This Is Why They Want To Silence Me - David Icke Talks To TradCatKnight Podcast
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Story, the headline story is going to be continued censorship on your end.
What's going on with NewsGuard?
I mean, this just gives you even more credibility as to the things you've been saying for decades now and the things I've been echoing in recent times.
It just seems like they don't know when to quit, David.
Well, what's happening is the limitation of the power of this global cult that I've been exposing for 30 years is becoming more and more self-evident.
You know, people with real power compared with the potential power of the target population do not need to censor someone like me.
They control the mainstream media.
They control the vast majority of information that passes through social media and Silicon Valley.
They control governments.
They control the financial system.
They control the major corporations like Amazon.
And so the list goes on and on and on.
And yet...
They are running around with their knickers in a twist over one guy putting out information that is at odds with what they want people to believe.
So that tells you something about where the real power is.
Because truth has a resonance and lies and mendacity have a different resonance, a different frequency.
And so therefore the frequency of truth is far more powerful and they want to keep it from people because I've seen as I've put information out over the last period of this fake pandemic the impact it's had on people when they have seen another explanation for events that Is challenging the official narrative, but makes more sense than the official narrative, which is what truth tends to do.
And so what we're seeing is a reaction, not of power, shut them down, but actually panic, that they're worried about one guy.
So what they have is a series of front organizations.
They have loads of them.
And they are often a man and a dog organization.
And you can see them because these man and a dog organizations seem to have incredible influence and support.
With people in power.
So you can start to recognize them.
And one of them is called Countering or the Centre for Countering Digital Hate.
And my experience, and I'm sure yours is too, when you have something with hate in the title, as in anti-hate, you're looking at a vehicle for the pervasion of hate.
This is what you see all the time.
You see this with organizations like Antifa.
They call themselves anti-hate and they have hate constantly written on their face.
And this is a man and a dog organization, like I say, which has big financial backers, elite financial backers.
That's suddenly taken on trying to delete me completely from the internet.
And the people involved are pathetic.
I mean, they connect into ultra-Zionism.
They big-time connect into the UK Labour Party.
And that's what they're trying to do.
And they've persuaded...
Well, I say persuaded. I'll come to that in a second.
YouTube to delete my entire channel with a million...
Subscribers. Just like that.
They've got Facebook, Zuckerberg, to delete my Facebook page with, you know, the best part of a million subscribers or followers, but that comes after five years of absolutely intense shadow banning so that the numbers, while the interest in my information has got massive and massive and massive, In the last five years, the numbers of Facebook followers have not increased because it's been artificially suppressed.
So that's gone. So that's the...
That's what they're trying to do.
They're trying to stop any challenge to the official story of the virus circulating.
Why? Because the official story of the virus is so insane, so ludicrous, so unable to be substantiated that it's incredibly vulnerable to another explanation, which is why they're desperately running around now trying to put fires out like me.
And what's a classic connection, Eric, is that this global cult that I write about, talk about, created the World Health Organization, the Rockefellers created that, to put under one roof, in one place, control of world health policy.
And today it's run on the cult's behalf by Bill Gates, who is the second biggest funder, second only to the United States government.
And Tedros, the Director General of the World Health Organization, who is a complete crook, is someone who has worked for Gates' organizations.
So what they do is the World Health Organization, the WHO, put out the official narrative.
And then what happens, and we've seen it publicly announced, Facebook and Google and YouTube, owned by Google, they then say we're going to censor any postings, any videos that challenge and expose the World Health Organization narrative.
So they create the narrative and what they're doing now by control of Silicon Valley is to defend the narrative from...
From being exposed.
And this other organization you mentioned, what this digital hate organization tried to do or is trying to do is to get me off every platform.
They've failed so far as we speak to do it with Twitter.
So last night I was contacted By a man who hilariously claimed to be a reporter or journalist with this NewsGuard organization, which is being created by the elite, the neocons in America, actually, that were behind the project The New American Century and all that went with that with 9-11 and the aftermath, War on Terror.
And NewsGuard is there to Demonize and misrepresent anyone this cult and the neocons wants to silence.
So they announced to me last night that they were going to publish a report tomorrow, Thursday, to expose to Twitter All those websites, all those Twitter accounts with big numbers, because that's what frightens them, that we're putting out misinformation about the virus.
And so that's where we are at the moment.
They're desperately trying to delete me from every platform.
Why? Because they're terrified of what I'm saying.
Yeah, and it legitimizes what some people like myself are kind of like middle of the pack.
We obviously don't have as many numbers as you do, and my goodness, I just saw the other day on your Twitter feed, it looks like you had a live stream that had over a million people.
My goodness, that's amazing, David.
But it legitimizes what you're saying, and so all the kind of middle guys who are retorting or recanting what you're saying, we can go out and kind of say those things, and then it gets filtered down more and more, and then ultimately it comes back to you, if that makes sense.
That's huge that you're sort of A scapegoat, if you will.
We know that you'll persist and carry on.
We know you've got Iconic going.
You've got all different kinds of rabbit holes that you can utilize in order to get your information out.
But I wanted to get you to talk about these phony baloney numbers that we're dealing with.
CDC, WHO. Sometimes I think, David, they just wake up and they just randomly, arbitrarily pick a number and say, yep, that's how many died in this state or whatnot.
It's getting ridiculous. We had Fauci come out saying we need over another 100,000 body bags for this summer.
There was another article on Drudge saying if we didn't...
Of all the states reopened here in the United States, we'd have, you know, 400,000 deaths or something like that.
Talk to us about the numbers.
Obviously, death certificate scam, you posted on your Twitter feed that I She retweeted doctors coming out and saying they're just coming out killing people.
I had Dr. Kendra Becker on the program, who was a part of G. Edward Griffin's Red Pill Expo, come out and say the people are dying and the people are using the ventilators.
There's one hell of a story here.
And you know, what they're really trying to shut me up about, it's being given the cover that I'm connecting the virus, as he's claimed, to To 5G. And there are ways that you can connect that.
At least in theory, you are, or not in theory, but in research, there is a justification for going that direction and exploring it, for reasons I'll come to in a second, in one specific area currently, but possibly other areas to come in terms of 5G. But that's not been the thrust Of what I've been saying.
And it's not the real reason they want to shut me up.
The real reason they want to shut me up is because I'm saying there is no virus.
And I do, you know, I saw the stories about Wuhan bio labs, this level four bio lab in Wuhan, which deals with some horrendous Agents of death, pathogens, etc.
And I looked at it, and I heard people say, oh yeah, it came out there.
And, okay, I'm open to that.
Let me have a look. But what I do when I research things is, ironically, they call you a conspiracy theorist, is I want to see the evidence that the, quote, theory has substance.
So if a bioweapon of some kind was released from the Wuhan Biolab, then okay.
But you're talking about a level 4 biolab, which is the highest level of containment.
So the stuff that they're dealing with there is absolutely horrific.
So if they release a, quote, virus, then show me the dead people.
Show me the dead people. You know, I see people go on.
I saw an interview with someone today who they say it's a bioweapon.
And then what they do is they go on about the fact that they're fixing the numbers and fixing the death certificates, right?
Which is right. It's what's happened.
We'll get into that. So why do they have to fix death certificates and fix the figures if they have a genuine virus or agent of disease?
So I looked at this.
It made no sense to me.
And I got deeper into it and deeper into it and deeper into it.
And I started seeing videos with various people.
Doctors, et cetera, who are looking at this from a real what's going on point of view instead of, you know, from a bias point of view of this is what I think is going on and I'm going to make the facts fit.
And I put it all together and it's clear there is no freaking virus.
And this is the sequence.
Take this through a sequence that I put together.
When this disease apparently started in Wuhan, and this is coming from medical sources who've looked at this, people like Dr.
Andrew Kaufman, who's done some fantastic forensic work on this.
The authorities took lung fluid from literally a handful of the first people that fell ill.
And they took out of that a genetic material, an RNA genetic material.
They did not isolate a virus.
They did not find a virus.
They only took this genetic material out of the lung.
But they decided on no evidence that it was a virus.
And I suggest that this was done on purpose because this cult that I'm exposing all these years, it has no borders.
It is controlling China, which is its blueprint for the world, which is why the West has become so much more like China since this fake pandemic was played out.
The Chinese wing of the cult is just like a subsidiary in a transnational corporation.
And other subsidiaries are the American government and deep state, the British government and deep state, and so on.
And they work to impose in their area of influence, their country, the centrally dictated agenda.
So in each country, these subsidiary networks of this cult, We'll have the job of controlling that country's politics and government.
The major corporations owning the media.
And one of the, if you like, the pyramids of control in each country that they absolutely focus on is control of the health system through big pharma, scalpel and drug medicine.
And so in each country, these medical systems are controlled by this cult.
And it takes very few people, as long as they're in key positions, to do that.
So they control the departments of health.
They control the medical associations.
So these crucial bodies.
And so people like Fauci and Birx in your country, and the equivalent in Britain and other countries, That are the unelected advisors and actually directors of policy in relation to this pandemic are all, in fact, owned by this hierarchy.
And one of the key, well, the key connections between them all on behalf of the cult is Bill Gates.
So when you look at the background to Fauci and you look to the background of Birx, Bill Gates, big funding connections to Bill Gates.
You come to London and you find a guy called Chris Whitty, who's the chief medical officer here.
He's been driving this policy.
And he's got massive financial connections to Bill Gates.
The person who...
Produced the computer models which are absolutely a cinch to manipulate.
A guy called Professor Neil Ferguson at Imperial College in London.
The man who forced the British lockdown by telling the Prime Minister that up to half a million British people could die from this virus.
And the same in America by saying that up to two million Americans could die from this virus.
And so on. They did it in other countries too.
He has phenomenal, like Imperial College in general, connections financially to Bill Gates.
And this is what is one of the cements, if you like, that are holding all this together.
So this is how it works.
You've got this web with these subsidiaries in each country whose job is to impose in that country the will of the centrally dictated agenda.
So we go back to China.
You've got that in China.
China is, as I've been saying in the books for decades, is the blueprint that they want for the world.
And so you have in the West, well, until now, The idea they have to pay lip service in some way to freedom and democracy.
So they've not been able to move as fast, well, until now, in terms of this Chinese model as China has.
Because China, because it's an absolute fascist dictatorship, has been able to incubate The global system they want within China.
I've been saying for years and years, if you want to see what they plan for the West, look at China today.
In China, this all started in Wuhan.
We should not forget, because it's crucial, that Wuhan is a phenomenally notorious place for toxic air.
And thus they have a large, large amount of respiratory and lung disease in Wuhan.
So what happened is that they decided that they were dealing with a virus.
And they started testing or diagnosing at first only on symptoms.
So they said the symptoms of this virus are flu-like.
Now, if you want flu-like symptoms in Wuhan, well...
Where do you want to start because of the situation with the lungs of people that live there?
And pneumonia and all that stuff.
So they started diagnosing flu-like symptoms, which were from an endless number of other causes, as this COVID-19.
And then they introduced a test called the PCR test, which is what's being used to test people all over the world now.
And this test...
And doctors have come out and said this, Eric.
This test is not testing for COVID-19.
They've never isolated this alleged virus and so they can't test for it.
How can you? They're testing...
For this genetic material they found in the lungs of these early people in China.
And the contents of this genetic material can be found in vast numbers of people.
So it's not surprising that this test is testing positive in a lot of people.
But it's not for COVID-19.
It's for this genetic material.
And so the numbers go up.
And you saw all the...
The chaos, apparent chaos and hysteria where the Chinese were building hospitals in days.
Do you remember that? Oh, it's so bad.
Hospitals in days. And then suddenly the hospitals were not used.
They built them.
Oh, they're terrible. Oh, it's going to be terrible.
The hospitals were closed.
And what happened suddenly is the Chinese numbers dropped.
Dramatically. And so by the time this thing started moving to the West, China was recovering.
But this is the key.
This is the key to all of it.
China had to be the blueprint for how you deal with this virus, alleged virus.
The draconian lockdowns that you saw in China that seemed to...
Make the numbers drop.
That had to be locked in as this is the way you deal with this virus because they wanted to take that lockdown into the West to destroy the independent livelihoods of a massive number of people so that they become dependent on the state thus under control of the state and that's what happened.
So once you had that Draconian response in China where people were starving behind being locked in their own homes.
Suddenly, the World Health Organization, Tedros, who's owned by Gates, came out and said, China, that's the way we must deal with this virus as it comes to the West.
Gates said that.
Who else said it? Professor Neil Ferguson, who would soon produce the computer models to terrify Johnson and people like Trump into lockdown.
And so it comes to the West as the Chinese problem goes down.
And they started to diagnose this virus, just like the Chinese, on symptoms.
So suddenly, what were flu-like symptoms with a pneumonia, with a lot of different causes, suddenly became COVID-19, COVID-19, COVID-19, purely on symptoms.
And then they introduced, and this is being driven by these medical hierarchies in each country, and then they introduced the test, the PCR test, which is testing for a genetic material that many, many people have in their bodies and not for COVID-19, and lots of people started to test positive.
And that's when they started to Dictate to doctors.
Like I say, very few people at the top of the pyramid are needed to dictate to the whole pyramid of the medical system.
That if someone tested positive for COVID-19, still going on now, then COVID-19 had to go on the death certificate.
In Scotland, for instance, Northern Ireland as well over here, it's the rule now that if someone tests positive for COVID-19, Genetic material, not COVID-19, and they die within 28 days, then COVID-19 has to go on the death certificate.
And you're starting to see, you know, even medical officers, like I saw one recently from Illinois, who was openly saying that if someone tests positive for COVID-19, then even though they've not died from it, It goes on the death certificate.
They're really openly saying this now.
The doctors in greater numbers are saying it as well.
And so this is how the death numbers are being created by re-diagnosing people with other conditions with COVID-19.
This is why you had that big...
Center of apparently this virus in Italy, northern Italy.
Northern Italy is, again, like Wuhan, notorious for its toxic air.
And thus they have large numbers of people with respiratory, lung and pneumonia problems.
And so you have infinite potential for just re-diagnosing that COVID-19.
And interestingly, the official Italian government has said, or the agencies of government, that 99% of people who died from COVID-19 in Italy uh had um one two three four or more other conditions what they call morbidities that were threatening their life um and so they were just re-diagnosing those people COVID-19 and suddenly you had this all these people are dying from COVID-19 in Italy and and this has gone on and gone on it's still going on and just to finish the point Six weeks before this whole thing started in Wuhan, Bill Gates and his foundation and the World Economic Forum, this 1% operation that meets at Davos in Switzerland every year, They did a simulation called Event 201 of a coronavirus pandemic and everything that they basically talked about,
you can see it on the internet, is how it's played out, not least in censorship of people challenging the World Health Organization narrative.
But where I'm going with this is a key player in that simulation was the Johns Hopkins University medical operation.
And who is counting the figures globally of cases and deaths that the media worldwide are using as their Unquestioned truth about cases and deaths, the Johns Hopkins University Medical Organization.
So everywhere you look, Eric, you see a dot connected into this web, not least into Gates.
And they have managed to create the illusion of a virus without actually having one.
And why would they do that?
Because that gives them total control.
You release a virus, say a bioweapon or something, you've lost control of it immediately.
You know, the number of people at the core of this cult globally that are in full knowledge doing what they're doing is tiny.
But they play out their agenda through a very large number of people who are compartmentalized from knowledge of what's really going on but are essential To that agenda playing out.
They don't want to take them out.
And if you release them by a weapon, You can do that because you've lost control of it.
But if you're doing it by manipulating the case figures through the fake test and the death figures through manipulation of death certificates, you have complete control of it.
You can tell, as we saw in China, you can dictate when the numbers go up, when they level out, when a second wave comes in, which is what they're planning.
It gives you total control.
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I want to jump back on 5G, but I think we talked about this.
We scratched the surface last time in terms of creating this new society of snitches and snoops.
All kinds of wonderful articles out here in the USA. I'm sure it's similar out there in Europe.
But now we've got, we know the New World Order likes to create division, the whole divide and conquer routine.
We've got individuals. It's sort of like high school, David.
We've got, on the left hand side, we've got people wearing masks.
On the right-hand side, we got people not wearing masks, like dodgeball almost, or like little clicks forming in high school.
Now, the people with the masks are looking at the people with no masks like, you're crazy, you're not following all the propaganda.
That's another way where they're creating sort of some paranoia.
Maybe we get your comments on that.
To the point of 5G, I saw you retweeted some information from Dr.
Tenpenny. She's a friend of mine.
She's actually out here in Ohio.
We've had wonderful conversations over the years, and I've been wondering for years just how bad this was going to get.
We've got to talk about mass vaccinations.
When are they going to pull the strings on this?
I've had Ole Damgard a month or so ago think it's going to happen quite soon.
Will it happen with the second wave?
I want to get your thoughts on the mass vaccination program.
When do they start rolling it out? I know here in The state, Chicago, is already on record like, hey, everyone here in the area is going to get one, period, without question.
So this obviously is another rabbit hole we want to jump down, David.
Yeah, well, first of all, I mean, just your last comment there.
What we need to face and get out of denial is that we are looking in the eyes of fascism.
That's what we're looking at. What's happened is that, as I've been writing about all these decades, is that this fascist cult has been running the world from the shadows.
And now it's stepped into the room and it's running it in front of your face.
So we're dealing with fascism and we need to face that.
We're looking at a global version of Nazi Germany.
In terms of the masks, just very quickly, Dr.
Andrew Kaufman was pointing out in an interview recently that I watched that the pores in these masks are far, far bigger than viral particles.
And his analogy was wearing a mask is like to stop viral particles.
Being exchanged is like trying to stop a horde of mosquitoes with a chainring fence.
It's insane.
I mean, it's ridiculous. But you can get people to believe anything when they've given up the right to think for themselves.
There's two things, Eric, that this is all about.
There are many offshoots of this, but these are the two key ones.
One is to destroy the independent livelihood of the population because once you do that, you control them by dependency.
And this is what's happened, of course, very clearly.
We had a story this week in Britain that half the adult population is now being paid by the state because they have no other form of income.
And this is what I've been pointing out for years, was the plan, what I call the Hunger Games Society, where you have the tiny few at the top dictating to a completely dependent rest of the population through Not having an income that is not dependent on the state and then between the two having this police military state which is very clearly emerged during these lockdowns to impose the will of the 1% the few on the rest of the population and to stop the population rebelling against the few and that structure Which is meant to be controlled by AI and become a technocracy where we don't have elected politicians.
We just have technocrats and scientists and bureaucrats.
Who's running the pandemic reaction?
It ain't politicians. It's technocrats.
What is Bill Gates, Eric?
He's a technocrat.
Look at it. That's one major area.
And the other one you rightly bring up is the vaccine.
And that's a problem-reaction solution, or actually, in this case, a no-problem-reaction solution, to vaccinate the entire population.
So why do they want to do that?
Well, because they'll put stuff in there that will carry other diseases that they can use for further lockdowns, no doubt.
But the key to it is an opportunity to inject into the entire world population nanotechnology, what they call nanobots and various other names, which are tiny nanobots.
Nanotechnology, not in terms of just a microchip, but something that can replicate and change the nature of the human body, which, again, I've been here for years, is exactly what they want to do.
It's what the whole transgender fusion of gender is all about.
If we really look at it in the panorama as opposed to the, you know...
The individual dots.
So these nanobots are designed to be injected in this vaccine.
And the other thing about this vaccine is something I've been looking at for a while.
Is that the next level of vaccines, which they've been talking about, and they'll include this one, is DNA vaccines, where they actually become part of the DNA and they can mutate DNA, which fits perfectly in with these nanobots that can self-replicate and change the nature of the body.
Because you cannot...
Understand what is happening in terms of this pandemic without understanding the agenda for the smart grid.
Which brings us to 5G, the smart grid where everything is connected to the Internet, the so-called Internet of Things.
And what they want is every human body and human brain also connected to this smart grid and connected to the Internet.
And so AI becomes the human mind.
So they have to make this connection.
And it's...
It's not a coincidence that while enormous numbers of people have been told they can't go about their business because their business is not essential, what has been considered essential all over the world is the rapid rolling out of 5G during these lockdowns when people can't protest and people can't see what's going on.
And this smart grid needs at least 5G. They're talking about 6G and 7G as well.
A level of communicative power and frequency to make this smart grid work.
So you have the rolling out of these Endless masks banging out 5G. And you've got the psychopath, Elon Musk, who's constantly, as we speak, putting up low orbit satellites to beam 5G at the Earth.
And they're creating this grid.
But what they need to do is connect us, our biological level, To this grid.
And that's what these nanobots in the vaccine are all about.
And you say, oh, it's a vaccine.
Well, we're not going to put many in, but they self-replicate.
Once they get in there, they just replicate and replicate and replicate.
And I've been talking about this for a while, and then I saw...
An interview with a lady called Celeste Solem.
I'm sure you've come across her.
Yeah, I had her on the show recently.
And she was talking about the same thing, what she called DARPA gel, with these self-replicating nanotechnologies in them.
And this is what, apart from changing the body, is what's part of the process of linking us to this smart grid and to AI. Yeah.
And you had, during the lockdown, this permission given by the Federal Communications Commission, the FCC, which is completely owned by the cult, which is given permission for 5G without any testing, because if you tested it, you wouldn't be allowed.
And they've given Musk permission for a million ground-based antenna to interact with this whole satellite system that he's got.
And that is the equivalent of what these nanobots are meant to do for humans.
So the...
Crucial two things are destroying the livelihoods of people so that they are dependent.
And the other thing is to get these nanobots into people on a global scale.
So this is why Gates has said...
Gates is a 100% gopher for the cult.
And he...
You cannot describe the level of psychopath that Bill Gates is.
Because he knows that imposing this lockdown is going to cause death and destruction.
Vast numbers of people are going to die because of the lockdown.
It's already becoming clear. And destroy their lives and destroy their children's lives just to get this nanotechnology vaccine, DNA vaccine, into people.
That's the level of psychopath that this man is.
And he needs to be in jail for the rest of his life.
And indeed he needs to reincarnate at least a hundred times to complete the sentence.
This man is pure, undiluted evil.
And so this is what it's about.
These are the two things. And what Gates is saying is you can't go back to normalcy.
Who are you, Gates?
You software peddler.
Who are you? Well, who is he?
He's a representative of the cult.
That's where his power comes from.
And he's saying you can't go back to normalcy and the lockdowns fully be...
Removed until we vaccinate the entire human race.
So they're not even hiding it anymore.
It's very easy to see what the game is, you know?
Yeah, great points there by David Icke.
Another point I'll point out with 5G. Again, I bring out some of these top 5G activists.
I'm sure you're aware of them. John Kitson over there in England also.
Mark Steele I bring out to the program quite regularly.
I've had other experts tell me that when you bring 5G up to a certain megahertz level, that will actually cause you to have a shortness of breath as well.
I had Kent Lewis talk about that on my program last month.
Now, you mentioned a word about...
15, 20 minutes ago, they're panicking.
You see people like you out in the limelight, they obviously have to chop you down and test your name and get you to make you look like quack or whatnot, just like I have for years.
Panic, that's the key word here.
Do you get a sense that they are panicking and rushing the script, if you will?
You and I both weren't surprised by the pandemic card being played.
I was slightly surprised that it's here in 2020.
I was thinking more into 2022.
2023 kind of area.
It seems like maybe they're pushing the envelope a little bit.
What do you think? Do you sense like they think more people are waking up?
Well, because I've been doing this for 30 years, I've kind of been able to be a sort of barometer of this.
And I remember what it was like 30 years ago.
What? Nobody wanted to know.
Virtually nobody. You know, I was going around America talking to eight people.
And Now, as the years have passed, particularly since 9-11 and other things that have happened, people have started to look at the world anew.
And one of the silver linings in this pandemic cloud is that it's so in our face now that a very, very, very large number of new people, in my experience, are now starting to say, well, hold on, maybe it's not so crazy what was being said, you know?
So there's positive things in it as well.
And so I think there absolutely is a panic because they can't let this awakening get to the point where it becomes critical mass.
So I think they have gone early on this.
And of course, what they've done is they've come out of the shadows and they've walked into the room.
Where we can see them, basically see them more clearly than ever before in terms of the general public.
And so that's a very dangerous time for them.
And that's why they're running around trying to put the fires out in terms of censorship, because they know they're incredibly vulnerable.
They're incredibly vulnerable in relation to this virus, because you don't have to ask many questions before the whole official narrative is all over the floor in bits.
And they know that.
They've taken a big chance here.
And they're using this and manipulating and triggering this survival mechanism that people have.
In situations where they fear their survival.
And once you trigger that survival mechanism, it will do anything it thinks is necessary to survive.
And if that includes accepting a draconian fascist state, because I'll have more chances surviving if I accept that, then the survival mechanism will do that.
This is where you've got people going around wearing masks that are absolutely useless because they think it's aiding their chances of survival.
So it is a dangerous time and we...
We need to push on from here and not sort of back off because there's a lot of people listening now that weren't listening before.
I mean, I know that. The number of people looking at my work, it's one of the reasons they panicked and tried to delete me from everything.
It's because the numbers looking at my work were absolutely exploding.
And so this is a very dangerous time for them.
And I'm I'm not as pessimistic as I should be given current events.
I'm actually quite optimistic about the fact that we can kick on from here because there are more and more people that are hearing.
And, you know, you look at the mainstream of society and you see the people that dominate the microphones and dominate the cameras.
And that can give the impression that there's a certain...
Belief system and perception among the population.
But you talk to people in the street and the supermarket aisles and you find that actually there's an enormous and gathering number of people that don't see the world like that at all.
They see the world very differently.
And those are the people we need to mobilize to...
To unravel this, at the moment, despite what we seem to be looking at, unravel this very vulnerable agenda that they're seeking to impose upon us.
And what I found very encouraging, because I've focused as much as my stuff as I can on Bill Gates, because if you expose Bill Gates for what he is, you're exposing the vaccine by definition.
The number of people now who look at Gates and see him as a very sinister character.
So, you know, that's something that has been very encouraging.
Yeah, now obviously we're dealing with one world economic, digital economy here.
We should be shifting here pretty soon.
One world religion side of things now.
We were talking one world everything.
What's the sense that you get that perhaps there's sort of a One world totalitarian leader that will kind of head it all, right?
We're talking Agenda 2030.
They put that on the paper.
Now, you obviously know from a Christian conservative standpoint what a lot of people, what rabbit hole we're going to go down with, you know, the Antichrist or whatnot, kind of running the kind of show.
And again, I have been talking about this thing for 10 years ago.
I said openly, the Antichrist, I said this probably about 10 years ago, and a lot of Catholics and Christians laughed at me.
Now it's not so funny with Bill Gates' tattoo identification, Six, six, six, all the things that you've been talking about.
So a lot of people, I mean, it's not just Christians, but people are like, oh, they're starting to get a little eerie.
Like, maybe this guy's kind of out there.
I mean, how fast can they put this thing together, given the awakening, which I agree with you.
I think a lot of people are waking up at this point.
Yeah, I think it's important, by the way, given the subject you just raised, that people put down their fault lines of belief.
I mean, they can believe what they like.
I'm not saying put your belief down.
But put down the divisions that your beliefs create with other people.
You know, I've seen people that have said about me in the last few weeks, well, he's not a Christian and he's new age.
And therefore, you shouldn't listen to it.
Even though, you know, what I've been saying has proved to be correct.
Now, A, I'm not new age.
It's the last thing I bloody am.
And secondly, what does it matter if I'm a Christian and you're a Christian?
It doesn't matter.
And what I've found over the years researching this, you know, Is that so many apparent isolated belief systems like Christianity and other religions and non-religions and ancient cultures.
When you break down, you break it down and break it down and break it down.
There are enormous areas of common theme and of connection between them.
You know, if you just put down all the, you know, the solidified belief system, you know, this says this here and this says that there, put it down and look at the totality and the thrust of what people are saying and you find the same themes in Christianity as in Islam, as in other religions and in non-religions like ancient cultures, their version of religion.
You find the same themes.
You find the theme that there is a hidden force manipulating human society.
You find it in all of them.
And so if we could just...
Put down these fierce lines of division.
I believe this, you believe that, so I can't believe you.
And just chill out and realize that we have far more in common than we don't.
I mean, I'm not a Christian, okay.
But I quote the Bible quite a lot over the years because there's stuff in it that is actually describing what's going on.
And in other religions, there's stuff that's describing what's going on.
And so we need to just put these fierce kind of immovable belief systems down.
I mean, keep them for yourself, but don't let them divide us, which is what it's supposed to do.
Because in the end, you know, you mentioned it already, they want a one-world religion.
This is why Christianity is being targeted.
They want rid of it.
This is why all these religions are going to be targeted one by one, because the New World religion is basically what you might call the woke mentality.
It's like earth worship and all that stuff.
Yeah, it's coming through the Vatican largely.
That's kind of like my area of expertise, what they've been doing for years.
As a matter of fact, France just came out recently on Earth Day.
Talking about how we're sinning against Mother Earth.
And again, I actually agree with you, David, along the lines that when this guy does show up, the Antichrist, he's not just going to be killing Christians.
I have to tell that to other Catholics.
He's going to kill anyone. He's going to go after anyone who doesn't take his mark.
Exactly. You notice the Pope came out, because the Pope is a big cult position.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's a goober.
Was it Pope John Paul I when he came in in 1978, lasted 33 days?
Because he seemed to be a genuine bloke that wanted to take the Freemasonic control of the Vatican on, right?
So he had to go. But it's basically, it's a cult position.
And the Pope's just come out the last, what, week or so, calling for a guaranteed income, which is exactly what...
UBI, yeah. Yeah, I'm right there with you.
Yeah, he's definitely a staged puppet, just like Trump.
You and I agree there, too. Trump's also another puppet.
Along the lines of state dependency, I'm not sure if you caught this news, but there's legislation here in the United States that they want to roll out in about a month or so where they're going to guarantee $2,000 to every American for the next six months.
And you see a lot of conservatives now hooting and hollering, oh, this is a good thing.
Again, you and I know they're going to pull the rug out beneath the feet of us and get into this whole microchipping, get everyone used to getting that money.
Then, when they're ready, pull that carpet out beneath our feet, and we know where we go from there.
What they do is very clearly, you get them dependent on it, oh, this is good, this is, and then you pull it.
Honestly, if people can't see it, but unfortunately, large numbers of people can't, But that's what it is.
And when they pull it, you've got the Hunger Games Society.
And of course, they can't go on in the current structure of the economic system Paying out that kind of money to people without generating it somehow.
Because that's just got to collapse.
It has to. And so it's obviously...
It's unsustainable.
And so, yeah, the whole thing's a mind game, a psychology game.
Get people out of work, get them used to not working, and then pull it.
That's where it is.
Yeah, and also one of the benefits to that from their perspective in terms of the lockdown is to get people to get more TV time in.
Now, I know it's opportunistic.
Anyone can use their time, whether it's for prayer, whatever you want to do, reading books.
Obviously, find people like you and I to kind of unmask this whole thing.
But a lot more people, as you know, kind of tend to just turn on the boob tube and watch CNN or Fox.
So they're just getting regurgitated with all this poison into their head.
And that's when they go out and they wear the mask.
And, oh, how dare you out here without a mask or whatnot?
I don't know. People close to me even say that to me.
And I'm like, man, you watch way too much mainstream media TV. But David, in conclusion, we've only got a few minutes left.
We always like to give our guests some parting words and then also shameless self-promotion times.
We got to get into all that, your social media, Iconic, your website, David Icke, all that good stuff.
And I appreciate you taking time out today, David.
No problem. I just want to, you mentioned it earlier, it's something that I've been talking about in the last few weeks.
It's this 60 gigahertz 5G frequency that interacts with oxygen and change the nature of oxygen molecules.
So it makes it far more difficult for people to take in the volume of oxygen that they did before.
And, you know, we We saw the video of the doctor from the intensive care unit in New York who was talking about these situations in a few people, where it certainly wasn't a COVID-19 infectious disease, he said, but something was going on he'd never seen before, which was Lungs that look like, in his words, had been in a plane at 30,000 feet when the cabin depressurized or had been put on top of Everest with no acclimatization and,
by definition, no oxygen.
And then you have this...
This 5G frequency at 60 gigahertz, which stops people absorbing oxygen in the way that they would.
And in the last few days in Britain, there have been a number of articles in mainstream newspapers, which have talked about, they're calling it happy hypoxia.
Which is what they're saying is this strange effect of COVID-19.
It's not COVID-19, but it is an effect in a few people of exactly what that doctor described.
And this is why I said earlier, Eric, that the 5G situation and impact, most of that is in the future.
Because the more they play it out, the more they introduce these 60 gigahertz Wi-Fi fields, the more There is potential for impacting upon human health in the way we've described, which they can then call what?
They can say, oh, it's a new mutation of the virus.
It's now having a much bigger effect.
And the other thing is that...
We need to understand, and we will work it out, I'm sure somebody may have done already, how they can target specific individuals to have this particular reaction.
The other thing about 5G is that, like everything, the more people use 5G devices, The more the 5G frequency, 60 gigahertz, et cetera, will be dominating and deluging our energetic environment because of all the beam connections that are created, the more devices you have.
So put all that together, and that's why I say the biggest impact of 5G is in the future.
And if anyone thinks that's all fantastic about, oh, no, it's making up about oxygen, The telecommunications industry is actually focused on that.
It says 60 gigahertz is a great frequency for us because, for some reason, as it interacts with oxygen as it does, it means that lots of devices in the same area can be used without interfering with each other.
So that's... Why some parts of the telecommunications industry are saying that's why we want that.
But from a cult point of view, the health effect is what they really want.
In terms of what's going on, I think it's important.
It's more important than ever before, really, to point out that people can still see the stuff that I put out.
At the moment, we have...
As I speak, we have Twitter.
But how long that won't last, because they're really focusing on that to delete me from that, we will see.
But there's davidike.com, where all my stuff is always there every day, news stories from the angle of what's going on as opposed to what seems to be going on.
Iconic.com is a massive now media platform.
It's got 700 plus videos, series, documentaries, et cetera.
And what happened there, Eric, is after an interview of mine was just before they got rid of me completely from YouTube, that YouTube took down.
It was then running, it was an interview in which I talked about the virus not existing.
And then YouTube pulled it.
And then it went on to Vimeo.
And Vimeo pulled it.
And then Facebook pulled it after it had a million views.
And what Vimeo then did, this really shows you how desperate they are.
What Vimeo did, because what we were doing with Iconic was building our own player so we were not dependent on these people.
And we've done it now. But at that time it was on Vimeo, just literally two or three weeks ago.
Vimeo, without any warning, deleted more than 700 videos.
Just like that. And my son Jamie, bless him, and the team spent night and day, literally night and day, the alarm going off every 30 minutes through the night, putting the videos back on our player.
And they're all back now. It just shows you how desperate they are.
People can take a seven-day trial on Iconic and see what they think of it.
And the vast majority of people that do that sign up because what Jamie's created is fantastic.
And new series and programs are being added all the time.
I do an hour and a half every Friday on the news of the week and what it really means.
And so those two things, davidike.com and...
And Iconic is where you can see my stuff.
And also on Iconic are all the major public presentations that I've done basically since I started.
And one other thing, BitChute.
We all know BitChute. God bless BitChute.
All my videos are on there.
And we've been putting them on there for a long time now, knowing that this YouTube thing was coming.
And the guys at BitChute do a fantastic job.
And, you know, it really is God bless them because they are so essential to what we're doing now.
Yeah. Yeah, I've got something to shoot myself.
And my interview that I did with Charlie Robinson, I forget the name of his podcast, which runs on Iconic, Charlie told me not too long ago it should probably be up over the next month or two.
So I did an interview for David Icke's Iconic, which you'll probably see over the next month or two over there.
So good stuff, as always, from David.
We look forward to getting you back on next month, folks.
Thank you all for tuning in to this collaborative effort between David Icke and Trad Cat Knight and I hope you all have a very wonderful and blessed day.