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April 28, 2021 - David Icke
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♪♪♪ Welcome back to Beyond Classified.
Today's guest needs little introduction.
I want to welcome back David Icke.
He is author of over 20 books, numerous DVDs, he's a researcher, and has lectured in over 20 countries around the world, speaking up for up to 10 hours to audiences.
David, welcome back.
How are you doing? I'm good, mate.
Actually, it's more than 20 now.
I've been around a long time, you know.
I'm old. Right, yeah.
I figured that might have been a little different.
Loads of different countries.
Some of them translated.
I remember once, just very quickly, I was speaking in Italy and I thought that what they would have was earphones for people for the translation.
So I walk out on the stage.
I'm about to do 10 hours.
And I realised they weren't doing that.
What they were doing was having the translators speak over the theatre in Italian while I'm speaking in English.
So as I got to the end of a sentence in English, I was hearing it back in Italian at the start of the sentence.
And this went on for 10 hours.
So I will never forget that day in my life.
I tell you. Yeah, man, I bet you have some amazing stories when it comes to stuff like that.
Yeah, now, welcome back.
Thank you so much again for coming back on the show.
It's been a couple of years since we last spoke, and so much has happened, of course.
In the beginning of 2020, we were living in a completely different world.
By March and April, things started to take a completely dramatic turn.
With agenda after agenda rolling out alongside this pandemic.
Now it's a year later and we're living in this strange new reality where you can get yelled at and shamed for leaving your house without a mask.
You're restricted from participating in certain aspects of daily life if you're Not getting these vaccine and I'm sure soon much worse travel restrictions and, of course, distribution of these vaccine passports and an emerging social credit system, it seems. And that's just a tiny piece of what we're seeing rolling out right now.
I'd like to know, is this how you expected things to be progressing at this time, according to all these agendas that are at play?
Well, yes, because, you know, what's happened since the turn of 2020 has been prepared for decades and decades and decades.
I'm not kidding. I mean, you know, the people behind this, if I can call them that, are operating on a completely different level.
level of knowledge in a completely different timeline really in the sense of in the world of the population people you know see things a certain amount into the future not very far but this global cult as I call it this global network of secret societies semi-secret groups and And satanic groups, which has an interlocking leadership, they are working to a very different timeline with a very long projected future.
You've got the population going about their business.
And the thing about the population from the cult's point of view, they have to be denied knowledge.
They have to be denied knowledge about the nature of reality.
So they don't understand how reality works and therefore they're at the mercy of something they don't understand.
And the other thing, of course, is that they mustn't be allowed to know what the agenda for them is, where this is leading.
So what you've got is a timeline in the world of the population that thinks about the middle of next week or holiday next year, well, they used to.
And then you've got this other world, which is this network of secret societies, which at its inner core, because it's all...
Massively compartmentalized.
Only the relative few know the whole picture.
They are planning, and have been planning, decades and decades and decades ahead.
And because you've got this difference between knowledge and therefore possibility, not least technological possibility, You have had in this cult reality the knowledge of technology that was going to unfold in the future.
And so when you then look at what Aldous Huxley wrote in Brave New World in 1932, that was published, and then you see what Orwell wrote in 1948, and people I've quoted in my books from way back, insiders who were predicting where the world was going, they were able to not just describe the world that we're now in, But they were able to describe, not least Huxley, the kind of technology and chemical manipulation that we're now seeing also And if you can tap into this other world by working your backside off for 30 years,
you can at least get a massive amount of understanding of where the world's being taken.
So all along, we have been led to this moment, and this other world has done the leading.
And up to the turn of 2020, it's basically kept it under the radar.
Because, you know, don't go too early.
Don't reveal your hand too early.
So they've been preparing and preparing on so many levels we can talk about up to the start of 2020.
And then they went for it.
And, you know, I've used this analogy before of, you know, you're in the pack in, say, a 3,000-meter race, 5,000-meter race.
And then you come to the final lap or the back straight and you go for it.
You go for the line. And when you go for the line, you've got to get there because if people catch you up, they're probably going to go past you and you're not going to win the race.
And it's a similar situation that we're facing here.
Once they stepped into the room, once they revealed their hand more and more through 2020, they had to move quickly.
And it's a race of locking everything down and controlling everything.
Not least technologically, before enough people have woken up and seen what the hell's going on.
Now, we are making progress in that regard.
Nothing like as fast as I'd like to see it, but we are making progress in that way.
And that's why, you know, we're working all hours we can to try to alert people to how these dots connect and what is actually going on.
And it's not random and it's all been planned a very long time.
And you know, you have Huxley talking about the creation of a new human that doesn't procreate.
Well, that's what we're going into.
He knew about that all those decades ago.
Because it's long planned.
And what happens is you've got this level of knowledge here, which is operating in the underground bases and the secret projects, that's got technology and has had technology way back that today, as it plays out, is considered cutting edge.
But they knew about it way back because they've been preparing for this time technologically.
And so When something plays out in the public arena, like an AI, technological, smart technology that's about surveillance, about control, about getting microtrips in the body and stuff, Yeah, it comes out, oh, this is the latest thing.
But it wasn't the latest thing for the cult, because the cult's had it for a very, very long time.
That's how people have known about the technology that was coming way before it actually came out.
And the preparation has even got into the detail of preparing psychologically the people in authority and the people in law enforcement.
You know, I've been tracking this now for, again, decades, where the dynamic between law enforcement and officialdom, authority, and the public has been demonstrably changing from one of service and serving the public to one of seeing the public as the enemy and something to be subdued, something to be controlled.
And there have been There's one that started out in Britain called Common Purpose, which is now global, which do training courses for people in authority.
And they use techniques like neuro-linguistic programming and other techniques to prepare people, they call them Common Purpose graduates, to prepare them psychologically for this time.
And From the cult point of view, it's played out brilliantly because the attitude of authority and law enforcement, great chunks of it anyway, to the public since this started in 2020 has been absolutely disgraceful.
The public are now the enemy.
They're there to be subdued, they're there to be controlled, they're there to be imposed upon.
So all these different elements have been prepared for a long time because, I'll finish with this answer here, that this cult doesn't like surprises.
It doesn't like states of flux.
It's very uneasy with states of flux, where it could go either way.
If it was involved in a football match, it would want to control both sides and the referee, so it knew the score before the game started.
That's what I'm talking about in terms of not wanting surprises.
That's why it uses mind control so much.
It uses so many mind-controlled people To do its bidding, because then they're controllable.
There's no surprises with a mind-controlled person who's operating according to program.
And so what we need to do is give them some bloody surprises.
And I think they've had a few already, but they need a lot more.
Yeah, I would agree, and it seems like they're moving too fast for people, and people are just waking up and seeing the mistakes that are being made because it appears they're trying to rush through this and implement these agendas in such a speedy way that people are catching on and saying, well, look, there's something going on here.
Do you think that's a part of what's happening?
That's part of what's happening, yes.
And, you know, we mustn't give these people too much credit for being too bright.
You know, to understand the The psychology of the cult is to understand so much about what's going on.
See, these people are not omnipotent and all-powerful.
That's what they try to convince us they are.
So we'll think, oh, well, there's no point.
You know, what do they say?
Resistance is futile.
Because they want us to believe that.
So that we'll just, oh, there's nothing you can do.
They're all too powerful. No, they're not.
They're pathetic. And What they've done systematically, because they are so limited, they've had to put humanity in a smaller perceptual box than they're in.
And it's summed up by, in the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
They are the one-eyed man, and they've had to make humans blind for that to control them.
And they're terrified of humanity waking up, not just to this agenda, but to the true power that we have.
To create our own reality and to mold our own reality instead of life living us, which is what happens when the cult's in charge.
We live life by taking control of our lives and understanding that we have the power to do that.
They have to convince the target population that they have no power and there's nothing they can do.
So they have to do as they're told and look to their betters who are more intelligent than they are.
That's the dynamic they want us to believe in.
And it is a farce.
It's a fraud.
It's not like that at all.
The fear that this cult constantly lives with is one of exposure and one of humanity awakening.
Awakening to its true power and through that awakening to actually what the game is.
And you know, they're showing us how little power they have all the time with their censorship.
You know, I'm censored from all these major platforms.
I've been for a long time now.
And I'm one guy sitting in this little flat in the Isle of Wight in England.
And they're so terrified of me that they have to censor me.
Now, if they were all powerful, they wouldn't care about me.
They wouldn't care what I said, because they're all powerful.
They wouldn't care about some kid in his back bedroom who's putting out things to do with the way the world's manipulated.
They wouldn't be frightened of him or her.
No, but they are.
And the more they censor, as we're seeing now, Their COVID narrative is so ridiculous.
It's so tenuous.
It's so unsupportable by the evidence that they're having to now to defend it.
So anyway, they can. They can't do it with evidence.
They're now censoring and deleting people for the mildest, mildest criticism.
They put an organization in Britain At Facebook, they suspended them for using an interview with a woman who was describing what happened to her husband when he had this fake vaccine.
Put him in a neurological ward.
And she was describing what happened.
Suspension. Because the narrative, the COVID narrative, is so ridiculous.
They know it's ridiculous that they're terrified of it being exposed.
And so their censorship gets more and more childlike and ludicrous.
They're telling us they have no power.
And when the penny drops and we realize where the power is, Then this game is over.
I mean, you know, how many people we have, we must be getting on towards now, 8 billion people.
And the number of people that are behind this in full knowledge, you probably get in a single room.
And, you know, the answer's staring us in the face.
And the thing is, they know it is.
They know that any moment, their game could be over.
And they're running around like, you know, one of these bloody amusement games trying to knock people on the head with a hammer when they stick their heads up, trying to stop the public waking up.
But what I'm seeing now, I don't know about you, is we've reached a stage where people in the system are now starting to get it.
And, you know, People will use every excuse and every explanation they can, short of, actually, it's a freaking conspiracy, and it's a conspiracy to do horrible things to the human race.
They don't want to go there, obviously, so they give the benefit of the doubt.
Oh, no, they're just idiots.
They're doing this because they're idiots, and they're doing this because they're incompetent, and they're doing that because they want to make money.
But after over a year of this, more and more of them are saying, I can't explain it a way like that now.
As one guy said, Michael Yeadon, a former Pfizer executive and chief scientific advisor, I cannot think of a benevolent reason why they're rolling out these vaccines.
And once you cross that point, When there is no other explanation except it's a conspiracy, that's when the penny drops and you start to see it.
And, you know, there are more and more people in the system that are getting it because they can't explain it away any longer in any other way, except this was all planned, which, of course, some of us have known about for a long time.
Right. Yeah.
And you were talking about the censorship and the cancel culture.
It's such a powerful weapon being used by the media and social media right now.
It's keeping a majority of the people in the dark.
We're only seeing one side of the story.
I mean how far do you think this can go?
We're actually erasing a portion of our history.
Future generations won't know what happened.
I mean it's not much different than now.
We don't really know much about our past because of our history.
Books have been altered and our education system is terrible.
But these people have been doing an amazing job demonizing free-thinking individuals.
If you question a narrative, you're either crazy or a conspiracy theorist or now a racist
or even QAnon supporter, which equals crazy.
And I think this whole QAnon thing was an intentional op to kind of elicit this type of response.
What do you think about that?
100%.
100%. I knew QAnon was a scam because I'd heard it before.
I'd heard it maybe three or four times before over the last 30 years, where the same narrative, the same story, the same plan was played out.
And so the others, or they were going to arrest the bad guys.
Well, those bad guys were never arrested.
And But they played it out again.
And as more and more people wake up, of course, and start to question everything, they can play things out that they've used before because people just waking up won't know they've played them out before.
So QAnon was a trap.
To A, say to people, and this is a constant theme with these different versions of the same thing, you don't have to do anything, trust the plan.
Well, we actually do. And the other thing was to create a situation in which people were demonized.
They're what I call pushbackers, that they were demonized.
And I do think that The Trump era was a trap.
The question I have is how much did Trump know?
How much didn't he know? But I think it was definitely a trap.
You know, when you look at Trump and he was facing the best part of 20 people
before and after the primaries to run for the the presidential nomination in the
Republican Party, and we were told the Republican Party didn't like Trump and didn't want Trump.
Well, we saw with Hillary Clinton and the Wikileaks emails, et cetera, that were leaked, that the
Democratic Party had no problem stitching up Bernie Sanders internally to to make
sure that Clinton got the nomination.
And if the Republican Party hierarchy had wanted to stop Trump getting the nomination, then he wouldn't have got it.
But he got it.
And not only that, he won the election.
And The whole thing goes back to a guy called Saul Alinsky.
I mean, what I'm saying is the way this has played out.
Saul Alinsky, if people haven't come across him, he was a so-called community leader in Chicago.
He was a Marxist.
And he wrote a book called Rules for Radicals about how you transform a society into a Marxist society.
And one of his key golden rules was that you don't focus your attention on faceless corporations or bureaucracies.
If you want to divide a society, you pick one individual and you focus all your blame and all your hatred on him or her.
And so when Trump came to power, I mean, for the next four years, virtually every news story, everything that went wrong, and every criticism was focused at Donald Trump.
And what they were trying to do and succeeded in was divide America.
And so you've got this mentality of Which has become known as WOKE. Which is 100% the creation of this cult.
That's why the cult billionaires and corporations fund it to the tune of extraordinary amounts of money.
Things like BLM, part of the whole woke culture, as it's called.
And it's been programmed into the young through the schools and the universities, more and more extreme as we have gone through the years.
And so they had that mentality.
And on the other side, they wanted to play off against them, those that actually didn't want the woke.
They didn't want to destroy the economy for a hoax of human-caused climate change.
They didn't want to have censorship and to cancel culture.
They didn't want all the things that the woke agenda is about.
And so suddenly you've created a big division between two distinct groups.
Demands or states of perception, the woke and the pushbackers who are pushing back on the woke.
Another thing they don't want is open borders, which is a woke agenda, as we've seen since Biden came in.
And so through the Trump years, this division was created and elevated.
And the foundation of it, if you look at it, was hatred of Trump by the Wokers.
You had them hating Trump and everything he did, they hurled hatred at him.
And on the other side, you had a lot of other people who near worshipped Trump.
You could see the division appearing in American society through the four years.
And so they wanted to Eventually, bring in a fully woke administration that was going to push through all the woke agenda, which is the cult agenda.
And that's what we had when Biden came in.
And on the cusp of that, just as he was coming in, they wanted to put the pushbackers Completely on the back foot to demonize them and to marginalize them in terms of the public perception.
And so you had QAnon appear earlier in the Trump administration.
And this built up and built up and built up until January the 6th.
And on January the 6th, you had this big crowd in Washington.
You had this nonsense from QAnon that Trump was going to keep the presidency and Biden was going to be arrested and all these other people.
Absolute nonsense.
And the vast majority of the crowd were there to protest about, and I absolutely agree with them, about a stolen election.
But There was a sting waiting.
And you had people from...
People from Antifa, people from Black Lives Matter, people from the woke extreme who were dressed as Trump supporters and were pushing the whole head for the Capitol building.
And then there were genuine Trump supporters that got caught up in that excitement and fell for it.
And what gave it away was the complete lack of law enforcement defense of the Capitol building.
It was like, you know, there you go, there you go, there you go.
It was unbelievable.
When you knew that such a crowd was going to be there, then any enforcement, any government would say, okay, well, we're going to make sure they don't get in the Capitol building.
But they didn't make those preparations at all because they wanted them in there.
And they wanted him in there so that they had a coup, a PR coup, to demonize everybody.
All the thousands and thousands of people in the mall who didn't go in the Capitol building.
They all got the same demonization.
And it was a stink.
And, you know, it's put pushbackers on the back foot, but we just have to, you know, brush ourselves down and get back in the game because what we have on our side is the truth.
This whole hoax of so-called COVID-19 is there to be dismantled.
And instead of...
You know, defending ourselves.
You know, no, no, I'm not this, I'm not that.
Well, call me what you like. I'm going to speak my truth.
I don't care how you try to demonize me.
I don't care what you throw at me.
What abuse? I don't care.
I'm not listening to it.
I'm going to keep speaking my truth.
But, you know, 74 million people voted for Trump at the last election.
And most of them, well, all of them really, are going to be in some level pushbackers against this cult agenda.
And, you know, we need to not apologise for what we believe and not apologise for what we do and just get on with it.
Because what they want to do, and this has been the reason for this hysteria I mean, this moron, Chuck Schumer, describing January 6th, which wasn't an insurrection, it was a riot, as our Pearl Harbor.
I mean, the man's an idiot.
But he's obviously an idiot that says what he's told to say when he's told to say it.
So, you know, he prospers in life despite the fact that he's an idiot.
And what they have tried to do with this hysteria and the tracking down of anyone that was in the mall and all that stuff is to intimidate people.
The pushback mentality so that we just go away.
Well, we ain't going away.
We mustn't go away. We must run out of them even harder because they are trying to kid us.
They have the power. They don't.
Right. I agree 100%.
Now, one of the most terrifying aspects at this moment for me is, you know, the speculations and theories about what this vaccine is, how it affects people, and that there may be underlying malevolent intentions such as altering genetics or DNA. Sterilization, a whole list of possible scenarios that you hear about, a whole list of theories.
I'd like to know, what do you think that we're dealing with?
I have close family members that have already received the vaccination.
Thankfully, they've had no adverse reactions so far, but we have no idea what long-term effects will be, and it was obviously rushed out.
And I'd like to know, I'm pretty sure there are multiple purposes for this thing, but what do you think?
Well, let's look at it from a cult point of view.
It wasn't rushed out.
It appeared to be rushed out.
Absolutely it did, from a public arena.
But I said last April that...
When they were saying, oh, you know, maybe they'll find a vaccine, I said the vaccine's already sitting there.
The contents of the vaccine's already sitting there.
This virus hoax is to justify the vaccine.
It's not the virus that's the bioweapon.
The virus doesn't bloody exist.
It's the vaccine that's the bioweapon justified by the COVID hoax.
And so, again, let's look at it dispassionately.
The makers don't claim it stops transmission of what they claim is a virus.
They don't claim that it stops you getting it, what they claim is a virus.
They just say it may, you know, lessen some of the more extreme symptoms.
They're already saying that more and more, actually it's lockdown, not the vaccine that's pushed the cases down.
And the Infection, alleged infection, to alleged death ratio is coming down all the time.
There was a figure around 0.23%.
There's been a study come out of Harvard recently, which put it, I think, was 0.15%.
And so you're not dealing with a deadly virus.
You're dealing with something that doesn't exist.
But even if you take their figures and their narrative, it's of no danger whatsoever to the vast majority of people, even by their narrative.
And yet...
They are pressuring people in every way, shape and form, not least by these passports, you won't be able to do anything if you don't have it, to have this alleged vaccine.
It's not a vaccine. It doesn't fulfill the definition of vaccines.
So why would they do that?
I mean, people need to ask that.
Look at the figures, even their figures, manipulated and nonsensical as they are.
And ask yourself, why on that basis do they want every man, woman, and child?
They keep saying this, every man, woman, and child on the planet vaccinated.
Because it's not about COVID-19.
Of course it's not. It's about changing the nature of the human body.
I've been writing about this for decades now.
They have a plan unfolding to turn, I'll call it human 1.0, the human form we have now, into human 2.0.
Which is planned to be a much more synthetic entity than the human body we have now.
And so at the same time, they are seeking to phase out human 1.0 and then phase in the synthetic biological 2.0.
And so if you look at the various elements of this, and again, I've been tracking this for decades now, The sperm counts globally, not least in the West, are absolutely plummeting.
Catastrophically. There was a book that came out just a few months ago now that looked at all this in detail and said unless things change, sperm counts are going to put an end to the human race because they're simply not going to be the ability to procreate.
Now, Aldous Huxley in Brave New World in 1932 described world state hatcheries where children were not produced through procreation but through technological means.
And the kind of artificial wombs that he kind of described were They're introducing them.
This technology is now being played out.
And the idea is that human 2.0 won't be produced by procreation, but by technological means.
And so if you're going to do that, then 1.0 has to go, and that's what they're doing with the sperm counts.
And it's what they're doing with...
I mean, when I was growing up as a kid in the 1950s, Even the early 60s and on.
You never heard fertility clinics.
And there must have been one or two existed, but I mean, you never heard it.
Now it's an industry. All over the world, it's an industry.
Because people are finding it more and more difficult to produce children.
And Michael Yeadon, this former Pfizer executive and chief scientific advisor, wrote to the European Medicines Agency with another doctor, a German doctor called Wolfgang Wodarg, Demanding that they stop the rollout of these alleged vaccines because of the number of reasons, but one of them was the potential impact on fertility, not least through stopping the development of the placenta.
And I've just finished a book, which is in production at the moment.
It's coming out as soon as we can get it out.
And I've looked at this and all these different elements, if you look at them and connect the dots, they're all targeting the future of human 1.0.
And what are these...
These vaccines, these mRNA vaccines for a start, or alleged vaccines, they are synthetic genetic material.
And one of the biggest advancing, expanding aspects of mainstream science today is synthetic biology.
And you're seeing like, you know, all this movement towards synthetic biology, synthetic organs, synthetic blood, synthetic skin, all of it.
And this is the movement towards human 2.0.
And so these genetically manipulating vaccines are part of that.
The material they're putting into people is self-replicating.
So once it's in there, it starts to replicate.
And the more you put in there, the more this is going to advance.
And this is the scam to get people to accept that and to entrap them.
First of all, your ideal, you want mandatory vaccination.
That's what you want. But you're not sure at the moment you get away with it.
So you do it through the back door.
You say, well, we're going to introduce these passports, and if you don't have these genetically manipulating vaccines, then you can't have any kind of life.
You can't go anywhere. You can't do anything.
So you better have it.
And now, again, just look at the figures, the official figures for this so-called virus and its effect.
And that should be a red flag and flashing red lights in the head of everyone in the world.
And so what they're saying is, if you want to go about your normal life, You've got to have a vaccine passport.
This is what's happening. It's been planned for years and years.
They're all coming out together.
But it's like I said at the start of our chat.
It's all been planned and it's all been sitting there.
That's why all these different elements of the vaccine passport are coming out in different countries at the same time.
They all seem to call them green, don't they?
Which connects people into this green climate change hoax agenda, which is fundamentally involved in With the COVID agenda, which is why people like Gates and Klaus Schwab at the World Economic Forum are pushing for changes in the world due to climate change, as much as they are changes in the world due to so-called COVID. It's all part of the same plan.
So what they're saying to people now, or will be very shortly, in places like Israel, they already are, is You're not going to have a normal life unless you have the vaccines that we've said you must have.
So, okay, so a lot of people, what they're going to do, and I've done, is to say, okay, look, I've got to live a life, so I'll have this one, or I'll have the first two, which is where they're up to now.
But they are going to say, in fact, they're already indicating it, that you have to have the COVID vaccine every year.
In Britain, They're already talking about giving out booster injections, a third one, in September.
So what about the passport?
Well, I've got my passport because I've had my first two.
Oh, yes, but if you're going to keep your passport, you've got to have the booster.
And you've got to have one every year.
Oh, yeah. And you know these variants?
We've got an Indian variant now.
And we've got a...
We've got a South African variant.
We've got a UK variant.
We've got a Brazilian variant.
We've got all these variants. So, you know, I mean, as Michael Yeadon said in an interview recently, these big pharma giants of evil are already developing variant vaccines.
So what's going to happen is if you're going to keep the passport, And therefore, be able to do anything.
You've got to keep having these more and more compounding numbers of fake vaccinations.
And what's that doing? It's infusing synthetic genetic material into the body.
And a lot of people are not going to be able to deal with that.
And it's going to kill them.
And then others will...
Be able to deal with it and a new human will emerge.
But that's what we're looking at.
And this whole thing about the no procreating human, what don't you need if you don't procreate the human race?
You don't need men and women.
And so this transgender agenda that came out of nowhere is Is a stepping stone.
I mean, you know, these transgender activists, they think it's all about them.
I mean, do wake up.
You're being played like a stringed instrument.
It's not about transgender rights.
This is about confusing gender on the roads of fusing gender because the human 2.0 is planned to be a no gender human.
So don't think that this is about transgender.
This is about no gender.
And what they're doing is why they're targeting the kids in the schools and the universities is they are confusing gender.
First of all, you've got man, woman, the biological human, man, woman, and then you start to confuse it.
And now, I mean, people like the BBC, they run stories about the fact there's a hundred genders.
No, there's not. The people might feel that they're this or that and the other, but biologically, you've got two genders, but they don't want that.
What's happening now is if you are a professor In this arena, in a university, you say, actually, you know, biologically, there's two genres.
No, you're out. You're gone.
The wokers have had you. Because they don't want you to hold that.
Because that is two plus two equals four.
We're being taken into a world in which two and two equals five.
And to do that, you have to go into a no-facts society, where facts don't matter, we're there, where you just say this is how it is, and that's how it is.
You don't have to support it with any facts.
And so, no, no, there's 100 genders.
Well, there's not. But if you say there's not, then you get all this abuse.
Not that I could care less.
So the kids are being systematically manipulated to let go of gender.
First of all, confuse them and then fuse human 2.0 and no gender human.
And that's why the procreation problems are being systematically manipulated.
You know, I said years ago, this is the reason that they're targeting men.
You know who they're targeting by who you can say what you like about and who you can't.
So they're targeting men and you can say what you like about men.
Any other form of sexuality, no.
Although they're starting to turn on women as well.
As I said, they would because you've got two genders.
They don't want either of them anymore.
So they start by targeting men, the war on men, toxic masculinity, and now they're just starting to move towards the women, which is what I said they would.
As transgender starts to, you know, this Biden bill, you know, which has basically destroyed women's sport for a start, and how women have no right to privacy.
Because, you know, I could say in America, I self-identify as a woman called Lola, right?
Right. Well, that gives me the right to invade a woman's privacy, go into their bathroom, engage in their sport.
And because men have, obviously, a greater strength and muscle mass, they're going to dominate the sport.
Women are just being cast aside.
You would say that, wouldn't you?
Why are they doing this to women?
Why are they destroying their women's sport?
Because they want...
They're targeting both genders.
It's just that the men came first.
And what they do is they play the people they're targeting off against each other.
So you have the Me Too movement where, you know, women demonize men.
And it's like, hold on a minute.
They're coming for you next.
And it's already started.
So this is what's going on.
As you connect the dots, the synthetic infusion into the body of this fake vaccine, the transgender agenda, all of this stuff, I mean, there's a horrific phone footage on DavidUp.com I saw today where there's these drag queens and they've got these kids And on a stage, and it's horrific, and people should go and see it.
It's circulating around the internet now.
And why in countries all over the world, at the same time, Basically, do people have the same idea in authority?
Oh, no, we're going to have drag queens in the schools or in the local libraries.
We're going to have them reading stories to little toddlers and stuff.
What is a drag queen?
It's a man dressed as a woman.
What's that? And I have no problem with them.
Be my guest. Enjoy yourself.
Just don't push at anyone else.
But what is that?
It's gender confusion.
And that's the whole thing that's going on now with the kids and the young is confusing their perception of gender.
So you're taking the anchors away.
And that's part of this whole thing for the no gender human that we're moving into.
Yeah, you can definitely see how those agendas tie together, the transhuman agenda, along with the vaccine and women's sports.
Everything that you mentioned, it all ties together in this agenda.
Now, we've got a few minutes left, and I kind of want to switch gears a little bit into something else that's been happening the past few years.
That I find very interesting and also most likely very deceptive.
We've had the Tic Tac, the Oumuamua, Israeli defense official talking about a galactic federation, recently pyramid UFOs, and the most mainstream UFO coverage that I've ever seen before in the past few years.
Now, it's coming from our government, it's coming from the media, so of course there's an agenda behind it.
I'd like to get your thoughts on what that could be.
Well, I started writing about this in the 1990s and revelations about Project Bluebeam, which was a project to eventually have a fake alien invasion.
And you see, where they want to go in terms of political structure is to a global level.
So there's a world government dictating and a world army and a world central bank, and it's all centrally dictated.
Every community in the world is dictated to from this central point.
That's what the smart grid's all about and the plans they have to connect the human brain to AI. It's about central control and creating a hive human mind which can be centrally controlled.
But that's another subject.
And so if you...
If you want to centralize power and you want to centralize power very quickly, then a mutual threat from beyond is a great way of doing it.
We must unite. We must pull everything.
We must have basically a global war cabinet to meet the threat of this threat from beyond.
And I remember a quote from Ronald Reagan when he was president.
Who said that, you know, in a speech at the United Nations, that if there was basically a threat from a non-human race, a non-human force, it would unite us and we'd put down all the things that divide us.
And so there was a A guy who was a Nazi, he was an engineer and a scientist in the Nazi regime called Werner von Braun.
And he developed the V2 rockets that were fired by the Nazis on London, did tremendous amount of damage.
And after the war, the CIA, in league with other networks, They had something called Operation Paperclip, Project Paperclip, in which they got the major Nazi geneticists and engineers out of Germany, and they brought them to the United States.
A lot of them went to South America as well, but the United States too.
And one of them was Werner von Braun.
And he then, because these Nazi engineers basically created NASA. And he worked at NASA von Braun, and he was the lead engineer developing the Saturn V rockets that powered the Moon program.
And why I'm saying all this is because he had an assistant, an American assistant, And when he found he was dying, he told her to watch for a series of things that would all be hoaxes and it would be a sequence.
And he talked about terrorism, like terrorist groups like al-Qaeda and stuff as we know them now.
There would be rogue countries that they would bring to the fore that would frighten the hell out of the world and allow things to happen that otherwise wouldn't happen.
He talks about asteroids and stuff like that, space debris, that would be said to be a threat to the world.
Look at all the things you could manipulate on the back of that.
And the final one, he said in this long, there were others as well, was a fake alien invasion.
And this is, I think, something we need to keep in mind.
With current events, because I've been kind of following this now, and I've been to America so many times.
You know, I used to go to America in the 90s and across the millennium.
I used to go for about three months at a time, as long as the visa would allow me.
So I met loads of people and loads of people in the UFO arena and whistleblowers and what have you.
And in that entire period, there was a tremendous suppression of information about so-called UFOs and people that claimed that they had had interactions with them.
With aliens and stuff.
And it was ridiculed and it was dismissed and it was not taken seriously by the authorities.
But then suddenly, as you mentioned, and I've been kind of waiting for this, really, after, you know, what I found long ago.
Suddenly, it's all changed, hasn't it?
Suddenly, the Pentagon is taking it seriously, is releasing information and confirming that there are things going on they can't explain, that they're allowing footage to be released of pilots, military pilots, who've caught on their radar craft doing things that...
In the public arena, we know we're near doing.
Changing speed or changing direction at tremendous speed, actually the speed itself.
But another thing that I've picked up over the years traveling around America and talking to people about all the Area 51 and all these other different aspects of it is that it's very clear that what we call flying saucer technology is It's in the hands of the American military, probably other military too, like the Chinese, but it's just anti-gravity technology.
And if you want to give the impression that some alien invasion is going on, and you've got technology which is actually flown by humans, but the public have no idea.
If they see something like that, immediately they think alien.
Because, well, we haven't got anything like that.
We're not in the public arena.
We haven't. No. And I'm not dismissing that there are other forms of life.
Of course, it's ridiculous.
I mean, the idea that we're the only form of life is, I mean, it's beyond bloody laughable.
But we've got to be very careful about this.
Because, again, if you can keep from people the technology that you have, then you're in a wonderful position to scam the belief that there's an alien invasion when you're using technology that the public don't know about.
I think we've got to watch this very, very carefully because it's been a very blatant and obvious change of attitude by the Pentagon and the The authorities in general to how they were even not that long ago.
Yeah, I would agree. I think that it's something to pay attention to very skeptically and with some reservations about it because of the sources coming from.
But David, I want to thank you for coming on.
In closing, what do you think is any possible solutions that we could have to this?
What do we as people and as our society need to do to come together to kind of counteract this?
I mean, the answer is just sitting there.
I mean, it's sitting there like this.
Over here! Over here!
And that's non-cooperation.
You know, a relative handful of people can't control billions of people unless the billions cooperate with their own enslavement.
What if last spring Or even through the summer as it became, realised that this wasn't a deadly virus.
The people said, look, we ain't doing it.
No, we're not wearing a mask.
Okay, so millions and millions and millions.
So take Trump supporters or Trump voters, 74 million people.
What if, you know, a large number of them, hopefully all of them, just said, I'm not wearing a mask anymore.
I'm not doing it. Be unenforceable.
You take the people that are ultimately dictating this from the shadows, and you then add to them all the law enforcement and all the official government that's playing out what they're deciding and enforcing it, and you've still got a tiny, tiny, tiny number of people compared with the global population.
They're impotent.
If the population say no, not doing it.
In anything like big numbers.
So it's sitting there.
And it's no good It's no good people saying, well, I won't do anything yet, but if it gets any worse, I will.
And then when it gets worse, which it has been doing all the way through the last year and more, what are you going to do then?
Oh, well, I'm not going to do anything now, but if it gets any worse, and so it goes on and on and on and on.
And there comes a point where, look, come on, are we going to stand up for freedom or not?
And the way you stand up for freedom is refuse to be anything but free.
Okay, do I have the freedom to wear a mask?
Well, no, it's not. Watch me.
Do I have freedom to ignore your ludicrous rules that are only there to control me?
Well, no, of course. No, no, watch me.
And when people in enough numbers do that, you know, protests are great in the sense that they are a visual representation of public feeling.
And they give people who are maybe isolated in their family, you know, who don't think like they do, they see.
It's a way of seeing that there's so many other people think the way you do.
So that's great on that level.
The answer is not protest.
That's just, you know, an expression of it.
It's not cooperating.
It's saying, no, I'm not doing it.
That's all it is.
You know, I mean, we had a march in London a few weeks ago against lockdown and so many people turned up.
There's another one on the 24th of April.
So many people turned up.
Nothing the police could do. I mean, if a few people turned up, the police were in.
Gotcha. But so many people turned up, the police just basically stood on and watched.
Of course, there's just too many people.
They couldn't cope with it. And when the police chief was interviewed, it was clear from his reaction that he was taken aback by how many people there were.
So it's all sitting there waiting to be done.
And what they're doing is desperately trying to divide in rulers by getting the population to police itself.
Or will our officers, our next-door neighbours, been in the garden twice today?
Or I'll turn a car around.
I mean, that's what they're trying to do, the Stasi technique of turning the population against itself.
But there's still vast numbers of people, despite all that, who've got it and seen it.
We've got to move from seeing it, which more and more people are, to ceasing to cooperate with it, refusing to conform and refusing to obey.
And when enough people do that, this is over.
It's unenforceable. The whole thing's unenforceable.
And the longer we leave it, the more we're allowing these structures of control, technological control, things like the passports and all that, to To lock in this gathering control system like you see in China.
And so what are we waiting for?
Because if you think it's going to get any better without you ceasing to cooperate, well, it's not.
They're banking on that, that you think like that.
You say, oh, I'll just wait a bit longer.
Yeah, okay, let's give them more time to make it worse and to lock in these structures of control, which makes pushback more difficult.
How long are we going to wait?
I mean, how long have we waited already?
Because if people think it's going to get better or they'll keep their head down and it'll get better, it's not.
It's not meant to. It's meant to get worse.
It's meant to get more and more extreme.
And so When's our line going to be crossed?
Mine was crossed at the start of the first lockdown.
And I've refused to cooperate with any of them.
I won't do it. Give me consequences.
I'm still not doing it.
Intimidate me. Well, you won't because you can't.
I'm not doing it because if you compromise or appease tyranny, it's a mugs game because tyranny will always want more appeasement and more appeasement and more obeisance and so on until it's got you completely stitched up and all your freedom's gone.
So the only way to meet this is to say I'm not compromising in any way, shape or form with tyranny.
When we've got the numbers, it's over.
So you don't say, well, there's nothing we can do.
No, there's nothing you want to do.
There's nothing that you would like to do because you'd rather not have to do it.
But we do.
We have to look this in the face.
We have to look it in the eye and say, no, I'm not cooperating with it.
Because they have no power.
This is the point.
Authority has no power except the power we give to it.
Fascism is not brought in by fascists.
Never has been. There's not enough of them.
It's brought in by public acquiescence, population's acquiescence to fascism.
It's the only way it can be brought in.
You know, you look at Nazi Germany.
Look how many people were in Germany at that time compared with the number of full-blown Nazis there were.
They acquiesce to it and therefore they got it.
And that should be a lesson to us all.
But for some, they're still not getting it.
You cannot appease fascism.
You cannot appease tyranny.
You can only look it in the eye and say, I'm not cooperating with you.
And what happens, happens.
But I'm not. I'd rather die than wear a mask.
I would. Because in the end, you know, Martin Luther King talked about this.
But if you're faced with a great cause and you're being challenged to stand up for some great cause, my God, it's a great cause now.
When you think of the world our kids and grandkids are going to live in if we don't end this nonsense.
When you're faced with it, but you won't do it.
You let fear or, you know, what are the consequences for me get in the way?
Something inside you dies.
A king talked about this. Something inside you dies.
And, you know, I know of people who can see what's happening.
But they're in families that can't.
And they've, although they know about all this and they've read about all this and they've read about the vaccines and what's in them and all that stuff, they've had the vaccine.
They've had the vaccine, fake vaccine, to appease their family, who clearly are clueless because they don't know anything about what's going on, just believe what the government tells them.
And those people are not the same people.
Something inside them has died on a spiritual level because of what they've done.
Because they know that they shouldn't have done it.
And they know that they've conceded their self-respect to appease others.
And you can't do that if you want to...
Bring an end to tyranny. We've got to look it in the eye.
But almost not even that.
We just don't cooperate with it.
No, I'm not doing it. Not doing it.
Do this. Nope. Do that.
Nope. Nope.
Enough people have that attitude.
It's over. And it is that simple.
It is that simple.
Because the few can't control the many without the acquiescence of the many.
Yes, very well said.
I agree 100%.
We just have to not comply with any of this.
David, thank you so much again for coming on today.
Thank you for taking the time.
Fantastic information.
And I'd definitely love to speak with you again in the future.
Okay. Nice to talk to you again.
See you. Bye. Yeah, have a good day.
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