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June 29, 2020 - David Icke
01:27:40
David Icke Talks To This Strange Life Podcast - Bangkok - Full Interview
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So, let's get started.
Okay, welcome to this strange life.
This Strange Life podcast, Bangkok's number one podcast.
And we're very, very lucky indeed today to have an extremely special guest.
And we're all huge fans, Mr.
David Icke.
This is an absolute honour. Absolute honour.
Thank you so much for your time.
Well, that's very nice. But what's the show called?
The Strange Life? This strange life.
You couldn't have picked a better title for current events, could you?
The only better title is that we live in a bloody madhouse.
That would have been...
But this strange life is pretty accurate.
So you took the interview because you saw that and you said, yeah, I think that's the one to go with, right?
Because we're living in that kind of world right now.
Well, I took the interview. I could take everything else on intuition.
That's how I live my life, you know.
I don't go, well, shall I, shall I? Somebody goes, yeah, do that, do that, do that, do that.
And so that's how I do it.
Life is strange.
And what's the strangest thing happening today, David?
Well, you know, I've been...
Researching the true background to world events for 30 years.
If I hadn't come to terms with humanity's almost genetic obsession with acquiescence, the strangest thing that would have been is that more than 3 billion people Could have been locked down on the basis of a few people saying that they have to be.
On the say-so of people who've never seen a ballot box, because if you listen to the politicians worldwide, they keep saying this recurring theme.
We're being guided by the science, or we're being guided by the scientists.
Well, first of all, They're not being guided by the science because the science that they're giving out is nonsensical and very, very contradictory.
And the story's changed a few times.
And if you're being guided by the scientists, then a few questions need asking before you lock down three billion people.
What is the background to the scientists?
What connections do they have?
And how come that everyone's, virtually everyone, you know, Sweden, Japan, a couple of exceptions, but virtually everyone agrees on the same method of responding to this alleged pandemic.
So these are the kind of questions that not even awake people But any level of awareness will want to ask, okay, you want me to do this, okay, so explain why.
I'm not just going to do it because you say so, I want to know why.
But what happens, and this is how this whole thing came about, is that the world is controlled by a few people because of a very simple system of imposition and acquiescence.
And when you play this down, the pyramid, both global pyramid and national pyramids of hierarchies, you see the same recurring theme.
And because of this, this three billion under house arrest can be explained.
At the top of the pyramid, you've got a tiny few people that I've been exposing for three decades.
And I call them the cult because that's what they are.
Yeah. They have an agenda for the world and they dictate to the level below them part of the agenda.
In this case, we're locking down billions of people.
The level under them then acquiesce to that imposition and impose it on the next level, which acquiesces to them and impose it on the next level.
Now, very quickly, after you come down from that cult level, if you like, at the peak of the pyramid, You are hitting levels of the global and national hierarchies that have no idea there is a cult.
No idea. They're just doing what the level above them tells them.
How often do you hear this phrase?
Oh, I don't know, but it's come down from on high.
I suppose we better do it.
Same thing. So then you come down and it...
Lower and lower in these hierarchical pyramids, and it goes the same.
Imposition, acquiescence.
And then it brings us down to the mass of humanity.
Nearly 8 billion of us now.
And if we...
This is why, unfortunately, it's what most people do.
If we, at that level, acquiesce to that level of the pyramid that's imposing on us, then we complete a circuit.
And it's a circuit of acquiescence or imposition and acquiescence, which has allowed the few at the top, that almost no one knows exists, to impose its will on the entirety of humanity.
And, you know, over the decades, people have said to me again and again, look, mate.
A few people can't control the world, all right?
It's not possible.
It's too many people. Well, what's kind of positive about what's been happening, there is very little, but there is some, is that unless you're in complete concrete level denial, that's gone out the window.
Because a few just have dictated house arrest to billions of people.
And it's because We acquiesce without question.
So, for instance, if they say you've got to wear masks, everyone's got to wear masks.
Well, while the vast majority of people wear masks and cause themselves cumulatively very bad respiratory problems by not breathing in enough oxygen and by breathing in their own expelled carbon dioxide, which is great for plants, but not for us.
If the vast majority of people just say, OK, the government says, then they're going to pick off the few that say, no, I'm not doing it.
And I'm one of them. It's easy to control a populace, a society, through fear.
Yeah, exactly. It's been demonstrated recently that once you impose certain restrictions on a society through the idea of fear, it's very easy to keep those restrictions and not give them back.
And build on them. That's the four-letter word that controls the world.
I've been saying that for years and years and years.
Four-letter word that controls the world is fear.
Because once you fall to fear, and I've just got a book coming out to the printers now called The Answer, which just takes this whole thing apart, strand by strand.
And I'm talking there about a British government operation.
Which operates out of the Cabinet Office, which is around, obviously, the British Cabinet in Downing Street in London.
And it's called the Behavioural Insights Team.
Now, this is not just applicable to Britain, because this Behavioural Insights Team operates worldwide.
It operates in America.
It claims in 131 countries.
And a few years ago, Now, there were a couple of people in America.
One was called Cass Sunstein.
He was one of these czars, a ludicrous name, of Barack Obama.
And he and another guy wrote a book called Nudge.
And it was about how you give people little pushes and then they do what you want.
And for that reason, the Behavior Insights team, as it's called, is called the Nudge Unit.
And I've seen documents as they were orchestrating this lockdown, because it's all a psychological game, in which they were actually saying in this document, we have to basically frighten people into acquiescence on one side and And get people to attack and abuse, in effect, those that refuse to conform.
And we've seen all of those things.
So fear is the foundation.
And of course, we have a...
A mechanism, a survival mechanism which kicks in when we fear not surviving.
And it's a mechanism that basically says, if it gets really out of hand, I have got to do anything necessary to survive.
And part of that necessary in vast numbers of people, we've seen it the last few months, is if I have to give my freedom away to survive, then I will.
And by the way, I'm going to attack people that refuse to because they, by their actions, because I've been convinced that's the case, they are...
Putting my survival under threat.
So this survival mechanism is what they want to trigger because then you lose rational thought.
You lose deep breath.
Let's look at this from a bigger picture point of view.
How does this stack up?
Does what we're being told make sense?
None of that goes. It's I must survive.
And so it is.
You're right. It's about...
Generating fear. Because once you are in fear of something, you will give your power away to what you believe will protect you from what you fear.
And this is being used on us all the time, whether it's terrorism and health or whatever it is.
And so, yeah, it's been a classic...
Psy-op on the human psyche to get billions of people to do what they want.
Fortunately, it has concentrated the minds of, I know this from my own experience, of a large number of people who basically, because of their experience of all this, have come out of denial.
And they've started to say, well, hold on, maybe the world's not like I thought it was.
And so that's been a very positive side of this.
Yeah. David, you mentioned something before, nudging.
I heard something recently, I think it was Brett Weinstein said that, I think it was maybe a Chinese form of interrogation whereby they get someone to give up something very light, very easy to give up, like, can you tell us that America isn't good?
You know, say they're questioning an American guy, interrogating an American guy.
They'll just get him to give up a little bit and then they'll nudge him a little bit more and a little bit more until you're finally getting the juicy stuff that you want.
But it's about small increments.
And you've just described what's happened.
Yeah, exactly. Bit by bit by bit.
See, this is an interesting point you've brought up.
If they had brought in full-blown lockdown right from the start, And crucially, certainly in Britain's case, if they hadn't started handing out some payments, what they call furlough payments for people who are laid off, then there would have been a big reaction against it.
So what they've literally done with these furlough payments in Britain, and other countries have done the same, is they've bought time.
And they bought time and people thought, you know, I won't rebel because I can still kind of just about, you know, keep going.
Businesses can't. They've destroyed so many of them.
But in terms of employment payments, they've just about just about keep going.
And they didn't bring the big lockdown in immediately.
They've done it in increments.
And so they're kind of pulling you in like a fishing line.
The other thing they've done is, oh, well, we're going to consider whether the lockdown, once they've smacked it all in, we're going to consider whether the lockdown is...
It's going to be eased at this date.
And people say, oh, well, it's only just a bit longer.
And what's happening in Britain? They say, oh, no, we've decided we're going to keep it going.
And so they pull you along.
And then, of course, what happens and what's happening now is as they say, OK, we're going to ease the lockdown, what happens is life doesn't go back to normal.
Life goes back to what they're calling the new normal, which is ludicrous.
You know, oh yeah, we're opening the pubs.
Well, actually, you're not, are you?
Because we all have to stay apart from each other.
We have to queue to get in.
Some pubs are saying you have to book to come in.
I mean, it's crazy.
David, I have an automated message I want to relay to you that I heard that really boggled my mind.
And I'm sure that it'll boggle your mind as well.
It said on the radio here in Thailand...
If you love someone so much, you will distance yourself from them.
Yeah, I know. And that made, you know, as a logical aspect, that doesn't make any sense because that's love you want to touch, you want to hold the people you love, and now it's if you love someone, you will distance yourself from them.
Yeah, and that's what we're getting all over the world.
And there's a common theme here.
See, if you look at...
Random individual events.
They look a certain way, but you look at how they connect and you'll see the pattern, you'll see the picture.
And this is why to understand where this cult is In the process of taking the world is to understand events as they happen.
I have this phrase, know the outcome and you'll see the journey.
If you don't know where we're being taken and how in terms of psychological manipulation, then all events are random and they make no sense and they just seem in and of themselves.
But once you realize where we're being taken, Then they suddenly make absolute sense because what you're looking at is not random events, but stepping stones to that outcome.
So the the longer term outcome, and it's not that longer term when we're only talking that they're only talking 10 years or so, is to have a fusion of the human body with artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence connected to the human brain so that we we basically become AI. In terms of our thoughts and our emotional responses or what will pass for them then.
And we're being taken into what I call the Hunger Games Society.
I've been writing about this for decades.
If people picture a pyramid, at the top of the pyramid is what's become known, I'll use the term symbolically, although it's close to literally true, the 1%.
At the bottom are basically the rest of humanity.
In servitude to the 1% because they are dependent upon the 1% for survival.
And in the middle between the two is a, what is planned to be in the end, a military police state imposing the will of the 1% on the population and stopping the population rebelling against the 1%.
That structure has been in my books for decades as the goal, the outcome.
And that pyramid is designed to be run and controlled by AI technology.
So when I did an interview before the lockdown in Britain and I was asked what's going on here, I said right at the start, I described that structure and I said this pandemic hoax is going to give them all that they want here.
So you've got to ask yourself, have they struck lucky?
Yeah, it's like, I'm so sorry David, it's like step one because what they've done so far is they've removed a lot of small businesses, right?
Yeah. And then you've got your people like your Amazons and, you know, who have survived and who will survive and who do deliveries, so they're getting bigger.
So I think we're starting to see the...
What would you call it?
The embers of that now.
Exactly. Because, you know, you've seen a level of society removed.
But I think what you're touching on there when you mention companies like Amazon is that I think we all have to kind of realize that fundamentally...
A baseline. Amazon is Google, is Facebook.
You know, they're all part of the same thing.
But what really interests me, David, is when you mention AI. A lot of people might not be familiar with the term.
You mentioned that it could be integrated so that it will eventually become your subconscious.
Well, eventually the idea is that AI becomes the human mind.
So at the moment, when you've got billions of people and at the core, I'm not kidding, at the core of the core of this cult that's driving this, you could get them in one room.
And a few can only control the many by manipulating the target population to enslave itself, which is what happens.
And also, you can only do that.
I keep doing me nose because the sweats make me nose itch.
You can only...
Do that by controlling perception because you cannot physically, you can once AI is the human mind, but before that you can't physically impose your will upon people because there's not enough of you.
So you have to manipulate perception because from perception comes behavior.
If you control perception, you control behavior.
Because our behavior comes from perception.
And perception comes from information received.
So control the information that people receive.
This is why all the censorship is going on now in Silicon Valley and elsewhere.
You control information.
You control perception. You control behavior.
The idea is to...
Replace that with a direct connection by AI, which means you don't have to manipulate perception anymore, because perception is coming direct.
This is where we are heading.
And what we're looking at is a stepping stone, what I call the totalitarian tiptoe, of AI. Fundamentally connected events to lead us to that outcome.
Now, coming up to what you've just been talking about, about hugging and being close, The idea is that humans have a relationship with technology, with AI. This is why they're putting AI technology everywhere with these echoes and series and dolls for kids that they can interact with AI. Because they are building up this psychological interaction with AI so that people interact with it as if AI is human.
This is where it's going.
Sorry to interrupt, but do you think that's why they're...
Is that why they're pushing us apart physically, telling us that we can't come into contact with each other and kind of Aiming to replace us with AI, essentially.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I was just coming to that.
So you've got this fusion with AI, and at the same time, they're pushing humans apart.
This is what social distancing is about.
It's what masks are about.
Well, masks are also about causing respiratory problems in a cumulative way, which they're then going to call COVID-19.
But the other part of it is, how can you have a human interaction with someone with a mask on?
And you've got a mask on. How can you?
There's no facial features.
There's no natural interaction.
It's all pushing people apart.
And when you lock down and you have any kind of human-human contact, apart from the few people in your house, You are communicating via technology.
In other words, via AI technology.
So we're being pulled apart while we're being fused with AI technology.
This is all part of the process.
It's interesting, David, I'm just going to cut in.
When you talk about AI and video games, it's really interesting as well.
When I look at children now, they play video games and they're often in groups of like 12, similar to hunting groups in past societies.
And they would get into groups of like 12 of them.
They're each in their own house, in their own bedrooms, and they'll get together and they will...
You know, they will fight in these little battalions.
And it's very, you know, it's acting on our instincts to be part of a group, but it's completely apart from our instincts because it's all online.
And I can see the manipulation of people's, you know, societal instincts being manipulated by AI technology and transhumanism.
So it's very cunning and it's very clever.
The way it operates.
The whole foundation of it, I've been saying this for years, the whole foundation of the conspiracy is psychology.
Because to control people's behavior, you have to control their psychology, their perception.
The whole focus of the manipulation, I mean, there are many ways it plays out in different ways, but the focus, the foundation of it is psychology.
And what they're doing at the moment is changing psychology.
What they are calling the new normal Or the Great Reset.
And by the way, the Great Reset was in my books for years as a code term for this transformation of human society.
Now people like Prince Charles are using it openly.
We need the Great Reset.
The New Norm or the Great Reset.
These are just different names for a transformation of human psychology.
And, you know, we've had in Britain and people will have had around the world.
Impositions. During this lockdown that make no sense whatsoever, but they're not meant to.
See, we at one point had a situation where you could meet one parent or grandparent in a park, but not in their garden, because if you meet them in the garden, maybe you've got to go through their house.
But at the same time this was in place, people were then by that time allowed to have Cleaners and estate agents and nannies in the house.
So at that point, you could have them, but you couldn't have your parent or grandparent in your house and you couldn't meet two of them at the same time, only one, and then you'd have to go meet the other.
Now, this makes no sense.
It's extraordinarily stupid.
Wearing a mask, where the pores are bigger than viral particles, makes no sense.
But what it does, the more ridiculous, contradictory and stupid You can get people to acquiesce to, the more you're breaking their spirit, you're breaking their resistance.
And I'm sure this is the case.
They're sitting around a table saying, what more do you think they'll take?
Because I've had this analogy over the years.
What can we get away with? Yeah, get away with.
What will they acquiesce to?
And if they'll acquiesce to a bit more and there's no pushback, well, you go a bit further.
I'm sure it's the same where you are, but...
In Britain, shopping and all these things.
I'm very curious, David, because there's an American rock band called Rage Against the Machine.
And they talk about raging against the machine, the political systems and everything like that.
And then you have these movements...
Like Black Lives Matter in the world, and it started in the U.S., and now it's spreading worldwide, where it's in France, it's in the U.K., it's all over the world, and they're fighting against oppression from a police state, as you would say.
And yet, some of these ideological groups that are out there We would say are funded by outside entities.
You know what I mean? The top-down pyramid scheme.
If some of us that want to make a difference in the world, like to try and fight against the system, but yet we join a group like Black Lives Matter that is in the pyramid scheme, how do we make a difference in the world?
What do we need to do?
How do we do it without joining the fundamental things that are wrong?
You know what I mean? I'm confused as a young person.
What do I need to do to join?
Because I don't want to join the wrong faction like Black Lives Matter that is actually funded by the people at the top, as you would say.
What do I need to do as a young person?
Because it's a psychological game.
You have to be streetwise to how people are psychologically manipulated.
And unfortunately, what's known as the woke mentality, not least because of the programming that's gone on, the intensity of the programming that's gone on in the last few generations in the schools and universities, has been monumental.
And basically, it is...
It has turned out, and I don't cast aspersions on all young people at all.
I don't cast aspersions on anyone, but I mean, I don't apply this to all young people.
I'm frankly staggered at the number of young people who've seen through it, given the level of perceptual programming that's gone on year after year in the education system, systematically to transform their perceptions.
And so you have a An education system which over the last few generations has not educated people.
They've not educated people about the ways of the world.
They've educated them or they've downloaded a perceptual program, which is now known as WOKE. And WOKE is incredibly naive because it does not understand how the world works and it doesn't connect dots.
It only sees what is in front of it.
So we've had this bizarre situation.
I'll come around to what we can do in a minute.
I could talk for hours about that.
We've had a situation, for instance, where we've been forced into lockdown, house arrest.
I'm not forced into it. People have acquiesced into it.
And it has had a series of fascistic consequences.
One, it has destroyed the independent livelihoods of vast numbers of people, which has created this Hunger Games Society on a much greater level than it was before the lockdown, which is exactly what they wanted.
This is being used to create a 24-7 surveillance system for a virus, even if you believe it exists.
Some of us don't. That, according to even mainstream estimates now, has an infection to fatality rate of 0.26%.
And if you are under 70, it's something like 0.04%.
On the back of that, we're being told by psychopaths like Bill Gates that everybody on the planet has to be vaccinated against it.
We have seen already the emerging catastrophe and it's going to be Of people who, because they've not been diagnosed or treated in the lockdown period, are going to, and doctors are saying this, that the life expectancy of a very large number of people is going to be shortened because of lack of diagnosis and lack of treatment during the lockdown.
We've had vast numbers of old people die, not from COVID-19, just a cover story that is,
but from not being given treatment for other things in places like...
Pre-conditioned illnesses.
Yeah, care homes and nursing homes.
And loneliness as well, right?
We've had all of this...
We've had fine detail imposition on our lives all over the world.
Where's the freaking outrage?
Where's the outrage?
Where's the protests?
The protests go to George Floyd.
We're protesting George Floyd in Minneapolis.
At the end of this, As they roll back some of the extremes of it, and it's all coming back, by the way, all in the plan, but as they roll back the extremes of it, the most extremes of it now, this is a period of reflection, surely, for people to say, what just happened?
And on the basis of what?
And look at my situation, now compare what it was before, on the basis of what?
Instead, very large numbers of people Who sat there like good little boys and girls.
Government says it's dangerous, so we're going to sit at home and I'm going to have a go at anyone who goes in their garden more than once a day.
Suddenly, in an instant, overnight, went from that to shoulder-to-shoulder protests, as you say, about the situation with George Floyd.
Do you think, David...
Go ahead. Do you think Boris Johnson, our headmaster, if we had to carry this schoolboy-schoolgirl analogy forward, really had COVID-19?
Well, I would say he didn't for a simple reason.
I say there isn't a COVID-19.
He had something, but then you have to ask the question, in a country of 66 million people, where a fraction, a tiny fraction, I personally...
In all this period, know no one who have had it and no one who's been sick with it.
Nobody! Nobody!
And every time I ask somebody, I say that, do you know anybody who's had COVID-19?
Or do you know anybody that's had this virus?
We don't know anyone.
No, we do. Between all four of us, we know two people who have died.
Between four of us and our friends' friends, we know two.
Well, very rarely, in my experience, they'll say, yes, I do.
So you say, okay, so tell me the story.
And when they tell you the story, it's clear that they didn't.
Because what we have to do is to go back to this.
The PCR test, which they're using to test whether you have COVID-19 or not, does not test for COVID-19.
You have the inventor of the test who won a Nobel Prize for it called Kerry Mullis.
He invented this PCR test in the 1980s, who said this should not be used to diagnose infectious disease.
So you have this test that doesn't test for what you say it's testing for.
And if you get a positive result, you say that they have something that the test is not testing for.
And if anyone then dies after testing positive, COVID-19 goes on the death certificate.
In fact, COVID-19 goes on the death certificate almost no matter what now.
I mean, when you have a situation in America where...
There are massive financial incentives for diagnosing someone with COVID-19 pneumonia instead of regular pneumonia and vast incentives to put those people onto ventilators.
I mean like tens of thousands of dollars for every individual.
You know there's a scam going on.
When doctors are being sent suddenly New guidance for how to fill in a death certificate.
They've been filling in all their careers with no problem to put COVID-19 on it.
When you have rules like in Scotland where Anyone that tests positive for COVID-19 with a test that's not testing for COVID-19 and then dies of anything within 28 days, then COVID-19 must go on the death certificate.
When you have a British doctor working for the British National Health Service coming out a couple of weeks ago and saying that he knows that other doctors have been putting COVID-19 on death certificates for any cause of death since, as he put it, from early March onwards, And the same is coming out in America and other places.
You know there's a massive scam going on because if you've got a genuine virus that's genuinely deadly or harmful, you don't need to fix the figures.
It's exactly the same scam as human-caused climate change, which the same cult is also hoaxing.
Look at the common themes between the two.
To justify their position, both are having to fix the figures.
I mean, The data figures for climate and temperature have been exposed many, many times as being fixed.
Because if you've got a genuine problem, you don't have to do that.
But if you haven't, and you want to give the impression of it, then you have to fix the data.
David, it seems like someone could have an underlying condition, but die of something else.
For example, an alcoholic, a heavy alcoholic could die.
And they could have, let's say, cancer.
But they didn't die of the cancer.
They died because they were a heavy alcoholic and their internal organs failed.
Because they had cancer, they're not going to mark it down as he died of cancer.
But it seems to me that...
If you have COVID and you die of anything else, purely because you have been diagnosed with having COVID, it's going to go into the death certificate and people are going to think, well, that's how he died.
Well, Paul, on top of that, I watched a podcast recently, You had a podcast with an Israeli podcaster.
You said that these hospitals get money.
They get money for ventilators.
They get money for having COVID-19 patients in quarantine.
So they get money for it, especially in a hospital in the United States where they're privately owned.
It's almost like an incentive.
They get money. So these COVID deaths, it equates to money.
Yeah, exactly that.
And so you asked why that is.
And, you know, a number of doctors, American doctors, have come out and been outspoken.
And what happens next is their videos get deleted from YouTube, which is a cult operation through Google.
But if you look at the sequence of events, because this is all being played out according to a script.
And it works like this.
First of all, The way the world is controlled and the way that these pandemics can be pulled off is through a global structure of secret societies and semi-secret groups and agencies, etc. that operates like a transnational corporation.
So you've got the headquarters, in this case in the shadows, that dictates the policy.
This is this cult at the top of the pyramid I talked about.
And in each country, there is a network of families, of secret societies, semi-secret groups, and they operate in the agencies of the institutions.
And their job is to impose in their country the centrally dictated agenda.
And so you have these different hierarchical pyramids in each country, which this cult controls from the top.
This includes the medical pyramid, which is...
Basically, the big pharma cartel pyramid of the scalpel and the drug.
I talked earlier about imposition acquiescence.
If you take the medical pyramid in each country, you only need a very few people at the top.
To dictate policy, and then everyone else acquiesces it and imposes it on the next level and the next level.
And so you talk to doctors who've actually come out and exposed some of this, and you say, well, why haven't more doctors done it?
Well, because they're just doing as they're told, without question, because they know their career's in trouble if you don't.
And this has been the sequence.
First of all, China is one of the great If not very close to up there now, centers for this cult.
And what they've done since the Mao Cultural Revolution, which the woke people are now wanting to impose upon the world, they have incubated within China the very society, and then some, that they want the world to be.
So you've got the technology control, you've got the face recognition cameras, millions of them, where they can find someone in minutes.
Social credit. Yes, the social credit system, exactly.
Collective society.
So you've got this.
And the cult controls China.
It created the new China as an incubation society that they want to play out across the world.
So you look at the Western world since this virus pandemic hoax, and it's become more and more and more like China.
This is not having a go at Chinese people.
Chinese people, of course, are oppressed by this system.
It's not the Chinese they want to...
Basically play out across the world.
It's the Chinese model that they want to play out across the world.
It's like a system that they wish to emulate, that same kind of system.
Yeah. This is why Silicon Valley giants and their cult operatives are so close to China.
So the idea was you start this off in China and When people started getting ill, we were told in China, how were they diagnosing people?
They were diagnosing people at first only on symptoms, and they were flu-like symptoms.
Now, flu-like symptoms in a place like Wuhan, which has extraordinarily toxic air, It is an epidemic ongoing any time of the year.
So they diagnosed this new virus.
So when you break down what they did, they took lung fluid from people who were ill.
And they never isolated that fluid to show that there's a virus.
They took a genetic material, RNA code, which was not a virus.
That's what the PCR is testing for, which is not a virus.
They've never isolated it, never shown it to exist.
So first of all, they're diagnosing people with this new virus on symptoms.
Then they introduce the test, and the test is testing for not COVID-19.
But the key, this was the key of the whole scam, There was draconian lockdown.
And you remember, you saw pictures of people walking down the street and just collapsing in the street with this deadly illness.
Why has that never happened in the West?
Same virus, isn't it? Never happened.
So what you've got is the key.
The draconian lockdown was the way to respond to this virus.
Immediately, the World Health Organization, which is owned by Bill Gates, is its second biggest funder.
And if Trump pulls American government funding, then he'll be the biggest funder.
And Tedros from Ethiopia, totally corrupt man.
Who's the Director General of the World Health Organization.
He covered up the cholera thing, didn't he?
Yeah, exactly.
He was exposed for covering up cholera outbreaks and he was on the payroll of a Gates organization called Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance.
He's a Gates man. He's not a doctor, a medical person.
He's just a A mouthpiece for Gates.
So he comes out when this Chinese thing was going on and he says the Chinese way of dealing with this virus is the way to deal with it.
Gates comes out and says the same.
But there was a problem.
China is still over there somewhere over the rainbow country to many people in the West.
We're very close to that.
What they had to do to really lock this response in Was to have a Western country have a dramatic outbreak of this deadly disease.
And they chose Italy.
And so where did they choose in Italy?
They chose Northern Italy in an area called Lombardi, which has by far the biggest death rating in any region of Italy because of notoriously toxic disease.
Wow. So what they then said later, after all the pictures were locked down.
You remember Italy locked down very early on March the 9th and the whole country.
And this was now, okay, this is the way to deal with it.
Well, it turns out later But this is official Italian government figures.
99% of those who died of COVID-19 in an area of massive respiratory disease because of the toxic air, etc.
99% had other morbidities, as they called.
One, two, three, four or more reasons for them to die.
And after all the numbers, oh, look at the numbers!
The Italian authorities came out and said, actually, this was the word they used, we were a little generous people.
With designating COVID-19 on death certificates.
And they then decided that only about 12% of those who were designated to have died of COVID-19 actually did.
I say it was... So now, because it's all psychological, you see, now the West has something Western it can relate to.
And it was, this could be us next.
And I had a communication From a medical scientist in America who works in American medical system.
This was very early on.
Very early on. The major lockdowns in the West really hadn't gotten away.
And he was pointing out That there was no virus, and what there was was a new test.
As what one German doctor said, we don't have a new virus, we have a new test.
This is the PCR test that's not testing for COVID-19.
And he said, if you were wanting to create a fake pandemic, Then you would pick a coronavirus because there's a whole family of coronaviruses which are in the body normally and the immune system keeps them under control, no problem. But you'll test for them.
And you won't test for COVID-19 because it doesn't exist, but you could test for other coronaviruses, which people have in their bodies.
And so he said, you pick a coronavirus.
And he said something else very interesting, which turned out to be absolutely true.
He said, look, if you can't produce enough dead people from your virus, because there isn't a virus, basically, then what you do is say, Oh, well, no, there's not a lot of people dying now, but it's coming.
And the way you support...
The second wave. The second wave.
The second wave, as they're saying.
I'm talking about the first wave here.
And he said, the way you support the fact that, ooh, it's coming, is computer models.
And so we have, not just us, but America and many other countries, locked down Not because of the numbers of people who were dying at the time, according to the official figures, but because computer models out of the Imperial College in London, which is unbelievably massively funded by Bill Gates, and a guy called Professor Neil Ferguson, funded by Bill Gates...
It came out with these computer models that said half a million people could die from this in Britain if there's no lockdown.
Two million people in America could die from this if there was no lockdown.
Once the lockdown happened and mission accomplished, because now the livelihoods of people and businesses were underway with all the things that they won, they rolled it back.
Massively! Oh no, well, maybe not so many will die.
And of course, it's been monumentally wrong, and Ferguson and Imperial College have been massively discredited.
But this medical scientist preempted this, and exactly what happened.
And he said something else. What they'll say then is when their massive figures don't happen, They'll say, ah, no, it won't because we were wrong.
It's because the lockdown stopped it happening.
Which when you look at states in America and Sweden and Japan, et cetera, where there wasn't a lockdown, they were either on a par with or much better than other countries.
There's no work dirtier or darker for a scientist or a mathematician.
And it seems that the figures that they came up with and the models that they supplied It just eradicates the smaller businesses and the medium-sized businesses and the common person who now has no real way to make a living.
You have to rely on huge corporations and you have to rely on governments.
And that seems to have been the plan all along.
Yes, it was. I said that, like I said earlier, I said that in an interview, even before lockdown happened.
This is why they're doing it.
This is what's going to happen.
Again, I come back to this.
Once you know where they want to go, this Hunger Games Society structure I described, reading events day by day is child's play because you can see the movement towards that goal, that end.
If you're going to put people in a position of absolute dependency, thus control, on the few at the top, you have to destroy their access to an independent livelihood.
Otherwise, you're not going to put them in that situation of dependency.
That's what it's all about.
Like I said earlier, in Britain and other countries, they've been buying time.
To stop a real reaction against this, which would have come had there been no payments because people wouldn't have been able to eat.
But, you know, in Britain, they've said we'll keep them going, although they've lowered them now until October.
But the point when they go, because I know a lot of companies and it will be phenomenal numbers of companies if you play it out, who are still theoretically Employing people they did employ, because while they accept that, then these furlough payments, as they called, for people laid off because of the virus will continue.
But when those payments stop, And there's no reason for, or the payments stop, then the companies need to take back the workers and start paying them.
They're not going to be able to. And at that point, unemployment, official unemployment is going to go through the stratosphere.
To the true devastation.
Yeah. I was going to say, David, there's no better way to enslave someone than to have them reliant on you for something, right?
For something essential. Yeah.
Because then you've got them in the palm of your hand, basically.
Yeah, which brings us to this.
They are already in the process of creating a sequence of events that will eventually create a food crisis, a food shortage.
Because you talk there about if you can get people dependent, absolutely right, you control them.
But the more fundamental...
That dependency is, the more control.
And apart from air and water, there's nothing more fundamental for human survival than food.
And if you can control the food by creating manipulated shortages, it's what they're planning already.
Because so much food that would have been circulated has been lost because all the supply chains broke with all the restaurants and stuff and many other things all being closed.
Farmers have lost enormous amounts of money because they can't sell their produce.
So a lot of things are happening in food processing plants and stuff which are designed eventually to lead to this food shortage because that's all planned because if you can get people dependent on you for food, then you're going to be in a position of tremendous control.
David, is that the next step?
Is that what's coming next?
In the demolition of society.
Exactly, the demolition of society.
Can I add on to that as well, David?
We'll make this the last question, I think.
Oh, you can keep going, basically. It's his next step thing.
And where, and do you think this will happen, but where does the staged alien invasion come into that?
Oh, I think... Or is that bullshit?
I don't know. What I was going to say is...
Towards the end of this new book, The Answer, I do two chapters which absolutely take this pandemic hoax apart, strand by strand, with factual evidence.
But I say towards the end of the second of the chapters, what we can look at now is a series of upheavals and Basically, society changing events that, on the face of it, have nothing to do with a virus.
And the book was only just at the printers when all these riots and stuff broke out with Black Lives Matter, which is another It's why Black Lives Matter is funded by the 1% corporations, 1% billionaires, 1% foundations, because it's there to drive on racial grounds people apart.
Do you believe that Black Lives Matter, as much as it's a very relevant topic, especially right now, do you believe that it's some form of a wedge?
A wedge to kind of drive us in different directions.
One of its major funders has been George Soros.
George Soros has put so far $32 billion into the Open Society Foundations, which is his vehicle for the global manipulation on behalf of the cult.
And George Soros has said publicly that in his business of making money, which is a real easy thing to do if you know when the market's going up and when the market's going down, because those that own you are making it go up and down, it's really easy to make money.
You don't have to be bright to do that.
But you make vast amounts of money.
And what happens with the Gateses and the Soruses, etc., is when they make vast amounts of money because of their connections to the cult, there is a rider to that.
They have to spend great chunks of that wealth on advancing cult agendas.
So with Sorus, it's funding things like Black Lives Matter and this whole woke agenda, which is massively funded into existence.
And many, many other things.
So-called people's revolutions, they're actually not people's revolutions at all.
Like in the Arab Spring, he was fundamentally in the Open Society Foundations involved in triggering those, which turned out great for Arab people, didn't it?
Yeah, wonderful. And in terms of Gates, it's many, many things because he's generated so much money through Microsoft.
But the foundation of Gates's contribution is control of the world health policy and imposing vaccinations.
So you've got Soros who said...
That he doesn't consider the social consequences of what he does in his financial business.
He's just there to make money.
And we're asked to believe that someone with those attitudes is going to put literally tens of billions of dollars into social justice organizations.
I mean, please. And the naivety is unbelievable.
You know, in the days of the old left, which I grew up in, in a council house in Leicester, The idea that you would, as a left of centre political party or grouping, get in bed with multi-billionaires and multi-billionaire corporations and foundations was unthinkable.
But now it's not a problem.
As long as these 1%ers talk the language of woke and out wads of cash, they're on our side now, on the woke side.
Because before it was fighting against the man, wasn't it?
Against the fucking 1%, against the man.
Yeah, it was highlighting inequality.
You see, this is what things like the Black Lives Matter 1% funded organization does.
It diverts from the real injustice.
The real injustice is economic.
You know, you've got a handful of people now, literally a handful, that have the same amount
of wealth as the poorest half of the population.
That's the injustice.
It doesn't matter whether you're black, white, or any color, creed, or culture.
That's the injustice.
And it's about, it doesn't matter if you're a Muslim or a Jew or a middle class American,
or if you're black or Asian or whatever.
If you look at all those different cultures, it's not whether you're this color or that
color or have this belief or that belief.
The hierarchy is the small number of your grouping, whatever it may be, or your racial group, whatever it is, Imposing their will and holding the financial cards over the rest of the population.
So what they want so that there's not a unity.
So black people and white people and Asian people and all these other different groups and belief systems come together in unity to say we're all in this together because we're all being crushed by the same force.
They want to divide.
They have to divide those groups down racial and income lines and Religious lines, so that the target population is at war with itself, and the people pulling the strings of everybody are left to go on doing that without too much challenge.
Sorry to interject here, David, but in the United States, and actually in the United States, because I'm American, when the United States ended, when they said approximately when they did the war in 1850-1851 to the It actually came later than the rest of the world, right? We're good to go.
And our stores that we had, and they indebted people.
And nowadays, the modern form of slavery is debt.
You enslave someone through debt, and where they feel that they can't get out.
And that's what slavery was in the 1850s.
They cannot get out.
Here in Thailand, everyone is...
Everyone wants to look good.
David, face is a very big thing here in Thailand.
You know, you have to have the nicest car.
You have to have the nicest watch.
Otherwise, people just look at you like you're nothing.
And people tend to get into major, you know, higher purchase schemes with cars and houses and things.
Just things that they cannot really pay back.
It's not regulated like the UK as well, right?
Absolutely not, no. Yeah, you're absolutely right.
You're absolutely right what you just said.
When people talk about slavery in the past tense, what they're talking about is one expression of slavery.
One expression of slavery was white people, some black people too, by the way.
Forget that.
Actually owning other human beings, black slaves.
But that was a form of slavery.
And because that ended doesn't mean slavery ended.
The whole world is enslaved because, not least financially, you're absolutely right, because what is freedom?
Freedom is choice.
Freedom is the ability to make choices.
So the more choices you can make about your life, the freer you are.
The fewer choices, the less free you are.
You talk about the black slave era that is being well documented.
That was a case of a slave having no frickin' choices, except what the so-called master told him or her to do.
So freedom is about the ability to make choices and the world financial system owned by the cult,
which is why I say that the injustice is economic across the swathe of humanity.
The control of the financial system is control of people's choices. And if you look at the
consequences of this lockdown, people have fewer and fewer choices as a result of the
consequences of the lockdown, which means they have less and less freedom. Even where
they physically want to go is now taken away in terms of choice in many.
That's very interesting because one thing that I did want to point out is everywhere in the world, I'm talking to my friends in the United States, we're lucky to have the communication and talk with people instantly.
Most of the lockdown measures have been lifted congruently across the world.
They have been done simultaneously at the same time.
So tell me how Thailand, we live in Thailand, we live in Bangkok, tell me how these restrictions are being limited at the same time as the restrictions are being limited in the UK or in the United States.
How did it happen that they happened simultaneously?
And how did it happen?
Because there is someone at the top telling people Yeah, exactly.
I mean, basically, you're just letting the steam valve off.
The idea is, I mean, let's think about it.
In Britain, And the West now, we're in midsummer.
It's very hot.
Respiratory disease, which is the third biggest cause of death in the world, never mind COVID-19, it was before.
So they have so many ways that they can dub people COVID-19 because there's so much respiratory disease, not least among old people.
Just very quickly, the reason this fake virus overwhelmingly kills old people and overwhelmingly doesn't affect young people is very simple.
Old people have lots of other causes of death that can be dubbed COVID-19.
Young people do not.
They do not have the death diseases which can be designated COVID-19.
So it's focused in a very, very small area of society because, like I said earlier, the official estimates is that if you're less than 70, Then the death rate of COVID-19 is about 0.004%, even if you believe it exists.
And it's because they have all these other morbidities with old people they can designate COVID-19.
It's all, in effect, a death certificate, bookkeeping, fake testing, scam, the whole thing.
But you're right.
Why would...
Different countries in different parts of the world be doing the same thing when surely they would be in different phases of this virus if there was one.
I mean, it is crazy, but you're right.
And the idea is that if you look now, we're in midsummer in the Western world.
In a few months, as we come through September, October, November, we're going into the winter.
That's when people start having colds, having coughs and sneezes and pneumonia.
Even here, David, when we kind of, around about the same time, we come into the wet season when all the storms and things come.
Yeah. I mean, it affects everyone.
I mean, And they'll designate all this stuff that before was, oh, you've got the flu.
Oh, you've got a bit of a chill.
Oh, you've got a cold or COVID-19.
And so they'll bring the lockdown back in.
That's the whole plan.
And the idea is, and this is the Gates plan, that the only way out of lockdown...
Will be to have the vaccine.
The idea is to make it mandatory, but if enough people push back on it, then it will be okay.
We won't force it on you, but you can't come out of lockdown until you have it.
And this is the plan going forward.
But if we come round, because I don't want to miss that question from earlier, which we've been going off in all different directions, which would be very interesting, but I don't want to lose this.
What can young people do?
What can all people do?
Well, I see the first reaction To something that people don't like in any number is to protest.
Okay, so unless you are protesting, as in the Black Lives Matter protests, for something that the 1% want, then protests go nowhere.
We had half a million, a million people on the streets of London protesting about the imminent invasion of Iraq in 2003.
They invaded Iraq. Protests don't change anything unless one of two things.
A, the 1% want what the protesters are demanding, in which case, oh, we'll concede to you because it's what we want anyway.
And secondly, unless the protests are also involving non-compliance, non-cooperation and refusal to acquiesce to our own enslavement.
You know, we've just had masks made mandatory on British public transport.
They tried to get me to wear one on a ferry the other day.
I wouldn't. And because, you know, if you concede to stupid, you become stupid.
But say lots of people didn't want to wear the masks.
So they have a protest outside Parliament.
We stop, stop the imposing of masks.
Then they get on public transport and they put the mask on and go home.
You don't need to protest.
You don't need to protest.
You just need not to acquiesce.
So you've got a train guard or whatever going down the train.
Oh, you know, you've got to wear a mask, got to wear a mask.
We're not doing it. What's he going to do?
I'll call the police.
Well, you've got a train full of people.
I won't do it. What are you going to do?
Can I just interject, Greg?
I know that you're talking about a wider point and the mask isn't the specific point in your question.
It's just the principle.
Don't acquiesce and it can't happen.
But a lot of people will not forgive me if I don't say something about...
Because you've mentioned masks a few times and I've been an advocate for masks.
Now, I love you, David.
I don't even really want to do this, but I just feel I'll kick myself after the episode if I don't say something because I've been saying it to everyone else.
If I don't say something now, I'll be a hypocrite.
So, I just want to say...
Vicky's a superhero and he wears a mask every day.
But I just... My point is that all Thais wear masks.
They do anyway. Whenever they're sick, they wear a mask.
It's just ingrained in the culture.
And we've done very well with COVID here in Thailand.
Very, very well. We haven't had any person-to-person infection for 25 days.
30 days now. 30 days.
The local infections. And I agree that while masks are not foolproof, that even if they just stop at 2% or 3% That would have got through, therefore doesn't get through.
Two people are wearing masks as well.
I think it just makes people feel more comfortable.
For me, it's just something in the line.
I've got mine over there.
Because it's the culture here.
I don't feel like I'm enslaved or buying into any propaganda by wearing a mask.
To be honest, I just think it's easy to do.
Well, that's your choice.
Yes, absolutely. I say...
That wearing a mask is Ongoing, long-term, is very bad for your health because you're breathing in carbon dioxide and you're not breathing enough oxygen.
If you go onto the website today, there's a posting of a guy who got an oxygen measurement device and checked the oxygen before the mask and after the mask and the device goes on.
I've been running with mine on. It starts flashing.
Yeah, but you know...
You can do it for a while, but after a while, it starts to impact upon you, especially if you've got problems in that area or you've got weakness in that area anyway.
I mean, you're breathing in your own expelled carbon dioxide on a level that you wouldn't without a mask.
And fundamentally, the thing about masks is why do people put masks on to rob things?
So they won't be recognized.
They won't be seen.
There was this no interaction where I understand you.
I see you. I can have a human interaction with you.
Masks, stop that.
I mean, all the time I'm looking at people with masks.
I don't even know who they are.
People come up to me and say, how are you?
I don't even know who it is.
Yeah, regardless of what industry they're in or how they know you, everyone is becoming...
Kind of anonymous. Everyone's becoming some sort of...
It's weird. That's the idea.
Like some sort of weird movie where they're like a pawn and you just don't know who they are.
Sometimes you just recognise the eyes.
But this is the point.
This is the point. If you want to wear a mask, if anyone wants to wear a mask, it's none of my freaking business.
None! But don't tell me I'm going to put some cover on me bloody face.
Because some dark suit prat who's being told from the background this should be the policy And a politician comes along and reads from a script saying, we're introducing compulsory masks.
Everyone's got to wear masks.
Well, who the frickin' hell are you to tell me what I'm to put on my face or not?
It's insane. And once you concede to that, where's it frickin' end?
How about Mickey Mouse ears?
Let's put them on. That might save us from the virus.
It's really weird because in the United States...
In the United States, there are Democrats and Republicans, and they like to, again, like you said, place people on sides.
The people who ask questions like, why should I wear a mask?
Why do I need to do this?
What if I have a medical condition?
They're talked as crazy people that you are not following the norm.
You are not doing what you're supposed to.
And it's like, well, yeah.
That's a discussion, isn't it?
To make people...
Believe that they're not following the norm.
This is not the right thing to do.
This is not the normal thing to do.
You're weird if you're not wearing a mask.
You're not following these rules.
You're a threat to me, therefore I'm going to have a go at you in the street.
Exactly. I came across the other night On the Isle of Wight ferry and it left the other side at one minute to midnight and compulsory masks on public transport came in at midnight.
So I was basically handed, as I got on the boat, the first mask to be issued On British public transport.
I must have been in the time I was in.
Now, I was the only passenger on that boat in the whole lounge of the entire ship.
They wanted me to wear a mask.
I told him where to stick it.
And then the captain came down from the bridge.
The captain came down from the bridge.
Nice man. Had a chat with me about the rule and everything.
And said, look, I can understand you won't wear a mask when there's no one else here.
But when you walk off the ship, would you mind wearing a mask?
I said, well, no, I won't.
Because it's stupid.
And I will not do stupid.
And I walked off the ship without wearing a mask.
And funnily enough, no one died.
So... It's not about choice.
If you want to choose to wear a mask, good luck to you, mate.
None of my business. Don't tell me what my choices are going to be.
And by the way, why am I a threat to you if you've got a mask on?
Your mask is going to protect you, innit?
I love this. I love this with vaccines.
Your child's not vaccinated.
He's a threat to my child.
But your child's been vaccinated, right?
Yeah! Well, so that...
It gives them immunity, right?
Vaccinations, though, that's a whole new...
That's opening up a whole new conversation.
It's really weird because the mainstream media and all these people tell you to wear a mask and then all of a sudden you that, you know, okay, I'll wear a mask just to...
To go out in public and look normal.
The new normal. I'll wear a mask just to, you know, not look different from people.
You know, it's strange. And then all of a sudden, you know, after this whole lockdown starts going on, you start looking at people differently.
Why isn't that person wearing a mask?
All of a sudden, your mentality before all this shit started is, why isn't this...
You know, I wasn't asking this question before this pandemic started.
You know, what's weird is, like, when you mention the new normal...
I have a student and he's really bright.
He's very, very intelligent, like incredibly so, and years beyond his age.
And we were talking a few days ago and he starts telling me about, I mean, he's what, nine years old?
And he starts telling me about the new normal.
And it was kind of depressing because I'm thinking he's nine years old and the new normal to him is essentially normal.
You know, he's telling me this is the new normal, but when I was nine years old, you know, the new normal for me would have been the normal, you know, so it's kind of depressing to think what he's going to be going into.
But, you know, on that route as well, I mean, David, I just want to say that we're kind of coming to a close with regards to the time that we've got here.
And we obviously, you know, really appreciate the fact that you're a busy man and we Thank you so much for taking the time to join us.
Can I just respond to that last point?
This is very, very important. They have a time scale for the full-blown introduction of this Hunger Games Society controlled by AI, human brain connected to AI. And they're openly talking about 2030 and when that really gets...
Where they want it to be.
But of course, this pandemic has pushed a lot of it forward and speeded it up.
And basically, they are programming.
This is where the woke thing comes from.
They're programming the young We're good to go.
Back when I was born in 1952, I remember the world when it was nothing like what it is now.
So I have that comparison radar.
But if you're born into it, this is your normal.
This is the way things are.
And one of the most grotesque things I've seen in this entire world Pandemic hoax was seeing pictures of very small children in playgrounds with chalk circles or squares around them and they're told that they can't come out of them during playtime because they can't interact with other kids.
They are literally programming what is new to us adults.
They're programming from the start as the normal for the young because they're preparing them for this Phenomenal change in human society that's being planned.
And if I had children at school now, and that was the way the school worked, there's no way my children would be going to school.
No way. Because I would watch them be programmed.
And I saw this other picture of kids, little kids.
Sitting on crosses, six foot apart, while their mothers in masks lined up to pick them up after school.
This is extraordinary.
Just go back to January, February, and imagine that this wouldn't be happening now.
It literally is a transformation of human society via transformation of Of the human psyche.
And it's on that level that we need to resist it on the psychological level.
This is why I say I will not concede to masks.
You can put me in jail.
You can do what you freaking like.
I ain't wearing a mask.
Because if I concede to that imposition...
I'm not saying people shouldn't do it if they choose to, but if I concede to that imposition, so what imposition am I going to concede to next?
And then which one? And then which one?
And then which one? This is what's happening.
Let's see what they'll take next, because I've used this analogy many times over the years, but my God, it fits current events.
What they do is they push the gate and if there's no resistance, they walk through it and they walk to the next gate and they push that.
If there's no resistance, they walk through that and they go to the next gate.
And each one of these gates is another extreme change in human society, which has not been resisted.
And if people just refuse to wear masks because they're being imposed, that would be a start
in saying this gate ain't opening, mate.
Because the few can only control the many when the many concede their right to free
thought and free choice to the few.
Absolutely.
David, this has been well.
It's like a dream come true, to be honest.
You don't understand what this is like.
It's absolutely fantastic.
Well, it's been a pleasure, mate. It's been great talking to you.
Will you come back?
Oh, yeah, sure. In a few months?
Oh, cheers. I've had the hands-on healing and I've had the crystal therapy and I can't shift it.
Do you ever come to Asia, David?
I'm fine. I have been to Japan a number of times.
I've been to that part of the world there.
There's a lot of interest in this stuff.
I was a friend of a guy called Dr.
Emoto who became very well known for what he basically did was take canisters of water And he would put a mobile phone on the side.
He would write positive, nice and horrible, hateful things on the side of the canister.
And then he would freeze the canister very, very quickly of the water.
And then he would photograph the water crystals before they melted.
And he became well known because...
The difference in the water crystals between words of love and words of hatred, mobile phone, pure water, polluted water, was un-freaking-believable.
Words of love and appreciation, the crystals were beautiful, perfectly geometrically beautiful.
And then when you had words of hate, it was just a mess.
Why? Because we're giving off vibrations all the time based on our perceptual state.
And that was impacting on the water and changing the nature of the crystals.
And so the more that people can be pulled into states of fear, that was another low vibrational frequency that created a mess rather than beautiful crystals.
The more they can be pulled into fear and hate and anxiety, depression, The more we are affecting each other by the frequencies we're putting out.
And that's the level that much of the answer lies, understanding that.
And so when people are in fear and they're in anxiety and they're in depression, they say things like, oh, I feel so heavy today.
Because they are very low vibrational frequencies that are generated by those emotional and mental states.
And so they vibrate very slowly and your energetic field moves into density.
And you feel, oh, I feel so heavy today.
When you have joy and love and happiness and all those things, oh, I feel so light today.
Because they're very high frequency frequencies.
Something that certainly resonates with me and a lot of people I know as well.
Just dealing with anxiety and things.
I absolutely understand what you're saying.
So, controlling perception doesn't only control your behaviour, it controls the frequencies you're putting out.
And we live in a sea of energy.
On a kind of molecular level, would you say?
Well, yeah, the whole foundation of this reality is waveform information.
It's like Wi-Fi. And we'll get into this another time, but the so-called physical world is an illusion.
It's a holographic illusion.
And in the same way that this computer is taking Wi-Fi information from a radiation field and putting it into...
I'd love to discuss that with you.
We'd really love to get into that with you.
He's putting it into a completely different form on the screen.
So, this world, as we perceive it, as solidity, is our computer screen.
But what we are decoding it from is, I call it cosmic Wi-Fi.
It's exactly the same principle.
And that's what I find very interesting about this whole technological world, is it's mimicking The way we create reality and the way we experience reality.
But we'll get into that next time because that will take...
Sure, sure. There is going to be it next time.
We're going to get kicked out.
We're going to get kicked out. Not only did we have David Icke on the show, but we didn't piss him off.
He wanted to come back. David, thank you so much.
We really appreciate it. We understand that you're a busy man.
When's your book out? It's officially out on...
August the 14th, but it was a pre-order start about two weeks before.
And, you know, it's extraordinary because 85% of the book was written before the lockdowns.
And the lockdowns have given this cult everything or virtually everything that I said they wanted in the first 85% of the book.
The other thing I said...
If you want some pre-reviewed copy, if you want some reviews, you can send to us and we can read and review the book before it comes out as well.
Jamie's the one I talked to there.
But I also talk in the first 85% of the book about the plan for the cult to use mob rule to cause chaos in our people and society.
And it was...
These people are very predictable because if you know where they want to go then predicting the future is It's easy because unless something intervenes to stop what they want to introduce, then by saying this is what they want, you're predicting the future.
This is what Orwell was doing.
This is what Aldous Huxley was doing.
There's two worlds.
There's that world that the cult runs, which has a projected future, and then there's the rest of the world that the rest of us live in, where most people think everything is happening randomly, when actually it's coming from here.
But again, that's another thing for another day.
Stop me, stop me.
It's been so wonderful to have you here.
We're looking forward to having you again, David.
It's been a great pleasure.
See you soon. Lots of love from Bangkok.
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