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May 10, 2021 - David Icke
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David Icke - The Freedom Podcast
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♪♪♪ Welcome to the Freedom Broadcasters weekly call.
And we've got Chris Ryan from Mind Wars.
We've got Steve Ferraro of Awakend Mind.
Hartman Schupenhacker of Go Your Own Path.
And Grace with Quantum Nurse.
Today, we are honored to have our guest.
He's the author of numerous books, including The Biggest Secret and The Answer.
I know loads of people that love David.
He's woken him up. He's been attacked.
Years ago, he went on a show, Terry Rogan's show, and people ridiculed him for that.
He's a fantastic father, and it hurted his children because they had to live with that as well.
But nobody mentions 15 years later He went back, and he's a brave man to go back to the corrupt BBC. And on that show, I will read what he said.
We vote sheep the sheep as humans keeping each other in line, and we do it by ridicule or condemning anyone who commits the crime.
He is showing what is going on now.
David, please welcome to the show.
Thanks very much. Yeah, you know, it's funny how you see patterns.
One of the things I'm always looking for is patterns, because patterns give you the picture.
The dots give you everything apart from everything else.
And, you know, you see patterns through history.
And if you look at almost, well, not almost, at every point in history, you'll find the basic foundation of what you just read out.
Which is that people out-sheet the sheep.
Because, you know, people laugh at sheep because they follow the one in front.
And what's going on? I mean, I stood there once at the side of a field and I watched this enormous flock of sheep walk down the hill.
And there was a guy in front with a stick in his hand and there was a sheep dog.
And the shepherd had no power whatsoever, incredibly symbolic of the dynamic between the public and authority.
He had no power whatsoever except the power the sheep gave him by just following him.
And then any sheep that didn't want to do that, they got the sheepdog symbolic of fear.
And if you look at that dynamic, that has allowed the few to control the many throughout known human history.
That simple thing.
I'll do what authority says.
I'll believe what authority tells me.
And if I don't want to do that, I am open to being brought back into line through fear.
And we are sitting here.
Amid this COVID outrage, actually because of the same dynamic.
It's unbelievable.
And until that breaks, then humanity will go on being controlled by the few.
Because when you look at the numbers, what, getting on for 8 billion people, And at the core of the core that actually is running global society, you get the core of the core in a single room.
It's obvious that that could never happen, purely mathematically, unless the vast many fell for that acquiescence and fear dynamic which has kept humanity in line all this time.
I know we can go down lots of rabbit holes, but there's one that's because there's something that you said recently.
You were on about the Freemasons because I know a lot of the presidents and a lot of the people that are kind of ruling around the world come from Masonic lodges.
And you said you've been to one and you felt they were clueless.
I actually felt I'd done the same years ago in Ireland.
I was invited to an open, went in there, and I thought I was expecting to be kind of blown away by the knowledge and everything.
I said, these guys aren't at the races.
And I'm just curious, like, where you went from there?
Well, yeah. I've been in three Masonic lodges.
One down the road from here, in Ride on the Isle of Wight, where I live.
Because, you know, when...
The Freemasons were getting a bit of stick a few years ago.
Some of them started having, I think they've stopped it now because of the COVID thing, but they started having open days so that the public could go along and see how warm and cuddly they were.
So I went there with a friend of mine, of course.
And the other one, another one I went to was, it was a strange story.
I was invited to speak at this, like in those days, it was called New Age, a New Age kind of event.
So I turned up at this place and I walked in and I thought, this is bloody strange.
There's no bloody windows. And I realized I'm in a Freemasonic lodge.
They've hired it out to these people in this conference.
So, and I actually, it was hilarious, really, because I did a talk about how secret societies like the Freemasons were involved in this manipulation, and I'm doing it in this big kind of Freemasonic temple thing.
It's a big one, and instead of having black and white, you know, the floor as you see it, it was a black and white carpet in this particular one.
So anyway, with some others, I nipped down and I had a look around when no one was around and went into a few of the temples.
And the other one was in Boston, Massachusetts, when it was a group of us, a small group of us.
And we walked in just to see what would happen.
And there was nobody there.
So we kept walking. There's nobody bloody there.
The only person we met the whole time was someone doing a bit of building work.
So there's a picture of me somewhere, you might see it on the internet, sitting in the chair in the temple.
There's nobody there. But the common theme was the energy.
The energy was horrible. Actually, not least down the road from here in this one in Rye.
And absolutely right.
I went in. And there's these symbols all over the place, as there always are.
And I was asking these people in this open day, what does that mean?
What does that mean? And they kept telling me it's lost in antiquity.
I thought it's not. They're clueless.
On the lower levels about what it's really for.
And the way it works is clearly secret societies by their very nature are compartmentalised.
They are broken up into degrees and you only go into the degree above you if those above you decide that you are worthy of it.
And so it's fiercely compartmentalised.
And the great, great majority of Freemasons in the world are on the bottom levels of degree.
The bottom three, the so-called blue degrees.
And Basically, they have no idea what they're part of.
They might think, oh, it's been a good business, you know, do some business in the lodge.
But in terms of the big picture, it's all going on at levels that they know nothing about.
And, you know, a long time ago, this is way back in the 90s, I read a book by a Freemason in America.
His name was Shaw. And it was like, I didn't get wide distribution, but I managed to get a copy.
It was very, very interesting.
And he was telling the story.
Of how he joined the Freemasons and was invited to join the Freemasons and then he started getting promotion at work and stuff and he was going up and up and up the degrees and he told the story of how once the guy running the lodge said to him you ought to apply for this job And he said, well, I'm not really qualified.
He says, oh, no. He said, no, I'll never get it.
He said, no, just apply, just apply.
So he goes along and there's about two or three other people and they're going to put them through a test.
Like a test to see who should get the job.
And he said, I went through this test real fast.
He said, and I was out of the place.
He said, I left them behind the others.
They were still at it. And he got the job.
And he said he realized later that he didn't get the same test that they got.
So this is how it goes on all the time, where these secret societies get their people in positions of power.
And he then told the story that he qualified for the 33rd degree.
And living in America, and it's a place I've been to, not inside, but I've been past it and up the steps a few times.
It's the supreme headquarters of the 33rd degree of the Scottish right.
And it's just down from the White House in Washington, D.C. And it looks just like a massive Egyptian temple.
You know, you've got the sphinx outside and the pillars and all that stuff.
And he said he went there because he was going to get his 33rd degree.
And he said that there were people there, you know, famous people, former presidents, he didn't name them, but he didn't even realize they were Freemasons.
And he said at the end, when they got their 33rd degree kind of bestowed upon them, he said a friend of his came up who just got the 33rd degree and said, I'm going higher.
And this guy goes, what do you mean you're going higher?
It's only 33 degrees.
Ah, but there are if you are a chosen one.
Because what you've got is all these different secret societies And they feed their elite of the elite through the top of the official degree pyramid into this other pyramid, which I call the Illuminati pyramid, for want of a name.
And that's where the real action is.
And just to finish the story, he said that he eventually kind of...
Fell out with them.
He didn't like some of the things he was seeing.
And so he started trying to challenge it and go against it.
And then eventually he resigned from it.
And as he did, all the things that he got on the way up were taken away because he was no longer in the Freemasons, you know, jobs, everything.
So that's the way it works.
I've seen as well, like Prince Philip, I've seen a meeting that was recorded where he was leading it, and there was thousands of people inside it.
And I know from your book, The Biggest Secret, like you've been exposing the royalty, what's going on there.
I've even seen a child coming out the window.
I was only talking to my mother today about that, and that was all hidden up.
There was a young boy naked climbing out the window and fell, and it was all hushed up.
You've been exposing that, but he's part of that as well, isn't he?
He was. Well, yeah.
I came across, or he came across me, a man in America, and we had long correspondence.
And he said that he was the unofficial son of a Rothschild, Baron Philippe, who ran the...
The wine operation in France, Newton, all that stuff.
And he said he was brought up there.
And he was being developed to play his part in the grand conspiracy, he said.
And his part was going to be that he was going to be placed in significant positions of power within the Christian church to undermine it.
And he described to me how the And I knew this anyway.
He didn't know at the time, but he's telling me what I already knew, that they have an enormous family of Rothschilds.
I'm coming round to Prince Philip in a sec.
Enormous family of Rothschilds, all unofficial.
And they've got sperm banks because of the particular, well, if you break it down, information field.
We would say genetic structure that they want to hold.
That's why they interbreed with each other.
You interbreed outside of that genetic web and it starts to dilute.
So they're trying to hold it because there's a particular information field.
That they want to maintain across the generations.
This is the real inner core now.
And these Rothschilds and the other elite founders do the same, are then put into positions of power, but they don't have the name Rothschild.
They're the Rothschild bloodline, but they don't have the name Rothschild.
And so someone comes up and you think, oh, yeah, well, you know, he's got a cover story or she's got a cover story for how she came through and now he's in this position of power in politics or whatever area it is.
But actually, they're a Rothschild just under another name.
And they literally have families in this cult that bring up these kids as if they're their own when actually they're They're not.
And he was talking about the fact that he'd attended satanic rituals and stuff like that.
And he said, it makes me shake my head when I see, you know, in those days, this is a few years ago now, I see these famous people on CNN, you know, being reported on CNN that I attended satanic rituals with.
And he talked about His experience with the Clintons.
Also a guy who was called Alan Greenspan.
Alan Greenspan was the head of the Federal Reserve in America for a very, very long time, all the way through Well, most of the 80s and then into the 90s and the 2000s.
He stood down a couple of years before the crash in 2008.
And what they say is that, and this is again how this whole thing works, what they say is the President of the United States appoints the head of the Federal Reserve.
In this case, it was Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Boy Bush.
But that's not the way it works, because you've got the public hierarchy of the politicians and the levels of the hierarchy.
And in America, of course, supposedly at the top of that pyramid is the present.
But then you've got the satanic hierarchy.
And that's a different hierarchy to this one, but this is where the power is.
And because he was explaining to me, Alan Greenspan was higher up this hierarchy than very much higher than the presidents.
He was telling them he was going to be appointed, not the other way around.
So if you understand this satanic hierarchy, And that this public hierarchy is basically for show.
This is where the real power is.
And this is where you find the royals and Prince Philip and stuff in this other hierarchy as well as this one.
And he was telling me his Rothschild name was Philip Eugene de Rothschild.
But he was operating in America under another name because he eventually saw through it and got out.
But he was saying that Prince Philip was very, very high in this other hierarchy that I'm talking about.
And so this is where the power is.
And while Prince Philip May seem in this hierarchy to be, you know, one step behind the queen or two steps behind the queen.
Actually, he was right up there in the satanic hierarchy, and this is the one that is running things.
So if you look at the COVID situation, you see the head of the World Health Organization, you see the The heads of the medical pyramids in different countries.
You see the prime ministers and the presidents.
And this is the hierarchy here.
But actually, this other hierarchy in the shadows is the one calling the shots.
And, you know, these place people, these key place people, they would not dare to go against this hierarchy.
They do what they're told.
Now, a lot of them are selected.
Most of them are selected in particular positions of power on the basis that they don't need any encouragement anyway because they want to do it.
But if they did go against it, well, they wouldn't last very long.
They'd be at the very least out of the job.
So when you see these positions of power, like Ted Ross, Director General of the World Health Organization, they're never the ones running those organizations.
In that case, Gates is running it.
They're always front people who are just doing what they're told.
And you can see this in the COVID experience where All these different countries have actually responded in basically the same way.
And that's because it's centrally coordinated and it's this other hierarchy which collectively I call the global cult.
It's kind of an interlocking leadership that basically plays out across all these secret societies.
That's what's running it and that's what's driving the coordination across the generations.
To push the world in the direction it's been going.
It's a very, very long-term plan.
And just to You know, lay this out in terms of structure.
You have two completely different worlds.
I mean, I'm talking about these two hierarchies, but the two worlds are this cult and the secret society network with its fierce compartmentalization.
So most of the people in it don't know any of this.
They certainly don't know it down the road from here.
And then you've got the public, and you've got the public, the world of the scene.
And the world of the scene has to be kept in ignorance of what this knows, because that's the power.
We know what you don't know, so that gives us power over you.
And so over the generations, passing through this secret society network, this global cult in all its forms, is A, the plan for where humanity is being taken, We've got a bloody good idea on that now, to say the least. And also the nature of reality.
The nature of reality is passed on.
Not to the Freemasons down the lodge here, but to the inner core.
So through the generations, this level of knowledge is massively greater than this level of knowledge because the whole structure of education and media in the public arena is to keep people in ignorance.
Of what they know. And so you get a situation where when you communicate what this cult is doing, so many people in the public arena will just dismiss it because they'll say it's not possible.
They can't do that.
Well, no, they can't do that from the perception of reality that you have.
But they're not coming from that perception of reality.
They're coming from a reality much greater.
So to the public, at the moment, you're having vaccinations for a virus.
And it's going to stop me getting it.
And it's going to stop me passing it on.
Well, actually, it's not. Not even the makers claim that.
But that's the level of knowledge that most people have.
And it dictates their life.
They have it. But over here, they know what these jabs really are and what they're designed to do.
And as long as you keep those two people apart, those two groups apart in terms of knowledge, then they'll go on doing what you want.
And this is where censorship's coming from now, because what's starting to happen with the alternative media over the period I've been going, 30 years, there was no alternative media, but it started to develop, started to develop.
Now it's got very, very influential.
This is terrified that they will find out what they know.
That's not only on the basis of What's planned.
It's crucially on the basis of the nature of reality, because they know how reality works and how we interact with it.
They can manipulate us with that knowledge while we think, or we, but the public in general, think that reality is just a physical world.
And who am I? Where am I? I have no idea.
Where do I come from? Where am I going?
What's going on here? What is this place?
That's the level of ignorance, and it's systematic.
Listen, David, thank you very much.
I have to give the others a chance.
I also want to thank Sasha Stone, because he's allowed us to broadcast live.
I've been deplatformed off YouTube, so I know what it's like.
So I'll give it to Chris Ryan of Mind Wars.
Hi, David. You often talk about, you know, what you actually mentioned at the very start of this as well, is that the core of the core and the spider's web, you would fit all these people in actual one room itself.
They're so small. Who are we talking about presently?
Or are we actually talking about a non-human force as well?
Well, this is fascinating to me.
You see, I got a lot of ridicule for talking about non-human, you know, the reptilian thing and all that stuff.
It's kind of fascinating that given that planet Earth, compared with the projected size of the universe, is the equivalent of like a billionth the size of a pinhead.
So I think there's other life out there.
I do really. I feel it in the water.
But it's kind of funny, this reflex action.
It can't be happening.
And this is all part of this programming, because one of the greatest forms of programming is to limit the sense of the possible.
It's so powerful.
If you limit the sense of the possible, then you can go on outside their sense of the possible, manipulate them to heart's content, and they'll never know because they don't believe what you're doing is possible because you've limited their sense of the possible.
And this is one of the great things that has to happen.
We have to open our minds to all possibility, open the sluice gates to the mind, as I say, and let other possibility flood in.
And then we'll see actually there are other ways of explaining the world.
And one of them is certainly that there's a non-human force manipulating human society.
What happened is in the 90s, early 90s, as I started to understand that the forces that were running the show were the forces that we were seeing, I wanted to know when it started.
And I went back and back and back and back through Rome to Sumer and Babylon and all that.
Then you think, well, hold on a minute.
There's got to be a common force Spanning this period, you know, people have been born playing their part in advancing this agenda because it's very long term.
And then they've died and then other people have taken over and someone else is born and then they die.
It's like there's got to be a common force that's actually overseeing this whole thing.
And so I... I started looking for it and what I found was all over the world there was a common theme Among the religions, they use different names, yes, but the way they describe them is the same.
And the native cultures and the shamans, et cetera, in the different cultures of the world.
And they all had this theme of a non-human force manipulating human society under different names, depending on the culture.
But like I say, they were describing the same force.
And sometimes this will take a...
I'll call it an extraterrestrial expression.
But the more that I've moved on, I'm at the point now where I want to know the source.
I want to know where this is coming from.
Where is this behavior coming from?
Where is this desire to control coming from?
And I don't care if the form it's operating through is a reptilian or Bill Gates.
Oh, whoops, I repeat myself.
But I want to know what's the source and So I've gone more and more into the realms of consciousness because, you know, I lift my hand.
What's made me do that?
I decided to do that.
My consciousness said I'm going to lift my hand.
So all behavior comes from consciousness and perception.
And if you break down the control of humanity, The whole foundation of it is controlling perception, which becomes behavior and collectively becomes human society.
So this is why, again, we come back to the censorship.
Where does perception come from?
It comes from information received, personal experience, 10 o'clock news, whatever.
But it's information that leads to perception and they want to control the information completely.
So they control perception.
But that goes much wider than just that.
It goes into the realm of what the hell is behind all this?
Because obviously it's a state of perception.
It's a state of perception that says, I want control over.
I want to impose my will over.
So what is this?
And I started to pick up this theme of if you sweep away all the forms, Which are vehicles for consciousness to express itself.
Sweep away all that. And what you're left with are states of consciousness.
And these states of consciousness, of course, is very subtle differences in the range between them.
But if we just take it on a black and white level for the discussion, You're seeing these different states of consciousness so clearly now in response to this COVID hoax.
You've got the state of consciousness that believes what it's told and does what it's told and doesn't question and gets many times very angry and often vicious If you don't accept to do the same and just be as closed-minded as they are, then you've got this other consciousness.
And, you know, these marches in London recently, it was one week ago.
I was at it, yeah.
Yeah. Well, you look at the energy, the demeanor, and I've found this.
We've got quite a...
A gathering group, even on the art of white, of people that are waking up to this.
And there's a There's a consciousness.
It's a heart consciousness, really.
There's smiles.
There's laughter. There's hugs.
There's mutual support.
And it's a very different kind of energy.
This consciousness wants freedom.
It wants joy.
It wants the ability to live your life as you choose.
It wants peace.
And all these things.
But there's another consciousness which wants to control.
And part of that consciousness is that which submits to that control.
and I've come across this this consciousness I'm talking about which I say is behind this and whether it's reptilian or whether it's Bill Gates this is the consciousness that's actually working through all this and making this stuff happen this is the you know take away all the form this consciousness is the coordinating force and it's It's that, if you like, the cement that holds it all together.
And I've seen it called many different names, but there's a Native American name for it.
And all these different names are describing the same force.
Their name is Wetiko, or the Cree tribal group in America.
Their name is Wetiko.
There's other names that different tribal groups have.
And Wetiko It's a distorted, inverted, chaotic state of consciousness, which if you look at the Christian version of it, they will call it demonic.
And then you've got the Islamic version of it, they call it the djinn.
You've got the Gnostic version of it, they call it the archons or the Yaldabaoth, the demiurge.
But they're describing the same thing.
It's a very inverted and very distorted state of consciousness.
And it's operating on a particular frequency, like everything.
And obviously it's not a high frequency because of its state of being.
And what it's trying to do is to attach itself to human awareness, human consciousness.
And to do that, it has to bring human consciousness down into its frequency.
And joy, love, peace, all these things that are high frequency states, it can't attach to those states.
Never the twain shall meet.
So it structured society and got more and more in that way, the more it's got more control of society.
It structures society to bring people down into low-frequency states.
It wants people in fear.
It wants people in anxiety.
It wants people in states of hatred, states of conflict, war.
All these things are expressions of Wotiko.
And the thing is about Wotiko is it operates through all sides in a conflict.
So if you If you are in a war, then Watiko is working through both sides.
If you're in any kind of conflict, it's working through both sides.
So, you know, if we seek to, quote, resist authority in a way that we use violence, then that's Watiko resisting Watiko.
And so, as it attaches to more and more people, or as it has attached to more and more people, it's been dictating the behavior of more and more people.
And one of the expressions of it has been this woke mentality.
The woke mentality is absolutely classic Wotiko, because Wotiko is an inversion.
It averts everything.
It's an inversion of life, basically.
It's quite apt that the word evil is live written backwards, because it is an inversion of life.
And anything that is influenced, and people like Satanists, of course, are massively influenced by this Wotika consciousness, in fact, they are expressions of it, will deal in inversion.
So you look at the satanic symbolic language, it's all inversion.
They invert the pentagram, they invert the cross, everything's inverted.
And if you look at The woke mentality, which has been infiltrated into the minds of generations now, paid for and orchestrated by this cult through the education system, etc.
But the woke mentality is classic inversion.
So they talk about being anti-racist when they're fundamentally racist.
They talk about, like Antifa, being anti-fascist, but they act like fascists.
You know, they talk about inclusivity while excluding anyone that doesn't agree with them.
It's all inversion.
And when you break it down to this level of this consciousness and its influence, You can see how it is able to coordinate all that's been happening.
So Watiko is Bill Gates.
Watiko is Tedros at the World Health Organization.
Watiko are the people running the medical hierarchies in the individual countries.
Watiko are the media organizations of the world that are lying to the public on a scale, even by their standards, is unprecedented.
To benefit the agenda of the cult, of Wetiko.
This cult, this secret society network is just Wetiko incarnate.
But it's also not only those that are making things happen in terms of this agenda.
It's also, Wetiko is also that which becomes submissive And what you get with the submissive mind is that it doesn't question.
It's a closed mind.
So the psychopaths tell people what to believe and those people believe it without question because their mind is basically being firewalled.
It's just not questioning.
That's Watiko. That's Watiko's influence submitting to Watiko's agenda.
And then you've got this other consciousness, which is becoming more and more, expanding more and more to more and more people.
That has not allowed itself to fall into those low vibrational states where that attachment can take place, what's called through the ages possession.
And, you know, possessed people don't have to kind of change shape.
That's the more extreme end of it, and that can be explained as well.
But you can be influenced in very subtle ways by this consciousness if it attaches to you.
But this other consciousness, what people call the awakening consciousness, is operating on a frequency level that Wotiko cannot attach to.
And this is why the answer is to open the heart.
Because vatico cannot survive with heart energy.
It certainly can't attach to it.
What it can do is close the heart so that we no longer are operating on that heart frequency.
And the manipulation of this heart chakra, this heart vortex, to shut it down and to disturb it and to Well, create chaos in it.
That, for me, is the foundation of why we have this absolutely astonishing rate of heart disease in the world.
Because, obviously, there's great interaction between the heart vortex and what we call the physical heart.
And if this is disturbed, it's going to affect that.
And, you know, the heart is the center of everything.
And once that opens, Not only is it our biggest connection to out there, beyond the realm of Wetiko and beyond the realm of this crazy world, it's of a frequency that We cannot be affected by this.
And we have this field, this field of energy.
The human sight sense can only see holographic forms, basically.
So when we look at the world, We see the holographic forms and they appear to have space between them.
That's the way we perceive it.
Because we're not seeing what's in the space.
We're only seeing the form.
That's the way the sight sense works.
But that space is full of energy.
It's full of consciousness. And what were Tico ones?
Is to bring that field of energy, which we're all attached to, like fish swimming in the sea, it wants to bring that down to its frequency.
So because we are interacting with this field, the lower the frequency of the field, the more we're going to be impacted by that frequency, and it's going to start pulling us in.
So everyone who opens their heart, everyone that laughs in the face of fear, everyone that just realizes that we're all that is, has been, and ever can be, and this is just a short experience in a crazy world called human, The more people do that, we are putting that frequency into the field, and we're changing the frequency and the information nature of the field, and so that starts affecting people.
Because instead of being affected by this low vibrational density, suddenly people are being affected by something else, much, much higher and sees the world differently.
And so it's vital that we don't get pulled into, we must fight the enemy and, you know, we must do this and do that.
We must stockpile weapons and all that.
That's Wetiko fighting Wetiko.
We need to go above that.
And because this world is a manifestation of human consciousness, that's what it is, that's the very process by which the cult controls humanity.
It controls perception.
Thus, perception becomes individual behavior collectively.
It becomes collective behavior, which is human society.
So the key...
To changing this and the manifestations of perception, consciousness that we're now experiencing is to change perception, change consciousness, change self-identity.
So we identify with being the consciousness that we eternally are and not the names and labels that we briefly identify with in a human life.
That's where this change is going to take place.
And just finally, because If you looked at the world and you saw it only as solid and only as it appears to be, and then you look at the situation we're in, you think, we've got no bloody chance.
We've got no chance.
Because you think, well, it's going to take so long to change anything, but it's not.
The world is a manifestation of human perception.
It's a human perception made manifest.
That's all it is. And when we change perception, the world changes like that.
For instance, if human perception said, Not following the rules anymore.
We've sussed you. You've been lying to us for a year.
So no, I'm not wearing a bloody mask.
No. And I'm not doing this.
I'm not doing that. And a lot of people did it.
It's unenforceable.
Because this cult...
Only has the power we give it.
A few can't control the vast many unless the vast many give their power to the few.
It's impossible. So that's where the answer lies.
And to take our power back or stop giving it away, we need to change our perception.
Otherwise, we'll just go on giving away like we always have.
100% agree, and the way you break it down is defined so logically and easy to understand as well, but yeah, I want to just touch briefly on, just before I pass it over to Steve, because I don't want to hug all the time, but you talk a lot, just touching back on hierarchies as well, and the pyramid structure and all that.
Do a lot of people talk, you know, we could argue all day how many bloodlines, a lot of people say there's 13 bloodline families that go back through history in thousands and thousands of years.
For the sake of the conversation, if there is 13 bloodline families, I believe there's more from what research I've done, is...
Do they have their own hierarchy pyramid within those, for example, 13 families that they're structured compartmentalized down on?
Or do they actually all sort of get on with each other?
Oh, no. No, I mean, you know, when you've got a mentality that wants power over, then it's not going to suspend that among itself.
But in the end, all these different families, although they will express themselves in different ways and they'll have different things they want to do and I'm sure want to be at the top of the bloody greasy pole, the common theme is Ritika.
It's this consciousness.
And so, you know, it's like, just imagine a field of consciousness, Wotiko, chaotic, imbalanced, inverted.
And here's Gates.
Here's Tedros. Here's the World Health Organization.
Here's the media. Here's Silicon Valley.
And actually, the common connection between them, it's the same consciousness.
And so they act basically the same way, although, of course, there will be rivalries within them by their very nature.
And, you know, in the end, You know, I went through the 90s, and I looked at all these families, and I went through it all.
And it was very interesting.
And it was a journey for me, deeper and deeper in the rabbit hole.
But where I am now, which I've just talked about, you can break it down to that level.
Because what happens is, and I agree with you, more than 13.
What happens is people can look at the situation and it can be overwhelming to them because it seems so complex.
One of the ways I've always worked, maybe because I left school at 15 from Crown Hill Secondary Modern to play football.
I never took an exam. Thank you, God.
I'm looking for the simple You know, people think that understanding complexity is like genius.
Well, on one level that may be.
But the real genius for me is seeing the simple and apparently complex because complex is covering up the simple.
And, you know, you can you can go in and I have in the books and it's very interesting and it's important information to get out.
But if you break it down and break it down and break it down, you go beyond the families, you go beyond all of it, and all the levels of form, and you're left with this state of consciousness that wants to control, wants to do all the things that's going on now, and a state of consciousness doesn't want that.
And that's what it breaks down to.
And if people get attached to this, well, we're going to carry on as we are.
If people break away from this to this, then we're going to bring it down.
And so that's the level I'm really working on now, rather than Going in all to the great detail about family bloodlines, which I did a long time ago.
And like I said, it was very important, but you can break it down to a much more simple level because all those families are simply Wotiko incarnate.
Wotiko is where it's all coming from.
Yeah, no, I'll pass you over to Steve from Awaken Mind.
But yeah, the family bloodlines is a very fascinating topic, and I know you've well documented it throughout all your books.
Yeah, of course.
It's very important. Yeah, the question is, why the bloodlines?
Why do these people interbreed so obsessively?
Why have they always done that?
Even when most of the royal families disappeared, they went underground and the dark suit families, which are the royal aristocratic families of the four, they still incessantly interbreed.
It's because there is a certain information field which they want to retain.
And it's an information field that basically processes information in a particular way.
It has no empathy.
It has no compassion.
And this cult, if you like, doesn't want that information field diluted Because you start interbreeding with people who are not of that information field, well, that information field starts to get diluted and it starts to become open to other things.
It starts processing information in a different way and basically the cult starts to fall apart because it's based on a network of psychopaths.
And that, again, is Watiko.
Watiko is what we call psychopaths.
That's where it comes from. Psychopaths have no empathy.
They have no compassion.
They get off on the suffering of others.
They get off on having power over others because they're pathetic.
And this is Watiko.
This is psychopaths.
You know, I keep calling people at Gates.
I say they're super psychopaths because they're Watiko.
And so it's...
It kind of starts to explain these things.
And so the vehicles that are expressing the T-Cult, which we call the bloodlines, they need to process information in a certain way.
Because if they don't, then...
Well, they might not go on processing and becoming vehicles for Watico, because they might change the way they see everything.
So they have to fiercely hold this information field, this empathy-deleted information field.
And to do that, they have to just make sure that it's fiercely...
In-house, in terms of all the procreation.
We come back to what I said earlier about the Rothschilds and how these sperm banks exist.
This is to hold this information field, make sure it's not diluted.
Yeah, no, Steve, I let you in with a question.
Yeah, so today is sort of an inauspicious day because it's May Day and it's the 245th anniversary of Adam Weishaupt and the start of the New World Order, you could say.
Yeah. So, I mean, given that, can you sort of say how 245 years ago a decision was made to, you know, normalize sex with children, divide and rule, they use the same playbook, infiltrate society, you know, and We're sort of in late stages of that perhaps right now with what's going on with the injection and the UN and this whole globalization.
And it's not something that's new.
It's something that's been planned.
And we kind of were talking how they're not very clever.
In a way, they just use the same Helgelian dialect, divide and rule, order out of chaos, and they just sort of repeat the same playbook.
And if you look, it isn't very clever, because they just do the same thing, and they expect everyone just to accept 2 plus 2 equals 5.
But they're so obvious with it now.
We know people that weren't going to wake up are waking up.
But my point is, what's important is to call bullshit and just to see it.
But can you, because it is 245 years ago, say how what happened then is very relevant to what's happened Oh, yes, it absolutely is.
And first of all, they're not that bright.
I've said many times the dynamic between the cult and humanity is in the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
They have to keep humans blind so with their one eye, their all seeing eye, they can control by benefit of having a level of knowledge that the public doesn't have.
But if humanity, as humanity, wakes up to its true power and starts connecting into levels of awareness where the answers lie, where the insight lies, where knowledge lies, etc., then the dynamic will change.
The one-eyed man is no match for the two-eyed, third-eyed human.
And that's why they have to keep humanity asleep so that their one eye can prevail.
So they're not very bright.
I mean, Bill Gates, I mean, you know, dear me, not the brightest man I've ever seen in my life.
Have you seen Fauci?
Have you seen Witte and all these people?
Crikey! So they're not bright and they're not omnipotent.
They just want us to believe they are.
I use the phrase little boys in short trousers.
They're terrified.
You see, people don't censor to the scale that they do Because they're secure people.
They do it because they're not secure.
They're incredibly insecure.
Because they know that once enough of humanity wake up, it's over.
It's over for them.
They're terrified of that.
And so to them...
A kid in his back bedroom putting out a few conspiracy videos is a lethal danger.
So we've got to censor him.
Secure people don't want to censor others.
I mean, even the people that hurl abuse at me, I don't want to censor him.
It goes in one ear and out the other.
But I don't want to censor him.
Because once you start to say or start to censor Before the point of delivery, then you are creating a situation in which some authority is deciding what people can see and can't see.
And I don't want to censor anybody.
I want everyone's opinion and then we'll have a debate about it.
And see where we go.
I certainly don't want to censor anybody, and I don't want to censor anyone who's abusive to me, who's of no interest to me.
And it would be hypocritical if I did.
So we just need to be at peace with everyone having an opinion and call the police.
Some people are going to have different opinions to what we have.
Now that's security.
Someone who's secure in what they believe is quite happy for other people to have different beliefs because they're secure in their own and they're quite confident that they can support where they stand.
People who are completely insecure, terrified, who know they can't support their narrative and that it would never stand up to debate, they're the ones that do the censoring.
So with all this censorship that's going on, they're actually telling us that they don't have power.
Otherwise they won't worry about people like me.
So That's very, very important that people realise that.
They don't fall into this idea of, oh, they're so powerful, what chance we've got.
Well, as much chance people want to take is the answer to that.
Now, in terms of Whitehall, it's a very interesting story.
You You go back, like I said, you can go back to Babylon, you can go back to Sumer and you go back to other ancient societies and much longer further back than that, I'm sure.
And you can follow this story where this cult started out in different areas of the world and then eventually it kind of fused into a global cult.
And one of the groupings that came to prominence, not least now, in this cult started with a man called Sabbatai Zebi, who claimed to be the Jewish Messiah.
And this is in the 17th century.
And he was operating in the old Ottoman Empire, the Islamic Ottoman Empire.
And he got a big, big following of people who believed he was the Jewish Messiah.
And eventually the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire gave him a choice that he either basically proved that he was or Or converted to Islam or there was going to be serious trouble.
So he converted to Islam and a lot of his followers kind of were disillusioned, but a lot of them stayed with him.
And they started basically a cult which became known as Sabbateans and Sabbateanism.
And they They operated outwardly as if they were following the Islamic religion, but they weren't.
They were following their own. And that religion was not Judaism.
It was an inversion of Judaism.
It was basically a death cult.
All the things you've described, all the abuse of children, all this stuff, it was all going on in the Sabbatean cult.
And they became known as the Donma Which means to turn, because they turned to Islam, but they hadn't turned at all.
And this Sabbateanism, again, it's interesting.
I was talking earlier about Wutiko, which inverts everything.
It's an inversion of life, so it inverts everything.
And they inverted everything that...
Happened in Judaism. So if it was a feast day or a fast day in Judaism, it would be a feast day in Sabbateanism and so on.
So this went on and eventually he died.
And the following century, along came a guy called Jacob Frank.
Now, Jacob Frank claimed that he was the reincarnation of Sabbatai Zebi and also of the biblical patriarch Jacob.
And he continued the Sabbatean cult.
Some people call it Sabbatean Frankism after that.
And he took it into new depths of depravity.
And what this Sabbatean cult And still today, its modus operandi was infiltrating societies, cultures, religions, and posing as promoters and supporters of that religion, culture, whatever, race, and manipulating themselves into positions of power, but they were not.
Promoting what they appear to be promoting.
They were promoting Sabbateanism.
And one of the manifestations of Sabbateans, the Sabbatean cult, is the Saudi royal family.
They go back through to Sabbateans.
And the people that run Israel today, the network that runs Israel, they're Sabbateans.
That's why the Rothschilds, who were Sabbateans, not Jewish, actually had such a massive, massive fundamental impact on the establishment of Israel.
um the uh jacob frank also moved in on the um the roman church the roman catholic church and uh sabbatians took over the the uh the vatican and and and the sabbatians are expressions of wateco so they act the same and uh um they um They've gathered more and more power.
I tell the story in a book called The Trigger, which I'll tell this story in detail, how after the establishment of Israel in 1948, and before that actually, but certainly then, they moved in on America and they basically took over the institutions of America.
Things like the CIA and the Pentagon, the Sabbateans run them.
It's a death cult.
And it's all these things, all these child abuse, child sacrifice, all these things.
What do you call it? Epstein.
Jeffrey Epstein. He was a Sabbatean.
He was running a Sabbatean operation in classic Sabbatean style.
So the story eventually, if we go back, comes to this point you were talking about with Weishaupt, where Jacob Frank was jailed for a time.
And then when he came out, he headed for Frankfurt.
And he made an association, a very good financial association, among other things, with Mayor Amistad Rothschild.
And it was Jacob Frank, Mayor Amistad Rothschild and Adam Beissel, who Who created the Bavarian Illuminati, which then became known as the Illuminati.
And the book that is the focus, almost like the Bible of Sabbateanism, is called the Zohar, which is part of the whole...
Jewish mystical religion.
And Zohar means radiance or illumination, you're illuminated.
And Illuminati seems to be related to this whole theme of the Zohar, which is part of these books of the Kabbalah, the Jewish mystical belief system.
So they then created this Sabateer Network, which became known as the Illuminati, and they took it forward, not least by focusing on control of money, control of finance.
And so the Rothschilds Basically took over Europe and then eventually the world by controlling finance.
And it's all part of this Sabbatean cult.
And when people say, you know, that it's all about money, well...
Only to a point.
It's about control.
And so the idea is that if you create a society in which money dictates choice, then you control the choice of the people by controlling their access to money, which in our society overwhelmingly dictates choice.
And if you look at what freedom is, freedom is the ability to make choices.
And if you can suppress the number of choices that people can make, you are suppressing their freedom.
I mean, you look at the last year with the COVID nonsense, and you've had choices severely suppressed.
And what has that meant?
Freedom severely suppressed.
Controlled choice by controlling money, and that's why they hoard it among themselves, and we've got this concept now of the 1%.
So there's some interesting things about that too.
On another level, Adam Weishaupt basically had an education as a Jesuit.
I think he became a Protestant Christian later as well.
And, you know, that's classic.
You know, there's a guy called, he's left us now, unfortunately, called Rabbi Marvin Antelman, who wrote two books called To Eliminate the Opiate, in which the books were all about exposing Sabbateanism and how it's taken over Jewish society.
Jewish people don't know because they think the people who are ruling them are kind of Jewish.
They're not. They're Sabbateans.
And he told the story in one of those books of Karl Marx, which created, of course, Marxism.
And Karl Marx was supposedly Jewish, but he wasn't.
He was a Sabbatean.
And Antleman tells the story about how he was just a front man, and other people wrote the words, and he just fronted them up.
And it's interesting now that As we come through this cycle to present day, that the basic structure of society that they want is very close to what we would call Marxism.
And that's what the woke mentality is about.
It's about demanding Marxism.
But, of course, Marxism is for the people.
It's not for the elite.
And that's why you have The co-founder of Black Lives Matter, who claims to be a trained Marxist, just exposed for having four houses worth $3.2 million.
Marxism is for the people.
And again, people think, well, Marxism, well, why would the financial elite want Marxism?
Because Marxism is just a method For controlling the masses.
You know, anyone think that in Stalin's Russia that he lived the same lifestyle as everyone else?
Of course not. Anyone think that Chinese leadership does?
No. Marxism is to keep the masses in line, whereas the woke mentality, which is completely bewildered, believes it's about equality.
It's not. It's about control by the few.
Yeah. And they always say, you know, they make whoever they are the enemy.
They make Marxists the enemy, communists the enemy, and they are Marxists and communists.
Because who's going to think you're a communist or a Marxist if you're pointing fingers at them?
You know, it's all the inversion.
It's all the same thing. I have so many questions, but we're running late.
If we go longer, maybe I'll get another chance.
I'm going to pass you to Hartman. Thank you so much, David, for being here.
For me, it's a real honor to have you here, because my lady and myself, we had a meditation center in 2000, and we know you since 2005.
And we were also in Immenstadt in 2011 on your presentation.
We know a lot of stuff, what you told us.
And the funny thing is, what I really remember is the one great picture of the Scottish boy with the skirt sitting next to the Queen.
And I want to know whether you still use this picture right now because this is something so brilliant.
Yeah, that was funny. Put it on the screen sometime.
I'm sure you still can find it.
But that's an interesting point, really, because one of the things we've got to do, we've got to bloody laugh.
You know, because laughter, you can't feel fear when you're laughing.
And I'll tell you something about this cult mentality, this boutique cult mentality.
Because of its insecurity, it has to be taken seriously.
It wants you in awe of it.
It wants you in fear of it.
And when you laugh in its face, it doesn't know what to do.
Because, you know, I went through enormous ridicule, of course, over decades, but it never affected my self-respect.
Because, you know, I wasn't insecure like Watico.
So you can ridicule me, but I'm not going to go under.
But when you're insecure, and we're talking about a serious level of insecurity in terms of this consciousness, then when people laugh, And don't take you seriously.
It absolutely disarms you.
So it's very important on many levels that we laugh because the worst thing The bottom line is we are a point of attention within all that is, has been and ever can be, having a brief experience called human.
And we are on an eternal journey.
We're an eternal experience exploring forever, forever.
So that's the bottom line.
That's as bad as it gets.
We need to be joyous about that and not get pulled into these illusions that are simply there to pull us into low-frequency states.
Laughter is a wonderful thing.
Yeah, because this came directly to my mind when I saw this again, and this was a really cool picture.
And my question is, because you made such, let's say, metamorphosis in the last 30 years, and now we are really in a, let's say, we are in a real dangerous situation.
For example, I was in a village Ten kilometers away, then they have the beautiful buses, stay healthy.
One door you go in, you went in and then the other side you went out and then you are vaccinated.
And I said to myself, brilliant, we don't need any concentration camps in Germany because the gas chambers are standing in the villages.
And the situation is, I really compare it nearly to a concentration camp.
Of course, it's not in this way at the moment.
So we don't have incarnation or what's the word?
I don't know where you run buddies.
They are working on these things, but at the moment it's not.
But we have the feeling of fear like it is.
And to stay out of this fear, do you have an advice for the people to How they can, because you made such a transformation, how can they stay in their, let's say, higher self or in their self so that they don't get attacked by these things?
Well, just very quickly, going on from what I've just been talking about a few minutes ago.
I've just finished another book, actually.
It's just gone into production. And it's very much about the here and now.
Different levels of what's happening.
And while I was writing it, I was in contact with friends of mine in Israel, and I was looking at other people in Israel, like lawyers and stuff, and what they were saying.
And they were starting to describe what is happening in Israel to Jewish people to the run-up to Nazi Germany.
And you'd think, Why would the people running Israel be treating, and this was the group that wouldn't be vaccinated, won't be vaccinated, why would they treat them in that way?
Of all countries where you have, they have deck chairs on the beach that says, vaccinated only.
It's apartheid.
But then, The Sabbateans were behind the Nazis.
And the Sabbateans are running Israel.
So suddenly you realize why they are treating the Jewish people today as they treated people in Germany.
Because you have to get away from the Jewish thing.
It's not Jewish. It's Sabbatean.
It's a death cult. And it's a very now influential aspect of this global cult.
Very influential indeed.
Not least because the Rothschilds are Sabbateans.
But in terms of how we respond to this, well, you know, well, there's a number of things.
First of all, We've got to, unless we really want to get pulled into this, we've got to start redefining the nature of the I. Because if you're self-identifying with the labels of a human life and you're seeing yourself in those limited terms, the three score years and ten, then this is going to get very, very challenging, say the least.
It's going to get very frightening.
But if you see yourself as consciousness having an experience, the labels are your experiences.
They're not you in terms of the eternal I. That is consciousness.
And whatever happens in this reality, we will continue our journey of consciousness.
And if you can see that, this is just a brief experience.
Rather than all experience and all existence.
It's brief experience. And if you can come from that point of view, then you can look at it in a different way and it doesn't seem so overwhelming.
And when you open that, that doesn't have fear.
Because that knows, for a start, what I've just said, that we are eternal expressions of consciousness, and therefore this is just a brief experience.
And once you let go of fear, you let go also of considering consequences for doing what you know to be right.
Because if ever there was a time When we need to do what we know to be right, it's now.
But if you consider consequences, then your head, certainly your emotion, will give you a long list of reasons not to do what you know to be right.
And so you'll say, well, I'll do something, but I'll do it next week or I'll do it next month.
And I tell you what, if it comes to this, then I'll do something.
And it comes to it and you don't.
And we just go on down the road to greater and greater dystopia.
We're at a point now where we just have to stand up and say, no, not doing it.
And to do that, that has to be open.
Because if that's not open, then you're going to be terrorized into conformity.
This doesn't consider consequences.
Because to consider consequences is to consider not doing what you know to be right.
And this would never do that.
This would, this won't.
And so what do I need to do to make a difference?
Well, first of all, bottom line, you must not concede to fascism.
You must not do the bidding of fascism.
Well, whatever the consequences are, I'm not doing the bidding of fascism.
Because once you appease it, by just going along with it a bit,
then you'll appease it a bit more.
Because you can't appease fascism, you can't appease tyranny,
because it always wants more no matter what you give it.
So you'll say, okay, I'll just do this bit, I'll just do this bit.
But then it wants more and it wants more, and eventually it's got everything.
And that's where we're going.
We're going down a road, if we go on in this way, where they're going to strip humanity of everything,
not just possessions, not just the ability to make choices,
but strip them of the most basic self-respect.
And...
And self-respect Is the key, because it's self-respect that's brought down every tyranny in history.
If you have self-respect, like, for instance, I'm told that if I go in certain places, I have to wear a mask.
Well, sorry, that is stripping me of self-respect.
A, because I know it's a nonsense anyway, and I know why it's happening, so I'm not doing it.
No, I'm not doing it. And consequences?
Well, the consequences are to take care of themselves, but I'm not doing it.
And, oh, you've got to do this, you've got to do that, you've got to do this.
I'm not doing it. I'm not doing that.
I've not done any of it. I won't do any of it.
Because I will not concede my self-respect to this tyranny.
I won't do it. I'd rather leave.
I'd rather leave. I'm not going to because there are other forces at work here.
But I would rather do that than concede my self-respect.
Because once self-respect's gone, all that's left is submission.
It's your self-respect that stops you submitting.
And, you know, when they have anal swabs in China for a COVID test, that's nothing to do with COVID. Of course it's not.
It's to do with stripping people of their self-respect.
This is what they're doing.
So when people say, oh, the things they're telling us and the contradictions and stuff, and this is stupid, and that makes no sense, and, oh, they're, you know, what are they doing?
They want us to see the contradictions.
They want us to see the nonsense that it makes no sense.
Because if you're...
Told to do something or asked to do something.
And you look at it and you say, okay, let's look at the evidence.
Why do you want me to do this?
And you look at it and you say, well, actually, I can see that now.
I can see why you want me to do this.
So, yeah, I'm going to do it because that makes sense.
My self-respect is making that decision.
But if you can see that it's nonsense and full of contradictions, but you still do it, Then your self-respect has been conceded and only submission remains.
So I can only talk about myself.
It's not for me to tell other people what to do.
But I will not concede my self-respect to this.
I will not do any of it.
And I'll tell you what kind of tends to happen.
Because we are interacting with this field.
And this field is all possibility.
And the more you expand to greater levels of frequency within this field, the more possibility you're accessing.
That's why when people start to expand and what we call awaken, they find amazing synchronicity starts to appear in their life and coincidences and things just happen and what have you.
Why? When it wasn't happening when you were here, it's because you're now expanding into greater ways of consciousness or possibility and therefore you're able to manifest more possibility.
And when you Concede to a state of fear, then that's, by its very nature, a very small, dense bubble of perception, of frequency, and therefore interaction with all possibility, and therefore you're going to manifest very limited possibility.
You know, we see the dynamic of I fear to do it so I don't do it.
But on another level, it's I fear to do it so I can only access this very narrow band of potential possibility.
And when you let go of fear, then you are accessing a much greater swathe of possibility which you can manifest.
And the reason I'm saying all that is Is that when you stand for what you believe in and you don't concede your self-respect, it's amazing how you think that if I do this, that's going to happen.
But often it doesn't.
So I think one of the things is that people think, well, if I do this, I'll lose my job.
Okay, that might be the case.
Don't have the vaccine, fake vaccine, don't wear a mask.
But is that job the only possibility in your life?
Is it the only thing that you could manifest?
Is it indeed something that's making you happy and joyful and fulfilled?
Because if you look back in my life, in 1990, I, well, 1989, 1990, I was a television presenter with the BBC. I was doing the, hello, good evening, and welcome, and presenting the sport, and I'm presenting some new stuff as well.
And I would have been saying, oh, he's a successful bloke, he's on the telly.
And then I went through, because of what happened, I went through enormous ridicule.
All that disappeared.
Bridges burned in every direction.
You couldn't be in my life without seeing bridges burning into the distance.
And you think, well, that's that.
That's that. He's finished.
But what emerged were other possibilities.
And other directions.
And would I swap my life over the last 30 years for the life before?
Not a chance. So it's worth thinking that just because if I do what I know to be right, you know, this is going to happen.
Well, maybe it will, maybe it won't.
Probably what in terms of the vaccine and the mask, the way we're going with the vaccine passports.
But That's not the only possibility.
If you open, you know, we're talking all possibility.
Everything becomes possible once you open to it.
And so, you know, I've used a phrase over the years, life so often gives you your greatest gift brilliantly disguised as your worst nightmare.
So many things that happen, you think that's my worst nightmare.
And then you look back and you think, well, if that hadn't happened, I wouldn't be doing this.
And oh, my God, I'm glad I'm doing this.
So, let's operate within all possibility and not just in, well, I've got this job and that's the only possibility and if I don't do what I know to be right or if I do what I know to be right, I'm going to lose this job.
You know, the other possibilities will emerge so long as you are open to them and you let go of the fear.
Because fear freezes you and limits your possibility.
And I think it's, you know, I'm seeing this now.
I don't know about you, but we are definitely, clearly, moving into a situation of two societies.
And what are those societies?
They're based on different states of consciousness.
Kind of going full circle here.
This society will continue in its controlled state.
And this society will go on seeking a return to normality.
And in it seeking that return, it opens itself to the carrot in front of the donkey.
You've seen what's been happening in the last year?
Just do this and we'll return to normal.
Okay, just do this. Just wear a mask.
Just do this. We're going to flatten the curtain.
We're going to have the vaccine and then it's all going to go back to normal.
Oh, you've got the vaccine. Oh, no, we can't go back to normal.
And all this stuff. It's just the carrot and the stick.
And the carrot is going back to normal.
So people kind of go, oh yeah, I've got to do this to go back to normal.
Oh yeah, if I have this vaccine that's going to transform my genetics, then I'll be able to go down the pub.
Go back to normal. And if you go on seeking that, then you're open to this manipulation.
But if you say, well hold on, for me to go back to this normal, I'm going to have to submit my self-respect.
I'm going to have to submit to all these things that I know not only are wrong for me, are bad for me, but I know they're systematically there to have that effect.
So I'm not going to seek that anymore.
I'm not going to pursue normality as it was because it ain't going to happen.
So So what do I do?
Well, is that the only frickin' normal?
Is that the only way to live that we've been living?
Or is there another way?
And so what I'm seeing, and it's happening on the Isle of Wight, quite a significant number of people, I'm sure it's happening in lots of other places, is people who are in this awakening state are saying, okay, that's gone now.
And maybe it's good that it's gone in the sense that I would have played out the rest of my life in that world otherwise.
But now, there's a blank sheet of paper.
What can we do?
What I'm seeing is more and more people who are awakening are getting together.
They're coming together in mutual support, in a way that's saying, okay, that's gone.
Let's build something else.
And what I'm seeing among these people are smiles on their face.
I'm seeing hugs.
I'm seeing joy. You know, there's a group on the Isle of Wight where, you know, anyone can join it.
It's about, you know, awakening to the COVID stuff, but beyond that, and you've got people who, and this is something that's been happening all over the place, of course, you've got someone in a family Who is awake or awakening.
And the rest of the family is solid gold asleep.
So the rest of the family are over here.
They're chasing the carrot then.
Back to normal that's never going to be normal because it's not meant to be.
And they're isolated and in quite a state.
And then they join the group.
And now they've got a new family.
That's awake to things they're awake to.
And you see, you know, the joy, the relief.
And, you know, the march.
Look at the number of people in that march in London last week.
I mean, look at those numbers.
And we can't create something different.
And interact in another way, in our own way of doing things?
Yes, we can. With mutual support for each other, rather than, you know, you being isolated and in a situation where you think you're powerless.
But, my God, you know, there are so many people out there.
You wouldn't know it by watching the mainstream media.
You wouldn't even know there'd been a march of hundreds of thousands of people in London a week ago if you watched the mainstream media.
But there are an enormous number of people now that are awake.
Still enormous that aren't, but enormous number that are.
And we don't know about lots of them because they're in those families on their own, but being ridiculed and often abused because of their views.
Well, let's get together.
Let's get together. Let's build something different instead of chasing a world that's gone.
Brilliant. I see it in the same way.
It's a battle between all possibilities and only functioning.
And the interesting thing is, because I want to come back to the Freemasons and the Jesuits, we have the Black Pope, and communism and national socialism are two sides from the same coin.
And the interesting thing is that the National Socialism was destroyed in Germany and the Communism has risen up in the Soviet Union.
And the Soviet Union brought by their propaganda their Communist thinking to the West.
So, for example, Yuri Betzmenov describes this very well by demoralization, destabilization, crisis, and normalization.
And we live all in a destabilized and demoralized society, especially if you went to the university.
The brain is completely brainwashed.
And this is the reason why they want to have a Marxist state right now here, because, well, it's...
The secret societies are run also by the chemical industry and pharmaceutical industry, military complex.
All these things are based, let's say, in the 19th century.
And the king is still the Vatican.
And now my question is, if the Vatican established the Freemasons, or let's say the Black Pope, and there is one book from John Eric Phelps, who wrote The Vatican Assassins, and in this book he wrote that the Orthodox Church is the enemy of the Vatican.
How does the Orthodox Church, and also Putin, who said, if you don't miss the Soviet Union, you don't have a heart, if you want to have it back, you don't have a mind.
How does the Soviet Russia fit in this field?
Well, in terms of the Russian Revolution, we come back to Sabbateans.
Yes. They were behind the Russian Revolution.
Yes. And when I wrote a book in the 90s called And the Church Will Set You Free, I talked about the Russian Revolution and how it came about, and I immediately got called anti-Semitic.
Because what I was pointing out is the unbelievable, I mean, it is staggering, number of Jewish people that were involved in the Russian Revolution.
I mean, just staggering, like 60% of this and 70% of that.
And with Trotsky and all the rest of it.
But they were Sabbateans.
And if you look at the documents, the original documents of the early years of the Russian Revolution, it's all there confirming what I've just said.
And Churchill, actually Winston Churchill, wrote a whole article about the fact that The Russian Revolution had been created by secular Jews, but they were Sabbateans.
They weren't actually Jews.
So with the Soviet Union, you're looking at this same network, and it operates in different ways and expresses itself differently.
But the principal foundation is just the same.
We have this ludicrous idea that Stalin was of the left and Hitler was of the right.
These are just almost meaningless terms.
I mean, you ask people in Nazi Germany if they would rather be in Soviet Russia and vice versa, and they probably say, what's the difference?
It's a tyranny. A vicious, brutal tyranny.
And this is how this cult works.
Wherever it goes through history, what follows is empires and tyranny and control.
Because part of the history was the cult coming out of Babylon and And Sumer, then Babylon, is Rome, the Roman Empire.
So all these tags and all these names are actually just the same basic tactic.
And you look at China today, what's happened with China and why it's so relevant to the To the Covid hopes and why it came out of China is because China, the Mao revolution, was a cult revolution.
Because what they were doing was creating a closed society in which they could incubate the control system they wanted to play out across the world.
So in the West, Well, until 2020, they still had to play some kind of lip service to the fact that it was a free world.
That joke, yes, but they had to at least go along with it.
Whereas in China, they had no such limitations.
What the government said happened.
And so they were able to move this control system, this control structure, not least based on technology, very, very fast.
And they've incubated it and they perfected it.
And then suddenly, because of a hoax coming out of China, what has happened since?
Their system is being played out across the world.
Exactly. It was planned from the start.
So all the time, every day, we're seeing the control system in China being introduced in country after country after country, not least the technological version of it.
The social credit system Whereby you get credits if you do what the authority wants and you get them taken away if you don't.
And this comes down to the fine detail of your life, including even your browsing history.
And there are consequences if you lose enough credits.
Like there's millions, tens of millions of Chinese who have been banned from flying, even banned from trains because their social credit score has fallen so low because they haven't done what the government wants.
And this is all part of this passport, this COVID passport crap, is all a stepping stone, a totalitarian tiptoe to the global social credit system.
So whether it's the Chinese system or the Russian system or the Nazi Germany system, they're all different expressions of the same tyranny.
And I want to come back to the psychopath again, because since COVID, let's say, I thought a lot about the movie Purge, because it shows a society in 2023 full of psychopaths.
And the situation concerning the psychopath is that the psychopath has no heart connection.
And with the injection, they are going to reduce our magnetic field system in that way that we cannot have a heart or that we shall not have a heart connection anymore.
So the situation is, on the one hand, this is their target.
But on the other hand, they thought that this target, they have time to reach it until 20, 2045.
And now they want to do it in five years or three years because I think that the consciousness on this planet among the human beings has arisen so much that they have to move on very quickly.
What do you think about that?
Well, I do think...
I've used the analogy before of, you know, an athletics race, and you stay among the pack in like a 5,000-meter race, and they try to stay in the pack, and by that I mean stay unseen and manipulate from the shadows.
But eventually, you know...
In an athletics race, someone breaks for home, and they've broken for home.
And we can see them now.
And if they don't get to the line, if you watch an athletics race, once someone's broken from the pack, if they get caught before the line, they usually don't win.
They usually don't come back from it.
And they've broken from the pack.
We can see them, and they have to get to that line before enough people have woken up To the game.
To stop them.
To catch them. And so they are in a...
I mean, we are talking about a deeply, deeply insecure state of consciousness.
This is why they prepare in such detail over such a long period of time because they are terrified of states of flux.
They're terrified of things where the outcome is uncallable.
They have to control everything.
I use the analogy of a football match.
If they were involved in a football match, they'd have to control both sides and the referee.
So that they knew the score before the game started, because otherwise they'd feel very insecure, not knowing what the outcome possibly could be.
And so they're in a very, for them, a very frightening situation too, because they know that they're not there yet.
And if they don't get there very fast, then the very fact of putting themselves on public display and the things that they're doing now, Is awakening more and more people.
And of course, once you break out of the bubble a little bit, like what the bloody hell is going on?
This is not right. Who's running this?
What's happening? Then suddenly the bubbles burst and you start to become aware of other things.
I've seen so many people go through that process in the last year, where, you know, a year later, they're awake to so much when a year before they were like that.
And they know that. They know that in playing their hand, they're going to wake a lot of people up by doing it.
So they are trying to get to that line as fast as possible.
And in doing so, they have to put themselves even more on public display.
I mean, what level of consciousness or brain cell activity Does it take not to see that people like Klaus Schwab is a con man who's lying to us at every turn and has a very, very sinister agenda for the human race?
I mean, he's got it kind of stamped on his forehead.
You know, I'm a Nazi.
You know, what?
So... This is a time of danger, yes, but it's a time of great opportunity.
And, you know, like I said before, I used the analogy a few minutes ago of if this hadn't have happened, then people who were now awakening would have probably continued their life to the end in the way they were before.
And humanity as a whole would have Just basically trotted along.
Yeah, governments lie and politicians lie.
Their world would be controlled.
Their lives would be controlled. But they wouldn't be too aware of it, even though, you know, the outcome was that they were controlled and their choice was being limited.
And so they go on. And this this cult would have gone on controlling events, but it would have it would have controlled it from the pack.
Well, That meant that they could continue doing that indefinitely.
Of course, they haven't put themselves on public display.
How would anyone know really what's going on?
But now they have.
And it's a wonderful opportunity.
A danger, yes, but a wonderful opportunity after all the...
And this goes back so long.
After these thousands of years of this cult gathering more and more power over the human family, We now have the opportunity to kick its arse out of its It's impacting its manipulation on human society.
We have the opportunity now for humans to take another road, to have the self-realization of our true power, the self-realization that conceding self-respect is conceding your life and your power to impact upon your life.
We should not be acquiescent people, just allowing a few people to tell us what to do, which basically humanity has throughout known human history.
We have a chance now to break that cycle and for humanity to come into its power.
So there are great opportunities here as well as great dangers.
Brilliant. Thank you so much.
It was a real pleasure. I pass to Grace.
Thank you. Hi, David.
First, I'd like to please thank you and please extend greetings also to Gemma and to Garrett for making this precious opportunity possible.
It may just be a moment, but we would surely remember this.
And because at this moment we have like Close to a thousand viewers and they have been appreciating you.
I've been following their comments in the platform.
They say thank you to you.
Thank you to Sasha. And they have so many comments, less questions, because they're exchanging all their comments and information among them.
So we are with really awakened and a few awakening audience.
And that's because you've been there for most of these people and they acknowledge that.
So thank you.
And one thing, I don't have a question, but I just want to share that Even if I did have questions, but as I listen, so I think I want to just inspire others that you keep listening, you keep paying attention to words, to images, and to just what's being observant, because we're all observant, then all the questions in our hearts will be answered.
And so that's what I wanted to share and to our audience, truly thank you and do your work with whatever you need to do.
There's one question from the audience that maybe you could just answer please.
Is it a 4D reality entity, parasitic type of entity that need us to be in fear so that they could feed off on that fear?
Well, exactly that.
I mean, this book I've just finished, it's called Perceptions of a Renegade Mind, has gone into this, actually.
You know, I've covered this over the years as well, that this vertical consciousness...
Obviously, it's part of the greater infinite state of awareness.
But because of its distorted frequency state, it's basically disconnected from the greater whole.
I mean, you can't disconnect completely because everything's part of everything else.
But you can disconnect from the influence.
You can disconnect from the impact.
And they're just trying to turn human beings into them because they're trying to do that to human beings.
They're trying to disconnect five sense mind from greater consciousness because that's basically the state that they're in.
And so when you disconnect from that influence, You disconnect from the sustenance of that greater whole, that energetic sustenance.
And what you need, therefore, is to find another energy source.
And so if you're going to feed off other energetic fields, i.e., in this case, humans, then you have to make sure those fields are in a...
A frequency state that you can attach to and absorb.
And this whole feeding off human energy can be seen on many levels.
I mean, in the first Matrix movie, when the Morpheus character held up the battery and said the machines have turned humans into one of these, it was actually a profound truth because those that were behind the Matrix movies had a very...
Good idea what the hell was going on.
And, you know, there was a Disney movie some years ago.
I took my son, Jamie, to it when he was a little boy called Monsters, Inc.
And it was just an animated movie.
But my goodness, did it symbolize what we're talking about?
For people who haven't come across it, there was the monsters in the monster world.
And then there was the human world.
And the monster world had no source of energy.
And so they had the power station in the monster world, but it didn't produce any power because they had no energy.
So every day the monsters would line up in the power station and all these doors would come down.
And lock in front of them.
And they'd walk through the door and they'd be in a child's bedroom.
And their job was to make the child terrified.
And when the child screamed, they'd catch the scream, catch the low vibrational energy and bring it back to the monster world to power the monster world energy system.
And I watched that, and by then I'd realised what was going on, and I thought, wow, that is so symbolic.
And the kind of lead character, the most famous character in the monster world, was, if you remember, a green image with a massive single eye.
It's the all-seeing eye.
I mean, please. So they have to feed, this wetiko has to feed off the same kind of energy that it's in, its state, so it has to make humans produce that energy.
So a war becomes an energetic banquet, for instance.
All these things becomes an energetic source of sustenance.
But there's another thing that It comes when you disconnect from the greater influence of the greater whole.
Going back to something we talked about earlier, you lose connection to possibility, possibility, creativity.
If you look at the writings of the Gnostic people, There was some texts, a treasure trove of texts, really.
It was found in an earthen jar at Nagamadi, about 75-80 miles north of Luxor in Egypt in 1945, and it was the writings of the Gnostic people.
This was the belief system that saw the world in a different way to the Roman church, etc.
And it's estimated that these texts were put in this jar about 400 AD. And it was this Gnostic mentality that ran the Great Library of Alexandria, which was destroyed in stages by the Roman Church.
And in these writings, They talk about archons.
About a fifth of the texts are about what they call archons.
And archons are in their prime form, they say, are just energy.
But they do take form in various ways, including reptilian.
They actually say that in the writings.
And so when you You read, I've got all the books there in detail of what's in these texts.
When you read what they say, they are describing the archons in exactly the same way that the Native Americans describe Wotiko.
The archons of Wotiko are the same thing.
And they talk in these writings about the fact that the archons feed off human energy.
Yes, exactly.
But also that they don't have creativity.
They don't have creative imagination, if you like, in the same way that humans do.
And if you look at the Archon Wetiko cult and how it works, it doesn't create anything.
It feeds off human creativity.
What... What we talked about earlier was the banking system and the Rothschilds.
What does the banking system do?
It doesn't create anything. In fact, it doesn't create money.
It creates money out of nothing on a screen called credit.
And then through control of credit, creating money out of nothing, it feeds off human creativity.
You've got all these human creatives.
That are creating all the products, the ideas.
And through control of the money system, they control those businesses.
They control the whole thing.
And then you look at Silicon Valley.
It's not your Zuckerbergs that are the creative force.
Facebook, it's humans.
It's not the Bren and Page or the creative force at Google.
It's humans.
And look at what Facebook do.
They claim joint copyright for anything that's posted on Facebook.
That's feeding off the creativity of humans.
Everywhere you look, they're feeding off human creativity.
And what they've manipulated humans to do is build our own prison.
And the human psyche has been developed to develop an intellect that can build its own prism without developing the wisdom to see that that's what it's doing.
And so we have been brought through On an intellectual level to the point where we can build our own prison, our own technological prison.
And most of the people who are imposing and developing and putting in place this smart grid of human control They'll be humans.
They'll be human consciousness.
And the cult is just overseeing it and orchestrating it.
But it's the creative force of humans that's being used to control humans.
Thank you, David.
I know that. Thank you.
And I'm sure in the future I'll be seeing you.
And so I'll pass it on to Roy.
Okay. Okay.
Thank you. Thank you, David.
It's been a real pleasure listening to you.
So, for those that are going to be listening to the audio, it's davidike.com.
When can we expect to see this book?
We're all looking forward to seeing it.
Well, as fast as possible.
You know, because...
It was 1994 when publishers saw the manuscript of a book called And the Truth To Set You Free, and I think they're still running.
Certainly their horizon was full of dust at the time.
So if I was going to publish books, I had to publish them myself.
And so that's a wonderful thing.
And again, you know what I said earlier?
I wrote a book called The Robots Rebellion.
This was in 1993. And then I followed that up with And the Truth Shall Set You Free.
That's the one where they all ran.
I mean, Robots Rebellion was on the outer limit of their capacity to...
You know, I mean, they were cancelling the laxative order then.
But then when the next one came along, that was it.
And what you think is, I remember it happening.
I thought, oh, my God.
What am I going to do now?
Nobody will publish me books.
And yet, what seemed a nightmare situation led to me creating a publishing operation myself.
And suddenly, I'm in dreamland.
Because I've not got to get the content through an editor and through a lawyer, and you know a media lawyer, because their reply to everything is no, because they're always covering their back.
Oh, you know, can we put this in?
Oh, no, no, no, no.
So, you know, it's a frustrating thing.
I remember being in journalism and following all that stuff.
But now, from 1994, Because of something that appeared to go wrong, it led to a situation where I write the books and then it goes to an editor.
And the editor is me.
So as long as I can justify it, it goes in.
Whereas if I was writing for a publisher, no way.
I mean, crikey, my books would never have got published otherwise.
So what it means also is that if you go with a manuscript to a publisher, and even if they want to publish it, they're saying, oh yeah, we'll put it in our list for 2022.
But because we run our own operation, the moment the book's finished, which was like a few days ago, it's straight into production and it's out as fast as possible.
So before this summer's out, it will be out.
What's the name of it again?
Perceptions of a Renegade Night.
Excellent. Brilliant.
Listen, David, it's been fantastic.
We all appreciate what you're doing around the world.
You're after waking up millions.
Keep doing what you're doing. Keep the fight going.
And everybody can find you on davidike.com.
You'll find the rest of us on freedombroadcasters.com.
Until next week, take care.
Thank you, David. Cheers.
Thank you, Dave, so much. Thank you very much.
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