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Aug. 21, 2020 - David Icke

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The Answer: Activating Peoples Will - David Icke Talks To Alex Jones

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	So if you look at human society now, it's a reflection of human consciousness.
	And when human consciousness changes, in other words, human perception changes, then the world will change to express, project that change of perception.
	So if you are frightened of authority and you acquiesce to authority, then you are going to live in a world of control because it's a projection of your perception.
	When you can break those bonds, and the bonds are almost not imposed upon us so much as we impose them on ourselves, right?
	I've not worn a mask.
	They can stick that where the sun don't shine.
	I've not rubbed sanitizer on my hands and poisoned me bloody self.
	I've not got involved in their track and trace.
	I never will do any of it.
	And therefore, I'm not acquiescing to them.
	I'm living my life as I've always lived my life.
	And everyone could do that and together we'd be unstoppable.
	What they're trying to impose upon us would be unenforceable.
	I mean, how do you enforce masks on everybody?
	There's not enough police officers for a start and you can't do it.
	You do it because people overwhelmingly acquiesce and then the next thing Is they not only acquiesce, they insist that everyone else does, the old Stasi system in East Germany.
	And so this is human consciousness today.
	We went under lockdown because Vast numbers of people believe the rubbish that they were told.
	Therefore, I've got to go into lockdown.
	That's my perception because I'm in danger.
	And it's all been proven to be a lie.
	And then Fauci says, trust the science when everything he told us was completely fraudulent.
	He couldn't spell science.
	The answer by David Icke, his newest book.
	Coming out today, we live in extraordinary times with billions of bewildered and seeking answers for what is happening.
	David Icke, the man who has been proven right again and again, has spent 30 years uncovering the truth behind world affairs and a stream of previous books.
	He predicted current events down to a T. The answer will change your every perception of life and the world set up and set you free from the illusions that control human society.
	There's nothing more vital For our collective freedom than humanity becoming aware of what is in this book.
	And I haven't read all the book.
	I've seen the graphic novel of it.
	We'll play some of that while he's on with us.
	I do intend to read it. And it's at davideich.com.
	But let me just say something right now.
	David Icke has been profound in his analysis and his piercing understanding of what's currently happening and what's going to be happening.
	And InfoWars has also been on the cutting edge of a lot of things.
	And it's not about celebrating that.
	But it's understanding the fact that we could predict it means we can also stop it.
	But it's humanity facing the horror of just how evil these forces are that will set us free.
	As long as we live in denial about it and don't face all the different compartmentalizations that come together to form this behemoth, we have no chance of beating it.
	So David was just asking what I wanted him on about.
	I've been wanting him on for a month.
	He said, I'll come out when the book comes out.
	I want him on about the book. I want him on about what he sees is coming next.
	I want him on about how he thinks we stop this.
	I want to get his take on how you think the fight's going.
	Bill Gates is this reviled demon.
	Almost everyone I know, black, white, old, young, liberal, conservative, understands COVID's a hoax.
	It's now out in the open.
	They want forced microchipping.
	Major universities from Europe to the United States are saying, this semester, starting, You're going to have a cell phone with an app on it.
	You can't leave the grounds for the semester.
	If you do, you're expelled.
	Only certain shops will take your money.
	I mean, it's here.
	Everything they built has now been launched.
	It's like Hitler built up for World War II for five years, but one day he finally launched the war.
	And so the dam has broken.
	The enemy has emerged. As David said a few months ago on the show, they've gone from denying it To selling it.
	And so I just want to give him the floor to cover all those questions where he wants to start for the next hour and 20 minutes.
	David Icke, thank you so much for coming on with us.
	And it's a real pleasure to be fighting right alongside you against this anti-human force.
	Yeah, ditto, Alex.
	And you know, the fact that this situation could be predicted tells people something very profound.
	Those that have been in denial all these decades where they've said to me, a few people can't control the world, it's not possible.
	Well, you've just seen it happen in a few months.
	And what the predictability of current events tells you is they're not random.
	You can't predict random events.
	They just happen. What you can do is predict long-planned events because they are long-planned to happen.
	And so we are now looking at a transformation of human society, which surely even the most naive cannot go on believing that this has happened in terms of its organization and its orchestration since some virus came to light in the early part of this year in the West.
	This is playing out as a script, as a seamless script based on psychological manipulation, not health, because it was sitting there waiting for the button to be pressed for a long, long time before.
	And all it was waiting for was the trigger, the excuse to play it out.
	And that is what we've seen.
	And, you know, when you look at the speed of transformation, In country after country, because it's globally coordinated.
	I've just come off a two-and-a-half-hour interview with people in Melbourne, Australia, and what's happening there is, you know, well, what's happening there is the precursor to what's planned in the Northern Hemisphere where we hit our winter.
	They're in their winter now, and that is outright full-blown fascism.
	But people look at the society as it's transformed, and they say, oh, my God, it's happened so quick.
	Yeah. But the speed of transformation of human society is equivalent exactly to the speed of human acquiescence to it.
	If that had been pushed back and we're not having it months ago, we wouldn't be where we are now.
	And you know, when you break down how a few can control vast numbers, it's a very simple structure.
	And while people may sit around moaning that it's going on and pointing out the evil people involved in it, and they should because they are, they also need to find a bloody mirror.
	Because we are, as a human race, completely responsible as well for what's happening for this reason.
	People say that a few can't control the world.
	Well, it's easy when this happens and I'll explain.
	If you think of a pyramid, and at the top of the pyramid is a tiny few people, what I call the cult.
	Some people call it the 1%.
	I call it the cult because it is.
	And then that cult in a circle...
	It imposes its agenda on the next level down, which acquiesces to it and pose it on the next level down.
	Now, very quickly as you come down from that pyramid peak, you start to meet levels in the human hierarchy, national and international, Exactly.
	They're falling like dominoes.
	And that's why when we go out and resist the park closures, they just stand down.
	The police agree. We hate this.
	It's wrong. Do what you want. But no one's pushing back.
	But when we do push down and push back, the dominoes falls.
	What you're saying is stop just acquiescing and repeating what comes down from the United Nations, from the globalists.
	Yeah, and when you follow this pyramid down, it's very simple.
	Each higher level acquiesces to the level above and imposes on the level below.
	So it's imposition, acquiescence, imposition, acquiescence, imposition, acquiescence, until you reach the body of the population, again, nationally and internationally.
	And if we, as a human race, then at our point in the pyramid, Acquiesce to that level of the pyramid that is imposing upon us, we complete a circuit.
	And that circuit It completes a sequence of imposition and acquiescence, which allows a tiny few at the top of the pyramid, which the vast majority of people in the pyramid have no idea exists, to impose its will on the entirety of the population.
	And without human acquiescence, none of this is possible.
	This cult and these authorities have no power.
	Let's not fall for that one.
	They have no power.
	The power that they use recycled back against us is the power we give to them.
	We had a few weeks ago, just down the coast from where I live, we had thousands of people hit the beaches because it was such a really hot period.
	And there were so many people on the beaches, social distancing, unsocial distancing was not possible.
	So the local authority in the area calls an emergency incident.
	Okay, you called an emergency incident.
	Oh, yeah, emergency incident.
	What's happening? Okay, so what are you going to do?
	Well, there's nothing we can do.
	We've got thousands of people on the beach, and they won't obey.
	They won't cooperate. Nothing we can do.
	So why can't we do that with masks?
	Why can't we do that with social distancing, which has nothing to do with health and everything to do with psychology?
	Stay there, David. You're on fire.
	This is the key to everything. And then let's ask the question.
	A lot of people say, oh, I'll wear my mask.
	So what? They don't get that once you complete the circuit, it's a test to then accept contact tracing, then accept the social distancing apps, then accept the implantable chip, then accept the forced inoculation, then accept all of it.
	That's what it's about, is breaking our will, the spider, the cult, exercising its will.
	How do we get people to turn their will on?
	With David Icke, straight ahead, stay with us.
	I'm looking at mainstream headlines out of Australia.
	Australian law allows forced vaccines or jail to prevent suspected disease.
	It goes on to say they're now announcing a new law under the UN, that's who they cite, to take children from parents that won't allow them to be tested for COVID-19.
	They're now beginning...
	To announce that universities will suspend students who leave a 4.5 mile COVID bubble who are being tracked by their phones, the equivalent of anklet braces.
	David Icke has a new powerful book out titled The Answer.
	Find it at Iconic.com, I-C-K-O-N-I-C.com or DavidIcke.com.
	But here we are.
	I mean, it's... We're told you cannot criticize the UN in Europe, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, China, the United States, Canada, Mexico.
	We're told officially the UN says there's no treatment for COVID-19.
	The UN says other medical doctors can't disagree.
	They're banned. So you wake up one day and you're under UN control.
	It's Fauci and Gates running the Wuhan lab.
	I agree with David Icke that it's basically not what's killing us, is what they say is the virus.
	The numbers are extremely low.
	They're putting the names of people that died of other things in that column.
	But there is something going on at the Wuhan lab, and I think it's something else they've got planned.
	Because Bill Gates has said on national TV that, oh, a bigger, more deadly one's coming.
	This is just a test. I think he's telling the truth there.
	He's gloating like a supervillain.
	They're telling us that, hey, we're testing you to see how you'll comply.
	And if we will comply, the real depopulation's coming.
	So I want to talk about how we awaken humans, how we stop acting like robots, one of your first books, how we start being ourselves and saying no and breaking that circuit of control.
	But first, big picture.
	How's the world doing in its resistance to the COVID situation?
	What do you think they're going to pull next?
	How do you think it's going for them?
	And why do they want...
	Well, the situation is that they have been hiding below the radar decade after decade after decade after decade.
	And we've been pointing out that they are operating below the radar.
	And I said a long, long time ago that there'll come a point when they will have to break the surface where we can see them and it will be very, very difficult to deny what's going on then because when you are manipulating transformations of society under the radar and you're trying to hide it, there comes a point where you have to break the surface because if you don't, you're not going to transform society as you want.
	And when you If you, like, enter the room where people can see you, you've got to move very, very quickly because the slower you move, once you've put yourself on public display, and my goodness me, they've done that since the turn of 2020, the more people are going to start to wake up and are going to see it because it's painfully obvious how everybody can't see it now.
	It's staggering. And therefore, you've got to try to get to that point of control before enough people have realized what's going on.
	This is why they're rushing the vaccine.
	I mean, I said when this whole thing started, the vaccine already exists.
	I'm not saying it was necessarily in, you know...
	No, you did say that eight months ago, but it turned out Bill Gates through subgroups did have a bunch of coronavirus bat vaccines ready and already done animal trials, at least four of them.
	So they actually did have it ready.
	I mean, it's crazy. Yeah, at the very least, they knew what was in it.
	And we're looking, you've mentioned some of the things, we're looking in this vaccine at things that transform not just DNA, but transform the whole genetic structure of the body.
	And of course, it's not going to be one vaccine.
	They've already said that now. It's going to be a flu-like every year or so.
	Gates talks about five a year for adults, two for children to change your DNA. So what he's really doing is he wants us all guinea pigs to test changing our DNA. That's really what this is.
	Yeah, and so the other part of this vaccine will be a sterilization agent.
	One of the things that I've been tracking over the years in my books is the absolutely collapsing sperm counts around the world.
	I quote in The Answer an article where it said that if sperm was an animal, they'd be talking about it moving into the area of extinction.
	Because they want to transform the body from the biological nature we have now into synthetic biology, a synthetic type body, which will not procreate.
	So they want to do two things.
	They want to transform the body into a new form, and they'll be de- Nanotechnology and the vaccine to nanobots, etc., self-replicating nanobots, which will be part of that process, which insiders have exposed over the years.
	But also they want to stop the procreation of what they have now.
	And this is where the transgender explosion comes in.
	This is why they are confusing the gender of the young, and indeed the very young, because it's confusing gender on the road to fusing gender and the no-gender human.
	So all these things are connected, and the Gates vaccine is massively involved in...
	By the way, none of this is your opinion.
	Carol Quigley... So many others did.
	If you look at the guy that wrote Brave New World, Aldous Huxley's brother, Julian Huxley, ran the UN operation, was the head transhumanist.
	He said back in the 30s, we're going to get rid of the sexes, but first we're going to confuse them with chemicals in the water.
	And so they've done it.
	They're doing it. Yeah, Julian Huxley was a eugenicist, of course.
	And Aldous Huxley...
	In Brave New World, written in the 1930s, was describing this very situation of the end of procreation, the end of parenthood.
	This is why parental power over their children is being deleted and deleted and deleted and handed to the schools and the states and the social services.
	It's because they're moving out of parents bringing children up.
	It's going to be the state bringing them up.
	And so he talked about World state hatcheries in which humans were decanted, not procreated in the normal way.
	And you know, this is the whole point.
	And a lot of people who are new to this will think, well, how did he know in the 1930s?
	Well, for the same reason that I knew decades ago, and you were talking about it a long, long time ago, and that George Orwell knew about it in the 1940s because there's two worlds.
	To understand is to understand the two worlds in the same reality.
	You've got the world that humans live in and you've got the world of the cult and the difference between the two overwhelmingly is the level of knowledge.
	So you have the world of human society where knowledge is strictly limited and strictly oppressed and suppressed.
	This is done through the school system, through the media, etc.
	And you keep people on what I call the postage stamp, the postage stamp consensus of very narrow understanding of everything because it's there systematically.
	But then you've got this other world Where the knowledge is vastly more advanced because it's passed over through the upper levels of the secret society network to keep it out of public circulation.
	And this other world not only has a much wider understanding of reality and the nature of reality and how we interact with it, but it also has knowledge, obviously, of the projected agenda.
	And because of the level of knowledge that it operates with, it's projecting technology Which to the human world doesn't exist and is at one point sci-fi stuff.
	But it knows this stuff exists and how to create it.
	That's right. The future is here.
	It's not evenly distributed.
	And they're building this post-human railway, this post-human system while phasing us out.
	And now they've got to the point in the Wall Street Journal looking forward to the post-human future.
	And now they're admitting in NBC News that humans will soon be phased out.
	And that they're going to direct our evolution and that, hey, we're not really humans.
	We don't believe in aliens, but we believe we are becoming them.
	I mean, that's what they're saying. So something, this is heavy.
	But, you know, this is why this other world, if you can access it because either you're an insider or because you spend decades working your backside off uncovering it, you can predict the future because the future, unless there's An end to acquiescence so it can't become the future becomes the future.
	So predicting the agenda becomes predicting the future.
	And because of this level of knowledge in this other reality, this other world, this is why Huxley could talk about genetic changes and drug changes that didn't exist then.
	In the human world, that was, what?
	That's incredible. And it happened exactly as he said it would.
	Yeah, and this is why Orwell was able to talk about telescreens, which are now the first precursors of those, of course, are the smart TVs.
	And I've quoted people in my books from, for instance, 1969, where There's insiders who were describing the internet who were saying we're going to make boys and girls the same.
	Now, they know that because their knowledge base is vastly in advance of the human society.
	Incredible. Stay there, David.
	And we're going to come back in two minutes with the next hour.
	But they don't like the fact that you and I and many others were ahead of the curve.
	So now that it's all happening, we have credibility.
	How are they going to try to stop that?
	Well, with censorship, but that's not working.
	Everybody tell folks, tune in now.
	Well, every time David Ike comes on, and I've been interviewing him for 25 years or so, he just gets more eloquent, and he's a real blessing for the species.
	There's a five-minute segment, long segment coming up here in a moment.
	But David, we can break down the way society operates into different areas, but you have conquest government, you have renaissance government, and of course there's always a mix of those two.
	You have predatory government, you have altruistic government.
	But as you described, so many people in corporate life and business, they know it's all hierarchical.
	They just learn to do whatever they're told, so they're pushed up higher.
	But still, they're not their own person, and it builds stagnation, and we know it's an anti-human endgame that we're basically gestating, you know, this alien globalist force, and at one point we're to be destroyed, which we're now entering that phase.
	But so many men that are actually smart on the surface, they decide to serve it.
	They think we're dumb to even try to study what's really going on.
	I was lucky enough that my dad never got into the higher levels of this group, but he did get recruited in high school into it, and he told me about it when I was a kid and said he got out of it.
	He didn't get in the more fantastical realms of it, but he was dead on.
	And so I kind of had a jump on things.
	I guess you woke up working inside the BBC and other things and seeing the angle of what was happening.
	But the short segment we have here...
	I cannot describe to people the value of knowing how things really work in business or life or stocks.
	If I went to the stock market, I'm almost always winning.
	If I want to know how to step the outcome, and then it's like people that don't have the knowledge, they think it's foolish and laugh at us when we do, but they're not laughing now.
	So what happens as it becomes clear that humans that are aware of the real world Are going to be able to go into the future regardless of whether you join evil or not, and that the only future is finally studying this knowledge.
	What's going to happen? Because the censorship, I don't think, is going to be able to suppress it.
	Well, you know, I come from a different angle, Alex, to many people who look at this network, what I call the cult, as this powerful entity.
	I see it as a bunch of frightened little boys and girls in short trousers.
	And, you know, when you think, I'll give you an example of what I mean to support that.
	When you look at this cult, it's because of its control of money and its control of all the institutions of society.
	It controls the media and the information that people overwhelmingly receive.
	It controls the Silicon Valley giants and therefore, again, controls not only what people see but what people don't see.
	It controls the banking system.
	It controls governments.
	It controls corporations.
	And yet, it has to ban people like me and people like you Because it's frightened of what we're doing.
	And it's frightened of what we're doing because it can only survive, and its narrative, not least about this virus for goodness sake, what a crock of crap that is, it can only survive by protecting it from exposure.
	And the more that they censor, the more evidence you have of where the real power is.
	You know, all that control, and yet they have to take my videos down.
	They have to take my YouTube channel down.
	Oh, I totally agree with you that they're all about suppressing and controlling humans because we're more advanced to them.
	So it's basically like a Space Ghost episode where the centipede or the praying mantis creature is trying to figure out how to control American television and can't even figure it out.
	I mean, they've got the power, but they don't have any of the knowledge.
	Yeah, they have the control of the institutions, but they don't have the power.
	We have the power.
	And their narrative is so tenuous that if people were left to freely expose it, it would be over.
	So this is, again, where the power's coming from.
	They're not censoring Because it's a bit of fun.
	And they're not censoring to posture their power.
	They're censoring because they've got no choice.
	Oh, I agree. Because once they censored us, we only got bigger.
	And they're more scared.
	I mean, they're scared. I've been around globalists.
	They're scared. Stay there, Dave. We're back in 60 seconds.
	I want to ask you some questions you might not have ever been asked.
	And I know you're here to just educate the public.
	We really appreciate it. But I want to talk about your book, How People Get It.
	Because people really need to know the truth of what's going on.
	And David Icke is dead on the target.
	He's like Robin Hood where he splits his own era.
	And we're very, very honored to have him.
	DavidIcke.com. And you can find the new book, The Answer, there.
	I'm Alex Jones with NewsWars.com.
	And Band.Video.
	Only way those links get out is if you share them.
	Stay with us. Humanity has the power.
	We have the power.
	You have the power.
	David Icke is amazing.
	I love him. He's a trailblazer, a visionary, and he's been dead on Dead on.
	And here he is with his new book, The Answer.
	We've got him for another 50 minutes or so.
	We're very honored. The book came out today.
	DavidEyke.com. I'm Alex Jones, your host.
	David, let's look forward to the future like you did back in 1992-93 when you really started warning people and you got ridiculed and laughed at.
	But of course, didn't even care because you knew the truth.
	People ask how I take it. I know I'm right.
	And we're doing our own research.
	We come up with basically the same answers from different perspectives.
	And so is the general public.
	So as that quickening happens, the enemy's been forced to accelerate their plan.
	They've been forced to emerge.
	They're very scared. You can see that.
	We have the power. They know it's slipping out of their hands.
	What are they going to do to try to counter that?
	And how do you imagine or project?
	I know it's all up to us. But as a general in the pro-human fight, How do you project that fight going?
	And if we were able to defeat them quickly, how would their collapse look like the old Soviet Union but on steroids?
	How would this blossoming and this explosion of knowledge and of honor and justice and freedom and not the evil programs that they inject into us of backstabbing and racism and fighting and mindlessness, what would that super renaissance look like?
	Well, Human consciousness, individually and collectively, is human society.
	So if you look at human society now, it's a reflection of human consciousness.
	And when human consciousness changes, in other words, human perception changes, then the world will change to express, project that change of perception.
	So if you are When you're frightened of authority and you acquiesce to authority, then you are going to live in a world of control because it's a projection of your perception.
	When you can break those bonds, and the bonds are Are almost not imposed upon us so much as we impose them on ourselves, right?
	I've not worn a mask.
	They can stick that where the sun don't shine.
	I've not rubbed a sanitizer on my hands and poisoned me bloody self.
	I've not got involved in their track and trace.
	I never will do any of it.
	And therefore, I'm not acquiescing to them.
	I'm living my life as I've always lived my life.
	And everyone could do that and together we'd be unstoppable.
	What they're trying to impose upon us would be unenforceable.
	I mean, how do you enforce masks on everybody?
	There's not enough police officers for a start and you can't do it.
	You do it because people overwhelmingly acquiesce and then the next thing Is they not only acquiesce, they insist that everyone else does, the old Stasi system in East Germany.
	And so this is human consciousness today.
	We went under lockdown because Vast numbers of people believe the rubbish that they were told.
	Therefore, I've got to go under lockdown.
	That's my perception because I'm in danger.
	And it's all been proven to be a lie.
	And then Fauci says, trust the science when everything he told us was completely fraudulent.
	He couldn't spell science.
	And so the other group of people that went under lockdown and acquiesced were those that, well, there's something not right here.
	But their perception was, what's the consequences for me of doing anything about it and standing up to it?
	So those two perceptual groups went into lockdown.
	So we went into lockdown.
	The perception became the reality, became the experience.
	Now we can reverse that.
	And we reverse it by ceasing to acquiesce and ceasing to do what we're told.
	You see, you can listen to government, you can listen to authority, and they tell you, you know, you need to do this, and you're like, okay, and you can go, okay, so tell me why, right?
	And, okay, I hear that.
	I'm going to do a bit of research.
	And sometimes you might say, well, do you know, yeah, I agree with that.
	I'm going to do that because it makes sense to me.
	I'm making the decision.
	But when you are acquiescing by reflex action, just because some prat in a dark suit tells you to, That is subjugation.
	And that's what leads to the few controlling the many.
	That's right. And a lot of people think if they buck something, they're being uppity, they're causing a stir.
	No, we need to start saying no.
	When they said all the parks are closed in Austin and people were acquiescing, I went down there.
	Then they said, oh, sign up for COVID tracing at a huge giant parks that are as big as a national park.
	And we just marched in there, got in the face of the people, and the police said, yeah, there's no law.
	You can't have hired bureaucrats blocking people to a park.
	So they had to open it back up.
	And it's just that people just have to push back.
	That's all it is.
	You know, we don't have to fight the enemy.
	We don't have to even protest, though people can if they want.
	All we need is the power of, no, I'm not doing it.
	And you cumulatively have people saying, no, I'm not doing it.
	Oh, we've had a discussion.
	Oh, we're going to do this. We're not doing it.
	We're not doing it.
	So where's your power now?
	What, you haven't got any?
	Your power was always in us saying, well, I don't like it, but I've got to do it because they've told you.
	It's the law. It's the law.
	Well, if the law's a load of old crap and designed specifically to enslave you, your kids and your grandkids, what are we doing acquiescing to it?
	This is the change of perception.
	No, I know you're trying to get people to shift their perception.
	I'm asking you, though, how's it going for the evil spider?
	And what do you expect?
	What would it look like? How do you see the enemy falling?
	I get it. We wake up, we say no, and then this group becomes irrelevant.
	They all go to prison. I mean, already these blood-drinking, devil-worshipping child molesters are everything you said 30 years ago is coming out.
	Everything I said 26 years ago is coming out.
	I mean, it doesn't look like things are going too well for them.
	Well, fortunately, fortunately for us, they have an unsellable frontman in Bill Gates.
	I mean, you know, I mean, people with their eyes closed.
	Which shows it's not a human agenda because it never, it doesn't even have human instincts.
	I mean, who would come up with Bill Gates as the frontman?
	I mean, it's extraordinary, and it's a great thing, because he's unsellable.
	I mean, he's got I am frickin' evil stamped on his forehead.
	So he's a really hard sell, and that's a good thing, because they can't disconnect Gates from the vaccine now, which is excellent from a pushback point of view.
	It is. But what they will be seeking to do, and it will be in the script, Because they're terrified, you see, they're terrified of this gathering momentum.
	This is where all the bans on gatherings of people beyond a handful comes from.
	They're terrified of pushback.
	What they've done in this country is introduce fines for not wearing a mask in the situations that they've decreed of up to £3,200, which is a lot of money for people.
	And they've done that because they're terrified of the momentum of people saying, ain't doing it.
	But still people are refusing, and then the judges are refusing to enforce it.
	Yeah, and so what they're going to try to do will be in the script.
	Is to get control of as many fundamental necessities to life as they can.
	So obviously they're going to create food shortages.
	They're going to get control of the electricity grids.
	And obviously they've got control of the internet from an on-off point of view.
	So they're going to try. And by the way, in blue states everywhere, they're now doing rolling blackouts on purpose, just like you said.
	Yeah, so it's the necessities of life they want to control.
	Because everything they are doing is to stop this momentum of non-acquiescence.
	Because that's the end of it. Finished.
	Kaput. All over. Thank you.
	See you later. Once that happens.
	And so it's like, you do that, but you won't get this.
	You do that, you won't get this.
	And you're right. This is their big assault, their global tracking grid, their social credit score, their forced inoculation.
	If this fails...
	Then what do they do? This could be the end of the New World Order.
	Well, yes, it could because they've made it.
	If you use the analogy of a long-distance race, they've been in the pack, hiding in the pack, moving this thing forward.
	And now, in 2020, they've made their run for hope.
	And you see when...
	When people make the run for home in an athletics race, they have to stay in front and have to get across the line.
	Because once they get caught, they start going back into the package.
	A lot of times they stumble and fall on their face.
	Powerful allegory with David Icke.
	Stay there, David. We'll come back and start at that point.
	David Icke is here with us, ladies and gentlemen.
	And it's just surreal that To see every major publication say the Earth will be better without humans.
	We must give up our bodies.
	Families are bad.
	We can't have single-person homes or family homes.
	All of this is beyond Orwellian, and it's the agenda.
	And I know, David, you want to get into what's technically happening and who the globalists are, but getting back to your earlier work about this being non-human, You got attacked for that 30 years ago.
	Clearly this whole agenda is anti-human.
	They say their job is to get rid of humans.
	The goal is a post-human world.
	Now they say they want to override all the genetics of the planet and totally change it.
	It is by definition alien.
	The genetic engineering, they're creating new life forms that never existed before.
	So what is this?
	What is the endgame? I know you say we're all energy, but what are they?
	What are they? Why do they want the blood of children?
	Why do they want to torture people?
	Why do they love ugliness?
	Who are they? Well, if we had another two hours, I'd love to talk about this because, you know, I've been talking in the books for decades and decades about the fact that the force ultimately behind this is non-human and that the network, the cult that I call it in human society, which people like Gates and Soros, et cetera, are our assets.
	They are the manipulators within human society on behalf of this non-human force.
	In fact, the non-human force controls them.
	And when you look at ancient writings in ancient cultures, there's a real common theme, and it absolutely fits what I've been talking about all these years.
	And that is, you know, we can perceive life as form.
	I have a human body, and there's another body, and another body, and an alien body.
	But ultimately, what's animating that form, what's using that form as a vehicle to experience, is consciousness.
	Imagine a balanced, harmonious level of consciousness, which people call love and other balanced emotions.
	Now imagine the absolute antipathy of that, an inverted, imbalanced, distorted state of consciousness.
	That is what this non-human force ultimately is, and it possesses this cult.
	And this is why the bloodlines are all part of this possession network, because their genetics are It makes them more open to this possession.
	And so what you're looking at is this imbalanced, deeply disturbed state of consciousness driving this cult.
	That's why they do what they do.
	This is where psychopathy comes from.
	Psychopaths, which is what all these people are, super psychopaths with people like Gates and Soros, These psychopaths are an expression of this, what I've been calling for years, this mind virus.
	And what they're trying to do is to assimilate the rest of humanity into this mind virus state of consciousness.
	And it shuts them down.
	It isolates them in the five senses.
	What I found fascinating, Alex, in the last couple of weeks is I've been reading a lot of stuff On the Native American concept, one of the names for it is Wetiko.
	And what they're describing is exactly what I've been writing about for years and I'm talking about now.
	It's a mind virus.
	And you see this in all the ancient cultures.
	And what the Native Americans say about- Sure, they had people that would go crazy and start trying to kill kids, drink blood, and just go psycho for no reason.
	This is the possession of this wetico mind virus.
	When I say virus, I don't mean physical virus, I mean like a computer virus.
	That's how it works. Because you see, if you take the analogy of a computer, and you take that to be the five sense conscious mind of humans, And then you take the guy on the keyboard and the mouse to be expanded states of consciousness.
	Those two things should be interacting.
	That's our natural state.
	But what happens when the computer gets a virus?
	You're banging the keyboard, you're banging the mouse, and nothing's happening, because now the virus has taken over literally the perceptual information processing systems of the computer, and it's going where the virus tells it.
	So all hell's breaking loose. That's right.
	Everything they do is about forcing us into a false reality.
	Yeah, and so the more that they can bring us into fear and imbalanced, low vibrational states of emotion, like anxiety and anger and hatred and all these things, the more they are basically attaching this mind virus frequency to us.
	And one of the interesting things, you'll certainly recognize this, so will people watching this show, The Native American concept talks about this wetiko being a mind blindness, which operates out of the subconscious.
	That's what it hides in the subconscious.
	And of course, the cult in all its forms, its target is the human subconscious.
	Because if they can put perceptual programs in the subconscious, they'll filter through to the conscious mind.
	And the person will think they're their own thoughts, opinions, and beliefs.
	You know, kind of insights when actually they've been put into the subconscious.
	So this Wotico virus operates in the subconscious.
	And once the conscious mind becomes aware of it, it loses its power.
	This is why, you know, when you can have an image and you can have a subliminal insert into it, and that insert will talk to your subconscious.
	But once it's pointed out, there's that subliminal insert.
	The conscious mind's aware of it.
	That's the first thing you see when you look at the image from then on is the insert.
	It's been made conscious.
	It's lost its power over you.
	That's the spell losing its power.
	So how do we get people out of the spell?
	So what the Native American concept of this mind blindness is, is that it tricks the conscious mind into a state of mind blindness, in other words, not knowing the hell what's going on, but it thinks it has.
	And what we're seeing all the time I'm seeing all the time anyway, is people who actually consciously believe they've looked at what's happening and they've come to their own conclusions and they've worked out what this virus thing is all about.
	And what comes out of their mouth It's the official narrative, word for word.
	In other words, they're blind to what's going on, but they think they're not.
	Exactly. They always dial in to the stated talking point, but they think it's their own, but they word for word say it because they become nothing but, like you said, a repeater because it's like an electrical charge.
	They've just completed the circuit.
	Yeah, this is what this bubble is.
	They try to put people in a bubble of perception, what I call the five-sense bubble.
	And people think they're thinking...
	By the way, the universities in the UK and the US are calling it a COVID safety bubble where you're not allowed to leave for the semester.
	Have you seen this? It's kind of funny.
	I use the concept or the symbol of the bubble in the answer when I'm talking about how we're, you know, people are isolated in the bubble.
	And I wrote all that. 85% of that book was written before this stuff kicked in.
	And then what played out was what was in the first 85% of the book played out in human society.
	And then they brought in this bubble concept, which I thought was extremely synchronistic because that's what they want us to put us in, this bubble.
	But if we stop self-identifying with being...
	We've got to go to break again, but yeah, putting the kids in bubbles, rock concerts in bubbles, at restaurants in cages, it's a mental image.
	You're bad, you're dirty. We've got to keep you locked up.
	Stay there, David. David Icke is on fire, on fire as usual.
	I'm Alex Jones, newswars.com.
	Spread that link. The bell is tolling.
	Humanity is at the crossroads.
	We're going to win.
	But it's going to be rough.
	I remember David Icke back in like 2005 on my show.
	He was saying, I think around 2016 will be a giant awakening.
	But then by 2020, the real fight will come.
	And if humanity can make it through that in the next 5-10 years, I think there's going to be a real, I mean, amazing time after that.
	But it's really up to us. I remember saying, well, why do I come up with these numbers?
	And he said, well, I do a lot of research, but also I'm just hooked into the universe.
	Well, that all played out exactly, as he said.
	Not just here, but around the world. The big move against globalism.
	The big awakening. They counter-strike.
	Go back to that, David.
	Come on. I've answered this question before, and you won't answer it.
	Go back to the moment.
	You're on my show.
	You said it a bunch of other places, too.
	And you just said, I just envisioned 2016, the global awakening.
	The tide begins to turn, but then the enemy by 2020 comes back in.
	It's going to be a big fight, but we're going to win.
	Go back to that thought process.
	Well, if you go back to when I started 30 years ago, I mean, you couldn't fill a phone box with interest in this stuff.
	But as the years have unfolded, what's happened is people's experience and people's view of the world and lots of other things that are going on have started to break down this, if you like, this bubble.
	And people have started to see and look at the world in a different way.
	And, you know, you've seen a difference.
	I've seen a staggering difference in the last few years.
	And now they tell us openly, you're only safe in the bubble.
	Please continue. It's not just the numbers of people that are waking up.
	It's the type of people, system people are starting to wake up from within the system and realize what they've been part of.
	Oh, that's key. In fact, I wanted to ask you this when I was trying to get you on a week ago, but you couldn't.
	Bill Gates was on with Anderson Cooper.
	I'm sure you saw it about a month ago.
	And they go, yeah, millions of people an hour are saying bad things about Bill Gates.
	And they go, and it's not the normal types.
	You know the ones, talking about us.
	It's like regular people.
	It's people in the system.
	So what you just said is they're hitting the panic button.
	Which is an expression of what I'm talking about.
	I know from people who've contacted me, the kind of people that are waking up now are really in the system.
	And they've reached the point where they can't just ignore what they're seeing around them anymore.
	We've seen that with doctors coming out.
	During this pandemic hoax.
	But what has happened in this period is a lot of people have fallen for fear, yes, and acquiescence.
	But it's got so many people off the fence because it's very difficult if you have a smear of intelligence on active duty to look at the world and what's happened and not realize that actually the world is not like you thought it was.
	And this is one of the great The benefits of speaking out about what was coming at a time when it was extremely unpopular and all you got was ridicule and abuse, basically, because now that the fruits of that are coming to bear, because people saying, well, If they said it was going to come and it's come, it can't be random.
	Therefore, what's going on, what's behind it?
	And so we're in a point now, a fork in the road, where we are choosing which way we're going.
	And acquiescence will just take us where this has been heading all along.
	And there's a nightmare down that road.
	But non-acquiescence can bring an end to this very, very quickly because it's completely dependent on that acquiescence.
	And what we need, ladies and gentlemen, is to move people From that, I can see it now, symbolically you're on the other side of the street, I can see what's coming next, to cross the street and engage with it, or even more powerfully, to disengage with it, the power of no.
	The power of no will bring this down, because the power of acquiescence has built it up.
	Our power is being used both ways.
	And by the way, I agree with you.
	Finish that point, but I agree with you.
	This shows how weak they are.
	They're throwing everything at us.
	I can see their body language.
	They are in panic, crazy mode, and our people never look better, never look stronger.
	We're glowing, and it looks like they're diminishing.
	Yeah, because they're dependent on us, and when we stop cooperating with them, they're finished.
	They have no power. And all that's happened in the last few months has simply been through acquiescence of the target population.
	No one would be wearing masks now if people chose to not wear masks.
	There would be no social distancing, unsocial distancing, if people hadn't acquiesced to it.
	There'd be none of this stuff.
	It's human acquiescence that's created it, which is great news in a way because it means we have the power to uncreate it.
	Look at where this is going.
	Look how far we've come.
	In a few months.
	And then project that forward if we go on acquiescing to where that's going to be by the end of the year.
	That's my question. You talked about the southern hemisphere.
	They are choking women on TV on purpose.
	They're arresting women wearing masks on purpose.
	They're beating people up.
	They're getting forced inoculations ready.
	They're saying, we're going to take your children.
	And the UN says it's the model.
	I mean, this is...
	What is wrong with Australia?
	I guess never got to be in a prison colony.
	What the hell is going on here?
	They're in their winter now.
	And what you're seeing in Melbourne and Victoria under this fascist, there's no other way of describing him, Daniel Andrews, the Premier, is what is planned for the winter in the Northern Hemisphere.
	And so Australia today, just like China yesterday will be the West today, as I said, Australia today, Victoria today is planned to be the West tomorrow.
	So how much more are we going to take, ladies and gentlemen?
	And by the way, with Matthew McConaughey the other day, I'm sure you saw it, Fauci said, we need to do what China says.
	They're the model. How outrageous is that?
	Yeah, well, that's the whole point.
	See, because this cult has no borders, and one of its great global centers is China.
	It's no accident this thing came out of China.
	This whole hoax came out of China.
	Because what they've been doing, this cult was behind the Mao revolution.
	And it has used China behind the wall of that tyranny as an incubator of the global model for total human control.
	So it's come out of China, very symbolically and appropriately, this pandemic hoax.
	And the crucial element of it Was to make China's draconian lockdown the blueprint for the West response to it.
	This is why immediately it started in China.
	Ted Ross, the deeply, deeply corrupt director general of the World Health Organization, when he speaks, it's, or moves his mouth, it's Gates speaking.
	When Gates speaks, it's The cult speaking.
	He came out and said, China is the way to deal with this.
	And so when it came to the West, the Chinese model, which was the cult model, was imposed on the West.
	And what has happened since then, Alex?
	The Chinese model of human control has been transferred massively into the West.
	And so if you want to see What they want the world to be tomorrow, it's what's happening in China today, and they ain't finished in China in terms of extremes yet either.
	So when are you going to do that?
	When are you going to react to this?
	When are you going to say no? You know, when we're full-blown China, how about then?
	It would be a bit more difficult then, wouldn't it?
	We need to draw the line now, use the power of no, use the power of collective unity in not standing for it and not having it.
	And yes, there'll be challenges.
	Yes, there'll be some consequences.
	But as the numbers increase, There will be no consequences.
	There were no consequences for the thousands of people on the beaches when they declared a major incident.
	There's too many people. We have the power, and their absolute terror is for that penny to drop.
	All right, final segment with David Icke straight ahead, the new book, The Answer, at davideike.com.
	I mean, I know that it's linked on the site.
	Where's the best place to go to find the new book?
	Yeah, go to davideike.com.
	All right, just came out in the last few days, The Answer.
	Great cover, great information.
	Can't wait to read the whole thing.
	We'll be back, and I've got a bunch of my questions.
	It's about the general world, the so-called Council of 13.
	I mean, how many are really in control?
	Because people now are ready to awaken.
	I know a lot of this is old news to David Icke, but what's old is new.
	We'll be right back. Don't forget, the only way this interview gets out on the radio stations you're listening to or the TV stations is to tell people to tune in, and once it's archived at band.video, to share it.
	That's how we win the war.
	Oh, it's getting near.
	David Igg's here. One more segment.
	One of the most important, informative people on the planet Earth.
	And we're just so blessed to have him.
	If he hadn't been there, we would not be in the position we're in now.
	We're getting to win. It's not an arm wrestling contest.
	We're starting to push him down.
	But we can't... I think that we have victory yet, and humans have our own problems.
	But when you come to the realization that every ancient culture was right, there is an evil, anti-human force in control.
	You know, you have been at the BBC, top TV show, big soccer champion, all that before.
	You began to see what was going on.
	It awakened you, but then you had a vision in Peru.
	You know, I've had moments of great clarity and understanding where you just suddenly beamed all this information.
	I haven't really gotten into that on air, but that's happened after I woke up later.
	So you don't like to talk about the enemy itself and what they do, but you pioneered exposing the pedophilia, the satanism, the adrenochrome.
	But you talk about the program public following orders because they're compartmentalized and manipulated.
	But there is a large group That serves this evil force because they're into the demonic spirit.
	They're into this hateful force.
	And I never joined it.
	I was never in it, but I've been around it growing up in a very rich area, Dallas.
	And then later I saw things like eyes wide shut and things and met folks that actually been involved in real stuff like that in Hollywood, very high level.
	And so there is that level as well of people that serve it, not out of ignorance, but because they like that force and that energy.
	And what can you say about that and how people need to wake up and realize that exists?
	Well, we go back to this mind virus, which is actually the consciousness that is totally controlling these people.
	And because this...
	This consciousness is in such an inverted, distorted state.
	It cannot draw energy sustenance like others can from a balanced state of energy.
	Because they're on completely different frequencies.
	So to feed itself, to give itself power, to give itself energetic sustenance, it has to feed off energy coming off people that is within its same distorted state.
	So that's why in every culture they have to scare people and torture children to death to get that energy.
	Well, yeah, because what they do is when they put people through these horrific rituals, they're putting them into states of extreme fear, extreme terror, which is what?
	It's an extremely imbalanced, distorted state of being.
	And they feel...
	You go far enough back and they openly sacrifice people to the gods.
	And they sacrificed young virgins to the gods.
	Well, what was that code for?
	It was code for children. So they were doing it openly then.
	And then as humanity grew up and matured a bit, it was no longer acceptable.
	So it went underground.
	It's still going on today.
	All the Epstein stuff, and it's all connected into it.
	And so these sacrifices to the gods, these entities or ultimately this state of consciousness is feeding off this low vibrational emotion of fear and terror and anxiety.
	So if you have a war or you have this virus pandemic scam which terrifies people, You're creating an energetic banquet for this consciousness, which is empowering it.
	They want people, the whole structure of society and manipulation is to put the population in these low vibrational states of emotion so that they are producing the energy, the frequencies that they can absorb.
	This is why when Morpheus in the Matrix held up the battery and said the machines have turned humans into one of these, He was describing in that movie a profound truth of what's actually going on.
	So the more we don't fall into fear, the more we come from here and don't fall into these low vibrational emotions, not least fear, which is the foundation of it.
	We cease to feed the beast.
	The more that we fall into hatred and conflict, this is why they want people fighting.
	No, no, I agree. So when you were at the BBC at a time that they were sacrificing kids and slitting throats, you didn't see all that, but you heard about it, you said it, years later it was confirmed with the very people you said.
	Did you ever see what I've seen?
	They do it on TV, but I saw it some growing up in Dallas with real Satanists when they make that Satanic Joker face and a human can't copy it.
	Only the demon shining through can when you look at the Colbert faces or the faces made by AOC or the faces made by Hillary when she's all sharking out or Newsom makes them but not completely.
	They make this demon face.
	Have you ever seen that in person?
	Well, I've seen many faces do many strange things, and the key word that describes them in totality is distortion.
	Their faces distort in many and various ways.
	And you look at, like, the exorcist-type movie Possession.
	I'm just telling you, Colbert's a devil-worshipper.
	That's hardcore stuff right there.
	That's what a kid sees when they're getting killed.
	Yeah, but because this consciousness is actually possessing these people, they're just vehicles for it.
	People like Gates and all these other people, they're vehicles for this wetical consciousness distortion, which we call evil.
	That's what evil is.
	Evil is this distortion.
	It's the distortion of the balance of love.
	And look at them. They're all getting high off of it.
	They just run around like crazy people when they're doing it.
	In my definition, evil is the absence of love.
	And you've only got to look at this cult and how it works and its personnel.
	They are the absence of love.
	And when you go into the biblical concepts of good and evil and, you know, all over the world, every culture, every religion has the same thing.
	This is what they're talking about in their different ways and their different symbolisms and their different ways of expressing it, their different names.
	They're describing this very distorted state of consciousness, which is driving and And possessing these people that I call the cult, that have been manipulating to create a world that expresses their distortion, And on the other side, you've got this balanced state of emotion and balanced state of awareness that we call love and harmony and balance, etc.
	And these have been the two forces right the way through no new...
	And that's why they're trying to openly imbalance things.
	Big Mike, Michelle Obama came out and said, you know, you better vote for us or we'll destroy everything.
	Imbalance and chaos in society is exactly what they're trying to create.
	When I study this mind virus, this distorted state of consciousness, I see it in Antifa, I see it in riots, and I see it often in people fighting the people who are within Antifa.
	Basically, you have two groups again and again.
	It's like a chemistry event that they're clashing us together.
	Yeah, wars all over the place are basically different expressions of this mind virus at war with each other because it's creating the chaos.
	And that's what I've noticed. People I know that have been doing good work, they get hit by the mind virus, and all they want to do is fight, and they make stuff up to fight about instead of just having real order that comes from that pure, balanced state.
	Yeah, and so if we want a world of harmony, then we have to be harmonious.
	We want a word of love. We have to be loving.
	We want a word of peace. We have to be peaceful.
	I know you've got to go, but do five more minutes.
	We've got a few minutes here of the new book, TheAnswerDavidIke.com.
	But the globalists say they're for the environment.
	They're the ones killing it. They say they want harmony.
	They're the ones fighting it. So it's important to explain.
	They claim to be doing all the things we really need to do, but they're not.
	Yeah, look at that, Alex.
	This state of consciousness that's possessing them, this witiko mind virus, shall we call it, is an inversion of love.
	It's an inversion of balance.
	And so everything they do, look at it, in society, you've just described some of them, everything is an inversion.
	This is why, if you want to know the truth...
	That's right. In fact, they can't do something that's only half an inversion.
	They only have inversion or not.
	Yeah, they invert everything.
	So... If you want to know the truth in the society we live in, then basically invert what the authorities are telling you, and you'll get very much more closer to the truth than what they're telling you.
	Because they invert everything.
	This is why they work with unbelievable levels of mendacity.
	I mean, if they ever told the truth, they genetically implode from the shock.
	It's because it's an imbalance, it's an inversion of balance and love and harmony that is animating them.
	So they're going to express that out As the same inversion in everything they do.
	I mean, look at the inversion of Gates.
	Gates is saying we have to do this for the health of the population.
	Inversion! He's doing it to destroy the health of the population.
	And this is the mind virus.
	And I see it in the eyes of Gates all the time.
	He's totally possessed by it.
	Do five more and we'll let you get out of here.
	You got to come back sooner in these critical times.
	It's just such a quickening. DavidIke.com, we're so blessed to have.
	I want him to get into the election and what he thinks of Donald Trump.
	I respect his opinion. We'll get it, then he'll be gone.
	And then John Rappaport takes over.
	Stay with us. A lot of people think that the globalists control everything.
	So they think I'm controlled or David's controlled.
	I can tell you I'm not. I can tell you David's not.
	They hate us. Actually, we have the power.
	But then people go, well, what about Trump?
	And, you know, I gotta say, it seems like he's doing a lot of good things.
	They seem to really hate him in a lot of levels.
	But there's a lot of big things going on behind the scenes.
	So I don't know David Icke's overall view on Trump.
	I mean, I thought a lot of his work, but haven't heard him really drill into it.
	I mean, I know you're not, you know, the all-knowing consciousness, but I mean, what's your honest view on Donald Trump and this election we see happening right now with the powers that be really, it looks like, going after him?
	Well, you know, I think...
	Wherever you look in politics, in any country, you're looking at the least worst choice rather than the best choice.
	Wherever you look, all over the world.
	And, you know, there are manipulations of people that they don't know what's going on.
	And I'm not saying that Trump knew this, he may have done, but he didn't have to know this.
	But my view from the start, back in 2016, Was that Trump has been brought to power to divide America.
	And I'll tell you what I mean by that.
	When you read the techniques of transforming societies into communistic Marxist tyrannies, one of the themes is, and this guy, what's his name, Alinsky in Chicago.
	Saul Alinsky. Yeah.
	He wrote this book, Rules for Radicals.
	And in part of that, he said, look, if you're going to transform society by creating division, don't target faceless bureaucrats and faceless corporations.
	Pick one person And hurl all your hatred and all your blame for everything that's wrong on him or her.
	And I think that's why they brought Trump through, to be that person.
	Because at the same time that they brought Trump in The globalists, the 1%, the billionaires and the billionaire corporations were absolutely funding to vast amounts of money the emergence of the woke mentality, which is completely taken over. The AOCs, very astute.
	Damon, you're a genius. You just crystallized all of it.
	It's not that Trump's bad.
	He was, at first Hillary wanted him because she thought she could beat him, but then when he got in, they said, screw it, this will give rise to our communist overthrow.
	It may actually backfire on him, but that's why they put in the horrible leftist versus Trump, was they believed to divide and conquer and then energize their base, and that is the alchemy.
	But just like they thought Bill Gates would be a good spokesperson, I believe is blowing up in their face.
	Yeah, well, this is what they wanted.
	They wanted to divide America down the middle.
	And, you know, they've done it.
	Basically, so much of political debate in America is do you love Trump or hate Trump?
	Exactly. So what do they do next?
	Well, there's obviously a point, it could well be in November, that they want a full-blown woke government coming in.
	Because the woke is the 1%.
	Black Lives Matter is a 1% funded and created organization to divide and rule America on the grounds of race.
	And I'm very, very encouraged at how many black people I've seen who've sussed it and realized that it's all a scam and all a con.
	So they want to divide and rule people, and they also want to bring in ultimately, whether it's November or absolutely the next time, It's a full-blown woke government where all the extremes of woke, censorship, control, no borders, all this stuff, all comes in.
	And that will be the end of America.
	A new French Revolution. I agree.
	They let Trump get in because people really elected him to try to trigger a French Revolution event.
	But I believe it's going to blow up in their face.
	Well, they have just created...
	I mean, when I talked a few minutes ago, it's usually, you know, what's the least worst choice?
	Well, what they've come up with in terms of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris is the nightmare ticket.
	Because you've got Biden, who is vacuous.
	He's evacuous anyway.
	But he's vacuous, and then some now, because he's clearly increasing ever more evidential cognitive problems.
	David Icke, you've got to finish this thought.
	It's the final countdown. 60-second break.
	I promise you'll be gone in two minutes after that.
	Finish your point. Handicapping the 2016, now 2020 election with David Icke of DavidIcke.com.
	Stay with us. David Icke was just getting into President Trump.
	And the archetypal clash of sides, but just like the Illuminists are trying to force-feed Gates, they're missing that human touch to understand what works and what doesn't.
	And so, bringing in the squad, having Trump on the other side, Trump isn't consciously part of that, but they believe they're going to bring in this communist revolution out of the hate of Trump that they could manifest that, but I see it miserably failing, or if they do come to power through fraud, it is going to engulf the nation in civil war.
	So, David, you were very eloquently walking us through that.
	Please finish up, and thanks for staying over with us.
	Yeah, no problem. I was saying that you've got this nightmare ticket of Joe Biden, who has a career of being vacuous.
	He's never had an original thought in his life.
	But now, with his increasingly extreme cognitive problems, he's seriously vacuous.
	He's an empty shell. And then you've got Kamala Harris, and she's an empty shell and completely vacuous without any cognitive problems necessary.
	She will just tell you whatever you want to hear, and then she'll tell you someone else what they want to hear, which is totally different.
	She has no moral base of integrity.
	And what you've got is two empty shells who will simply be the vehicles for that in the background to absolutely take over everything in the American government and will have a full, woke, anything-goes Extreme of extreme government.
	And that will be the end of America.
	That will be the end of America.
	And you're right. If that came in and started doing that, then there would have to be pushback from people that were resisting that.
	And then you've got your civil war conflict.
	In terms of Trump, Whatever he believes and how much he means it, he has a constituency of people he must keep on board to get elected.
	And therefore, he can't, even if he wanted to, I don't think he does, but even if he wanted to, he couldn't go full-blown woke in the same way because his constituency wouldn't allow it.
	What would happen in the second term when you'd have to get elected again?
	Well, we'd see that.
	So when I'm talking about The least worst situation, the worst situation by a million miles is Biden and Harris.
	Well, even Tim Pool, who's a very popular podcaster, who's a big liberal, he's endorsed Trump now saying the same thing.
	So, I mean...
	We're to the end of America.
	You see, I grew up, Alex, in the English Midlands, in a working-class council house, as we call them in Leicester.
	My brother still lives there, actually.
	And we came from the left.
	But it was the old left.
	It was the left that was challenging corporations, that was challenging what were then millionaires, now billionaires, that was demanding freedom of speech, that was demanding freedom of lifestyle.
	And what this 1% What Cabal has done is hijack the traditional left, the truly liberal left, which says, you know, do what you like so long as you don't impose on other people.
	And it's imposed this woke left, which is the fake left, and it's further to the right than everything they're calling right.
	I mean, this is tyranny, this woke mentality.
	And it's been developed by controlling the education system generation after generation.
	And it's now turning out Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as increasingly political leaders.
	It is the 1% made manifest.
	It's the 1% agenda made manifest.
	So is Black Lives Matter.
	Do Black Lives Matter? Of course.
	Do All Lives Matter? Of course.
	But the capital letter, Black Lives Matter, the organization, is a 1% creation and front to divide and rule us.
	And they admit it is. It's funded by the most evil...
	I saw a big national TV show just the other day said Alex Jones is an anti-Semite.
	He said this about George Soros, and I said George Soros is a Nazi collaborator.
	On 16 minutes he said it.
	So if you're a Nazi collaborator, you're good.
	If you're against Nazi collaborators, you're anti-Semitic.
	But I don't see the anti-Semitic trope working anymore.
	Yeah, no, but this is an interesting point.
	I talked about the traditional left, but the traditional left, we're talking about the Democratic Party, for instance, in America as it was.
	Anyone got a good memory?
	Remember who it was? It was pushing back against all these things that I was talking about, and it was pushing back against loss of freedom of speech, etc.
	And the elite were The enemy, if you like.
	What's now happened is the elite are in bed with the woke.
	And this has been brought about by replacing the dynamic.
	The dynamic of the old left was freedom and it was justice and the end of imposition on the many by the power of money and the power of capital of the few.
	So that was the dynamic.
	The dynamic has completely changed.
	WOKE is not pushing against that.
	It's been taken over by identity politics and all this nonsense.
	And so the dynamic now is that the elite, as long as it speaks the language of identity politics, as long as it funds the organizations of identity politics, They are now one of us.
	So the dynamics changed.
	That's right. They own the leadership.
	And so it's not about human rights anymore.
	They got rid of their biggest enemy, the true liberal, not the left.
	And so now these people literally are the elite with big tech censoring everyone and say they want to put us in FEMA camps.
	But they believe they're still the underdog and the resistance at the same time.
	Look at the woke.
	Same in this country.
	The woke mentality is pressing and agreeing with this virus hoax tyranny and everything.
	It's them that's saying, wear your mask and all this stuff.
	And the New York Times is, awaken!
	Kill the police! And the police aren't the establishment.
	They're the lowest level of...
	I mean, it's absolutely incredible.
	But if you want to destroy a society, then break down law and order and let the mob rule.
	This is what the whole woke, 1% controlled woke is all about.
	It's about letting the mob rule because they want...
	Where are we going with this again, Alex?
	They want the chaos.
	They want the upheaval.
	They want the distortion because that's an expression of Of their state of being.
	They want chaos and upheaval and distortion everywhere.
	And they don't want police, but they want the police to arrest you if you're not wearing your mask.
	Amazing. David Icke, best interview yet.
	The new book, DavidIcke.com, The Answer.
	I cannot wait to read the full book.
	I've already... Read some of the first chapters, and I've seen the amazing video that your people put together.
	The best thing, I mean, it's amazing that first chapter that you guys made as a little visual book.
	Thank you so much for the time, and please, please come back with us very, very soon, my friend.
	No problem. Thanks, Alex. See you soon.
	Thank you. Powerful two-plus hours, or an hour and 40 minutes or so.
	With David Icke. Too bad we've got to go.
	But hey, we've got a powerful guest.
	In fact, David Icke said during the break when he heard that John Rappaport's coming up to say hi to John.
	He loves John's work.
	John's interviewed him many times.
	So hell, sometimes if John wants to host a show, he can have David Icke going on.
	So set it up, John. Anytime you want to have Icke on, I'll take off the day and do other work.
	I have working vacations.
	I've got a lot of stuff to do.
	And I seriously want to get it done.
	So anytime Rappaport wants to host a show, he can have David Icke on.
	All right. Thank you, David Icke. Amazing.
	We're going to go to break and John Rappaport is going to take over.
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