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March 15, 2021 - David Icke
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David Icke talks with Simone Smith on the Awakening World Truth Summit
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So, let's get started.
How are you?
I was just going to say, you got what I just said, but I said you're always my friend,
Of course you are. I appreciate it.
And what you're doing is phenomenally important.
And congratulations to everyone involved.
You know what I noticed, Dave?
We're both wearing black today.
Are we? Yes, I suppose.
But it's a very hot day.
I'll tell you why I'm wearing black.
It's not some colour decision.
For England, it's a very hot day today.
And if I put a shirt on that's light, then I start sweating through it.
So I put black on so you can't see me sweat.
It's so good to have you here.
I've been following, obviously, I always follow what you do.
And actually, the last video I watched was this morning, and it was the show that you did with Alex Jones.
And there's a few things in there that I have two to three pages, as usual, of questions for you.
But something struck me.
Closer to the end of your interview, you actually started to speak about your awakening.
And I think I really want people to have an understanding as to why you've chosen this route in your life, why you've chosen, and actually why it chose you, because your story is very interesting.
And I want to note something.
A prophet is never, ever accepted in his home.
He's made fun of, he'll be spoken about, he'll be chastised.
But it's for some reason that prophet who's always speaking the truth, always foreseeing, foretelling.
And that's what you've become in a way.
So let's start there.
Let's talk about your awakening and why you were chosen to do this.
Well, why I ended up doing it, I'll probably find out in more detail when I'm out of here.
Why did I do that?
Sometimes I've got this picture of a long line of people in another dimension and they asked for volunteers to come here.
And when they did, everyone else took a step back and I was standing there, you know.
And Alex Jones was standing down the line there, you know.
And so why...
It's obvious from my life and the things that have happened in my life that I have come to do this.
I look back at my life before I consciously started this journey, which was 1990.
And I look back and I look at all the things that I needed to understand and to be any good at.
In the years since 1990.
And I look back at my life and I started out as a footballer, soccer player.
But very early on, like six months into my time as a soccer player, my left knee swelled up for no apparent reason.
These different joints then just followed.
And I played professional football.
I was a goalkeeper until I was 21 and with increasing pain.
And in the last season that I played, every morning was agony.
I couldn't tell the club that I had rheumatoid arthritis because then I've got another goalkeeper.
So I played.
I played on and every morning it was agony when you're warming up for training, especially on cold English mornings.
But that triggered something in me.
It triggered a fierce determination not to give in.
And I played professional football for many, many years when I should not have been playing, but I wasn't going to give up.
And then when I was a kid, I was obviously interested in football, but I was also interested in journalism.
I used to read lots of papers.
And so when my career finished, I decided that I wanted to go into journalism.
And I set my target on presenting a well-known in those days, it's gone now, BBC television sports program called Grandstand.
And it was a ridiculous thing.
I was 21.
I had arthritis in most of my joints.
And it was ridiculous.
But I had this fierce determination trigger that I wasn't going to give in.
My God, has that been important in the last 30 years.
And so I eventually come into television, into journalism, into newspapers, radio and television.
And then I moved into green politics.
Now what green politics, and of course I didn't know what was coming, but something did.
And I went into green politics and I started to understand how politics works, which is it doesn't.
And how it's a farce.
And it's not about overwhelmingly looking out at what is necessary for the people you're supposed to represent.
It's petty squabbles and inter-party squabbles.
It's just a silly game.
And then, of course, came the...
The massive transformation that put me on the road that I've been now for these three decades.
And that was the year of 1989.
When suddenly, when I was in a room alone, it didn't feel like I was alone.
It felt like there was a presence there.
So I carried on presenting programmes for the BBC and representing the Green Party through 1989, when the Green Party had a massive success in an election for the European Union.
But what was happening through 1989 and into early 1990 was this presence was getting more and more powerful.
And it ended up with me in early March 1990 sitting on a bed in an empty hotel room just down from the BBC where I've been working.
And I set out into the room because the presence was so tangible.
Would you contact me because you're driving me up the wall?
Is there something there?
Contact me. So a few days later, I'm about 10 minutes from where I'm sitting now with my son, Gareth, who was a little boy then.
He's a big strapping fella now.
And he was looking at some books, actually steam train books, we both like steam trains, in a newsagent shop, which is still there.
And I stood at the door and I said to him, come on, Gareth, we'll go and get some lunch in the town.
And as I said that, it was like my feet were, and remember, this is all new to me at the time, it was like my feet were stuck to the ground, like magnets rolled my feet to the ground.
And the atmosphere around me changed, which I didn't understand at the time, but now I know it was an electromagnetic field.
And I didn't hear a voice, but I heard a very strong thought form go through my head, which said, go and look at the books on the far side.
And the books on the far side, I knew them.
They were romantic novels.
Often by a writer called Barbara Cartland and Mills and Boone was one of the publishers.
It's not my scene.
So I thought, go look at the books on the far side.
So I walk over and in among all those books, as usual, was one.
They had a woman's face on the front.
And it was called Mind to Mind.
And I turned it over, picked it up because it was different to all the others, and on the back I saw the blurb, and it mentioned the word psychic.
It was by a lady called Betty Shine, who was a professional psychic, and it was a book about her life.
So I took it home and read it.
I'll pay for it. I took it home and read it in 24 hours.
And I thought, because my instant reaction when I saw Psychic was, I wonder if this lady will be able to pick up what I've been feeling for the last year.
So I go home, I read the book, and I contact her.
And I didn't tell her anything, you know, what was happening to me about the presence or anything.
I just told her I had arthritis and she did like Reiki healing as well.
So I said maybe you could, you know, your healing might help me.
So that's all I told her, nothing else.
So I went over, went a couple of times, had a nice chat, you know, a bit of healing and all that stuff.
Then I went the third time.
And I'm sitting on a medical-type bench in her front room, and suddenly I felt like a spider's web on my face.
And she was, you know, on the side working on my left knee, which is that knee that went first when I was 15 and a half.
So I read in her book that when other levels of reality are trying to lock into you and communicate with you, you sometimes feel a spider's web on your face.
That kind of really struck me.
I thought, I read this in a book.
I never said anything to her. But about 15 to 10, 15 seconds later, as I'm pondering on what's going on, she launches her head back and she said, my God, this is powerful.
I've got to close my eyes for this one.
And she said she was seeing a vision of a figure in her mind who was saying that she needed to communicate information to.
So I'm sitting there and my backside is slipping down the bench like, you know, what have you got yourself into here, Aiki?
And then she started that I was going to go out.
This is March 1990, towards the end of March 1990.
That I was going to go out on a world stage and reveal great secrets.
That one man cannot change the world but one man can communicate the message that can change the world.
That I would face enormous opposition but they would always be there to protect me.
And that from this point I would be led to knowledge and at other times knowledge would be put into my mind.
And, you know, I should have been sitting there, Simone, and I should have been saying as, you know, the regular guys, they say, what a load of nonsense.
But something here, something here said, go for it.
There's something in this. So I went for it.
And from the moment I left her home that day, and a week later, a lot of other things happened that were similar.
It started. I suddenly found that my life was a synchronistic journey of walking into information.
I would walk into personal experience.
I would walk into books. I would walk into documents.
I'd walk into whistleblowers.
I'd walk into people who knew things.
And it was like some force was handing me puzzle pieces in a jigsaw puzzle.
And not only that, it was pretty close to the order that I needed to understand it.
And so it went through a series of phases.
First of all, the first few years after 1990, It was about the fact that the world's not controlled by the forces that people think it is.
Then it moved into the fact that there is a non-human force behind it towards the kind of mid-late 90s and then it moved into Deep esoteric stuff about the fact that this reality is actually an illusion in terms of its physicality.
And that it's pretty much like a virtual reality that we are experiencing very much along the lines of actually the Matrix movies.
And when the Matrix movies came along, it was a godsend for me.
I don't know what was behind them and why they did them, but it was a godsend to me because suddenly I had a visual representation.
Representation, yeah.
I was understanding.
So that was basically it.
I'll just tell you this one story.
There was an amazing point where my life did kind of change quite dramatically.
And that was when I left Betty Shine's front room.
For the last time, I saw about four times in all.
Suddenly, my life changed, and this synchronistic whole thing started.
And the BBC, I was very young for what I did.
Most of the people that did the job that I did were, you know, decades older.
And I had many accommodations for my work and all that stuff.
But suddenly, out of nowhere, The BBC didn't renew my contract in the summer of 1990.
I have this phrase that life so often gives you your greatest gifts brilliantly disguised as your worst nightmare.
And you have, and this has happened to me many times, so I know it's true, that it seems to be a real bad thing, but actually it's what's necessary for what you're really here to do.
So I found myself in the summer of 1990 without any employment.
And I've just carried on with this journey.
What the heck is happening? And towards the end of 1990, when I finished the first book called Truth Vibrations, and maybe get into later, if we've got time, why it's called Truth Vibrations.
And I got this overwhelming feeling That I needed to go to Peru.
I mean, you know, what do I know about Peru at that time?
I knew they played in the World Cup.
I watched them play Scotland once.
But what else? But I had this feeling I had to go.
So I get on a plane.
I go to Peru. I go to Lima and then immediately to Cusco in the Andes.
And what followed over two, three weeks was an incredible synchronistic journey around the ancient sites and the power sites of Peru that was very transformative.
And I'm just leading to this particular moment.
I hired a Peruvian guy to take me around and where I wanted to go because I knew nothing about it, of course.
And we ended up in a place called Puno, which is Right on Lake Titicaca, the highest navigable lake in the world.
And he booked us, I had nothing to do with it, he booked us into a hotel called the Si Ustani.
And Si Ustani is an Inca site, just, you know, not a long drive outside of Puno.
And because, you know, it's called the Si Ustani, this hotel, there's pictures of this site all over the hotel, all the, you know, the ruins and stuff.
And I looked at one of the pictures when I got there and I was getting this, I've got to go here, I've got to go here, I've got to go here.
Very powerful, got to go here.
So the next day we go out to see Ustani and it's a beautiful place, beautiful.
And I enjoyed it.
I walked around for an hour and there were the ruins and there were mountains and it was beautiful and a lake.
When I'd been there an hour, I thought, well, it's beautiful, but being here doesn't match the power of you've got to go there.
So anyway, I get into this kind of taxi van thing with the driver and the guide.
I'm quite disappointed.
I think it was lovely, but...
What was that urge to come out here for?
So we start driving away.
And just down the road, literally minutes down the road, I'm looking out the window daydreaming, which I'm doing all the time.
And I looked at this hill and it was basically all I could hear in my head was, come to me, come to me, come to me.
And I'm thinking, well, you've absolutely flipped now, Ike.
You've flipped that fucking hill he's talking to you.
So I said, can you just stop the van a minute?
Because I need to go up that hill.
I won't be long. Well, I was over an hour because of what happened.
And I walked up the hill and there were stones all around, like all kind of, you know, stones all over the land.
And I went and stood in the middle of them.
And suddenly it was like the new shop again, only like hundreds of times greater in terms of its power.
I felt my feet start to get pulled to the ground.
And I felt like a drill going in the top of my head.
And then my arms went out at 45 degrees.
I made no decision to do that.
And I heard this very clear Again, thought form, almost a voice, which said, it will be over when you feel the rain.
The first line was, they'll be talking about this 100 years from now, it will be over when you feel the rain.
So I'm standing there feeling a right prat, looking up at a clear, as I am now through this window, a beautiful clear Peruvian sky and a big bright sun.
And I've just been told, it will be over when you feel the rain.
What? So anyway, this energy gets more and more powerful coming into the top of my head and another flow going the other way.
And I'm starting to shake with it.
And it was like when you're driving a car and you don't remember the last two miles.
Your subconscious has been driving the car, thank goodness.
It was like that.
I was going kind of In and out of conscious awareness, I would like almost go into a state of sleep, of not being in this world, and then suddenly I was back again.
And then one of these times, this must have happened over about 45 minutes, maybe a bit longer.
One of the times I came back, I noticed that over the distant mountains, there was a light gray mist.
And as I watched it, and this happened really fast, I mean, you know, if you put this, what was about to happen in a movie, they'd say, oh, come on, that's too far-fetched, but it happened.
And I'm looking at this light grey mist, and I'm watching it getting darker, and the clouds billowing, and I thought, it's bloody raining over those mountains.
And so over the next few minutes, it wasn't very long, This enormous rainstorm came out of the mountains towards me.
And it sounds fantastic, but it is actually true that, you know, weather forecasters talk about a front.
Well, this was a front.
I've described it. It was like a curtain being pulled across the sky.
This front of snare rod rain was coming towards me.
And Over the land in front of me.
And by this time I'm shaking like crazy because it's like being plugged into the mains.
And then this stair rod rain hit me.
And in an instant, I was soaked.
And as soon as it hit me, the energy stopped.
And now I'm like Bambi.
I'm staggering forward, hardly able to stand.
And now my arms that have been like that all that time didn't feel a thing.
Now. I feel a thing.
And from that moment, energy was pouring out of my hands and pouring out of my feet.
I couldn't sleep that night because of the energy coming out of my feet.
And I came back to Britain.
And from that experience, for about three months, I didn't know what the heck was going on.
It was like When you tap too many keys on a computer and the computer says, can't process this information, I'm freezing.
Well, from that experience at CU Stani, it was like you'd lived in a bubble And that was your reality.
And then someone had come along and burst the bubble.
Didn't tell you, just boom, have some of that.
And information and knowledge and awareness was pouring into my conscious mind to the point where it said, can't process this, I'm freezing.
And for about three months, I didn't know where I was.
It was crazy.
I went on a talk show in Britain at the time in that Frozen period, which got me absolutely fantastic ridicule, but it set me free.
I went through historic levels of ridicule and ongoing for decades, but it set me free.
We're back to your greatest gift is often delivered as your worst nightmare because The ridicule was so total, so incessant, that in all the media everywhere, that you were going to do one or two things.
You were going to withdraw from society and disappear, or you were going to come out With the steel hardened through the fire.
And I chose the latter.
And what that set me free of, Simone, was the prison that most people live in, which is the fear of what other people think.
And I stepped out of that prison and if anyone's still in it, I can't tell you what a freedom it is when you don't have to go through mental gymnastics of what do I say?
What do I leave out?
How do I put this so they'll think I'm not crazy?
I don't care. I'm just interested in the truth, whatever the truth is.
So when I look back at my life, all these different elements that I needed, understanding the media, being comfortable in the media, understanding a lot of elements of politics, Determination. Then the mass ridicule freed me from the fear of what other people thought, because when that ridicule was happening, I didn't know what was coming.
Some level did, but I didn't.
Not five cents dated.
But what obviously came was information that if I had still been in a situation where I feared what other people thought of me, Then I would have been far more reluctant to communicate the information that was coming to me.
But because of the massive ridiculed experience, you know, have some of this.
Do you think I'm crazy? Be my guest.
So you know what? I do want to actually continue on this because I think it's a very important point.
I think a lot of people are living in fear, David.
And I want to talk about your very first book you were talking about called Truth Vibrations.
Yeah. Let's talk about that a little bit because this was your first time really, I guess, expressing this freedom that you felt and actually inking it.
So what was that book about?
Well, it was funny because when I came out with this and I came out with that book, people said to me, didn't you know that you get ridiculed for saying all that?
And I said, you know, I had actually worked that one out.
I had worked in the media, but What do you do?
Do you live your uniqueness or do you suppress your uniqueness to live another version of what other people think you should be?
So you're no longer you, you're now them!
And most people are actually living a life that others think they should live because of self-censorship.
So I gave all that up a very long time ago.
And what Truth Vibrations was about was actually the story of the early months of the first year, really, of what was happening to me and all the strange things I was trying to work out.
But there was an interesting part of it.
Why was it called Truth Vibrations?
In those early weeks and months after Betty Shine, I was bumping into psychic people, usually women, all the time.
Now before Betty Shine, I'd never met one, right?
In the entirety of my life.
Now suddenly, if you wanted to find a professional psychic in those early months, just follow me.
I'd lead you to loads. So, you know, it's like, hello, nice to meet you.
What do you do? Oh, I'm a psychic.
Oh, God, another one.
But there was a...
What was fascinating to me, as I'm trying to work this stuff out at the time, uh was that oh and by the way i should say that after three months of you know anyone telling me my name what planet am i on after that peru experience it just fizzled back into um almost like the the kaleidoscope moved and everything was back and and people were saying to me they're saying you've gone mad you're the same david that i knew What's happening?
And I said, well, I may be outwardly the David you knew, but what was actually happening is I was seeing the world in a completely different way.
I was seeing how dots connected instead of just seeing dots.
So the book Truth Vibrations was about that basically first Nine months to a year of this journey.
But like I say, why truth vibrations?
These psychics I met, you know, it fizzled out after, you know, a few months.
But it was very useful to me in those days.
I was trying to work it out.
There was a common theme.
And that was that there was a...
It was described as a vibrational change that was coming.
What I would call today an informational change, an energetic informational change.
And that this was going to have the effect of acting like a spiritual alarm clock.
It was going to wake people up from their coma.
And it was saying that the people more awake were going to wake up first, And then eventually, people at that time, solid gold asleep, were going to start being impacted by it.
And I call this change, this vibrational change, truth vibrations, for this reason.
It said that it was going to have two major effects.
One, it was going to tease open people from the coma.
And two, hence truth vibrations, it was going to bring to the surface all that had been hidden.
We're talking now the summer of 1990, when there was absolutely no evidence whatsoever that any truth hidden from us of any scale was going to come out.
But now look at it.
You look back even 10 years and what we know now that we didn't know then and what we know now that we didn't know was not circulating in 1990 is absolutely fantastic.
All that's been hidden will be shown to us is demonstrably what's happened and getting more and more and more as the years have passed.
So I look at this from my experience over 30 years and I say to people, you know, things may look bad.
They are bad. Things may look lost.
The whole thing maybe looks as if, you know, there's nothing we can do.
But actually there's a bigger picture here.
And there's another force at work.
And this is not over.
It's not even nearly over.
And it's only just begun.
And what this last year has done has been to, yes, through fear, Put some people more and more in the coma, Because fear is a slow, low vibration and therefore you know, you know when people say, oh I feel so heavy today.
Well that's because the emotional state you're in is a slow vibration.
And then people say, oh I feel so light today.
I feel such joy today.
Why? Because that's a fast vibration and so you feel light as opposed to heavy.
On the other side, and I think that people don't appreciate this because it's not in the news, it's not in the mainstream media, but since the first lockdown of 2020, there has been a fantastic awakening to question What the heck the world's all about?
What is happening?
What's going on?
And suddenly, because of the extreme nature of the last year, It's very difficult.
Of course, some have managed it, but it's very difficult to stay in denial that the world is not like you thought it was.
And why is this happening?
Why is this race for a vaccine for something that has a 0.23% Infection to fatality rate, even if you believe it exists, and I don't, of course.
It's crazy.
It makes no sense.
So how do we explain this?
So people's minds have opened to other possibilities, other possible explanations for the world that they live in.
And also, you know, it's like It's like really, it's knocking a domino, you know, those long lines of dominoes.
It's like knocking a domino over and all the others following because once you realize something is absolutely not like you thought it was, like what are the forces running the world, for instance, Then suddenly the mind says, okay, well, what the hell else have I thought is real that isn't?
And the whole thing starts to expand and people start to then look at, well, what is reality?
I mean, what is the nature of the eye?
Who am I? What is this place?
And that is...
Breaking open these bubbles of perception that we are systematically manipulated to live in.
And the thing is that Everything is a frequency.
Every emotion is a frequency, a different frequency depending on the emotion.
Like I say, depression, joy, and every thought is a frequency depending on the nature of the thought.
So all the time, you know, our thoughts and our emotions are creating an energetic field of frequency which we're living in.
Now, if we are focused on the five senses alone, And we self-identify with the labels of the five senses.
Not that they, you know, they're not to be enjoyed in experience, because that's what they are.
They're experiences. But they're not us.
We are the consciousness that's having that experience.
But if you become so focused and so You so self-identify with the limited labels of this brief human experience, then you move into a bubble of reality that's very low vibrational in its nature.
And that can be easily manipulated by that which is behind all this and knows how this works.
It just wants us not to know.
But when you say that's kind of what's happening now, David, is that we're at such a lot of us are such low vibration, which is why we're so easily manipulated by mainstream media, why we're so quick to, you know, if it doesn't align with what mainstream says, it's like, no, you're wrong.
They're right. Is it this low vibration?
Is this what's causing this?
Yeah, basically, let's look at how this works.
We live in a reality that basically has two worlds in it.
There's the world of the population that's being targeted.
And that world has to have very limited access to knowledge.
And it has to be kept in states of fear and depression and anxiety and worry because they're all low vibrational states.
And this other world, which I call the global cult, Which is a network of secret societies, satanic groups, semi-secret groups, with ultimately a central dictating force that's coordinating it all.
This other world Why is it full of secret societies?
Because it's keeping secrets.
And what are those secrets?
They're secrets it doesn't want the population to know.
One, of course, is the agenda for that human population, a big step forward we've seen in that in the last year.
But also, they want to keep from us.
The nature of reality, the nature of this The true I. The true I is consciousness.
We are points of attention within an infinite flow of consciousness.
We can operate on a tiny little pea-sized bubble Of that infinite consciousness or we can access as much of it as we want.
And the more you access, the more wisdom you get, the more you see how the dots connects into pictures, the more intuition and knowing you have and all these things.
Now, if you are trying to control and suppress a target population, the last thing you want It's people in that state.
You don't want that. People in that state.
So if you look at the human life within the structure that this world has created, it's a download of perception from cradle to grave.
You know, you come out of the womb and your parents who've been through what you've got to go through, they influence your perception.
Then you go ridiculously quickly, four or five years max, You're now sitting at a desk with an authority figure telling you what the state wants you to believe.
And also, you're being programmed from the earliest age to obey authority because you realize very early on, even as a small kid at school, that there are different consequences for obeying and questioning.
And so immediately, as a little kid, You're sitting at a desk and an authority figure is telling you when you have to be there, when you can leave, when you can eat, when you can talk, when you can go to the toilet And there are consequences if you don't do what they say.
And then you go through the education system.
Well, what happens if kids question things?
You know, the schools are on to the parents.
Hello, Mrs. Jones, we've got a problem with Johnny.
What's the problem? He's asking questions.
They'll all want to do it. He's a disruptive influence in the classroom.
They want... Kids that just obey because they're trying to get them in and the teachers don't know.
They're just doing their job.
They're as much pawns as anybody.
But they're trying to get the kids for life In this state of obeying and submitting to authority.
You then go through the education system, through college, university.
Then you leave and you go out into the world of work.
Now the teacher is the boss.
Now you have to do what the boss says and so on and so forth.
And you can't question. Yeah, because there are consequences.
And then you've got law enforcement.
They're the boss.
You're supposed to question them.
And so all the way through your life, it's a download of what I call the postage stamp consensus.
It's a very narrow band of sense of the possible, which they want people to be limited to.
And also to become subservient to authority by reflex action.
And this is why anyone that goes beyond the postage stamp consensus, the norm, Is ridiculed, condemned as dangerous, and not just today.
You go back. The shamans, when the empires of Europe started taking over, the lands of Africa and so on, the shamans were targeted because they were carriers of knowledge that was at odds.
With the European colonialist version of reality, which they wanted to impose on the world.
And so anyone, if you look at history, authority has always targeted those that are thinking outside the box or off the postage stamp, as I would call it.
So when I stepped off the postage stamp, well, I didn't step off it.
I sprinted off the bloody thing in the early 90s.
Of course, I got the treatment.
But I hope I'm a living, grieving example that you don't have to go under.
You don't. You can prosper even when you are different.
And if what you say has validity, then eventually it will be shown to be so and the world starts to come to you instead of you just meekly following the world so you become part of the herd and people think you're all right.
So this is what's going on all the time.
And what we've seen, Simone, since the start of 2020, is this process.
They want to censor information, control information, because from information people form perception.
Yes. And perception leads to behavior, and our collective behavior is what we call human society.
So they know, because that's what they're trying to keep from us, the way all this works, That if they can control information, they can to a very large extent control perception and therefore dictate behavior and collectively create society.
So at the start of 2020, they did just that.
The reason that people went meekly under house arrest in the spring of last year is because of two perceptual states.
One, they bought the idea there was a deadly virus.
They bought the idea that authority cared about them.
What a joke that is. And therefore, the authority was saying, to protect you from the virus, you've got to go under house arrest.
So they did. Their perception became their behavior.
And then there was another group that Thought, well, I'm not sure what's going on here, but I don't feel right.
But they still went under house arrest because they feared the consequences of not doing so.
And that left a very few people, it's much bigger now, a very few people who were both seeing through it and not cooperating with it either.
And it's that third group that has to massively expand.
To bring this to an end.
Because whatever the power that this authority claims to have over us, the power it has is simply the power we give to it.
And when there's nearly 8 billion, getting on for 8 billion people, and by comparison, a handful of people in full knowledge of what they're doing, The answer is mathematical in its obviousness on that basis alone.
But for that power of numbers to impact upon the lack of power of those behind this, Then the perception of the population has to change.
It has to, first of all, get informed that it's being conned.
I mean, if it doesn't know now after the last year, I don't know what more it needs.
But also, and this is the most important thing, because tyranny is always overcome by the few, not the many.
The many will kind of move with whatever.
It's the few that bring it down.
And so it's that group That group that can see through it, at least in some levels, realizes this is all a big lie.
That's the group on which there is enormous responsibility to act, because the other group won't.
Right. He believes what he's told.
So this is the group of people worldwide on which the responsibility depends.
And that means that We have to go from seeing it to seeing to cooperate with it, because then it won't be able to function, it won't be able to enforce itself.
And that's why they provided rulers, because they want us fighting with each other so that we don't have that unity of purpose, that unity of the power of no, that says we're not cooperating, because the moment we do, it's over.
David, you know what? Something I think that's been sitting in my head since you've been talking is the fact that I think a lot of people don't realize that this is very much as a spiritual warfare as it is a physical warfare.
They are coming after us spiritually.
Even with us shutting down churches and saying that pastors can't preach and pastors are being imprisoned in Canada for preaching.
Like, that whole idea of getting together and congregation and one accord is being pulled apart as we speak.
So, I guess my question for you right now is, it's easy, I'm not even going to say it's easy because it's been difficult for you to go through what you've gone through.
And for people who are sitting on that fence, they want, I feel like people want to do something, but they are afraid.
How do we help people get past that fear?
And I'm speaking this to you because I want to know, how do I help people move from fear to fearlessness?
Well, you know, I think we're back to what I said earlier.
The cult plays the long game.
It's very...
It's very detailed in its preparation.
By the time the button was pressed on the COVID hoax, all things were in place, including the manipulated mentality and the iron fire policies that have led to a transformation of law enforcement and its dynamic with the public all over the world.
This was all And government officialdom.
This was all prepared for.
It's been prepared for for a very long time.
And we need to play the long game, but in a different way.
A long game in this sense that, again, it comes down to self-identity.
So if you self-identify with a label, which is not you, it's an experience you're having, then the world looks a certain way.
You feel powerless.
You feel fearful because of your lack of power.
You can't see a way out of things because it just seems all too big and all too much.
You become intimidated by authority and fearful of it.
But then when you take another self-identity, and this is the spiritual really, You know, I'm not religious.
I'm not a Christian. I'm not a religious person in any way.
But, you know, when I look at the religions, you know, what they believe is not in its themes.
It's not a million miles from the way I see things.
It's just that we have different emphasis and different ways of describing it, but what divides us is so small compared with what unites us.
And just very quickly, I'll give you an example.
You know, I'm saying there is a non-human force behind all this, and this cult is its representation in our reality.
That's why it's dismantling all the things that we need as humans to survive all the processes.
This is why it's targeting carbon dioxide because carbon dioxide is the gas of life.
Without carbon dioxide, we're all dead because the natural world is dead.
And so when you look at carbon dioxide, We have at the moment about just over 400 parts per million in the atmosphere.
And if it falls anywhere close, anywhere close to 150 parts per million, then the natural world starts to die.
And according to experts, not Extinction Rebellion experts in carbon dioxide, the optimum for plant growth food production is not 400 parts per million, it's 2000.
And here we have this cult, and the woke mentality it's manipulated, that want to stop production of carbon dioxide.
And not only that, Gates is funding technology to suck out of the atmosphere what we already have.
And as Patrick Moore, a co-founder of Greenpeace, pointed out, he walked away because of its lies and mendacity of the Green Movement.
In the 1800s, carbon dioxide was about 280 parts per million.
And we were starting to go, as he said, we were heading towards midnight in terms of carbon dioxide.
And industrialization has risen that or raised that to 400 odd parts per million.
And that's why in the industrial era, no one disputes this.
The Earth has got greener because it's the oxygen of the natural world.
And the idea that it causes catastrophic warming is ridiculous.
When you look at the graphs through history, it's overwhelmingly the warming rise leads carbon dioxide and carbon dioxide follows.
So it's nothing to do with saving the planet.
It's to do with dismantling a system.
That humans absolutely desperately need to survive.
We breathe out carbon dioxide, the natural world takes it in and produces oxygen.
It's a wonderful symbiotic relationship which they want to break.
Now, why would they want to break it?
Obvious question. They're human, aren't they?
They have to live here, don't they?
Why would they want to break that?
Why are they producing a 5G increasing rollout around the world that at 60 gigahertz stops the body absorbing oxygen in the same amount that it needs because of its effect on the oxygen molecule?
What are masks doing?
And now they're two masks and three masks and some marauding a doctor in America wants a death sentence.
It's taking out the amount of oxygen that the body needs, which has fundamental effects, not just on the health, but on the nature of the way the brain works, especially with children.
I've done enormous amounts of research into mind control.
And I've talked to many people that were in MKUltra, the infamous mind control operation run by the American government.
Canada was absolutely involved, yes.
And, you know, one of them was telling me recently that her child, who was born when she was in MKUltra and therefore was in the program from birth, was forced to wear a mask.
By the NK Ultra psychopaths from the age of two because of the number of things, the dehumanization, the de-individualization, but also reducing the amount of oxygen that the brain was getting at a crucial time in its development.
So then you look at Gates is funding geoengineering so we don't get as much sunlight.
And sunlight is absolutely vital to our health.
Vitamin E. So everywhere you look, they're genetically modifying everything.
They're genetically changing the planet.
And now the vaccine. The vaccine.
And this is where it all comes together.
Because the vaccine is putting synthetic material into the cells to change the nature of the body.
They're re-genetically engineering the body through the vaccine.
And of course, this is why they want ongoing vaccines of this mRNA variety to do this.
So, why would something...
That is human. What to do with all this?
Well, it only really makes sense when you realize that behind this cult and behind the gates and all these other people is actually a non-human force, which takes me back to what I was saying about the religions and how so much that seems to divide us, if we only look closer, we'd realize the common themes are utterly compelling.
So what does Christianity talk about?
He talks about demons.
And what are demons?
They're demons. They are manipulating humanity from the unseen.
You go to Islam, they talk about the djinn.
You go to the Zulu in South Africa, and they talk about the Chittahuri.
You go to the Gnostic People in Egypt in around, you know, 400 AD and earlier.
And they talk about the archons, which is a Greek word meaning rulers, which they say are manipulating humanity from the unseen.
So then you go into other parts of the world, you find the same recurring theme.
And there's a timeline to it.
Yes. And so This is where the knowledge is coming from in this other world.
What are satanic groups, especially the real extreme ones, what are they actually worshipping?
When they did human sacrifice in the ancient world, they're still doing it, but not in public, of course, now.
But they're still doing it. I mean, I've researched.
I mean, there's books galore here I've written.
When you start to research these major names in this cult, you're straight into Satanism.
You're into pedophilia as well, but you're into Satanism.
So these people are sick.
They are evil, which my definition of that is the absence of love.
And they're very, very...
Well, they're insane from my perspective.
But they're intellectually clever because they have this knowledge that they're keeping from humanity.
So the dynamic between them and humanity is not all powerful cult and stupid humanity.
It's that the cult has the power Because it's the one-eyed man and it's made humans blind.
That's the dynamic.
And when we open our eyes and become the two-eyed, third-eyed human, then it's over because no longer is there this massive knowledge disparity between the target population and the manipulators.
This is why they have to keep everything secret and Absolutely suppress the amount of knowledge and information that the public population is getting.
So what are they worshipping in their rituals?
Well, again, from the kind of mid-1990s, I did enormous amount of research into Satanism and talked to many, many people who've taken part in Satanism, who've taken part in the rituals, the whole shebang, with some of the most famous people in the world.
I named them in the books. And...
and they talk about the fact that they are interacting with entities and these people may be crazy but they're not stupid they're not going to be interacting with some something that's actually not there and so when you go back to the ancient world and you see what they were doing with their rituals and their sacrifices to the gods well they're still doing them and these gods are this other force that's operating outside of human sight which is a very narrow band of frequency so laughable The band of frequency that we can actually see as a visual reality, it's hysterical.
It's so small, called visible light.
And so you do have now, Simone, we're coming into this wholeness Of seeing how so many things that appear to be at odds with each other or in opposition to each other, like religions and so on, and esoteric stuff, actually, they're basically speaking the same language.
Because where the Bible talks about demons and Satan and all this stuff and Lucifer, well, this cult, the hero of this cult is Lucifer.
The so-called Lightbringer, I explain in the books what the light really means, from their point of view.
It's actually describing, in its own way, the Bible.
It's describing what's actually going on.
But you look at these other things, which maybe Christianity would say, oh no, that's the devil.
But actually they're saying the same if we only looked.
It's a common theme.
And so this If you look at the Gnostic writings, in 1945, an earthen jar was found at a place called Nagarmadi, about 75 miles north of Luxor in Egypt.
And it was amazing. It's called the Nagarmadi Library now.
It was a treasure trove of documents written by the Gnostic people, the Gnostic belief system, which actually ran the Great Ball Royal Library of Alexandria, which was destroyed by the Roman Catholic Church.
But it's estimated that this cache of incredible information was put in the jar about 400 AD. I've got two books of translations of what they said.
And about a fifth of these writings We're talking about this phenomenon, the archons, Greek for rulers, very appropriate.
And they were describing how this archontic force takes form, but actually in its base form, it's a form of consciousness, which is very inverted, very distorted, very imbalanced.
And this is the consciousness that the different religions call the evil force.
Christianity, Satan, Lucifer and all that stuff and other religions and non-religious belief systems have their own names for it.
And the idea of this consciousness is to absorb human consciousness into itself and turn human consciousness into a mirror of it to basically assimilate it and therefore it doesn't want It doesn't want expressions of love.
It doesn't want expressions of human compassion and interaction and empathy.
It doesn't want the fault lines, the irrelevant fault lines of division put down.
And for us to realize that actually, ultimately, whatever we call ourselves, whatever the color of our bodies, we're all one consciousness, having different experiences.
It doesn't want that.
Why? It's so far from it.
It cannot assimilate it.
Something in its state of distortion cannot assimilate love because it is evil.
It is the absence of love.
And it cannot assimilate high vibrational states of being, high vibrational perceptual states.
It can't do that.
It cannot assimilate that which is connected to the greater self.
So what it has to do is to put humanity in perceptual and emotional states of low vibrational emotion and low vibrational perception so that they start to enter its vibration of frequency and then it can be absorbed.
So they want people in states of fear, low vibration.
They want people in states of anxiety and depression.
They want people in states of addiction, which brings the body and the mind into a low vibrational state.
This is what they're doing.
And so, you know, if we...
I mean, it sounds kind of trite, but it's not.
It's the way out of here.
If we open our hearts...
And we start to see that whether you are white, black or Chinese or whatever, they are just brief experiences.
Of the same consciousness.
I mean, we are unique points of attention within that consciousness, and that's fantastic.
We need to express our uniqueness.
Because in our spiritual journey, if you like, we've had all different experiences and different happenings, and so we have our own unique Spin on life.
And what do they want to do?
They want a unified blob where they're actually setting out under the terms of inclusivity to actually destroy uniqueness.
This is what's going on.
So we can look at this situation we're in From a completely different point of view, when we realize what they know and what the foundation of the game is, it's to hold humanity in low vibrational states, the same states that it's in, and then they can kind of start assimilating.
So if we look from this perspective, the world looks different and impossible to Overcome problems look a bit less impossible to overcome.
I'll tell you what I mean. If you perceive this world, I'll go into this another time, we perceive it as solid.
We perceive everything as apart from everything else, because that's how the five senses decode reality and thus give us an experience that we call human.
What is human? It's just a way that we process information.
And these biological computers process information in a certain way.
That means that our point of attention, our visual reality, is within this band of frequency I'm talking about.
And this decodes information in a way that makes us what we call human.
But outside of the body, we are way, way beyond human.
We are consciousness.
We are awareness on eternal journey of experience and exploration.
Why does an elephant act like an elephant?
Because its biological computer processes information in a way that makes it act like an elephant and not a duck.
But the consciousness that's having that experience, which is observing it and experiencing it, is not an elephant.
It's an expression of consciousness that we're all an expression of.
So if we can...
If we look through the five senses alone, everything seems apart from everything else.
Everything seems solid.
And what does that mean? Everything seems limited.
So you look at it and you go, well, hold on a minute.
Are we going to change this?
We can't change this.
It's too important.
And it will take too long.
I mean, what are we going to do?
We've got to get an organization together and we've got to get someone to take the minutes and then we've got to decide who's the chairman.
I mean, what do we do?
But then you go, well, hold on.
Let's look at this from another point of view.
What is the world?
What is it made up of?
What creates it? Well, in terms of the human world, yes.
Well, it's human behaviour, isn't it?
Yeah. Where does that come from?
Well, it comes from human perception, doesn't it?
Yeah. So if you want to change behavior, which collectively is what we call human society, then you change perception and the behavior must change.
You know, if we come from a point of view of love, if we realize that whatever the color of your body, whatever the nature of your religion is, We're all one consciousness having different experiences.
Let's chill out and, you know, all these divisions.
Why do you think that all these divisions are being imposed upon us?
Because they want to divide us.
Because when we're united, it's over for them and they know it.
They have to keep us divided.
So let's just put the weapons down, verbal or whatever, and realize that, A, we're all in this together, and B, if you want to change the world, Well, what is the world?
The world is just humanity made manifest.
Human perception made manifest.
That's what it is. So we change that and the world changes.
Not next year or 200 years from now.
It changes instantly. Go back to early spring, in the spring of 2020.
If people had been informed and looked at it and gone, make no sense to me, I'm not doing it.
Or people that have been intimidated into just doing what they're told.
I've got self-respect.
I'm not letting some Burke in a dark suit.
In the Canadian Parliament or wherever, or some medical officer who doesn't know his arse from his elbow.
I'm not going to let them tell me what to do.
I've seen it's a scam.
I've asked for the proof.
Show me the proof the virus exists.
No one ever has, including the authorities in Canada, because they've been asked for it.
Show me why I should be vaccinated for something, even if I believe what you tell me, has a fatality rate from infection of 0.23%.
I mean, why should I do that?
Don't be ridiculous. It makes no sense.
So you know what? I ain't doing it.
So with that perceptional change over a large number of people, the last year, as it's played out, Would not have played out.
No. Businesses would now be open.
Absolutely. Businesses would be destroyed.
And all these things that are happening wouldn't be happening because the number of people saying this is what's happening is absolutely tiny compared with the population that's acquiescing to what they say is happening.
Yes. And so the perception changes.
The world changes.
No need for a minute taker.
No need to stockpile weapons.
None of it. Change perception and the power of no.
I mean, people say, oh, no, that's negative.
No, it's not. Not in the sense that I'm talking about it.
The power of no.
The power of no is actually the power of self-respect.
And it's self-respect that has overturned every tyranny in history.
And it's the few that's saying, my self-respect is not being conceded to your tyranny.
I don't care what you do to me.
I don't care what the consequences are.
I'm not conceding my self-respect to you.
And that is what has brought down every tyranny in history.
So what they're trying to do now, because it's all a psychological game, exactly what it is.
Because what is it?
It's a perceptual game.
That's what all this is about.
They're trying to break our spirit.
And they're trying to break our respect.
This is what the anal swabs in China are all about for this bloody virus.
Humiliation. Breaking self-respect.
This is what they're doing when they're making it obvious.
But what they're telling you to do is ridiculous.
That's contradictory.
That makes no sense. But they want you to see that.
Because if you see it and you still do it, then your self-respect is being broken.
And when self-respect has gone, submission is all that remains.
And that's the game that's going on.
So, you know, again, look where this is going.
And imagine if you're fearful.
What that's going to be like.
They're introducing vaccine passports whereby you won't be able to do anything unless you have their DNA manipulating vaccine because that's so important to their game.
They have to get into everybody.
This is why they're doing all this, all right?
So, okay, standing up to it now, Well, you know, I'm a bit fearful.
Okay. Have you any idea what's going to happen if you have that vaccine?
And then have another, and then have another, and then have another.
And then, as they're planning, they're going to move all these other vaccines that people have had up to this point, and they're going to turn them into this mRNA, DNA-manipelating type, and the body is going to be transformed.
And therefore, I've just said, what we call human As what we call an elephant or a duck is the way the biological computers process information.
This DNA manipulation is going to, it's designed to change the way the body processes information.
So the nature of what we call human is planned to change into something else and that something else relates to the force we've been talking about today.
So, David, hold on.
We only have five more minutes of you.
Yeah. It always goes so fast.
So, let's pull the trigger.
That's what's coming. So, is it more intimidating to say now, before it comes, let's sort this out, or just to sit and wait and hope it will go away?
I can tell you, it ain't going away because it's not meant to.
We have to make it go away.
Absolutely. And I want to pull the trigger.
Per se, because you have a new book called The Trigger.
What is that about? Tell people what to expect from The Trigger.
Yeah, well, The Trigger is the one before last.
The Trigger is about what really happened on 9-11, which is not 19 Arab hijackers and hijacking planes.
The real story is phenomenal.
Yeah, The Answer. Well, that looks at The Answer.
And also gives the whole background of what's going on.
There's two devastating chapters in that book, which take apart the COVID hoax, because that's what it is, a complete hoax.
And I'm just on the way about two chapters from finishing another one, which we're going to get out as fast as possible.
Can we get a clue on what it is?
Well, I've looked at what's been happening in the last year.
And so many people, like we said earlier, have started to look at the world in a different way.
They've not seen exactly what's going on, but they know something's going on and it's not good.
So what's going on? Well, this is a book, I only started it in January and it's nearly finished, which connects all the major dots.
So it says, you know, you want to know what's going on, why this is happening, why this is happening.
This is why. This is the background.
This is where it's supposed to go.
That's why they're doing this. That's why they're doing that.
That's why they're doing that. So we're going to get that out as fast as possible because I think it will be very useful to put the dots together because that's what we need to do.
You know, while the dots are apart, the world looks bewildering.
You connect them and it's crystal clear.
It does make sense. David, thank you so much.
Where can people find more about you?
I know where to find, but tell people where to find you.
And this new book, can you please let us know about it so that we can talk about it when it does come out?
I certainly will, yeah.
Well, davidike.com is the website where there's news on that every day, putting the world into context.
I put about three or four of my own videos up there every week.
So there's an enormous amount of information, a whole library of information.
Then there's here, Iconic, which is a A media platform.
It's like an alternative version of Netflix, if you like.
And it covers in documentaries, programs, live streams, and original documentaries.
There's one we did relatively recently called Informed Consent, which is all about vaccines.
Doctors and what have you talking about?
Doctors and proper doctors talking about them and telling the truth.
And so there's a lot of esoteric and other stuff and psychological programs.
It's phenomenal.
My son Jamie has put it together.
It's amazing. And Gareth does a lot of work on it.
And so that's around as well.
And one of the main reasons that we created it, or Jamie did the work to create it, is we could see the censorship coming.
So we needed a platform.
You know, the Iconic has its own player.
I think you do too now. Absolutely essential.
It has its own player, so it's not dependent on outside platforms to keep going.
Just a quick one.
Just to show you the level of the way these people work.
When I was banned, by Facebook and YouTube etc for the crime of saying there isn't a virus.
Vimeo, we were just building our own platform for Iconic so we could play our own videos.
We're about three weeks away from it and at that time all the videos on Iconic were on Vimeo and at the same time Vimeo just Pulled it.
All the videos, just deleted.
That's how pathetic they are.
And so, you know, very quickly, because the big thing we mustn't do, Simone, is to go down the road of being a victim.
When they try to silence us, they're telling us something.
Ultimately, truth has the power and not them.
They're frightened of the truth.
That's why they're deleting people who are putting information out from their back bedroom because they're terrified of anyone seeing what will unravel what they're trying to get people to believe.
So they're telling you that We have the power.
Otherwise, they wouldn't be doing this.
They'd say, oh, we're much too powerful.
It doesn't matter what they say. Fortunately for them, it does matter.
It does matter. The truth is more powerful than the lies that they put out.
So instead of, you know, oh, it's terrible, you know, oh, you know, I'm a victim.
Oh, can this happen to me?
What Jamie and other people did is they simply set the alarm clock for about every half an hour.
All the way through the night and day.
And to wake up, to put the videos back.
When one was done, the other one went back.
And within a few days, the whole of Iconic was back, despite the efforts of Vimeo to shut it down.
And now we have our own players, so we don't have to depend on them.
That's a wonderful thing.
David, thank you again.
Every single time I talk to you, I feel so much more informed.
I really appreciate you sharing some of your story today.
It wasn't the direction I wanted to go originally.
Again, I had questions here.
But I want people to hear because I think people are at that point where they are awakening.
And they sometimes just need to understand what they're feeling.
And hearing your story might be that trigger.
It might be the answer for a lot of people.
So thank you for sharing that with us.
And of course, please come back.
Oh, I will. I absolutely will.
You are doing absolutely fantastic work.
And Grant's doing great work.
Everyone's doing great work there.
And it's a real contribution to what's happening.
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