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Feb. 17, 2021 - David Icke
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When People Have Nothing Left To Lose - Then We'll See The Real Revolution - David Icke
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So what is going on in the I read a lot of your stuff, I watch a lot of your videos, and you typically seem to be very on point.
What do you think is going on right now with the world, I guess?
Big question, but...
Well, what's going on now is what I've been writing about for over 30 years, which tells you something.
What's going on now is not random.
This has been planned for a very long time and it's been planned in great detail, even down to something that I've tracked over the years, which is the systematic changing dynamic between authority in general and absolutely law enforcement and the public from a point of view of serving the public interest to seeing the public as the enemy.
And, you know, I've seen around the world, not least in places like Victoria, Australia, police brutality against peaceful protesters.
My God, it's an epidemic, mate, in Britain.
I'm referring to the British shirts and the yellow shirts because that's what they wear, black and yellow uniforms, because they are ridiculous in their impositions of these nonsensical rules and regulations.
I've just been watching a video of a supermarket in Britain.
It's called Morrison's, and I think it's a British version of an American company.
And they called the police because someone refused to wear a yellow sticker to show that they were exempt from wearing a mask.
And unless they wore the yellow sticker, they were not going to get served.
I mean, what we're seeing, I think, what I observe, is that there is a great awakening going on And the events of 2020 to present time have been so extreme that it has encouraged, it has got people in bigger numbers by far than I've ever known.
To look at the world in another way and say, actually, what is going on?
But at the same time, much of the human race seems to be descending into insanity.
And one of the things I've been highlighting Over the months since this started is the fact that at its foundation, it's a psychological war on the human psyche.
It's about breaking the human spirit so we become subservient.
And it's about, in general, putting us in a submissive state.
And these masks are overwhelmingly psychological.
They're certainly not about health, but they are about severely damaging health cumulatively, as we've started to see evidence of.
But the biggest impact they have, certainly in the early stages before the health impacts kick in, Is dehumanization.
I mean, and something else.
Removing people's self-respect.
I mean, you walk through the streets.
I don't wear them, of course, but you walk through the streets and you see these literally faceless people.
With their kind of far away eyes.
And this is all part of the psychological war.
I did a lot of research into mind control, not least in relation to MKUltra in the United States and North America.
And I talked to so many People who were survivors of MKUltra.
Many weren't, of course.
And I learned all about the techniques of what was used on them.
And since 2020 started, I'm looking around and I'm seeing those exact same techniques being used on the population in general.
And one of them is masks because I was contacted by one of the people I met a long time ago for the first time back in 1996 who'd been in MKUltra or part of it and her daughter was born while she was held in MKUltra and she was telling me that her daughter was forced to wear a mask from the age of two.
to a take away a sense of individuality and also to deprive the brain of oxygen which stopped the brain developing in the way that it should so we are looking at a systematic war on the human psyche and if we don't realize that and put the defenses up through that realization Then a lot of people are going to become automaton in the world over the next few months and years, big time. That's crazy, and very honestly and well put.
What do you think is making some people see through this, some people not?
One of the common grounds I've found is people that believe in God and serve God versus people that don't.
I found that, but a common link.
It seems like a lot of atheists just blindly believe this.
What are your thoughts on this?
Why are some people seeing through this, some people not seeing through this?
Well, first of all, when I came to America for the first time to talk about this, it was in 1996.
What was known then as the Christian Patriot Movement, that was the foundation of People were talking about this information, talking about the fact that there was a plan to create, in effect, a global fascist state, a one-world global fascist state.
And so that, you know, I talked at a lot of events that were Christian in that period because they were the ones that were talking about it.
So I guess you're going to have that playing through to present time, given that what we're all talking about then is now clearly happening.
But I do think there is another element to this, and it's part of this psychological manipulation.
We are consciousness.
I'm known as David Icke, but David Icke is just the name for my brief human experience.
I am the consciousness, the eternal, infinite consciousness that's having this experience called David Icke.
And when it's over, my consciousness will go and explore other areas of forever.
And when you come from that perspective, You can see things that you can't see if you're completely caught in what I call label consciousness, where your perception of the I is not I am consciousness, eternal consciousness, but I am the labels that I give myself or the labels that I'm given.
I'm a man, I'm a woman, I'm this race, that race, this religion, that religion, this sexuality, that sexuality.
They are experiences for the consciousness that we are.
And the game is, and this is the way the system is set up, Is from cradle to grave to get us to self-identify the I with the experience.
What that means, I mean, you meet someone and you say, hello, who are you?
They won't say, oh, I'm an expression of infinite consciousness having a brief human experience.
Of course not. They'll say, I am, and they'll list the labels.
And that's fine.
Enjoy the experience.
Enjoy the labels. Enjoy your own uniqueness.
But if you lose the fact that what you really are is consciousness, you get pulled into a very narrow world, a very narrow world of perception, perceptual possibility.
And it's basically the world that's perceived only through the five senses.
And so there will be an element of what you've said in the question.
I mean, I'm not religious.
I don't follow a religion, but I respect those who do.
I mean, my philosophy on life is, you know, do what you like so long as you don't impose it on anyone else.
But to have this perception that there's more than just that, We'll also, I think, be part of this fact that many people, certainly in the Christian religion, in my experience in America, are aware and have been over the years that there's definitely a conspiracy going on.
And so...
When you look, for instance, at the woke mentality, which is, of course, Biden supporting, and ironically, the woke mentality has hijacked the left.
I grew up in the A household that was of the left in politics, but it was a very different left to now.
It was a left that stood up against power, concentration of power.
It challenged the misuse of power by what were then millionaires, now billionaires, and crucially it stood up and demanded freedom of speech.
But now we've had this woke mentality take over.
The left, hijack the left.
And the woke mentality is not the left at all.
It's slightly irritating sometimes when I'm watching things in America and they keep calling these woke as liberals.
They aren't liberals. They're really extreme at the other end.
Because a true liberal, whether you agree with them or not, wants freedom of speech, freedom of lifestyle, and to be at peace with other people seeing the world differently.
But that's not what the woke is.
The woke is a tyranny. And it's been indoctrinated.
Into generations now by what I call the global cult that's behind all this.
And it's been done through the schools, increasingly so.
It's so extreme now.
It's been done through the universities, etc.
And it's a mentality which has been manipulated to think it's inclusive and radical.
While it's absolutely in bed, indeed they fund most of it, with billionaires and billionaire corporations, and crucially, coming back to what I mentioned a few minutes ago, the woke mentality is not just consumed by labels, it's subdividing them.
All the time.
And this LGBT, all the letters get longer and longer and longer.
I mean, it's ridiculous. There's some of the list of letters that some universities use in America now.
And of course, it's coming to Europe.
And what that's doing is subdividing the previous labels into even smaller labels.
So instead of the I, I am consciousness.
All that is, has been, and ever can be having a human experience, you have to define yourself by the minutiae of your sexuality.
It's absolutely extraordinary.
And it's a mind-control job.
It's been orchestrated to put vast numbers, not all of them, thank goodness, but vast numbers of young people Into a mind prison.
A mind prison that is actually an inversion.
And what this cult does, it actually comes from a point of view of inversion.
So if you are supposedly a radical of the left, a liberal, you actually want to...
Destroy freedom of speech.
You want to take away people's ability to have an opinion and a view if it doesn't coincide with yours.
You are supporting the censorship of the population by the very billionaires that the old left would have been challenging.
And so it's a complete inversion.
And you have a woke mentality, therefore.
That thinks of itself as kind of of the left, what do they call it?
Progressive. When it's actually supporting in the Biden administration what is unfolding already and what will be the most extreme American government in American history.
I agree. You said a lot of great points there.
And I think it's interesting to point out, too, that you were ostracized for saying this, like, decades ago.
And then through the years, like, literally, like, you're being proven right.
And I'd say most of what you said has been proven right by now.
One of the things that makes me interested, though, is, like, the shape-shifting reptilian thing, like, more or less.
It was like, when you brought that up, like, I remember being a kid, and, like, no offense, I respect you and stuff, but I remember hearing that when I was young, and I was just like, is this guy nuts?
And then literally as it goes on, everything you're saying is happening and being proven true, except for the shape-shifting reptilian thing, to me at least.
Maybe there's people that have seen it, but what are your thoughts on that a little bit?
Well, you see, what I would say to people is the research methodology of uncovering all this stuff that has turned out to be correct It was the same methodology that I employed to come to the conclusion that behind all this is a non-human force.
One of its expressions is a reptilian form, but there are others.
And ultimately, it's a very distorted, inverted state of consciousness, which is behind all this.
And this global cult that we kind of see, most of it's in the hidden universe, Even within our reality, but when we see expressions of this global cult in your Bill Gates's and your George Soros's and all these people and your Anthony Fauci's, what you see is a perceptual mentality expression of this This other force, this non-human force, because this network of secret societies and satanic groups that form this global cult,
they are expressions in our reality of this force.
Their job is to impose the will of this force on human society.
That's what they're there for. Even the people that are multi, multi, multi, multi, multi billionaires like Gates and whatever, they're still gophers.
to the bigger picture and it came to me you know quite early on because I looked at what was going on.
I started to investigate the history of all this, because what's happening now has been prepared for for a very, very long time.
I mean, this goes back literally thousands of years, at least.
And, you know, you're watching this.
You're looking in the ancient world and you're bringing it through.
You're going through the Roman Empire and Babylon and all that, Egypt.
And people are coming in, being born.
They're playing a part in advancing this agenda, which is what it's been.
It's the incessant centralization of power.
The reason it's got so intense now is the centralization of power has got so focused.
And you then see them die.
And then others come in, and they play their part in that period, and then they die, and others come in.
So it went on, and I'm thinking, well, hold on a minute.
There's got to be some kind of common force that actually has spanned the whole thing.
And, you know, we get caught in the fact that when we look through our eyes, well, I think we do, if you get deeper, we That we see everything in the space that we're looking at.
We don't. What we call the world is actually just a band of frequency which we can decode through this what I call biological computer system, the body.
And so we're only seeing a narrow band of frequency.
For instance, mainstream science reckons that the electromagnetic spectrum is about 0.005% of what exists in the universe.
Some say it's a bit more as high as 0.5%, but very, very small.
And visible light, which is the only band of frequency that we can see, everything you can see is within the band of frequency called visible light.
That is a smear of the 0.005%.
So we are seeing next to nothing.
We are basically blind to the greater reality.
And the idea is that people are perceptually imprisoned in that sense of reality because if you are only perceiving through the five senses, you're basically perceiving that narrow band of frequency called visible light and the other senses that go with it.
But when you start to Expand your awareness through self-identity with being much more than the label I. You start to break out perceptually of that frequency prison and you start accessing other levels of awareness, inspiration, insight, knowledge that give you a much bigger picture on what's going on here.
But the idea is to keep people in that band of frequency.
And that band of frequency literally has a frequency.
It's a range of frequency.
And the idea is that if you can keep the human race in a low frequency state mentally and emotionally, then that's what they will perceive and they won't perceive anything beyond it.
So if you can keep people in fear, very low frequency state, Or anxiety, depression, all these things, then you're going to hold people in this frequency prison.
And they're only going to basically proceed through the five senses.
So I then started...
Researching the ancient cultures around the world and what they were saying, you know, what their story of the world was.
And what I found was, whether it's the aboriginals in Australia or the Zulus or Native Americans or the people in the Middle East, there was a common theme.
And that is that there was a force, they give it different names, obviously, in the unseen.
That was manipulating human society.
For instance, the Islamic belief system calls them the jinn.
And so I then started synchronistically, because once I started on this journey, which was synchronistic in itself, in 1990, consciously, anyway, I know my life was leading up to that beforehand now, but consciously from 1990, I was...
Looking at the world differently, and from that kind of revelatory time in 1990-91, my life became a very synchronistic journey of walking into information, personal experience, documents, people, books, all different sources of information.
And what was starting to happen Very early on, was that a subject would come into my life, a theme, and suddenly Information about that subject was coming at me from all directions.
This is what happened with the non-human force and the whole reptilian thing.
It was in 1990, about 1997, I think, 97, about that time.
And I was traveling around America, speaking to not many people then, but in a 15-day period, and I was in a different place every day after a plane journey.
That in a 15 day period I met 12 different people in 12 different places who told me the same basic story that they'd had the experience of seeing someone who appeared human to transform in front of their eyes into a reptilian form and then morph back again.
And what I do with information, especially information that's kind of far out like that, is I put it on the back burner and I wait.
And I see if more information comes to support that or whether it doesn't.
And it did. And it built.
In a number of books, I go into this in some detail, the experiences that I had with people who told me these stories that were very compelling in their common themes.
So the question then was, well, you know, Why don't we see them?
Why doesn't everybody see them?
And it's because they operate outside this band of frequency we call visible light.
They operate outside of the range that we can see.
They can come in and when they do we see them and then they leave and And we don't see them.
And so not many have, but some, a far bigger number than people would appreciate, have seen this phenomenon.
And, you know, when people say, I saw this UFO and it appeared out of nowhere and then disappeared into nowhere, Because of the lack of knowledge that's made public, not least through the education system, etc., about the nature of reality, that's all hoarded by the secret society network as best it can.
People look at those that say that and they say, you're mad, mate.
You can't appear out of nowhere and disappear.
That's ridiculous.
You know, you're on something. But you can't.
Because what's happening is they're not appearing and disappearing.
They're entering the frequency that we can decode and see.
And to the observer, they've just appeared out of nowhere.
And then they leave this frequency and to the observer, they disappear.
So when you look at these...
These accounts in all these different cultures coming through from ancient times that there is a massive common theme that there is a force that operates overwhelmingly almost entirely in the unseen that is manipulating human society and the way it does it It has this network of secret societies and satanic groups.
When Satanists, I mean, not the people that play at it, but the real full-blown Satanists, they don't do their rituals to the gods.
For a bit of fun, or because they're completely deluded, this force is what they are worshipping.
And so when you go into ancient times and they did the human sacrifice to the gods, this is what they were sacrificing to.
They just called them different names in different cultures.
So it was clear that this force had a lot of common descriptions and accounts in the ancient world.
And this Representation of it, in our reality, this cult network, its job through, if you like, bodies operating within this frequency band, or they can interact with it, is representing the interests of this force.
And that's ultimately what's behind people like Gates and all the others.
They are serving this force.
That is their master and their Their mentality and their lack of emotion, their psychopathy, is an expression of this force.
That's why they are as they are, because they're almost like a hive mind of this force.
That's right. I've heard you consider them like a cult before.
I always call them the satanic death cult.
That's what it seems like, just with the vibe and stuff.
It is a death cult. Yes, absolutely.
It's a death cult. And it feeds off the energy of death.
This is why it's obsessed with death.
This force feeds off Low vibrational human energy is one of its energy sources.
And because it's itself in such a low frequency state, because of its distortion, its inversion, its chaotic state, it's in a low frequency state itself.
To absorb energy, to the sustenance of energy, it has to absorb energy in the same frequency band that it can interact with, that it can absorb.
And so it doesn't want a human race that's in a state of love and joy and harmony.
Because when we give off those vibes, those frequencies, which, I mean, every thought, every emotion, you're giving off a frequency represented by the thought or the emotion.
And these high frequency states, like love and joy and balance and harmony, all these things, This force can't absorb them.
It's like two radio stations.
They're on different frequencies. Never the twain shall meet.
They have to pull the human race into a low frequency state of emotion and mentality because then we're giving off the vibes that it can absorb.
And, you know, I mentioned a few minutes ago about In the ancient world, they used to openly, they do it secretly now, but they still do it, but openly sacrifice people, usually children, often children.
This is why we have this thing about sacrificing young virgins to the gods.
Young virgins is just code for children.
And what they're doing with these sacrifices, because you say, well, okay, well, what do you mean you're sacrificing to the gods?
I mean, what do the gods get out of it?
Well, what happens in these dark, deeply dark, beyond imaginable dark satanic rituals is when they're sacrificing a person, the person is obviously in a state of enormous terror.
And that gives off the frequency of terror, of extreme terror.
And these entities that are operating outside of our visual reality, but can absorb the...
I mean, you know, whatever emotions I'm feeling now, whatever I'm thinking now, I'm giving them off.
And people can say, oh no, I've got good vibes from him or I've got bad vibes from him.
I'm giving them off and you can feel them on that level.
But you can't see them because they're operating outside this band of frequency that we can see.
So as these emotions and mental states are given off, this force in the unseen is able to connect with that and absorb it.
And at the same time, the terror It causes an adrenaline to be released into the bloodstream.
And it's that, that the Satanists who are in our reality carrying out the ritual, that's what they're drinking.
It's a kind of nectar.
It gives them a high, this adrenaline in the blood.
So this is what's going on.
And it used to be done openly in the ancient world.
And then humanity reached a point of maturity where it weren't having that.
And it went underground, but it's still going on.
One of the things I've exposed in great detail in some of my earlier books is the satanic ritual foundation of all this, this cult.
You're absolutely right to call it a death cult.
And the very, very famous people, I name in the books, Who are involved in this stuff.
And they have a public persona and they have another persona that operates in private, which is very, very different.
Yeah, I feel like the veil recently was, like, lifted or something to where we could see through all this.
I mean, you have a lot of, like, the fall of the cabal, a lot of kind of stuff like that, the Epstein story.
You have a lot of, like, pop culture things kind of revealing it.
And it's interesting seeing that.
And I also heard you talk about how turquoise is, like, emits a positive color.
I like to see you wear that, honestly.
It's good to see you wear that again.
And is love the highest frequency?
Is that, like, the most pure and highest frequency, you think?
Well, it's a very good frequency, I think.
And the Native Americans, of course, were very much into turquoise.
But the principle of color is very interesting.
I said earlier, everything is a frequency, and it is.
Every color is a frequency.
You know, when we look at something with a color, In its foundation state, it has no colour.
It's just energy.
It's an information field.
And we decode the colour because every colour, it's a frequency.
It's a particular frequency.
And so you'll have a situation where someone will wear a colour.
And people will say, God, you look great in that colour.
That really makes you vibrant, that colour.
And they'll say another time, oh, you know, that colour drains you, mate.
That colour drains you. Takes the colour out of your face.
And this is because when you wear a colour, what you're actually wearing is a frequency field that is vibrating to that frequency of that colour.
And sometimes it syncs with you and sometimes it don't.
So some people will look...
Vibrant in one colour and other people will look vibrant in another colour.
But it's all the whole spectrum thing of colour.
It's just different frequencies which we then decode into what we perceive as colour.
The colour exists in here.
Because all the time we are decoding reality which we experience as a physical world.
But the only place that physical world exists is in here.
It's like, imagine you have a Wi-Fi field and a load of computers are connected to that Wi-Fi field.
Well, the Wi-Fi field is in a certain state.
It's a radiation field holding information.
And the computers then decode that information from the radiation state into the state we see on the screen.
That's what the computer is doing.
It's decoding, use Wi-Fi, it's decoding Wi-Fi into a completely different form on the screen.
But the form on the screen is just a different manifestation of the information carried in that field, whichever one's being decoded.
So our reality is created like that.
If you look at the five senses, they are mechanisms to pick up frequencies And communicate them to the brain as electrical signals, and the brain then constructs those frequencies, that information, into the world that we think is outside of us and that we are part of.
So if you take the example of the ears, simplest example, the ears are not picking up sound that we hear.
They're picking up frequencies.
So when I'm speaking now, what are words?
When I'm speaking now, my vocal cords are creating vibrating information fields.
That's what they're doing. And they are communicating.
And then the ears pick up those sound waves.
They turn them into electrical signals and they communicate them to the brain.
And then we hear Once that process is complete, we hear the words that the person is saying because the brain's decoded the frequency field into what we call language.
So there's that great question, example of this.
Does a falling tree make a noise?
And the answer is only if you hear it.
Because the tree is a vibrational information field.
That's why it's a tree.
And not a flower or, you know, not a rabbit.
It's a tree and it's a tree because that information field carries the information of a tree.
This is why an elephant acts like an elephant and not like a like a duck.
Because that information field we call the elephant has a program.
Like a software program, bring it down to technology language, which plays out a certain behavior system.
And that's why, you know, a duck is a duck, and it's why an elephant is an elephant, when actually, in the bigger picture, they're all just consciousness.
So, when you've got a tree, when it falls...
What is the field of the tree is falling through the greater field of information, the greater sea of energy, information, frequency that we live among.
That's what connects us.
That's why these things, these paranormal things like telepathy and stuff, it's actually frequencies passing through the field.
So as it falls through the field, it's making a disturbance in the field as one frequency interacts with another.
And if nobody's there, that's all it does.
But if someone's there, these pick up the disturbance, send it to the brain as electrical signals, and the brain decodes it into the sound of a tree falling.
That's a great metaphor.
I have a weird question, too.
I heard you speak something like this, and it kind of clicked when you said that with the frequencies, like how we're not actually hearing words, we're feeling frequencies.
And I was watching some of your YouTube videos to kind of do homework on this episode, and you said something similar to that, and then I looked down, and my cat was making a vibration basically through his noise, and I'm realizing that cats are probably the best at it.
And I almost wondered, this is unproven, just a thought, I almost wonder if they mimic love through vibration to get what they want.
And I almost seen them as manipulative more so.
And that's how they live for free. It's like really weird how I connected that while I was watching YouTube videos of yours.
Well, that's interesting.
First of all, I think you're right about cat.
I mean, certain animals and animals in general are very much more sensitive to frequencies and to changes in frequency.
This is a reason why animals start to respond And react long before an earthquake.
When humans are not responding because now it's coming.
But what happens is when there's an earthquake coming or a big disturbance, a big weather system, it starts to affect the frequency field.
It starts to affect this field we live in among.
And because, you know, animals don't read the newspapers, go to school and desensitized, literally, They pick it up when most humans don't, but some humans can, and they're called seers and all this stuff, when all it is is being sensitive to energy, sensitive to changes in the frequency.
So the animal will pick up that energy.
That change before it manifests physically.
And they've obviously so very clear behavior of knowing an earthquake's coming before it does.
And cats are very, very sensitive to this.
Cats will have a deeper range of perception.
Deeper into the field, beyond that human visible light restriction.
It's not really a restriction, it's the way the body works, but they go deeper in the field.
And so you'll see cats and other animals, dogs too, reacting to something that appears to be empty space.
To someone, a human in the room, what's the cat doing?
Nothing there. What are you doing?
Well, there is something there to the cat because it can see deeper into the field.
So it can see things that we can't see.
And, you know, this is what's happening.
And what we call psychics, genuine ones, there's lots that call themselves psychics and mediums that aren't, but those genuine ones, they have this ability to go deeper into the field.
And to pick up vibrations and information, other entities outside of the normal human range of perception.
And that's why they pick up things.
A genuine psychic, if you want them to contact someone who's passed on, they'll often say to you, do you have anything that they wore?
Did they wear a ring?
Have you got a ring? Because what they're doing is, as you wear that ring, that ring is absorbing your frequency because it's in your field.
It's part of your field.
And a sensitive psychic can pick up the frequency that was you In that ring, that ring's still holding.
And it can help to literally tune in to you, the past human entity.
So, you know, it's like being telepathic, what they used to call in Africa the bush telegraph.
Where, you know, people out on the hunt could pick up the fact that something was going on back at the village and they needed to get back.
It's because, you know, in those kind of cultures, without all the, and this is what it is, without all the things to capture five cents focus, They were much more sensitive to these things, just like animals are more sensitive to these things, and therefore they can pick up vibes.
If you have a close vibrational frequency connection to someone, like a loved one or something, when they're giving off a frequency, particularly an emotional state, which can be very powerful because something's going wrong, You can pick it up even at a distance.
Because there is no distance.
There is no space at this level of reality that I'm talking about.
And you can pick it up.
I just know something's wrong.
Or you'll think of someone.
You'll think of someone.
This happens to people a lot.
You'll think of someone and the phone will ring and there they are.
Well, what a coincidence.
No. Their preparation to call you It goes out as a vibe.
It goes out into the field.
And if you can pick up that vibe because you have this relationship with them, this connection, then you'll start thinking of them because suddenly their vibe's hitting you.
And then the phone will ring because they were going to call you and you were picking up that preparation.
In the same way that the animals pick up the earthquake Before the earthquake happens, so you're picking up them preparing to ring you before they actually ring, and therefore you go, God, that's amazing.
That's a miracle. It's not. Just the way reality works.
Just that, you know, this cult tries to keep all this from us.
They say, oh, it's the paranormal.
It's a load of rubbish. So it's why they've controlled and brought up And funded mainstream science to poo-poo and discredit all of this.
Because they don't want us to know the true power that we have.
They want us to think, oh no, little me, we have no power.
Oh, that's super real. And it was funny, I was watching your talk on the vibration thing on YouTube, and it clicked in my head when you said that.
And I realized that I wasn't actually hearing words after you said that.
And I literally looked down, and the cat's purring at me, or whatever we call purring.
And I'm like, you're trying to manipulate me to get on the couch by mimicking love.
And I was literally watching it happen.
It clicked in my head while I was watching one of your talks.
It was just really interesting.
And that's an opinion at this point, an unproven opinion, from my perspective, but it still seemed like that.
It seemed like they're literally using vibrations to mimic love to get on the couch to be more comfortable.
That was all it needed from me.
I felt like... Well, we live in two worlds.
In one world, there's the world of the population and that is strictly limited, unless you go looking for it, in terms of information and knowledge.
To keep them in the dark, they say about the mushroom technique, keep them in the dark and feed them bullshit.
And over the other world, you've got...
You've got this cult, which is a global network of secret societies and incredibly hierarchical.
So most of the people, even within the network, don't know what the inner core knows.
The basic reason for secret societies and keeping secrets is twofold.
It's more than this, but it's basically twofold.
One is to keep secret the agenda for humanity.
So stepping stones to tyranny appear to the population to be just random events with no connection.
And the other thing is, crucially, is passing on knowledge of the nature of reality and how it works and how our perceptions become our experience.
And they do. And to keep that from the population, that's why it's passed over through the Secret Society Network.
And I'm not talking about the lower levels of it, Bill and Joe down the Freemasonry Lodge in St.
Louis. I'm talking about, you know, deeper into the...
Into the hierarchy, you get the levels where the real knowledge is available.
And you look at secret societies, they're broken up into degrees, and you're only allowed into the next degree if that degree thinks you're worthy of it.
So it's really compartmentalised in terms of knowledge.
But at the core...
They hoard this knowledge of what this reality is and how it works and they want to keep it from the population because then they can use this knowledge in one way, the way you're talking about, to manipulate humanity while humanity not only doesn't know That these techniques are being used to manipulate them.
But if anyone says this is what's happening, they'll call them crackpots because they'll say what you're saying is not possible.
No, no. You believe it's not possible because you've been told it's not possible.
These know it's possible and they're using it on you every day.
And one of the great ways and the most important ways, really, of holding a...
A people in servitude is to suppress their sense of the possible because their sense of the possible is then limited by what can we do about this and it's also limited by not knowing that a much greater possible is being used to control you but you don't know and you'll dismiss it anyway because you don't realize the possibilities that really exist.
You just think in terms of the limitation that That you've been manipulated all your life to believe in.
And this interaction between perception and experience is crucial into understanding how all this works.
They know that our perceptions become our behavior.
How you perceive a situation dictates how you behave in relation to it.
So in 2020, because so many people believed there was a deadly virus, they meekly went under house arrest because they thought that was the way to save them from the deadly virus.
So their perception became behavior and behavior.
We saw how it turned out.
And the collective, what we call human society, therefore, is simply human collective perception made manifest as behavior.
That's what it is.
The world of humanity, human society, is a behavior expression of human perception.
So they're trying to control perception because they know that if we can be programmed with the right perception from their point of view, the right behavior will follow and the right responses will follow that will advance their agenda.
And one of the main things they want to do is keep us in a perceptual state of fear.
Because people in a state of fear tend to give their power away to whatever they believe will protect them from what they've been manipulated to fear.
Never was that more obvious since 2020 adorned.
And the whole thing's a perceptual conspiracy, really.
And if we take our minds back, take our perceptions back, Then we take their power away.
We let them mould our perceptions.
We give our power away.
Yeah, and speaking of multi-perceptions, I noticed this too, how we're limited whenever I ask people what their dream is or something like that.
It's always work-related. I'm like, what is your dream like?
Oh, I want to work here.
I want to do this for work.
It's always like their dreams are even in servitude.
Any kind of goal is like, yeah, I'd like to have that kind of job.
That's your goal? Your goal is to work?
Yeah. Well, that's a very interesting point.
And it's one I've written about in the books over the years.
One of the ways to control perception and control behavior is to dictate the symbols of success.
So this is a very, very powerful part of this.
So most people do not have...
Self-security. Because the whole system's about keeping people insecure.
When you realize you're all that this has been and ever can be, I mean, you have a security.
Because you know whatever's happening now is just a brief experience.
There'll be another one along in a minute.
But most people are not secure.
And they're looking for external security.
Confirmation. They're looking for their security to come externally.
This is why so many people in the entertainment industry and Hollywood are deeply, deeply insecure people.
Because they're attracted to these professions to get the adulation, an external sense of security, because they haven't got it themselves.
So if you want that, Because you haven't got it yourself, then, for instance, you want people to think you're successful and you've made it and all this stuff, then it's no good succeeding by going walking in India or the Himalayas or something, you know, because people overwhelmingly don't see that as success.
He's wasting his life.
He could be a banker or a lawyer and he's gone walking in the MLAs.
What a failure.
The fact that he's loving it is kind of irrelevant, of course.
So what people tend to do is seek out Success according to the symbols that they've been given of what success is.
Fame, big house, you know, lots of holiday vacations, all these things, lots of money.
And then you get, oh, he's successful, or have you seen the car he's got now?
They're externalizing their sense of security in trinkets.
And symbols that are not their security at all.
They just think they are.
And then you've got other people that don't need that, who don't seek the symbols that are given them to succeed.
They succeed on the basis of how they want to live their life.
Have you noticed how we've lost...
What's that great American saying, the pursuit of happiness?
We've kind of forgot these emotional states of joy, of love, of balance, of harmony, of peace, as a success in and of themselves.
By being in those states, that's success.
It's not the latest bloody Ferrari.
That's just a trinket to externalize your need for security and adulation.
And people that become conscious beyond this, they're not looking at the material world.
I mean, I live in a tiny bloody flat.
I mean, it's tiny, but...
I don't want any more.
I don't need any more.
I don't need a big house.
I don't want a big house.
I don't want a Ferrari.
I don't want any of this stuff.
Just my personal thing.
I don't want any of this stuff. My sense of success or my sense of peace and joy comes from what I do and what I explore and not from trinkets.
Because I couldn't have got through the last 30 years of kind of incessant abuse and ridicule If I was looking externally for my sense of security, it would be impossible. I'd have ended up in the corner kind of shaking, you know, and disappeared from the world.
But because I'm not looking outside of myself for confirmation that I'm an alright bloke, I don't need it.
Therefore, when you open your mouth, you say what you think.
And all this stuff that I'm talking about here, it all connects into everything else because So many people, because of this insecurity, and if you identify with the five sense I, you're going to go into those levels of insecurity.
It's like, oh, you know, why am I not doing as well as him?
Why can't I do as well as her?
And this goes, it's just an experience, mate.
It's just a brief experience.
Chill out. You know, gotta, gotta, gotta.
You haven't really.
You've got eternity to gotta, gotta, gotta.
Chill. And you are in a state where you don't need this stuff.
But if you look at, again, people who have these insecurities, They are looking all the time for ways of finding security externally.
So what they'll do is they'll say, before they say anything, what do I need to say?
What do I need to leave out?
So that these people will think I'm okay.
So these people will like me.
So these people will think I'm intelligent.
So people will accept me as one of their circle.
So how do I edit myself?
How do I cease to be the true unique me?
And how do I become what they would want me to be?
And in all these ways, what you're doing is you're losing your sense of self.
You're losing your true self-identity, your unique self-identity.
We may be all part of one infinite consciousness, but we're all unique expressions of it.
And people lose that once they think How do I have to change myself, what I think, what I say, what I do, so that these people will see me in a certain way?
In other words, how do I become what they want?
And what's happening all the time is people are losing their self-identity.
They're losing their uniqueness and becoming part of the herd.
This is the process that makes you part of the herd.
The fear of being different in a world of uniformity.
And being different is something we should celebrate.
It's actually what it's all about.
Celebrating and expressing your uniqueness.
Because we all have this unique, if we get out of the herd mentality, we all have this unique spin on life.
And we should be celebrating that and not running away from it.
I agree, and I think that was the answer.
I think, like, how would you like people like you?
I think by being your authentic self.
I think faking it does the opposite, and it becomes inauthentic.
I think people love real people, regardless of their opinions, regardless of who they are.
They love authenticity at this point.
They're starving for it. Yeah, and look, you know, what I said earlier about these two kind of mentalities that are appearing, those that are kind of seeing and asking questions and going, hey, what the hell is going on here?
Because something is. And those that are just following, the herd mentality among that group, because of what's happened since the turn of 2020, has got more intense.
It's got more extreme.
Whereas there's another group that's moving out of that and expressing themselves in a different way.
And that's why you can see two very different mentalities now in the world.
And of course, the majority are still the ones that follow.
But we live in hope.
Yeah, that's true. I feel like we could talk for nine more hours.
You're one of the most interesting people I fell into recently on this David Icke rabbit hole, I feel like.
But is there any social media or anything you want to throw out?
Are you allowed to have social media even?
Or is there anything you want to throw out?
Maybe your books on Amazon or something you want people to check out?
Well, no.
I'm not an indie mainstream social media.
I've been throwing up all night.
I thought that after I asked.
And I was on Parler and we were starting to get some big numbers there and then you see what happened to Parler.
It's back now. Oh, it's back now, is it?
It came up yesterday, yeah.
All right, great stuff.
Well, yeah, so I'll be back on that then.
So I'm on Gab and Telegraph and all these different things as well.
And that's another great thing, you know, that wonderful phrase that necessity is the mother of invention.
You know, people are now starting to respond and not go down the victim road of All up for me, I've been deleted.
It's like, okay, so what do we do?
How do we get around it? How do we create our own networks?
And that's the thing that's going to bring this down, not being the victim.
And, you know, it's very freeing, really.
I never did edit myself.
On Twitter and Facebook.
I never did. Well, you know, basically, I never went on there, but the news stories were put on there by my son.
But I never kind of thought, well, I better not post this or what will happen.
I just did it. But you still got a feeling, you know, I wonder if they'll do anything about this.
But it's so freeing when you just know that it won't happen because you're communicating through a medium that believes in freedom of speech and won't be, you know, censoring you and what have you and deleting you because of your opinion.
So it's very freeing.
And, you know, some of those parlour ideas We're starting to get big numbers.
And, you know, this is the way we need to go.
Not feel sorry for ourselves, but just get on with it.
Because they're telling us something.
They're telling us these big, powerful social media companies are all not only owned by the cult, they were created by them.
Your Zuckerbergs and Sandbergs at Facebook and your Dorsies at Twitter and your Brin and Pages at Google, they're only front people.
And Wachiski at YouTube, they're just front people.
They're just gophers.
The real control is going on somewhere else.
That's why it's all so coordinated often.
But what they're telling you is actually they're not as powerful as they want you to think.
Because you know I'm in this little flat just off the south coast of England turning out stuff in my computer and what have you and they think I'm so dangerous and such a threat to them they have to knock me off all their platforms that says you something because I don't feel the need to censor them I could care less but they need to feel the need to censor me because their narratives Are so ridiculous and unsupportable by the evidence, especially the COVID story, that the only way they can protect it is by censoring those that expose it.
And that's where they are now.
And the more hysterical the censorship gets, the more they're telling you how much power you really have and how frightened of you they really are.
And one of the things that they are desperate to do, I go into this elsewhere, but they're desperate to get this...
This vaccine, this COVID vaccine, which is not a vaccine, actually, into everybody.
And they know they're getting big pushback.
They know as they come down into younger people that they've got a real battle on their hands to get the numbers that they want.
And so now they're doing everything they can.
To get people to have it.
They're desperate. They're censoring like crazy.
They are talking about these vaccine passports.
You can't do anything unless you have the vaccine.
It's all telling you they're not as powerful as they want you to believe.
Big Brother is not as big as it wants you to believe.
And there's eight billion of us getting on for anyway.
And you get the inner core of this cult in a single room.
So the answer is staring us in the face.
We've just got to grasp it. I definitely agree.
I think the veil has been lifted, and we were able to see how weak everybody was.
I don't know what it did, but the last couple of years, a lot more people are seeing through it.
Guys like you and Joan have been saying it forever, but I think normal people, what I consider people that don't hyper-focus on it, are starting to realize it's my neighbors and stuff.
It's interesting to see how this goes.
Yeah, it will be. One of the key areas, or one of the key times, Is when you've got, and we're closing in on it, my God, when enormous numbers of people have got nothing left to lose.
You know, while you've got something left to lose, you might edit yourself, censor yourself and keep your mouth shut and conform in the hope of not losing what you've got to lose.
But when you've lost it, you've got nothing to lose now.
And that usually manifests a very, very different mentality and approach once that point's reached and, you know, vast numbers of people are getting there.
And that's going to be the time when we're going to see where this goes.
When people in large, large numbers reach that point, nothing left to lose.
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