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March 31, 2021 - David Icke
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David Icke Talks To The Atlantic Underground Podcast
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🎵Outro Music🎵 Hello, our truth warriors.
Today's guest has been the gold standard for information over the past decades, and it can't be denied that once what was ridicule slowly unfurled to show its truths.
He is a renegade who pushes the boundaries for your freedoms and exposes the hidden program of our enslavement.
Thankfully, he never knows the meaning of the word quit.
And returning today to keep us up to date on the ever-evolving insanity we are seeing.
When you take on Goliath, you do need a David.
And it's our brother in arms, the one and only David Icke.
Oh, I like it. Hiya, chaps.
Hello. Very well.
Thank you very much, David, for taking the time again to join us.
No problem. Yeah, so I'd like to start out, we've got a lot of stuff to cover here for sure, and it's been a while since we last spoke.
Could we talk about how things have escalated regarding the COVID-19 situation?
And will people accept their fate regarding these vaccine passports and the variant COVID strains and the mass lockdowns in the future?
What is your take on all this?
Well, it's the script.
It's a script that's been planned a very long time.
It's a script that keeps unfolding.
And the government and authority statements are simply to justify the script.
This is why they are incredibly contradictory.
Because at this point, you need to say that to justify this part of the script.
But at this point, you need to contradict that to justify this part of the script.
And this is what's going on.
I mean, it's hilarious.
You know, the British government is...
Oh, my God.
The British government is asking for the public's views on a vaccine passport as if they could care bloody less.
This vaccine passport is the way that they plan to isolate what I call pushbackers, because this vaccine, fake vaccine, it doesn't even meet the criteria of a vaccine, but this alleged vaccine is so important To this whole deal, because of the impact on the human body and the progression, the progressional changes in the human body.
I mean, they've just announced in Britain that over 70s, who are having these two first vaccines, will get a booster in September.
I mean, it's just compounding it and compounding it and compounded it.
So this is the way...
That they are seeking to transform the nature of the human body.
And so if that's your agenda, then you're gonna throw everything at achieving that.
And the Passing the line, crossing the line of outright mandatory vaccines is one that it seems at the moment they don't think they can cross.
I'm not saying they won't cross it eventually because that's what they want, but they don't think that they can cross that yet.
So they're doing it by, you don't have to have it, but you can't do anything if you don't.
And we've had Blair.
I mean, when Blair speaks, this global cult is speaking.
I mean, he's just a gopher for these people.
That's why he was the one that fronted up the weapons of mass destruction that weren't to justify the invasion of Iraq.
He's a war criminal.
When he opens his mouth, the cult is speaking.
And he's just said that Vaccination is going to be your route to liberty.
You're going to have this genetically transforming bunch of shite, or you're not going to be able to do anything, like even work.
We're moving into a situation that is beyond fascism.
Not even this was going on in Nazi Germany among the general German population.
But now it is here.
I mean, you can't leave the country.
You can't leave Britain.
It's against the law currently.
And it's been a process of...
I mean, if you just think...
What if they proposed this last March?
What?! Yeah, right, exactly.
But they have been on this, what I call the totalitarian tiptoe, actually it's a totalitarian sprint now, of incrementally moving through 2020 to present time.
And not only continually adding new levels of the fascism, but breaking down people's resistance to it so that they get used to it.
It's a very simple technique.
You say, okay, we're introducing this.
So you start with flattening the curve last March.
Never ever going to be just that.
So you've now got people to accept house arrest.
So you've made a start.
And people say, well, when the masks and the mandatory masks came in, they say, well, why are you introducing them now?
What do you introduce them last March?
But they just thrown everything in last March.
That would have been like, OK, hold on a minute.
So they incrementally get people used to increasing totalitarianism, and then in the middle of the summer, where the alleged deaths from COVID were falling, They bring in the masks.
It made no sense, but that's in the script at that point.
And then, of course, you go to mandatory masks here, mandatory masks there, and then you increase where you have to have the mandatory masks.
And then you've got Fauci, this criminal, walking around in two.
Always with a different colour, so you can see he's wearing two.
And then it was, well, you have the vaccine, we go back to normal.
Well, actually, there was one before that.
Goodness knows how much money's been spent, goodness me, on propaganda by the British government alone.
But they were putting out videos and advertisements saying you had football games full of the crowd.
You had all the things that used to happen.
And then it said... You want to go back here?
We all want to go back here.
Get tested.
And of course, people went and got tested.
And with a test not testing for the virus, they then produce a lot more cases to justify going further away from going back to all that stuff.
And then, like I say, they say, you want to go back to normal?
Have the vaccine. People have the vaccine and now it's, oh no, you've still got to wear a mask.
It's so obvious to anyone with a brain cell on active duty that we're following a script and the script ends in a A state of totalitarianism that would make Orwell wince.
Shake his head and say, I understated it.
The amount of people that I've seen that were saying, I'm just going to take the vaccine because I want to go on holiday.
I want to get away. And then all of a sudden, these measures come in the UK, didn't they, that you can't actually fly or go anywhere now?
Yeah. And what is happening, and this is, you know, the positive side of it, It's like the old phrase of Abraham Lincoln.
You can fool some of the people some of the time and some people all of the time, but you can't.
You can't basically scam all of the people all of the time.
And as these lies have unfolded, and people have seen them, it started to break down a very...
I mean, it is now a very large number of people.
It's not... Well, I say it's not vocal.
It's very difficult to be vocal because it has no access to the mainstream media.
But I could tell you the numbers are, if you just lined them up, would be very, very large now of people that have seen through it.
They might not see the big picture in which it all plays out, but they've seen that they're being lied to and they can see that this COVID thing is a scam.
And they can see that, you know, the lies that they're being told, which are then, you know, they go back on them.
It is breaking people's resistance down to the idea that the world is not like they thought it was.
I get stopped by people in the street.
You know what I'm hearing a lot at the moment?
Is, you know, my members of my family or my friends, oh, they bought the whole bloody thing back in March.
Oh, yeah. But they're not buying it anymore.
So, you know, what we have to do is turn that seeing it into ceasing to cooperate with it.
That's absolutely vital and it's got to start now in terms of mass non-cooperation with this because it's moving fast.
And one of the reasons it's moving fast is that the longer they take, the more people will suss it before they've shut everything down.
Yeah. Are you seeing, I was just going to say, Chris, are you seeing pushback?
I know we saw some protests and yesterday I just saw one on Twitter from Manchester where they broke the police lines.
I mean, we're seeing a lot of mass protests now in the UK. Are you seeing, what do you think of that?
Is that a way to kind of, is that the right way to go with this?
Well, we had a fantastic march in London last Saturday, or not just Saturday, just gone, the one before.
Yeah, I've seen that, yeah. Yeah, I mean, there were thousands there, and the police could do nothing about it, because they were walking down the centre of the roads, and you saw...
You know, confirmation of what I've just said, that thousands of people walking down the streets and it went on for a long time.
And obviously the traffic was stopped.
And you had the police walking either side, you know, with the front of the march.
But instead of complaining about all these people stopping the traffic, bus drivers were We're, you know, supporting them.
Taxi drivers were supporting them who were stuck in the traffic.
And you had people on bridges who weren't part of the march, but they were looking down and they were all cheering as the marches went underneath.
So, you know, we are reaching this point.
Where a very, very large number of people are starting to get it.
What we've started to have now too, which we've not had in any number, brave people as they are, are people in the medical arena starting to speak out more and more and more.
And taking the consequences for it as well, because the intimidation.
On the medical profession to keep quiet is extraordinary.
And they're terrified of their careers being destroyed if they speak out.
But the waters are just starting to break.
And so marches like that are good and rallies are good because they are a visual symbol of public feeling.
You know, if there was a few hundred walking through London, you'd think, well, not many people are getting it.
But it weren't. It was thousands, thousands.
But the point I've been making about protests and such like is that in and of themselves, they are not going to make a difference.
Unless they're supported by non-cooperation.
You know, if you have, like, 74 million people apparently voted for Trump, and most of those will be pushbackers.
You know, I'm not a Trump supporter, but most of them will be pushbackers.
They won't want what's happening.
But, you know, they could go on protests, or 74 million people, or the best part of it, could say we're not doing it.
We're not wearing masks.
We're going to open our businesses.
We're going to go back to work.
We're not going to have this bloody vaccine, which is not a vaccine, which we know has very, very sinister motives, nothing to do with some bloody virus that they've never proved to exist.
And that would be unenforceable.
You know, if 50, 60 million people, 70 million people, just we're not doing it.
I mean, it's over.
It's unenforceable. Because, you know, when you look at it, the number of people it takes to impose their will on billions is tiny because of acquiescence.
You know, a police officer comes up to you and says, I'm going to give you a ticket under COVID rules.
Okay, so then you say to the police officer, why are you doing this?
And he'll say, well, I've been ordered to do it.
Okay, so the guy who ordered you to do it, why did he order you to do it?
Well, it's superior order to do it.
And it goes on and on and on and on.
Back to a tiny few people who are initiating the whole thing.
And it's only possible for a few to control the many, when the many, all the way through this sequence, It acquiesces to the few.
You know, people say, oh, well, I don't know why we're going to do this.
I don't seem daft to me, but it's come up from on high, so we better do it.
Well, why must you do it?
You know, I say to, you know, police officers and such like, you are responsible for your actions.
You know, Following orders doesn't bloody wash.
It didn't in Nuremberg and it doesn't anymore.
When you're told to do something that's clearly fascist in nature and you do it, you are responsible for it.
And realize that you are helping to create a fascist society which your kids are going to have to live in for the rest of their lives unless we sort this out.
And this...
You see the extreme examples, you've just given one, of, well, I really need the vaccine, but I'm going to have it because I want to have a holiday on a beach somewhere.
But then you think, well, okay, so you want to go on a beach so badly That you are prepared to take an untested fake vaccine.
That's not untested by the ones in the shadows.
They know exactly what it's meant to do.
And it's going to affect you for the rest of your life, just so you can go on a beach.
In fact, now it seems they can't anyway.
So that is the ridiculous end of it.
But then there's another...
Side of it, where people who really don't want to do it, people who have really sussed it, But they compromise anyway.
They'll wear a mask in a shop because they don't want hassle.
Or they'll do this, that, and the other with the regulations because, well, I need to do this, so I'm going to compromise.
But the thing I would say is that tyranny You can never compromise with tyranny.
You can't. Because tyranny always wants something more.
Whatever you can see to it.
Okay, I'll wear a mask in a shop.
Yeah, well, that's not enough. Now we want this.
Now we want that. It wants everything.
It wants total control.
So, you know, I can only talk about my approach to this.
And that is, I ain't doing it.
I ain't doing any of it.
I've never done any of it.
I'll die before I put a face nappy on.
And all this other stuff that goes with it.
I will not do it.
And what about the consequences?
I'm not doing it because I will not compromise with fascism.
I will not. And the consequences can take care of themselves because the consequences have not...
Ceasing to cooperate with this are far worse than ceasing to cooperate with it because of where it's meant to go.
And we just need this...
And I know it's difficult for people.
I know it's intimidating.
And I know, you know, well, I can't do this if I don't do that.
I know. But where does it end if we go on compromising?
You know, people say to me, you can't go abroad if you're not vaccinated.
Well, go abroad then. Well, you won't be able to do this.
You won't be able to go in a pub if you're not vaccinated.
Well, we're going to pub then. I'm not doing it. And, you know, if there was a vast number of people who did that,
and I tell you what, they're lying to us about the number of people who've been vaccinated to try to try to make it
all everyone's doing it so so everyone should do it.
There is big pushback on this vaccine more than they're claiming. And the other thing is that they are lying and
covering up the enormity of people who died from this vaccine and have had severe reactions.
I mean, this guy in Britain, he's a health secretary called Matt Hancock or Pratt Hancock, as I call him.
And he was asked a couple of days ago by a member of parliament, what about the figures of people who've died from the vaccine within two weeks of the vaccine?
And where are the figures?
And from his answer, it's clear they're not compiling them.
We're hearing from nurses and ambulance people who are taking people with strokes, for instance, to hospital.
And they're asking people, because the number of strokes has suddenly increased, Have you been vaccinated?
And everyone turns out to have been so.
We've just had a nurse that's resigned from the NHS because she's sick of the lies, who's saying that we've had so many people coming in with adverse reactions to the vaccine, but they don't want to know about reporting them.
So when you see these numbers, which are large in themselves, Of reported deaths and adverse reactions.
It's a tiny, tiny fraction of what's actually happening.
Unless you're personally involved, you never hear of.
And it's a situation where we need to come to terms with the fact that we're dealing with a level of pure evil Which I define as the absence of love.
That is very difficult for people who haven't interacted with it in their lives to appreciate the scale of evil that we're dealing with.
And these people have no empathy.
They have no compassion.
They are completely deleted.
They're like software programs.
I mean, look at Gates. He's got no life.
No life in his eyes.
No sparkle. You know, no vibrance.
He's just a software program, appropriately, in his case.
And this is what we're dealing with.
And compromising with it is not an option.
It really isn't.
Because if we do, you compromise a bit.
Well, I'll just compromise a bit more.
And eventually it sucks you in.
And all resistance is gone.
It's time to not only...
Not cooperate with it, but start to be proactive on it.
Start to run at it.
You know, I did a video a few days ago about citizens' arrests.
Because during this march, you can see it on davidite.com, during this march, which was totally peaceful, the police just grabbed this bloke in a park.
He'd done nothing. You see it on film, he'd done anything.
And they ring around him and then this thug in a uniform Just walks up to the guy on the ground being held down by his other face nappies and kicks him, viciously kicks him, steps back, moves forward and kicks him again.
Now, anyone else did that, they would be in a dock.
And, you know, we need not to let this guy get away with it.
But, you know, when you've got a big crowd that outnumber the police and someone does that, we've got to start making citizen's arrests so they don't get away with it.
And let the police know that, you know, if you're going to do this, then there are consequences for you of doing it.
You know, I hear crowds and, you know, the police do, you know, come in and act with brutality because, you know, most of them know they can get away with it.
And the crowd is shouting, shame on you, shame on you.
That's got to stop.
We've got to start making citizens arrests of these people because they have no shame or they wouldn't do it.
When you make a citizen's arrest, do you hand them back over to the police to deal with it?
Well, yes you do, but you made a citizen's arrest Hopefully, as in this case, you have footage of what they've done.
Now they have to deal with it.
It's not that the people who witnessed it just walk away and get on with their lives and say, shame on you.
Now the police have got something that they have to proceed with.
They have to investigate.
And when this thug Yeah.
Because his consequences for him at the moment, there aren't any.
And we we really do not need to start being proactive here because we are dealing with I mean,
we are dealing with a very extreme state of fascism and tyranny here.
And it's not even started yet in where it wants to go.
It's no good sitting around hoping it will go away.
And it's no good just marching.
It's great to march. Like I say, it's a great visual confirmation of feeling.
But we've got to stop cooperating with it.
I mean, some people are doing this, but they go into supermarkets without masks in groups.
Flash mobs. Supporting each other.
You know, my brother did this, but if they take their trolleys to the checkout because they haven't got masks on, the store says...
We're not serving you. Okay, so you walk away and you leave your trolleys full of things.
You say, okay, I'll pull that lot back.
We'll be back tomorrow.
We've got to start impacting on events instead of just reacting to them.
Because if we don't, this is going to be at a point where it's going to be very difficult to turn it around.
Speaking of evil, Dr.
Evil Swab has a new game he wants to roleplay in July called Cyber Polygon.
Now this follows the videos that he's already released talking about the biggest threat to humanity being a cyber attack.
Now is this going to follow the protocols of the other dry runs we've seen for the likes of 9-11, the Boston bombing, the London bombing and as well as the VED-201?
Sure. Klaus Schwab, of course, he should, like Gates, not just be spending the rest of his life in jail, but being told to reincarnate a few hundred times to complete the sentence.
I mean, this is the most blatant Bond villain, Mr.
Evil, as you say, you could ever imagine.
And so what they do is they tell you what they're going to do.
I guess they'll get some pleasure out of it.
But just let's play the sequence.
They have targeted the interaction of people, direct communication with people through lockdown and in effect house arrest.
So suddenly all communication has moved onto the internet, onto cyberspace and They obviously can track that, and they can also pull the plug on it whenever they want.
And so they've got themselves in a situation where communication, systematic, this has been...
Because the internet, of course, was from military technology, DARPA, etc.
The technological development arm of the Pentagon.
And they've now got communication onto the internet.
Virtually, the overwhelming majority of communication is on the internet.
And they have algorithms to censor the internet.
Now they're in a situation where they have the power just to shut the internet down whenever they want.
And then all communication's gone.
And there's no doubt whatsoever that that's what they plan to do at some point.
I did a video again, it must have been months ago now, way back in 2020, about this whole cyber attack thing.
Because they won't say, oh, we're pulling the plug on the internet, of course.
They'll blame Iran or Russia or somebody.
But I'm sure that's part of the plan, for sure.
So I'd like to ask you about something that I saw in the UK. Some of these businesses in the UK were utilizing common law against these lockdowns.
Has that been effective for a lot of these businesses that you've seen?
And what have you learned about common law yourself over the past year?
Well, I first came across common law in 1996.
I was traveling around America, talking to nobody.
I mean, nobody, by people in someone's front room in Boston and what have you, eight people in Chicago or near Chicago.
But then, out of the blue, I got invited to a constitutional lawyers conference in Reno, Nevada.
And I went along.
It's a two-day conference. It's like, you know, why'd they ask me?
But they asked me to go along and speak.
And I watched it, of course, over the two days and got into this whole thing about common law and the law of the sea brought ashore called statute law.
The yellow...
Kind of around the flag of America, which makes it a very different flag to the one that people think it is.
So I was into all that then.
And in those days when I was traveling around America, talking to nobody but Compiling an enormous amount of information.
It was brilliant.
Nobody was listening to me, but I was gathering a lot of information, meeting a lot of people, whistleblowers and what have you, over three months.
And it was basically the conspiracy research arena in those days was what they called Christian Patriots.
When I had any kind of audience, that was the kind of audience that I was talking to.
People really weren't ready for it then, because they didn't really think there was any need for it.
It wasn't in their face.
But over the years, I've written about common law here and there in the books, but I've really got into it since this COVID hoax started, because now people are looking at it because there is a need to.
It's something that people wouldn't have bothered about, but more and more people are looking at it.
And so I think it's got a lot of potential.
In taking the system on.
I've got a common law birth certificate in the drawer there.
And I've got a lot of stuff relating to common law and myself.
And the thing is, and it was the same way back, if you're going to go down this route, you have to know what you're doing.
Because it can be a minefield if you don't.
And what some people are doing with business, and this has come from someone who's really become an expert in common law.
If you register your business, you are registering it with the system.
And so it's more difficult to claim common law because you've registered it with statute law.
But there are ways, I understand, to run a business under common law and get out of statute law altogether.
But it has worked with a lot of people who've gone through the whole, I'm not a corporation, I'm a living, breathing man or woman.
I don't contract with you, I don't consent with what you're doing, and I do not stand under your authority.
And that has had a lot of authority come and go and come and go and come and go.
But it needs to go on a much more solid footing, I think, in terms of businesses with people registering their business or running their business under common law and getting out the statute of law altogether.
It just seems that some of the video that I've seen in the UK, some of the businesses have used it, and it's been effective, hasn't it, though?
Yeah, it has. Although what I've just said about registering your business under statute of law makes it more difficult, You know, the system is, those that understand it in the system, most people, most of them don't, are concerned about this whole common law situation because of the way it exposes the scale.
I mean, it is breathtaking.
The scale of the deceit that is statute law.
And, you know, the problem is that you don't have a media that will go down this road and that people, you know, get on with their lives and they don't research this stuff.
And so the law to them is just one blob.
It's just the law. But you have these two very distinct levels of law or types of law.
One isn't really law.
It's legalese.
It's legal. That's the statute law that comes out of government.
And then you have the common law, which is the true law of the land.
And when you break down common law, in terms of a free society, it's perfect because it's basically saying the law is do no harm.
And, you know, my philosophy on life, I guess thinking about it aloud here, kind of fits with that because my philosophy has always been do what you like so long as you don't impose it on anyone else.
You know, if it's between consenting parties, you know, be my guest, none of my business.
You start imposing on people, I'm interested.
And that's what common law is basically saying, do no harm.
Do no harm physically, do no harm financially, do no harm in terms of property.
And that kind of deals with everything.
Because it's do no harm, you can't have victimless crimes.
Which, of course, statute law is full of victimless crimes.
And so it's perfect.
But you can see...
Why? They had to take the old contract law of the sea, trading law, and bring it ashore because there's no way that you can impose your will on the fine detail of people's lives through common law.
You can't do it. It doesn't allow it.
But under statute law, you can Make that do anything you like.
And so they brought the trading contract law ashore and overrode common law.
And this is the stuff coming out of government.
But if people only realized it, you know, statute law is a contractual law between corporations.
So all the governments and the courts, police forces, all of it, they're all private corporations.
When you say this to people, they say, nah, police are not a private corporation.
They are. Every single police force in Britain is a different private corporation.
Local councils are private corporations.
So is the government. So is the courts.
And the level of deceit, well, you know, you guys will know all this, but The level of deceit is shocking.
When you think that a corporation that you know nothing about is created in your name through your birth certificate, and that when the statute law system is interacting with you, it's not interacting with you.
It's interacting with this fictitious corporation they've created at the time of your birth certificate.
Because when you've got Corporate contract law, which is statute law, you have to create corporations.
That's why all the institutions are corporations, and that's why they've created this fictitious corporation under the name of people when they have a birth certificate.
Again, the deceit is so monumental.
When you explain this to people, they go, no, they'd never do that.
Well, they have done it. And just taking this on, especially, you know, these COVID laws.
These COVID laws are all statute law.
Well, a lot of them are not even that.
Recommendations which are policed as if they're statute law.
But when you start taking this on, again, it's being proactive.
You know, if every time someone is arrested for something that doesn't come under common law, which is do no harm, then If the police, every time they did it, were faced with this common law response, then again, the system would find that very difficult to deal with because the system's on the back foot with that.
I mean, most of the police officers don't know this, but the people that are deeper in the system know it, that actually the statute law cannot stand up to scrutiny.
In the way that it imposes itself on people.
And the more people push back with common law, the more this is going to be obvious.
And the more they're going to have to deal with it.
Now it's not just, oh, an easy ticket.
There you go. Another one.
Who's next? Now, actually, no, you've got to deal with a common law response to that ticket.
Oh, and by the way, you know this other ticket?
You were just about right. You've got to deal with a common law response to that as well.
I mean, this is what I mean by being proactive and running at the system, because the system has no power.
That's a myth. The system has no power.
The power the system appears to have is the power that the public gives to it.
We give our power away.
Well, most people give their power away to the system, which then recycles it back.
And at that point, people think the system has power, but it's our power that's being recycled back.
Because 8 billion people getting on for cannot be controlled by a relative handful.
Unless the power of the 8 billion is handed to the handful.
And that's what happens.
Why are you doing that, officer?
Why are you doing this? Well, because he told me.
Why did he tell you to do it?
Well, because he's superior.
And so we go on. That's a whole chain of power, handing power over, which allows the few to control the many.
It's got to stop. We really do have to get proactive in this and just say no and mean it.
Have you ever had the pleasure of being arrested and manhandled by the police at any event you've attended or received?
No, I've not.
No, I've not.
Maybe I will be at some point.
Have you ever had any threats or harassment from, like, any of the higher-level security services?
No, no, no.
I mean, the thing is that if anyone's followed my work, they'd know that not only would that have no effect, but I'd just run at them faster.
Because this is the point, you see.
I'll just go into something a bit deeper.
The cult plays the long game.
It has prepared for this COVID hoax over a very long period of time.
Everything was in place when the button was pressed.
Of course, they don't like surprises.
They're very insecure. There's this whole global cult behind all this.
Very, very insecure.
Secure people don't Censor people, kids in their back room, for saying there's a conspiracy.
It's not that they're all-powerful, it's that they are not all-powerful and they bloody well know it, and that's why they want to censor, so they can control information, because they know they're vulnerable, because their narrative in all this is a joke.
So if you If you look at their long game in the way they play it, massive preparation, we can have a long game of a different kind.
It's about self-identity in the end, and it's about a perception of who we are and the nature of life itself, the nature of the I. If you self-identify only with your labels, the labels of a human life, a very brief human life, very brief experiences with these labels, then the world looks a certain way.
And people in uniform can look intimidating and people in dark suits and all, oh, I've had this letter from the council.
Oh, really? Well, anybody got a bin?
But the...
The way that you look at the world from that point of view, what I call five sense mind, is everything can seem very intimidating.
It can seem very frightening. It can seem very bewildering.
And also these people seem to have power.
And the power that these people have over you is your fear of them.
Their power is your fear of their power, which is only your power recycled back.
But when you go to another level of awareness, you know, sitting cross-legged on a mountain here, anyone can do it.
It's just a choice. And you self-identify in another way, not with the labels of a human life, which are just experiences.
Yeah. But with the true I, which is consciousness, an eternal consciousness, expression of consciousness, exploring infinity infinitely, then the three score years and ten in a human life, they look very different.
And the people apparently in power look very different.
Because, okay, I'm all that is, has been and ever can be.
I'm having currently a brief experience called David Icke in a tiny band of frequency, almost laughably small, called Human Society.
Okay? But I am infinite.
And when this brief sojourn of focused attention, which is what it is, it comes to an end, then I'm going to go on exploring forever, forever.
So you in the yellow jacket, you might arrest me, right, for standing up for what I know to be right.
Well, do it then.
Do it! Because I ain't going to stop planning up for what I know to be right.
Because you don't intimidate me.
I'm all that is, has been, and ever can be, just like everyone else.
And so some bloke in a face nappy in a yellow jacket is almost irrelevant to me.
And what happens when you come into this self-identity?
With being consciousness and being a vastness of consciousness that's only limited by your own sense of limitation of your consciousness, then what you start doing is what you know to be right.
Not going through a series of possible consequences for doing what you know to be right.
Because once you start looking at the consequences...
I'm not saying consequences like walking in front of a truck.
I'm saying the consequences of doing what you know you should be doing, what you know to be right in those circumstances, then the consequences will give you a getaway car.
It will give the mind a getaway car not to do what you know to be right.
So I don't consider consequences in that sense.
If I feel that I need to do something, I need to say something, then I'll do it.
I'll say it. And the consequences will take care of themselves.
And what you tend to find with that is when you come into the power that we all have, you don't tend to get the consequences that people think you would get.
You know, we do create our own reality by our perceptions of reality.
And when you're fearful of authority, then you're making a connection with that authority, and you are making a frequency energetic attachment to it.
And so suddenly, the consequences you were fearful of, you get.
Yeah. Whereas if you're coming into your power and, you know, you look at this authority and instead of seeing this big, dark, powerful monster, you see a little boy in short trousers.
Because that's what I see.
When I look at Gates, I see a little boy in short trousers.
When I look at prime ministers and, well, I mean, bloody hell, Justin Trudeau.
Little boy in short trousers.
You know, a policeman will come up to you with a face nappy on and you think, excuse me, am I supposed to take you seriously?
What's going on?
The dynamic changes.
And that's another thing.
We need to laugh.
We need to laugh because this world is insane.
It's insane.
And what you can do Is get depressed by that and despair.
Or you can just laugh.
I mean, it's insane!
Hold on a minute.
You're wearing a face nappy, right?
And it's starving your brain of the oxygen it should be getting.
You're breathing in your own carbon dioxide, right?
You've got all that toxic shite in the mask against your face, which you're also breathing in.
You've got all the little fibers in the mask, which you're also breathing in.
Why are you wearing that mask?
Well, because I've been told I have to.
We are back again.
So why are you coming to me?
Well, because I've got to make you wear a mask.
What? No, you're a prat for wearing a mask.
You're not going to pass on your pratism to me.
I'm not accepting it.
I won't do it.
You know, it's breaking this circuit of imposition, acquiescence, imposition, acquiescence.
No! No!
Not acquiescing.
Not acquiescing.
So therefore, you cannot impose on me, okay, you can do this, that, that, but I'm still not going to do it.
Right. Now, David, I just finished your book here, The Answer.
I just wrapped up there a couple days ago.
Now, at the end of the book, there's some things that I think a lot of people should pay attention to.
You talk about the power of the heart.
Now, I'd like to tie that in with the consciousness.
The power of the heart, the heart vortex, and the human energetic field.
How can we harness this to change the world?
I think it goes with what you were just saying there about what we think we are and how we can not think through the brain, but from the heart.
Can you explain to our audience what you mean by that?
Yeah, funnily enough, I've been writing the last chapter of a new book I've just finished, and I've been writing about this today.
It's the way out of here.
And it actually includes many of the things I've just been talking about.
You know, we have, I mean, we'll talk about it another time, but, you know, the foundation of the body is an energetic field.
This is a holographic expression of that energetic field, but it's a field of information in its base form.
And within that field and interpenetrating different levels of that field are these vortexes which they call in the east chakras or wheels of light.
And they are connecting us to the greater reality.
And the key one is the heart.
You know, you see, of course, the physical heart Constantly symbolizing love.
But that's because a material society sees everything in material terms.
But it's not the physical heart from where we express love.
It's the spiritual heart, the heart vortex.
That's why we feel love, compassion, and all these things here in the center of the chest.
And it's why, by the way, we have this real pandemic of heart disease because of the interaction between the heart vortex and the heart.
This cult, for reasons I'm going to come to, wants to shut the heart down.
Because you've got all these vortex connections to the greater reality.
But this is the big one.
And when this is shut down, then perception moves to the head and to the gut emotion.
And if you look at most humans who operate in a five-sense bubble, because that's what they've been manipulated to do, they are head people and they are emotion people.
And that is the way that they process experience, process life.
But then you get heart people.
Anyone can be a heart person. They can do it any time they choose.
Do it today. Where this is open.
And for me, The greater consciousness that is the true I is experiencing this tiny band of frequency through the five sense mind.
The five sense mind is the experience directly.
We interact with this world.
But the greater consciousness is observing.
And I've used the An analogy of the computer, the five-sense mind, and the person sitting at the keyboard, the greater consciousness, and they're supposed to interact.
We're supposed to be in this world, but not entirely of it while we're having a human experience.
What this cult, because this is some of the knowledge, the key knowledge that's passed on through the secret society network and kept from the public, This cult wants to disconnect the five-sense level of experiencing from the greater consciousness.
Basically, what it's doing is isolating five-sense mind from the big picture, the radar, mission control.
Once it's isolated, I see it like a bubble.
Then it controls the information that the isolated consciousness receives to form perceptions.
So you get people who are all that is, has been, and ever can be, who think they're Ethel on the checkout.
And Bill driving the bus.
That's all I am.
I'm just Bill driving the bus.
I've got no power. No, no.
That's your experience. What you are is infinity, ultimately, having that experience.
But if you're going to control billions of people, you don't want them aware of their true self and the true nature of reality.
You want them isolated.
I mean, isolated, isolated.
This is the word that comes up again and again.
What has this COVID thing been all about?
Isolating people.
So, this...
It takes us out of the bubble.
This is our big connection to out there and the greater self.
And for me, the true self, this infinite I, during a human experience through the five sense mind, that real self sits here.
And it can express itself When the heart is open, when the vortex is open.
Or it can sit there behind a firewall of being ignored because the mind and the emotions, the head and the belly are in control of perception, which is what the cult wants.
But when you open this, everything starts to change.
In so many ways.
First of all, you...
You start to realize that your life is starting to change.
Suddenly, you've got more synchronicity in your life.
You start to notice more and more coincidences where you're kind of in the right place at the right time, meeting the right people.
I mean, you know, all these books on the shelf here that I've written, I couldn't have written them coming only from here.
I couldn't have written them as David Icke, born in Leicester, England in 1952.
It's synchronicity.
That for the last 30 years has put me in the right place at the right time with the right people and the right experiences and the right books and the right documents and the right whistleblowers.
This is how it's worked.
It's like being walking through a maze with some force opening and closing the doors to direct you down the maze so you can find where you need to go.
And that comes from here.
This has been my antenna all these years.
It's my arbiter of truth.
So, you know, I'll look at something or some information or some situation and this will tell me this is true.
No, this is not true.
This is my antenna. It has been for 30 years.
Because when you think about it, when we say I'm thinking, If you were going to point somewhere when you were saying, I'm thinking, you'd point here.
Look, I'm thinking, I'm thinking.
But where do your hands go when you say, I know, I just know, it goes here.
I know, I just know.
Where does intuition come from?
What is intuition? It's knowing.
See, an intuitive knowing does not come from a process of, or a sequence of thought.
Where you work it out.
The brain works it out or tries to work it out because it doesn't know.
So it has to try to work it out.
This is connected to that level of awareness that does know.
So your intuitive knowing doesn't come from a sequence of thought working it out.
It comes as one package.
I just know. You see the picture.
I just know. And so...
You find yourself becoming more and more intuitive in that way.
You find yourself getting more and more insights and awareness and knowings because you're starting to connect with that level that does know.
And again, going back to, because this all syncs to what I said earlier about expanded consciousness.
The heart is where we express love and not, you know, the law of attraction.
I mean, you can be attracted to another human being and that can be part of love.
But if it's only attraction, it's not got an infinite life because it's just attraction.
When the attraction starts to break down, the magnetic connection breaks down, then it's gone.
But This love, which just says, I love you unconditionally, that connection is infinite.
Because it's without condition.
Once you have love with condition, which is not love at all, those conditions are not met, gone.
But when you've got this connection, which is not...
It has no...
Conditions. Then whatever happens, this is still there.
It's like that great phrase about friendship.
Real friendship is true love, actually.
Real friendship is a much greater love, from what I'm talking about, than some fierce attraction for a man or a woman.
Because that great line, a friend is someone that walks into the room when everyone else is walking out.
That's unconditional love.
And it's an infinite connection because without conditions it has to be.
And so love is also, this heart love is also crucially in terms of where we are now.
It does not have fear.
Just as, in my opinion anyway, evil is the absence of love.
Love is the absence of fear.
And so this is that part of us that will say, I do what I know to be right.
And To consider consequences for doing what you know to be right is to consider not doing what you know to be right.
And that's not an option for the heart.
This keeps saying the heart.
It's the point of connection, but it's expanded consciousness.
It will always do what it knows to be right.
It's not right on a very simple level.
It's not right to wear a bloody face nappy.
This is being done to enslave me and to dehumanize me and all these things.
It's not right to do it.
I ain't bloody doing it under any circumstances.
It's the heart Heart energy that's going to transform this.
Because this is terrified.
This is terrified. This doesn't know fear.
This is what's going to turn this around.
Yeah, absolutely. Now, recently I've seen people like Jeff Bezos as well as other prominent CEOs of companies stepping down from their positions at this time.
Is this interlinked with what's going on and why do you think they're choosing this period of time to step down from these high ranking positions?
Well, I don't know, but, you know, there's a massive movement around of personnel at the moment.
There's not just massive changes going on for people, there's massive changes going on in the way they're structuring society.
So, I think, I mean, of course, I've gone on for decades about the nature of the British royal family.
And how they are fundamentally connected to this cult.
You've only got to look at the British royal family, like the Queen.
Completely emotionless, automaton-type mentality.
You know, I remember as a kid, you know, you'd watch the Queen in black and white, walking down the steps of some plane coming back from some foreign visit, and all the dignitaries would be bloody lined up, and in among the dignitaries was a young kid called Prince Charles, and she would shake his bloody hand.
You know, it was unbelievable.
These people are very, very strange.
They're like computer programs.
So I had no problem with the British royal family being part of this, but we're now entering a new situation of great transformation, and things that have served the cult up to this point very, very well, like royalty and such like, And now, I think, on the brink of disappearing as a completely reset, a completely new society appears in which that will not be part in the way that it is at the moment.
And it's related to the targeting of Western society.
Western society is being targeted for total transformation and destruction.
And this explains three things.
One, why white people are being targeted.
Once you see a situation where you can say what you like about white people, but you can't say it about other racial groups, you know that there's something going on here.
So why are they targeting white people?
Well, white people are the biggest racial group in the Western world.
So therefore, if you're going to try to undermine Western society, you don't target the smallest group.
You target the major group.
This is why they're targeting Christianity.
Again, it's exactly the same.
You can say what you like about Christianity.
It doesn't matter. There's no political correctness for Christianity.
And I'm not a Christian. But any other religion, it's, oh no, that's not possible to criticize them.
You're just a bigot. But then you look, well, why is this?
Well, if you look at Western society, because of the way that it has, through history, formed and developed, it's formed and developed under Christian rules.
I know Christianity is now not what it was, but for a long time it was the key thing that held society together.
So the institutions and the way it works are all kind of intertwined with the Christian religion and the Christian church.
So if you want to destroy Western society, then you want to pull the The key bricks out of it, so the war falls, then you're going to target Christianity, because that's one of the things that's weaned through Western society.
And if you look at Britain and Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Commonwealth in general, so much of that, especially in Britain, The institutions of state and the way the whole thing works, the royal family and royalty is weaved through it.
So we don't have a government of people in Britain, we have Her Majesty's government.
We don't have an opposition to Her Majesty's government, we have Her Majesty's most loyal opposition.
Justin Trudeau takes an oath to the Queen.
Foreign office, right?
If you want to destroy the whole structure of British society, say, but it goes out into the Commonwealth, then you pull the royal family out.
Because they've served their purpose and all that stuff, but now we're going into something different.
So you've got... A situation now where the Queen is up into her 90s.
You've got Prince Philip.
He must be the best part of 100 now.
You've got Charles, who's very unpopular.
He's kind of in his 70s and stuff.
And then you've got this lady from America, Meghan Markle, and this guy she's got in tow.
Like a nodding dog, Prince Harry.
And they're throwing barbs now at the royal family.
And when the Queen's gone, it'd just be Charles, but basically, what's left?
You've got Prince William and his wife, and then you've got a big gap to their children.
And basically, when the Queen and Prince Philip's gone, there's basically no royal family left, if you look at it.
And I think that the undermining of Christianity, the undermining of the white people, and the undermining of the royal family as well, increasingly, are all connected to this dismantling, this total dismantling of Western society, which has been part of the cult plan for a long time.
And what's happening on the southern border now Where there's, you know, ridiculous numbers of people just walking across illegally and just being released, even if they're picked up, which Biden policies and Biden statements have encouraged.
You're looking again at this effort to dismantle Western society.
The same in Europe.
So it's no surprise that people like George Soros are major funders of all this.
This is what they're doing.
American society, the big powerful The country, the superpower, it's being so fast unraveled.
And something I've been warning about for a very long time, the power is now moving to China.
I'm just going to ask you about that.
Yeah. Well, you see, this is a big part of this story.
China is...
Is a big part of the story.
Because what we've seen since this COVID hoax was played is the West becoming more and more and more like China.
That's what's happened.
And it's a plan.
And it's been planned. This global cult, which is a centrally coordinated and controlled global network of secret societies and satanic groups, etc., That's driving all this.
They were behind the Mao revolution in China because what they were setting up was a society that was so controlled that they could incubate The global society that they wanted to introduce and they could hone it and increasingly, because this is what global society is meant to be controlled by, they could move it to a situation where technology was the foundation of all control.
So you have the social credit system now in China, where you do what the government wants and you get credits, you don't do what the government wants, even down to the fine detail of your choices, then you lose credits and you lose enough credits or you get banned from flying, get banned from going on a train, etc.
COVID passports, vaccine passports.
What the hell is that? It's the social credit system of China, right?
So, they incubated this system of control in China.
I mean, I've seen documentaries where they've put someone on the street as part of a test, and the authorities have found them in like two or three minutes.
Through the technology. All the, you know, the iris stuff and what have you.
And so they created that.
And what they've done since the COVID hoax, which played out at China, not the virus, the hoax, they've transferred the Chinese model into the West and further afield, but particularly in the West.
And it's all been planned.
And you look at China, and China's got enormous influence now in Africa and other places.
Well, actually, a fantastic amount of America's debt is owed to China.
And that's the point of power that we're moving towards.
Israel's massively connected with that as well.
Yeah, for sure. You were talking about Biden there, and I just wanted to ask you before we go on that.
Do you think that Biden is going to make it through his term in office?
Just the way we see him, he's stumbling his words.
He's stumbling, literally stumbling physically.
He seems like he's got dementia.
And do you see Kamala Harris taking over his role as president at some point?
I think there's a very, very good chance that that was the plan all along, of course.
Yes. See, because of, again, COVID, the con that keeps on giving, they were able to keep him out of sight, basically.
It was extraordinary during the election campaign.
Yeah. And, you know, personally, I don't believe the election result.
I just don't believe it.
But anyway, he's officially president.
He's obviously got massive cognitive problems, and they're obviously getting worse.
I mean, the first press conference he did after this massive wait for a press conference the other day, I mean, it was embarrassing.
And, you know, he's falling up the stairs going on to Air Force One, not just once, but three times.
And he's obviously got cognitive problems.
And there's a number of levels to this.
One is, you know, the fact that they could get him in, in that situation.
And, you know, when you see this press conference, and you think it's four years to go yet, you can't...
Much as they control the administration and much as they control the media, you can't see him going through four years.
I mean, he's basically a laughingstock now.
So I think there was a very good chance that he was used to get in.
I don't think Kamala Harris would have been elected.
I mean, you look at her when she was running for the Democrat nomination.
She was out virtually from the start.
No one wanted to know her because she's not a very likable character and certainly a very untrustworthy one.
So I think there's a very good chance that that will happen.
But there's another level of this, too.
If you are setting out to destroy a society, then it's key that you destroy the society psychologically.
You destroy the self-respect of the society.
You destroy respect for a society.
And if you've got, you know, someone in the White House who's strong and just and fair, then that is going to generate respect for the society that they are the president of.
But the opposite's the case when you have 330 million people, actually, A hell of a lot more, illegally.
And the person out of those 330 million and more that becomes president is a guy that stops in the middle of a sentence because he can't remember what he's saying.
Now, that's going to, whether subconsciously or consciously too, Is going to destroy respect and self-respect for being American.
Because the world's laughing at Biden now.
This cult wants them to laugh at him.
Because they are destroying the respect and self-respect for American society.
Which dilutes resistance to its dismantling.
You know, if you have a society and people are really respectful of it and care about it in the sense of, you know, this is America and we love America and what America's doing, the way it works, and we've got a great president here, you're going to resist that society being dismantled.
But they're breaking people down psychologically.
It's what the COVID thing is all about.
America's laughing stock.
I mean, it was bad enough during Bush, Boy George Bush.
Yeah, we didn't think it could get any worse than Bush, but I guess we were wrong.
It's kind of funny because they're playing the same game again, but to a greater extreme.
Because, you know, Boy Bush was just an idiot.
And they wanted to see he was an idiot.
Because... Cheney was running the show anyway, but they wanted that.
Hey, we've got so much power, right?
We can put an idiot in the presidency and you will vote for him, right?
Whether he won Florida is another thing.
But then they go even deeper.
And they say, you know, we've got so much control, we can put someone with dementia in the frickin' White House!
And there's nothing you can do about it.
And this is all psychology, because at the end of the day, this is what it's all about.
You control billions of people by controlling their perception, which controls their behavior.
And, you know, if you look at this COVID thing, You can see exactly the same process.
Because the COVID rules and regulations are not being driven by medicine, health, being driven by psychologists.
Psychologists are coming up with the masks and where they should be worn and when and how long.
They're coming up with the social distancing and all this business.
It's the psychologists that are doing it.
Provable fact. And if you...
If you don't have self-respect, we'll come back to that again.
If you don't have personal self-respect, then you're not going to resist tyranny.
If you look at every tyranny that's been brought down in human history, it's been brought down by people with self-respect who said, I'm not having it.
We're not having it. We're not taking this.
That's self-respect. But if you can delete self-respect, all that's left is submission.
And one of the things that's going on in terms of this Is, you know, if you look at it from a certain angle, people have not researched this, they'll say, look, these bloody governments, they're bloody stupid.
These bloody rules, they make no sense.
You know, look at all the contradictions.
And they want us to do this, and they want us to do that.
You know, these anal swabs in China for freaking COVID, that's all about destroying self-respect.
That's what it's about.
Because they know if they can destroy self-respect, all they've got is submission left.
So the point is that at the level of these psychologists and that which is deciding all this and driving all this, they want you to see The rules are nonsense.
They want you to see that they are contradictory and make no sense.
Because if they can get you to see it and you still do it, coming back to what we said earlier, then your self-respect's been deleted.
Because people with self-respect do not do just because some prat in a dark suit tells them What they can see is a nonsense.
And I went to a dentist just down the road here.
I have a dentist. And I turn up after a long period of, you know, not being open.
And I said, I walked in.
And the person walked towards me, the girl.
They're all very nice, but I walked in the door, right at the door.
Not in the waiting room, right at the door.
Can you wash your hands in the sanitiser?
I'm just going for a hygienist thing, which is only about like 10 yards away to her door.
So she said, can you sanitise your hands?
I said, no, I'm not doing it. They said, well, here's the mask.
You've got to wear a mask. I've got to wear a mask to walk 10 freaking yards to go to a door where I take the mask off, otherwise you can't do me teeth.
I said, that is ridiculous.
I'm not doing it.
And so it was like, they said, well, all right.
All right. And then they said, oh, so I've just got to take your temperature.
One of these things. I said, you're not doing it.
I said, you're not doing it.
Oh, well, it's the rules.
You know, we've got to take your temperature.
I said, well, I'm out of here then.
And I turned and walked away.
Now, you see, going back to what I said earlier, some people might say, well, you know, just have your temperature taken.
Go and get your teeth done.
No. No.
Because that's ridiculous, right?
And I don't do ridiculous, otherwise I become ridiculous.
And again, something else I mentioned earlier, what tends to happen is if you stand a principle, call it what you like, I'm not having it, things tend to happen as a result of that, that energy. So, within no time, synchronicity, I found a dentist.
Don't do any of that crap. There you go.
Which is good. That's what you want.
I believe that wholeheartedly.
I would not have come across this dentist unless I'd have said no to the other one.
I'm not doing it because I'm not conceding my self-respect to a bunch of crap.
Yeah. This is what I mean by not compromising with tyranny, not compromising with ridiculous either.
No, that's it. Can I ask you what your gut feeling is on cryptocurrencies?
Is this the smart way to get people excited about a digital fiat currency, which the plan is to replace the current system with after the crash?
I think so. Yeah, and I've actually been saying that for some years.
I've not done the cryptocurrency.
I know there's a lot of the cryptocurrency in the alternative media, and they love it.
And a lot of people have made a lot of, well, crypto money out of it.
And if I'd have gone early when it all started, I'd be worth a fortune now in crypto money.
But I didn't.
I didn't because I felt it was leading somewhere.
It was leading somewhere that genuine people in the alternative that went with it didn't see that.
And I thought, no, this is...
We're back here. This is leading somewhere and it's not good.
And now, of course, it's the blockchain stuff and all that stuff, the crypto stuff.
There's a story on davidite.com today about the investment in this stuff that's been made by George Soros.
Yeah. It's part of this whole great reset control of everything, where actually the human body becomes part of the financial system.
And so I've never gone there, and I'm glad I didn't.
And the social credits will probably be all part of that as well.
It could be related to, if you don't do what you're told, you don't have access to the money, which means you can't buy the food, the whole thing.
That's the idea. That's the idea.
But, you know, something here.
If I was coming from here now, I'd say it was over.
Yeah. But coming from here, I know it's not.
Yeah. Yeah.
So I know we're getting pressed for time here.
We're going to probably start to wind things down, David.
But before we go, is there anything that you'd like to promote or any kind of message that you'd like to convey to our audience before we leave?
Well, not promote, but I... I think it's important that people face the scale of what we're looking at.
This script is planned to get more and more severe.
And when are we going to look it in the eye and wait for it to blink?
You know, now or further down the road when more control systems are in place.
And it's one of the things going on from what I've just said that they are trying to persuade you of is that resistance is futile.
There's nothing you can do about it.
This is something I'm hearing more and more.
We had a columnist in Britain called Peter Hitchens on the Mail on Sunday.
And he's been very forthright since March last year, talking about the ludicrous, self-destructive nature of lockdown.
And, you know, good luck to him.
But then he came out about three weeks ago, maybe, and said, I've had the vaccine.
He said, I've had the vaccine because I want to go and visit the family abroad.
And I know that vaccine passports are going to be brought in.
Nothing we can do about it.
And therefore, I've had it even before they bring them in so that I can go and see my family.
Well, what he was basically saying was resistance is futile.
But that's what we want us to believe.
Even at this stage, it's not.
It's not. But we can't pussyfoot around.
We've got to start getting proactive.
And we've got to start running at this system.
And crucially, we've got to stop cooperating with it on a mass scale.
Because it can't function without us.
It's not possible. Yeah.
It's time to grow a backbone for those that are intimidated into doing anything and say, no means no, I'm not doing it.
With him getting the vaccine there, what do you think the vaccines will do eventually to all their willing participants?
Well, I know what they plan to do.
I've been saying it before they came along.
They want to change the human body from a biological state to a synthetic biological state, while synthetic biology is a massively expanding area of science now.
And this synthetic material they're putting into the cells, tricking the cells into letting it in, is designed to change the nature of the human body.
Will one vaccine change the human body?
No, of course not. But first of all, this synthetic material is self-replicating.
So once it gets in the body, it increases in number because it's self-replicating.
And as I said months ago, this so-called COVID vaccine is not going to be one.
And then soon after that, they said, well, you're going to have to have two.
But it's meant just to continue.
So we've had the announcement that over 70s are going to get a booster.
So many over 70s are dead now because of the vaccine.
I mean, unbelievable numbers.
And the people that I know of in my community, and I live on an island just off the south coast of England, What it must be like worldwide.
I mean, the numbers must be unbelievable.
I mean, we had a whistleblower nurse at one care hub who went on the internet and said, you know, No one had, quote, COVID in this nursing home all the way through 2020.
And the moment they started giving the vaccine, in his words, they were going down like flies.
Not with COVID, but with various things caused by the vaccine.
And if people say it was a coincidence, well, it's a hell of a coincidence, but there's another thing.
He was saying those that didn't have the vaccine weren't dying.
So, I mean, talk about a cause and effect.
And so you've got the immediate response, which is killing and maiming a lot of people.
But then you've got the longer-term response, which is this self-replicating material, which is being added to all the time.
Because the idea is that not only do you have constant COVID vaccines, As this cumulative transformation of the body takes place, but they take all these other vaccines and they turn them into mRNA.
And when you look at mRNA, which is not actually a vaccine, what does M stand for?
It stands for messenger, messenger RNA. What is the body?
It's an information field where Messages, communications are constantly being interacted.
Whether the genetic structure is communicating with the brain, the brain is communicating with the genetic structure.
And it's a massive field of information interaction.
And the body looks like it does because of that information and that communication.
And the body is biological because of that field of information and that messaging of that information.
So you change the messaging, you start to introduce synthetic material, change the messaging, you change the body.
You know, these people are saying, oh no, don't change DNA. Well, hold on a minute.
Yes, it does.
Because the messaging is communicating with DNA. And DNA is a receiver transmitter of information.
And so you change the information, you change DNA. You know, that is the way it works.
Messenger gives the whole thing away.
And you had the Moderna chief bloke, scientist bloke, who described the Moderna vaccine, alleged vaccine, as an operating system.
That's what he called it. He said it's an operating system.
That's what it is.
They see the body as like a computer.
I've been calling the body since the 90s a biological computer.
They want to make it a synthetic biological computer, which will transform its nature.
The brain is processing information.
You change the messaging Going around the body, and you change the brain.
Because, I mean, there's this thing called brain placidity, where they thought the brain, once it was formed, that was it for life.
Now they know that the opposite is the case.
That the brain is changing the way it processes information by the nature of the information that it receives.
Brain placidity.
So you change the messaging going around the body and you're affecting the brain.
And one of the key areas that even on a quote physical level where people are having reactions to this, really serious reactions to these vaccines is the brain with blood clots, seizures and strokes.
You know, I've come across some information today about The increase in strokes that are being taken hospital.
And they've had the vaccine.
So we are looking at a whole new human cumulatively with all these things.
And because of that, that's why they're desperate for everyone to have it.
I mean, if you just break it down, I say there is no.
I say there is no virus.
I said that last March, April, and all I've seen is confirmation of it ever since.
But say there is.
The number of people, even by their unbelievably manipulative figures, The ratio of people who go from so-called infection to fatality is tiny.
So why the hell would you want to go through all this rigmarole?
Vaccinating the world for something like that.
Why would you go through lockdown and all that stuff?
Because the vaccine is not about, quote, COVID. It's nothing to do with it.
It's what I'm talking about.
And so you have this, again, massive contradiction between vaccinating the world and something that's It's hardly touching people if you really go beyond the manipulated figures.
I say it's not touching people at all.
That's why flu's disappeared. It's been redesignated COVID-19.
So it makes no sense.
And one of the things that's very clear, you know, I've been doing this for 30 years, is when something makes no sense, it's because there's another reason for it.
And that's why the reason for this vaccine is to change the nature of the human body.
And if you're an old person, And your immune system's starting to go and your body's weak.
You stick this synthetic material, which is then, through what they call the Trojan horse technique, the cell is tripped to take it in.
Well, it ain't gonna end well, is it?
And, you know, the number of old people that have been killed by lockdown And buy this vaccine.
And now they're going to give them another one in September, over 70s.
Madness. But there's method in the madness.
And they want a cull of...
We're watching a cull of old people.
A systematic cull.
And it's funny enough that there's an interview I did In 2009, which is going around the internet at the moment, someone's put it on Twitter.
I just posted it today to our group, Chris.
Oh, cool. Yeah, from Twitter, yeah.
Yeah, but I mentioned there, in 2009, the plan to cull old people.
We're freaking here! Yeah, I think at the end it says, Ike was right.
Yeah, but this is another thing, you know, how did I know this was coming?
How did Orwell? How did Huxley?
Of course, it's not random.
When I keep saying, I said this and so-and-so, I said this and so-and-so, it's not to say, oh, look at me.
It's to say, look, if I knew it then...
It's got to be planned.
It's not random what's going on.
Another guy that we actually interviewed a couple weeks ago, Harry Vox.
I don't know if you're familiar with Harry from New York and the States.
He did the same thing.
He had a video in 2014.
He had the Rockefeller document right in front of him, and he read it to this guy in the interview.
He said, this is exactly what they're going to do.
And he was 100% right.
Yeah. By the way, Harry, if you're listening, Harry actually wants to get a hold of you, David.
I don't know if...
Anyway, Harry, I put it out there to David anyway, so if you're watching.
Thanks a lot. This is the whole point.
It's planned, and if it's planned, then someone's planned it.
And if someone's planned it, they obviously don't have...
A great agenda for humanity, given what they're planning.
And so, you know, the idea that this is all random, some people still believe it, is insane.
Right, yeah. Now you're writing this new book, David.
When are you looking to bring that out?
What's the title of the new book?
Soon as possible. I started it in January.
I just finished it. I finished it today.
So we're going to get it out as fast as possible.
Definitely, definitely this summer.
Because there's a specific reason for writing it.
You know, over the last year, there has been an enormous number of people who have...
Realize, because of events, effects on their lives, and just seeing this world go crazy, who've realized there's something going on here and it's not good.
But what? So I wrote this book to...
To answer the what and the why and the who between two covers.
It's a very crisply written book.
Very smaller than the kind of doorstoppers that I've done.
Smaller than this one? Very much smaller than that one.
But the thing is, you know, people, they look at the books and say, God, that's a big book.
And then they'll say, if you say something like in a video, they'll say, always your bloody evidence.
And you say, there it is.
So that's why I've done it.
I've done books like that. But this one's really crisp and it's like, what's going on?
What's going on? You read it in two days, maximum.
And that's why I've done it.
Because I think once people...
See the picture, the world, they'll read the world in a completely different way.
They'll see why that's happening.
They'll see why that's happening.
I think it's a useful contribution and that's why I've written it to get it out as fast as possible.
Do you have a title for it yet?
It's called Deceptions of a Renegade Mind.
Oh, wow. Sounds good. There you go.
Right on here first. But I think we're going to wrap things up, David.
I mean, it's been a fascinating conversation as always.
And we're so gracious that we're so glad that you were willing to take the time to speak with us again.
And we really appreciate it.
But so do you have anything further for David before we go, Chris, before we wrap it up?
No, it's been great catching up again, you know, between yourself and Gareth.
And the work that everyone's doing.
And, you know, we really appreciate you keeping in touch with us and talking to us over the time in between.
You know, just keep doing the work.
We'll keep doing our work at this end.
And I think together we're going to eventually have people realize what's going on around them.
I don't think we can save everyone, but I'm really determined to try and help as many people as possible.
Yeah, we've just got to turn seeing it into ceasing to cooperate with it, and then we'll start making inroads into it.
And come from here?
Oh, big time.
If you come from anywhere else, they'll have you for breakfast.
Yeah, yeah. I think that's a great way to end it.
Thanks again, David. We appreciate it as always.
Like we say here, love one another, believe nothing, and question everything.
That's a wrap for now. Thank you.
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