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Aug. 11, 2021 - David Icke

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David Icke Talks To The Freedom People Podcast

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	hello all you lovely freedom people out there and welcome to today's fireside freedom chat
	On the Freedom People Podcast, where we get into the nitty gritties of all the freedoms as we collectively take this journey to ultimate freedom together.
	I'm your host, Bradley Freedom.
	Today's guest is none other than the one and only David Icke.
	That's right, ladies and gentlemen, David Icke, the original gangster, the original truther, I came on the Freedom People podcast to chat with Brad.
	Wow. What an amazing, amazing time, amazing day, an amazing opportunity for me.
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	If you don't know who David Icke is, we'll give this a listen and I hope it gives you a little bit of insight to who he actually is.
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	Hey, hey, Mr. I...
	Ike, can you hear me okay?
	Hello, how are you?
	I'm doing wonderful.
	Give me one second here.
	Let me get this so maybe you can see me.
	Can you see me? Hold on a sec.
	I've got to work that on.
	Get rid of this. Things all over the screen.
	Okay, now I'm here.
	How are you? Hey, man, I'm doing amazing.
	How are you doing, David? Yeah, good, man.
	In the circumstances, very good.
	Indeed, right?
	Yeah. What are the circumstances?
	Insanity, I think, sums it up.
	Man, without a doubt, it's...
	Wow, I'm beyond elated and honored.
	I've been following you most of my adult life.
	When I was in the late 90s, I was in the military.
	Woke up to the fact that the news was lying to us.
	And then, of course, once your consciousness can open up a little bit more...
	It leaves room for other things to come in.
	You were one of those things that came in in my life in my early 20s and made me feel not so crazy.
	Thank you. Seriously, thank you from the bottom of my heart.
	It's crazy. That's lovely to hear because that's the reason you do it.
	It's letting people see that Because they're at odds with mainstream society, it doesn't mean they're crazy.
	It means mainstream society is crazy, not them.
	Amen. And I mean, well, you're kind of proving that.
	You know, when you first agreed to come on the show, I had days with billions of different things to ask you.
	And it's kind of like, really, the biggest thing that I wanted to ask you is, how have you...
	I'm most impressed by you with your resolve.
	Your ability to stand there and take shit.
	And I mean, you took a lot of fucking shit for a long time, David.
	I mean, like, on the global stage.
	You know what I mean? For all of us.
	And it was like you were being sacrificed for that.
	And so, I guess, like, how have you kept that resolve?
	What's kept you in this?
	Well, it's a number of things, really.
	First of all, I am a stubborn bastard.
	I think on my gravestone, it might say he was a stubborn bastard with good connections.
	And that's pretty much it.
	Because what happened to me in 1990 is the top of my head blew off.
	And through 1990 and through 1991, when it really blew off.
	Early 91.
	I did get connected to something.
	Because, you know, especially in...
	In this period we're going into, because it's going to be brutal and there's going to be a lot of loss of life.
	And it's not going to be from COVID-19.
	It's going to be from the jab.
	And it's going to be really important for people.
	The pushbackers are going to get demonized like crazy in the next few months and onwards in the next couple of years.
	But also, you know...
	People who are going to have to face the consequences of having the jab.
	It's important to realize that this is just one tiny band of frequency within an infinity of possibility and potential and an infinity of realities to explore.
	So if you get caught in the I have one life and three score years and ten in biblical terms or whatever it is, and then the lights go out.
	You can get into a situation where, you know, this one-life mentality, it focuses and concentrates everything.
	So what people say about you becomes very important to you because you're concentrating and concertina-ing your sense of life within this narrow period.
	You can also be terrified of death.
	If you think death is the end, you can think that even if you think that, you know, you're going to be judged by some judgmental God, you know, death can be terrifying.
	Am I going to stoke the fires of hell and all that stuff?
	I mean, what I did in 1963 on a Tuesday.
	It was a wet day that Tuesday when I did that.
	And all these things.
	And it gives you a perspective that's very limited and very short term.
	But when you realize, the evidence is overwhelming, I've had enormous evidence in the last month, I mean just unimpeachable evidence, that actually life goes on.
	This body is a vehicle for the true I, consciousness, to experience this tiny band of frequency we call the human world.
	And it's so narrow, it's ridiculous.
	The band of frequency that we can actually see What is called visible light is utterly, utterly, ridiculously narrow.
	So the vast majority of infinity is denied to us because the body five sense systems only decode within that band of frequency, which means that We're basically blind to infinity while we're in a human body.
	But the reason that near-death experiences, when they leave the body, describe...
	I've read so many accounts over the years.
	They describe a totally different reality when they leave the body.
	Why? Because their consciousness, which has been experiencing this world, It had its attention focused in this tiny band of frequency because that's what the body does.
	It decodes that band of frequency.
	So when you leave the body, that decoding of that tiny band of frequency stops because, if you like, the biologic computer has finished its cycle, the body, and you are released as consciousness, right?
	Get away from this idea of bodily form, consciousness.
	You are released from that Focused decoding system.
	And now you can suddenly be aware of the vastness of reality outside of this narrow band of frequency.
	It's like basically entering this computer.
	And this computer will only decode a certain area of whatever you've got on the screen.
	But outside the computer, where do you want to go?
	So it is like being focused in a computer during the human life.
	And that's what human life is.
	See, the way the body decodes reality is what we call human.
	And the biological computer of an elephant will decode the reality of In the program of the body of an elephant.
	So the elephant acts like an elephant.
	And a duck acts like a duck.
	And a mouse acts like a mouse.
	And humans act like humans.
	But outside of this decoding system of the body, we are consciousness.
	And therefore, when what we call death...
	It's simply a transition of consciousness from that focused attention we call human back into infinite possibility.
	And it's so important to hold that when all hell breaks loose in terms of the number of people who are going to die and all the abuse that happens.
	The pushbackers, the non-fakebacks, are going to get.
	But we just realized that this is a brief experience within a tiny band of frequency.
	As I've said many times, the body has a cycle.
	We have eternity.
	That's the difference.
	And what this global cult that I've been...
	Exposing for 31 years now, wants to do.
	Its very foundation is to focus human attention so much in the five senses of the body decoding system That we are not influenced by the greater consciousness beyond it.
	So we, for instance, are encouraged, told, that we should identify the I, who we are, with the labels of a human life.
	I am a man, I'm a woman, I am this religion, that religion, that race, this race, this sexuality, that sexuality.
	When they are not who we are, they are the experiences the real eye consciousness is having.
	But if you can focus people's attention in the five senses, anything beyond that, oh, it's the paranormal, bloody mad he is, anything beyond that is kind of discouraged.
	And so what do the five senses do?
	They decode a certain band of frequency.
	That's all they do.
	And they connect us into this band of frequency in terms of a sense of reality.
	So I'm now looking into this room, and basically the band of frequency that the five senses decode, visual senses, for instance, is what we call form.
	It's actually holographic.
	It's not solid physical.
	It's holographic. The solidity is illusory.
	But... The form is the frequency band that it basically decodes.
	So I'm seeing a filing cabinet, a window, a computer, a table, and I'm seeing empty space between them.
	That's what the five sentences do.
	They do not decode further into the field of frequency that includes what they perceive to be empty space.
	But if you could go further into that frequency, you'd realize there isn't any empty space.
	But actually everything, all of us, are connected by a field of consciousness, a field of energy.
	And at that level, we're all part of the same consciousness.
	We're different expressions of the same consciousness.
	We are different points of attention within the same consciousness.
	But because the five senses only decode form, Everything appears to humans as apart from everything else.
	Nothing seems connected.
	It's me and it's you.
	And on one level, that's true.
	We're different points of attention.
	We have different experience sequences.
	Therefore, we come from slightly different ways of looking at the world or very different ways of looking at the world.
	But at this energetic level, we're all one.
	Now, If you can, and I'm coming around to finishing the answer to the question, it's a long way of getting around there, but there's a lot of background to tell.
	When you identify, and this is what happened to me in 1990, I went through this massive kind of awakening.
	When you identify, not with the labels of the human life, they're your experience, but with being the consciousness that is having the experience, What is happening is your self identity, the way you see yourself, is massively expanding.
	I'm not those limited labels.
	I am the consciousness having those labels.
	So what happens when you do that is your awareness, your consciousness expands at the same rate as your self-identity.
	So someone who is completely stuck in the five senses and perceives themselves as little me with no power Powerless little me.
	Well, they'll live a powerless little me life because they will create that reality.
	Your perceptions become your experience.
	It's like a feedback loop.
	But when you see yourself as, because you're going to be operating on a very narrow band of frequency because your sense of self is narrow, therefore the frequency range that you're operating on will reflect that narrowness of self-perception.
	Yeah. When you expand your awareness to I am consciousness, I am all consciousness, I am potentially all that is, has been and ever can be if I open my consciousness enough, then suddenly you're connecting to other levels of reality beyond this very limited world we call human.
	And then you can access and connect with Levels of consciousness that is vastly beyond this world, vastly more expanded, and can see what's going on and sees that everything's connected, but also sees actually what's happening in this human world rather than seeing it as a series of random events that you can't kind of make any sense of.
	And I kind of got...
	Really connected into that in 1990, 1991, 91 particularly, early 91, when I had a series of experiences that blew my head off.
	Everything changed for me.
	I was still, you know, David, and I went through a period of about three months when I didn't know where I was because the thing that hit me was so massive and very difficult to assimilate.
	But after that, I was still me, me that people knew.
	But I saw the world in a completely different way.
	And so from that perspective...
	The ridicule and the abuse, which was incessant, and in this country, absolutely historic in nature.
	You knew the direction you were going was right.
	And I came to this conclusion and made it all, look, I can see that life's eternal.
	And the worst thing I can do by going with this...
	Is to bugger up one very brief experience called human.
	So I think I can handle that.
	So I'm going with it. And I just followed it.
	And basically what it involved...
	Was going with your intuition.
	This intuition here is what connects you out there.
	And what this global cult is after, in terms of control, is getting you in the head and getting you in the belly, emotion and thought.
	And when you open this, you find you can...
	You can access this intuition.
	And you look at the body language.
	I'm thinking, I'm thinking, I know, I just know.
	And you see the body language.
	It's going to the point of where knowing comes from.
	And when you have intuition, it doesn't come in a sequence of thought that leads to a conclusion.
	That's what that does. When you have intuition, knowing, you get the picture in one go.
	You can see the picture in one go.
	There's not a series of conclusions, a series of thoughts that lead to a conclusion.
	You just get it, you know.
	And so, for instance, I got here just after the turn of the millennium that we live in a simulation and the walls of the simulation are the speed of light.
	And about May time this summer, Scientific American, I think it was called, came out with an article by a guy with lots of letters after his name, because he must be very clever.
	And he said that the evidence would seem to suggest that we do live in a simulation and the limits of it are the speed of light.
	And that came to me in one go, just after the turn of the millennium.
	So, you know, this is what you can do when It's not someone like Buddha or anybody sitting cross-legged on a mountain.
	Anyone can do this.
	It's our natural state to be connected out there and to see the vastness of who we are as opposed to the myopia that we're told we are.
	But just imagine, if people were in this more expanded state of consciousness through an expanded sense of self-identity, how the hell would the COVID hoax have been pulled off?
	It's the myopia, the five-cent prison cell that sees everything as apart from everything else, that sees only a physical life.
	That's how it's possible to pull off this completely mass hoax, because if you...
	If you are stuck in the five senses, then basically five sense information is all that you're going to receive and that's controlled by the cult through the mainstream media, Silicon Valley and all this stuff.
	So the idea is to isolate you in the five senses and disconnect you from other levels of your consciousness and then program the isolated five senses with a sense of reality they want you to believe.
	And if you do that, Then you got them.
	So when people talk about an awakening, an awakening's going on, and my God, it is.
	It's the awakening from this five-sense prison.
	And suddenly people can see things they hadn't seen before.
	Suddenly dots become patterns and pictures.
	So what we're looking at now, just to finish this point, I do go on.
	Keep going, man. No, keep going.
	What are you kidding me, man? To finish this point, what we're seeing now in this clear division in society are those that are stuck in the five senses and therefore operating on a tiny scale.
	And those who are awakening more and more to a greater awareness.
	And because of that, they can see what they can't see.
	And when people over here who can start to see it say, oh my God, why can't they see it?
	Well, they can't see it because they're stuck in the five senses.
	And it's like the Chinese internet system, which is firewalled off so that Chinese people cannot access vast amounts of the internet.
	It's the same principle.
	The five senses, the firewalled five senses are very limited in what they can perceive.
	And so that's why the evidence is overwhelming, but so many can't see it.
	Yeah. And, you know, this is a question that I've been kind of kicking around, hypothesis, whatever you want to say for a while, is the more and more I get connected, or however you want to say, I find memory to be more of non-local.
	What I mean by that is it's more like Wi-Fi than it is a hard drive.
	Exactly. Like, it's here.
	Like, you know what I mean? And that's why, like, your brain doesn't just fill up with memories and then stop.
	It's right. You know what I mean?
	So, okay, cool. Well, you said that.
	Thank you. That's just something I've been kicking around for a while.
	Like, that's just the feeling that you get.
	Like you said, there is no emptiness.
	This is information.
	Information everywhere.
	Yeah, that field I talked about that connects everything, you can very easily symbolize that as Wi-Fi.
	I mean, let's take that analogy of the feedback loop between perception and experience.
	If I go on this computer and I go...
	into the Wi-Fi field and I pick up, not that I do have a Wi-Fi field here, but if I did, you would go into the Wi-Fi field and you would select from that field things that Related to your perception.
	Because you're going to go to this website and not that website.
	And that website and not that website.
	Because of your perception.
	That decides where you go in the Wi-Fi field.
	And the Wi-Fi field carries the entirety of the internet.
	But you're only picking to go to bits of it based on your perception.
	And this is exactly the principle of what I'm talking about.
	If you have a narrow, myopic view of reality, Then, because every thought, this is well known, every thought, every emotion, every feeling, it generates frequency.
	You know, depression and anxiety and fear.
	Sure. Loosh.
	Loosh. Have you ever heard that term, loosh?
	I wanted to ask you this.
	It's called loosh, but I guess that's the off-gas of fear.
	That's what... It feeds the dark...
	Again, you know, the opposite side.
	I don't pay too much attention to that.
	I'm too busy building the new stuff.
	But, like, I do know that there's obviously...
	Like, you talk about this cult, right?
	That is doing something.
	But from what I understand, they feed off of...
	The off-gas of fear is loose.
	Yeah. Well, I can...
	If you want to, I can go into that.
	What's behind this cult?
	Yeah, man. Absolutely. Let's go.
	But so... So...
	My perceptions...
	Of going out as a frequency.
	It's a frequency field that I'm generating based on my perception.
	So if you're in these low vibrational states like anxiety and what have you and fear, you might say something like, oh, I feel so heavy today.
	And the heaviness is the density.
	Your field, your energetic field is going into density because it's vibrating slowly because of these low vibrational states of being, not least emotional.
	You hear the language when people say, oh, you know, they're full of joy and happiness and up for it.
	And they say, oh, I feel so light today because it's a faster frequency and their energy field, therefore, is vibrating to a higher frequency.
	And you have this lightness, this joy about you.
	So in the same way as your perceptions lead you to pick out of the Wi-Fi field what you put on your screen, So our perceptions interact with this field of possibility and probability, this field of consciousness that connects everything.
	We interact with it in the frequency band that relates to our perception.
	So Little Me, I Have No Power is a very narrow, low frequency band because of its perceptual state, and it will interact with the field of possibility and probability, just like the Wi-Fi field, and it will manifest...
	A reflection of its perception.
	So people say, nothing ever happens to me.
	Life's ever so boring.
	I mean, every day is the same.
	Nothing ever works for me.
	You know why nothing ever works for you?
	Because your perception is nothing ever works for you.
	It's a feedback loop.
	Your perceptions create reality.
	But when you go through this awakening, this is why people start to see things when this happens.
	When you go through this awakening, what's the awakening?
	It's expanding your awareness beyond the five senses and beyond the subconscious immediately around the five senses.
	And suddenly, you're now interacting with the Wi-Fi field, if you like, in a very much more expanded way.
	And therefore, what you can manifest as an experience vastly, vastly different.
	It expands with it.
	So one of the things that certainly happened to me, I'm sure it happened to you because it happens to everybody that does this really, is that when you start to awaken and you start to break out of the perceptual prison that you were in before, you start to see synchronicity in your life.
	You start to see coincidences.
	You know, your life becomes, oh my God, what's the chances of that?
	Oh, fancy seeing you here.
	This is a conversation right now, by the way.
	It is for me. Synchronicity.
	How the hell am I sitting in front of David Icke right now?
	Anyway, please keep going. So what you're doing, it's not magic.
	It's simply that your expansion of your consciousness is now interacting with greater swathes of the field of possibility and probability.
	And therefore, you're able to manifest these amazing Things that you weren't able to do before when you were there.
	And you can see why this cult, this global cult of secret societies, semi-secret groups and satanic groups with an interlocking central leadership, wants to keep people in the five senses.
	Because once we break out of that, we can still, of course, the five senses connect us with this reality.
	You don't get rid of them.
	You stop them being a bloody master.
	Right. And you filter their perceptions from a greater level of consciousness.
	And suddenly the perceptions of the five senses start to change as well because they've now got another source of information and not just the buddy media and the education system which are programming them throughout their life.
	So we...
	We are looking at this awakening now, and the awakening is simply that.
	Just expanding your awareness.
	And you do that, I would say, my experience anyway, by expanding your self-identity.
	Stop self-identifying with the labels of a human life.
	They're experiences. That's all they are.
	And so racism. Racism is a nonsense.
	And racism doesn't have to come from someone in a white body, by the way.
	It's just racism.
	It comes from any source, any body.
	Any race at all.
	That's the thing that's missed, of course, on purpose.
	So when you look at what's been happening, look at this woke mentality which has been funded into existence by the cult.
	It's a cult operation.
	I mean, the woke mentality is demanding everything the cult wants in its agenda.
	This is why the woke mentality...
	The biggest, public anyway, the biggest public supporters of the COVID hoax and the COVID fascism.
	They're the biggest supporters of the human climate change hoax.
	These are all aspects of this global cult agenda and the woke mentality, what used to be called the left, but it's not the left, they hijacked it, is the biggest supporter of it.
	Without, you know, any surprise at all.
	But where I'm going with this is look at what the woke mentality has done.
	It subdivided the previous human labels, man, woman, whatever, into smaller and smaller subdivisions.
	So now you have this long list of letters in which people feel the need to self-identify officially with a letter.
	Sometimes two. Which self-identifies their particular detailed, detailed expression of sexuality.
	You know, I'm a so-and-so.
	I don't care. Who gives a shit what you do in your bedroom?
	Enjoy, but it's nothing to do with me.
	And I don't need to know that that's what you are.
	You need to know that's what you are.
	Why do you need to know that?
	Because, you know, you go into the labels.
	And then you go into the subdivisions of the labels and your sense of identity gets smaller and smaller and smaller and further away from the true I, which is ultimately a state of infinite awareness if we expand enough.
	And so you can see the foundation of Of the whole cult agenda is to hold people in this five-sense myopia, and the endgame of this, just to finish the point, is connecting AI to the human brain and the human body.
	So AI becomes the human mind, and by definition, is a five-sense suppressor.
	Of expanding consciousness.
	That's the idea.
	Because once you expand your awareness, as we can see with the pushbackers around the world, gaining all the time, once you break out the five senses, it's like, blah!
	Why did I see it before?
	How could I? Yeah.
	So then the biggest nightmare of this global cult is that humans awaken from the five senses because then they'll see it all.
	Well, and yeah, yeah.
	So what do you think?
	So I'm the oldest of five.
	None of my siblings are like me.
	I don't know about you, but you're pretty unique in yourself.
	What do you feel?
	I mean, again, what is the energy inside of us that's directing us in these certain ways, right?
	Source energy, God, whatever you want to say.
	But there's something, obviously, that's directing me To give you the bird, or not you, but you know what I mean?
	Give the society the bird and say, I don't care what you think of me, like you.
	And we're going to say the truth, what we feel, what we know.
	You know what I mean? My heart is saying this.
	But there's something that...
	brought you there and brought me here where there's you know and I've been lately I've just been saying thank you and giving gratitude for all the sheeples that are wearing the mask and that are taking the jab because in this cosmic play this go-round I don't have to be the guy doing that right so so thank you for doing that y'all but do you get what I'm saying like what is it and why Well, that's interesting. You know, I've been on this journey.
	I could call it a journey.
	And from 1990 to present day, there's been a hidden force that has been...
	Handing me puzzle pieces to put together, to put this jigsaw puzzle together.
	If I'd have sat in this room using my five-sense conscious mind, you know, my human brain, to try to work it all out, then instead of a, you know, 20, 25 books up there, I'd probably be on book number two, and that wouldn't be very accurate.
	But I've had this force that's been...
	And it's synchronicity.
	From the moment this started for me in 1990, I was walking into people.
	I was walking into documents.
	I was walking into books.
	I was walking into personal experiences.
	And there was an absolute coordination to the information that those various things were putting in front of me.
	And I was able to put all this together.
	Because if you...
	If you break it down, as I've gone through this sequence of uncovering this over 30 years, you go through different sequences, and basically what you're doing is you're going deeper in the rabbit hole.
	You're going deeper and deeper and deeper in the rabbit hole.
	So you start off and you realize that actually the people running the world are not actually the ones running the world.
	So then you say, well, how do they do it?
	And you go deeper. This is how they do it.
	And then you see that there's a non-human element behind it and what we call extraterrestrial element behind it.
	But then, you know, where I've got to now, because I'm always looking for where something's coming from.
	And what's generating it?
	What's the foundation of it?
	Yes, we see all these different levels of it.
	Okay. But what's the foundation of it?
	And so I started going back in history to try to find a point where this cult began.
	And, you know, it goes back further than this, but you can comfortably go back to Babylon and Sumer and Egypt and these ancient societies.
	And then you follow it through.
	It went through Rome.
	This cult was behind the Roman Empire.
	That's why it's still behind the Vatican.
	And then it moved to Britain as a foundation, headquarters, if you like.
	And then you have the British Empire.
	Whenever this cult's located, this empire is followed.
	And eventually, through the...
	The colonization of the world out of Europe, not least out of Britain, the British Empire in which they said the sun never set, this cult went global.
	And when colonisation appeared to end and these European countries rolled back their official control of countries all over the world, what the cult did was left out in those countries, the secret society networks and the key players and family lines that have controlled those countries ever since, but covertly rather than overtly.
	Now they're moving to overtly again with the COVID. But...
	So the question I asked was, when did this start then?
	And who's coordinating it?
	Or what's coordinating it?
	Because there had to be, you know, you can go back to Sumi, go back to Babylon, Egypt, whatever, Rome, whatever, and you see people coming in, serving the cult agenda, going out.
	Coming in, serving the cult agenda, going out.
	So people have been coming, serving it, going out, being born, dying, in other words, in terms of their body.
	And so there has to be a coordinating force, right, that spans this.
	There has to be. So I started looking for it and what I found was that all the different religions and the different cultures which are not traditional religions they all have a common theme and it is that there is a negative force call it negative force that is manipulating human society in a very malevolent way And on the other side, that there is a force of good and...
	Benevolence, which is pushing the other way.
	So if you look at Christianity, you've got the Christian God, but you've also got the devil and Satan and what they call the demons.
	Then you go to the Gnostics, who were not official, you know, mainstream Christians, and they had the same concept, exactly the same concept, going back to Egypt.
	Their Satan, they personified this as someone called Yaldabaoth.
	And the Archons.
	The Archons is a Greek word meaning rulers.
	And the Archons are the Christian demons.
	And then you go to the djinn where they talk in Islam about people or beings in the unseen manipulating human society.
	And then you go to the Zulus and all these different other...
	And you find this same recurring theme, no matter where you go, of a force of good and a force of positivity, a force of love, and a force pushing against that.
	And evil is an inversion of that.
	And evil, compared within the totality of infinity, evil is a...
	It's almost infinitesimal compared with love, which holds the whole thing together.
	And we find ourselves in this band of frequency in which this evil, goes on in different names around the world, is actually seriously manipulating.
	But it's only in a very small area.
	Very small band of frequency.
	And then I came across, I've just got a book just come out.
	It's going to be out in America any day now.
	Getting container shipping space now is a nightmare in this current situation.
	Anyway... What's the name of your book, please?
	It's called Perceptions of a Renegade Mind.
	And it's how a renegade mind sees the world.
	And we can get into that as we go along.
	The last chapter is called Escaping Wetiko, which I think is one of the most important chapters I've ever written in a book.
	Wetiko, what's that? Well...
	The Cree tribal people in America, they have exactly the same concept of this negative force that has a malevolent agenda for humanity.
	And they call it Watico.
	And when I read books about Watico, Fascinating stuff.
	You realise, hey, this is the same as that and same as that and same as that.
	So it's absolutely a common theme.
	So I started looking at this wotiko and what was said about it and its equivalent under other names.
	And I started to look at the world of COVID. And you can see it.
	This wotiko is a state of consciousness that It's not massively wide in its frequency band, but it's very concentrated.
	It's very, very inverted, distorted.
	And if you look at the word evil, which is the word live written backwards, which is very appropriate because evil is the absence of love.
	It's the absence of life, really.
	And so...
	This consciousness is operating in a certain frequency band.
	Very low vibrational.
	Here we go. Here we go.
	All the dots connect if you speak for long enough.
	A very low frequency band, which is based on fear and all these other things.
	This Wotiko brought fear into the world.
	Because it is fear.
	For various reasons I explain in the new book, Wetiko is fear.
	It's fear. And this is why it uses fear as its greatest weapon of human control.
	Because what it's trying to do, it's trying to so manipulate human society that people fall into these low vibrational states of frequency.
	Through fear, through anxiety, through depression, all these things.
	And what's happening is as they fall into those low vibrational states, they fall into Wotiko.
	And once that happens, what Wotiko does, and the Kareem talk about this, is it seeks to attach to your subconscious mind.
	And it then feeds thoughts, perceptions, thoughts, Or blocks on thoughts and perceptions through the subconscious.
	So when it enters the conscious mind, people think they're having their own thoughts and coming to their own opinions.
	You will have noticed, I have to stand there and kind of bite my tongue, stop myself laughing.
	When I hear people say, I'll tell you what I think's going on, it's about this whole COVID thing.
	And then what comes out of their mouth is basically the official narrative word for word.
	And you think, no, no, no, that's not what you think is going on.
	That's what they think is going on.
	Yeah, which you think is your opinion, but it's not.
	It's the opinion you've been given, but you think it's your own.
	And this is how it works.
	So let's look at this, Wotiko, from a point of view of COVID. Or the fake COVID. Sure, yeah.
	You have the psychopaths That are running it.
	You have your Gateses and your Fauci's and, I mean, Fauci's a mass murderer.
	Dude, that's psychopath. How is he still in charge?
	Dude, when this first went down, okay, I was born in the late 70s, right?
	But I can remember being a small boy and watching Fauci on TV spread fear, right?
	Because as a child, two things always, right?
	What we're talking about, love and fear.
	You have a choice at any moment.
	You can choose love or fear, period.
	Everything else is offset to those.
	Go ahead, please. What have you just said?
	You've hit the nail on the button.
	Wetiko? Love.
	Love or fear.
	Choose. Choose. Any moment, right?
	And the more you do this, it's almost like exercise, right?
	It becomes... Like, you observe the fear, right?
	Like, and that's all I see it now is just a big wall of fear kind of thing, right?
	And you observe that, and it almost inspires me to love harder now, right?
	To, like, choose love even more.
	Like, I'm full tilt in the love side, you know what I mean?
	Full tilt. Yeah.
	This is what's going to build a new world, because this is going down.
	We're going to have a brutal two, three years, but this is going down.
	I'll promise you that. Absolutely.
	But you look at Fauci.
	You've just said it again.
	Oh, that guy. He spreads fear.
	He spreads fear. What do all these people do?
	And confusion, right? Confusion is fear.
	It's confusion and fear.
	It's chaos, fear, and inversion.
	One of the great things about Watico, it's an inversion of love.
	Evil is the absence of love, in my definition.
	And therefore, you look at how anything that Wotiko impacts upon becomes an inversion.
	So here we have a COVID response.
	Which is said to be about protecting public health when the inversion is it's destroying public health on a vast scale.
	And you look at this, what the Satanists do, the Satanists of Wotiko, their expressions of Wotiko, and all these people who do their sacrifices, that's the extreme expressions of Wotiko.
	And look at their symbolism.
	They invert everything.
	They invert the pentagram, they invert the cross.
	Which is not about inverting the cross because Christianity, the cross is an ancient esoteric symbol.
	They invert everything. So they invert the cross, they invert everything.
	And this is why the Nazis, they took the swastika and they spun it.
	You can see the swastika out in Japan all over the place, but it's not.
	Yeah, it's like a Buddhist symbol.
	It's a Buddhist symbol, just kind of twisted.
	Exactly. Because the Nazis were an expression of a Tico.
	So if you look at this COVID situation, these super psychopaths like Gates and the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds and all these people that are involved in driving this, they are extreme expressions of Wotiko, really extreme expressions.
	And so they're psychopaths.
	Because psychopathy is Wotiko.
	It's this consciousness which attaches to people and they become psychopaths if it attaches powerful enough.
	Powerfully enough. So you have this situation with psychopaths where there's something called the hair test, which is named after a guy who invented it.
	And it's a list of traits that if you have enough of them, you're officially a psychopath.
	And the top two are no empathy and no compassion and lying, lying as much as you need to to get what you want with no compulsion at all about how much you lie.
	Now, look at those three traits, and you're looking at the traits of those driving the COVID hoax, in fact, running the world, but driving the COVID hoax in this case.
	So there you have Wutiko that is running this, okay?
	Now, you look at the mainstream media, and you look at Silicon Valley, and you look at the people involved there.
	Now, what are they doing?
	They're all Wutiko. I mean, people like Zuckerberg and Dorsey at Twitter, and not that he runs Twitter.
	And the people that run Google and Susan Wachiski, the CEO of Google on YouTube, these people are Wetiko.
	They're Wetiko. They're very, very evil.
	I'm convinced they're robots, David. I don't know, man.
	What is going on there?
	Biden, is he a robot?
	Watching them, they don't look human anymore, man.
	I do go into this in the book, you know, that one expression of this Wotiko control is cyborgs.
	I mean, when I look at Bill Gates, there's no one bloody own.
	There isn't. You look in their eyes, there's no life.
	No. Because they're Wotiko, which is the inversion of life, there's no life.
	They've got no life in their eyes.
	They've got no love in their eyes.
	Yeah, their light is gone.
	Yeah. Exactly.
	Completely. So then you come down to these people in the media.
	And what are they doing?
	They're lying. I mean, the media have always lied.
	But in the COVID era, the lies and the coordination of the lies worldwide is absolutely extraordinary.
	I mean, you know, the things they say that are not true are coming out by the minute.
	So there you have...
	People are quite prepared to lie in support of the psychopath's agenda with no compulsion whatsoever about lying, and that's Wetiko.
	But here's the other thing.
	In lower levels of Wetiko control, not to the level that you will be a psychopath or a genetic liar, but you're still attached to it.
	You're starting to look at the...
	Be asleep. And the ones that have taken the jab without question, the ones that have believed what the government tells them without question, they've also been verticaled in the sense that an attachment has taken place as they've fallen into these low vibrational states of frequency, not least through fear, and they start to be affected.
	And one of the ways that, obviously, what vertical doesn't want is its agenda being questioned.
	So it shuts these people down.
	So they literally can't process information to form a conclusion.
	You know, what awakened people do that are not in the Wetiko field is they take information from different sources and they make conclusions from it.
	But the asleep...
	Take government statements, official statements, mainstream media statements, as a conclusion in and of itself.
	There's no filtering goes on.
	They say it, and so they believe it.
	And this is how Wotiko works.
	And so you have this other situation, which is, on the face of it, bizarre.
	And that is where people are living in families...
	And the family unit, overwhelmingly, perhaps in its entirety, except for them, has bought the COVID lie and the COVID hoax.
	And one member of the family, this is something to doctors who've spoken out, one member of the family says, actually, I don't buy it.
	Now, what you would normally expect in a rational, sane situation is Is, well, we don't agree with you.
	Or explain to us why.
	Some discourse. Some sort of discourse.
	Yeah. Or at least, you know, okay, well, we don't agree with you, but, you know, I think we think you're bloody crazy thinking that.
	But what has happened, and this has happened all over the world, suddenly these people are just ostracized.
	They're cut out of their family.
	One doctor was talking about his front door key was taken away.
	What? This is totally irrational.
	This is insanity. But if you are in a Watico-controlled, in effect, possessed state of awareness, consciousness, or lack of awareness, Then that is not going to want you to do anything but be very, very antagonistic and very, very dismissive of anyone that's pushing back on the Wittiko agenda.
	And this is why in this period, well, we've seen it already, but in this period we're going into, you're going to see the asleep Used massively as the foot soldiers of the cult through the governments and the medical pyramids to attack and demonize and support anything that is targeting the awake and the unjabbed.
	And Wotiko's gone.
	So when you awaken, Wotiko doesn't want you to know anything.
	It doesn't exist, right?
	And that's the greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing everyone it doesn't exist, right?
	Exactly. Holding up a mirror and saying, I don't exist.
	It is literally a state of consciousness.
	That's what it is, a very distorted state of consciousness.
	And when you start to awaken, when you open your heart, when you're talking about it, when you go into the realms of love, you know, I've been on these massive marches in London, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people walking through the streets of London protesting for freedom and stuff.
	And we had a fantastic event in Trafalgar Square.
	I saw your speech. It was great.
	I've been on protest marches over the decades, going way back against wars and stuff.
	But the energy of these gatherings is something else.
	I've never come across anything like it.
	On Saturday in Trafalgar Square, it was the most powerful expression of this energy that I've come across.
	And what you see When you're among people like this, you see smiles, you see laughter, you see joy, you see mutual support.
	Love. Expressions of love.
	It's that.
	This is what's going to turn this around.
	For reasons I'll go into in a book I'm going to write in the winter, this is going to be turned around.
	But we've got a brutal few years to come.
	We're in it. We're in it for sure, yeah.
	The point is that the...
	The consciousness that I'm talking about, you know, that is seeing, it's high vibrational consciousness.
	It's not affected by Wotiko.
	Wotiko can't connect with it because the frequencies are so different.
	It's different, yeah. And therefore, suddenly, people who go through this awakening What does this Wotiko frequency band relate to?
	The five senses and the subconscious.
	So when you move out of the five senses alone, you're moving out of Wotiko control of your perception and therefore you start to see things you couldn't see before.
	And this is what we're looking at.
	And what's the answer?
	You open your heart. What's the answer?
	You love. What's the answer?
	You feel joy.
	You are joyous in the knowledge that you are a point of consciousness with an infinite reality.
	That is infinite, eternal, and will forever explore the infinite possibility of infinite reality infinitely.
	So this is just a little local difficulty in a tiny band of frequency called the human world.
	And once you get that perspective, Because we're all going to die eventually.
	Thank God!
	We're not going to die.
	We're not going to die. Thank God!
	Hands up anyone who wants to live here forever.
	Put my hand down.
	I mean, there's a great quote by Martin Luther King.
	He was 38 at the time.
	It was a long quote, but basically this is just a bit.
	You can be 38 years old and you can face a challenge to stand up for some great cause, some great principle.
	But you are frightened of what might happen if you stand up for this cause.
	And so you don't.
	And he said, you can go on and live until you are 90, but the secession of life of your body at 90 will merely be basically the physical secession of a death, a spiritual death that happened when you were 38.
	So you stand up for a cause and something happens and you leave this world at 38.
	Or you leave this world at 90 by keeping your head down.
	So, I mean, you know, sorry, 38s for me.
	I'm going with the 38s.
	Yeah, you want to live forever? Go ahead, man.
	Yeah, so this is why, you know, I started off when we started chatting, saying how important this understanding that there is no death, and life goes on, and God, you know, the reality is beyond this one.
	I mean, we're really, really in a shit hole.
	We really are.
	This is a real- This is it!
	This is a real challenging place because of this Wetiko.
	Don't let anyone get the impression that beyond the walls of this Wetiko world, it's all like this.
	It's not. This is a real extreme negative place.
	And a lot of us have come in at this time to rid the place of Wetiko.
	Yeah. So we can have a world that we would all love to have, one of love and respect and joy and happiness and the pursuit of your thing that gives you passion.
	Joy, we need more of that, right?
	Yeah, exactly. And all those states are high vibrational states.
	And if you look at what's happening, In the COVID era, because if you go into the big, big picture of this, this Wotiko knows that this challenge is coming, and this challenge is coming.
	There is external...
	Intervention starting to really come in, and it's coming in in the form of high vibrational energy to change the nature of the field and to rid the Wotico domination of this field.
	And that's why, you know, we'll get to 2024-ish and maybe a bit earlier, and you're going to start to see very clear signs that this thing's going down.
	Even, you know, when it seems to be in control, you'll see it going down.
	Because the power of this Wetiko is to control this field I talked about earlier.
	Once this field moves into high vibrational states, it can't control anymore.
	It's got no power to control.
	And therefore, the manifestation of this field goes from wotiko, which is control, to freedom and love and joy.
	This is coming. It really is.
	I mean, if I've ever said anything that's true, this is coming.
	But it's going to be a big challenge in the short term.
	And a lot of people who've made...
	Low vibrational decisions about the jab are going to take the consequences, but unfortunately, they're going to leave the body and continue to another reality, which is far nicer than this one is currently.
	It's very important that people just start to look at the fact that life Life is eternal.
	Life goes on. We are consciousness.
	We are indestructible.
	And we take form for certain experiences.
	But we are the consciousness having the experience through the form.
	And then everything changes.
	You lose the fear of death. Why has the COVID era had so much control over people?
	Fear of death. Fear of death.
	Fear of living. Yeah.
	Well, that's part of it, too.
	Right? If you're afraid to die, then you're afraid to live.
	It's just the way it is.
	Yeah, exactly. But, you know, they said there was a deadly virus.
	So what do people think?
	I might die. My kids might die.
	So, suddenly, fear, protect me from what I fear.
	So, authority says, you've got to do this, you've got to lock down, you've got to do this, you've got to do that.
	Oh, yeah, okay, do it. Oh, put the mask on.
	Yeah, we'll do that. Because of fear of death.
	But I've never had a fear of COVID. Not only because it doesn't exist, but I've never had a fear of COVID because, you know, and therefore, I've not had a fear of any of this stuff.
	And somehow, this is a miracle, Mike, This is a miracle.
	Absolutely it is. Somehow, over the period of the COVID era, from the spring of 2020 to now, I've not worn a mask.
	I've not social distanced. If people want to get out of my way, good luck to you, mate.
	But I'm not getting out of yours. I'll hug you.
	Come on. I've not said any of this stuff.
	Not put toxic shite in my body.
	Not in any of that.
	And, you know, in these big events in Trafalgar Square, it's been three now, going back to August, September last year, and people come up to you and you're hugging people.
	You're hugging hundreds and hundreds of people all the time.
	You go on these massive marches.
	People are coming up to you all the time.
	You're hugging them and that stuff.
	And I've not had a bloody sniffle.
	So there's a miracle for you.
	Somehow I've survived.
	Somehow. I don't know.
	It's amazing, isn't it?
	The ones that aren't frightened of it, they don't get it.
	Right? But then the ones who are running out trying to protect themselves are getting it over and over again or getting...
	See, and this is where I was raised a little bit different, you know what I mean?
	And my, again, whatever God gave me the energy to have perception, to see things differently growing up,
	I just always saw these jabs and these pharmaceuticals to be the cause of the problem, not the solution.
	And so when you grow up that way, it's just a completely different outlook
	on the whole thing, right?
	And so, yeah.
	I love it when people say, so you're an anti-vaxxer.
	You know, a lot of people go, oh no, I'm not against vaccines.
	No, I'm just questioning this one.
	Basically, so you're an anti-vaxxer.
	Yeah, I am absolutely anti-vaxxer.
	A thousand percent, man, yes. I will never inject myself with a foreign substance with mercury in it.
	One of the most deadliest substances known to man, and everybody knows that it's been in that vaccine.
	Not just this one, all the vaccines for however long.
	It just blows my freaking mind, man.
	So you've got an immune system, which is a work of absolute genius.
	And what you do is you undermine it from the day you're born.
	You say, before the immune system's actually formed in a child, you bombard it with its toxic shite.
	And the immune system will never be what it could be for the rest of that child's life.
	But what it is, is...
	The five senses don't question.
	So the five senses, the questioning consciousness is the expanded consciousness.
	The five senses don't question.
	What they do is they accept and repeat.
	So it's like it's always been like this.
	Therefore, it's how you do it.
	It doesn't say, well, hold on a minute.
	Can we ask some questions about this?
	Yeah. But, you know, the five senses don't do that.
	So the five senses will look at the education system, and they'll say, oh, yeah, well, what happens is you're born, and then when you're three or four, you go to school, and then you go to school, and then you go to school, and then you go to university, and then you go to college, and what a conscious, expanded mind does, it looks at it, and it goes...
	Yeah, but what are they bloody learning?
	What have they been taught?
	Nobody thought that.
	And what's the benefit of filling a child's mind with irrelevant facts that if it needs them, they'll be able to find them when it's adult, if it needs them.
	When there's trees to climb and there's things to do.
	And consciousness to explore.
	All this other stuff.
	Yeah. Yeah. So that's what an awakening mind does.
	It says, you know, I know five sense mind.
	That's what happens.
	But why does it happen?
	To what end?
	And then what you realize, of course, very quickly, is that the education system is just a perceptual programming operation.
	That's what it's for. Indoctrination system.
	And it's worldwide.
	We have bred a bunch of regurgitators.
	That's what you're saying. People who can regurgitate, but they have no thinking mind, which to me is the most exciting part of life.
	Learning new shit and discovering and exploring and being adventurous.
	All that now is, like, you can't be adventurous anymore.
	Because, again, that goes back to what we were saying.
	That means that you're living life now.
	That means that's joy, excitement.
	Yeah, but that's a good point. The idea is to live life, but what asleep people do is let life live them.
	That's what's happening. Life is living them.
	Wotiko's living them.
	And awakened people start to live life.
	So if we look at that, there's the asleep level, and then there's the critically thinking level, and then there's the renegade mind.
	Because there's a lot of people that critically think and see things and work things out.
	But having worked out what's happening, they still accept what is happening.
	They don't refuse to cooperate with it because they're frightened of the consequences or they don't want to upset anybody or they don't want to be criticized and all that stuff.
	They worry about what people think of them.
	They've worked it out a bit, but actually doing anything about it But the renegade mind is different.
	The renegade mind or renegade heart is a maverick, always a maverick.
	And a maverick, a renegade mind says, okay, I can see what's happening, and I'm not cooperating with it.
	I'm not cooperating with it. Under no circumstances am I cooperating with this.
	Because a renegade mind has self-respect.
	And self-respect is the bulwark against tyranny.
	It always has been. Because self-respect says, I don't care what you're telling me to do.
	I'm not doing it. We'll do this to you.
	We'll do that to you. We'll bloody well do it, mate.
	I still ain't doing it. Because I'm going to hand you my self-respect if I do what you tell me just because you tell me.
	When I know why you're telling me to do it, I know the consequences and where you want to take this.
	So if I do it just because you tell me, I'm handing you my self-respect.
	When self-respect is handed over, what's left?
	Submission. That's all that's left.
	This is an interesting point because it's all psychology.
	You look at the The networks, the so-called scientific advisory networks that are advising the British government, they're dominated by behavioural psychologists.
	All these regulations, they're not about health, they're about psychology.
	There's masks, they're all about psychology.
	And one of the things that they hide behind is incompetence and stupidity.
	Now, are there incompetent and stupid politicians and officials?
	Absolutely. But I'm talking about people running this.
	But they hide behind that.
	So when they, for instance, give you COVID regulations that are obviously contradictory, are obviously blatantly stupid, are obviously not based on any science.
	Yeah, lock yourself away.
	Don't get any sunlight.
	Yeah. They'll tell you that the biggest way to kill this virus, well, the biggest way to kill this virus is just stop talking about it because it doesn't exist.
	But let's say it does.
	They say the biggest way to kill this virus is sunlight.
	And then they tell you you've got to go sit in your home for 23 hours a day.
	So, you know, the contradictions are there.
	The point I'm making, though, Is that they're meant to be seen as contradictory and they're meant to be seen as ridiculous and stupid and bearing no resemblance to reality.
	Because if they can get you to see that and you still do it...
	They have hoovered up your self-respect and they've got you into a state of submission.
	And that's why when this started, all this lockdown stuff started in the spring of 2020, I said I'm not doing any of it.
	I'm not doing any of it. I don't care what the consequences are.
	I'm not doing any of it.
	Because I know it's nonsense.
	I know why they're doing it.
	I know to what end they're doing it.
	And I'm not going to cooperate with my own enslavement and the enslavement of other people.
	So I'm not doing it. And up to now, consequences well enough.
	But I think I'm going to look these people in the eye big time in the next few months.
	But anyway, I won't do it.
	Because if I do do it, when I know why it's being done, Then I'm handing myself respect over and I won't do it.
	Renegade minds will never hand over their self-respect.
	They'd rather die first. Amen.
	Amen. Here's the freaking renegade minds, David Icke.
	Amen, brother. And you know what's so funny is that, or whatever, but right when you're saying that, I can't remember where, maybe it was when you were on with Brian Rose or whatever, because I was the same thing.
	As soon as I was like, first of all, if you put a mask on, then you're letting them know you are submitting.
	So nobody put a fucking mask on, period.
	What are you doing? Hard line in the sand.
	My body, my choice. What happened to all this shit, right?
	So anyway, but to hear again, once again...
	Here we are in this 20-year cycle or whatever it is, but just to have you there, right?
	Because again, it was me and my wife, and all of our friends left us, right?
	Everybody, because of course they're completely into it, and me and my wife are the only ones who are like, nope, right?
	But then again, here we have David Icke, who is like on our side, right?
	And it was like a one-way mirror, so I couldn't say thank you, and like, yes, we agree, and we're here with you, and we're not acquiescing, you know what I mean?
	And we're on the other side of the pond here, you know what I mean?
	We're down here in Arizona, but...
	Again, thank you, David.
	Thank you for your resolve, for standing up, for being here still.
	Man, you're an original truther, my brother.
	I just can't tell you how amazing it's.
	Thank you. Thank you.
	The renegade mind will never cross the line to tyranny because fascism is never brought in by fascists.
	Fascism is never imposed by fascists because there's never enough of them.
	Fascism is imposed by the population acquiescing to fascism.
	Which is a very different thing.
	And so we have to realize that authority doesn't have power.
	There's no power over us. The power that authority appears to have is the power we give it in the form of acquiescence.
	How can a relative handful of people dictate the lives of nearly eight billion?
	It's impossible if the eight billion refuse to cooperate.
	Right. And to hand over their self-respect, which is what it comes down to in the end.
	So we have the answer, I mean, in pure mathematics, but there are other things going on.
	And you see, the power of love and the power that comes from it, because love is the absence of fear.
	Love in its true sense doesn't have fear, because it knows from the bigger picture of reality and eternal life that there is nothing to fear.
	But love, the power of love is so unbelievably, vastly greater than the power of what we call evil, the inversion of love, the absence of love called evil, that it's not going to take 50% of the population or even anywhere near that to turn this around.
	It's not. Because of the difference in the power of the two states of being.
	And so...
	So that's our solution. We're going to have a lot of challenges in the next little while.
	But I would say to people, please, please just hold that thought, that knowing, that on the other side of this, this is going down.
	And it's a wonderful opportunity, isn't it?
	Because this Wotiko and all its expressions through this global cult, this global cult and the secret society network, it's just a physical expression of Wotiko.
	That's all it is. That's why it lacks compassion, no compassion, no empathy and all this stuff.
	But this has been operating from the unseen all the way through known human history.
	It's been manipulating human society in a direction, but it's been doing it from the unseen.
	It's been doing it kind of subtly.
	It's been doing it from the hidden.
	But in the COVID era, it's...
	It's gone centre stage, where people can increasingly see it.
	And so here's an opportunity, not just to, you know, stop the COVID fascism.
	This is an opportunity, and it will be taken.
	This is what's going to happen, to rid this reality of this Wetiko consciousness, once and for all.
	And it's like, if you want to hold a ball in a tank, In an unnatural position, then you hold it on the bottom of the tank.
	And to keep it there in an unnatural state, you have to keep your hand on it.
	You have to keep holding it there because it's not where it would go normally.
	It wouldn't go there naturally.
	And this is symbolic of this suppression of consciousness into the five senses, cutting off the multidimensional influence.
	Yeah. But once that Watiko has been weakened and loses its power in this reality, you don't really have to do anything then.
	Because what you've basically done is you've taken the hand off that ball and immediately, boom, the ball's on the top of the tank floating on the water because that's its natural state.
	And that's what's going to happen to humanity.
	There's some fantastic times coming, fantastic times, on the other side of this...
	Rather challenging, period.
	Amen. Amen.
	Thank you, David. Thank you, man.
	I love listening to you.
	We've seen all your shows on Gaia.
	Are you going to do any more of those?
	Again, you're talking our language, the love language, you know what I mean?
	A lot of people can't hear that, you know what I mean?
	And it's the static noise and it's like, and that's where, yeah, again, your resolve all these years has been inspiring.
	Well, it's been fantastic. I'm really glad your wife is on board, because there's a lot of people, unfortunately, are in relationships now, where one's got it and one has not got it.
	It wouldn't work. And you know what's funny is we've only been together a couple years, you know what I mean?
	We just moved in together in January of 2020, right, into a small apartment.
	I'm a musician, right, and I was...
	For a long time, I never thought anything was going to change, David.
	I really didn't, man. I just kind of, I was like, you know what I mean?
	I don't know, did you ever experience this?
	Do you just get tired of trying to explain to people?
	You know what I mean? And then finally, I just stopped talking for years about any of it.
	It was just like, it's not worth it.
	You know what I mean? 2008 happened and I thought for sure 2008 was going to be it.
	I was like, oh man, it's all popping off.
	And then we actually bailed out the banks and all that stuff.
	And I was just like, oh my God.
	So, you know what I mean? It was just...
	Yeah, but that was all part of centralizing financial power as well on the road to where we are now.
	You know, mate, there's obviously been times when you bang your head against the wall for long enough and you get a headache.
	But my headaches have only lasted, you know, the time it takes to...
	Go to bed, really. Gotcha, okay.
	You get the end of the day and you think, you know, so many times over the years, what's the bloody point?
	You know, when I've gone out in the early days and I've spoken, spoken words of wisdom to a hall of empty chairs.
	Now you're speaking in front of the hundreds of thousands, man.
	You know what I mean? Look how, I mean, jeez.
	So you think, you know, what's the point?
	And you go to bed, you think, what's the point?
	And you wake up the next morning, right, let's go.
	Let's go, yeah. And that's what it's been like, really.
	Because something within me has always known this was leading somewhere.
	And it's always known that ultimately it's leading somewhere fantastic.
	And so I don't have any reason to change that feeling now.
	So choose love.
	Everybody, ladies and gentlemen, everybody, thank you for watching.
	This is David Icke. However, I just wanted to say, I think out of this amazingly beautiful conversation...
	The solution, because that's something...
	We're very solution-driven.
	I don't know if we have...
	Look, you would, but we have a job board.
	We have a directory. As soon as all this went down, I immediately got to work in building the counter-economy.
	So if you want to do this, well, we're doing the opposite.
	It's just what I do. I'm like you.
	I'm just a stubborn bastard, man.
	I'll never... That's exactly what we need to do.
	The people that are pushing back, we need to create...
	And it's happening here, where I live, on the Isle of Wight, in England...
	We have to create our own networks of support and networks of people who have certain skills, you know, whatever.
	I mean, I know people here looking at buying land for food and stuff.
	This is very important, that those that are awakening and pushbacking, that we build support systems for each other.
	And when people fall and we pick them up, that's what we need to do.
	Beautiful. Now, real quick before we go, do you want to kind of let anybody know how they can get a hold of you or find you if they don't know?
	We're going to have notes and we do all that kind of stuff, but if you wanted to advertise your book or anything cool?
	The Perceptions of a Renegade Mind is going to be in America very shortly.
	Beautiful. And it's not one of my massive books.
	I've written this to get people up to speed very quickly.
	But it also goes into real deep areas like Wotiko and how it works.
	And it demolishes the COVID hoax, completely demolishes it.
	So there's that.
	And there's davidack.com, which is the hub where the news stories go up every day with putting context and all my videos go up there.
	And then there's Iconic, which is kind of an alternative Netflix.
	Awesome. There's a vast array of videos, documentaries, original documentaries.
	We also license other documentaries to play on the channel.
	And there's news programs as well.
	My son Gareth fronts up one called Right Now.
	It goes out every Friday. So that's just taken off massively.
	And it's not just about, you know, conspiracy.
	All the things we've been talking about.
	And in fact, I'm going up to Derby, where the studios are, next week to record a 14-part series on the nature of reality.
	And we've got an animation team that's going to symbolize through animation, you know, the world that we can't see.
	So that you can see how everything actually is one where the five senses can't see that.
	So it could be fascinating. And so it's right across the whole range of alternative subjects that are covered there.
	My son, Jamie, had the idea.
	He's done a fantastic job pulling it together.
	Beautiful. Awesome.
	Awesome. Well, I love you.
	Thank you. I love you too.
	We love each other.
	We'll get out of here. That's it.
	Let's end on that. Thank you so much, David.
	We'll be in touch. Everybody, thefreedompeople.org.
	Come and sign up. We love you.
	Thank you so much. Bye, David.
	Cheers, mate. Bye. Stage one, you create a problem. It could be a manufactured virus.
	You want a reaction and you want them to either say, do something, or you want them to accept what the authorities suggest must be done.
	So one of the agendas is to massively cull the population.

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