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Nov. 12, 2020 - David Icke
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Gareth Icke's Big Mouth Talks To Researcher Dino Wiand About The Center For Countering Digital Hate
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Hello ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Gareth Ike's Big Mouth.
Today I'm joined by Dino Wyand.
Now, as you know, we've been kind of attacked in terms of Censorship for a very very long time by lots of different people but all of a sudden a company appeared called Center for Countering Digital Hate and they are literally everywhere.
Their CEO Imran Ahmed is the absolute mouthpiece.
He's always on the BBC. He's always writing for The Guardian.
He's everywhere but he's literally come from nowhere.
So Dino's done some unbelievable research which is still ongoing about who he is, who they are, where they've come from because their platform's enormous.
And I mean, we're at a point now where I did a speech in London and the Times went to Imran Ahmed to talk about it.
I don't even know this guy.
Do you know what I mean? So why he's involved in everything is very odd.
Anyway, Dino, cheers for this, mate.
How are you? Are you okay? I'm good, thanks.
Yeah, thanks for having me. Oh, no, it's a privilege, mate.
So what we'll do, if it's all right with you, is we'll just start at the beginning because I know it's like Spaghetti Junction in terms of connections left, right and centre.
It's totally, that is totally it and it just goes on and on.
But yeah, so I started actually towards the end of April and during lockdown, I was actually, I'm quite interested in homeopathic medicine and natural health and I was quite, I was watching the, I don't know if you remember Dr.
Erickson in the Bakersfield doctors there.
They were giving a speech about viruses and masks and things.
Virtually all their videos were deleted from YouTube.
So I was kind of interested in what was going on.
Why is something so...
Or, you know, a pretty good opinion in my eyes was being deleted.
Something that would never have been deleted five, ten years, even last year, was being removed from YouTube.
And then I noticed at the same time, just a little bit later, David Ike has been removed.
I forget where it was. Was it YouTube?
Yeah, well, all of them.
To be honest, they all went, yeah.
Yeah, and I'm not, I wasn't, I mean, I've always known, I've known David Icke for a long time, but I wasn't following David Icke every day or not even every month, you know, I was just, but it came to my attention and then I was, so I decided to, I felt like I should look into uh what was going on with the deleting from all these uh from from all these uh social media and google and youtube platforms and uh came to my attention uh that the center uh this group called the center for countering digital hate uh which as you say was it um is uh the face of that group is uh Imran Ahmed and so I did so I did some research basically I just typed in Digital Hayton to Companies House, the website, the British website that's run by the government, to just show who the directors of each company that's registered in the UK. And to my surprise, immediately, the founder of this group was Morgan McSweeney.
Now, I never heard of him, but he, with just a quick search of him, he at the time was Chief of Staff I think just after that.
And he was also on the board of a company called Campaign Lab, which he's now removed all side of that, but that was also a Labour Party campaign, digital campaign group.
And also he was on the board of Labour Together, which is a group, which is again a campaign group that was supporting Keir Starmer's election to be the head of the Labour Party.
So all of a sudden I'm like, we've got a A Labour Party campaigner, a digital campaigner who founded the group that has been deleting people like David Icke and I think it's Zero Hedge and Breitbart and all these other and also some, they've been going after some natural health people like Kelly Brogan from Goop and things like this.
So that instantly intrigued me.
So then I started researching Imran Ahmed, who is actually not a director of the group, according to Companies House.
He just appears to be a spokesman.
He's been a Labour Party campaigner and spin doctor for years, including working for Hilary Benn and Angela Eagle.
I don't really know these people to be honest.
Angela Eagle is a Labour Party MP at the time and someone called Andy Slaughter.
So pretty clearly we've got two die-hard Labour Party employees deleting people.
So there's a massive Labour Party connection then?
You know, shutting down people that were probably coming from maybe the right or perceived to come from the right?
Yeah, well, it appears that everything that this Centre for Carrying Digital Hate, all the deleting and cancelling is coming directly from Labour Party policy, Keir Starmer policy.
And so that also, I started looking into other directors into the group, and one that was very interesting was an American connection with somebody called Simon Clarke, who's listed as director of the Center for Accounting and Digital Hate, who also works for the Center for American Progress.
And again, the center spelled the American way.
And Center for American Progress is A political campaigning group for the Democrat Party in America and is led by John Podesta, who was Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama's campaign managers.
So we have a direct link between the Center for Countering Digital Hate with the Labour Party in the UK and Keir Starmer And the Democrats in America with John Podesta and all the campaigning.
And if you actually look at the Center for American Progress's front page of their website, it's pretty much the same agenda as Center for Countering Digital Hate, Labour Party and So that was pretty fascinating.
So we've got the Labour Party connection and there's also some speechwriters for Gordon Brown.
I mean, a few other people on the board, but also, quite interestingly, Damien Collins, who's actually a Conservative member of Parliament for Folkestone, has just been added to the Director's Board.
I think in May, also to attack David Icke and a few other people, a fact-checker called Info...
let me see...
Information? Infotagian.
And they were fact-checking...
I think they were set up with MNC, Saatchi and...
A place called Iconic Labs.
So, anyway, so Infoot Tagging is a very interesting group because Damon Collins has been working with an oil baron, the actual Business partner for Infotagion is an oil baron named David Sefton, who owns, who's a director for Rose Petroleum, Anglo-Tunisian Oil, Anglo-African Oil.
And that pretty much, their agenda, strangely enough, if you look at it, is to end fossil fuel reliance.
And, you know, yet they seem to be in the thick of the oil industry, which was quite an interesting thing for me to to stroll upon uh but uh ironically uh I mean also infotaging have kind of stopped since July end of July they haven't really been updating anything or fact-checking um but yeah they but they they went in for uh for David Icke uh as basically demonizing along with uh a few other um Some people even from the S&P. So Damien Collins as well, he's the guy that said that conspiracy theorists basically should be put in jail.
I'm trying to think who he did that interview with.
It might have been The Independent or The Guardian, one of those.
And he said that they should be put in prison.
It should be against the law to the point where you're arrested and put in a cell.
And the only conspiracy theorist He named was my dad, David.
So he's obviously got an obsession there with silencing people to the point where he wants to throw him in prison.
Yeah, yeah. Well, it's clearly...
I mean, the way I see it is these groups are a chain.
If you look at it, you've got the Labour Party with Keir Starmer, you've got the Centre A campaign group that is behind the Democrats in America.
And then you've got people on the Center for American Progress on the board of Reuters, the news and WPP and MNC Saatchi Advertising Agency.
And then you've got links with all these people, Center for For Countering Digital Hate links with the Mayor of London and also people like Trevor Chin who is one of the board members of Labour Together who's also working directly with many other newspapers in the UK and then If you look at the Guardian, that's linked directly to the Center for American Progress.
And it just seems like a web of information.
They can get some information out through, say, Reuters Newswire, and then they can back it up with something like the Center for Countering Digital Hate.
Which, of course, I mean, I haven't even gone into this, but Imran Ahmed and the Center for Accounting and Digital Hate isn't even a center.
There's no address for this company.
This company has, or they're now a non-profit, but they originally were a company.
They have no address. There is no centre.
They're fighting disinformation, but they're actually calling themselves a centre for countering hate, which is disinformation, because there is no centre.
They've got a mail forwarding address, Yes, which they share, ironically, with the Labour together.
But with Damien Collins and this conspiracy theory, it seems like any other agenda that is coming out of Center for American Progress and And Keir Starmer's group is conspiracy theory and misinformation and it must be stopped.
That's how it appears from just looking through these companies and this web chain of, you know, and it also encompasses fact checkers, like I said, this infotation and god knows what else.
So you've got government then, because you've got government ministers in there and you've got political advisors and spin doctors.
So you've got them.
And then they're also linked into the media.
So they're controlling the media and what gets in and out.
And then they're running fact checkers.
So they're controlling what's going on on the internet.
It's unbelievable, isn't it?
It's an absolute censorship industry.
And you can just see how they would all combine.
So you have...
The fact checker online saying, look, they're lying.
And then the newspaper can report the fact that they're lying.
Look, because it's fact checkered.
It's been fact checked. They're lying.
And then the government ministers can come in and say, well, look, they're fact checked.
It's all over the press.
Fake news. You know, you should be put in prison for misinformation or whatever.
They've literally ticked every box, haven't they?
Yeah, it's totally, it's like you deliver the policy you want or the agenda you want and then of course they also, like I've been doing research of Imran Ahmed and a lot of these people in these groups are linked to charities or non- Nonprofits that also seem to be backing up the agenda.
So you get one story coming through the media and then they've got all these people to back it up and then if you complain about it or you question it, you then go into the racist or the white supremacist or if you're not white and you're black then they'll find another angle to demonize.
But it's like a complete web of, it's a perfect web, really.
There's very little, and also, like I say, it's encompassing Citizens Advice Bureau, Victim Support, which Imran Ahmed is involved with, and Imran Ahmed also was involved with Citizens Advice Bureau.
Citizens Advice Bureau and then scientists and science think tanks and so they can bring in, you know, a scientist from their web to back up their information and they can bring in a charity, victim support, you know, and they use this hate, like Center for Countering Digital Hate The only hate they're interested in is hate against their agenda, but they don't mind hating anybody else.
They are actually encouraging hate against people who don't agree with them and hate against someone like David Icke or anybody in there that's questioning anything out there.
And they'll find, they're just going through a list of who they can go to next.
And it seems like they're running out of people, to be honest.
But the web is absolutely, it's incredible, really, if you think about it.
And it even encompasses one of the directors from, Simon Clark is a director of both Center for Countering Digital Hate, and he's also on the, works with the Center for American He's also into PPE distribution.
I mean, you've got all these things that they're actually talking about being horrific for the environment.
And then they're actually involved in PPE and oil business.
It's just insane, really.
It's insane. It's kind of shocking because I'm not coming from...
An angle of opinion because you know I'm very neutral and it's just in your face clear and obvious you can't even argue it and in fact me talking about this will be they'll find a way I mean I'm a small potato but they'll find a way of discrediting me and bullying me and with their hate I mean there's no group that for example I could go to For them to help me.
And there's no countering digital hate.
If you understand what I'm saying.
Yeah, absolutely. But the hate term is just...
I mean, that's just used to evoke an emotion from people.
Because it's like anything.
Who could disagree with countering hate?
Of course we should counter hate.
Everyone should counter hate. Do you know what I mean?
So even with the name, it's almost...
It's like it's inverted so like you said they call themselves countering digital hate and all they're doing is trying to get people to hate their targets anyway and it just seems like they've literally just ticked every single box and we spoke before about the fact that when I first experienced Centre for Countering Digital Hate it was everyone's an anti-Semite everyone's a racist and then all of a sudden now they're the absolute mouthpiece and bastion of knowledge when it comes to vaccines Yeah, well, it's whatever agenda.
It's a vaccine. It was at one stage there were 5G. Anyone who's talking, questioning, questioning, not actually, you know, is there any tests been done about 5G? That's hate.
How can that be hate? But they're countering the hate of people questioning 5G. That moved on a week later into the next thing.
And, you know, it's usually 5G, then it'll be David Icke, and then it'll be the next subject, then back to David Icke.
And then, you know...
But yeah, currently, you know, it's vaccines, anti-vaxxers.
Again, you know, that's, in my opinion, calling someone an anti-vaxxer is hate.
It's... It's discrimination as well of medical freedom.
That's hate. There's no protection for people who are worried about a vaccine or questioning a vaccine.
You're basically in the same bunch as a racist or a homophobe, which I'm none of, but they'll find a way of saying something like that through that group.
It's really a total fascist It couldn't be more fascist.
And the crazy thing about him is they're promoting the left.
They're sort of liberal. They're doing this whole fascist thing in a liberal context, which is even more...
It's actually evil and it's deceptive because they're really doing textbook, fascist, Mussolini-style, big business middlemen.
They're defending big business.
Through fascism, which is fascism, but they're calling themselves Democrats and left and the woke, which is why I'm coming on this show, because it's really disturbing to me.
I mean, it's something I would try and avoid to even I would just try and avoid thinking about it, but that alone is really concerning.
And they use the word dangerous, like if you're talking about anti-vaccines, if you're an anti-vaxxer, and I'm not an anti-vaxxer, If you're talking about it, that's dangerous.
To me, not talking about something or questioning it is dangerous.
That's pretty concerning.
The web is massive.
I've actually been talking to Because of this information, not a lot of people have been looking into it, strangely enough.
But there's, you know, they're using a lot of these, and I call them tax write-off, these philanthropy groups, like Unbound Philanthropy in Hawaii, which is another group funding the Center for Countering Digital Hate.
And to me, these are tax write-off.
These are big businesses writing their tax off, and then using that to...
To be fascist, basically.
Instead of paying their tax, they're putting it into a non-profit organization.
But the web is just insane.
There's no stone they haven't turned over.
It's a perfect It's a perfect web of, I call it disinformation, but even if there's some policies I like, they still have a way of just putting hammer in that home to the whole world in headlines.
You know, and also, I mean, the crazy thing about Imran Ahmed, as well as being, you know, an obvious Labour Party campaigner, because he also, by the way, owns a group called, let me, it's called Labour Campaigns Limited.
You can look at it up on Companies House.
And he is actually still an active Labour Party campaigner as well, to add to that.
The amazing thing about, like you said, about Imran Ahmed is he is basically treated as, he's a politician, there's no question about it, but he's treated like a information service.
So he's not questioned, you know, you could put, he'll be on any TV show and he's just giving the public information without anybody.
I've never seen one person question him and that is Absolutely.
I've never heard of anything like that before.
And that is actually very frightening.
I've been actually working with a few American think tanks who have just started to look into who's canceling people.
And I'm still working on it, but I've actually been able to speak to some people within Facebook and YouTube.
And it appears, like, I don't know if you saw, but they attempted to remove Tucker Carlson, the anchor from the Fox News Network, a couple of months ago.
And he had actually mentioned Centre for Countering Digital Hate a little bit.
As well, I think it was the same time they cancelled Zero Hedge, which is a right-wing, I believe it's a right-wing news outlet.
You might know better than me, actually.
But they, but at the, where was I going with this?
But yeah at the time Oh yeah, so it turns out these American groups, Zero Hedge and Breitbart, are actually being deleted by this British group, Centre for Carrying Digital Hate, Imran Ahmed, in the UK. So even people at YouTube in California are telling me they don't know who's deleting this stuff.
I mean, I don't know if it's true or not, but they're saying they don't know.
And then they say, well, we think it's coming from London.
And there's American groups that are being banned from other countries.
And a weird thing, I've just noticed yesterday, The Guardian has now set up something called Guardian.org.
And it's an American organization, nothing to do with British.
It's set up in Washington, D.C. And you just feel there's some sort of globalist sort of a media agenda coming on.
Even also the independent newspaper, if you look at them, they're getting a lot of American journalists coming through at the moment.
And during the election, a lot of the news that was being beamed into America seemed to have been coming from the UK. Like, you know, because Americans are starting to read The Guardian and The Independent and Daily Mail and all these Because they have access to them now and I just feel like there is...
I mean, I've only started to work on this and I don't want to get myself into trouble by actually naming something that I can't back up yet.
But there has been some...
I've definitely... On the belief that the world cancelling industry, the social media and Google cancelling industry is coming out of London.
And that's quite an interesting sort of development.
But, you know, I'll probably next week I'll have more on that.
Yeah, well, if it's all right with you, we'll come and have a few chats.
It was interesting, something you said earlier, where you're talking about Linking you know anti-vaxxers and stuff and how you know the far-right and racists and all this sort of stuff and they did just that.
The other week I saw an article where John Mann, the former MP, they'd done some investigation into anti-semitism that apparently 74% of anti-vaxxers are anti-Semites basically and you're like well hang on a minute like I've got lots of friends that vaccinate they're vaccinated they vaccinate the kids they're not anti-vaxxers you know they don't they don't preach but they vaccinate and they do their thing but when it comes to the coronavirus vaccine they're asking lots of questions because they know that vaccines take a decade and more to develop and this has been done in no time and The fact that today you've got the government putting out a tender for an AI device to keep up with what they think, well no, but they say they think will be an enormous amount of adverse health effects to the vaccine, right?
So the government's coming out with a vaccine that's rushed.
When the government's given the vaccine manufacturers immunity from prosecution and is openly saying we need AI to keep up with all the people that are going to be ill because there's going to be a lot of adverse effects.
So questioning that, how are...
That's obvious, isn't it, to question that?
Okay, I'm not sure I want to put that in my two-year-old's arm then, really.
And then that all of a sudden makes you a racist.
It's funny, because when I was a kid, even at school, they used to tell you, don't always believe what you're reading in the papers.
And now that seems to go out the window.
You never hear that phrase anymore, do you?
No, it's actually... Yeah, I mean, you know, I have to say, you know, I'm the least racist person I've ever known.
And I get called racist for talking about vaccines.
I find that, like, it's just an...
It's just a mind...
It's a crazy mind game they're playing.
And they're bullies.
It's like high school bullying.
You know, it's like, if you don't...
If you aren't... Following our agenda, the government agenda, Or they, or what, then you are, you're now completely shamed.
And it's clear as day. I mean, I, from just doing this interview, I will probably have a harder time getting a job, I mean, in what I do, if this, you know, if someone looks at, looks at it, because I'm, and I'm not saying anything other than I just, you know, I would like to ask the question.
I would like someone to ask, answer the question, or I would at least like the opportunity not to take a vaccine if I don't want it.
Or if I want to take it, That's great, and I'm happy if people want to take it or don't want to take it, but we have to have the option.
You know, I'm happy that some people want to wear masks, but I'm also happy that people don't want to wear masks, but we've got to have that option.
And that's what I'm seeing here is a complete takeover.
They're scaring people. Like, my children would not be able to say, Like my daughter in Los Angeles, she would not be able to say she doesn't want to wear a mask because she would now be put in a box that she is racist or she is something undesirable and dangerous and not sensitive.
And this is all coming from this sort of web.
I mean, to me, Imanameh is a very low-grade politician, to be honest.
And he talks to people.
There's a lot of online interviews where he's talking to people like they're children.
He's not talking to anybody like they have a mind.
It's like he's picturing six, seven-year-olds The world works and you have to, you know, and he's a teacher, you know, and this is the kind of thing that's getting into people's minds, you know, and even, even I'm, I question everything and it even gets into my head.
I've got to say, you know, I even sometimes walk down the street and think, oh, I should, you know, I don't believe in this, but maybe I'll put a mask on just to make it easy, you know, for myself and, and stop having to deal with, you know, particularly in Los Angeles where I live.
It's, um, You know, you would think you'd committed murder.
You'd think you're out of Hitler for not wearing a mask just walking down the street sometimes, you know, and this again is coming from this From this mind fascism, you know, and it's really upsetting to me because really, you know, there's a point where you can have this, it's always been there, there's always been this sort of right and wrong, politically right and wrong, but it's gotten so much that you can't escape it any longer.
You can't just bury your head in the sand because Even, like I say, Imran Ahmed was talking about David Icke and a few other people the other day.
And then he was talking about vitamin C. You can't say that vitamin C would be safe to take for COVID-19.
That's disinformation. And he was talking about collodial silver, which He's mentioning that, you know, if you take that for COVID-19, people have been turning blue, he says.
But strangely, I think he's actually made an error of that because Jeff Bezos is actually the biggest seller of colonial silver through Whole Foods market.
But I think once he realizes that Bezos is losing out on that, he might change that.
But the whole idea is...
It's really clear to see that this is a massive mind game.
And the hypocritical part of it is they are actually just, whatever they're actually accusing people of, they are doing it.
I just don't know why people can't see it so clearly.
And like I said, I don't actually, I love David Icke for a lot of things and certain things I don't agree with him, but I wouldn't want David Icke to be banned for saying, you know, questioning 5G and live in a world where something like this exists, you know? And it can only get worse, I believe.
And the more I'm researching this, the more and more everything you read seems to be a deception or a paid ad, really.
Every article in these newspapers, and even from the Center of Counting Digital Hate, you often see them quoted in newspapers in an article that has no writer.
Like, they'll be in The Guardian, there's no writer.
So you can't even research who wrote the article, but you've got Centre for Counting Digital Hate and then all their group of politicians backing them up and victim support or whatever.
They probably write them themselves.
It's probably just a press release.
Yeah, they're publicists.
They're spin doctors.
Publicists calling themselves, what they've done is, I mean of course a spin doctor is all about spinning things, so what they've done is they've spun the whole industry, the spin doctor industry, into being charities or non-profits or do-gooding political parties.
And of course, I'm sure there's some good people in this.
I'm sure there's people who know it's going on and are not speaking up.
And I'm sure there's people who don't know what's going on.
And I'm sure there's a majority of people probably are very nice even within these political parties.
But they're spinning it.
They're spinning their own industry and decepting people.
And then their industry is going after what they call disinformation or...
I mean, it's like classic Stalin stuff.
It's classic, you know, you tell the people, whatever you're doing, you claim, you know, the other people are doing, you know, they're bad guys.
That's the thing when it comes to vaccines.
So they would attack a conservative that is anti-abortion and they would say it's the woman's body, it's the woman's choice.
Yet, when that same conservative says, well, I don't want to take the vaccine, it's my body, it's my choice.
No, it's not. Do you know what I mean?
And I always think that with a vaccine argument, it's like, you're just as bad as the person that says it's not her choice, you know, in that sense.
And also, like, so they can say that because they can back it up.
The media is not going to put the point you just put out.
They're not going to do that because they now know they're quite safe in the fact that all these newspapers that are owned by all the people, you know, the same people are going to back them up and they're not going to mention, oh, well, the hypocrisy in what they're saying.
They're not going to do that. And they're getting more and more comfortable.
And I think they're actually, maybe their downfall, if there is going to be a downfall, they're going to get too comfortable And something big is going to slip.
But I think even if something bad happens, is the media now going to pick it up when they're all in the same boat together?
There's no, they're all the same people.
The bankers, you know, if you look at all these nonprofits, I've been looking at the Imran Ahmed and all the other people that work with Center for Countering Digital Hate, all these nonprofit groups, Virtually all of them are bankers or ex-bankers.
So we've got these people that crashed the economy in, what is it, 2009, that had massive bailouts that nobody wanted to, you know, everyone was shamed to be a banker.
But these bankers are the non-profit groups, they're the politicians, they're everybody.
They've infiltrated everything, and along with the pharmaceutical companies, so they're all one.
There is no difference between the bankers, the I mean, I'm not saying all charities, by the way, because I'm just talking about the ones that I've researched, and not all of them even within that, but just some charities that are being quoted in the web of backing up all this one-sided agenda.
And I'm not a Donald Trump supporter in the slightest.
People will call me a Donald Trump supporter when I actually can't stand the guy just for mentioning stuff like this.
And that's another mind game that you can see Center for County Digital Hate, their current thing, as well as anti-vaxxing, is now the Donald Trump contesting the results of the election, which actually, to be honest, I haven't even been following because it's so insane.
I've just given up even thinking about it.
So, you know, they're using Donald Trump for basically representing anybody that doesn't agree with them as well.
And that's the, you know, Donald Trump is the same thing as representing the entire...
Donald Trump, I believe, probably is the representation of everything combined.
They've put in As one fate, the face of hate.
And of course, you know, everything Donald Trump says isn't going to be hate because he, you know, he passed a law for animals to be against animal cruelty.
That wasn't so bad, you know, but that's not, you know, it's not part of their agenda, you know, or their The demonizing of people, you know?
And I can see why a few people now are having a little bit more sympathy with Trump.
I mean, I'm not actually, but I can see where a lot of friends I know that were far left, I mean, they were Bernie Sanders guys, are now actually thinking, well, Trump, weirdly, is sounding a little bit more...
There's a little bit more about Trump than we thought, you know, even, you know, if that's deception, probably too.
It's easy if you're aiming at one person, though.
You know, like, lots of people have had these conversations, and I think they go back into spin doctors and stuff, even around the time of the Second World War, where if you can focus the population on one person...
So, obviously, Trump, you know, hate Trump, because he's a face, and you can focus on that.
But if you're trying to focus on mass corporations...
You know, they're faceless.
Like, if you aim hate at Coca-Cola, I couldn't put a face to Coca-Cola.
But Trump, you can.
And CCDH, they try and do that with my dad.
It's like, hate him.
Him. You know, everyone hate him.
Because it's easier to get people to focus hate at one person.
And like you said, that just goes...
It just shows just how inverted it is that you've got an anti-hate group whose whole job is to make people hate people, basically.
Yeah. Yeah, it's totally...
I mean, from what I know of David Eichen, I don't even...
I'm not an expert, but I've seen many...
When he's talked about love and just love is the answer.
I mean, that's what actually appealed to me today because I'm coming from more of a sort of a homeopathic sort of almost hippie sort of, you know, direction here.
And, you know, someone who's Whose main goal in life is to actually bring out more love in people and then to have him attacked as hate is quite heartbreaking really.
I don't actually know how he can handle that so much because it's really heartbreaking but the fact is that I feel like This is going even further down the line of corporate control.
I got fact-checked for talking about the way forward.
I was coming on this Green New Deal and I said the way forward is locally produced organic food, whether that's right or not.
We all went back to buying local products and going away from the globalists and the Whoever owns the food.
And I got fact-checked about that.
I mean, it's like, even if I'm wrong, the actual sentiment was good.
And, you know, I've just, it's just shocking to me that we're like schoolteam children.
These, like, Center for Carrying Digital Hey, and all these, they're like the teacher at school that's telling They're telling you to not run down the corridor.
It actually has more sense.
At least there's some sense in that.
But they're in your head telling you what you can't do.
And people are just letting it happen.
I think they've been so...
I think within the school system or the university system they've been so used to control and trying to please the...
Somebody or the teacher.
They're easily implementing this.
I haven't done the research but I would guess there's something also to do with the education system is also probably within this web because it seems very much tied in in the universities and I've got good friends who are lecturers in psychiatry in In universities in the UK, and they can't even now teach what they want to teach.
They have to teach a government agenda, which is probably coming from the same people.
I mean, I've had a friend who's left Oxford University to teach in Prague because he can't teach anything he wants to teach.
He's just a middleman for...
They might as well have just hired a face, just a guy who could just...
Like a robot actually.
They probably will hire robots in the near future to teach.
But yeah, this web is crazy.
And within this web, the people who have been accused of corruption and Yeah, and I was even looking at the infiltration, the Damon Collins fact-checker group.
They're not fact-checking, but they still have some podcasts and some Instagram, not Instagram, Twitter posts.
And they're talking about transparency in politics.
They're promoting all these transparency and politics groups, which when you look at them, they're all leftist groups.
So they're... And infantagen isn't transparent at all.
And, you know, with the...
By the fact that they have someone who's an African oil trader in Africa.
Again, it's a deception.
They're trying to put it into the minds of people.
That they are about transparency because they are totally not.
It's the exact opposite. They're hiding.
Whatever they're hiding, they're accusing people of.
And it's pretty clear with my research.
Like I said, I didn't even want to find this information.
I don't want to find it.
I'd rather it wasn't true.
But it comes a point where if you've...
If you read this stuff, there's no other conclusion.
There's not a conclusion.
I'd love it for someone to argue with me and say, look, you know, you got it all wrong, but it's clear as day what is going on.
And, you know, what can you do?
I mean, I've got a theory that we should all start maybe suing fact-checkers and then, you know, then maybe they'll stop.
I don't know if that's a solution.
I find it staggering that you're fact-checked for an opinion that you think people should go back to local organic produce.
Who the hell has the right to tell you that's wrong?
It's your opinion. If you think that, you're allowed to think that.
There's no fact-check needed.
The funny thing is, if I was wrong, I still have that opinion.
Why can't I say that?
Like yeah, I mean, why can't I just say, you know, on Twitter, if I want, you know, the world's,
you know, the world today is, uh, yeah, it's, it's, sorry, I've got that.
But yeah, you could say, you say what you want.
And it's like, you know, you're not accusing someone of being a paedophile.
You're just saying, I think we should go back to organic food.
And that's fine. Yeah, it's madness.
But I look forward to hearing more of your research, though.
Because when we were talking before we started, you were saying, I've just got loads more stuff.
And it'd be great to chat again if you're up for that.
I have to say, so much has come in, that in the past week, I really would, I can't even get my head around how much I found, and it's all looking pretty crazy.
But yeah, I definitely would like to come back, and once I've got it all completely in order, for sure, I'd like to come back Yeah, we'll do that.
We'll have a chat if that's cool with you.
That's great. What a web.
It's just, it's just, it's mad, isn't it?
It's just trying to just like pick apart the bits.
It's like a cat's gone mental with a ball of string or something.
Yeah. Yeah. It's, I mean, it's, it's, I think, I think most people in, uh, would have only dreamed of, of the world getting this fascist, but you know, the fact, but yeah, it's, it's unbelievable to me.
I, I think you've really got to question your own thoughts and your own beliefs as well.
You've got to question yourself constantly on this because what I've always believed and what I've always believed to be good or right is really just falling apart right in front of me.
You know, and holding on to what I believed was right is quite shocking.
Actually, the shocking thing is just realizing that maybe I was wrong about a lot of things, you know?
and I know we're all in different places so it's you know but really if you really just question
everything that you read or see it becomes that you're an enemy of of these people.
An enemy of the people that you probably voted for.
And it's quite a trap really and a terrible mind game of pretty much a giant advertisement really.
An advertisement that you can't get out of.
Well, the more people know about it, the more chance we've got of winning it.
It's like anything, isn't it? It just needs bringing to the surface.
Thank you, mate. Thanks.
We'll chat again. Any time, just give us a shout.
If you've got another nugget or another piece connected and you're like, mate, look at this, then just give us a shout and I'll run upstairs and we'll fire up the laptop.
Alright, if I find some nuggets, I'll call you.
Magic. I appreciate that, mate.
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