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Aug. 24, 2021 - David Icke
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The 'Coronavirus' - David Icke Speaks To Cafe Weltschmerz
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Welcome to Café Weltschmerz. My name is Erik van der Horst.
Today my guest is a man who has been warning for 30 years about the situation in which the world is currently in.
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And for 30 years he has been dismissed as the conspiracy theorist of conspiracy theorists and is shamed.
Then it became 2020 and it turned out that he was right in everything.
Welcome to our studio Mr David Icke.
Thank you Eric.
Welcome. Now, the majority of our viewers, our regular viewers, know who you are.
But with this interview, I hope we will be reaching a lot of new viewers in the Netherlands and in Belgium.
So may I ask you briefly, before we get into the actual situation we're in, to introduce yourself.
Who is Mr. David Icke?
Well, I started out in Leicester in the English East Midlands, brought up in a working class background.
And my ambition when I was a kid was to be a footballer, a professional footballer, which I eventually did.
But my career ended at 21 with arthritis, and I went into journalism.
I worked on newspapers, radio, and then television with the BBC. I also became a national spokesman for the British Green Party for a time in the late 1980s.
Which is very interesting to me because this whole environmental situation that's being manipulated mercilessly to justify centralization of power.
I have some experience of what that mentality is like.
And then, you know, I went through a series of what you might call The spiritual paranormal, not religious, but paranormal spiritual experiences.
And it launched me on a road in 1990 of pursuing questions like, well, who does run this world?
What end? And what is this world?
What is this reality?
Who are we? Where are we?
All these big questions.
And over the last 31 years, the synchronicity of my life has been just staggering and bringing to me information that's put the puzzle pieces together.
So I've written a series of books over the last 30 years saying this is the agenda for the world.
This is where this is all going and it's all planned.
And in the COVID era, shall we say, it's come to fruition to a very large extent.
And people have looked at my work in a completely different light, from this guy's mad, what he's claiming, to, well, actually, it looks like he was right.
So it's been a big change for me in the COVID era, as well as a change for the world.
Now, in my brief introduction, that was in Dutch, so you probably didn't understand much of it, I explained that 30 years ago you tried to warn the world for what was coming, and you have been ridiculed and set aside as a conspiracy theorist, maybe even the conspiracy theorist of theorists, And then came 2020, and well, I think I saw you on London Real, where you said, I told you so.
My question is twofold.
Did you recognize COVID immediately in January 2020 as being the Trojan horse, as being the starting gun for what you were warning for all along?
Well, yes, I did.
In the January, the February, and into the March, early March, exactly what form this took was not clear.
What I do when I'm researching is I put things on the back burner, things that are not immediately obvious.
I put them on the back burner.
I let the information increase and increase until I can see where it's going.
But what I knew immediately was that this whole COVID claim of this virus was not something that had happened naturally.
You know, this global cult, as I call it, that I've been exposing all these years, it does take events that happen and exploit them to advance its agenda.
But when you have something happen that is so massively awash with potential to advance this agenda very fast, as this COVID era is, it's never something that's happened accidentally and they ride the back and exploit it.
If it's And a massive opportunity to advance the agenda every time you find actually that opportunity is being created on purpose.
So the question was, for me, Absolutely not.
Has an infectious agent been released naturally?
That's a no-no from the start.
The question was, was it something that was released on purpose to generate this, or is there something else?
And so immediately I knew it was a scam because I could see the potential for transforming human society on the basis of it.
And of course that happened very fast.
But then into the March of 2020, I started gathering information and questioning whether there is a virus at all.
And funnily enough, people at the time were saying, this is mad, this is crazy.
Of course there is. But more and more people are now starting to question that.
Actually, where's the evidence?
There's a guy in America in the alternative media Who was lambasting me at the time when I said it in a London Real interview that there was no virus, that the PCR test is not testing for a virus.
So all the cases that come from the PCR test are fake.
And then they say if you test positive with the PCR test, not testing for the virus, and then die of any other cause within 28 days, even longer in many cases.
Then COVID-19 goes on your death certificate.
So that's how they've come up with the cases, and that's how they've come up with the deaths.
The deaths are a redesignation of other causes of death.
This is why flu has disappeared worldwide, with flu-like symptoms.
And COVID-19 has what?
Oh, flu-like symptoms.
Pre-designation. So the moment I said there is no virus, The PCR test is not testing for it.
YouTube deleted me within literally hours.
Then Facebook followed and Twitter followed.
All of them followed. Spotify followed.
Because I'd crossed the line and I'd uttered the...
The words that would bring the whole house of cards down, which is there is no virus.
And if there is no virus, and it's never proved to be so, there's not a scientific paper on planet Earth that shows this exists.
what they call SARS-CoV-2 is a computer program put together by taking different elements,
codes from gene banks and calling it a virus code. It's extraordinary what's actually gone on.
The potential, once you have no virus, for manipulation is massive, far more than if you
really have an infectious agent. Because if you have no virus, you can make it do what you like.
You can increase the symptoms all the time. You don't have to have real symptoms.
You just increase them. And you haven't got a virus, which you have to then keep to the symptoms of the real infectious agent.
You just make them up.
And because of that, you can make up as many variants of the original virus as you want.
Because the original doesn't exist.
It's a computer program. And these variants are just slightly tweaked computer programs based on the original computer program.
And this is now starting to come out.
The Food and Drug Administration in America has just announced in a document recently that when it came up with the protocol for the PCR test to test for the virus, which it's not doing, They didn't have the real virus to come up with a code.
They didn't. They're admitting it was a computer program they were using.
And then they admitted in the same document that they have given permission.
For 45 different versions of the PCR program, all with different encodings called SARS-CoV-2, to be used to test for cases.
And this is finally, if you look at the official figures of infection to fatality, They are between around 0.23% of, quote, infections.
In other words, tested positive with a test, not tested for the virus.
2.3% to 0.15%, 0.23%, 0.15%, go on to fatality, and the fatality is...
If you test positive and then 28 days later die of anything, then you're going to test different.
So you look at that 0.23%, 0.15%.
And then take away all the fake death certificates and all the fake cases from the PCR test.
And you're left with zero.
There's nothing left. You know, it's like the Nazis said, the bigger the lie, the more they will believe it.
Because people say, oh yeah, politicians lie.
Oh yeah, fishermen lie. But not that much.
They never lie that much. So the bigger the lie, the more people say, well, they can't be lying.
They wouldn't lie that much. Well, they do.
All the time. Now...
The marketing trick, as I've been calling it the last year and a half, is working brilliantly.
I don't know exactly what the percentages are, but it looks as if 99.5% of the world is buying it, and just a few, like yourself and me, are trying to explain to the people exactly what you just said.
I haven't been that successful the last 18 months in doing that.
How about yourself? Well, you know, if the number of people who are claimed to be having this fake vaccination, because it's not a vaccination, doesn't fill the criteria or definition of a vaccination, It's a synthetic nanotechnology being infused into the body, synthetic genetic material being infused into the biological body.
And that's obviously going to cause, for many people, disastrous consequences immediately, and it has.
And for others, because this material is self-replicating and it impacts on the body more and more with every passing day, then the consequences ongoing are going to be absolutely fantastic.
They really are shockingly fantastic.
And so if they were getting the numbers that they want, they wouldn't be offering all these incentives.
Ridiculous.
They wouldn't be offering all these sticks to try to force people into having it.
And I've watched in London, protests going from a handful in the spring of 2020 to now hundreds and hundreds
and hundreds of thousands of people walking through the streets of London.
Nobody knows in the Netherlands that that is happening because mainstream media is keeping their mouths shut.
Exactly. You know, it's all about numbers and the answer is all about numbers.
It's all about mathematics. You know, you've got the best part of 8 billion people being manipulated and the number of people doing it in full knowledge of what they're doing is a fraction, a tiny, tiny, very small number.
In fact, at its core, You'd get the inner core of this global cult in a single room.
So the mathematics are just there staring us in the face.
We've ceased to cooperate in large enough numbers.
There's nothing they can do. And these marches in London have been an indicator of that.
In the spring of 2020, when people, you know, obviously, they bought it.
And to an extent, I can understand at the time.
They haven't done the research either, and I can understand it.
I bought it. They'll say, well, we'll err on the side of caution because they're telling us this is deadly.
But those that were protesting then, the police just moved in and just arrested them and broke it up.
But now the police are having to stand on the side of the road and just watch the marches go past.
Because there's just so many, there's nothing you can do about it.
And so, you know, that's the numbers game that's going to bring this to an end, ultimately.
And there are certainly, in my experience, they're certainly not getting the levels of fake jab acceptance on the level that they're claiming.
And I think a lot of it is whistling in the wind, because I think they've had more pushback, and pushback earlier than they...
They anticipated. And I'm very confident about the future.
I mean, the next two or three years are going to be brutal.
They are going to throw everything at those people that won't have the jab.
Everything. This is coming down.
I'm a bit confused now because I thought we were on a roller coaster that couldn't be stopped.
But you sound quite optimistic.
Am I correct? Oh, very optimistic, yeah.
But what I'm saying is, you know, if you corner a rat, it's going to thrash out at you.
And these people are rats in that sense.
It's symbolic. And they're going to be throwing everything at us.
Because a very simple thing.
Who is going to stop this?
It's not going to be those who are doing it.
It's not going to be those massively mind-controlled people in authority administration who are administering it.
It's not the massive law enforcement who are imposing it.
And it's not going to be this great chunk of the population that just believes whatever authority tells it.
And that leaves one group of people.
That leaves the people who have awakened enough to see it and to see through it.
They're the only people that can bring this to an end, which is why that...
It gives us enormous responsibility.
And so, of course, that which wants it to happen is going to focus all attention and hostility and demonization on the only group it knows can stop what it wants to do.
So we're going to have to be very, very strong in the next two years or so.
And also realize that enormous numbers of people are going to die who've had this jab.
And of course, the authorities are not going to accept that that's what they've died of.
So they're going to be dying of variants.
They're going to be dying of, you know, maybe the flu or something.
They'll bring that back. And they're going to be dying of COVID. See, what you're seeing now is the first signs of this.
You're seeing these figures where they're saying, well, something like 60%, 70%, 80% of people in hospital with COVID are double vaxxed.
Well, So, that would seem that the vaccination doesn't work.
Well, of course it doesn't work, because it's nothing to do with your health.
It's to do with depopulation and transforming those that survive genetically.
So, why are they in hospital?
They're not in hospital with COVID. They're in hospital with the effects of the jab.
Because some of the effects, the respiratory effects of this jab, as the self-replication goes on, mirror what they claim are the symptoms of COVID. And so this is what is being done.
And another big aspect of this is going to be Those that haven't had the fake vaccination, it's their fault.
This is why this catastrophe is happening.
So we're going to have to be very, very strong and very determined not to...
Not to concede an inch because, you know, I hear one or two people, they're saying, oh, you know, well, I can't do this and I can't do that unless I have it.
Well, I tell you, the consequences of having it are going to be far more catastrophic and sinister than the consequences of not having it.
They really are. I mean, we are dealing with deeply, deeply evil people.
I've For 30 years, just how evil this cult is that's behind all this.
And, you know, people say, oh, they would never do that.
Like I said earlier, but, you know, they'll lie, but they wouldn't lie that much.
But these are people who are psychopaths.
They have no empathy.
They have no compassion. They lie to the extent that gets them what they want.
They have no compulsion about lying.
We're dealing with a mental state that has no fail-safe mechanism, which is what empathy is.
If you have empathy, you've got a fail-safe mechanism on your behavior because you can put yourself in the feelings of those you are affecting.
But when you have no empathy, and psychopaths don't, it's the top trait of psychopathy, no empathy.
Then you have no emotional consequence, no matter what horrors you perpetrate.
And that's what we're dealing with.
And we need to face that. And then we can grasp why and that this force would do what it's doing.
You're saying we need to be very strong for the coming two years and there will be a small group of, let's say, survivors.
That's you, me and the rest.
But what is it that we actually do to get this thing turned around?
I mean, just sitting and watching it happen will not solve the problem, will it?
No, it won't. I've been saying for a long time now, people have to move from seeing it to ceasing to cooperate with it.
And the power of no is what's going to bring this down.
I've not, throughout all of this, done any of the things that they tell me to do.
I've not worn a mask in any situation.
I never will. I'll die first.
I've gone out when I choose to go out, not when they tell me I can go out.
And I've not had the temperature taken.
I've not done any of it.
My philosophy has been, I'm not going to give an inch.
Because if you give an inch, then you'll give another inch and another inch and another inch.
It's a line in the sand that says...
We are going not one step in the direction of tyranny.
We're not cooperating with it.
Because if you cooperate with tyranny, there's a very guaranteed outcome waiting for you, which is you're going to live in tyranny.
What has brought down every tyranny in history has been self-respect.
That's what stops people acquiescing, self-respect.
And once your self-respect is handed over, then all that's left is submission.
That's all that's left.
And so this is why, because it's a massive psychological operation.
It's a psyop on the human psyche.
There's all these restrictions and impositions.
They're nothing to do with health, nothing whatsoever.
They're to do with changing the psyche.
The masks are to dehumanize and deface people.
And to make them acquiescent.
And so they actually want you to see that what they're demanding is ridiculous and contradictory and makes no sense.
Like in Victoria, in Australia, they're now saying you have to keep your mask on to drink alcohol.
I mean, because what they're doing is, look, they're saying, and I'm serious here, this is why if you look at the British example, those that are driving government policy on this are behavioural psychologists.
The government has a whole...
Network here called the Behavioral Insights Group.
Their job is to change the psyche so it becomes acquiescent.
So if you...
If you are told to do something or something's demanded, what a self-respect mind does is, okay, I'm hearing what you're saying.
What I'm now going to do is I'm going to check out and I'm going to see if it stands up.
I'm going to see if what you're telling me has a basis in truth, a basis in validity.
And if you find that it does, then you say, okay, I see why you want me to do that, so I'm going to do that.
Okay, I'm fine. That is retaining your self-respect.
But when you are told to do things which you can see blatantly, as increasing numbers of people can, make no sense whatsoever, but you still do it, that's when you've handed over your self-respect.
And that's what this psychology is all about.
They want you to see it's nonsense.
Because if you acquiesce knowing it's nonsense, then you've handed them your self-respect and submission remains and they got you.
They got you. Now we have been talking about they and the cult quite a bit.
Can we put some names on it?
Who are they?
Well, it'd be good to put the structure on it, because it will explain so much about how this COVID era has been globally coordinated.
It's clearly had. I mean, you've got a situation in which almost every country in the world, their governments and authorities and health authorities are responding in exactly the same way.
It's all copy-paste.
Yeah, exactly. So how do they do it?
Well, If you go back to the ancient world in places like Babylon, Sumer, and Egypt, other parts of the world too, but let's just follow this through.
You can pick up this cult, this satanic cult, which has designs on world control.
And through the ages, it has been embarked on a centralization of power Whereby it first of all then moved on to Rome and became the Roman Empire.
Wherever this cult locates, an empire follows.
It then moved up and located massively in London.
And in that period, we had...
The British Empire, on which it said the sun never set.
And we had other European empires, not as big as the British, but other European empires.
And these were cult empires.
And what is the cult?
It's a network of secret societies and semi-secret groups with an interlocking leadership and a central mission control working through the web as a whole.
The central point that I call the spider.
And so when you had the great colonial period where the European powers, particularly the British, colonized the world, the cult colonized the world.
And then you had this period where apparently the...
The colonizers gave independence to the former colonies and rolled back their global empires.
But that's not what actually happened.
Only on the surface that happened.
What they did was left out in all these countries, the secret society networks and certain families that have gone on controlling those countries from the shadows ever since.
And this is how the coordination can work.
And so it then moves on and moves on, and we came to a point where we had a word for what they were doing, globalization.
Globalization, centralization of power in every area of our lives on a global level, that is the cult agenda.
That's what globalization is.
Because the more you centralize power, the fewer people at the center have control over more and more and more people.
It's a very simple process.
And not only that, the more you centralize power, the more power you have at the center to centralize even quicker so the momentum of it gets faster and faster.
And that's what we've seen with globalization.
And eventually we end up with what they call the 1%, this fantastically wealthy, tiny group of people who are...
Who are dictating so much that happens in the world.
So what they've created through this process, through what we call history, of expanding their influence, they've created a global web and it is very much...
Something that can be symbolized as the spider's web.
You've got the spider at the center, which is driving the policy globally from the shadows.
And then you've got the strands in the web immediately around the spider.
They're the most exclusive secret societies.
They really know what's going on.
And then you come out from the spider, still in the hidden, and you then meet the secret societies we do know.
The Freemasons, I'm talking the inner core, not Bill and Joe down the local lodge.
I haven't got a clue. And the inner core of the Jesuit order, you've got the Knights Templar, you've got Opus Dei, you've got the Knights of Malta and others.
And they are at that level of the web, in the hidden, where we know these secret societies exist, but we don't know what they're doing.
Well, you do if you research enough, but most people don't have a clue what they're doing.
And then you reach this point in the web of what I call the cusp organizations.
This is where the hidden meets the scene.
And around this cusp are a vast number of what become known as think tanks and talking shops.
And these organizations are taking the agenda for the world from the spider, from the hidden, And they are manipulating it into the public arena in terms of government policy.
So very relevant to the Netherlands.
You've got the Bilderberg Group from the Bilderberg Hotel there.
1954, you've got the Council on Foreign Relations in America.
You've got the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London.
You've got the Club of Rome, which was created in the 1960s specifically to exploit environmental concerns to justify centralization of global power.
That's where the global warming hoax came from.
And interestingly, the people behind the COVID hoax, your Gateses and your Klaus Schwab at the World Economic Forum, You know, both cold front operatives are also pushing the climate change agenda because they're both designed for the same thing, to justify centralization of global power on a world level.
So, you then come out from these cusp organizations and you're in the world of the scene in this web.
You're into governments, government agencies, banking systems, media corporations, Silicon
Valley, the World Health Organization, all these organizations.
And they appear in the public arena to the public eye to be unconnected and to be operating
randomly and independently of each other.
But if you go to the level of the web, they're all coordinated by the same force.
So for instance, it was the Rockefeller family who absolutely are, you know, bastions of
this global cult, along with Rothschilds and others.
And they created the World Health Organization in 1948, part of the UN.
And the United Nations building in New York was the land on which it's built was given
free by the Rockefeller family, because it was all part of this cult process of centralizing
The United Nations is a stalking horse for fully-fledged world government, which is what they do.
These people are now openly saying the minimum of books for decades that this was the plan.
Now they're openly calling for it.
And so then you look at Silicon Valley and These Silicon Valley corporations, they're not run by Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey and Susan Wojcicki at YouTube and these guys at Google.
They're not run by them.
They're just front men, just as Gates is a front man from Microsoft.
The web runs these organizations, and so they serve the web.
And this explains why, right at the start of the COVID hoax, The Silicon Valley social media organizations announced, and YouTube, that they were going to censor anyone that questioned, challenged, or exposed the narrative being put out by the World Health Organization.
Now, from a not knowing what's going on point of view, that was, what?
What do you mean they're going to censor anyone who's challenging the World Health Organization?
What's going on? Well, The web owns the Silicon Valley corporations.
You look at who seed funded them, the Pentagon, the CIA, people like Google, etc.
And the web also created and controls, not least through Gates, and funding the World Health Organization.
So, one part of the web is censoring to protect the narrative of another part of the web.
And once you realize this web is this conduit, this cement between all these apparently...
Unconnected organizations, it all starts to make sense.
So the World Health Organization is dictating the global cult agenda over COVID. And all its member countries, virtually all of them, then implement in their country what is coming out of the World Health Organization.
And so you look at the CDC in America and the...
The Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control, they are basically UN agencies, sorry, World Health Organization agencies within America imposing the World Health Organization policy.
Same thing's happening in Britain, same thing's happening everywhere.
So it's all centrally coordinated.
I did an interview yesterday for a lovely group of people in Malaysia.
And I was talking about how all this happens and what's going on in Britain and America and what have you.
And they were saying, well, that's happened in Malaysia.
Of course! It's centrally coordinated and the tentacles of this cult go into every single country.
Are there any safe havens in the world or is it just sit tight, it doesn't matter where you are?
It doesn't matter where you are.
This is a global agenda. What they want, this has been in my books again for decades, what they want is, this is what the Great Reset is that they're calling it.
Exactly. They want a world government which wouldn't be elected.
It would be technocrats and bureaucrats and engineers and scientists, those sort of people.
Which, if you look at it, are now running the world already.
When politicians say we're following the science...
What it means is unelected bureaucrats, technocrats, and scientists, or allegedly scientists, are telling us how to run the country, and we're doing what they say.
Elected governments are already dead.
They're in name only.
And the idea is that this process goes on to a global level.
So you have a world government, which is dictating to every community in every part of the world.
A world army which is designed to impose the will of the world government, anyone who doesn't want to play ball.
But who needs an army if the whole world is one country and you can only have an army against the people?
Exactly. Do you know, it's funny you say that.
Because years and years ago, I was talking about this, and a mainstream journalist said to me, what's the use of a world army?
There'd be no one to fight.
Exactly. And you go, you're a mainstream journalist, aren't you?
How about fighting the people?
Unbelievable, really.
And... And so they won a World Central Bank.
The European Central Bank is a stepping stone to that.
Yep. And everybody applauds it.
Wonderful idea. Yeah, exactly.
I mean, the Klaus Schwab, you know, this Bond villain bloke who's so obviously corrupt and satanic, it's unbelievable.
He's pushing all this stuff.
And ultimately, they want, and I say ultimately, I mean, in the near future, They want all human beings connected to a global AI-driven smart grid to the point where AI is connected to the human brain and becomes the human mind.
And this is not all a conspiracy theory.
These people in Silicon Valley are actually saying that's what we want.
This is where we're going. People like Ray Kurzweil at Google.
Because... What they're doing now is they've gone from the hiding it stage, because they can't anymore, to the selling it stage.
And the sales pitch for connecting the human brain to artificial intelligence is that it will make us superhuman.
And we'll be able to do all these amazing things.
But actually, it will make us subhuman.
I was just going to say, and the contents of these jabs...
With their synthetic and nanotechnology is designed to connect us to this grid.
You know, you see these rice-sized chips that are being put into people.
I mean, they're doing a lot.
Thousands and thousands have had it done in Sweden, for instance.
Yeah. But that's almost a diversion.
Because the level at which this connection is supposed to be made is nanotechnology, well beyond the means of the human eye to see.
And that nanotechnology is in these vaccines.
So what you see on the internet is what you saw at the start when this fake vaccination program rolled out, was people being able to put metallic objects on the point of the jack.
Graphene. Yeah.
That and other elements too that create the magnetism.
But what's happened since, if you follow the videos, Is that now people are being able to put these metallic objects anywhere in their body and it sticks.
And what you're looking at from that to that is the self-replication of the contents of these jabs so that more and more of the cellular structure is impacted by it.
And it's this magnetism That is part of this connection to what they call the smart grid.
So people like Elon Musk, who is satanic, or he's just a man of the people.
No, he's not. He's satanic.
And even he's just a front man like Gates.
He's not really running the show.
But SpaceX, officially run by him, they're putting up tens of thousands of...
They've already got permission for it.
They're doing it all the time.
Tens of thousands of low-orbit satellites beaming radiation fields, Wi-Fi fields, 5G now, at the planet as part of this, what Kurzweil and Google calls the cloud.
Everyone's going to be connected to the cloud.
In other words, you're going to be...
An expression of AI. And the fake vaccines are an element of making this connection between the body and the mind and the brain and this cloud.
And so you have vast numbers of people are not going to be able to make the transition through their bodily transformation.
To this new state of being, which is not a biological human, but a synthetic biological human.
And they're going to die.
They're already dying. But some will make the transition.
They will go through.
A very, very small number compared with people in the world today.
And their bodies are going to be transformed genetically into basically a cyborg.
Are those the same people that will own nothing and will be happy in 2030?
Yeah, well, that's the idea.
Yeah. The Great Reset is about taking all the wealth from the population and putting it into the hands of these few so that the population becomes totally dependent on the few.
And if they don't do what they're told, they don't get the basics of life in those that survive.
So I've been saying since way, way back in the 1990s, About, you know, the idea is to create this situation where you have total dependency of the population on the governments and authorities, leading to the end of the ability to make an independent living.
And this is what the...
The lockdowns are about, and that's to do with health, of course not.
They're about using the excuse to shut down business, to destroy it.
You look at the corporations, they've made phenomenal increases in profits and control and market share, while the independent businesses are going under in fantastic numbers.
And with every new lockdown, more go under.
And this is a cultural revolution that's going on, just like the one in China, and there's a reason why it's China.
Whereby, you know, the lockdowns are targeting, you know, culture, the entertainment, theater, they're targeting the pubs, the bars, the meeting places, all these cultural pillars of, in our case, Western society, but it's happening all over the world.
Are being targeted because there's a whole transformation of human society going on.
And the reason that China is so significant in this and why the alleged virus is supposed to have come out of China is because China is one of the great global centers now of this global cult.
This cult was behind the Mao revolution and the cultural revolution that followed in China because what they wanted It was a closed society all through those Mao years in which a system of mass human control, not least using technology, could be incubated.
And brought to fruition within the borders of China.
And the idea then was once you perfected it, was to play it out across the world.
So what you had is this fake virus apparently coming out of China and across the world.
And what has the rest of the world become more like in the COVID era?
China. I mean, you look at the Chinese social credit system.
Where if you behave and live your life as the government wants, you get credits.
And if you don't, you get them taken away.
And if enough are taken away, you lose the right to air travel, you lose the right to train, traveling on a train, etc.
And okay, so that's what's going on in China now.
Now, and with all their millions of cameras in their cities, they are in real time, through AI, following the behavior of the population.
And now you look at the so-called vaccine passports.
They're saying that if you do what the government wants, i.e.
you get the jab, and you have all these subsequent jabs, all these booster jabs and jabs for variants that are all coming, you'll have to have them as well to keep your vaccine passport.
You have to keep doing what the government wants, or they'll take it away.
And if you don't do what the government wants, which is have the jab, Then you don't get a vaccine passport and your life as a functioning human being, as we've known, will be stopped.
So the vaccine passports are the Chinese social credit system.
That's all they are. And so China is very, very significant.
And China's become much more powerful as a result of the COVID era.
Yeah. In the car, when I drove over to our studio, I listened to a podcast of yours, and that was about, I don't know if I'm pronouncing it correctly, about Waitico, the mind blindness.
I found that marvelously interesting, because it's a state of mind that is needed to get out of this, let's say, acquiescing.
Can you tell us something about it?
Well... If you go deep enough into the rabbit hole, and I've been going deeper and deeper and deeper for 30 years, 31 years now, things actually get simpler.
They don't get more complex.
On the outside, it's all complex.
What's happening? Random. And you go down the rabbit hole and it still seems to be complex.
But the lower you go down, the simpler it gets.
And when you get down the bottom of the rabbit hole, or at least a very long way down, You realize that actually the basis of everything is consciousness.
It's your state of consciousness.
It's your state of consciousness that acquiesces to government.
And it's your state of consciousness that doesn't acquiesce to government.
There's different states of consciousness.
And so what we're seeing very clearly now, I mean, it's been there all along, but not as defined as it is now, is we're seeing two states of consciousness emerge.
The state of consciousness that does whatever it's told and believes whatever it's told, and a state of consciousness that won't anymore, that won't do that.
That we'll question.
We'll see through lies.
We'll see through the mendacity and the contradictions and won't acquiesce at the more expanded level of awareness anyway.
Won't acquiesce.
And so you're seeing this parting the road.
And, you know, this, whether someone takes the fake vaccine or not, is absolutely a defining decision that reveals what consciousness camp you're in.
And so I looked at...
The history of all this.
And, you know, like I say, went back to the ancient world.
And you see this expanding across history.
You see people coming in and going out, people coming in and going out, born and dying, serving the cult agenda, never to see its fruition.
In that lifetime anyway, and then going out.
And I looked at it and I thought there has to be a force here that is coordinating this across this whole period.
A coordinating force.
And then I started looking around the ancient world and religions and started to see the amazing common themes between religions and non-religious cultures, ancient cultures and shamanistic streams and different places and, like I say, cultures of the world.
And there is a common theme, and that is that while there is a force for love and peace and all the things we would like the world to see, there is another force that's pushing for a very different world, a world that we would define as evil, which I define as the absence of love.
And so you've got Christianity.
It talks about the devil and Satan and demons.
You've got Gnostics from...
From the Egyptian period and, you know, the so-called Nag Hammadi Library, where in 1945, an earthen jar was found with these writings from Gnostic people that were estimated to have been put in the jar about 400 AD. And they are not Christians as you would perceive mainstream Christianity.
But they have exactly the same theme.
They call their Christian devil, Yelda Baoth.
They call the demons of Christianity the Archons, or rulers.
It's a Greek word meaning rulers.
You look at the jinn of Islamic belief and the manipulation from the unseen of what they call the jinn.
I was in a taxi being driven from New York airport into the city by a Muslim taxi driver and we were chatting and he was asking me what I was doing.
At the time I was really researching the Gnostic Nag Hammadi texts about the archons, etc.
And I was talking about that and describing them.
And he said, That sounds like the gin.
That sounds just like the gin, yeah.
It's a different name for the same force.
And then I came across Another version of this, in the Native American culture, and there's a tribal group called the Cree, and they describe this force as Watico, which they describe as like a mind virus, which possesses the human mind and directs its perceptions.
And so I started investigating that.
My new book, Perceptions of a Renegade Mind, the last chapter is called Escaping Watiko.
I think it's one of the most important chapters I've ever written.
And Watiko is a very low vibrational state of consciousness within a particular band of frequency.
And it's based around the emotion of fear.
And all these low vibrational emotions, depression, hatred, resentment, all these things resonate within this band of frequency, which the Cree called the T-Col.
And the idea of Wutiko is, which is basically, this is the Christian devil, this is the Gnostic, the outer veil.
The idea is to pull the target population, target consciousness, into a low vibrational state by instigating fear and these low vibrational emotional and mental states.
So that they enter the frequency layer of Wotico, and Wotico then starts to attach, assimilate, and to direct.
And what you have with the most extreme levels of Wotico is what we call psychopaths.
So you look at your Gates's and your Schwab's and your Anthony Fauci's and all these other people and all this equivalent in the different countries, and you're looking at expressions, quote, physical expressions of Wotiko.
That's the consciousness that's driving them.
Another aspect of Wotiko and psychopathy is, like I said earlier, that you lie and lie to the extent that gets you what you want.
Well, so you look at the global media in the COVID era.
I mean, it's always been corrupt, but my God, never on the level that it is now.
The coordinated lying globally is extraordinary.
And that's Wotiko.
That's how Wotiko works.
So Wotiko is driving the global media, a level of consciousness.
And then you look at this great vast number of people that just don't question anything and buy whatever they're told.
And that's an expression of Wotiko as well.
Because if you fall into these low vibrational, mental, emotional states based around fear, then Wotiko can attach to you.
And what it does...
It's attached to your subconscious mind, and it feeds perceptions into the conscious mind, the five-sense mind, which at that point, people think that They're having their own conclusions and coming to their own opinions, but actually it's just being fed to them.
And if you look at so many people in that mode who say, I'll tell you what I think is going on, this is my opinion, and what comes out of their mouth is the government narrative almost word for word.
It's not their opinion at all.
And so if you fall into these low vibrational states, not only do you attach to Wotiko and it can influence you, either at an extreme level where you become a psychopath or a less extreme level where it's turning you into an unquestioningly passive submitter to authority, then that's the cause of the problem.
This Wotiko consciousness, that's what's driving the whole thing.
But if you can open your heart and open your mind, and in doing so, your frequency increases and quickens, you are not influenced by Wutiko.
And that is what we call awakening.
The stadium in which the Wotiko agenda is played out is basically the realm of the five senses.
You cannot see it, touch it, taste it, or whatever.
And if you only operate in that bubble of the five senses, then you are detached from the other incredible levels of consciousness to which we're all a part.
And you are detached from that That insight, that inspiration, that intuitive knowing, because the five senses are dominating your perception.
Now, the five senses decode reality as everything apart from everything else.
And so what does the five senses see?
It sees dots.
It doesn't see pictures.
It doesn't see patterns. It sees dots.
Everything's random and everything's apart from everything else.
And if you look at the world like that, you're never going to get it because everything's connected.
But when you open your mind and transform your self-identity from...
Self-identifying the I with the labels of a human life, which are just experiences.
They're not an I. They're experiences.
The I is the consciousness having those experiences.
And when you start to self-identify with being that consciousness and not the limitation labels of a human life...
Then you move beyond the Wotiko realm, the Wotiko frequency, and you do start to see the world in a completely different way.
It's what we call awakening. And it's this level of awareness That is represented by those who are seeing through the lies of the COVID era and seeing beyond it, and those who are in the Wotiko realm who are not seeing it.
So when people put their hands on their heads and say, it's so obvious, why can't people see it?
Well, they can't see it because they're in a completely different level of consciousness that doesn't process information into a conclusion.
It doesn't. What awakening people do is they take information from different sources and they then process that information into a conclusion.
What wotico consciousness does, wotico consciousness does, is it takes information, say from official statements and authorities, and it doesn't process the information.
The information itself becomes their opinion, becomes their perception.
You have to wear masks or you can pass on the virus.
Absolute scientific nonsense.
Nonsense, beyond nonsense.
But the awakening will take that information and say, okay, well, I'm going to look at this information, I'm going to look at this person's opinion, and I'm going to process it into a conclusion.
Actually, masks are useless.
But a wittig old mind won't do that.
It will accept the information as its opinion.
Masks protect you.
I believe masks protect me.
And this is this division that's going on between those that can see and those who can't.
And the remarkable thing is, that's my experience, and I'm sure it's yours as well, once you have reached that awakening, let's call it, there is no way you can ever go back.
It's impossible. No, I'll tell you why.
See, I said earlier that this Wotiko consciousness operates or manipulates through the subconscious, the subconscious realm around the five senses.
Why? Because it wants people to believe that the opinions that they have are theirs.
That they are making a decision to believe what they believe.
We're actually being fed into them.
So they're operating in the subconscious realm, which is known as the subliminal realm, below the threshold of the conscious mind.
And as long as they remain in the subconscious, the subliminal, they can go on manipulating forever and people will have no idea they're being manipulated.
But once you take Watiko, this is why I keep on about it, and the methodology and the nature of what's happening in the unseen, and you make the conscious mind aware of it, It loses power over you.
Because you have consciously become aware of something that manipulates subconsciously.
And I'll give you a great example of what I mean.
I've used a subliminal image in two or three of my books, which is about four flowers in a picture.
And there's a subliminal image in it.
And you say to people, can you see a subliminal image in this picture?
And 95-plus percent will say, no, I can't see anything.
Because it's in the subconscious.
Of course, it's subliminal.
It's talking to the subconscious.
It's what subliminal advertising is all about.
And then you point out that the white bits between the flowers very clearly portray the word sex.
Very clearly. And people say, oh my goodness, I didn't see that.
This is the point.
Whenever, and I mean whenever, the people see that image again, the subliminal sex is the first thing they see.
Because it's coming to the conscious mind, and therefore it loses influence on Over you because you have acknowledged its existence.
Therefore, it can't operate in your shadows anymore because you're aware of it.
And this is why it's so important.
I mean, if you look at just my work over the last 30 years, what I've been doing is taking the information from the shadows, the subconscious, I'm putting it in front of the conscious mind.
And when the conscious mind sees it, this manipulation loses power because its power is people not to be aware of it.
And so many people saw through the COVID thing quite early on, certainly by the summer of 2020, because They've been made aware of the way this works.
And those that have not gone down this road at all and not investigated or read about any of this stuff, Wetiko and the manipulation stayed in their subconscious, and they're the ones that can't see it.
Yeah. It makes perfectly good sense, because when I look at our Prime Minister, who has a Friday evening date with the rest of the Netherlands, whenever he's giving his press conferences, I can only see an actor.
But 95% of the people don't.
They don't see it. No.
Exactly the same is happening in every country.
Yeah. I mean, the people running the show in this country are such blatant villains, blatantly corrupt and blatantly evil to anyone with any kind of awakening at all.
It's obvious that they're lying through their teeth, but people just believe them by reflex action.
This is the difference between expanded awareness and Ritiko awareness.
Yeah. Now, I know you're a busy man.
I promised you we would keep it within an hour, and we're exactly at the one-hour mark.
We have another interview to go.
Is there any... Coming up, yeah.
Because this is a pivotal time, and the more you can get this information out, the better.
I know. The more you can preempt...
What the plan is, the less potent is the effect of the plan.
Exactly. If it just happens, then it's like, well, it just happened.
But if you've been told this is what the plan is and this is why, when it happens, people go, well, hold on a minute.
Hold on a minute. Here it is.
I heard this was coming.
And this is its power.
So I do everything I can every day to get this stuff out.
And thank you very much for that.
I wrote a little note that in 2024, that is when the pivot is going to happen, I just heard.
I'm going to contact you again to see how we stand then.
In 2024, that's, you know, I mean, it's not going to be over in 2024.
But the signs are going to be very clear that...
We've got to the top of the mountain, and from then on, it's just going to dismantle.
I want to thank you for all your hard work, and I want to thank you for the last hour.
I hope to speak to you soon again, and please send my love to Gemma as well, because she's a darling.
Yes, I will, yes. Gareth's wife, yes.
She's about to give birth.
Oh, really? Yeah, the baby's due as we speak.
And still managing all your work.
Yeah, yeah. Amazing. Yeah.
Thank you very much once again, Mr.
David Aik. Thank you, mate. Bye.
Bye. Bye. Bye.
The coronavirus pandemic started in China. Oxygen, medical supplies and food supplies have been cut.
Why are my vaccines a vision?
Stage 1 you create a problem.
It could be a manufactured virus.
You want a reaction and you want them to either say do something or you want them to accept what the authorities suggest must be done.
So one of the agendas is to massively cull the population.
They want to reduce the numbers.
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