Design Of The Global Enigma - David Icke Talks To The Hidden Gateway Podcast
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♪♪♪ What's up, everybody?
Welcome back to another episode of the Hidden Gateway podcast.
I am your host, Justin Williams, and man, do we have a treat for you today.
Today's guest sits at the top of his game, and we will be discussing aliens, the Illuminati, 5G, the reptilian race, Q, New World Order, reality being an illusion, secret societies, and And even Mr.
Bill Gates. My guest today is a world-class lecturer, author, and even a former footballer.
It is the man, the legend, all the way from the UK, Mr.
David Icke. David, thank you for being on the Hidden Gateway Podcast.
How are you today? I'm good, mate.
Are we going to get all of that in an hour?
Hey, we're going to do our best.
We are going to do our best.
Alright, hey, first and foremost, thank you so much for being here.
This is a great day for the Hidden Gateway Podcast.
I have been following your work for some time.
Just so you know, I had a spiritual experience a few years back where I asked for truth, okay, and the very first thing that came to me, and it came immediately, and I mean immediately, was Was that nothing is as it seems.
I heard it audible.
It was an audible that it just came through.
Shortly after that I saw one of your videos on YouTube for the very first time.
And the thing that caught me was that you challenged the narrative.
And that really resonated with me.
So I went through this entire journey.
I started following you more and more.
And for me to be sitting here today interviewing you is definitely a treat.
Well, it's my pleasure, mate.
And I tell you what, wherever that voice or whatever came from was absolutely right.
Nothing, nothing is as it seems on any level.
Absolutely. I truly believe that wholeheartedly.
I really do. I would imagine, David, that most people call you a conspiracy theorist, but I have a feeling that you don't put that label on yourself.
Am I correct? What do you consider yourself?
Well, I'm a researcher, and you could call it a conspiracy researcher, in the sense that I realized that there was a global conspiracy to enslave humanity in a global fascist, communist, whatever you want to call it, dictatorship, a long, long, long time ago.
And so I've been uncovering it ever since.
So I suppose you could say I'm a conspiracy researcher.
It's worth making the point that these phrases of conspiracy theorist and conspiracy theory actually came from the CIA. They came into wide use through the CIA in the 1960s.
When people started to question, I mean, why wouldn't they, the official story of the Kennedy assassination?
And then, of course, you had the...
The tragedies of Martin Luther King later in the 60s, and of Bobby Kennedy, Malcolm X, and so on.
And people were starting to big-time question, what the hell's going on?
And you can see this.
You can find it still on the internet, or at least you could the last time I looked.
The CIA put out a document to major media organizations in America.
And they urged them to use the terms conspiracy theorist and conspiracy theory to try to discredit people that weren't buying the narrative of what was happening in the 60s.
And these journalists, well, they call themselves journalists, my God.
Who just repeat this garbage now.
Oh, he's a conspiracy theorist.
So, okay, so that means you don't listen to them at all then.
Oh, no, they're a conspiracy theorist.
They're repeating, they won't know that, what the CIA started putting out in the 1960s.
And you know the things with conspiracies, it's really hilarious, really.
Oh, it's a conspiracy.
Oh, there aren't any conspiracies.
The dictionary definition of conspiracy is merely two or more people Conspiring together to bring about a particular outcome, usually illegal.
So we're drowning in conspiracies.
And, you know, if people said to me, you see conspiracies everywhere, I don't.
I see one conspiracy.
Which has multiple, multiple faces and expressions.
And in the end, they all connect.
I care if it's the COVID virus hoax, if it's the human-caused global warming hoax, if it's the banking scam.
It doesn't matter.
They all, in the end, connect into one global network.
And if we can dismantle that network Then this world would just become a phenomenally nicer, better, more just and fair world overnight because of the scale of manipulation that actually is going on to create what we call human society.
Got it. Very good.
Well said. And just to kind of reiterate what you said, I saw a video one time where you talked about it being like a web.
And everything circles back to the one, I don't want to say person or group of people, but they're in cahoots together to create all these so-called conspiracies, right?
That's right. It's actually very simple.
The structure is very simple, and it has to be.
If it was complex, really complex, it couldn't work.
They couldn't pull it off.
Now, in the way it plays out, it appears to be complex.
What's happening here? What's happening there?
What's happening there? What's happening there?
But in its structure, it's ever so simple.
You've got a global web, which can be very accurately symbolized as a spider's web, and you've got a spider in the middle.
The spider is the inner core of what I call the global cult, and the global cult is a network of secret societies with an interlocking leadership.
And semi-secret groups, and then eventually it goes out into the world of the scene through governments, government agencies, the banking system, the medical system, the World Health Organization, Silicon Valley, and so on.
And what appears to be different corporations and different institutions are Actually are controlled by the same web, ultimately.
And so what appears to be random events going on and random decisions are not random at all.
They're coordinated. And I have this phrase, know the outcome and you'll see the journey.
And if people know or knew what the outcome is planned to be, where the world is being directed, then instead of seeing random events all the time, they will see very clearly that we are being taken on what I call the totalitarian tiptoe, it's the totalitarian sprint now, in the direction of that outcome.
So when you think that they want a global dictatorship, With a world government, world army, actually a world police military force, the fusion of the two, and a world central bank, a single world currency, which wouldn't be cash at all, and a situation where the human brain is actually connected to artificial intelligence.
They're openly talking about this.
Yes, right. When you realize that's the outcome that's wanted.
Suddenly, the world looks a different place and the events since the turn of 2020 start to make total sense because if you are going to control billions of people and you want them dependent upon you, So that they must do what you say just to get enough to survive.
Then what you absolutely must do is destroy the independent incomes, livelihoods, businesses and employment of the population.
Because while they've got that independent income, they are not dependent on you,
but you need to destroy that, then you've got dependency.
And that's what these lockdowns around the world have absolutely been about, nothing to do with health,
but to shut businesses down to the point where they're destroyed.
And the idea is that all commerce and all business is actually run, controlled by the massive
global corporations that are owned ultimately by the cult, this global cult.
And so when you look at not only the extraordinary corporations Devastation and catastrophe that's unfolded for small, medium, even some big businesses that are not cult-controlled and cult-owned.
And then against that You see that the cult-owned corporations, indeed creative corporations, like Amazon and Facebook and Twitter and Google, big-time Google and YouTube, they have made phenomenal profits and expanded their wealth, thus controlled massively.
At the same time, during the same situation that has destroyed...
Small, medium and even some big businesses.
And it's all systematic.
It was planned from the start.
And so what they keep doing now, because they need to keep it going, They need to keep the population in fear so that they will accept in large enough numbers continuing house arrest in lockdowns so that this process of destroying independent livelihood can be brought to fruition.
So what they did last spring is they said we have to have these lockdowns because we have this deadly virus.
And I said right from the start back in March, there is no virus.
It's an invention. And never, ever in that whole period has that been more obvious than now, as the evidence has grown and grown and grown that that's the case.
But we had to believe that there was a deadly virus.
And so what they did What they did was they didn't have enough dead people which they could allege was caused by the virus.
So what they did was got an organisation in London, the Imperial College, and particularly a bloke called Professor Neil Ferguson.
Who has a catastrophic history of predicting medical scenarios.
Catastrophic. But what he does do, which is why they keep employing him, is he tells them what they want to hear.
And so if you want to justify lockdowns and you don't have actually...
The evidence of this deadly virus to justify lockdowns, then you get someone like Ferguson to produce computer models, which he did, to project that if there's not lockdown and people aren't put in a house arrest, he said half a million people in Britain would die and 2.2 million in America.
Similar for other countries as well.
Very high death rates. Now, of course, they've not turned out to be true, but it doesn't matter because the key thing, the lockdowns were secured and the process of destroying, not only destroying businesses, but killing vast numbers of people, not least the elderly, through lack of treatment as COVID-19, quote, became the only show in town for the health services.
Right. The process has been, and this is how it works, what I call the totalitarian tiptoe, is you move incrementally through a script.
The script is in place before it all starts, like the content of the vaccine was all in place before they played the virus hoax to justify the vaccine, which is not even a vaccine.
It doesn't even fall into the definition, the official definition of a vaccine anyway.
Interesting, interesting.
But anyway, what it is, it's an incremental script.
So masks weren't in the script at the start, because it's all a psychological game, you see.
It's all psychology.
It's all perceptual manipulation.
Because when there's a few of you compared with your target population, the only way you're going to...
Control that population is to get them to perceive, believe, and therefore behave the way you want them to.
So if you give them too much too early, you're going to get pushback.
So what you do is you get the lockdowns in, you get other things in, and then you start bringing in the masks, which are not only not about protecting health, they're about destroying it.
And also, they have a massive psychological implication.
So then you introduce the masks, okay?
And then you introduce mandatory masks in shopping places.
Then you introduce mandatory masks in other places.
Now it's starting to move outside, etc.
And now if you look at what's being suggested now, and the CDC have announced it, about wearing two masks.
And one doctor, who I wouldn't trust to diagnose, let alone treat, in growing toenails, is talking about the need for four masks.
And so this is how it goes.
It's incremental. You know, if they'd have, you know, brought all this in at the start, they'd have had pushback.
But instead, they do it incrementally.
So now...
As the population has started to see through the months of the summer to present time, that actually this deadly virus is not actually deadly at all.
And they start to realize that in the same period that this COVID-19 with flu-like symptoms has apparently emerged, Flu, with flu-like symptoms, has disappeared.
Why? Because it's been redesignated COVID-19.
It's a scam, a complete scam.
And so the fear was dropping, especially in the run-up to Christmas.
People were saying, you know, more and more people were saying, certainly in my experience, This is a scam.
They're lying to us.
So what happened then?
Just as they were trying to get people to have this fake vaccine, they start introducing variants that are more transmissible and more deadly and all this stuff.
Oh, we've got a Kent variant in Britain in the southeast of England.
Oh, now we've got a South African variant.
Oh, now we've got a Brazilian variant.
And it's all made up.
There is no virus.
This virus, they claim, has never, and this is fact, they've been given nearly a year now to prove otherwise, and they can't.
This virus has never been isolated from other genetic material and be shown to exist.
It's never been done.
And what they've done is...
They've generated a computer program which they're claiming is the virus.
I mean, people keep saying, you know, this is COVID-19.
Here's a picture of it.
That's not COVID-19.
That's a computer-generated image.
You can only see a virus under an electron microscope because it's so...
Minute, so small, which is why masks are useless, because the holes in the masks are bigger than viral particles, even if there was a virus.
And so you have this situation where the whole thing's a psychological scam.
And just to quickly mention the vaccine, it's not a vaccine.
The official definition, CDC definition of a vaccine, is something that affects and impacts upon the immune system.
To protect the person from a particular disease.
That's basically the definition of a vaccine.
But these vaccines that they are, or alleged vaccines that they are pumping into people now, and people are dying and having major problems.
Adverse responses and reactions are not about protecting through that means I've just described.
They don't even claim that they are going to stop transmission of this alleged virus, and they don't claim that it will protect you from it.
They just claim, and even that's unsupportable.
By the evidence from the trials, but it might reduce symptoms a bit.
And these trials, which usually take years and years and years, have been done in months because they've not been trials at all.
And they've been done by the manufacturers.
The manufacturers have done the trials and then they've given the authorities...
The evidence from the trials and the authorities said, okay, that's fine then.
And they've given these fake vaccines emergency approval because they can't give them full approval because...
The tests haven't been done.
And now we're seeing, especially with older people, the elderly, the consequences of that.
I've just been watching a video by a whistleblower in the health service in Britain called the National Health Service, the NHS, and he works in a care home with the elderly.
And he's not the first one.
There was a nurse, an American nurse, who said virtually the same from his experience in a care home about two or three days ago.
But their patients were fine They didn't even get this virus.
Never mind die of it.
They were all fine. Then soon as they got the vaccine, they started dying.
As the American nurse said, they started going down like flies.
And what this NHS nurse was saying on the tape is that From his analysis, the number of elderly people dying after having the vaccine has increased by 81% compared with before they had the vaccine.
And this American nurse, Whistleblower, was pointing out that although His patients were going, quote, down like flies after having the vaccine.
Those that didn't have the vaccine, they're still fine.
So this is extraordinary that's going on.
And what the vaccine is, is not a vaccine.
It's actually a medical procedure.
What they're doing is they're putting synthetic material...
Into the cells.
And it is changing the nature of the body because the plan is to change the body from a biological state to a synthetic biological state, which is why synthetic biology is a massively expanding discipline of science now.
And this is the start of it.
They are putting this synthetic material which enters the cells.
And as I said back in the spring, They say, oh, we'll have a vaccine and we'll be fine.
It won't be like that.
I said, what they're going to do is say that, oh, you're going to have to have the vaccine every year or in one suggestion every six months.
And so the synthetic material they're putting in with vaccine one Further goes in with vaccine, too.
And then as you have more and more of them, the effect will be compounded and compounded.
And they've just brought out a flu vaccine called FluBlock, which is another one that has been given emergency approval in Britain because it's not shown to be safe through the trials.
Mm-hmm. And surprise, surprise, that too is a synthetic manipulator of DNA known as a mRNA vaccine.
So, you know, you're looking at a massive scam.
And if people have read my books or if they read my books now from, you know, two or three years ago, or if they read them from decades ago, they're going to be shocked at what's in them compared with what is being done in the name of protecting people from COVID-19.
Wow. That's evil.
That's the first thing that comes to mind.
And I know you mentioned this cult that manufactures all the chaos and confusion that has been going on in the world.
And I've also heard you talk about the reptilian race and the elite being part of that, or these shapeshifters.
Is the reptilian, are they...
Well, can I come to that in a second?
Because if people are watching this, they'll say, well, hold on a minute.
How do you pull off The COVID hoax.
What about the people who are said to be dying of it?
And what about all the cases?
I just want to just make this point.
Sure. The way it's been pulled off, and I will get into the other stuff then very quickly, but the way it's been pulled off is two ways.
The test And claiming that people with no symptoms can pass it on.
Those two things are the absolute foundation of it all.
So the test that they're claiming proves all these cases is called the RT-PCR test.
It was invented by an American called Kerry Mullis in the 1980s.
He won the Nobel Prize for it.
And he said publicly and vehemently, this test cannot detect infectious disease.
It can't do it.
That's not why it was made and created.
So what they're doing is using a test that's actually not testing for an infectious disease and claiming when it, you know, pings positive that that's the case.
This is why the vast majority of people who test positive in these tests have no symptoms.
Of course, there's nothing wrong with them.
Because what this test does, it tests or uses minute amounts of genetic material.
Not a virus, but genetic material, which has many and various elements to it, many that are natural to the body.
And It will find positives in that genetic material, but not for the virus.
And what they do with the test is they use a system of amplification, which in effect means they blow it up and blow it up and get more and more and more copies of it.
And what amplification means is the more you amplify We're good to go.
And even someone like Fauci, who's a complete and utter crook with a long record of crookery, even he says, getting us to believe in this PCR test, that if you go beyond 35 cycles of amplification, then it's a waste of time because so much basically has been made sensitive to the test that everything above that is going to be fake positives.
I say 100% of big positives for SARS-CoV-2 COVID-19.
But there's one testing company.
That's testing for people whether they've got this virus or not.
That's using 50 cycles of amplification.
Someone said a stone would test positive at 50 cycles of amplification.
This is why in Tanzania, you saw this, in Tanzania they sent off because the president there had sussed that, hey, this is a scam.
Right. So they sent off a test specimen for a paw paw fruit and a goat.
And they sent it off with fictitious human names and they came back positive.
Yes, yes.
So that's the scam.
And in January 2020.
Another guy with a horrific record called Christian Drosten in Germany, a virologist, he comes up
with the protocol to test for covid-19 through the PCR test, which can't test
for infectious disease.
I mean, you couldn't make it up. And his protocol, A, was not peer-reviewed by other scientists.
They say it was peer-reviewed in 24 hours.
In other words, it wasn't.
And he works with a guy who owns a company that makes the tests from the protocols that he comes up with.
So, you know, fortunes are made in this way.
And then immediately after he came up with this protocol, the World Health Organization, which is a complete cult-owned organization, it was created by the Rockefellers originally as part of the UN. The guy, Ted Ross, who's the Director General of the World Health Organization and just a voice piece for Gates, who owns it, He's the biggest funder until Biden, you know, starts putting American government money in again.
And Ted Ross immediately said to the countries of the world, this Drosten protocol is the one to use to test for whether people have COVID-19 or not.
Drosten is currently being taken to court, as is Ted Ross, by a prominent German lawyer for crimes against humanity, for all the mayhem and catastrophe that's come from what I've just described.
So, first of all, the cases are not cases, because the test is not testing for a virus.
Second, if you test positive with an RT-PCR test and you die of any cause, any cause within 28 days and, you know, more, up to 60 days in some cases, then COVID-19 goes on your death certificate.
We've had people die of COVID-19 who've fallen down the stairs, had a motorcycle accident.
There was a coroner in America who came out and pointed out that something like a fifth of COVID-19 deaths in his county had bullet shot wounds.
Yeah, but this is what happens.
You test positive for a test, not testing for the virus, die within a certain period, which it seems to be getting longer, and now you're a COVID death.
So you see where the cases and the deaths are coming from.
And then the third point, before we get onto those deeper areas you mentioned, is asymptomatic transmission.
See, the big problem they had, they had to have the lockdowns for all the reasons I've described.
But most people who test positive with this test not testing for the virus have no symptoms.
So what do we do?
Because... How do we justify lockdown?
So what they did was come up with a colossal lie, with no evidence, that people who test positive, with a test not testing for the virus, but have no symptoms, can still pass it on.
And that is the whole foundation of lockdown.
The foundation and the excuse for the first time Over isolating healthy people and not just the sick.
And those things, the test and asymptomatic transmission lie, they're the two things on which this whole thing is founded.
But just very quickly then, I've written in the books for decades about the multi-level of this cult because This web that I'm describing operates in the world of the scene.
It operates within human society.
It keeps itself in the hidden as much as it can, but it operates in the world that we call the world.
But this spider is not just operating in this world that we call human society.
It goes out of this reality into other realities, and it's not human.
And in the end, it's a form of deeply distorted, inverted, chaotic, psychopathic consciousness, which takes many forms.
It can take a form that we call, quote, extraterrestrial.
But in its base form, it's a very distorted, psychopathic state of consciousness, which expresses itself Through this entire cult network that I'm talking about.
And that's why the people that you see that are pushing, for instance, this COVID and COVID fake vaccine agenda are psychopaths like Bill Gates.
The man's a psychopath. Anthony Fauci is a psychopath.
They're all psychopaths.
Ted Ross at the World Health Organization, psychopaths.
And there's something called the hair test, named after the guy who discovered it or put it together, for psychopathic traits.
And if you have enough of them, you are officially designated a psychopath.
And at the top are no empathy, the inability to put yourself in the feelings of people you affect, and no compassion.
And when you look at the human catastrophe, That's unfolded since the turn of 2020, all across the world.
And, you know, how could anyone With a smear of empathy or compassion, coldly orchestrate that, knowing and then seeing what the consequences are for billions of people and kids, etc. You couldn't if you have any empathy or compassion.
But these people don't.
And I would just say, you know, if you just imagine That no matter what you did, however horrific, you would not have any emotional consequence personally for doing it.
You wouldn't feel bad.
In fact, you'd get off on it.
This is the level of psychopathy we're talking about.
And it's an expression of this consciousness which is ultimately behind all this, which the ancients and ancient societies and the shamans of different cultures have been talking about for a long, long time.
Wow, okay.
And you said that this consciousness can take on extraterrestrial ability or life form, is that correct?
Yeah, well, let me give you an example.
I just mentioned that, you know, around the world, the carriers of the ancient knowledge of the various cultures, they all talk about this.
This force that's operating from the hidden and is manipulating human society, and it's doing it through this cult network I'm talking about.
That's why this cult network, especially its major players, are into Satanism, etc.
Because they do sacrifices, literally, to the gods.
And you go back in history, and these sacrificial religions, etc., were done openly.
And then humanity reached a point of maturity where it wasn't having that anymore.
And this went underground, but it's still going on.
In my books, there's enormous amounts of evidence that's been put together about the satanic ritual background to some of the most famous people in the world over the decades that I've been doing this, because they do it under cover of secrecy, whereas before, way back, it was done openly.
They used to talk about doing sacrifices to the gods, sacrificing young virgins to the gods in the ancient world.
Well, young virgins was just Was just code for children.
And so it's not surprising that, you know, in my research over the decades, and this means talking to people who've taken part in some of this stuff, that the sacrifice of children continues today in the hidden.
And, you know, when you talk to people around the world and the shamans and what have you, they will talk about the same thing.
The number of children that disappear every year is absolutely fantastic.
And you don't hear about most of it.
And so when you look at the common themes between these various cultures, it is extraordinary.
And this force, manipulating from the hidden, is given different names by different religions and different cultures, but they're talking about the same force.
So Christianity talks about the demons.
Islam talks about the jinn.
In the Zulu area of South Africa or the Zulu culture in South Africa, they talk about the Chittahuri or the children of the serpent and the devastators is another name they give to them.
And then you have the Gnostic belief system.
And in 1945, a treasure trove of texts Written by the Gnostic people in Egypt, which it's estimated that they were put into an earthen jar.
At around 400 AD. And in 1945, that earthen jar was found at a place called Nagamadi, about 75, 80 miles north of Luxor in Egypt.
And inside was this treasure trove of writings and accounts by these Gnostic people.
And a fifth of the writings were about a force they called the Archons.
And the archon is a Greek word meaning rulers, because these Gnostics were very influenced by the Greeks.
You know, the Plato's and people like that.
And they describe how This world is manipulated from the hidden by these archons, this archontic force.
And the way they describe them is very similar to the way, you know, Islam describes the jinn.
And so...
You see these common themes under different names for this force, and this is what's behind all this, ultimately.
And, you know, we talk about what's happening in the world here with secret societies, etc.
And why are they secret?
Because they want to keep enormous amounts of knowledge from the population about the nature of reality, about this force that's ultimately behind them, and about the agenda for the world to create this global fascist communist dictatorship.
And so you've got two worlds within one.
You've got the world that the population lives in, where knowledge is fiercely limited and controlled.
And then you've got the world of the cult, where knowledge of much greater advancement is passed on through the secret society network, so the population never see it.
And what people like me do is uncover the information here and then pass it on to the public.
And for a long time, of course, the What's going on here is just incomprehensible to the population because one of the greatest ways of suppressing perception is to suppress and limit a sense of the possible.
You squeeze the sense of what's possible so that what these are doing Their level of possibility is just waved away.
Oh, no, that's not possible.
They could never be doing that by the population.
No, no, you don't believe they could be doing that because the way and the means that they're doing that has been kept from you.
So you don't think it's possible, but they're using it against you all the time.
And a lot of it is...
Perceptual manipulation to get the people to believe what suits the cult and therefore behave in the way that suits the cult.
And just quickly, what a wonderful example of that we had from the start of 2020.
People went meekly under house arrest because they perceived there was a deadly virus.
This is the way it works.
Get them to believe what you want and they'll do what you want.
Wow. You know, earlier, David, just to switch gears a little bit, you talked about AI and the human brain.
I heard you say on a video one time, and this is, quote, conspiracy to enslave humanity is a psychological game.
The outcome that they want to connect the human brain to AI, so AI becomes human consciousness.
Can you talk about that?
Can you go deep on that for us?
Absolutely. And, you know, For most of the last 30 plus years that I've been doing this, I've been communicating information that was happening under the radar.
And that's why so many people, until more recently, have just gone, oh, that's not happening, mate.
You must be crazy. But there comes a point, I said a long time ago that point would come, where if you want to transform human society in a particular way, Then there comes a point where, yeah, you can get closer and closer to it under the radar, but there comes a point where if you're going to change society, society has to change in the way you want to change it.
And at that point, you break the surface.
You come from the hidden and you enter the scene.
And what happens then is that instead of hiding your plans, which you've done up to this point, you start to sell them because your plans have to enter the public arena because otherwise the world won't be transformed as you want.
So, for instance, I've been talking about the fact for decades of this plan for decades.
An absolute total transformation of human society into a centralized global dictatorship.
And now they're openly talking about it.
They call it the Great Reset.
Another kind of code for it is Build Back Better, which Biden's all going on about, and Johnson, the British Prime Minister, is going on about, and Trudeau in Canada is going on about, because they're reading the same script, the same phrases.
What you just mentioned in the question He's now being openly talked about by the crazes of Silicon Valley.
So if you look at Ray Kurzweil, who is a so-called futurist and executive of Google, he's over recent times, indeed going back a bit, been saying that by 2030, the human brain will be connected to AI. And, of course, that can't be hidden anymore because that's what they want to do.
You can't hide what's actually happening in people's, you know, in front of people's eyes.
So he's got a sales pitch now.
It's not about hiding it anymore.
It's about selling it. And his sales pitch is that it will make us superhuman when he knows and the cult knows that it will make us subhuman and posthuman.
And he openly says that when that connection is made, AI... We'll do more and more of human thinking until human thinking as we've known it is basically negligible.
And that's the plan.
And like I say, he's given a few years ago now, he gave the time when this was supposed to get really underway of 2030.
We're obviously now talking in 2021.
And the idea is That all human minds are connected to AI. And then AI basically controls a hive human mind, like a queen bee controlling the hive.
And so you won't think anymore.
See, up to this point, they've had to manipulate and censor information.
To manipulate perception from the information you receive, you form your perceptions.
But where they're going now, they won't even need to manipulate information because your perceptions will come direct.
From AI. And, you know, they're in the process of creating what they call the smart grid, which is where all technology, from your fridge to your car, everything, is connected to the internet and to artificial intelligence.
And they call it the internet of things.
It's massively advanced already.
And then there's the next stage, which is called the internet of everything, which is all that plus AI connects to the human brain.
And this smart grid needs at least what they call a 5G level of communicative power to run and to be possible.
In the way that they want.
And although, you know, they're rolling out this 5G now very fast around the world with no testing, none.
They've admitted that in its effect on humans' health and psychology.
But they're already talking about 6G and 7G. Wow.
So what we're looking at is this massive radiation field connecting everything.
And so The human body, for instance, the biological human body, will not be able to cope with the level of radiation that is going to be necessary to run this thing.
Already, there are people around the world who are living in caravans in the forest because they have developed electrosensitivity.
Where it's destroying them in terms of health and psychology when they're in these ever more powerful electromagnetic fields.
But of course, if you're going to cover every inch of the planet with this communicative Wi-Fi field, if you like, what they call the cloud, then the only way you're going to do that is from space.
And that's why frauds like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos and others are putting up phenomenal numbers of satellites in low orbit, beaming this stuff at the planet.
I called it way back in my books, before it ever became known as the smart grid, I called it a technological generated sub-reality.
Which is what they're creating.
And so we are We are looking, therefore, and this is one reason for it, there are others, at transforming the human body, as I described earlier, into a synthetic biological state, which will be more able to cope with this massive radiation that is going to be necessary to run this grid.
Far more even, far more even than we have now.
And, you know, I'm coming up 69.
So I was born in 1952.
During the 50s and early 60s, and even most of the 60s, if you looked at the technologically generated radiation that we lived with in those days, it was infinitesimal compared with what we're living with now.
Again, it's not anything like reached where it's meant to go.
That's crazy. That sounds like Matrix Part 8 or something.
That is insane.
Wow. This is another interesting point, you see.
Because when I saw the first Matrix movie, I had already, by that time, sussed a great deal about what was going on.
And I thought, well, this is a godsend to me, because there's now a visual representation of what I've concluded.
Because, you know, from around the turn of the millennium, I became convinced that we live in a virtual reality simulation.
And what's happened over the years since, I mean, there was an academic at Oxford University, a guy called Nick Bostrom, and he was about the only other person who was talking about, and he saw it in a different way to me, but he was about the only other person I found that was talking about the fact that we live in a simulation, or could do. But now, These years later, it's more and more entering the mainstream that we live in a simulation because the questions and the mysteries about reality and everything,
suddenly the mist clears and it all makes sense and it all falls into place when you realize that we live in a simulation.
And when I was writing some of the books about this some years ago, and then I came across what I mentioned earlier, the Nag Hammadi texts of the Gnostics, which were put in that earthen jar around 400 AD. What they're describing, because I've got them all up there in book form, in book form.
Really thick volumes of what was in the text.
And they're describing the fact that this Archon force created a fake reality to mesmerize humans into believing that what they were experiencing was some kind of some natural phenomenon when actually it was a fake reality and true reality lies beyond it.
And as I read that, because I'd done a lot of research by that time, by the time I read them, into this whole virtual reality simulation stuff.
And what they're describing in 400 AD, in their own terms, is what we would call today a computer-generated simulation.
And what happens is if you only operate through the five sense level of reality, You don't expand your awareness into other expanded frequencies of consciousness, which we're all capable of doing, just a choice. But if you only stay in the five-sense arena, you're actually interacting pretty much only with this simulation, which people call the Matrix.
And so the Matrix movies had a tremendous amount of Of literal and symbolic truth in them about the current human plight.
And so if you are only operating within the five senses, you're interacting pretty much only with the simulation, and the simulation is your reality.
And it's feeding you your reality.
And when you start to expand your awareness, and you go beyond the frequency band of the simulation, if you like...
The world of the five senses.
Then you start to see things and become aware of things that you weren't aware of before, because now you're getting insight from expanded levels of awareness and not only from the simulation.
And if you expand enough, you start to see that is a simulation.
And, you know, I've quoted in the books many, many mainstream scientists Who have actually concluded that this is some kind of simulation that we're experiencing.
And, you know, to say the least, the world's not like we thought it was.
Exactly, exactly. And speaking of the world's not like we thought it was, that brings to mind the Mandela effect.
I would love to know your thoughts on that because I've seen things...
Years ago that are different today, heard things.
What are your thoughts on the Mandela Effect?
Is that real? And if it is, how and why?
This is an interesting kind of whole area because what is this reality that we are experiencing?
How does it manifest?
It seems, if you listen to the five senses, that it's a solid world where everything's apart from everything else, but it's not.
Not at all. The way we create reality is, first of all, what we call the world is a very narrow band of frequency.
According to mainstream science, the electromagnetic spectrum Is about 0.005% what exists in the universe.
Some say it's as high as 0.5%, but it's tiny.
And visible light, which is the only band of frequency that we can see, our entire visible reality is within this visible light frequency band.
That is a smear of the 0.005%.
So compared with infinite reality, humans are basically blind.
And I go into the books.
I don't think that's by accident.
See simulation.
And what happens is, and again, some mainstream people now are absolutely on board with this, which I've been writing for a very, very long time.
The world is not solid.
It's holographic.
And the whole foundation of this world is electromagnetic information fields.
Think Wi-Fi.
It's like a Wi-Fi field.
The body is like its own Wi-Fi field interacting with the bigger Wi-Fi field.
And the brain and the five senses, what they do is they take information in the form of frequency, not a solid world, frequency, and they communicate it to the brain, which then decodes that information into the holographic world that we think is outside of us, but it's actually inside of us.
And so if you look at...
How all the five senses work.
Take the ears.
It's a classic example.
We think, like I'm speaking now, that words are passing between us.
They're not. What's passing between us are frequency fields generated by my vocal cords.
And they're picked up by the ear sense, and they're decoded into an electrical signal.
An electrical version of the vibrational field.
That is then communicated to the brain, which decodes that information into words that we hear and sounds that we hear.
So people are not hearing what I'm saying now.
Until their brain has decoded that electrical signal, which was a frequency field, into the sound of me talking.
One of the things I say in the books is, does a falling tree make a noise?
The answer being, only if someone hears it.
Because the tree, in its base form, Is an electromagnetic field of information, and that information is what becomes the holographic projection of the tree.
And as it falls, it's falling through the The Wi-Fi field, the general field in which we all live.
And as those two frequencies interact, it creates a frequency disturbance in the field.
As that frequency field moves through the wider frequency field, it creates a disturbance in the field.
Now, if there's nobody there to decode that disturbance, then a falling tree doesn't make any noise.
If there's somebody there That vibrational disturbance is picked up by the ears, turned into an electrical signal, communicated to the brain, and the brain decodes it into the sound of a tree falling.
So it's all an illusion.
And so what is happening all the time is that the senses are receiving frequency information, taste, You don't taste anything until the electrical connection to the brain has been communicated and then the brain communicates into that's lovely or that's horrible.
You know, there are forms of pain suppression now whereby they break the signal going from the point of the pain to the brain.
Because if that signal is not communicated to the brain, you can't feel pain.
Because if you bang your shin, you don't say ouch until your brain decodes the pain.
It's all this information in the form of frequency being decoded by the brain and then formed together in a sense of reality.
So you've got different parts of the brain, the visual parts at the back here, that specialize in decoding...
Information from the different senses, then the brain as a whole puts it all together into a sense of reality.
I'm coming round to the Mandela effect.
Because if what we're doing is decoding information into a sense of reality, then if the information changes, the sense of reality changes.
And, you know, it's not like this is how it is.
Because, no, this is how it is at the moment you're experiencing that.
Because at that moment, you are decoding information that makes things look like that.
But if the information changes, the same thing can seem different.
Or you can have a, if you like, a decoded perception of something.
And then later, you'll believe it to be true.
And then later, you'll find, actually, it wasn't true.
But I believed it all this time that it was true.
And I'm sure that I saw it.
I thought I saw it.
I'm not kidding. I saw it.
Well, maybe you did, maybe you didn't.
But the point is, whatever is our reality, it's what we're decoding in the moment.
Now, if we come back to this simulation...
This simulation is not outside of us.
This simulation is, in the form that we experience it, is again in here.
So if there was Wi-Fi in this room, my computer could decode that.
And it would put onto the screen in a completely different form, what we recognize as what goes on a computer screen, information That before it's decoded onto the screen in a completely different form, it's actually just vibrating all around us in the form of radiation, an information field.
That's what Wi-Fi is. And so we are decoding information into a reality.
So this simulation is not a physical thing.
It's an information source.
So if you, for instance, you are perceiving this reality, and then you put the headphones on, and you put the headset on, and you put the gloves on, what are they doing?
These different things in virtual reality games, they're hacking into the five-sense decoding system.
And so you've got an information source Coming to you through these various virtual reality connections, the gloves, the headset, the headphones, and your brain then decodes that information.
And what it does, in the same way that it decodes what we call real reality, what I would call the wider simulation, And that decoding of the virtual reality game, whatever it is, overrides much of the reality that you would otherwise be decoding.
And you've only got to see people with these headphones, headsets on, how they react.
They're reacting to what's going on and what they're seeing through the headset as if it's real, because it seems real.
And the more it advances, the more what's coming through the headset is pretty much a mirror in terms of its quality, its reality, what you would experience as what you call the world.
So what we're decoding is an information source.
And it's operating in a field of radiation.
And what they're doing with this smart grid is they're taking this matrix simulation down to an even smaller level.
So, you know, instead of decoding a greater reality, you're now basically through this satellite-generated, technologically generated field of radiation, the smart grid, what Kurzweil calls the cloud, you're now basically just decoding a planetary There's no greater reality.
In other words, your sense of perception is being squeezed into an even smaller level.
It's an even smaller simulation, if you like.
And it's being done for the complete control and subjugation of humanity by a complete control and subjugation of human perception.
But it doesn't have to happen.
None of this has to happen. There's billions of us, and there's a handful of them, comparatively.
I mean, at the core of the core of this cult, you get them into one room.
So the answer is there, but people have got to get informed.
And they've got to realize the scale of this and that, you know, waiting for someone to come along and change it all is not an option.
We've got to change it. We have to change it, right.
And this cult, and you know, I want to ask you something, David.
When we talk about this cult, the elite, the Illuminati, whatever they go by, whatever we want to name them, all the information that you provide, and you've been doing it for years, Why is it that these people haven't come for you?
Why is it that you're allowed to get away with sharing this much information?
I imagine that you I've probably personally experienced a lot of negativity, backlash, but you're still here.
And I don't want to group you with people like Julian Assange or Edward Snowden.
Maybe that's the right thing to do.
Maybe it's not. But I don't want to do that.
Obviously, we know their story.
But how is it that you are allowed to reveal as much as you do and not suffer any type of quote unquote consequences behind that or have you?
Well, I mean, depends what you call consequences.
I've been banned from YouTube, banned from Twitter, banned from Facebook.
The mainstream media in Britain have been told by the government regulator called Ofcom, the Office of Communications, that they can't have me on and they can't let me talk about these things that I write about.
The way that they have sought to discredit me and demonize me is through ridicule and through trying to dub me as a racist, which is extraordinary when you see my philosophy, which is that all of us are points of attention within the same state of consciousness, infinite consciousness.
We're all each other. And that the labels of human society, race, religion, sexuality, any of it, they're just experiences for that consciousness.
Very brief experiences.
Someone can have a brief experience called human as a Jewish guy, as a black guy, as a white guy.
Or a female, a male.
And it's an experience, and it's a very brief experience, but it's only an experience for the consciousness that ultimately we all are.
So when you look at that philosophy, it is the ultimate non-racist philosophy, because from that perspective, racism, judging someone by their body or their background or their sexuality or Or anything is ridiculous.
It's beyond childlike with the greatest respect to children.
But if they can't demonize you, Through what you stand for and what you say, then make it up.
And so that's what you face.
I mean, they just throw everything at me to try to demonize and ridicule and discredit me.
But you just keep going.
And amazingly, it just keeps expanding and expanding.
The more they've tried to censor me, Because what censorship?
It's controlling information which forms perception.
That's what censorship is about.
All the censorship that's gone on with these major companies, and yet the interest in my work just goes on expanding, expanding, expanding.
And, you know, there's something else, too, that, you know, probably take a long time to talk about, really.
But in brief, we shouldn't fall for the idea That there is a force seeking to control and impose.
And we are left at the mercy of it.
We're not. There are other forces at work that are working towards freeing humanity from this force.
And so it's not, you know, just as easy as we don't like what he's saying because we're going to take him out.
Because there's other forces at work.
And, you know, it's not meant to sound arrogant, because I'm just saying from my own experience.
But people say, why aren't you dead?
I've been asked it for decades.
And my answer is, because they can't kill me.
They can't. You know, I talked a few minutes ago about how we create reality.
And what impacts upon our experience is our perception.
Because when I'm saying that we are receiving information through the five senses all the time, well, not everyone decodes that information in the same way.
So I could be standing in the street and a car would go past.
And I'd say, oh, God, that's a nice car.
The person next to me would look at the same car decoding the same information.
And they'd say, well, I think it's horrible.
Because their perception is different.
So the way they decode reality is different, even in that very minor example.
And so if you, for instance, have a perception That you could be taken out by these criminals and psychopaths.
Then what you're doing is helping to manifest that.
You're helping it to happen because you are putting your perceptual state in a form that could decode that reality.
But I say that's not possible to do that to me.
And so I won't decode that reality.
And if I can't decode that reality, they can't do it to me.
They can throw information at me, but if I decode it in my way and not the way they want me to decode it, then they can't do that to me.
And I remember years and years ago, when people were, if I did an event, you know, around the world, I mean, I've spoken in so many better countries, it's unbelievable.
And people would say to me, do you want a bodyguard?
And I said, well, what is a bodyguard?
It's a symbol of me accepting that something could happen to me.
That's the last thing I want is a bodyguard.
I've gone all around the world and talked in loads of places and what have you and I've been fine and I'm going to go on being fine.
That's not to say me and authority won't come eye to eye and we'll have some interesting situations coming up because that's pretty inevitable when The extremes of the lockdown regulations and laws get more extreme, and I continue to ignore them.
At some point we probably are going to come eye to eye, but that's different.
In terms of taking me out, they can't do it.
I'll leave here when I choose to leave here, and it won't be for a very long time.
I love that. I love that. It reminds me of a video I watched where you talked about taking control of your life.
And it was a very powerful video.
Loved it. And I know we're coming up on the top of the hour, David.
I do have one last question for you.
What can be done to enhance the spiritual evolution of mankind against the negativity?
Well, you know... We can find a solution to things we don't like, or we can remove the cause of the problem.
And you've only got to look at the cult way of suppressing humanity to realize what the cause of the problem is.
Because these people don't do what they do for a bit of fun.
They do it because they have to do it if they're going to get the control that they want.
And so fundamental to...
Keeping humanity in ignorance and servitude is to get them to self-identify with the labels of the human world.
So if you said to somebody, hello, nice to meet you, who are you?
What they'll do is they'll probably give you their name, they'll give you their job, probably, they'll give you a bit of their life story, and I mean, they'll tell you their sexuality often these days, but what they're describing to people as this is me is not them at all.
They're describing the experiences that the true I, consciousness, is having.
And what's been happening in recent years through something called Identity Politics Is this cult has been systematically manipulating people into smaller and smaller perceptions of the eye.
So now you have this long list of letters, LVGT, and going on and on and on.
I mean, you know, massive in some places, not least universities.
And what's happened is the original labels of man, woman, race, whatever, are being subdivided and subdivided, smaller, smaller labels.
And people are self-identifying with smaller and smaller versions of themselves.
And every time you take a step into the minuti, again, of self-identity with labels, you're pulling yourself out of the greater self, consciousness, into the myopia of identifying with labels.
And it comes down in the end to self-identity.
Self-identity literally defines the self.
And this cult knows that because for all its sickness and for all its psychopathy and for all its evil, it's very, very clever and it understands how the psyche works and how to manipulate it.
So it's seeking to get us to self-identify with limitation.
And if you think of yourself as little me, then you'll live a little me life.
Because what happens, and I go into this in the books, it's a very simple process.
Your perceptions become your experience.
So your perception that I'm little me, I have no power, becomes an experience.
life of little me I have no power. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy because it's a self-fulfilling
perception that becomes an experienced reality. And so the more that they can pull people into
a self-identity with these labels, the smaller the better, the more they are putting people into
states of limited perception, thus limited experience.
But when you realize that these labels are experiences and the true I, the eternal I, that which continues when this brief human life is over, is actually that consciousness that's having the experience.
So I have an experience over the last 69 years called David Icke.
But that's an experience.
I am the consciousness having the experience.
When my human life comes to an end, David Icke will be part of history.
But the consciousness that had the experience called David Icke will be part of eternity.
And so if we identify with that part of us that is the eternal self, the experiencer and the observer, not the experience, then your sense of power, your sense of potential, the sense of how you can take control of your life transforms.
And you know, I've kind of done a lot of things in my life and I've seen a lot of things in the whole spiritual arena, particularly some years ago.
And I looked at it and I thought, you know, this is far more complicated than it needs to be.
And, you know, I've got no problem with people going on quests and fasts and all these stuff.
I mean, you know, great. But for me, the transformation from Human limitation to consciousness' infinite potential is simply a switch of self-identity.
I mean, when someone comes up to you and says, hello, nice to meet you, how often do people say, who are you?
And the other person says, oh, I'm an expression of all that is, has been, and ever can be.
And the other person says, oh, yeah, so am I. Never had that conversation.
But that's who we are.
And once you self-identify with that, the experience starts to...
You still experience.
I mean, you know, it's great. But the experience takes on a different perspective.
I call it the long game.
So if you're playing the short game and you're identifying with your labels and what the biblical three score years and ten of a human life...
Then things seem a certain way.
Authority can seem intimidating.
Law enforcement can seem intimidating.
Not doing as you sold can be intimidating.
But when you play the long game, which is I know this has been and ever can be, having an eternal journey of exploring infinity infinitely, then some bloke in a uniform telling you to wear a mask or some bloke in a dark suit with a, you know, With a clipboard telling you what you should do.
I mean, there's no intimidation there anymore.
I'm all that is and ever can be, and I'm intimidated by this bloke in fancy dress.
What? Right, right, right.
Their fear is removed.
Yeah, because you know it's irrelevant.
And the other thing is that You lose the fear of death, for instance, which is one of the great fears and limiters of humanity.
Fear of death, fear of the unknown.
Because when you have a fear of death, that's where doctors get their power from.
That's why people give their power away to doctors, most of whom, overwhelming, the majority of them don't even know what their body is, never mind how to treat it.
That's why, you know, the treatment is one of the biggest causes of death in places like America and the wider world, because they don't know what they're doing.
It's like asking me to fix a car.
I wouldn't know where to start. That's from how most doctors are, because their view of the body and how to treat it has simply come from the pharmaceutical cartel-funded medical schools.
So what you do when you play the long game is you do what you know to be right and you don't think about consequences in the way that you would within the short game three score years and ten because you've lost the fear of death for a start.
So People are always going through, even if they feel, I should do this, I should do this, it's right to do this, they go through this checklist of what are the consequences?
What are the consequences of me doing this?
And most of the time, and I don't understand it, that checklist means they'll go, I know I should do this, but I can't do it.
And I understand that.
But from the long game point of view, You don't have that conversation.
You just do what you know to be right.
And it doesn't mean, you know, you don't think of consequences in the sense that, you know, you walk across the road in front of a truck.
That's ridiculous. You know, you're streetwise enough to know, you know, you don't do that.
But what I mean is doing what you know to be right in terms of what you think you need to do in given circumstances and not let consequences Frighten you into not doing them.
Because when I was a footballer, I was a goalkeeper.
And... The worst part of playing football, professional football for me, was sitting in the dressing room before the game, because all the things that could go wrong were going through your head.
And then you went out on the pitch where you actually did it.
Most of the time, it was fine.
It was all those things you thought, oh my God, it didn't happen.
And it's the same with life, really.
I mean, I've found that.
You think, well, if you do this, there are going to be certain consequences.
But often there are not.
Because we do create our own reality from our perceptions and our attitudes, which are just a manifestation of perception.
And if you go for something in a certain perceptual state, then you will...
You will affect the outcome.
I mean, when I was a kid, I was terrified of dogs.
I don't know where that came from, but I was.
And I would go out and, you know, walk through the streets.
And dogs would come up to me and start barking at me.
And my mates, who weren't frightened of dogs, the dogs didn't do it to them.
They did it to me. And, you know, what I was doing, obviously, Was putting an energy out, because of my fear of dogs when I was a small kid, that the dogs were picking up.
So they were reacting to me, but they weren't reacting to my mates who couldn't give a damn about it.
I had no fear of dogs at all.
And when I lost the fear of dogs, dogs stopped coming up and barking at me.
Because we give off vibes.
Perceptions give off vibes, and those vibes attract to us manifestations of those vibes.
So our perceptions, our perceptual state, is constantly being broadcast as a frequency.
Different perceptual states, different emotions, different thoughts, different frequencies.
And what they do is they lock in to like frequencies that Within the field of information, they call it the quantum field of possibility and probability that we live in.
And they draw to us, we draw to ourselves, fields of information, fields of experience, which sync with what we're putting out.
So, again, if you think of yourself as little me, I have no power, nothing's ever going to happen to me that's more than mundane, then that goes out as a frequency.
And it connects with that part of the field of potential and possibility that reflects what you're putting out.
And so what you manifest is a life in which nothing ever happens to you except the mundane.
But it doesn't have to happen, because if you change your perception...
What you manifest will change.
Yes. And the point is, bringing it round to where we started, is this cult, particularly that it's in a core, knows this.
It knows that if it can control human perception, it will control human experience.
Yes. And in doing so, it will create a society that it wants to create via the perceptions of the population, which is why it's terrified of awakening.
It's terrified of that.
Right. The vibes they put out dramatically change.
The experiences they draw to them dramatically change.
And human society collectively starts to change.
As a result of that, the cult loses control when it's lost control of perception.
And if you look through the whole of history, it's the people, the shamans and so on going back.
The seers, they have been the ones that authority has always targeted.
Because, it's like Kredo Mutwa, the great Zulu shaman, said to me when the British Empire came in and took over South Africa.
He said, they milked the minds of the shamans and then killed them.
Because... It's the seers and the wider thinkers and perceivers That this cult is terrified of, always has been, because it goes back a long time.
Because they can communicate information and perceptions to the population, which change the perceptions of the population, and take them out of this cult perceptual control.
That's what they're terrified of.
And bringing it right round to current times, that's where the hysterical censorship is coming from.
They are censoring in an ever more hysterical way because they are terrified of the truth, not just about the COVID hoax, but about reality in general, widely communicating to the population because they know But when people start to realize the nature of who they are, the nature of this reality, and the nature of what's really behind world events, then their game is over.
Game, set, and match.
And they're terrified of it.
And that's why they're hysterical.
I mean, look, I'm a guy.
I'm sitting in a little flat on an island just off the south coast of England.
And yet, the giants of Silicon Valley...
And the people that regulate the mainstream media and all this stuff are terrified of me.
But are they terrified of me?
Much more they're terrified of the information that I'm communicating.
They know the impact of it.
And when you're telling a lie, You don't want to debate it in public because it'll be exposed as a lie.
The only way you're going to sell a lie is by censoring those that expose it to lie.
And that's what it's all about.
Perceptual control.
first second last is what this whole conspiracy is founded upon.
Perceptional control.
Well, there you have it, folks.
There you have it.
David, this was phenomenal.
You're a very, very intriguing man.
Very intriguing man.
And I want to thank you for coming on the Hidden Gateway podcast.
Before you go, real quick, can you tell the Hidden Gateway listeners how they can contact
you, your website information, how they can buy your books?
Yeah, everything they can find at davidike.com.
Every day, the news on davidike.com, it takes the world events and the news stories and puts them in the context of why they're really happening and not why...
We're told they're happening.
Behind me is called Iconic.
It's now a massive media platform.
In theme, it's an alternative version of Netflix in a way, in the sense that endless videos, Documentaries, original documentaries that Iconic has made.
And it's not just about, you know, what's happening in the world in terms of events.
It's a vast spectrum.
Nature of reality, nature of the paranormal, how people can become much more than they think they are.
It's a phenomenal...
A spectrum of subjects which are covered, all of which connect into breaking the perceptual stranglehold that the cult has had on humanity.
Awesome. Well, there you have it, good people.
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Go to the website. Check it out.
Get informed. Get his books.
Go to Iconic as well.
Great information there for you.
David, once again, I thank you so much for coming on the Hidden Gateway Podcast.
We wish you nothing but the best going forward.
Continue to fight the good fight, my friend.
Oh, I don't know any other way.
Well, thanks, mate. It's been a real pleasure.
Thank you. I've enjoyed it.
Once again, we conclude another episode of The Hidden Gateway.