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Sept. 25, 2020 - David Icke
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David Icke Talks To Pete Evans - Full Interview
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♪♪♪ David, thank you so much for joining us.
How are you today, brother? Good.
Pleasure. Mate, what a treat to be able to sit on opposite sides of the world and to be able to talk and have a deep conversation.
It's one of my favourite things to do.
A dear friend of mine called Trevor Hendy started talking to me about you when we first met.
It must have been about a decade ago, actually.
And he was telling me about some of the stuff that you were talking about.
I was like, oh, that sounds very interesting.
Tell me more. Tell me more.
And I've gone down some of your rabbit holes or many of your rabbit holes over the years.
And a lot of them have started to come out quite true.
And I never thought I'd probably get the opportunity to talk to you in person.
And first off, I just want to say thank you for allowing us to have this time tonight, or more to where you are, and thank you for doing the work that you've been doing over the years too.
I think it has helped a lot of people stay grounded and also to be curious and inquisitive.
And tonight I would love to go on an adventure with you because I've been listening to your talks recently with Brian Rose at London Real.
And so many of the things that you present resonate with me in a way that not many people have been able to do so in the past.
And what I mean by that is you talk about consciousness and An expanded consciousness and the true reality of what it means to be a human being in quite a prophetic way, quite a profound way, which really, when I hear your words, resonates very deeply with my own perception on this.
So I'd love for you to be able to start with what your definition of or definition is to be human at this particular point in time.
In human history.
Well, human, for me, is a way of processing information.
And we call the way this processing happens, human.
What goes along with that, unfortunately, and it's been encouraged by the authorities for reasons I'm sure we'll come to, We are encouraged and pressured to self-identify with that form of information processing and thus to perceive the entirety of ourselves as what we perceive to be human.
When human is merely a ridiculously brief experience for our true self, our true I, which is consciousness.
I see one infinite stream of consciousness and we're all different points of attention within that stream of consciousness.
So you will be an expression of the same consciousness that I am, but you will, through your life experience and every experience beyond what we call human, you will have a slightly, and in many cases, considerably different perception.
But we're all points of attention, perception, within the same stream of infinite awareness.
And so when we, as consciousness, forget form, just a state of being aware, when that awareness emerges, Works through what we call a human body.
The human body, I've been calling it now for nearly 30 years, a biological computer.
And it processes information in a particular way.
So if we just look at the foundations of this reality, and then we can come to this deeper look at what human is.
According to mainstream science, the electromagnetic spectrum is 0.005% of what exists in the universe.
Now, some say it's as high as 0.5%, but what we're looking at is absolutely negligible compared with what exists even in this universe, which is just one reality within infinite reality.
So, Then we look at that which we can see, which we perceive as a visual reality, what we actually call the human world.
And that is called visible light, and it is a fraction of the 0.005%.
Hmm. When we perceive the world around us, we think we are seeing everything that exists in the space that we perceive, when actually all we are perceiving visually is a tiny, almost laughably narrow band of frequency that we call visible light.
And the body, the body computer, is focusing our attention, a bit like looking through a telescope, it's focusing our attention on this tiny band of frequency.
While we're in embodiment, if you like, not quite like that, but it'll do, we are having our attention focused within what you might call the five sense frequency.
Can I see it, touch it, taste it, hear it?
It must exist then.
Which is where, of course, mainstream science comes from, overwhelmingly.
I mean, quantum physics has taken a different route, thank goodness.
But basically, mainstream science is constantly asking, can I see it, touch it, taste it, hear it?
Then it must exist.
And if I can't, then it can't exist.
So here we are.
As an expression of consciousness, having our attention focused within this narrow band of frequencies of what we call the five sense world.
And then when we have these now millions of near-death experiences that people have recounted when the body has died, cease to function.
Done what? Cease to process information in the same way.
And they have been released from this connection.
And suddenly, they describe in extraordinarily common themes and detail the massive expansion of consciousness that goes on once you leave the book.
Once you experience other levels of reality, everything changes.
Why? Because the consciousness, our consciousness, the I, that has had its attention focused on this reality...
Has been released from that focus, and suddenly it can perceive vastly, vastly more about itself and reality than it did before.
Now, if you, coming round to conspiracy, The reason that in my books, when I talk about names, dates, places, conspiracy, I never write about that stuff in my books without also adding the nature of reality.
Because secret societies are secret for a reason.
They hold secrets. And the deeper or higher you go in these secret societies, the more profound the secrets become.
And the biggest secret of all Is the nature of reality.
And what this network has done, and it's intergenerational, passed on through the secret society networks.
It has sought to even more focus human attention only on the five senses.
So we perceive the I as our labels.
My name, my life story, my race, my religion, my income bracket, this is who I am.
When actually they are simply experiences that our consciousness is having.
And if you look at the...
The story of a human life from the womb to the cemetery.
It is a constant download of perceptual programming.
The education system is not there to educate.
It is there to program a perception.
And if you look at How, for instance, censorship works, becoming more and more extreme, of course, and all the attacks you get.
When you do what?
When you in any way deviate from the programmed norm of how we're supposed to think and how we're supposed to perceive.
It's like putting people in prison.
And then policing the prison, perceptual prison.
And then policing the prison so no one can escape.
And the irony is that the other prisoners, overwhelmingly, are the ones that jump on any one of them that wants to escape.
In other words, wants to expand their consciousness.
Now, if you do that, if you don't allow yourself...
To go into programmed response mode where you take, like a computer, input from government, input from authority, press enter, human perception.
If you don't do that and you want to explore, you want to step off what I call the postage stamp consensus of perceived reality of everything.
Then you start, one, getting attacked, getting censored, and B, you start to realize the true nature of the I. Because we can realize Experience the five senses.
Why wouldn't we?
We're here to interact with this reality through the five senses.
But you don't have to be dominated by five sense reality.
You can expand your awareness and suddenly, instead of being in the world and of it, and getting all your information only from the sources of mainstream communication, Media, Silicon Valley. Instead of getting your information and therefore your perceptions, which comes from information, only from the five senses in the world and of it, you're suddenly getting access to expanded states of awareness,
which can give you a much greater fixed understanding of Of actually what you're experiencing.
And if you look through history, those people call different names.
At one time, they're called seers and shamans and holy people and such like.
And now they're called things like conspiracy theorists and whatever.
But there's a common theme. And that is, they were challenging the orthodoxy of the day.
And the orthodoxy is its own defense mechanism.
Because if the few can only control the many, if the few can control the perceptions of the many, because perception becomes behavior.
We've just had more than 3 billion people.
Effectively put under house arrest by a tiny number of people worldwide because the perception was that there is a deadly virus.
Thus the behavior is I must do what the authorities tell me to protect me from this deadly virus they told me exists.
And the other side of that is I may question That what the authorities are telling me, but what are the consequences for me of speaking out about it or doing anything about it?
And those two perceptions I believe anything I'm told.
I don't believe it.
But what's the consequences for me of saying so?
That twin perception put billions of people under house arrest on the say-so of a ridiculously tiny few.
And this is what happens.
But, of course, once you do expand your awareness, truly expand it, Once you truly realize what the true I is, which is a state of awareness that is eternal and is indestructible, then things like fear of death and fear of consequences just go straight out the bloody window.
Suddenly you've got the power to act upon what you believe.
Rather than being intimidated into silence and acquiescence because you fear what might happen.
I, for one, don't give a damn what might happen to me.
I give a damn about my self-respect in terms of following my perception of reality and not having it downloaded from some dark suit whose...
Who's usually not very bright either, because the whole dynamic of human control is you have the core of psychopaths that are driving this, and then endless idiots, most of which don't even know the psychopaths exist, that just carry out the policy.
I've just described the pandemic hoax.
I love what you've said there, David, because through my own experience and over the years, I have journeyed into, I guess, a greater consciousness and I've used certain things to do that.
Last year, I was in Costa Rica at a medically approved ayahuasca clinic and sat with Jack Canfield, who wrote Chicken Soup for the Soul, and quite a few people.
And over four nights, we drank This beautiful brew called ayahuasca, which is challenging, but beautiful and profound.
And previously to that, I was with a Mexican shaman and smoked toad medicine, or bufo arvarious, which is called 5-MeO-DMT. And mainly in that experience itself, it dissolved or it shut down all the sense data.
So you couldn't see, you couldn't hear, you couldn't feel, and you couldn't taste or smell anything.
It overwhelms the senses.
And in that experience, you have the ego death.
And from the ego death, you actually experience Consciousness in a way that is what I would call the absolute truth because I felt like I'd experienced everything that I ever has been and everything that ever will be.
Even though I wasn't there, I was that experience.
It removed a hell of a lot of fear for me during that experience because it taught me that we are all one, but we are having an individual perception as Pete or David or whoever is listening to this.
And so there's like a paradox in there to a point.
And I'd love to understand how does it work?
Because in that experience, it seemed like it was all frequency.
And when we coexist with everything else on this planet, and you're talking about the powers that be or the authority, what does it mean when I say the word frequency to you in relation to human beings?
Some operating on a different frequency than others?
Is there a lower vibration that...
Is keeping certain people in this state of fear or victim mentality and is there a different frequency that people are operating on that are more free?
How would you explain frequency?
Because it's something I've been wanting to ask you.
Well, I've just finished a book, which is at the printers now.
It's coming out in the next few weeks called The Answer, in which it covers many, many things, including this ludicrous pandemic hoax.
But it also goes into all these things that you're talking about now, because, as I mentioned a few minutes ago, if we do not understand reality, And how it works and how we interact with it, but that this core cult, as I call it, this global cult, does know, then it's in an enormous position of power over the population.
So this information has to get out.
It's vital. Why the hell should we not know who we really are?
Well, if we do, Then the game's up for the cult because the cult exists and has its control by keeping from the population the nature of the reality that we're experiencing and the nature of the eye of the population.
And frequency, in this reality, yes, it's all about frequency.
And this is established by mainstream scientific studies over the years.
Everything in this reality is frequency.
Everything. And you can think of the analog radio stations or television stations.
Where they're on different frequencies.
So if I tune to radio station A, then I turn my dial to a particular frequency and I get that and nothing else.
I've just described that a few minutes ago.
What this body computer does is focus our attention within a tiny band of frequency.
You can think of that as a television or radio station, if you like.
And while we are totally and utterly focused on that, that's all our reality is.
When you're listening to radio station A, that's all you hear.
But you move the dial, and now you're on radio station B. And that's all you can hear.
But radio station A has not disappeared.
It's not demanifested.
It's still broadcasting.
It's just that you're not tuned to it anymore.
And so we are a one reality within infinite, infinite realities operating on different frequencies.
But this focuses our attention on one band of frequency, so most people are not aware of other frequencies.
But then when you leave the body and you leave that focus of attention, that way of processing information, Now you're in a different frequency, and so your reality is changing.
All death is is a transition of state of perception, a transition of state of observation.
You're observing this world.
This seems all there is.
You leave the body, what we call death.
Now you're observing another one.
It's like moving the dial on the radio station, if you like.
So, the more you expand your consciousness And start to access other frequencies, other realities, the more information, perception, awareness you become conscious of, to put this reality into some kind of context, which that, in the world and of the world, could never do.
And basically what the whole conspiracy is about is two things.
One, it is focusing our attention on the five senses.
And two, it's controlling the information that the five senses receive, hence all the censorship now, to...
Program and download our sense of reality.
But you can expand beyond it anytime you like, and that's what the cult fears, people doing that.
That's why people that do, they're dangerous, they're this, they're that, whatever term of abuse they can come up with next.
The other thing about frequency is that every thought, every emotional state Broadcast the frequency, what people call vibes.
Ooh, we'll get bad vibes off him.
So you can have someone, if you're sensitive to this, whose smiley face, oh, very nice and pally, you know, like Tony Blair, for instance, on the surface.
But you feel something coming.
Ooh, I don't know. Well, he seems all right.
Seems a nice enough chap.
Ooh, I feel... We've got some bad vibes coming off him because the real self you can't hide.
If you're sensitive to frequency, people can't hide their real self from you.
You pick it up on these levels of frequency.
So if you are manipulated into suppressed low levels of frequency, What happens is your energetic field starts to vibrate slower and slower.
You're being pulled into density.
You're being pulled into five sense only perception.
And at that point, they got you.
So the more they can get you to fear, the more they can get you into states of anxiety.
The more they can get you into states of depression, of hatred, and all these low vibrational emotions, what they're doing is they are suppressing your energetic field.
So it operates within a very low, dense band of frequency.
And that's all you're kind of basically accessing.
So people in those states of anxiety and fear and depression, what do they say?
Oh, I feel so heavy today.
Life is such a burden.
Why? Because they're feeling this slow, dense frequency, vibration that those states of emotion and mental states have put them into.
And then someone's feeling joy, happiness, um, Feels wonderful about life.
What do they say?
Oh, I feel so light today.
Right? Because they are fast frequencies, quick frequencies, and they vibrate your energetic field into other levels of energy.
Frequency that are much higher than, oh, I feel so heavy today.
And so the whole basis of the conspiracy is to so manipulate human society, thus human experience, individually and collectively, that people fall into these low vibrational states.
Gotcha! But when you go into high vibrational states, then life is very different.
And this brings me to something else, which is fundamentally important and connected to what I've just said.
The whole foundation of this reality is not physical.
There is no physical.
Quantum physics has shown that.
It's waveform.
Waveform. It's a vibrational state of waveform, a frequency state of waveform.
And the simplest way to symbolize that, actually more than symbolize that, it's very close to literally true, is Wi-Fi.
So this computer is programmed To connect with Wi-Fi and take information out of the radiation field we call Wi-Fi and to put it on the screen in a completely different way.
So if you said to someone, tell me about the internet, they'd say, oh, it's pictures and graphics and words and stuff on the screen.
Okay, yeah, but only on the screen.
The internet only exists in that form on the computer screen.
Everywhere else, it's Wi-Fi and it's electronic codes, etc.
So what the body biological computer does is it takes waveform information from what I call the cosmic internet, the cosmic Wi-Fi field, And through the five senses, it decodes it into a form on our screen which appears to be the external world around us.
So if you look at the five senses, all of them, they work in the same way.
They take waveform information.
They, first of all, decode that into electrical information, which is communicated to the brain and the brain then decodes that into digital holographic information.
Illusory physical.
So I'm talking now, and there are no words passing between me and the people listening.
What's passing between us is a vibrational field of information which my vocal cords have created.
And that waveform passes between us.
The ears pick it up.
The waveform. They turn it into electrical information.
They communicate it to the brain.
And only when the brain decodes it do people hear words.
And so the external world itself is an illusion because I'm looking at a computer screen now and everything about that image is happening inside the computer.
I'm just observing it.
And it's the same with our reality.
This external world all exists in here.
And it appears to be external, but actually it's within us.
And this comes around to an even deeper level of what I talked about earlier.
If you can manipulate the perceptions of Of the thought processes and the emotional processes, you can dictate how those processes decode information in the same way that I can or I can't because I'm not a computer expert, but someone who is could program this computer only to process information in a certain way.
They do it. They do it to the internet in China.
Where vast tracts of the internet are not decodable by computers in China because of the firewalls that are put in there.
And if you can control people's perceptions by controlling information and getting them into states of fear and anxiety, what you're actually doing is putting firewalls in their...
In their decoding process, the process is they're actually decoding reality and perception.
And so people will say, look, I can't get my head around it, mate.
Literally, they can't.
They cannot process that information into a different perception to the one they are doing because...
Their decoding processes are so rigid and programmed that all they can do is keep processing information in the same way.
You can see this with, well, you know, the authorities are always right, so we must always act upon what the authorities say, which is obviously ludicrous, but if you're programmed to perceive that all your life, then you will process that information in that way.
And so it's all going on in here.
You know, all these things that have been introduced to protect us from the virus, they're nothing to do with health.
All this distancing and masks and Lockdown and fear.
It's to do with manipulating the psyche.
What they're doing with kids now, on the basis of, even if you believe the virus exists, and I don't, but even if you do, the chances of a child becoming ill Even ill, never mind dying, from this so-called virus is nil, basically. A lot more nil than lots of other things that none of this stuff is ever introduced to protectors from.
But what is it doing?
You've got kids at school.
They're now apart from their mates.
They can't hug them. They can't have natural interaction.
You have playgrounds with kids.
Chalked areas, little chalked areas that kids can't go out of.
They have to stand there on their own.
You're having kids football in Britain being reintroduced.
Not really, but they say that it is.
In which, you know, they say literally the regulations...
If you're training with a goalkeeper, then if someone else touches the ball apart from the goalkeeper in the training, then you have to stop and you have to wipe the ball with an antiseptic wipe.
I mean, this is nothing to do with health.
Programming perception.
And the biggest programming mechanism is fear.
Because once people are in fear of something, they give their power away to that which they believe will protect them from what they fear.
And that's the authorities.
So it's a big mind game.
It's a big psyop.
I mean, the whole of life is a psyop.
They set out to...
Program our perception which will dictate our behavior so the few can go on controlling the many because they understand that if they can hold us in low frequency states, they got us.
And if you go in a high frequency states, the game's over.
Thank you for explaining that.
I'd love to ask you two words here.
The difference... Victim?
I feel like in Australia we have a victim mentality.
And I probably get in trouble for saying that, but that's okay.
And... But I see it over and over, actually.
A friend texted me today about COVID, actually.
He said... I can't go to work today because I've presented with flu-like symptoms and they need me to go get a test before I can come back to work.
And kept going and kept going and kept going and all I could read there was my perception was being a victim mentality there instead of having your own power and freedom.
So I'd love for you to explain what Why are so many people being in a victim mentality or state or identity?
And the opposite must be freedom.
Let's talk about those two.
They're in a victim mentality because they've been programmed all their lives to be victims.
I mean, you look at this Black Lives Matter stuff.
There's a reason that the organisation Black Lives Matter...
Which is completely hijacked, a very reasonable phrase.
I mean, all lives matter, whether they're black, white, or sky blue, blink, but it's a very reasonable phrase, black lives matter.
But when you have cap B, cap L, cap M, and you turn it into an organization, then it becomes, and never was, anything to do with the lives of black people, because it is funded massively to the tune of staggering amounts of money by 1% billionaires, 1% corporations, and 1% foundations.
Now, why would they care less about black lives?
They don't. But what they're doing is two things.
They are dividing and ruling the target population, which when there is a few of you and there's a lot of the target population, then you have to divide and rule the target population if you're going to control them.
But the other thing they're doing, coming to the point of the question, is that they're telling black people that they're victims, that they're victims of white people.
And what is a victim?
A victim is saying, I have no power to control and dictate my life.
Someone or something else has that power.
That's what a victim is saying.
Whereas people that are in their own power, no matter what their color, background, religion, creed, or anything, they say, no, I am in control of my power.
My life, my outcome, my experience, not some external force.
And this can be explained in terms of the, if you like, the esoteric physics level of this.
I talked about the Wi-Fi field, the cosmic internet that we live in, the sea of energy.
I'll call it the field for simplicity.
And we are interacting with that field all the time.
We perceive in the decoded holographic illusory physical reality that we decode from waveforms There is space between us.
There's not. We're back to frequency.
The space between us is filled with energy, consciousness, operating on frequencies that are beyond the visible light frequency bands.
So we can't see them, but they're there.
It's like a fish swimming in the ocean.
We're all connected. All the fish are connected.
All life in the ocean is connected by the ocean.
All life in this reality is connected by an energetic field of consciousness.
So it talks about all...
Emotions or mental states or thoughts, all of it, are generating a frequency.
And the totality of our perceptual states represents a frequency band.
If you have a victim, no-power self-identity of, I'm just little me, I have no power...
Then the frequency band of your perception of self, I'm little me, I have no power, will reflect your state of being.
So that's the band of frequency that you're interacting with the sea, the field, the cosmic internet.
I mean, if you take the human internet, it's your state of perception that dictates where you go.
You know, if I have a perception, I'll go here on the internet.
If I have a different perception, I'll go there.
Perception dictates where you go on the internet.
Perception dictates where you go on the cosmic internet.
So if you're little me, I have no power, you are in a low frequency state because you're not expanded into self-identity with the true I, the infinite I, you're operating with the fake I, just a series of brief labels, experiences.
And so you're interacting with the cosmic internet on that band of frequency.
And so it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Because as you interact with that narrow band of possibility and probability, the feedback loop feeds back to you experiences that confirm your state of victimhood and your state of powerlessness.
So you just observe people in victim mode.
They keep being victimized.
Why? Because they created it.
And then, when you change your self-identity, because, you know, I hear all these things, and, you know, good luck to people.
You know, to expand your awareness, you have to...
Go on quests and drink green tea or whatever it is.
These different ways of doing things.
Good luck to people if they want to do that.
But from where I'm coming from, none of it is necessary.
Only one thing is necessary.
Re-evaluating your self-identity.
From me, I am my experiences, I am my labels, that's who I am, to I am a state of infinite awareness having a brief experience as those labels.
And that re-evaluation of sense of self expands your awareness by definition because your expansion of the nature of self Automatically expands your range of consciousness, just as I'm just little me contracts it.
So now, coming from a state of I am all that is, has been, and ever can be, which people from five sense mode are saying, it's ridiculous, you can't be all that is, has been, and ever can be.
Yeah, but what is that?
It's just another way of saying all possibility.
We live in an infinite state of consciousness within which all possibility exists.
Because consciousness simply creates possibility by its own imagination.
There's no limit to it.
And therefore...
You have to be all that is, has been, and ever can be because you are all possibility, which has to be all of those things at the same time.
And when you, therefore, re-evaluate and re-self-identify with that level of I... That expansion of your consciousness, now you are interacting with the field of possibility and probability, cosmic internet, cosmic Wi-Fi, in a much more expanded, high-frequency way, and therefore the feedback loop that you are now creating that turns your perception literally into your experience massively expands.
Now suddenly life is not, oh, every day is like every other day.
It becomes an adventure.
It becomes an adventure because you're making it an adventure.
You are perceiving infinity, living infinity, instead of perceiving limitation and living limitation.
It's all perception.
And this is why I said earlier...
That this cult is absolutely, totally focused on controlling human perception and limiting the sense of the possible.
Because if it limits the sense of the possible, it will limit the nature of human experience and hold it in the box.
They're terrified of people breaking out of the box.
That's why they censor me.
YouTube censored me. Facebook censored me.
DavidIke.com is blocked in bloody Mexico for some reason.
I'm banned from Australia.
Why do they do that to a bloke living in a little flat on the Isle of Wight off the south coast of England?
Why do they do that? Because they're terrified of people who are operating outside of the box and are not intimidated by them and are actually communicating information that would give people a chance of realizing that they can do the same whenever they choose.
Because this is not guru sitting on the mountain cross-legged.
Anyone could do this.
It's just about re-evaluating the nature of the eye.
From the human eye to infinite consciousness eye.
Yeah, it was interesting. I was just interviewed by our 60 Minutes television show here in Australia and it was funny because when they were doing their story on myself and others and the narrative for their story was why are so many people distrusting the media and the government and this virus and I said yes.
They lied to us! Okay, end of story!
I said, I'm happy to go up there.
And they shared that I'd shared one of your interviews on my social media before, saying that I'm a conspiracy theorist.
And I agreed to do the interview on two...
Under two caveats.
One was that I could film the whole interview with my own team.
So we had the 90-minute version.
And the reason that I ended up doing it was because they sent in their top reporter, the most respected journalist or investigative reporter in Australia.
I thought, okay, well, if I'm going to do it, I want to do it the best.
And it was fascinating because the hour and a half that I sat opposite the reporter...
All they wanted to do was put me in a box with a label on it.
And they really found it, my perception is they found it very difficult when I said I will not be, I didn't say I won't be, but I am more than one label that you could ever put on me.
I said, I actually see myself as indefinable or undefinable.
I don't even know who I am or what I am because I'm interested in so many different things about this life that The labels of the identity, I really found that their whole purpose was to label me as something.
And I feel like that's such a huge thing for people at the moment about their identity.
I share a lot of information on my social media networks and they haven't censored me yet.
And people say to me all the time, they say, well, I can't actually share what you share to my friends and family because I'm fearful of their reaction to me.
So I only come onto your page to see what you're doing and like it on yours, but then it stops.
I don't actually share it anywhere else.
And they say they're scared of being labelled a crackpot or a conspiracy theorist or left of central, whatever it is from their friends and family.
And one thing I learned many, many, many, many years ago is I don't care about what people think about me or what they call me because it can't hurt me.
It's pointless to a degree.
So how do people get from the victim mentality Or fearful of speaking their truth, because that's what it is.
These people are fearful of speaking their truth.
How do they raise their vibration from victim to freedom of expression of their truth?
And do they need to let go of these labels?
Well, I think people need to see the labels as what they are, brief experiences.
On an eternal journey of experience.
You know, don't worry about the experience that's happening now.
Of course, there'll be another one along in a minute.
Just when life eternally happens.
But, I mean, where do I start with all that?
There's so many elements to it which connect together.
First of all, and I've been saying this now for 30 years, One of the biggest fears, certainly the biggest prison that people live in, is the fear of what other people think.
Now, why are you frightened of what other people think of you?
Why? What's it matter?
They'll think something else tomorrow.
I'm the living proof of that.
I couldn't walk down any street in Britain and further afield at one point without being laughed at by almost everybody, certainly in Britain.
And now people are...
Focusing on my information, great numbers of whom were laughing at me years ago, because it's turned out to be true.
But if I'd have censored myself 20, 30 years ago and not put out what I knew would get me laughed at and ridiculed, Then people wouldn't be looking at my work in great numbers now saying, well, you know, he must have something to say because he's been right.
Look what he said all those years ago.
What if I hadn't said it?
And I came out and said, oh, I knew this was coming.
Oh, yeah, of course you did.
So if you speak your truth and your truth has validity, it will eventually be shown to be so.
And if people abuse you or ridicule you, well, so what?
Okay. What do you think about people that abuse you?
Well, I don't think it's fair, right?
What about people who ridicule you and just make fun of you?
Well, I think that's horrible.
Right, so you think those people are horrible and you think they're not being fair.
Well, yeah. So what the hell are you worried about what they think of you for?
Why? It's ridiculous.
Be yourself.
Be yourself. Oscar Wilde said, worse to the effect of, be yourself, everyone else is taken.
Express your uniqueness and don't let anyone seek to turn you into a clone of them because, and we see this on social media all the time, And you see it with virtue signaling all the time.
Virtue signaling has become a new human disease.
It's the real pandemic, virtue signaling.
What it is, is because you want people to like you, the worst thing you can do if you want to destroy your freedom is to have as your priority, or anything like your priority, people liking you.
And people thinking nice things about you.
It's the worst thing you can do. Because the moment you concede to that, you are now going to start living your life.
You're going to start censoring your life to fit in with how others want you to be so they'll like you and they'll think good things about you.
Switch that around.
Why am I concerned about what someone thinks of me or whatever when they don't even have the basic respect for me that I should have the right to my own unique opinion.
What are you doing trying to get those people to see you in a certain way for?
They've got no respect for you!
They don't even respect your right to have a different opinion from them.
What are you doing? Go and find some other people, there's lots of them now, who will respect your right to have a different opinion.
And stop living your life as someone else wants you to be.
Otherwise, you are no longer you, unique you.
You are a clone, a version of what someone else wants you to be.
Now, take this collectively.
And that's exactly what's being done to the human race, where people are being intimidated into acquiescence and conformity to a prevailing authority-imposed belief system that some people go with it because they've never had a question or an original thought in their life.
They've not allowed themselves to have one.
Or others who don't believe what they're being told but acquiesce anyway through fear of the consequences and anyway what will people think of me could give a damn.
So when you are in this situation, you look at social media.
If you have certain views on social media, then you are likely to get a Twitter storm.
Yawn goes back to sleep and hopes when he wakes up sanity will Will have reigned.
So it doesn't matter what some bloke in his bedroom thinks about you or writes about you on Twitter.
It really doesn't matter.
What matters is that you express your uniqueness and demand that you have the right to do that.
But what happens is, and we're into Orwell's two and two equals four, two and two equals five.
What's happening across the great range of subjects is that 2 and 2 equals 4 is now being presented as 2 and 2 equals 5.
I mean, don't start me on political correctness and all the things that go with it, all this woke mentality.
The woke mentality is simply seeking to impose upon the population two and two equals five to replace two and two equals four.
That's why even if you are factually correct, it's no defense to woke because facts are of no importance to woke.
So you've got this two and two equal five being imposed.
Now, you can stand there, as people like me do, and say, equals four!
How many times did you tell me?
It equals four! Sorry, don't be ridiculous!
Or, you can concede to two and two equals five, because it's easier that way.
Oh, yeah, look, he's a good bloke.
Oh, she's lovely.
She believes two and two equals five.
She's one of us, right?
He's one of us. And what happens to many people in this psychological transition is that at the start, they realize that two and two actually equals four, but they consciously go with five because it's easier that way.
And I get good comments on Twitter.
But eventually, that fuses into believing it equals five, and then the whole psyche, collectively, individually, is transformed into another state in which we live, as we do now, in a post-fact society.
Because we have to live in a post-fact society.
It's why we have fake news galore, called the mainstream media, and why we have all the censorship, etc., It's because two and two equal five can demonstrably be demolished by factual evidence.
So we have to shut down the factual evidence that's demolishing your illusion.
And eventually it becomes the norm simply through repetition of two and two equals five.
Two and two equals five. Everyone knows that.
How do you mean everyone knows that?
Well, everyone says it does exactly.
Doesn't mean it does though.
And what we're now having, they're giving us names for it, Pete.
The new normal. What is the new normal?
The new normal is 2 and 2 equals 5 across the great range of society.
And people are conceding to that because they fear the consequences of not doing so.
But like I say, when you re-evaluate your self-identity, You do what you know to be right.
You do what you believe to be right.
You say what you believe to be right.
And consequences are of no consequence to you.
Why would they be?
I'm on it, like everyone else, I'm on an eternal journey of exploring forever, forever.
And I'm going to I'm going to edit myself.
I'm going to censor myself.
I'm going to be pulled into the collective bubble because somebody says I have to and they'll shout abuse and ridicule if I don't.
Are you having a laugh?
But if you are in that, I am my labels mode, that becomes massive to you, what people think of you, because you can only perceive yourself as within the three score years and 10 of a life.
But when you see yourself as consciousness having a brief experience, the totality of your perception of what you call life is vastly, vastly expanded.
And so what happens in this tiny little...
Period. That we call a human life becomes irrelevant.
Certainly irrelevant enough not to stop you saying what you believe.
And we're seeing this more and more.
People being intimidated into lying.
I won't have it. I won't have it.
What I love... That you've been speaking about throughout this whole conversation is the infinite possibility realm, where we have infinite possibilities in which we can create our life on a day-to-day or minute-to-minute basis.
And that, to me, is freedom.
Knowing that we have our imagination and our intuition, and I'd like for you to talk to us a little bit about our innate intelligence or our intuition, because I posted something the other day and I shared it.
Before you comment about this post, read it and then read it again and then feel these words that you're reading.
And then if you choose, you can comment, but really feel into it and see if there's any truth to what this is.
Because I feel like there's so much information that people take in, but very rarely do they actually feel into the words that are being spoken.
They might see who's speaking the words and react to that person because they've already got a belief about that person.
Instead of really thinking into their intuition and thinking about all the possible paths that one can take in life.
So can we talk about our innate intelligence and our intuition, why some people seem to Not even know how to listen to their intuition or be in flow state.
Well, the thing is, you've just described what I was talking about earlier.
If you have a programmed perception that is rigid and immovable, then you will read the same text That someone who has a more fluid sense of possibility, and you will read it in a completely different way.
How many times when people have conversations and arguments, or they read text on something and someone will react, and they'll say, but I never said that!
Oh, yes, you did!
Now, to, oh, yes, you did, you did say it.
Because that's what they saw.
That's how self-fulfilling prophecies are.
You mentioned a few minutes ago that people have a certain view of a person.
So they will...
Read something from that person or watch something from that person and they will have a preconceived idea which will process that information to confirm the preconceived idea even though the person is not saying what the preconceived idea believes it would say.
I'll give you an example.
I'm saying that we are all points of attention within the same infinite state of consciousness.
I'm saying the labels that we give ourselves are just brief experiences, whether they're racial labels, religious labels, sexual labels, doesn't matter.
They're all brief experiences.
And yet, I was banned from Australia by a very moronic man called David Coleman, the immigration minister, who's also spineless because he just rubber-stamped what people in the shadows told him.
And because that I am in some way a racist, excuse me, can you please give me a philosophy?
That can be possibly less racist Then the body, whatever color, creed, or background it is, is just a brief experience and not who we are.
And we shouldn't be self-identifying with labels.
We should be perceiving ourselves as one consciousness having different experiences.
Now, you can't get any less discriminatory or racist than that.
But because, well, A, these organizations like the...
Anti-Defamation Commission, this man and a dog organization in Australia that works to silence people that he wants to silence on the basis of what it wants to silence, not on what people actually stand for.
They will, on purpose, and others who are programmed but not knowingly part of a web of censorship, They will read what you say and they will hear what you say.
And even though you have a philosophy that is as far from racist or discriminatory as it's possible to have, they won't hear that.
Because it literally deviates from the script going through their head.
And it deviates from that which their programmed perceptions will allow themselves to decode.
And this is why you can talk to people for ages, but they'll never hear you.
Because they can't hear you.
Of course, the program won't literally process the information you're saying, so it hears what it thinks you would be saying according to its view of what you are.
It's hilarious, really.
This is what happens. And you mentioned the journalist earlier.
Well, journalists put people in boxes because they themselves are in boxes.
It's projection.
You know, if you look at, like I said earlier, a human life, you come out of the womb, you're influenced by your parents' perceptions, which they pass on to you.
You then go to school at a very, very early age, and for all your formative years, you're receiving, day after day after day after day, the state's version of reality, which is what I call the postage stamp consensus.
It's Ludicrously narrow band of possibility.
You then get tested in exams for how much of the programming you've absorbed.
And you then get a reward.
You're given a degree to recognize your level of programming.
It's no accident that in secret societies, they've broken up into degrees.
And then you go out into the world and you go out into journalism, you go out into banking, you go out into politics, you go out into medicine, you go out into science, academia.
And you take with you that core programming that everyone's been through.
Now you're meeting people who've been through the same process you've been through, but earlier.
In whatever institution you go into.
And they are confirming to you that what you were programmed to believe at school and university is actually true.
And so you get, everyone knows that, mate.
In other words, everyone's repeating the same stuff and thus it must be true.
It's not true at all, most of it.
The greatest form of my control is repetition.
Just keep repeating the same thing and people accept it's true without any factual evidence.
And what people like me do is check the factual evidence and the whole everyone knows that falls on the floor in tiny pieces because none of it stands up.
It's just perceived to be real and how things are simply by constant repetition.
So when you're a journalist, You have the added incentive to conform to the postage stamp consensus and to conform to the official narrative.
Why do people own the newspapers and own the television stations and radio stations?
Because they are defending the official narrative from all borders.
And you, therefore, come from that perspective out of sheer Not just programming, although massively that, but from sheer self-preservation.
Career self-preservation.
Because if you start putting out that people like me might have some validity, or maybe we ought to just look at this a bit, maybe we've got some interesting things to say, bang!
That's the end of you, mate.
And so, what's that great line?
Words to the effect of...
People are far more likely to believe something if their income is dependent on believing it.
So they just do what is necessary.
And if you do it often enough, day after day, it becomes you.
You're no longer making a decision of, I am knowingly doing this, knowing what's happening, that I am conforming.
Conforming becomes your sense of real.
So it just becomes second nature.
And so you're in a box, so you want to put everyone else in a box.
Because people who won't go in the box make you feel uncomfortable.
They're actually prodding you in the chest and reminding you...
That you're in a box and that's uncomfortable to them.
They don't want to know that. They want to persuade themselves that they are free-thinking, free individuals when actually they're in a box.
And so you remind them of that by not being in a box and they get very uncomfortable, sometimes very angry.
During that interview?
I came out of it and where you started this conversation about being light, being free, by having that frequency.
Going into that interview, I was nervous.
To be honest, I was a little bit anxious because I was like, I know I'm stepping into the lion's den.
I know I already have a pretty bad reputation out there in the general public for my stance on vaccines, fluoride, sunscreen, just the normal sort of run-of-the-mill things that I don't believe we should be putting into our bodies.
Yeah, I mean, it's very controversial to be against putting poison in your body and on your body.
And for the week leading up to it, because there was potential repercussions for my children and my family, and I had to take it on board.
You know, it was a large 60 minutes.
It was a big deal, apparently.
And at the end of the interview on the first day, I felt so light and so free.
And I said to the interviewer the next day, because we had to film some B-roll walking on the beach, And we formed a connection during our two days together.
And I said to her, I said, I have to tell you something.
For the last week since you asked me to do this, I thought this was about me.
I said, I was meditating this morning and I've got to tell you what came to me.
I said, I actually think this whole thing, this whole interview is for you.
I don't know what you want to do with that, but I feel like there's something that has happened or transpired over the last two days that we've been together that is going to take your view of the world in a very different way.
And when we were having the interview the day before this, I could see the uncomfortability in the interviewer asking me the questions.
I did some breathing exercises in the morning and meditations and had a beautiful cup of tea.
I sat there in Lotus while I was being interviewed.
Looking in the eyes, and I could feel the uncomfortableness, the energy from the interviewer, and I don't mean any disrespect to her because they invited me on the program, but that's what I felt.
I felt like there was uncomfortableness in her sitting opposite me and asking me these questions.
And I think it's what you were just saying then, because they're in that box.
When they're presented with somebody that I was speaking my truth, I think it can be very uncomfortable for them, and I'm sure you've experienced this yourself over the years.
Well, the thing is, when you're nervous before an interview, the cause of the nerves is, how will people see me?
How will people perceive me as a result of this interview?
How will they perceive me in the way that I respond to the questions, etc.?
Once you let go of this incompleteness, this fear of what other people think, the nerves disappear.
Of course, there's nothing to be nervous about.
And so, as you were doing the interview, your Concern with what other people thought got less and less and less.
And therefore, at the end, you were nothing like you were in the days before.
And this is the difference between...
Whether you care about what other people think or whether you don't.
And that's not said in a, I don't care what other people think.
You listen to what people say, and you see if it has validity.
But when you choose, actually, this is how I see it, then you don't edit or censor that.
You say what you think. And how people receive that is their problem.
How people view me is not my problem, their problem.
You know, if they think I'm this, that, and the other, well, good luck to you.
I'm not bothered, mate. You have a right to conclude about me whatever you want, but I have the right not to care.
It's not about not caring.
I mean, I've given 30 years of my life trying to make a difference.
I care about what's happening in the world.
I care about the way people are affected.
But I don't care what they think of me.
Because if I do, I become them, either massively or incrementally, step after step.
And I'm not them.
I'm me. And I will always be me.
And people will just have to take me as they see fit.
It's up to them, not me.
I do want to bring this up with you, David, as well.
Because in that interview, we discussed Bill Gates.
And I had shared a meme previously to that interview where Bill Gates was in the Matrix with Morpheus holding two blue pills, and I shared that.
And the journalist asked me, they said, do you believe Bill Gates is behind this pandemic?
And I said, no, I never said that.
They said, well, why did you share that meme of Bill Gates holding two blue pills?
I said, my perception is what I've heard him say on public television interviews is that the new normal will only happen when every single person on the planet is vaccinated.
And the journalist said...
You have influence as well, Pete, to influence people.
I said, yeah, but I have no intention of putting anything into anybody's body.
And she said, he doesn't have the ability or the influence to be able to do that.
And I said, maybe if you look at the World Health Organization and maybe how our governments are interacting with the World Health Organization, I said, maybe you want to have a look at the Imperial College of London and Neil Ferguson and go down that rabbit hole.
The journalist had no idea about the Imperial College of London and the computer modelling and all of this sort of stuff.
And I was like, whoa, you're meant to be an investigative journalist and you're asking me about Bill Gates and all the tentacles that come out of that.
But no, I do not want to inject anybody or do anything to anyone.
They said, would you take an injection?
And I said, no, I would not, because they can't prove that it's safe.
Look at that story.
It all fits in what I've been talking about.
The mainstream media, including Silicon Valley, the devil's playground, is there to protect the official narrative.
It's there to protect the postage stamp consensus.
Now, if you investigate Bill Gates as a proper journalist, if you investigate Imperial College and Professor Neil Ferguson as a proper journalist and the advisers to the British government and the advisers to Trump on this, quote, virus like Fauci and Birx in America, Then you are off the postage stamp pretty damn quick because you're starting to see that these people are not operating in isolation in their particular countries or in their particular area of influence.
They're all connected and they are advancing the same global agenda.
So, A, I've said many, many times over the years, The two most ignorant professions that I've ever come across about the way the world works and what's going on are journalists, and I used to be one for a long time in the mainstream, including with the BBC, and politicians.
And you can put academia up there as well, big time.
And so on that level alone of being uninformed, journalists are right up there.
Investigative journalism in the mainstream today consists overwhelmingly Of reading the morning papers and watching the newsroom 24 hour television news.
And what is that?
That's repetition of the same narrative.
What's the greatest form of my control?
Repetition of the same thing.
And on the other side.
If that journalist went down the road of truly investigating Bill Gates and investigating Imperial College and Ferguson and Fauci and all the rest of it, then they wouldn't get it on air.
They wouldn't get it in the newspaper.
And if they persisted, they'd be out the door.
So you've got this combination of ignorance and career protection That is pressuring the journalists to stay on the postage stand.
So, what they call, I mean, conspiracy theory and conspiracy theorists Those terms came into widespread use through the CIA in the 1960s.
Documents exist to prove it.
They wrote to major media operations in America when people weren't buying the official story, the laughable official story of the Kennedy assassination, which had bullets doing U-turns and changing at ridiculous angles.
Through different people.
They weren't buying it because actually they had a brain cell that was in working order.
And it began to build.
And so what the CIA did is they wrote to media organizations in America, urging them to do a series of things.
And among them was to label these people conspiracy theories and what they were saying, conspiracy theories to discredit them.
And now it's become an all-encompassing label for anyone who's questioning the official narrative, which by definition means that the mainstream media must believe that all official narratives are all true, and they would never lie to us.
And some journalists might reel back and say, oh no, we know they lied to us.
Well, that is not evident at any time When people challenge the official narrative, people like me, you never say, well, it might have a point here.
No! You always attack on the basis that I'm saying something different to the norm, therefore it's got to be not true.
They would never work that out.
So what is a conspiracy?
Look at the dictionary definition.
It's two or more people conspiring together to manipulate a particular end, often illegal.
On that basis, we're drowning in conspiracies.
But I don't see conspiracies everywhere.
I see one conspiracy to globally, centrally control the planet.
And that one conspiracy has phenomenal numbers of faces, all working to the same end.
And so, for instance, you have...
Because Bill Gates is behind vaccinating, but only on his level.
This... Cult, you can symbolize it as a pyramid.
And you've got people at the top of the pyramid, the in the shadows people who are absolutely driving this.
And then you've got the representatives operating in the public arena on behalf of the cult.
That are making their contribution to introducing what the Cult in the Shadows is demanding.
And Bill Gates is one of them.
George Soros is another one, etc.
Zuckerberg's another one.
I mean, the idea that Zuckerberg is running Facebook is hilarious.
And so you can see these connections in a simple example of what's been going on recently, what's going on now.
The World Health Organization, which is controlled by Gates, he's the second biggest funder of the And if Trump goes through and stops funding that, as he says, then Gates will be the biggest funder.
Tedros, the deeply, deeply, breathtakingly corrupt Director General of the World Health Organization out of Ethiopia, used to be on the payroll of a Gates organization.
He's Gates' front man.
And so the World Health Organization sets the agenda for what, A, what people should believe about this, quote, virus, and B, how countries should respond to it.
I.e., as Ted Ross said, and as Gates has said, do what China did.
In other words, have these lockdowns everywhere, which have absolutely destroyed the world economy and the independent livelihoods of staggering numbers of people.
Then, another element of this web, this pyramid...
Is the Silicon Valley communication giants like Google.
Google owned YouTube and Facebook.
And what have they said? We are going to censor information that deviates from the World Organization narrative.
And the reason that is happening is because that which owns the World Health Organization also owns the Silicon Valley communication giants and owns Apple and owns YouTube and owns Amazon, etc. So Gates is a very significant operative within that web, within that pyramid.
And so he is behind it, but only up to a point is that behind him, of which he is just a gopher, rich as he may be.
Because what they do, what this web does is it has front people Who are there to, say, front up technology that's coming out of underground bases, but they can't tell you that, so they have to say it's been invented by some geek in his garage.
And they have front people that bring this, for instance, in the technology arena, this technology out of the underground bases, and they give it a cover story about where it came from.
And they get tremendously rich as a result.
But there's a rider. There's a rider with Gates.
There's a rider with Soros.
There's a rider with all of them.
And that is that great chunks of that wealth that you've gained as a result of being a front man for the web must be spent on advancing the agenda of the web.
And so they do this through the illusion of philanthropy, which has the added bonus of
giving them massive tax exemptions.
And so you've got Gates, for instance, because he's accrued so much money through Microsoft,
he is funding a wish list of cult agendas.
He's basically bought American education through something called Common Core.
He is a front man for GMO, front man for geoengineering the skies.
And overwhelmingly, he's the front man for controlling the World Health Policy through the World Health Organization and others.
And so you've got Ted Ross, who's a Director General of the World Health Organization, Gates front man.
You've got the chief medical officer in Britain called Chris Whitty.
He received a $40 million grant from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, philanthropy, some time ago.
You've got the chief scientific advisor to the UK government called Balance, who was a long-term executive of GlaxoSmithKline, That has massive business and financial connections to Bill Gates.
The same story can be told about Fauci and Birx in America, and so on and so forth.
And then you had Professor Neil Ferguson Who produced the computer models.
Computer models work like this.
Crap in, crap out.
The outcome of a computer projection is dictated by the information put in at the other end.
So they're manipulatable.
So easy. I mean, it's a child's play.
It has to be because Ferguson's involved.
So Ferguson comes out from the Bill Gates massively funded Imperial College, and Ferguson has an operation within that, massively funded by Bill Gates, comes out with the computer models, ludicrous to anyone with a passable consciousness.
That half a million people were going to die in Britain and two million in America unless there was lockdown, which is what they wanted to transform human society.
And he came out with them.
And everywhere you look is Bill Gates.
Here's a Gates everywhere a Gates Gates in this whole pandemic arena.
He led...
With the 1% Fest, the World Economic Forum, a simulation six weeks before the pandemic hoax was played in China, his organization was involved in a simulation of a coronavirus epidemic That involved, you know, all the 1% organizations, basically, and an organization called Johns Hopkins University in America.
Big Gates connections.
And who, since the pandemic hoax was played, has been compiling the case and death figures worldwide, which the media are constantly repeating.
Johns Hopkins University.
And it's all...
It's all preordained.
So you have Bill Gates in 2015 in a TED talk predicting this pandemic.
You have Gates involved in this simulation of a coronavirus pandemic six weeks before the thing was played.
And it's reported as prophecy.
Oh, this man saw it coming.
Well, if I knew something was coming, I could predict he was coming.
You just know it's coming because you're part of making it happen.
And so Gates is up to his neck.
And for someone to come out...
Who is this guy? Eh?
He's flogging software.
That's how he made his money.
How does he go from that to dictating that everyone on the planet has to be vaccinated, otherwise they can't come out of lockdown?
What? Hello?
I listened to something yesterday, I shared it on my social media, it was Bill and Melinda Gates, and it was a very short little video, but they were doing an interview and they were talking about how Taiwan, New Zealand and Australia had done very, very well.
And then he said that when the next wave comes, it was something like to the lines as, It was nearly like a warning that something like Australia, New Zealand, Taiwan, You're going to have to pay closer attention for the next time that this comes through.
And smiling about it in a way that just...
I shared it and the overwhelming response from people was like, why is the body language so happy about this second wave?
Bill Gates is a psychopath.
In fact, he's a super psychopath.
He's beyond just the definition of A regular psychopath.
He's overseen and been delighted about, that's why you see the body language he can't hide, that he's destroyed the world economy and the ability of vast numbers of people to have an independent income because that makes them dependent on the state, which is something I've been predicting in the books for a long, long time, not on the basis of, you know, making it happen, but on the basis of knowing what they wanted to make happen.
Can I ask a question for you, David?
What is the solution?
What is the solution?
Please go ahead. I'll just finish this one point because this second wave is important.
I've been saying this second wave is coming almost since the first wave started.
Basically, these are waves of two things.
First of all, when it started, they were waves of cases that were decided on the basis of symptoms.
What's the symptom of the coronavirus, SARS-2, COVID-19?
It's flu-like symptoms.
Flu-like symptoms in the middle of the flu season.
All right. Pneumonia, yeah, in the middle of the pneumonia season when more people get pneumonia in the year.
And now they're adding more and more symptoms to pull more and more people into believing they've got it.
And then they come out to add to the symptoms.
Which was simply being designated COVID-19 when they would normally be designated flu or whatever it was the real cause was.
And they come out with a test called the PCR test.
And the creator of the test, a guy called Carey Mullis in the 1980s who won a Nobel Prize for inventing it, he actually came out and said this test should not be used for diagnosing or testing for infectious disease.
That's the creator!
And that's what they're doing.
The PCR test is not tests for COVID-19.
And so when they're saying now, oh, there's more and more cases, well, the more and more you test, the more and more cases you'll get, but not of COVID-19, of what actually this test is testing for, which is an RNA genetic code, which is in the bodies of many, many, many people. It won't cause them any harm.
It's just genetic material.
And this is why the vast majority of people who are tested positive for COVID-19 have no symptoms.
They have no symptoms because there's nothing wrong with them.
Because they haven't got COVID-19.
It doesn't exist. And so the more you test...
The more cases you're going to get.
Oh, more cases!
We need another lockdown!
And then you say, oh, people are dying of it.
Oh, no, they're not. What they're dying of is what people have always died of, but they're being re-designated COVID-19.
Not only is this coming from the top, of the medical pyramids in every country that doctors and medical staff should do this and the evidence is overwhelming from doctors and loved ones and families who've come out around the world and exposed this but in America they're even giving you a financial incentive if you In a hospital, diagnose regular pneumonia, the hospital gets $4,600.
If they diagnose it COVID-19 pneumonia, they get $13,000.
And if they take a COVID-19 pneumonia diagnosis and put them on a ventilator, they get...
$39,000.
Now, if you have a real virus, as with human caused climate change, if you have a real problem with human caused climate change, you don't have to fix the data.
Your problem will speak for itself.
But of course, they've been exposed over and over fixing the climate data because there isn't a real problem.
They have to invent one. And exactly the same scams being played on this virus pandemic, a pandemic that was declared, by the way, by Ted Ross, Gates's man at the World Health Organization.
And they are doing it by a fake test that's not testing for COVID-19.
This is why some people are testing positive and then testing negative and then testing positive again.
I mean, it's meaningless.
There's a story on my website today, which a couple of investigative writers have done, which actually the headline is, you know, the PCR test data is meaningless.
It's absolutely meaningless. I've been saying it for months.
And so if we come to the second wave, see, it's a few things that come from this.
Why Does this overwhelmingly kill old people and absolutely, virtually untouch younger people?
If you're under 70, the chances of infection to fatality is 0.004%.
And the lower you come from 70, the lower that gets until it's zero.
Why is that?
Well, What do old people have that younger people don't have?
Lots of other mortalities, or morbidities as they call them, that will end their life.
And therefore, there is endless potential to redesignate what ends their life, COVID-19, whereas with young people, they overwhelmingly do not have those morbidities, so there's nothing you can redesignate to say they've died of COVID-19.
And that's why it's happening.
There isn't a virus, so they need the people with most other reasons to die to give the illusion of the deaths.
And, you know, like I say, I've got a book at the princess at the moment which absolutely demolishes strand by strand this whole scam.
And so, what happens in the summer in the northern hemisphere is people have fewer and fewer respiratory problems, etc., because of the nature of the sunshine.
We've had a brilliant summer here.
And so there's less potential to redesignate.
And the death figures go down.
But the case figures don't have to go down because you're getting them from a PCR test that's not testing for COVID-19.
But if you come now, Pete, into the northern hemisphere winter, which is basically what Gates is talking about with his massive numbers of cases coming, second wave, You're going to get people starting to cough, starting to have colds, starting to have flu, starting to have pneumonia, as they always do from other causes, and you're going to see a hysteria of designating them COVID-19.
And that's where the second wave is going to come from.
It's all planned. That's why I was able to say that months ago, this is coming.
And they want people to go back into serious lockdown as they come up the hysteria even more than it has been to this point.
And so they give you a choice.
Well, they don't really want to give you a choice, but if they have to.
Plan A, everyone must be vaccinated.
And if there's enough pushback on that, that they can't enforce it, plan B, you can't come out of lockdown unless you're vaccinated.
So this is the plan.
And there's another point as I finish on this.
Watch what Bill Gates says.
You've made the point quite rightly already.
Because he's telling you what's coming or what's planned to come.
And he's talked about the fact that pandemic too is coming.
And he re-designated what we've had, Pandemic 1.
And he's indicating that Pandemic 2 could be a bioweapon, right?
And so when he's saying, oh, the next wave could be worse, he's telling you what's planned.
And it doesn't necessarily have to be a bioweapon.
You see, a lot of the alternative media has been going on about the fact that this first wave was a result of a bioweapon being released from the Wuhan lab.
Well, Show me the dead people for the release of a bioweapon.
It's just not there.
You don't have to fix figures when you've released a bioweapon.
And the other thing is, if you release a bioweapon, you lose control of it.
And you're going to take out people, quite probably, that actually, although they're not part of you, and they don't even know about you, they are essential to your agenda playing out because of what they're doing within the pyramids of Of hierarchical governments, etc. So you don't want them taken out.
Well, you've lost control. They may well be.
It's much easier if you don't have a virus, but you give the illusion of one, because you're now in control of it.
You control where the figures go up.
Do less testing, cases will fall.
Do less redesignating, deaths will fall.
And so, quite possibly, it's quite possible that They'll vaccinate people for this.
And then the cases will start to fall.
And the deaths will start to fall.
But they won't fall because of the vaccine.
They'll fall because they're now redesignating it to make it seem as if it's the vaccine.
And one other thing. You look at the flu vaccine.
What they're saying now is, oh, it's mutating.
You've got to have a flu vaccine every year.
That's what they want to do with this.
Oh, COVID-19, it's...
It's mutating. We're going to have to have a new vaccine every year.
Like I said right at the start of this chat, it's a psychological, psyop, mind game, perception manipulation game.
But like I say, even if they say it's a bioweapon on this second wave or something like that, it doesn't have to be.
Not really. Just get the perception of it.
See, if you look at, certainly in the northern hemisphere, the real kicking of the numbers and the lockdown justified by the projected numbers came quite late.
You know, people started locking down.
I think it was March the 9th in Italy and such like that.
That's when it started.
But, you know, November, December, January in the Northern Hemisphere and outside of China, pretty much nothing happened, right?
And then it started to kick in through February and into March.
But if you pick it up in October, November, just as the respiratory, the flu, etc.
season starts... Then you can make it seem vastly greater than it was before.
And you can designate it's caused by this or that and the other.
But what's happening is you're just redesignating more and more people who have respiratory and other disease based on other causes, COVID-19.
And it can seem that suddenly this second wave is so much bigger than the first.
And again, it's all perception.
I'll ask you a question just with the vaccine before we get into the solutions and finish up because I know I've taken a lot of your time tonight or this morning for you.
I watched a video the other day and I can't guarantee its authenticity but it was talking about a test vaccine that somebody's already seen that may have two ingredients in it that will affect the male population Sperm and female fertility at the same time.
Is this conspiritual thinking that a vaccine might be able to cause infertility so the population doesn't reproduce?
Is that way out thinking and off the mark?
Or could there be a kernel of truth in what that vaccine might do?
What would the vaccine do?
Or is it just a money-making tool?
Well, the Plan is, well, I mean, you know, we could start this interview again and I could talk for the same amount of time on this.
Maybe we could do this another time and talk about this particular area.
But where do I start?
There's so many dots to connect.
Yes, there is a war on human fertility because they are in the process of transforming the human form from a biological form to what they call synthetic biology.
That's why all this synthetic stuff, this synthetic biological stuff is going on now.
It's a discipline of science.
They've got synthetic blood, synthetic organs, synthetic skin, synthetic all these things.
And they want to move to a world which was actually described by Aldous Huxley in Brave New World, came out in 1932.
And as I've said over the years, this agenda is projected So far forward, more than people can perceive that it's possible, but it is.
This is why Orwell was able to talk about technology like telescreens that didn't exist at the time.
And it's why Oxley in 1932 could talk about chemical, drug, and reproductive concepts that were unthinkable then.
It's because there's two worlds.
There's the world that this cult lives in and there's the world that the rest of us live in.
And if you can access the cult world either through 30 years of research like me or by being an insider, then you can very easily project the future because unless something intervenes to stop that cult agenda becoming reality, then you're predicting the future by predicting the cult agenda.
It's real simple. The idea of people like me is to stop that happening.
Not to be proved right.
Oh, we said this and it's happened.
But actually to stop it happening.
That's the whole point of putting it out there.
So you have this long-term agenda.
And part of it is to bring about, as Huxley rightly described, the end of human procreation.
So that the human biological synthetic body would be through basically technological means that they would create them in laboratories.
This is what Huxley described as the world state hatcheries when it was the end of parents and the end of procreation.
So at the same time that these vaccines are designed to destroy Human procreation potential through sperm and on the woman's side, you have sperm counts plummeting around the world.
People say, what's going on?
I go into this in my books and explain what's going on and why.
And, you know, people like Robert Kennedy Jr., who's a big anti-vax campaigner in America from, obviously, the Kennedy family, he has pointed out that Gates vaccines have sterilized kids in places like Africa.
So this is real.
And, you know, if you want to affect all the...
All the people at the same time, then you want to get inside their bodies with the same stuff.
That's why Gates is saying everyone in the world has to be vaccinated.
This is why they're saying, oh, it looks like you can't get immunity for COVID-19.
What's that mean? Even if you've officially had it, you've still got to have the vaccination.
They don't want anyone left out because they want everyone to be the same.
So sterilization is absolutely part of this, so they can move to their brave new world of creating life in a different way.
And the other side of this, as I've said from the start of all this, in fact, long before any of this came, is that they are putting nanotechnology, nanomicrochips, known as nanobots, into vaccinations.
They want it in this one, big time.
And nanobots Are self-replicating.
They're almost forms of life, you might say.
They're self-replicating nanotechnology, which once in the body, replicates and replicates and changes the nature of the body.
This is what it's all about.
And it's been in my books for years, so what people are now saying about this vaccine is of no surprise to me, because I've been saying it for years.
And so...
The vaccine, and I said this from day one as well, the vaccine that they're planning was in place before the pandemic was played.
It's just sitting there, the ingredients, sitting there.
And they're going through all this...
Mind game. Oh, we're working for a vaccine.
We're doing it as fast as possible.
And all this stuff. This nonsense.
The ingredients already exist.
It's nothing to do with the virus.
They haven't even isolated the virus.
They've never purified the virus to show the virus exists.
They've never done it. So how can you have a test for a virus you've never isolated and showed to exist?
Or a virus you've never shown to exist and therefore never shown to cause an infectious disease.
How could you then have a vaccine for a virus you've never isolated, purified and shown to exist, which they never have, provable fact?
Why? Because nothing about, nothing to do with the virus.
It's an excuse to get into the body, the ingredients of this vaccine, which will have these effects.
Doesn't mean...
That once you have it, everything is going to change.
It will be cumulative and it will take time.
But because, you know, if you put a vaccine in someone and they keel over or something very strange or unpleasant happens, then the others in the line, they're going to go, hold on a minute.
I ain't having that. So it's not something that's going to happen just like that.
It's going to be cumulative and so cumulative that...
It's very likely that lots of people won't connect it to the vaccine at all.
But this is what the plan is all about.
And this is not being wise after the event.
Look at my books from the 1990s.
You'll see the plan that I'm talking about.
I've interviewed Robert Kennedy Jr myself and other experts in the vaccine industry and field and they say that one of the questions that I often ask is the accumulative effect and it's not like something happens today.
I mean, it does happen and I've interviewed a lot of mothers and their children that said something has happened within 24 hours of having a vaccine.
Quite a lot of the research now shows that it might take 5, 10, 15, 20 years for something to manifest or to be diagnosed from that.
So, yeah, I understand what you're saying.
And it's going to be very interesting.
So I want to finish, David, with solutions for each and every single one of us that are watching this.
Because when I've heard you talk about the heart, that this is...
This is what we have.
This is nearly our number one defense or offense for us to operate from here.
How do we do that?
How do we do that with all of this that's going on?
There's two things.
First of all, you know, the heart.
I'm not talking about the physical heart.
I mean, there are connections. I'm talking about the energetic heart, the vortex.
In the center of the chest, within the human energetic field, because the body is a projection of this human energetic field.
That's the connection to out there.
These are not connections to out there.
They can be. I mean, you know, there are other points of connection, but this is the main one, the heart.
And what they want to do is shut the heart down.
And you can see in the body language...
Where intuition, which is insight beyond the five senses, comes from.
Because someone goes, I'm thinking, I'm thinking.
But when they say, I know, the hands go here overwhelmingly.
I know, I just know.
Because it's instinctively going from where the knowing is coming from.
And once you open your heart, you don't just open your heart to what people call love, although our perception of love is nothing like what I'm talking about.
But But you open your connection to innate intelligence.
You open your connection to expanded awareness out of this heart vortex.
And suddenly you start getting intuitive knowing and intuitive insights.
And note that when you're trying to conclude something and you're coming from the head alone, You go through a thought process of trying to work it out.
There's kind of a sequence.
But when you come from here, intuition, it's instant.
There's no process.
You just know.
Why do you think you've got to do that?
I just know. I just know I've got to do it.
It's an all-encompassing know and not a working it out.
And this has to work it out because it doesn't know.
This does not have to work it out because it's connected to that level of awareness that does know.
And most people have this war It goes on between what they know instinctively and intuitively they should do or they want to do and this, which is the program postage stamp, constantly telling them why they shouldn't follow this.
And what's transformed my life in 30 years is I've decided to follow this and let this come into line, not the other way around.
What happens is you access tremendous levels of Awareness and information that anyone can do, which you can't if you're only in five cents mode.
So when I started on this road in the early 1990s, consciously, just when I look back, my whole life has been leading the same direction.
Then I would conclude from information I collated what a situation was.
But very soon, in the early to mid-90s, There was a shift.
And that was, I knew what was happening.
And then the five cents information, facts, dates, people, places would come after that.
But the knowing came first.
And that's gone on ever since.
Anyone, if they choose to, can open up to this level of awareness where they can get this insight from.
You know, you see these great composers and even people like Einstein.
They said, you know, he actually said words to the effect.
He didn't get his great discoveries from, you know, working it out, but actually it just came to him.
Just came to him in totality.
You just know that And that's our natural state.
Not knowing is our unnatural state, which we've been manipulated into because the difference between knowing and not knowing is the difference between human enslavement and human freedom.
And the other thing I would say, and I go into the answer, the book of the printers at the moment, I go into all this, you know, heart opening, all of the stuff.
But one thing I would say is this.
Just to bring it down to a very simplistic situation.
How do a few people control the many?
Because one result of this coronavirus hoax and the lockdowns has been that a lot of people have had to come out of denial from a line that I've heard so many times over the decades.
It's not possible for a few to control the many.
Well, hold on a second.
A few have just locked down, put under house arrest, in effect, 3 billion people plus.
So actually, that's gone out the window.
They can. But how can they?
If you think of a pyramid, the top of the pyramid is the inner core of this cult.
In the shadows, doesn't operate in the public arena.
It's driving down the pyramid, the agenda for the world.
Immediately under the pyramid, under the top of the pyramid, you've got levels that serve the cult and are aware of the cult.
But very soon as you come down the pyramid, you're meeting levels that have no idea there is a cult.
They just do what they're told by the level above them.
And this is how it works.
At the top of the pyramid, those in the cult, the inner core of the cult, they dictate the agenda for the world.
The next level acquiesces to that imposition and imposes it on the next level.
And then you go down the pyramid and it's very simple.
Each higher level imposes on the next level the agenda, and that level acquiesces to that imposition and imposes it on the next level.
And so it comes down in a process of imposition, acquiescence, imposition, acquiescence, imposition, acquiescence, until you get to the bottom of the pyramid where the mass of humanity is in this hierarchy.
And this is the key point, you know, looking at what do we do?
If humanity at that level then acquiesces to the imposition upon it by the level it's interacting with, in this case it's governments and dark suit medical bureaucrats, then a circuit has been completed.
A circuit of imposition and acquiescence all the way down the pyramid to the population and that circuit completes the imposition of an agenda dictated by the tiny few in the shadows at the top upon the entirety of the human population.
Once that circuit is completed by the population's acquiescence.
So if you want to break that circuit So that that agenda does not get imposed upon the entirety of humanity, then that humanity has to, in vast numbers, has to stop acquiescing to what it's told to do.
We've got a situation, you've got to wear a mask on public transport in Britain.
And then the same government that says that, in its own document, says masks are basically useless.
There's no evidence that they are of any use.
Because wearing the mask is not about health, it's about imposition.
Because it's training the population to become acquiescent.
And the reason you have so many contradictions And things that make no sense in terms of this coronavirus social distancing, got to do that, can't do that, you can do this, but you can't do that, and all that stuff.
The reason it's so ridiculous is because they are training people to become acquiescent.
The more contradictory and ridiculous...
The more your resistance to acquiescence is broken and diluted and diluted and diluted.
And if you look now, At children, and adults really, you go to the supermarket, you go down the street, whatever.
You are being constantly told, do this, don't do that, do that, don't do that.
And it's breaking the acquiescence resistance down so people just become computer terminals, just reacting to pressing enter all the time.
Do you know, I live in a...
I live in a town, quite a small town, on this island.
And I went out in the street yesterday, the main shopping street.
And the idiots, and they are, because I'm aware of who they are, that run the Isle of Wight, have had put big white dots, like about this big, on the pavement every two metres.
All the way down the pavement, there's a white dot!
I'm telling you that you can't go nearer than...
What? Sorry.
This is, you know, I've told them where to stick it.
The sun doesn't shine where I told them to stick it.
But it's crazy because it's not about health.
It's about all these constant stimulus.
Do this. Don't do this. Do this.
Don't do this. Break down resistance into people who are just acquiescent robots.
And they're starting with the kids in the schools now so that there'll be robots for life.
And I say this to the parents.
Where the hell are you while your kids are being abused in this way?
Every day. Never mind you bloody trainers.
Never mind the latest surveillance device from Apple.
Where are you when your kids need you to say, school?
My kids are not coming until you end this crap.
And if enough people did that, they would have to end it.
But because people don't, it goes on.
And the kids take the consequences.
It's child abuse that's going on now.
Absolute grotesque child abuse.
And the parents need to get their arses in gear before their kids become completely programmed for life.
David, I love you brother.
Thank you so much for episode one.
I would love to get you back down the track.
What a beautiful conversation.
Keep being you and keep shining that big heart of yours out there into the world too.
When you find yourself, there is no one else but you.
You wouldn't even consider trying to be anyone else.
When I say find yourself, it's simply the realisation We are all consciousness, having different experiences, and those experiences go on for all eternity.
So this one is just what you're having now.
There'll be another one along in a minute.
And I bet you're optimistic too, aren't you?
Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah.
I mean, you know, I've been on this road for 30 years.
I remember what it was like.
I remember walking down streets being laughed at by everybody.
I remember people absolutely not wanting to know.
I remember going to place after place after place and being faced with halls of empty chairs.
I know what it was like.
But now it's phenomenal in terms of the people who are re-evaluating everything.
And one of the great silver linings in the cloud of the pandemic hoax has been that things have got so extreme that a lot of people have re-evaluated.
Well, maybe the world's not like I thought it was.
So that's been very positive.
Next stage is crossing the road from the realization of what's happening.
Just ceasing to cooperate with what's happening.
And that's when the House of Cards will come down.
Well, when you come to Australia, I would love to cook you a dinner, mate.
And have a cup of tea with you.
And if they kick me out of Australia, I'm coming over to your part of the world.
Well, don't come here for a meal, mate.
You know, I could burn a salad.
But if we do have a meal, just invite David Coleman along with us.
Of course, I'd like to find out what he's done with his backbone.
Will do, mate. Will do.
Thank you so much for your time and have a beautiful day.
Cheers, mate. All the best. It's been great talking to you.
You too, brother. See you, mate.
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