know, ask you a few questions and get your opinions and we'll see how we go.
Okay. Awesome.
All right. Well, the first one is with the whole COVID, what's your opinion?
Do you think it came from the Wuhan lab or do you think it doesn't exist at all?
Where do you sit there? It doesn't exist.
The Wuhan lab, which is a choice between it happened by accident or it happened by design, doesn't really stand up.
I'm seeing a Chinese whistleblower doing the rounds on some alternative media, being on the Carlson show in America, and they say a deadly virus was released on purpose from the Chinese lab.
It's not a deadly virus.
I think that's fair to say.
So that goes out of the window.
Then we're asked to believe that Despite all the evidence that this whole COVID hoax was premeditated, that it goes back a long time, the preparation for it.
It's why things happen so quickly, once the button was pressed on it, that they made a big mistake.
They forgot about the infectious agent.
And so they had to sit around a table strumming their fingers, waiting for the virus to be accidentally released from the Wuhan lab.
Obviously nonsensical.
And then you have the idea that this virus was released on purpose.
And you asked the question...
Why then, if you're going to release a virus on purpose and you are going to obviously not want people to know you've done it, why would you release it down the road from the lab?
You release it somewhere else.
I was open to all these things as we moved into 2020 because every possibility has to be looked at.
But the more that I looked at the evidence and the more I communicated with people who were going down the road of questioning the very existence of the virus, the more it became clear that there wasn't one.
And if you look at how they've created the illusion that there is, Then, first of all, they're using a test to test for it, which gives them their cases, which is a test that's not testing for the virus.
It's a test which the creator Kerry Mullis said cannot tell if you're sick.
It doesn't test for what's called viral load.
In other words, that you have enough of some agent for you to be sick.
And the The lateral flow test, which they're also using, they're using it in schools and stuff like that, that is so useless that if you test positive with that, you have to have that positive checked with the PCR test, which is actually not testing for an infectious virus.
Then you look at how...
I mean, when has this happened before?
Where they say, if you die of any other cause within 28 days of a positive test with a test not testing for the virus, then COVID-19 goes on your death certificate.
Why did they, when this kicked off, why did they introduce payments in America to hospitals that were Giving a massive financial incentive to diagnose COVID-19 from symptoms that were symptoms of flu and were symptoms of pneumonia.
They are paying them $4,600 if they diagnose regular pneumonia.
$13,000 if they diagnose the same symptoms COVID-19 pneumonia, and $39,000 if they put them on a ventilator, which will almost certainly kill them.
Now, none of these things are necessary if you have a genuine infectious agent that is taking people out.
Then you add to that the information that's now coming to light.
We've covered this a great deal on davidite.com and Iconic.
That the first wave of apparent COVID deaths were manufactured in two ways.
Sorry about this. It's the heat.
First of all, in Britain, and this was the thing that happened in many places around the world, in New York and other American states.
When the thing kicked off in early 2020, Affecting the West, or so it was claimed.
They took tens of thousands of old people who were in hospital, and they were in hospital, not with COVID-19, but because they were ill, they put them in care homes because they said, we've got to free the beds because of the rush of COVID-19 that never actually happened.
And what they did in Britain, through a health secretary called Matt Hancock, in the spring of 2020, they ordered a phenomenal amount, years of supply, of an end-of-life sedative drug called midazolam.
They even went to France and got their supply.
And in that period of the spring of 2020, provable fact, the documentation's there.
An extraordinary increase in the prescribing of midazolam in care homes to old people was got underway.
And midazolam is actually used as part of the execution process in some states in America.
And what happened, if you remember, is lots of old people died and they said it's COVID-19.
Now, one of the key consequences, effects of midazolam, well known, Is causing respiratory distress and respiratory problems.
And they were calling this COVID-19.
In America, where they did the same in New York and these other states, they used another drug called Remdesivir.
And this was a protocol treatment imposed upon the hospitals by the criminal, Antony Fauci.
Who said that anyone in hospital with COVID-19, in other words, they've tested positive with a test not testing for the virus, They must go on this Remdesivir.
And the effect of Remdesivir is to basically destroy the kidneys.
And this has been explained by an American doctor who did a lot of research on this and has given evidence to the Reiner-Fulmich legal inquiry out of Germany on this subject.
What it does, it stops the body Processing water, getting rid of water.
And so what happens is the The central cavity starts filling up with water and the lungs start filling up with water.
And people die of respiratory distress because the lungs are full of water.
And this was a protocol that was imposed upon doctors in New York when this kicked off.
And right at the start, there was an ICU doctor who came out.
He did a video and, of course, it was taken down by the fascists at YouTube.
Google, in which he said, look, we were told to prepare to treat a viral illness, a viral pneumonia illness, but that's not what we're seeing.
This is not something that would be caused basically by a virus.
He said the lungs of these people are akin to being in a plane at 30,000 feet, which suddenly depressurizes and the oxygen goes, or being dropped on the top of a mountain with no acclimatization or oxygen.
That's what you'd expect to see in the lungs of these people.
Well, when you hear it explained, that's going to be an effect of this drug, remdesivir.
And it was put forward in a trial for the treatment of Ebola, this drug.
And it was so destructive to people on the trial that they stopped it.
They stopped it in the trial.
And another study took 53 patients claiming to have COVID-19 and the study was run by Gilead Sciences that makes remdesivir.
They were doing a study on their own drug and even then 30% of the 53 people Got serious side effects, including organ failure, when they took this drug.
And this is the drug that Fauci said must be used to treat patients.
COVID-19, when people are in hospitals.
So again, thousands and thousands of people died in New York hospitals, in Michigan hospitals, and others.
And that was called the COVID first wave in America, as midazolam was the COVID first wave in Britain.
So all the way through from when it kicked off, right the way through to December, January, December of 2020, January 2021, They were making it look like there was a virus causing this illness.
When it was a test not testing for it, it was redesignation of other causes of death as COVID-19.
This is why flu disappeared in the same period.
Flu-like symptoms, COVID-19, flu-like symptoms.
But then, and I'll just finish with this point, but then they started injecting Real health problems with the fake jabs, the fake vaccines that don't fit the designation and definition of a vaccine.
And from when that started, then the people were genuinely getting ill and they were getting ill from the fake jabs.
And part of the effect of injecting synthetic genetic material into people, which is what these jabs are doing, these mRNA jabs, Um...
Is respiratory problems.
And they're calling that COVID-19.
So if you have, if you look around, you'll see these stories where, like, 70-80% of people in hospital with COVID-19 have been double jabbed.
But they're not in hospital with COVID-19.
They're in hospital with the effect of the jab.
And, you know, on my website today, davidike.com, there's, I mean, there's a rugby player, young fella, just dropped dead.
There's a young footballer playing in the FA Youth Cup competition in Britain, which I played himself a long time ago.
And he's just collapsed and now died.
And you're seeing this...
And they obviously never mentioned the jab.
There was an Irish footballer playing for one of the Irish clubs.
A young guy, I think he was about 23, and he just dropped dead with massive problems in the brain, clots in the brain.
And the mainstream media did not mention that it was something like three days or so after...
He had the jab. They just said it's unknown why he died.
Well, I think that we've got a good chance of identifying why he died.
And when you look at the figures in these reporting systems, these vaccine adverse effects and death reporting systems, like the yellow card system in Britain and the VAERS system as they call it in America, the authorities accept that probably no more than 10% of vaccine connected deaths and adverse reactions are actually reported in these systems.
And a Harvard study in 2010 concluded with the VAERS system that it was less than 1% of vaccine-related problems and deaths that were reported.
And yet, in Britain, according to the yellow card system, we've had 1,600 deaths Connected to the jab.
So there's a multiply by 10 at least.
And well, well in excess of a million adverse events.
So the fake virus...
Which they give the illusion of existing, has been used for the real punchline, the real bioweapon, which is the fake vaccine.
And this is why you're seeing this extraordinary hysteria to get everyone fake vaccinated.
With all the free beer, free doughnuts, free entry in a lottery, and then on the other side, the stick, if you don't get fake vaccinated with a shite, then you can't live a normal life, which of course is happening in places like Victoria, very much so. And do you think the vaccine passport that they want to bring in everywhere, and don't forget we're in Australia, so we're about six months behind you lot, normally.
This seems to be like, you know, the path that is going down with the vaccine, you get your passport, and then eventually everything's going to be on this passport.
You think that's a big part of the...
I mean, I've looked at this and if you go back beyond the emergence of so-called COVID-19, and you'll see that in places like the EU and other places, these vaccine passports were already in the pipeline.
They were preparing for this.
Look at China, because I've been saying for decades, if you want to see the West tomorrow, look at China today, because that's the blueprint.
You have. What they did, this global cult that's behind this that I've been exposing for 30 years, they were behind the Mao revolution.
And what they were creating was a closed society for a very, very long time in which a method of total global control of the population could be incubated.
So in the West, where they still, until now, of course, had to pay lip service to some kind of freedom, they could move this forward much slower.
But in China, where what the government says goes and is imposed by force, I mean, you know, see Australia now, they could push it as fast as they wanted.
And what they've developed in China, and this is coming around to the vaccine passports, Is this social credit system, where because they have millions of cameras in their cities that are charting people's behavior in real time, They have this system where if you live your life as the government wants you to and insists you do, then you get credit.
And if you don't, then the credit's taken away.
And eventually, if enough are taken away, well, you don't go on aircraft, you don't go on trains.
Your life basically becomes...
Anything but what you would accept as normal up to that point.
Now, you look at the vaccine passports.
It's the Chinese social credit system.
It is. It's happening. They're saying, if you do what we want, which is to put your life at risk and certainly put your health at risk on a monumental scale, then you can do certain things.
Not what we're telling you you can do, but you'll do more than you will if you don't do it, because you'll be going against what we want to do, which is basically kill lots of new and transform the genetics of those that survive.
So that's what it is.
And it's globally coordinated.
This is a global cult with a central, if you like, mission control that I call the spider.
And on the health front, it's created a web with the World Health Organization at the center, which was created by the Rockefeller family in 1948, which is absolutely cult to its DNA. And so, from that central point, with this utter criminal, Ted Ross, the Director General, a Gates clone, they are dictating global policy, and that whole thing is being centrally coordinated.
So, you look at this fascistic psychopath, Daniel Andrews, well, fascistic psychopathic moron, Daniel Andrews, and this lady who gives him a good run for his money when it comes to being moronic, and Good for nothing, Gladys.
Yeah, Gladys.
And then you look at what's happening in Britain.
They've just announced that at the end of the month, basically in early October, you're not going to be able to go to football matches and sporting events and concerts and these things unless you've been fake jabbed.
And the same is happening in all parts of the world because it's centrally coordinated.
This is the Chinese social credit system going global.
And it's been planned for a very long time.
So the desperation to get this jab into people is because of its depopulation agenda.
And for those that survive, it's genetic transformation agenda.
But there's another part of this, which is that the genetic transformation agenda is designed to move the body.
I've been writing about this for years.
From a biological state to a much more synthetic state.
And that's why these mRNA vaccines are putting synthetic genetic material into the body, which is self-replicating.
So with every day and week, people have been jabbed.
It's impacting on their body more and more.
And the human 2.0, which is this...
Synthetic human, if you like, much more synthetic human, is not designed to procreate.
This is what Huxley was talking about, Aldous Huxley in Brave New World in 1932.
He was. This cult and the world of the population have two completely different timelines in terms of understanding technology and what's possible.
And so he was coming from a level, Aldous Huxley, kind of an insider family of knowledge.
And some of the technology, like technological womb technology that he was writing about, they're now bringing in.
And so lots of things come from this because every dot connects in the end.
First of all, they want to phase out human 1.0, the biological human.
So you then look at all the doctors and scientists that have warned that these fake jabs will delete fertility.
In both men, but particularly women.
And we've had lots of miscarriages, of course, of people who have been jabbed.
So the ability to procreate is being attacked by these fake jabs because they want to phase out the human 1.0.
You then look at the catastrophic Plummeting of sperm counts around the world, particularly in the West.
I mean, when I was a kid, I was born in 1952, you never heard of fertility clinics.
Now it's a global industry. No, he didn't.
So this is all part of the phasing in.
And then you look at the transgender agenda, which came out of nowhere and is suddenly everywhere.
The transgender activist thinks it's about transgender.
Well, I've got news for them.
It's not! They've just been playing like a stringed instrument.
This is not about transgender.
This is about the no-gender human.
And they're targeting the kids.
Particularly small kids, to confuse their perception of gender.
So instead of man and woman, now it's just confusing everything and making everything fluid.
And the confusion of gender is a stepping stone towards the fusion of gender and the no gender human.
And, you know...
It's been pointed out that this synthetic genetic material is being passed on through the sperm.
First of all, if you're married to someone who's had the jab and you haven't, well, you've had it if you have sex with your partner.
And so through the sperm, this stuff's being passed on to the next generation.
And as one doctor points out that's been looking at this whole area, Young people today who have this jab are going to grow up into a child-producing, child-bearing age, and they're going to realize they can't because this is what's going on.
And so it's absolutely vital.
I can't impress this upon people in Australia and everywhere enough that whatever consequences they throw at you and throw at me and all of us, There's none that is as sinister and as horrific as having the jab and conforming to what they're saying, because that's the end of it then.
You just touched on Australia.
Have you been looking at what's happening in Australia?
What do you think?
Yeah, well, I was banned from Australia, of course.
I know, I know, because I was going to come and see you.
I was going to talk in six Australian cities and point out that this fascist state was coming.
And so, you know, I didn't get the chance.
But anyway, what...
Well, it was the totalitarian tiptoe, as you've always said.
It's actually a run now.
I said it a couple of books ago, the tiptoe is now a sprint because they've reached a point Of centralisation of power where they think they can go for it.
And it really started to really kick off with 9-11.
And it's worked up and worked up.
Now they think they can go for the endgame now.
And, you know, Australia, because you're just coming out of your winter, aren't you?
Yeah. And we're just on our way into our autumn winter now.
And Australia is a blueprint.
When you look at Australia, that's how they want everywhere to be.
And I say to people in the Northern Hemisphere, if you don't want that, then you've got to start pushing back seriously.
And by pushing back, I mean simply not cooperating with what you're told to do.
Because there's not enough people to impose it if people did that.
Yeah. And so, again, if we are adult and mature and we look at what we're facing, I've been trying to get across all these decades to people, and I understand why it's difficult.
The scale of pure evil we're talking about, and evil for me, I define evil as the absence of love.
If you look at evil, if you look at psychopathy, you look at narcissism, all of these describe the people and the cult behind this.
They all lack empathy.
They have no ability to put themselves in the emotional consequences of those they affect.
So they have no fail-safe mechanism.
You know, we would consider doing something and then we think, well, hold on a minute.
Look at the effect this is going to have on these people.
We can't do that. That's empathy.
That's the fail-safe mechanism of human behavior.
These people don't have that.
So first of all, we have to grasp the scale of empathy-deleted evil, where considering the consequences for others is basically a joke for these people.
And then we have to consider where we're at, like I've just described with this fake jab.
This is about depopulating people on a vast scale over the next two to three years as this self-replicating genetic material, synthetic genetic material, has more and more impact.
And not only that, As people have more and more of these fake vaccines.
In this country now, they're rolling out a booster.
In Israel, which is to a very large extent the blueprint of the jab, They're now rolling out a third, and the guy running the coronavirus response in Israel says that a fourth is on its way.
And Fauci in America is saying every eight months you have another one.
So more and more of this genetic material is going into the body.
I mean, people have begun to...
We're going to be falling likewise.
And because the impact has such a spectrum of impact, it's not that people are going to be going down with one thing or another thing.
It's a raft of things that, in fact, ultimately, you're in the realms of who knows what the effect is going to be.
You know the effect in many areas, but in the end, the effect is unknown to the public, given It helps them hide it a bit more too, don't they, if they've got all these different symptoms.
And just on that, do you think they jump too early?
Because obviously it looks like they thought everyone would jump on board.
That's why they're acting. Clearly people don't want it.
Do you think that they jump too early or what's your opinion there?
Well, I think they've underestimated how quick the pushback has started.
I don't think they expected it at least until next year, but it has.
And, you know, you can censor as much as you like the mainstream internet, and that's...
Very simply explained.
Why are the Silicon Valley giants, like the fascists at Facebook and Twitter and Google, etc., why did they announce right at the start that they were going to censor information that challenged the World Health Organization version?
Well, many reasons.
One of them is the version coming out of the World Health Organization, thus the The so-called health pyramids in every country is so ludicrous and so unsupportable by the evidence and the science that the only way of protecting it is to censor it being dismantled.
And then you realize that this cult web It controls the World Health Organization and it also controls Facebook, indeed seed funded it, and Twitter and all these organizations.
So that's why one arm of the cult in Silicon Valley is defending the narrative of another arm of the cult in the World Health Organization.
Necessity is the mother of invention, as they say.
And what's happened is other platforms and video platforms and social media platforms have emerged.
People have had their own experience.
I mean, I know of a considerable number of people who've had either serious adverse effects of this jab or have died having had it.
And yet, all the way through that period of the pandemic in the spring of 2020 onwards, I never met anyone who'd frickin' at it.
We've interviewed funeral directors.
We say that in that period, there wasn't any significant change in the number of people dying and going through their businesses.
But in the from the January of 2021, when they started really whacking out this vaccine,
one one funeral director said, I've never seen anything like it in terms of the numbers going
through. And but but despite all the efforts at censorship, it's still getting out there.
It's still getting out there.
The people who have self-respect Who don't just believe what they're told and act like nodding dogs and sheep and do what they're told without question.
Those who've got the self-respect to say, well, okay, this is what they're saying, so I'm going to check this out.
They're the ones that are not having it.
And, you know, that is a big division, you know.
It really is a division between the awakened who can see it and the asleep that can't.
It's self-respect.
Yeah. That's a good point.
What about having some self-respect for your kids?
Yeah, the whole kid thing is disgusting.
Self-respect says, I'm not doing something because you tell me.
I'm doing it because I've decided that it's the right thing because I've checked it out.
No self-respect says, I'm going to do whatever you tell me without question.
And once self-respect has gone, only submission is left.
And what they're doing, you know, because this is all a psychological game.
In the end, it's all about controlling perception so you control behaviour.
They are, I mean, two things.
One, have you noticed all the morons in positions of power at this time?
We have a moron in Britain called Daniel Andrews.
He's multiplying.
You have, well, he's like Daniel Andrews, but without coming, he's there, really.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's Daniel Andrews, moron.
There's Gladys, moron.
What about that chief medical officer in Queensland?
Don't talk to your neighbours.
I mean, it's clinical insanity.
You're right. Trudeau in Canada.
Oh, yeah. That guy's...
Then you've got Biden, who's clearly senile.
Biden, Biden. This is psychological.
We had this guy, Matt Hancock, who did the Manazelam mass murder.
I mean, the man's a moron.
And around him are morons.
But this is the psychological game.
If they put morons in power, not power, in symbolic power, and you still do what they tell you, then they've deleted your self-respect.
And in another sense, and related to that, they want you to see That what they're saying and doing and imposing makes no sense.
They want you to see the contradictions.
They want you to see that it makes no scientific sense, that it makes no health sense, that it makes no...
I mean, oh, someone's just tested positive with a test not testing for the virus.
Lock down everybody!
I mean, it's insane. The thing is, if they can let you see it's a nonsense, but you still believe it.
Your self-respect is in their hands.
And this is why the awakening...
And, you know, the people pushing back in Australia, they're fantastic people because of the pressure on them not to.
Fantastic people. We're going to face all this coming up as well in the Northern Hemisphere.
But... Those people have retained their self-respect.
That's why they're doing what they're doing.
And we have to hold that line.
And no matter what they throw at us, no matter what intimidation they throw at us, I keep saying there's no scenario that is worse for you and your kids than having this jab, because that's the end of it.
So you would have seen over the years, Dave, that more and more people, especially the last two years, have started to come on board, wake up.
So do you feel like there is a big awakening happening?
Oh, yes.
You know, I hear people, I do understand it, you know, in the alternative video, maybe come in later, and they say, oh, why aren't people waking up faster, right?
I do understand why they say that, but I would say, you should have been with me in 1991.
Compared with that, There is a phenomenal awakening going.
And it is spiritual.
Not religious, it's spiritual.
I mean, COVID's the bloody religion, it's the new religion of the world.
It's spiritual in the sense of...
I've been writing for years that what this cult wants to do is to isolate people's attention and perception only in the five senses.
The world of can I see it, touch it, hear it, and all that stuff.
five-sense mind from the greater consciousness which would give them a much greater panorama
and fix of how it all works.
Because what's happening is the asleep are alcatrazed in their five senses.
And what they do is they receive information from the government and the authorities.
And it's not a source of information to be played off and processed with other sources of information.
The information becomes a perception by definition.
The government tells me this is what's going on.
The BBC tells me what this is going on.
And you have one of the worst medias in the world.
I mean, if ours is bad, God, you know, the Australian media.
It's shocking down here. And New Zealand, by the way.
Oh, that's even worse. Oh, yeah.
Ministry of Truth.
The information becomes a perception by definition, whereas awakened people, what they do is they take all different sources of information and they form a conclusion from it.
Which is their conclusion.
And you can only do that when you're in a more expanded state of consciousness, because the five senses are basically like a computer.
They just decode information.
And it's the wider consciousness that filters the information and connects the dots, concludes what it means.
Whereas the five senses, they're basically a computer.
The five senses is like pressing enter, if that's all you're at.
And so what they have worked to do is to isolate people in the five senses and disconnect them from the wider consciousness.
And you can see that so clearly in the difference between the asleep and the awakening.
They have a completely different way of seeing the world.
So we have these marches in London every month, and hundreds and hundreds of thousands now come.
It's a joy. I mean, it's laughter.
It's love. It's, you know, light, high energy.
Celebration, yeah. You see the people in the face nappies, you know, in this state of kind of this black cloud that follows them around.
And even in the demeanor of these two groups, it's very clear that they are in completely different states of perception.
It's true. You definitely know it, you feel it, and you can see it in people.
And you probably find this all the time.
You have to have two different conversations depending on who you're talking to.
You cannot talk on the same language.
There's a really good subject that you talk about in the perception deception, and you bring in the whole theory about archons.
Which I think is what this is really about.
You talk about the Archon and this is how they operate, you know, by manipulating people's perception.
Where did you come up with the whole Archon theory?
Was that something you researched from...
Yeah, absolutely.
The last thing I do is sit pulling it out of ether.
You get insight like that.
You get insight, you get intuitive knowing, but then you apply that knowing in gathering five cents information to support it.
So what happened is that in the early 90s, I realized that this cult existed.
I realized the foundations of its agenda, which we're now seeing.
And then I asked the question, well, when did this start?
Because this is obviously not, you know, it didn't start last week.
You follow this cult back into the ancient world.
You can get comfortably back to Babylon and Sumer in what is now Iraq.
And you can come, and it goes back further.
And it comes forward.
And became the Roman Empire.
Then it moved into Northern Europe and became the British Empire and the European empires.
And it's very relevant to Australia.
What the colonial empires of Europe did, especially the British, was to take this cult power grid, this power web, Right across the world.
That's what colonialism was.
And when apparently, on the surface, they gave independence to the former colonies, that's not actually what happened.
They went from covert control, which has a finite time.
If you have covert control, unless it's done technologically and you've got complete control of the mind, which is what connecting AI to the human brain is all about, Then eventually, it might take some time, people who know their situation are going to rebel against it.
Because colonial power was moving into these countries and people could see who was in control and who was running it.
It was the colonial power.
People had no illusions about who was in control because it was obvious.
But when you move to covert power, Where you're running the show but people can't see it.
You've persuaded them that something called democracy means that they're running it.
Then you can do that for as long as you want because people overwhelmingly won't rebel unless you reach the point where it becomes obvious like now.
They won't rebel because there are things they need to rebel about.
They might complain about this party or that party or this politician or that politician but they can't see that actually there's a force behind them that's actually running the show.
And so, when they rolled back, apparently, the colonial empires, they left out in those countries, Australia, like everywhere else, the secret society networks and...
The subsidiary of the web that operate in each country.
And they've gone on running those countries ever since.
They decide who gets to power in politics, who runs this, who runs that.
Whereas people think that they are voting and they're deciding the outcome.
Well, take the British example now.
We have Boris Johnson of the Conservative Party, well, allegedly, who has imposed extreme levels of fascism on Britain.
And the opposition party, the Labour Party, is opposing Johnson on the basis that Johnson has not gone far enough.
So, who do you vote for?
You know, as someone brilliantly said, don't vote, it only encourages them.
We're not going to change anything through the voting political system, because this cult's got control of all these major parties that have been chanced at forming a government.
We have to do it by non-cooperation, because it's our cooperation, and only by our cooperation that the few can control the many.
So, the...
I looked at how far it went back and how it came through the colonial era and then into the globalization era.
And the globalization era is the constant centralization of global power.
It's the cult agenda for total global control moving on under the name of globalization.
And then I asked the question, I'm coming around to the Archon stuff now.
Well, You look at this history and you look at people being born, playing a part in it, dying.
Other people are born, play a part in it, dying.
There has to be a coordinating force that's coordinating all this through this whole period.
You know, you can't just do it by people coming in and going out.
There has to be some force behind it that's directing everything.
And then I started looking around the world at different religions and different cultures, non-religious cultures, shamanistic streams, etc.
Aboriginal people in Australia, all these different groups.
And you find an amazing common theme.
And that is of a non-human force, a force of consciousness in the end, that's what it is, that is seeking to impose its will on humanity.
So you look at Christianity and they talk about the devil and Satan and the demons.
You look at the Gnostics, which were not mainstream Christianity, and they, in phenomenal texts found in an earthen jar in 1945 at Nagamadi, near 75, 80 miles in New York.
They had these incredible texts they left, and it's reckoned they were put in that jar around the 400 AD period.
I've got books and translations up there of them.
And a fifth of the texts talk about archons, which is a Greek word meaning rulers.
And their devil is called Yaldabaoth, the same principle as the Christian devil, Christian Satan.
And the archons are the same principle as the Christian demons.
Then you look at the jinn in Islamic belief and part of the jinn story is the manipulation of humanity from the unseen.
I was in a taxi going from New York to airport to the city one day when I was really researching the archons thing.
And he was a Muslim taxi driver.
And he said to me, what do you do?
I said, well, you know, I write books and I research.
Oh, yeah, what are you writing about? I said, well, I'm just researching something about the archons.
Oh, what are they? And I explained the background.
And he said, well, that sounds like the djinn.
Yeah, it is.
It's the same thing.
And then, and this is where I've gone now.
I've just had a book published called...
Perceptions of a renegade mind.
And the last chapter I think is one of the most important I've ever written.
It's called Escaping Wetiko.
And Wetiko is the Native American name for the demons, the archons, etc.
Because... The Cree tribal group in America have this name, Wotiko, for this, what they perceive as like a mind virus.
By the way, what is COVID except the mind virus?
Exactly right. The mind virus.
Not a real one, it's a mind virus.
And so I looked at these different things, these different names, but they were describing the same thing.
And that was of a very chaotic, inverted, quote, evil absence of love.
Consciousness that was manipulating human society and was seeking to draw human perception.
That means the human frequency.
Every time we think or have an emotional feeling, we're generating a frequency.
And if you can be brought into low vibrational states of mind and states of emotion...
Then you're brought into a low vibrational state.
This is why when people are in a state of anxiety or depression or, you know, worry, they say, I feel so heavy today.
It's because of the low, slow nature of the vibration of their energetic field.
And the idea is to pull the energetic fields of humans into these low frequency states because then they enter the Wetiko frequency.
And then Wotiko can make a frequency attachment and start to control the perceptions of the population.
So what Wotiko is trying to do is get into the subconscious, the subconscious realms around the five senses, and shut them off from the greater consciousness, but through the subconscious, feed perceptions into the five sense mind.
And as they feed through from the subconscious to the conscious, people think they're having their own thoughts and opinions.
You will have noticed when people who have bought the COVID story...
They say, I'll give you my opinion of what's going on.
And then what comes out of their mouth is the official narrative, virtually word for word, because it's not their opinion.
There's an amazing video on david.com today.
I've just been watching it. And it's very simple.
They took these three...
What they call internet influences or YouTube influences.
And they get them to do certain things.
They think they're doing something else.
And what they had to do was to come up with a They were given lots of items and they had to pick the item that they wanted to feature.
And the question was, produce an image and a catch line to post on Instagram that you think would get most views and promote this thing most effectively.
So they all went away individually.
And then they came back and they had their picture on their camera with a tagline.
And the guy said to them, can you tell me this, tell me that, and did you do this, did you do that?
Put your hand up when I say what you've done.
And he said something, and all three put their hand up.
And they think, well, we've all done the same, right?
And then they go to the picture.
And the pictures are all the same.
And they've picked from this big group of products.
They could have picked any of them to do the picture as a promotion.
They picked the same product, which was basically like an ice tray in a fridge.
And then, what the guy did, he said before they went off to do this, I've got a picture behind this curtain and I'm going to show it to you.
I'm going to show it to you when you come back.
They had a number of different set-up studio locations to do the product, to present the product.
They all chose the same studio location.
So they did everything the same.
And he said, well, I'm going to show you this picture.
And he pulls the curtain back.
And it's the picture.
They've all done.
And it's in the location they did it.
With the product that they did it with.
And then he went back...
And he went back because he did a setup when he was talking to them before they went off.
And he said, this is why you did it.
And it was just lines just thrown away as part of the conversation.
And this had gone into their subconscious and manifested as what they thought was.
It was their conscious decision to do what they did, but they all made the same conscious decision because they'd all picked up the same subliminal, below-conscious triggers that the guy had given them.
Now, when you think that's one guy doing a little video, it is phenomenal to watch, but look at the COVID era and the 24-7 bombardment of propaganda all over the world Every radio advertisement slot, every television advertisement slot, all this.
And we have a mesmerized, programmed population that is little more than a computer system with the authorities pressing enter.
And that tells you that if you are awakened beyond the five senses, Then this stuff doesn't affect you in the same way.
And I'll give you an example of what I mean.
This is why it is so important, like you guys are doing, to get this information into the public arena where it can be heard and seen by the conscious mind.
Because those that are awakening and acting in a different way They're doing so because over a period, the manipulation and the networks of manipulation have been taken from their subconscious and put before their conscious mind because they have obviously sought out alternative sources of information.
So whereas the population that's buying the whole thing It's not done that.
So the manipulation of them is all happening in their subconscious, just like those three influences.
And they're not aware of it.
It's subliminal, and so it controls them.
But when you take the subliminal and you put it before the conscious mind, the subliminal, when it becomes conscious, no longer affects you.
And I'll give you a quick example.
I used a picture in one or two books, and it's of just some plants.
But there's a very obvious, well, obvious when you can see it, subliminal in it.
And you show it to people and something like 95% can't see the subliminal image.
But then you point it out.
And what it is, is in the white bits between the plants is very clear the word sex.
And the point I'm making here is whenever, once it's pointed out, Whenever people see that picture, again, ever, could be 10 years hence, the first thing they see is the word sex.
Because the subliminal has been brought to the attention of the conscious mind, and therefore the subliminal no longer manipulates the conscious mind, because the conscious mind's aware of it.
This is what's happening with the symbolism.
You know the symbols they put all around us, the pyramid and all the seeing eye and all this stuff?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talking to the subconscious, that's why they do it.
But when you become aware that this is happening, these symbols exist and what they're doing, they cease to have an impact upon it.
It's funny, isn't it? And it's almost like you can't unsee it.
Once you see it, you can't unsee it.
It all seems so obvious.
Exactly. That's why they want to shut the information down.
They don't want the conscious mind to be made aware of what's happening.
Exactly. So do you think, Dave, this is almost like a spiritual war going on at the same time?
Well, I don't like to use the word war, but there's a spiritual tussle going on.
There's a tussle for the kind of world this is.
And when you think about it, your perceptions come from information received.
That can be the 10 o'clock news, a Facebook post, a personal experience, or it can be inspiration and insight and intuition you're getting from another level of your consciousness.
So it's information that forms perception and perception forms behavior.
We behave as we do because we perceive as we do.
And what we call human society is just the sum total of human behavior, which is sum total of human perception.
And so we have to take control of our perceptions back.
And if we stay only in five sense perceptual reality, Then, overwhelmingly, we are not going to take our perceptions back.
Our perceptions are going to be given to us.
It's the expansion of awareness beyond the five senses.
That makes you go and look at alternative websites and seek out alternative information.
The Five Sense Alcatraz will just listen to the BBC and Channel 9 and all this stuff.
It won't go and use its self-respect because it's basically just a computer system.
So on that sense, it's...
It's a battle of perception.
It's a tussle of perception.
And because perception manifests as a frequency field, a waveform frequency field, This is why, you know, like I said, when you're in a low vibrational state, you feel so heavy.
And when you're in a joyful, loving, optimistic perceptual state, you say things like, oh, I feel so light today.
Because you are generating a much quicker, faster, more expanded frequency, thus you feel lighter.
Your energy is vibrating quicker.
And as it vibrates quicker, it starts to connect with higher vibrational levels of consciousness, and the whole process goes on.
And what Wetiko is seeking to do through its human manifestations like Gates and Fauci and Klaus Schwab and all these people and the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, all this garbage.
It's trying to pull you into low frequency states because they can attach to you.
When you're in a higher frequency state, Wetiko can't attach to you.
It's like two radio stations on different wavelengths.
They can't connect. And that's why the awakened, who by being awakening, are in a much higher frequency state.
That's why they can see things beyond Wotiko, without Wotiko's influence.
I can see what's happening.
And asleep of being Wotiko, they can't.
Because they...
Their perceptions are being dictated by this low vibrational inverted state of consciousness.
And when I say inverted, that's what Wetiko is.
It's inverted. That's why the world's inverted.
Everything's inverted. You look at Satanism, for instance.
Which is Wetiko.
It's an expression of Wetiko.
And they even use inverted symbols like the inverted cross and the inverted pentagram.
Everything is inverted.
You look at the Covid era and it's about health when it's actually about destroying health.
Everything is inverted.
Well, it's like the word live, you know, the opposite is evil, you know, it's the inversion.
So just on that point, do you see like a split happening, you know, between the sort of higher vibrations, people that are awake in the lower, you know, there's the talk of a new earth and things like that.
How do you see that? Yeah, I mean, you know, I've been on this case for a long time.
From the first book I ever wrote off and my head blew off.
It was published in 1991.
I wrote it in 1990. It's called Truth Vibrations.
Truth Vibrations, I was going to say.
Yeah, I read it. It was about...
How a vibrational change was coming that was going to impact on people.
I was going to wake them up. And I called it truth vibrations because it was said to have two effects, two main effects.
One, it was going to wake people up from their slumber.
Well, I mean, the numbers now are phenomenal.
And it was also going to bring to the surface all that had been hidden from us.
Now, when I wrote that book in 1990, there was absolutely no evidence whatsoever that all that had been hidden was going to be shown to us.
But now look at it. Look at what we know now.
We didn't know in 1990.
I mean, it's unbelievable.
It's ridiculous. Yeah, for sure.
So this is happening.
And obviously, the more awake, the less we're T-Code are going to be affected first.
But what we've reached, you know, you talk about this division, what we've reached is a point where a single decision is revealing your perceptual state.
A single decision.
And that's whether to have the fake vaccine or not.
Those that have it because they're told they should have it and don't question what's in it, including doctors, by the way.
What's in it? Oh, I don't know.
You're giving it to people.
They are obviously in a very low perceptual state, vibrational state.
They've been with Tico. Then you've got people that don't want it, but bow to peer pressure, family pressure, whatever, to have it.
They've been with Tico.
And then you have the people who are saying, I'm not having it.
Because I've actually looked at what's in it.
I've looked at what doctors that are censored in the mainstream internet are saying, I'm not having it.
They've not been with Tika.
And this is why you're seeing this division.
And this is why also that the cult, through its various agencies of government and law enforcement and so on, are targeting the ones that won't have the fake jab, because they know that the decision to have it or not have it is virtually the ultimate statement of where you are perceptually.
So those who have not had it, they know They're the only people that are going to turn this around.
Because the asleep aren't, the programmed administrators of government and authority aren't, The gophers, the morons, like Andrews and Gladys.
And of course, the psychopaths are running it on, so that leaves this group.
And so that's why they're targeted.
And for the next two years or so, they are going to attack that group with demonization and sanctions.
That would make, in many ways, Nazi Germany look like a Tea Party, really.
But the point is that it's not just about Humans' embodiment now are turning this around.
I've known for 30 years there's other forces at work, other levels of consciousness at work, who do have a plan to bring this to an end.
It will come to an end. It will.
It will. And by 2024, we are going to start to see obvious signs that this cult is coming down.
Because its foundation...
It's control of the energy field that we all live in.
You know, the human senses, the five senses again, like the sight senses, They decode reality within a tiny, laughably narrow band of frequency.
So when people look through their eyes and they think they're seeing everything there is to see in that space, they're not.
They're seeing what's in that band of frequency, like a radio station, television station.
So the band of frequency that the sight senses decode is basically that of what we call form, holographic form in truth.
So I'm looking around the room and I'm seeing a filing cabinet, a computer, a light.
And I'm seeing empty space between them, because that's what the sight senses do.
They see everything as apart from everything else, because they can only see into the energy field a certain very tiny amount, and that tiny amount relates to form.
So we see the form, we don't see what's between the form.
So we perceive it's empty space.
But actually, if you could see further into the field of the visual field, you would see that everything is connected by a field of energy consciousness.
Think of an ocean.
What connects all the fish and the sea life?
The ocean. And so if you want to control or affect all the fish and sea life, At the same time, you don't target them individually.
You change the nature of the sea.
And by changing the nature of the sea, you're changing the nature of them because they're all interacting with it.
And so what this Wetiko is seeking to do is control this field that we're all living in.
It wants it in a low vibrational state because we're interacting with it just like a computer interacts with Wi-Fi.
And therefore, our vibrational state is affecting the field, and the field's vibrational state is affecting us if we allow it.
And so what Watiko wants is the field in a low vibrational state.
So another bonus of manipulating humans into low vibrational states is not just that you bring them into five sense reality.
You are creating generators of low vibrational frequencies that are being fed into the field, into the sea.
And other people are being affected by it.
But the reverse is true.
As the frequency of the field rises, then that affects humans in the opposite way.
And so, you know, to be absolutely frank and blunt, enormous numbers of people worldwide who've had this jab are not going to live a long life.
They're not, because they're not meant to.
And as they do so, their effect on the field is going to be diminished.
The impact of those awakening is going to increase.
And this is what the truth vibrations is.
It's an infusion of high vibrational energy, what we call love in its true sense, into this field.
And its frequency is rising.
Now, this process of awakening People generating low vibrational frequencies passing on, not disappearing, passing on to another reality.
That's what all death is.
The body has a cycle, but we have eternity, whoever we are.
And this process of high vibrational energy coming in, this process, as it unfolds over the next, I don't know what, three, four years, It's going to change the nature of human society.
And what's going to happen is that the energy source of Wotika, which is actually committing suicide with these Japs itself, The energy source that feeds it, which is low vibrational human mental and emotional states, is going to be diminishing and higher frequency states are going to take their place and Wotiko is going to get weaker and weaker and weaker because it's lost its energy source.
I mean, Wotiko is basically what was described in the Matrix movies as the machines.
When the Morpheus character held up the battery and said, the machines have turned humans into one of these, the battery.
Look at those machines in the Matrix.
What were they doing? They were feeding off the energy of humans, the energy of babies, weren't they?
Because we generate phenomenal amounts of energy, all of us, all the time, at frequencies, with our thoughts and our emotions.
This is the process of the field changing.
As the field changes, that which is attached to the field must change.
This is going to happen.
We're in for some brutal challenges in the next couple of years.
I think that's interesting what you say because Yeah, that's part of what we do is we just say, whatever you're contributing to the field, you know, if you're contributing fear and hate and darkness, then that's what is going out there.
That's why we say, in fact, you're better off laughing at them half the time.
Laughing at them.
You know their biggest fear is not being taken seriously.
That's why I just take the mick out of these people.
We should lose the idea that they're all powerful.
Their power comes in the power that humanity gives to them in acquiescence every day.
And their power to control information so that what they don't want the public to know, the public don't get access to unless they go and look for it.
So they control the education system, which is a programming system, they control the media, they control Silicon Valley through all the censorship, because they want to keep humanity in ignorance of what the cult knows.
The cult only has power in terms of knowledge, because it hoards knowledge.
This is what secret societies are all about, hoarding knowledge and passing it on to the chosen few through the generations and keeping the public in ignorance of it.
That's the power. I mean, you can describe it very accurately, the dynamic between the cult and the population, as in the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
They're just the one-eyed man.
Well, actually, appropriately, given their symbolism.
But they've made humans blind, and that's the dynamic, and that's why they're terrified of humans waking up and getting access to the knowledge that the secret societies have, because they've lost their advantage then.
Let's lose the idea that these people are incredibly bright.
Have you seen Bill Gates?
Daniel Andrews, Gladys and all these people.
All these people.
No, they're not.
They're freaking idiots. And we need to laugh at them and not take them seriously.
I mean, take seriously what they're trying to do, but not take them seriously because they're idiots.
And they're not skilled people.
Their only ability...
Is manipulation of the population.
That's their ability. They don't have creativity.
You know, the Gnostic writings we talked about from Nag Hammadi, they say the archons do not have what they call intentionality.
In other words, what I would call creative creativity.
Creativity. If you look at Gates, Gates did not come up with all this technology that's made in a multi-billionaire company.
Same with Zuckerberg.
Zuckerberg, the same.
None of these people are the creatives.
They are the manipulators of the creatives to give them power.
Now, you look at...
Facebook. When you go onto Facebook, you are agreeing that they have joint copyright of your creativity.
So they're feeding off the creativity of humans, who have tremendous creativity, because they don't have it.
We're not dealing with all-powerful intellectual giants.
We're dealing with morons that know how to manipulate people, and that's their only belief.
So let's not give them power they don't deserve.
They're a bunch of prats.
When we stop acquiescing to a bunch of Prats, the game is over.
Well, like you said, that's their only power, you know, and it's very tenuous, you know, like...
They've just got to hold on to it as soon as, you know, the secret's out, then they lose it all, pretty much.
They're terrified. I've been saying this for years.
They are terrified of humans awakening because they know the game's over then.
They've got nothing they can put forward once humans get an understanding of what these bunch of prats know.
Once that knowledge advantage has gone, it's over.
And they know that. They're terrified.
Because there's so few of them.
You know, you get the core of the core of the core of them into one room.
And they're manipulating billions of people.
Why? Because they impose their will down the hierarchical pyramid.
And at every level, right down to the general population, the level below the level above acquiesces to the level above.
Where's the population saying we're not doing it?
You know, you don't have to be violent.
You don't have to even scream no.
You just have to mean it.
Stop relying on the system.
Say it with a smile.
Say it with a smile on your face.
Yeah, because they don't know how to handle that.
No, they don't. They don't know how to handle people who aren't intimidated by them because intimidation is their only weapon.
Intimidation being a form of fear, it's their only weapon.
And if you don't bow to their intimidation, they don't know what to do with you.
They don't. It's true.
Hence all the censorship of anything that does that.
I can't speak out and offend people these days.
That's what will happen.
Political correctness is manipulating the population to censor itself.
That's what political correctness is.
Yeah, exactly. I can see that.
What's the way out of here?
Well, you don't do anything they say that they can't support with evidence to show that it's justified, which is virtually everything they ever say.
And you don't be politically correct.
You know, political correctness is a massive form of censorship.
I won't be censored. People don't like it.
We'll do the other thing. I'm a bit bewildered because I don't think I have the capacity to be offended, which is...
Same here. What if I misgender you, though, Dave?
Because, you know, this is an important point, you know.
The whole process is manipulating people to give their power away so they don't have it.
And what is...
What is being offended?
It's giving you power away.
Because you're saying, I'm offended, right?
Okay, but that's a choice.
Just because this bloke said something about you, doesn't mean you have to be offended.
He said it, and you've made the choice to be offended.
And in being offended, you've given power over your emotional state.
To the person who you say has offended you.
Now, if they hurl abuse at you and you say, well, thanks for sharing that with us.
Have a nice day. First of all, you've taken his power away because he's not had an impact on you.
But you've not given your power to him.
So being offended is a means of giving your power to that which you are offended by.
And being offended is just a choice.
Make another choice.
Totally. There's a brilliant...
I don't know if you've heard of the Aussie comedian Steve Hughes.
Oh, Steve Hughes, yeah.
Nothing happens. Be offended.
Nothing happens. Your arm doesn't fall off.
You're going to get leprosy. That was a brilliant set that he did on political correctness.
It was perfect.
And it sums it up beautifully.
It's exactly where it's at.
I think we've gone a little bit over time, yes.
Yes. So thank you, Heath, for your time.
Now, I hear that you might be a new granddad.
Is that correct? Yes.
I'm a double granddad.
Oh, there you go. Congratulations.
Yes. My sons have had babies recently.
Yeah. Some of the new generation.
What we did is we worked out that one way we could defeat these people was to outnumber the bastards.
Have lots of babies. Get out there and root for the world.
And probably one last thing, Dave, because I know you're a football man.
Ronaldo in the Premier League?
I think that's a good thing.
I like Renato because as footballers go, he's got his own mind, hasn't he?
I remember him saying that the PCR test was bullshit when he tested positive for the third time.
Juventus. He's got a bit more reminded of his own.
I like that.
He's a phenomenal player.
I mean, Manchester United...
We have our problems because I was launching a book called Everything You Need to Know But Have Never Been Told.
And we were launching it at one of the function rooms at Old Trafford.
And they pulled it on the morning of the event with people coming from around the world, people having, you know, coming along.
And including a number of Man United fans, and they pulled it on the say-so of people who said I was going to be racist.
Well, I haven't been so far, so that was going to be a first that night.
And the thing is, they never told us, they told the media.
And when Jamie, my son, went across to Old Trafford to say what the hell's going on, he was escorted by security off the premises.
So Manchester United, for me, do not have class.
But I think Ronaldo's a very good acquisition for him.
Yeah, well, it's going to make the Premier League quite fun to watch.
Well, thank you very much for your time, Dave.
We really appreciate it. Thank you.
Superb information.
Yeah, actually, you've stopped at just the right time because about another 10 minutes, I'd have looked like the angel of God.
The brightness comes up and takes the room over.
Thank you again, Dave.
See you mate.
The coronavirus pandemic started in China.
Oxygen, medical supplies and food stamps have been cut.
One of the five vaccines envisioned.
Stage one you create a problem.
It could be a manufactured virus.
You want a reaction and you want them to either say, do something, or you want them to accept what the authorities suggest must be done.
So one of the agendas is to massively cull the population.
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